Strange Town

This is Colby Cave. I tracked him during his draft year (2014) and had Cave ranked No. 81 on my top 100 list that summer. Now my list is not an expert draft 100, but it does value things like 5-on-5 offense and at that time some of the secondary stats were finding their way (estimated points-per-60, etc). Cave has been working hard since 2014 summer, and appears to be winning the NHL job assigned to Kyle Brodziak. Who knows what tomorrow brings, but Colby Cave is making the case and finding success.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. Outstanding offer is here.

  • New Lowetide: The career destination for Oilers phenom Jesse Puljujarvi remains unknown.
  • New Jonathan Willis: Learning from a flawed argument I made about Leon Draisaitl in 2016.
  • Black Dog Pat: How the Oilers can emerge from the Bob Pulford-like era they’re stuck in.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers given harsh lesson by Leafs as playoff hopes on life support.
  • Lowetide: The Oilers’ deadline decisions inform what may come in spring and summer
  • Jonathan Willis: From Mikko Koskinen to Bakersfield, the next two months will reveal a lot about the Oilers
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: After bringing in Sam Gagner and shipping out Cam Talbot, Oilers stand pat on deadline day.
  • Jonathan Willis: Jesse Puljujarvi needs a fresh start, but there’s no reason it can’t be in Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the OHL.
  • Lowetide: Are the 2018-19 Bakersfield Condors the best Edmonton Oilers affiliate ever?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘One of the best hockey games ever’: An oral history of the 2014 women’s Olympic gold-medal game.
  • Lowetide: How can the Oilers successfully sell the new regime to a fan base that is openly angry?
  • Jonathan Willis: Edmonton’s trade for Sam Gagner is a gamble well worth making.
  • Jonathan Willis: Inside the success of the Bakersfield Condors, and what it means for Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Oilers sure have a lot of problems, but there is a simple solution.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Keith Gretzky on the Oilers trade deadline plan, Andrej Sekera’s return and Jesse Puljujarvi’s season
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ potential roster upheaval might set a record for summer activity
  • Lowetide: It’s time for Oilers owner Daryl Katz to stand and deliver a winning organization.
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL free agency period
  • Lowetide: Edmonton’s 2019 entry draft plans may change with new GM but needs are clear
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects, Winter 2018

OILERS AFTER 64

  • Oilers in 2015: 23-34-7, 53 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2016: 34-22-8, 76 points; goal differential +12
  • Oilers in 2017: 27-33-4, 58 points; goal differential -37
  • Oilers in 2018: 27-30-7, 61 points; goal differential -26

This year’s team is basically a sliver more successful than the one a year ago. It makes no real difference, but the 2017-18 team finished 9-7-2. Can this year’s team manage to duplicate that finish? If they do, the 2018-19 club will complete the schedule 36-37-9, 81 points.

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 3-10-1, seven points; goal differential -21
  • Oilers in February 2017: 6-6-0, 12 points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2018: 5-7-1, 11 points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in February 2019: 4-6-4, 12 points; goal differential -13

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: Philadelphia, Montreal (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-2)
  • At home to: Chicago (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Minnesota (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: San Jose (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Pittsburgh, Carolina, NY Islanders (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-3-0)
  • At home to: Arizona, NY Islanders, Anaheim (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 2-0-1)
  • On the road to: Nashville, Toronto, Ottawa (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 1-1-1)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 4-6-4, 12 points in 14 games

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Sekera-Benning went 17-14 in 12:28, 5-7 shots, 2-0 goals and 5-5 HDSC. The best part of the HDSC totals comes in the knowledge 97 was responsible for just one of them. Strong pairing on the evening.
  • Nurse-Russell were 13-24 in 17:25, 10-10 shots, 0-1 goals and 2-3 HDSC. It was another night of defending because both men have abandoned the idea of tape to tape, and Russell’s performance on the Borowiecki goal was farce.
  • Klefbom-Larsson went 6-24 in 16:51, 4-10 shots, 0-1 goals and 1-8 HDSC. The pairing has struggled of late and that continued, it’s Larsson who is having the tough time. One wonders about injury but they’ll need to be better.
  • Mikko Koskinen stopped 35 of 37, .946.
  • NaturalStatTrick and NHL.com.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Nuge-McDavid-Kassian were 6-11 in 8:43, 5-1 shots, no goals and 2-1 HDSC. I thought Kassian looked out of time with the other two.
  • Draisaitl-McDavid-Kassian went 6-10 in 7:52, 3-4 shots, 0-1 goals and 0-4 HDSC. Not strong. Kassian is the problem and I like Kassian.
  • Malone-Gagner-Rattie were 6-12 in 5:51, 4-7 shots, no goals and 1-3 HDSC.
  • Lucic-Cave-Currie went 5-3 in 5:42, 3-1 shots, 1-0 goals and 2-0 HDSC. At this point I can’t see a reason to break up the trio.
  • Rieder-Draisaitl-Chiasson were 1-7 in 4:16, 0-4 shots, no goals and 0-2 HDSC.

Ryan McLeod and Filip Berglund are the two main names, with the college kids coming due when their respective seasons end. John Marino has emerged as a bonafide NHL prospect, and that may mean he is ready to come out (after his junior season this year). If he won’t sign, there’s a chance we see his rights traded. It would be similar to what happened with Cooper Marody one year ago. Other college players who might be signed include Hayden Hawkey, Vincent Desharnais and Joey Dudek.

The Lightning are lapping the field in amateur procurement and this is another reason. Jimmy Huntington has 20 goals at 5-on-5 this season, .7 primary points per game at 5-on-5. He’s a good prospect Tampa Bay grabbed for only money and a spot on the 50-man list. He has far more value than someone like Colin Larkin as a bet (no offense to Colin Larkin) for future NHL employment.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun morning begins at 10 on TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, BigMouthSports. Senators fire their coach, Leafs-Oilers, Jesse Puljujarvi’s season ending injury and Johnny Manziel getting punted from the CFL.
  • Matt Iwanyk, TSN1260. Oilers GM search, NFL combine.
  • Tom Reed, The Athletic Columbus. We’ll chat about the Blue Jackets after the deadline acquisitions.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Paulie says:

    Beating OTT reminds me of that Spinal Tap scene where the band finds little comfort in having a dressing room bigger than that of the puppets.

  2. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – Koski is an interesting test for the Oil fans. Against the Leafs the team was brutal, he let in a wicked good shot goal that he should have had, and the next day everything was so incredibly negative about him, the signing, what the F was Chia thinking, his glove is weak, etc

    – After a good game, he does not get 10% of the praise amplification he gets when he loses

    – Next year the team is likely going to be better than this year. While Koski has been better than Talbot, he’s not Hasek. Like most decent goalies, he will play better when the team has 6 bona-fide D, and will have some very bad starts.

    – The risk is he is thrown to the wolves though when he has some bad games, everyone will be all over him, and he will get punted from the town. He’s shown he’s fine, and the contract is what it is

    – He’s slightly better than Talbot IMO (his 1st shot goals have to be amongst all-time worst for a G), but Koski needs a good team behind him

    – The Colby Cave: one of the best lines was when he got signed here, someone pointed out that after he signed in Boston by Chia he was a bust, and one poster said “we can only hope history repeats itself” (You had to know the timing: – Chia was fired shortly after Cave signed in Boston)

  3. giddy says:

    That Currie-Cave goal was awesome. I just pray Hitchcock doesn’t turn the blender on and break these guys up.

  4. OmJo says:

    Guy Boucher just got fired!

  5. OmJo says:

    giddy:
    That Currie-Cave goal was awesome. I just pray Hitchcock doesn’t turn the blender on and break these guys up.

    Maybe if he stops drinking the water that’ll be a possibility.

  6. GCW_69 says:

    If they weren’t behind the times they wouldn’t be the Oilers.

  7. giddy says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – Koski is an interesting test for the Oil fans.Against the Leafs the team was brutal, he let in a wicked good shot goal that he should have had, and the next day everything was so incredibly negative about him, the signing, what the F was Chia thinking, his glove is weak,etc

    It’s funny, as Oiler fans we swing so rapidly from pure positivity to falling sky, and Koskinen’s play reflects that real well.

  8. 36 percent body fat says:

    sign marino and hawkey, the other two arent needed.

    look into bringing Parker Aucoin to camp next year or get him on an AHL deal. Late bloomer due to lack of icetime, and local kid.

  9. giddy says:

    OmJo:
    Guy Boucher just got fired!

    That has to be a pity thing. I figured they would bring in a new coach, but after blowing up the team and leaving him nothing to work with, hard to fire a guy out of poor performance.

  10. Ben says:

    Koskinen reminds me of Dubnyk as an Oiler. Huge guy whose overall numbers are ok, but with flurries of exuberant incompetence.

    Of course, he’s also most-of-a-decade older, but apparently still developing in the league. Will he end up being as good as DD? If you have do ask the question…(*DO* you have to ask the question??).

  11. Jethro Tull says:

    OmJo:
    Guy Boucher just got fired!

    Fuck Melnyk.

  12. Durag says:

    I can’t remember if it was here or I saw it on Twitter, but some friends had a bet where if Cave scored this year one was going to buy a Cave jersey, and if he didn’t the other had to buy a Chiarelli jersey.

    All I’m saying is everyone keep their eyes peeled for that Cave jersey in the stands at the rest of the home games this year.

  13. Jethro Tull says:

    Durag:
    I can’t remember if it was here or I saw it on Twitter, but some friends had a bet where if Cave scored this year one was going to buy a Cave jersey, and if he didn’t the other had to buy a Chiarelli jersey.

    All I’m saying is everyone keep their eyes peeled for that Cave jersey in the stands of the rest of the home games this year.

    They should stick to their guns and not…….cave.

  14. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors take on Iowa tonight going for 18 straight and sole possession of the second longest winning streak.

    Big game tonight as the next two are against SJ who are right there with the Condors for first in the division and 2nd overall in the AHL (points percentage).

    Will be interested to see if Bear is back in the lineup – he’s missed the last few weeks, again, and its tough to get much info.

  15. dustrock says:

    Man with another D corps I’d be checking the market on Larsson. Been a big disappointment and I suspect much of it’s injury related.

    He’s probably fine as the 2RHD but having both him and Russell as the top 2 RHD is not ideal.

  16. OriginalPouzar says:

    My goodness is Reggie ever looking fairly close to the Reggie from 2016/17 – yes, its third pairing minutes but he and Benning have been so very good.

    To my eye, Sekera was one of the best players on the ice last night- just so calm, cool and patient with the puck making smart plays but, more than anything, his mobility was top notch . He made a beauty dangle at the Sens blue line on a zone entry – he made back to back spins inside the Sens blue line then a nice pass across prior to the second goal and a few others as well.

    I think he’s going to be very close to the 2016/17 Sekera – he’s doing this without a training camp and coming in mid-season, extremely hard.

    Assuming this keeps up, I really think management needs to try and move Russell and his contract – his NTC does become limited as he has to supply a 10 team list.

    His contract is expensive so, in order to move it without having to retain (at least not more than like $500k), I don’t think we’d get much back in return but we could certainly use that cap space.

    With Klef, Nurse and Sekera on the left side and Jones and Lagesson pushing (great years for both) and Manning still in the system, I really think this needs to be explored by management.

  17. jtblack says:

    Did Woodguy fall of the Turnip Truck?

  18. OriginalPouzar says:

    Cave continues to be involved in scoring chances multiple times a game and has been an absolute possession demon. Any time our bottom six is spending more time in the offensive zone its huge and he (and his line) has been doing it for a couple weeks now.

    Brodizak should be very nervous about his job for next year….

  19. Darth Tu says:

    My thoughts from the game last night:

    – It might be time to give Nurse a break from PP1, he’s made similar mistakes in tracking back, or missing passes over the last few games.
    – Now this isn’t on Nurse, but another problem – maybe let’s stop with the drop pass – teams are reading it and taking the puck and then ending up in 2 on 1 or 2 on 0 situations with great chances to score.
    – Lucic/Cave/Currie is definitely working, stick with it for the rest of the year. This could be the 4th line for next year, or let’s face it, possibly the 3rd.
    – Sekera is playing well. Might be time to move him up the lineup, problem is to where. Initially I was thinking straight swap for Russell, but with the Klef-Larsson recent struggles I’m now thinking a mass shuffle of the D-corps is the way to go.
    – Screw it, I’m with McLellan, keep Drai and McDavid stapled to each other.
    – Chiasson seems to have caught Rieder-itis. It’s a material illness.

  20. OriginalPouzar says:

    For all the flack that Matt Benning takes, he’s consistently right at the top of all the possession and goal share metrics for the Oilers.

    Over the last 20 games, of which he’s played 16, he is second in GF/60 and tops (best) in GA/60 and tops by far.

    Of course, he’s tops in GF% – yes, its in third pairing minutes but he consistently provides plus 3rd pairing minutes.

    Sekera has been essentially right there with him in his return as well.

  21. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Losing to Edmonton was the straw that broke the Boucher’s back.

  22. OriginalPouzar says:

    No reason to break up the Lucic/Cave/Currie trio is right except for the fact that Hitch did it for portions of the game last night as he bumped Lucic up and Rieder down a few times.

  23. Ice Sage says:

    Recency bias notwithstanding, there are glimmers of good things – Currie, Cave, Gagner – that maybe, just maybe, if things break and the oilers don’t hire more doofuses – could morph into the kind of grinding-but-threat-to-score-go-to-the-net support players that the core guys need. Am thinking Sheary types.

  24. OriginalPouzar says:

    I would hope that Hawkey is signed – he has had a fabulous season reminding us a bit of Shane Starrett before he turned pro. If we don’t sign him then it turns out to be a poor trade.

    I don’t imagine that Dudek gets a contract – he has been the most productive of the three Boston College prospects but is a few years old than McPhee and Rasanen.

    Hopefully Marino signs – he’s started to produce a bit offensively in recent weeks.

  25. OriginalPouzar says:

    As an aside, I’m still annoyed that management couldn’t get McLeod under contract in the 2018 calendar year as, when he signs in 2019, his ELC won’t be subject to slide this coming year (it would have been if he would have signed in the 2018 calendar year).

  26. Coiler says:

    Looking at the positives of the wins are nice. But I don’t think we should etch any of these guys names in stone until a new GM is brought in and figures out what the hell he has.

    Sure Colby Cave had a nice game. Lucic too. But it doesn’t take away from the real issues here.

    And trading Adam Larsson is not an answer. That would be a bad reaction to a player who is either gassed or injured or a combo of both. Lets not lump him in the same sentence as Russell. That’s pretty insulting.

  27. Durag says:

    Klima’s_Bucket:
    Losing to Edmonton was the straw that broke the Boucher’s back.

    That is such weird timing. They were the worst team in the league before they traded their 3 best forwards, are they expecting to beat anybody?

  28. dustrock says:

    If we can improve on Kassian/Rieder/Chiasson as wingers next year, ditch Russell, and hope that one of Persson or Bouchard can handle 3rd pairing, things will be better.

    Although I like Benning can he play 2RHD?

    Feel like Persson/Bouchard/Benning should all be playing bottom pairing next year.

    Would love to see Larsson on 2nd pairing.

    If confident Sekera can do 2nd pairing, do you consider moving Nurse?

    Does Jones play LHD or RHD?

    Lots of interesting decisions on D next year I think.

  29. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Ice Sage:
    Recency bias notwithstanding, there are glimmers of good things – Currie, Cave, Gagner – that maybe, just maybe, if things break and the oilers don’t hire more doofuses – could morph into the kind of grinding-but-threat-to-score-go-to-the-net support players that the core guys need.Am thinking Sheary types.

    Rattie to Gagner & Currie to Cave were both examples of skill plays by both passer & shooter, both born out of scrambly plays — a Benning shot into traffic, a Lucic forecheck forcing a turnover — that were suddenly turned into goals through a couple of deft handles of the puck by two different forwards.

    Nice to see the Oilers coming around on the new-fangled idea of skill in the bottom six. It won them a game last night.

  30. Drew says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    My goodness is Reggie ever looking fairly close to the Reggie from 2016/17 – yes, its third pairing minutes but he and Benning have been so very good.

    To my eye, Sekera was one of the best players on the ice last night- just so calm, cool and patient with the puck making smart plays but, more than anything, his mobility was top notch . He made a beauty dangle at the Sens blue line on a zone entry – he made back to back spins inside the Sens blue line then a nice pass across prior to the second goal and a few others as well.

    I think he’s going to be very close to the 2016/17 Sekera – he’s doing this without a training camp and coming in mid-season, extremely hard.

    Assuming this keeps up, I really think management needs to try and move Russell and his contract – his NTC does become limited as he has to supply a 10 team list.

    His contract is expensive so, in order to move it without having to retain (at least not more than like $500k), I don’t think we’d get much back in return but we could certainly use that cap space.

    With Klef, Nurse and Sekera on the left side and Jones and Lagesson pushing (great years for both) and Manning still in the system, I really think this needs to be explored by management.

    “Because Oilers” move Reggie in a cap dump and then play Russell as a third paring cause he could play 2ndRD in a pinch. Song remains the same.

    I think it will be different now though. Reggie can play because of skill and smarts, adios Russell.

  31. godot10 says:

    Paulie:
    Beating OTT reminds me of that Spinal Tap scene where the band finds little comfort in having a dressing room bigger than that of the puppets.

    Hey…but Lucic played well against a glorified AHL team.

  32. Katz_kat says:

    From the current roster, who should get a shot to come back and compete for a spot next training camp? I think if we were all being realistic here the only names that deserve another opportunity with this team right now are:

    ????-McDavid-Draisaitl
    ????-RNH-????
    Khaira-Gagner-Chiasson/Kassian
    Lucic-Cave-Currie/Puljujarvi. As far as skill goes this how it’s lined up so far this season

    Klefbom-Larsson
    Nurse-????
    Sekera-Benning

    Koskinen
    ????

    I don’t think the D corps is actually that bad, but they’re 1 injury away from collapse (as we have seen this year and last). You have to hope it doesn’t come to Sekera again because he’s the only depth adman capable of playing higher up competently. Especially for the inevitable Annual Klefbom injury.

    That’s a lot of top end talent in the forward corps to fill out in a season. As of right now, I’m still convinced your best 2nd line consists of sticking Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi together and dammit it to hell to split them up! A lack of consistency for any stretch of time must be the most frustrating thing to deal with on this team, let alone as a prospect. In a lost season, it’s damming that they couldn’t provide Khaira (who I think shows some real top end skill when given the opportunity) and Puljujarvi an opportunity to prove they’re capable of playing as top 6 players. I am of the belief that a stretch of 15 games together could’ve returned a lot in terms of production, but they just damn Puljujarvi to hell. Next season, if he is still around and our top 6 has holes in it like it does this year, there is literally no reason for hem to not staple those 3 together. The promise was there for everyone to see. Rant done!

  33. ArmchairGM says:

    Nice to get the W, but lets not pretend it means anything.

    The Oilers have won just ONCE in regulation against a playoff team in the past EIGHTY days. During that time, they are 11-18-5, seven games below .500, allowed 124 GA (the most in the league) and scored just 95.

    If anyone still thinks this team has a realistic chance to make the playoffs, they’re delusional.

  34. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    For all the flack that Matt Benning takes, he’s consistently right at the top of all the possession and goal share metrics for the Oilers.

    Over the last 20 games, of which he’s played 16, he is second in GF/60 and tops (best) in GA/60 and tops by far.

    Of course, he’s tops in GF% – yes, its in third pairing minutes but he consistently provides plus 3rd pairing minutes.

    Sekera has been essentially right there with him in his return as well.

    Matt Benning is a 3rd pairing D. That is his level. He is never going to be better. I think if they can get a young cheap NHL-ready forward for him, they should trade him. You certainly don’t want to re-sign him for more money after next season, when cheaper options in the farm will be available for the spot.

    Time to look for a hockey trade.

  35. The Trade Guy says:

    In draft watch. Cozen Vs Dach. It was all Dach in a 6-4 win.

    Dach had a goal and 4 assists, and Cozens with a lone assist.

  36. ArmchairGM says:

    “This year’s team is basically a sliver more successful than the one a year ago. It makes no real difference, but the 2017-18 team finished 9-7-2. Can this year’s team manage to duplicate that finish? If they do, the 2018-19 club will complete the schedule 36-37-9, 81 points.”

    There are only 9 more games against non-playoff teams. Since they can’t seem to win against playoff teams, they’d have to run the table against the non-playoff bunch to finish 9-7-2, which is unlikely.

  37. dustrock says:

    Is there any value in having Hitchcock step down at this point?

    Surely there’s no chance he’s back next year right?

    Right?

    Guys? Anyone?

  38. JimmyV1965 says:

    ArmchairGM:
    Nice to get the W, but lets not pretend it means anything.

    The Oilers have won just ONCE in regulation against a playoff team in the past EIGHTY days. During that time, they are 11-18-5, seven games below .500, allowed 124 GA (the most in the league) and scored just 95.

    If anyone still thinks this team has a realistic chance to make the playoffs, they’re delusional.

    The Oil were awful last night. Play like that and you lose to virtually every team in the league, other than Ottawa. No one watching that game can delude themselves into thinking it’s a playoff team.

  39. Darth Tu says:

    godot10: Matt Benning is a 3rd pairing D.That is his level.He is never going to be better.I think if they can get a young cheap NHL-ready forward for him, they should trade him.You certainly don’t want to re-sign him for more money after next season, when cheaper options in the farm will be available for the spot.

    Time to look for a hockey trade.

    I would agree on this. Benning looks good as part of the 3rd pair, but has never succeeded when stepping up to 2nd pair. I think we know what we have in him, and yes I’m all for building slow, but surely one of Bear/Persson/Lagesson/Jones can grab that 3rd pairing roster spot for next season. Heck, even Petrovic (if the Oilers decide to resign him) would be an option there.

    If there’s a chance to get back a 3rd line winger with a bit of offensive upside I would pull the trigger.

    If you can dump Russell, do you take a run at any free agency D to replace him? A right handed D would be preferable, but the market looks a little thin…

  40. Jethro Tull says:

    godot10: Hey…but Lucic played well against a glorified AHL team.

    How apt. Lucic is playing FOR a glorified AHL team.

  41. Bag of Pucks says:

    I know we’re absolutely desperate for Ws and that’s going to drive the narrative with the lottery pick, but if a legit stud 1D is on the board like a Hedman or Josi, I think that may be the better play.

    I’m not convinced this team actually has a legit 1D and they’re impossible to acquire outside the draft.

    If that player is there for the taking, i would make the pick and consider trading one of Nurse, Klefbom or Larsson for a top 6 W.

  42. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    For all the flack that Matt Benning takes, he’s consistently right at the top of all the possession and goal share metrics for the Oilers.

    Over the last 20 games, of which he’s played 16, he is second in GF/60 and tops (best) in GA/60 and tops by far.

    Of course, he’s tops in GF% – yes, its in third pairing minutes but he consistently provides plus 3rd pairing minutes.

    Sekera has been essentially right there with him in his return as well.

    I’m more than happy to go into next season with this 3rd pairing intact. It looks like, for the defense corps, there really isn’t much work to do but add a competant 2RD.

    Potential UFA targets:
    Stralman
    Myers

    Trade targets with 1 year on contract:
    Spurgeon
    Vatanen
    Faulk
    Tanev
    Gudas

    Most of the NGM’s work will take place up front.

  43. BONE207 says:

    dustrock:
    Is there any value in having Hitchcock step down at this point?

    Surely there’s no chance he’s back next year right?

    Right?

    Guys?Anyone?

    I’d say that without a GM, without a plan & without competent organization, hiring another coach only to have a new GM fire him would make this more ridiculous. Hitch is competent enough to get the team to the finish line. Since half the team will be gone (hopefully) , next year, any coach can come in & pray…uhhh…play them as he sees fit.

  44. ChiliChunk says:

    ArmchairGM: The Oilers have won just ONCE in regulation against a playoff team in the past EIGHTY days.

    That is amazing.

  45. Bag of Pucks says:

    dustrock:
    Is there any value in having Hitchcock step down at this point?

    Surely there’s no chance he’s back next year right?

    Right?

    Guys?Anyone?

    I don’t see the point in another coaching change with the team almost dead cert to miss the playoffs now.

    That said, it’s hard to believe in Hitch as some HC savant when he watches that Nurse Russell pairing every night and does nothing to change it.

  46. Professor Q says:

    Klima’s_Bucket:
    Losing to Edmonton was the straw that broke the Boucher’s back.

    He misses Tampa Bay. I don’t blame him.

  47. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I would hope that Hawkey is signed – he has had a fabulous season reminding us a bit of Shane Starrett before he turned pro.If we don’t sign him then it turns out to be a poor trade.

    I don’t imagine that Dudek gets a contract – he has been the most productive of the three Boston Collegeprospects but is a few years old than McPhee and Rasanen.

    Hopefully Marino signs – he’s started to produce a bit offensively in recent weeks.

    What’s the scope on any other NCAA or CHL prospects that Edmonton could sign in FA?

    Lowetide mentioned a few the other day, but I admit I’m not too versed regardless. One of them had an interesting name.

  48. pts2pndr says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    I know we’re absolutely desperate for Ws and that’s going to drive the narrative with the lottery pick, but if a legit stud 1D is on the board like a Hedman or Josi, I think that may be the better play.

    I’m not convinced this team actually has a legit 1D and they’re impossible to acquire outside the draft.

    If that player is there for the taking, i would make the pick and consider trading one of Nurse, Klefbom or Larsson for a top 6 W.

    And who are you going to move to get the two top four right D that you will need if you trade Larsson? I do believe you could move a Left shot D for a right second pairing D if you could find a true hockey trade. Value in for value out!

  49. anduril says:

    A strategy for rebuilding the Oilers:

    Lucic (30% Retained) + JP for Tippett
    – I’m thinking FLA might like the combination of Borgstrom and JP. Barkov too could be a mentor.

    1st, 2nd and 3rd for Hoffman and 1st (Assuming ours is higher)
    – For whatever reason, Hoffman has been listed as trade bait. Swap our firsts and throw in a 2nd and 3rd means FLA receives more than they gave for this asset. FLA goes out and signs Panarin and Bobrovsky.

    Benning for Brown
    – I like Benning but think this is a fair deal. Alternately I’d trade Bear for Brown. If necessary, a sweetener.

    Sign Burakovsky and Chiasson
    – I’m assuming WSH doesn’t qualify Burakovsky. If they do, I’d look to trade for him. I think it would be a buy low situation. Putting him with Brown and McDavid, however, could see them revive their junior chemistry.

    I’d also look for a way to move on Russell and find a serviceable RHD if at all possible. A PK specialist, preferably LW, would be another target. I’d consider signing Eberle if moving on Russell created sufficient cap space.

    Recruit Kris Knoblauch as the new head coach.

    Burakovsky – McDavid – Brown
    Hoffman – Draisaitl – Chiasson
    Khaira – RNH – Gagner/Eberle
    (PK Specialist) – Cave – Currie/Kassian

    Klefbom – Larsson
    Sekera – Russell (or replacement)
    Nurse – Bouchard

    Koskinen
    Stolarz (or Veteran)

  50. JimmyV1965 says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    I know we’re absolutely desperate for Ws and that’s going to drive the narrative with the lottery pick, but if a legit stud 1D is on the board like a Hedman or Josi, I think that may be the better play.

    I’m not convinced this team actually has a legit 1D and they’re impossible to acquire outside the draft.

    If that player is there for the taking, i would make the pick and consider trading one of Nurse, Klefbom or Larsson for a top 6 W.

    There are six players on this team that cannot be traded:

    Klef
    Larsson
    Nurse
    RNH
    Drai
    McDavid

    They are the only skilled players on the team. Trading one of them simply means you’re moving skill from one spot to another spot. Shuffling deck chairs.

    Having said that, if the Oil decide to embark on yet another rebuild, we should probably trade RNH. Expecting him to resign in two years is more wishful thinking so it’s best to trade him while his value is high.

  51. Clarkenstein says:

    ArmchairGM:
    Nice to get the W, but lets not pretend it means anything.

    The Oilers have won just ONCE in regulation against a playoff team in the past EIGHTY days. During that time, they are 11-18-5, seven games below .500, allowed 124 GA (the most in the league) and scored just 95.

    If anyone still thinks this team has a realistic chance to make the playoffs, they’re delusional.

    Thank you.

  52. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    As an aside, I’m still annoyed that management couldn’t get McLeod under contract in the 2018 calendar year as, when he signs in 2019, his ELC won’t be subject to slide this coming year (it would have been if he would have signed in the 2018 calendar year).

    He doesn’t have to be signed until June 1, 2020 though. Could they leave him in the O next year instead of burning a year off his ELC, or is he too old? He turns 20 Sept. 21.

  53. leadfarmer says:

    dustrock:
    Is there any value in having Hitchcock step down at this point?

    Surely there’s no chance he’s back next year right?

    Right?

    Guys?Anyone?

    Looking at the players athletic poll.
    No one wants to play for Hitch. If you are winning maybe they would put up with him but they are not.
    Time to put that dusty ole relic back on the shelf

  54. ArmchairGM says:

    godot10: Hey…but Lucic played well on a glorified AHL team.

    FTFY

  55. godot10 says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    I know we’re absolutely desperate for Ws and that’s going to drive the narrative with the lottery pick, but if a legit stud 1D is on the board like a Hedman or Josi, I think that may be the better play.

    I’m not convinced this team actually has a legit 1D and they’re impossible to acquire outside the draft.

    If that player is there for the taking, i would make the pick and consider trading one of Nurse, Klefbom or Larsson for a top 6 W.

    If Byram is sitting there, I would have a hard time not taking him. He fits in well with the timeline of Sekera’s contract expiration.

  56. OriginalPouzar says:

    No surprise with 14 straight wins but Shane Starrett was named goalie of the month in the AHL.

  57. Silver Streak says:

    OMG here we go again….forget about points and wins and such….this years draft has 3 or 4 elite prospects …..kids that have a real chance help us solve our holes on offence….we now are in the 6th draft position…..FOR WHAT BENEFIT ?. Play the hell out of Petrovic, Manning, and Stolorz.

    Call it what you want but if it gets us Cousins or Dach in 3 months its the right call.

  58. ArmchairGM says:

    JimmyV1965: The Oil were awful last night. Play like that and you lose to virtually every team in the league

    Yup. And even against Ottawa they needed some help from the refs to win it. Sad.

  59. ArmchairGM says:

    Jethro Tull: How apt. Lucic is playing FOR a glorified AHL team.

    HA! didn’t see this before posting…

  60. ArmchairGM says:

    ChiliChunk: That is amazing.

    Yeah, and that win was against Minnesota.

  61. Munny says:

    godot10: Hey…but Lucic played well against a glorified AHL team.

    He’s played well several games in a row now. In fact he has been noticeably better since New Year’s. Not saying he’s value for his contract, but credit where credit is due.

  62. Munny says:

    I’m guessing the Boucher move was either planned before the trades, or he lost it on Management for making the trades.

  63. Munny says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    No surprise with 14 straight wins but Shane Starrett was named goalie of the month in the AHL.

    If the game has slowed down for him the way it did in Junior, we may have a real prospect there.

  64. Munny says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Rattie to Gagner & Currie to Cave wereboth examples of skill plays by both passer & shooter, both born out of scrambly plays — a Benning shot into traffic, a Lucic forecheck forcing a turnover — that were suddenly turned into goals through a couple of deft handles of the puck by two different forwards.

    Nice to see the Oilers coming around on the new-fangled idea of skill in the bottom six. It won them a game last night.

    You young whippersnappers and your new-fangled contraptions…

  65. texmex says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Jack Michaels
    @EdmontonJack
    ·
    Mar 1
    Oiler practice in CBJ:

    RNH-McDavid-Kassian
    Lucic-Draisaitl-Chiasson
    Rieder-Cave-Currie
    Rattie-Malone-Gagner

    Klefbom-Larsson
    Nurse-Russell
    Sekera-Benning

  66. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lucic has played well that last couple of games but I see no reason to move him off the Cave/Currie line and up to the Drai line. I’ve got no problem moving Rieder down but Lucic/Cave/Currie have been money and I don’t know why this coach likes to mess with lines that are working in the name of rewarding guys up the lineup. If they want to move Rieder off Drai’s line, switch him with Rattie – Geez.

    Also, this coach just won’t move away from the Nurse/Russell pair (or the Klef/Larsson pair) – both have been struggling for a very long time now.

  67. Dipsy Doodle Dandy says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – Koski is an interesting test for the Oil fans.Against the Leafs the team was brutal, he let in a wicked good shot goal that he should have had, and the next day everything was so incredibly negative about him, the signing, what the F was Chia thinking, his glove is weak,etc

    – After a good game, he does not get 10% of the praise amplification he gets when he loses

    – Next year the team is likely going to be better than this year.While Koski has been better than Talbot, he’s not Hasek.Like most decent goalies, he will play better when the team has 6 bona-fide D, and will have some very bad starts.

    I can’t believe the negativity to Koskinen. His glove is way better than Talbot’s. His save percentage is .946 and it’s crickets for comments.

    I can’t believe that Lowetide is blaming Russell on the 2nd Ottawa goal. He dives across to stop the pass using extreme effort and Borowicki makes a great play to pull it loose and bury it…..but it’s Russell’s fault. Obviously he’s not your favorite. I hope you didn’t coach kids hockey.

  68. Durag says:

    texmex:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Jack Michaels
    @EdmontonJack
    ·
    Mar 1
    Oiler practice in CBJ:

    RNH-McDavid-Kassian
    Lucic-Draisaitl-Chiasson
    Rieder-Cave-Currie
    Rattie-Malone-Gagner

    Klefbom-Larsson
    Nurse-Russell
    Sekera-Benning

    I’d like to see Gagner in the top 6. He’s the only guy outside the big 3 who is scoring 5v5.

  69. YKOil says:

    Benning can only be traded if you get a true #1 or #2 RHD imo. Russell has to be moved out of that #2RHD spot.

    Trade Russell out to free up Cap. Get a true RHD for 1st or 2nd pair. THEN trade Benning and bring up Persson, et al.

  70. OmJo says:

    Is Guy Boucher an Oilers target?

    Look at the work he did in 16-17. That playoff run was something else.

    He’s a victim of poor ownership, IMO.

  71. McNuge93 says:

    One of the additional frustrations to how disappointing the season has gone is what have we learned or advanced this year vs last year. Not much.

    At the start of the season we had hopes one or more of Pulu, Yam or Rattie would become bonafide scoring wingers. At this point none of them have, we still don’t know what we have with Pulu, we know Yam is not NHL ready, and we know Rattie is a marginal winger.

    Goaltending – we were hoping either of Talbot or Koskinen would prove to be our number one and we would sign that guy. Neither guy proved that and yet we now have a questionable goalie locked up for three years. So a step backwards.

    On defence we were hoping to see Nurse take another step forward and we wondered if Sekera would recover and if he would resemble his 2016 self. Nurse seems the same and we still don’t know if middling 2nd pairD is his limit. The good news although with small sample size is Sek looks to be at 80 or 90% of her s former self which is pretty good.

    Free agent signings – we knowChiasson is a bonafide NHL winger, Reider and Brodziak were disappointments. I would like to see Chiasson signed before July 1 at a reasonable amount.

    If Lowetide is right about Cave at least one of our waiver pickups has worked which would be a plus. However, we are worse off with cap with the Manning.

    So we still have many question marks and few, if any, problems solved. Very discouraging.

  72. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    OmJo,

    I’d rather watch grass grow than see the Oilers play trap hockey under Boucher.

    We need to aim higher.

  73. OmJo says:

    Faizal Khamisa
    @SNFaizalKhamisa

    Dorion says he made up his mind on firing Guy Boucher last night, and wanted to sleep on it. Says he met with players after practice today and said their play recently is unacceptable.

    Ladies and gents, I think the Senators aren’t just trying to take our position of #1 on the draft podium, but they’re also trying to take our position of #1 in most dysfunctional organization in the NHL.

    He traded their franchise defenceman and entire first line and then says this? Lol.

  74. Alpine says:

    I honestly can’t tell how good of a coach Boucher is. I do remember his famous trapping in Tampa and that time Pronger just stopped while exiting his own zone and was visually displeased when no Tampa forwards pressured him.

    He has some wild inconsistency in his coaching tenures, even going back to his time in Drummondville. Also, didn’t the Sens kinda PDO their way to the ECF two years ago?

    Not sure he’s a great fit for the Oilers who need someone more consistent. I know Todd was supposed to be consistent and he wasn’t.

  75. OmJo says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    If it gets this team to a SCF though?

    Karlsson still up up 130+ pts in ~150 games under Boucher so it doesn’t stifle offense. Plus he never had talent like Draisaitl and McDavid in Ottawa. Nothing against Stone or Duchene.

    Though I couldn’t imagine a Quebecois head coach in Edmonton for some reason.

  76. Sierra says:

    ArmchairGM:

    The Oilers have won just ONCE in regulation against a playoff team in the past EIGHTY days. During that time, they are 11-18-5, seven games below .500, allowed 124 GA (the most in the league) and scored just 95.

    Wow, this is so bloody awful

  77. Bag of Pucks says:

    JimmyV1965: There are six players on this team that cannot be traded:

    Klef
    Larsson
    Nurse
    RNH
    Drai
    McDavid

    They are the only skilled players on the team. Trading one of them simply means you’re moving skill from one spot to another spot. Shuffling deck chairs.

    Having said that, if the Oil decide to embark on yet another rebuild, we should probably trade RNH. Expecting him to resign in two years is more wishful thinking so it’s best to trade him while his value is high.

    I’m of the opinion that no player should be considered untradeable if the right offer arises. I’d even trade McDavid for a Lindros type return, but that’s probably cos i always considered Forsberg to be the better player.

    There is warts with a lot of your untouchables. Larsson lacks offense. Klefbom has injury history. Nurse goes walkabout. Etc.

    I find it hard to reconcile the core for a perennial lottery contention team being untouchable. And i don’t consider drafting a 1D and then trading a 3D for a Top 6 W to be shuffling deck chairs. It’s upgrading the roster in two positions of need.

    You could also argue that drafting blue chip D and trading for scoring Fs is the NSH model and that model is excelling.

  78. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Western Conference Playoff Standings using Points Percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Pacific
    CGY 25
    SJS 18
    VGK 8

    Central
    WPG 15
    NSH 13
    STL 11

    Wildcard
    DAL 5
    MIN 4

    Out of playoffs
    COL 4
    ARI 3
    CHI -1
    VAN -2
    EDM -3
    ANA -7
    LAK -10

    Relevant games today:

    COL at SJS (SJS -160)

  79. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Eastern Conference Playoff Standings using Points Percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Atlantic
    TBY 37
    BOS 21
    TOR 18

    Metropolitan
    NYI 18
    WSH 15
    CBJ 12

    Wildcard
    CAR 11
    PIT 11

    Out of playoffs
    MTL 11
    PHI 4
    FLA 3
    BUF 3
    NYR 1
    NJD -6
    DET -9
    OTT -15

    Relevant games today:

    PIT at BUF (PIT -120)
    MTL at NYR (MTL -130)
    STL at CAR (CAR -135)

  80. Bag of Pucks says:

    OmJo:
    Faizal Khamisa
    @SNFaizalKhamisa


    Dorion says he made up his mind on firing Guy Boucher last night, and wanted to sleep on it. Says he met with players after practice today and said their play recently is unacceptable.

    Ladies and gents, I think the Senators aren’t just trying to take our position of #1 on the draft podium, but they’re also trying to take our position of #1 in most dysfunctional organization in the NHL.

    He traded their franchise defenceman and entire first line and then says this? Lol.

    Pretty hard not to be a dysfunctional org when the Owner is a hot mess, as we well know.

  81. Sierra says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    I know we’re absolutely desperate for Ws and that’s going to drive the narrative with the lottery pick, but if a legit stud 1D is on the board like a Hedman or Josi, I think that may be the better play.

    I’m not convinced this team actually has a legit 1D and they’re impossible to acquire outside the draft.

    If that player is there for the taking, i would make the pick and consider trading one of Nurse, Klefbom or Larsson for a top 6 W.

    Let’s say it plays out. Who plays right D? A combination of the #1 pick, Bouchard, Russell and Benning?

  82. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Sierra,

    And Larsson.

  83. Bag of Pucks says:

    Sierra: Let’s say it plays out. Who plays right D? A combination of the #1 pick, Bouchard, Russell and Benning?

    My preferences would be to trade Klefbom and Russell. If the drafted 1D is leftie, Larsson stays up. If the pick is a RHD, then Larsson moves down to anchor the 2nd. Ideally Bouchard starts on 3rd pairing when he’s ready.

    I cant speak to specific draft targets as I’m beyond sick of having to look at prospect porn this time of the season.

  84. OmJo says:

    Please for the love of God break up the Nurse-Russell pair.

    Klefbom-Larsson
    Nurse-Sekera
    Russell-Benning

    Or

    Klefbom-Larsson
    Nurse-Benning
    Sekera-Russell

  85. JimmyV1965 says:

    OmJo:
    Is Guy Boucher an Oilers target?

    Look at the work he did in 16-17. That playoff run was something else.

    He’s a victim of poor ownership, IMO.

    Would hate Boucher as the next coach. It would be funny though to see Stauffer do mental gymnastics to support the signing. He does not like the coach at all.

  86. giddy says:

    OmJo:
    Faizal Khamisa
    @SNFaizalKhamisa


    Dorion says he made up his mind on firing Guy Boucher last night, and wanted to sleep on it. Says he met with players after practice today and said their play recently is unacceptable.

    Ladies and gents, I think the Senators aren’t just trying to take our position of #1 on the draft podium, but they’re also trying to take our position of #1 in most dysfunctional organization in the NHL.

    He traded their franchise defenceman and entire first line and then says this? Lol.

    I’ve never thought of Dorion as a great GM (or even good for that matter), but I have thought he has mostly been the victim of Melnky’s short thinking and shallow pockets. Not so certain of that anymore.

  87. Dr. Taboggan says:

    OmJo,

    Agreed. Russell and Nurse need to be separated ASAP. Or maybe the pairing is part of the tank plan?

    I am also worried about Klef and Larsson, they have been leaking 5v5 goals too.

  88. Nit64 says:

    Pop Quiz. Who would you hire as next GM. In one line, why?

    I’ll start:

    Kelly McCrimmon. Direct experience in a good NHL front office built from ground zero.

  89. leadfarmer says:

    OmJo:
    Faizal Khamisa
    @SNFaizalKhamisa


    Dorion says he made up his mind on firing Guy Boucher last night, and wanted to sleep on it. Says he met with players after practice today and said their play recently is unacceptable.

    Ladies and gents, I think the Senators aren’t just trying to take our position of #1 on the draft podium, but they’re also trying to take our position of #1 in most dysfunctional organization in the NHL.

    He traded their franchise defenceman and entire first line and then says this? Lol.

    I looked at the tire fire and needed a nights sleep before I went outside and threw more fuel on it.
    Sens franchise is entertaining.

  90. leadfarmer says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    OmJo,

    Agreed. Russell and Nurse need to be separated ASAP. Or maybe the pairing is part of the tank plan?

    I am also worried about Klef and Larsson, they have been leaking 5v5 goals too.

    Russell just needs to be removed from the roster. He is teaching some bad habits to these young guys.
    But if the plan is to turn Nurse into Russell then we should continue

  91. SwedishPoster says:

    On the subject of RHD Joel Persson had another helper last night, the other assist on the goal went to former NHLer Kris Versteeg btw.

    Filip Berglund had no points but hit the crossbar and had a fight in about 18 minutes. It was his second SHL fight I think, considering how rare fighting is in the SHL his fighting NHLe must be around 40 now…

  92. dessert1111 says:

    Looks like 4 teams fighting for 2 spots in the west.

    I won’t completely discount Chicago, Vancouver, or Edmonton yet, but it’d take a hell of a run, of which Edm and Van show no signs of having.

    The only real reason for my ‘optimism’ at this point is that isn’t the closest we’ve been in March for awhile, outside of the outlier year.

  93. JimmyV1965 says:

    Bag of Pucks: I’m of the opinion that no player should be considered untradeable if the right offer arises. I’d even trade McDavid for a Lindros type return, but that’s probably cos i always considered Forsberg to be the better player.

    There is warts with a lot of your untouchables. Larsson lacks offense. Klefbom has injury history. Nurse goes walkabout. Etc.

    I find it hard to reconcile the core for a perennial lottery contention team being untouchable. And i don’t consider drafting a 1D and then trading a 3D for a Top 6 W to be shuffling deck chairs. It’s upgrading the roster in two positions of need.

    You could also argue that drafting blue chip D and trading for scoring Fs is the NSH model and that model is excelling.

    My point stands. The dman you draft this summer won’t be ready for at least three years and won’t be a number one dman for five years. It really can’t be connected to Nurse trade today. Trading Nurse for a winger is truly shuffling deck chairs. Of course every player can be traded and of course it makes sense if you fleece some team and get way more value than the player you traded, but none of that can be assumed. We need to add good players to the core. Every one of our dmen has warts, but the top three are good players. Trading them doesn’t make sense, unless you fleece someone in a trade, or add something else of value and get a much better player.

  94. dessert1111 says:

    The only contract I think is both (a) a problem and (b) movable on next year’s roster is Russell.

    If the Oilers could clear space for an upgrade on the 2RD spot, that would go a long way I think.

    I wouldn’t trade Benning this offseason, but maybe next year if the guys below him on the depth chart make him redundant. He’s not yet.

  95. leadfarmer says:

    I dont like how many crappy teams we play the rest of the year.
    We may pass a few teams and create an appearance of all is well

  96. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Hypothetically if the Oilers find a GM in the next month and give the new GM freedom to clean house do you think this can reasonably be done before the draft/free agency? Or is there not enough time to get new scouts (pro and amateur) before this offseason?

  97. Andy Dufresne says:

    BONE207: I’d say that without a GM, without a plan & without competent organization, hiring another coach only to have a new GM fire him would make this more ridiculous. Hitch is competent enough to get the team to the finish line. Since half the team will be gone (hopefully) , next year, any coach can come in & pray…uhhh…play them as he sees fit.

    The Anaheim players got Randy Carlyle fired. Hes a Coach very much in the mold of Hitch (at least the old Hitch). The reward…..a top 5 pick (or better).

  98. Andy Dufresne says:

    JimmyV1965: The Oil were awful last night. Play like that and you lose to virtually every team in the league,

    Koskinen won that game last night.

  99. dustrock says:

    There’s a fantastic Twitter thread pointing out all that has happened to the Sens since losing Game 7 of the Conference Finals, I can try to copy and paste in here if people.

    If you needed some perspective to feel better about being an Oilers fan, reading the timeline on the Sens in the last 2 years will do it.

  100. Andy Dufresne says:

    Nit64:
    Pop Quiz. Who would you hire as next GM. In one line, why?

    I’ll start:

    Kelly McCrimmon. Direct experience in a good NHL front office built from ground zero.

    I said awhile back, I care more about the process and the criteria. Why can’t/isn’t the process and crieteria more public?

    I have no f#cking clue who they should hire. But when I hear that Nicholson is reaching out to 30 of his competitors for their views/feedback I shudder. WTF?!

    I can tell you who I dont want, I dont want Keith Gretzky (or his brother, or any of his brothers friends) Forget nepotism, just the idea that familairity is a key concideration for this org….they “know a guy” is concerning.

    Some will say that Nicholson is well connected/respected and that because of this he should come back with some good intel.

    Sounds sketchy to me.

    Who in the Oilers organization has the right skill set to evaluate the candidates?

    You almost wish there was an outside Head Hunter type firm. You send them your criteria and they provide you with a list of candidates. You narrow down the list and interview the top five.

    AND the new GM had better come with a fully developed business plan. One that establishes/proves that he is not going to squander the McDavid Mulligan.

    I almost hate to say it, but we might be better off if Katz is driving the bus on this one. He knows the process that is followed in the Fortune 500 world.

  101. OriginalPouzar says:

    giddy:
    That Currie-Cave goal was awesome. I just pray Hitchcock doesn’t turn the blender on and break these guys up.

    Well, he did “break up” the line last night, moving Lucic off it and replacing him with Rieder (presumably in the name of giving Lucic more minutes because he was playing well).

    Lines at practice today have Rieder on that line – I don’t get it, Milan was playing well with those two through a couple of games and then the coach changes it, presumably because “Milan is going” so he should get more minutes.

    Its like when Chiasson was hot earlier in the year with Drai, Hitch then moved him up to McDavid’s wing expressly citing the need to get him more minutes.

    How about you leave the lines that are playing well alone coach?

  102. Andy Dufresne says:

    dustrock:
    There’s a fantastic Twitter thread pointing out all that has happened to the Sens since losing Game 7 of the Conference Finals, I can try to copy and paste in here if people.

    If you needed some perspective to feel better about being an Oilers fan, reading the timeline on the Sens in the last 2 years will do it.

    The Ottawa franchice died of cancer. Colon cancer to be precise.

  103. Bag of Pucks says:

    JimmyV1965: My point stands. The dman you draft this summer won’t be ready for at least three years and won’t bea number one dman for five years. It really can’t be connected to Nurse trade today. Trading Nurse for a winger is truly shuffling deck chairs. Of course every player can be traded and of course it makes sense if you fleece some team and get way more value than the player you traded, but none of that can be assumed. We need to add good players to the core.Every one of our dmen has warts, but the top three are good players. Trading them doesn’t make sense, unless you fleece someone in a trade, or add something else of value and get a much better player.

    If a true stud 1D is available when the Oil pick, like an Ekblad, Jones or Doughty, those guys are plug and play. No 3 year waiting period.

  104. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar: Well, he did “break up” the line last night, moving Lucic off it and replacing him with Rieder (presumably in the name of giving Lucic more minutes because he was playing well).

    Lines at practice today have Rieder on that line – I don’t get it, Milan was playing well with those two through a couple of games and then the coach changes it, presumably because “Milan is going” so he should get more minutes.

    Its like when Chiasson was hot earlier in the year with Drai, Hitch then moved him up to McDavid’s wing expressly citing the need to get him more minutes.

    How about you leave the lines that are playing well alone coach?

    I don’t think either Hitch or McLellan were/are “chemistry” coaches.

    They both seem to beleive that you move players up and down the lineup based on how well they performed in the last game or two. They both use roster configuration as a punishment and reward style system. Play well, Ill move you up, have a bad game and Ill move you down. That, minutes, and PP time.

    TMac at least believed in the concept of forward pairings….he just didnt have a roster deep enough to fully implement the concept.

  105. Bag of Pucks says:

    Andy Dufresne: I said awhile back, I care more about the process and the criteria. Why can’t/isn’t the process and crieteria more public?

    I have no f#cking clue who they should hire. But when I hear that Nicholson is reaching out to 30 of his competitors for their views/feedback I shudder.WTF?!

    I can tell you who I dont want, I dont want Keith Gretzky (or his brother, or any of his brothers friends)

    Some will say that Nicholson is well connected/respected and that because of this he should come back with some good intel.

    Sounds sketchy to me. You almost wish there was an outside Head Hunter type firm. You send them your criteria and they provide you with a list of candidates. You narrow down the list and interview the top five.

    And why would your competiors be interested in feeding you anything other than misinformation? Man this reeks of desperation having to interview the competition to find out how to properly run your business.

    It seems like Burgers has realized that picking an international allstar team doesnt equate to the more difficult arbitrage of talent procurement in a fixed cap system.

  106. OmJo says:

    Bag of Pucks: And why would your competiors be interested in feeding you anything other than misinformation? Man this reeks of desperation having to interview the competition to find out how to properly run your business.

    It seems like Burgers has realized that picking an international allstar team doesnt equate to the more difficult arbitrage of talent procurement in a fixed cap system.

    Honestly, I think with the NHL’s own “Old Boys Club” that it isn’t so far-fetched that Nicholson could get some useful information from the “competition”… Most of these guys are buddies, no?

  107. godot10 says:

    Bag of Pucks: My preferences would be to trade Klefbom and Russell. If the drafted 1D is leftie, Larsson stays up. If the pick is a RHD, then Larsson moves down to anchor the 2nd. Ideally Bouchard starts on 3rd pairing when he’s ready.

    I cant speak to specific draft targets as I’m beyond sick of having to look at prospect porn this time of the season.

    Byram or any drafted D won’t be ready for at least one year, probably two, just as Sekera’s contract runs out. And even then will only be ready for 3rd pairing minutes plus PP. Bouchard needs one year in the AHL.

    Anybody we draft shouldn’t be playing next year.

  108. BONE207 says:

    OmJo:
    Faizal Khamisa
    @SNFaizalKhamisa


    Dorion says he made up his mind on firing Guy Boucher last night, and wanted to sleep on it. Says he met with players after practice today and said their play recently is unacceptable.

    Ladies and gents, I think the Senators aren’t just trying to take our position of #1 on the draft podium, but they’re also trying to take our position of #1 in most dysfunctional organization in the NHL.

    He traded their franchise defenceman and entire first line and then says this? Lol.

    Hell, what little I did see of the game, I thought Ottawa outplayed the Oilers. Especially the 1st period. Well it’s hard to soar with eagles when you’re working with turkeys. Gord knows there’s a lot in that city.

  109. Bag of Pucks says:

    godot10: Byram or any drafted D won’t be ready for at least one year, probably two, just as Sekera’s contract runs out.And even then will only be ready for 3rd pairing minutes plus PP.Bouchard needsone year in the AHL.

    Anybody we draft shouldn’t be playing next year.

    K. Sounds like the wrong draft class for this strategy. Surprised there’s no stud D good to plug & play. There’s usually 1 or 2 every draft.

  110. BONE207 says:

    OmJo:
    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    If it gets this team to a SCF though?

    Karlsson still up up 130+ pts in ~150 games under Boucher so it doesn’t stifle offense. Plus he never had talent like Draisaitl and McDavid in Ottawa. Nothing against Stone or Duchene.

    Though I couldn’t imagine a Quebecois head coach in Edmonton for some reason.

    If you heard LTs rant yesterday, a different culture is exactly who the Oilers should hire. Quebecois in Alberta is as different as it gets…tu ne crois pas?

  111. godot10 says:

    Bag of Pucks: K. Sounds like the wrong draft class for this strategy. Surprised there’s no stud D good to plug & play. There’s usually 1 or 2 every draft.

    Plug and play defensemen don’t really exist except for near generational talents, or you land in an ideal situation…Jones in the Nashville D factory, or Ekblad into the mentoring of Bryran Campbell.

    Doughty and Dahlin are near generational talents. Heiskanen spend an extra year in Europe.

  112. Andy Dufresne says:

    OmJo: Honestly, I think with the NHL’s own “Old Boys Club” that it isn’t so far-fetched that Nicholson could get some useful information from the “competition”… Most of these guys are buddies, no?

    I actually think you have to be underhanded. You need to focus, in part, on the assets of the guys who won’t/don’t talk to you. You need, as a part of your list, the assets that other organizations are desperate to hang on to. You need to be creative in how you identify and court these assets within and outside of the rules. You gotta be willing to rustle some feathers.

    In the business world they call it corporate poaching and they have it down to a science. Again, why Katz might be the guy to spearhead this inniative.

  113. Andy Dufresne says:

    BONE207: If you heard LTs rant yesterday, a different culture is exactly who the Oilers should hire. Quebecois in Alberta is as different as it gets…tu ne crois pas?

    Ron Hextal is as anti-Oilers OBC as it gets. N’est-il pas?

  114. Andy Dufresne says:

    With the hiring of a new GM and Coach. Do we have to be at all concerned with over-correcting?

    The last hires, like them or not, were recognized as top 3 candidates. Incumbent guys, Mainstream guys, Insiders.

    We have one McDavid Mulligan left here. Should we go outside the mainstream? Incredibly risky.

  115. OriginalPouzar says:

    Darth Tu:
    My thoughts from the game last night:

    – Lucic/Cave/Currie is definitely working, stick with it for the rest of the year.This could be the 4th line for next year, or let’s face it, possibly the 3rd.

    – Sekera is playing well.Might be time to move him up the lineup, problem is to where.Initially I was thinking straight swap for Russell, but with the Klef-Larsson recent struggles I’m now thinking a mass shuffle of the D-corps is the way to go.

    1) Shit, Hitch didn’t even stick with it for the game – rewarding Lucic for making some nice passes with a spot on Drai’s wing – and that is how the lines were set at practice today – this coach….

    2) Agreed, 100% – both of the top two pairings have struggled mightily recently. I’d be OK with an entire re-shuffle and, yes, Sekera with more minutes (of course, if he is ready). Wouldn’t even mind trying Sekera on his off-side for a stretch. I do not like the idea for next year, however, I also don’t believe management will focus on a 2RD stop-gap like they should.

  116. Ribs says:

    Andy Dufresne: In the business world they call it corporate poaching and they have it down to a science. Again, why Katz might be the guy to spearhead this inniative.

    And we won’t be happy unless it costs the team another draft pick!

  117. OriginalPouzar says:

    dustrock:
    If we can improve on Kassian/Rieder/Chiasson as wingers next year, ditch Russell, and hope that one of Persson or Bouchard can handle 3rd pairing, things will be better.

    Although I like Benning can he play 2RHD?

    Feel like Persson/Bouchard/Benning should all be playing bottom pairing next year.

    Would love to see Larsson on 2nd pairing.

    If confident Sekera can do 2nd pairing, do you consider moving Nurse?

    Does Jones play LHD or RHD?

    Lots of interesting decisions on D next year I think.

    1) Don’t discount Lagesson and Jones as options on the 3rd pairing. I don’t think that Bouchard should be an option out of camp. He is too important of a prospect to not give him AHL time – this is a d-man, not a forward – few make the jump directly from the CHL to the NHL. We will finally have the depth to not force him in to the NHL lineup and that must be taken advantage of no matter how many stretch passes he makes in the exhibition schedule.

    2) Benning is playing great right now with Sekera as 3RD and he always has very good metrics on the 3rd pairing. 2 years running now, we’ve gone in to the season hoping he can play 2RD and he’s failed each time and Kris Russell has proven to be better. I don’t think we can count on Benning being the 2RD – maybe, just maybe, with Sekera as the polished though?

    3) Sekera looking like he may get back to close to previous form should not “allow” the team to trade Nurse, it should “allow” them to trade Russell, in my opinion

    4) Jones has played more right side than left side as a Condor.

  118. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: Hey…but Lucic played well against a glorified AHL team.

    So:

    1) Lucic plays well against Toronto – no credit is due because everyone is watching and its easy to play well when all eyes are on. He should only get credit when noone is watching.

    2) Lucic plays well against Ottawa (“noone watching”) – no credit because its a glorified AHL team.

    Seems like excuses to fit a narrative….

  119. Gret99zky says:

    OmJo:
    Ladies and gents, I think the Senators aren’t just trying to take our position of #1 on the draft podium, but they’re also trying to take our position of #1 in most dysfunctional organization in the NHL.

    LOL

    And doesn’t Colorado own Ottawa’s first pick?

  120. OriginalPouzar says:

    Darth Tu: I would agree on this.Benning looks good as part of the 3rd pair, but has never succeeded when stepping up to 2nd pair.I think we know what we have in him, and yes I’m all for building slow, but surely one of Bear/Persson/Lagesson/Jones can grab that 3rd pairing roster spot for next season.Heck, even Petrovic (if the Oilers decide to resign him) would be an option there.

    If there’s a chance to get back a 3rd line winger with a bit of offensive upside I would pull the trigger.

    If you can dump Russell, do you take a run at any free agency D to replace him? A right handed D would be preferable, but the market looks a little thin…

    This is all true.

    Benning takes alot of flack but generally performs very well in the 3rd pairing and has always faltered when asked to play up the lineup – forcing the team to go with Kris Russell as 3RD.

    While, of course, he is available in a trade, the team needs to move away from the premise of “kids should be ready, lets trade the incumbent” and move to the having the kid(s) prove they are ready and then trading the incumbent.

    Don’t get me wrong, with each of Persson, Jones, and Lagesson with real shots to be NHL ready (and Bear could even be thrown in that group), its highly likely that the spot can be filled but there should be competition for it.

    Of course, if Connor Brown is available straight up for Benning, we make that trade, but I’m not forcing Benning out the door unless there is a trade that we can win.

  121. Dicky94 says:

    I wonder if we see some more kids called up if they ever do lose another game in Bakersfield. If the Oilers can win the next two it could get interesting down the stretch. Some reinforcements might help the Oilers. (Yes I still think the Oilers make the playoffs)

  122. OmJo says:

    Gret99zky: LOL

    And doesn’t Colorado own Ottawa’s first pick?

    Yup. Not the best timing to start their rebuild as a potential Jack Hughes would have been a good start.

    Hughes vs Matthews could make the Battle of Ontario a bit more interesting.

  123. Andy Dufresne says:

    The Chicago Blackhawks fired Joel Quenneville and replaced him with Jeremy Colliton.

    Why? Not only why did they fire a guy who was until the day of his firing, regarded as one of the elite coaches in the NHL. but why did they hire Colliton, who nobody on this site had ever heard of???

    What were the criteria. What is special about Colliton?

    Stan Bowman, “All of those associated with Jeremy (Colliton) strongly believe he possesses many of the tools that will make him a successful head coach in this league,” Bowman said. “He has been very impressive as a communicator, a leader, and coach. He knows the Blackhawks system, understands our players and our culture.”

    No seriously….why?…….cause all those things you say about him are true of Joel Quenville too. SO there has to be other reasons…..other criteria……there has to be.

  124. OriginalPouzar says:

    ArmchairGM: He doesn’t have to be signed until June 1, 2020 though. Could they leave him in the O next year instead of burning a year off his ELC, or is he too old? He turns 20 Sept. 21.

    I suppose they could leave him there as an over-ager but that would be a pretty unique circumstance for a player of his draft pedigree and it would likely sour the relationship and I’d have concern about signing him next year and losing his rights.

  125. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar: This is all true.

    Benning takes alot of flack but generally performs very well in the 3rd pairing and has always faltered when asked to play up the lineup – forcing the team to go with Kris Russell as 3RD.

    While, of course, he is available in a trade, the team needs to move away from the premise of “kids should be ready, lets trade the incumbent” and move to the having the kid(s) prove they are ready and then trading the incumbent.

    Don’t get me wrong, with each of Persson, Jones, and Lagesson with real shots to be NHL ready (and Bear could even be thrown in that group), its highly likely that the spot can be filled but there should be competition for it.

    Of course, if Connor Brown is available straight up for Benning, we make that trade, but I’m not forcing Benning out the door unless there is a trade that we can win.

    Russell might not be moveable. So you move Benning for a cheap forward to help create cap space for a #2RD and plan for Sekera and Russell to be on the 3rd pair. Or Sekera on the 2nd pair, and somebody to play with Russell on the 3rd pair.

    Benning has reached his ceiling. If we can make a hockey trade, it is time to move him when a good trade becomes available.

  126. OriginalPouzar says:

    Munny: If the game has slowed down for him the way it did in Junior, we may have a real prospect there.

    Well, he never played junior – came out of the USHL/college system.

    His career trajectory is somewhat following that of Dave Rittich to this point.

    I believe he’s actually leading the AHL in GAA now.

  127. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar: So:

    1) Lucic plays well against Toronto – no credit is due because everyone is watching and its easy to play well when all eyes are on.He should only get credit when noone is watching.

    2) Lucic plays well against Ottawa (“noone watching”) – no credit because its a glorified AHL team.

    Seems like excuses to fit a narrative….

    Lucic will deserve credit from me when his production and contribution is commensurate with his salary.

  128. dustrock says:

    OriginalPouzar: 1) Don’t discount Lagesson and Jones as options on the 3rd pairing. I don’t think that Bouchard should be an option out of camp.He is too important of a prospect to not give him AHL time – this is a d-man, not a forward – few make the jump directly from the CHL to the NHL.We will finally have the depth to not force him in to the NHL lineup and that must be taken advantage of no matter how many stretch passes he makes in the exhibition schedule.

    2) Benning is playing great right now with Sekera as 3RD and he always has very good metrics on the 3rd pairing.2 years running now, we’ve gone in to the season hoping he can play 2RD and he’s failed each time and Kris Russell has proven to be better.I don’t think we can count on Benning being the 2RD – maybe, just maybe, with Sekera as the polished though?

    3) Sekera looking like he may get back to close to previous form should not “allow” the team to trade Nurse, it should “allow” them to trade Russell, in my opinion

    4) Jones has played more right side than left side as a Condor.

    Agree with all of this. But if there is one area we have strength besides our 3 centers we aren’t trading, it’s LHD.

    If you think Lagesson or Jones can be bottom pairing LHD, do you need all of Klefbom/Nurse/Sekera?

    Sekera is the biggest salary hit there and he might have trade value if he continues to play well.

    If you think Jones playing 3RHD is better than Benning playing 3RHD, then you can move Benning, Lagesson can be the rotation in for when Klefbom or Sekera get hurt.

  129. OriginalPouzar says:

    YKOil:
    Benning can only be traded if you get a true #1 or #2 RHD imo.Russell has to be moved out of that #2RHD spot.

    Trade Russell out to free up Cap.Get a true RHD for 1st or 2nd pair.THEN trade Benning and bring up Persson, et al.

    Yup, a real 2RD needs to be a primary objective and it needs to be done in conjunction with a clean disposition of the Russell contract for cap space.

    I am hopeful for a shot term stop gap for 2 years to bridge the gap for some development of Bouchard and Jones – the two that I believe have top 4 potential (in addition to guys like Samorukov who are a little farther away).

  130. OriginalPouzar says:

    OmJo:
    Please for the love of God break up the Nurse-Russell pair.

    Klefbom-Larsson
    Nurse-Sekera
    Russell-Benning

    Or

    Klefbom-Larsson
    Nurse-Benning
    Sekera-Russell

    You first statement is 100% correct. I also think, at this point, the Swedish pairing should be broken up for now as they’ve been struggling just as much.

    Nurse/Larsson
    Klefbom/Sekera
    Russell/Benning

    In conjunction with seeing how Sekera looks on the right side given the likelihood that management will actually be able to find a 2RD for next year is probably low and we should get some information on Reggie.

  131. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: Lucic will deserve credit from me when his production and contribution is commensurate with his salary.

    So, not what you said the other day, but a new position b/c he actually did what you said he needed to do to get credit.

    Got it – I understand the position.

  132. Sierra says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    Sierra,

    And Larsson.

    He’s suggesting trading Larsson

  133. Sierra says:

    Bag of Pucks: My preferences would be to trade Klefbom and Russell. If the drafted 1D is leftie, Larsson stays up. If the pick is a RHD, then Larsson moves down to anchor the 2nd. Ideally Bouchard starts on 3rd pairing when he’s ready.

    I cant speak to specific draft targets as I’m beyond sick of having to look at prospect porn this time of the season.

    So starting the season with a rookie 1RD and 3RD is going to make things better? I have my doubts.

  134. OriginalPouzar says:

    dustrock: Agree with all of this.But if there is one area we have strength besides our 3 centers we aren’t trading, it’s LHD.

    If you think Lagesson or Jones can be bottom pairing LHD, do you need all of Klefbom/Nurse/Sekera?

    Sekera is the biggest salary hit there and he might have trade value if he continues to play well.

    If you think Jones playing 3RHD is better than Benning playing 3RHD, then you can move Benning, Lagesson can be the rotation in for when Klefbom or Sekera get hurt.

    I think that Lagesson and Jones can cover 3LD. I think that Jones could maybe cover 3RD but none of these things have been proven and, as I stated a few minutes ago, the organization needs to stop trading the incumbent on the premise that the kid(s) should be ready and wait for the kid(s) to actually prove it and win a job.

    The left side depth chart is currently:

    Klef
    Nurse
    Sekera
    Russell
    Jones
    Lagesson

    I think the best way forward is to try and make a clean disposition of that Russell contract and acquire a 2 year 2RD stop-gap. I know, easier said than done.

    This would allow Sekera to mentor a kid on that third pairing (if the kid beats out Benning for ice) and that is a much better scenario than Russell mentoring a kid. He may currently be having a negative effect on Nurse. Russell is a serviceable guy for us and he’s been huge over the last few years, however, I don’t think we want younger d-men modelling their games after him:

    Nurse/Larsson
    Klefbom/Stralman
    Sekera (Persson, Jones, Benning, Bear, Lagesson, etc.).

  135. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar: So:

    1) Lucic plays well against Toronto – no credit is due because everyone is watching and its easy to play well when all eyes are on.He should only get credit when noone is watching.

    2) Lucic plays well against Ottawa (“noone watching”) – no credit because its a glorified AHL team.

    Seems like excuses to fit a narrative….

    I think Lucic has played better recently. I don’t think he’s played well. He stickwork is still awful and he gives the puck away multiple times a game with little or no pressure. He has made some nice plays recently, but he’s still ugh.

  136. Bag of Pucks says:

    Sierra: So starting the season with a rookie 1RD and 3RD is going to make things better? I have my doubts.

    I said when he’s ready. I don’t advocate Bouchard starting the season in the dance.

    Anyhoo it seems your primary argument against drafting a potential 1D is handedness? That seems kind of weak.

  137. Bag of Pucks says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    HCs have shelf lives. Hawks were probably starting to tune out Coach Q

  138. Bag of Pucks says:

    Classy move from Leafs fans today

    #TavaresDayTO

  139. Alpine says:

    Bag of Pucks: If a true stud 1D is available when the Oil pick, like an Ekblad, Jones or Doughty, those guys are plug and play. No 3 year waiting period.

    There isn’t one in this draft. Byram and Broberg are good but not that far ahead of someone like Bouchard.

  140. McSorley33 says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    – Next year the team is likely going to be better than this year
    ***************************************************************************
    Heard this line once or twice in the last 10 years….

  141. Gret99zky says:

    Dicky94:
    I wonder if we see some more kids called up if they ever do lose another game in Bakersfield. If the Oilers can win the next two it could get interesting down the stretch. Some reinforcements might help the Oilers. (Yes I still think the Oilers make the playoffs)

    haha

    The odds are 1.4%

    Cue the Jim Carrey meme…

  142. leadfarmer says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Classy move from Leafs fans today

    #TavaresDayTO

    Will see how classy they are in 5 years when Matthews heads home

  143. GP Oiler Fan says:

    ArmchairGM,

    Myers is going to sign in Vancouver, book it. From a very close source.

  144. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bouchard with two first period assists – one on a SH goal and the other on a PP goal.

  145. OriginalPouzar says:

    Maksimov with a 2nd period goal.

  146. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Maksimov with a 2nd period goal.

    Maksimov adds a 2nd second period goal.

  147. Sierra says:

    Bag of Pucks: I said when he’s ready. I don’t advocate Bouchard starting the season in the dance.

    Anyhoo it seems your primary argument against drafting a potential 1D is handedness? That seems kind of weak.

    Where did I say I’m against drafting a 1D. You suggesting I did is pretty weak.

    Like others I’m against your plan to draft a potential 1D AND trade either Klef or Larsson because of shiny new toy and then start that freshly drafted Dman as a 1D next season. It’s a terrible idea and sounds like a typical Oiler move. Trading Larsson would be even worse because of the shit behind him at RD, but again that would be so Oiler because of shiny new toy EB.

  148. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Bouchard with two first period assists – one on a SH goal and the other on a PP goal.

    Bouchard with another assist and a goal – so 1G/3A, still in the second period.

    Samorukov with a second period goal as he continues to produce.

  149. OriginalPouzar says:

    Good night for the college d-men as both Marino and Kemp had assists tonight.

  150. OriginalPouzar says:

    Samorukov’s goal – the tending wasn’t great but real nice move at the blue line and drive:

    https://twitter.com/Storm_City/status/1101659235836821505

  151. OriginalPouzar says:

    No Ethan Bear, again, tonight.

    As an aside, Andrew Hammond in net for Iowa.

  152. OriginalPouzar says:

    Olivier Rodrigue with a tough nice – faced 42 shots and gave up 6 in a 6-1 loss.

  153. OriginalPouzar says:

    Marody, Yamamoto, Joe G. on the PP with Benson and Jones on the point.

    Kailer with a strong rush on the boards and draws a second penalthy – 5 on 3 coming up.

  154. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lots of player movement on the PP, more player movement that puck movement mind you.

  155. OriginalPouzar says:

    A couple nice chances on the PP – both created by Marody – Hammond comes up big – no goals on the early opportunities.

    Now shorthanded – yikes.

  156. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors down 5 on 3 for a lengthy period of time as well and a couple huge blocks by Esposito and they kill it off as well.

  157. OriginalPouzar says:

    Whoa, with the second PP winding down, the Condors take another PP and then while killing off the second 5 on 3, they take yet another penalty and the Wild score on the delay.

    4 straight penalties within a few minutes and Iowa is still on the PP for 110 seconds.

  158. Glass says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    That was just really really bad… the penalties taken were awful too.

  159. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors kill off the rest of the PP and then rush up the ice – drop pass to Day who smashes one off the cross-bar from the top of the circles.

  160. emonkee says:

    Glass,

    Manning one especially…

  161. Glass says:

    emonkee,

    Got away with hacking at a guy’s legs once but still continues to do it until getting caught like wtf lol

  162. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors really starting to take the game over and dominate 5 on 5 – still down one though.

  163. emonkee says:

    Glass,

    Exactly, the refs let it go already but when u repeatedly do it, hard for them to ignore

  164. OriginalPouzar says:

    Marody the best Condor in the first period – he just drew a PIM, won the faceoff, set up a couple of teammates and then dangled around the D to get in all alone (didn’t score) – all within 90 seconds.

    Andrew Hammond is the only reason that Iowa is up 1-0.

    13 saves with a minute left in the first.

  165. OriginalPouzar says:
  166. JimmyV1965 says:

    Alpine: There isn’t one in this draft. Byram and Broberg are good but not that far ahead of someone like Bouchard.

    Broberg looked really good at the Ivan Hlinka

  167. who says:

    JimmyV1965: My point stands. The dman you draft this summer won’t be ready for at least three years and won’t bea number one dman for five years. It really can’t be connected to Nurse trade today. Trading Nurse for a winger is truly shuffling deck chairs. Of course every player can be traded and of course it makes sense if you fleece some team and get way more value than the player you traded, but none of that can be assumed. We need to add good players to the core.Every one of our dmen has warts, but the top three are good players. Trading them doesn’t make sense, unless you fleece someone in a trade, or add something else of value and get a much better player.

    This is bang on.

  168. OriginalPouzar says:

    My goodness, Condors coming in waves 5 on 5 and Andrew Hammond the only reason the Condors aren’t up by a couple.

    Shots 19-6 with 12 to go in the second period.

  169. Glass says:

    If you draft Byram you’d expect him to return to the WHL in his draft+1, get a full season in the AHL draft +2, then have a real strong chance at 3LD for us in his draft +3.

    We’d have the depth to take our time with him.

  170. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors PP letting them down through 2.

    1-0 Iowa but shots are 23-9 Condors.

  171. oilersfan says:

    Are any of you smart hockey fans familiar with Daniel Carr? He has 70 points in 49 games this season.

    He had close to half a ppg for Montreal last season. He was signed by Vegas to a one way deal but has spent this season in The ahl. He is from Sherwood park. Scouting report says his skating is average but shot and hockey sense is very good. Shoots left. I wonder if he could come in and compete for the Ty Rattie complementary skill/ depth position and be signed to a sort of one year 1 million contract that could be buried.

    Scouting report welcome. How is his skating?

    Also, same idea for Brandon Pirrii if Vegas doesn’t re-sign him.

  172. Glass says:

    Iowa really turtling for the W right now. 11:40 left in the 3rd and they still haven’t gotten a shot on net.

    It’d really suck to see the streak be stopped because they ran into a hot goalie.

  173. godot10 says:

    Glass:
    If you draft Byram you’d expect him to return to the WHL in his draft+1, get a full season in the AHL draft +2, then have a real strong chance at 3LD for us in his draft +3.

    We’d have the depth to take our time with him.

    Byram can’t go to the AHL in his draft+2. Too young. He is also a June birthday, which means he will be one of the younger players in the draft. Which makes his stats more impressive.

    Bouchard was one of the older players in his draft. Byram is 21 months younger than Bouchard.

  174. OriginalPouzar says:

    The streak ends at 17 games. I didn’t see the third period but the Condors were not able to tie it up and end up losing 1-0.

    Andrew Hammond was the only reason through 2.

    Back at it tonight against San Jose.

  175. OriginalPouzar says:

    Whoa – 11am start today – that’s an early game.

    Go Oilers!

  176. Kmart99 says:

    When negotiating the next CBA I wonder if players and owners will agree to change buy-out structure in such a way that favours players financially, but favours teams capwise. The primary purpose of imposing the cap was to prevent rich teams from dominating and to create parity, not necessarily to punish fanbases who’s gms overpay for bad players.

    I’d also imagine that certain players might even welcome buyouts if the back end of their deals was much lower than their AAV and they believe they could get more in FA. Not sure this would be the case for Lucic, but the principle still remains.

    The fact that a contract as bad as Lucic’s($/pts) ISN’T worth a buyout seems to defeat the purpose of having the option in the first place to me.

  177. OriginalPouzar says:

    I think what we’ll see is a limitation on high signing bonus/low salary nature of the contracts that leads to the egregious buyout structures.

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