Game 65 2018-19: Oilers at Blue Jackets

In a year with myriad plot twists, the fact this Edmonton Oilers team still has a (very small) chance of making the second season is probably the most outrageous discussion point. Losses in Ohio and New York state over the next 72 hours could put it all to rest, but the team’s recent record (3-1-2 in the last six games) suggests you stay tuned.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. Outstanding offer is here.

  • New Lowetide: The career destination for Oilers phenom Jesse Puljujarvi remains unknown.
  • New Jonathan Willis: Learning from a flawed argument I made about Leon Draisaitl in 2016.
  • Black Dog Pat: How the Oilers can emerge from the Bob Pulford-like era they’re stuck in.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers given harsh lesson by Leafs as playoff hopes on life support.
  • Lowetide: The Oilers’ deadline decisions inform what may come in spring and summer
  • Jonathan Willis: From Mikko Koskinen to Bakersfield, the next two months will reveal a lot about the Oilers
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: After bringing in Sam Gagner and shipping out Cam Talbot, Oilers stand pat on deadline day.
  • Jonathan Willis: Jesse Puljujarvi needs a fresh start, but there’s no reason it can’t be in Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the OHL.
  • Lowetide: Are the 2018-19 Bakersfield Condors the best Edmonton Oilers affiliate ever?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘One of the best hockey games ever’: An oral history of the 2014 women’s Olympic gold-medal game.
  • Lowetide: How can the Oilers successfully sell the new regime to a fan base that is openly angry?
  • Jonathan Willis: Edmonton’s trade for Sam Gagner is a gamble well worth making.
  • Jonathan Willis: Inside the success of the Bakersfield Condors, and what it means for Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Oilers sure have a lot of problems, but there is a simple solution.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Keith Gretzky on the Oilers trade deadline plan, Andrej Sekera’s return and Jesse Puljujarvi’s season
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ potential roster upheaval might set a record for summer activity
  • Lowetide: It’s time for Oilers owner Daryl Katz to stand and deliver a winning organization.
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL free agency period
  • Lowetide: Edmonton’s 2019 entry draft plans may change with new GM but needs are clear
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects, Winter 2018

OILERS AFTER 65

  • Oilers in 2015: 24-34-7, 55 points; goal differential -32
  • Oilers in 2016: 35-22-8, 78 points; goal differential +13
  • Oilers in 2017: 27-34-4, 58 points; goal differential -38
  • Oilers in 2018: 27-30-7, 61 points; goal differential -26

Edmonton has produced eight points in its last six games, a solid performance but not enough to get them back into the race. The Oilers need a 8-2-0 run in the next 10, exactly the run enjoyed by the Arizona Coyotes at this time. We’ll see, in a minute, if that’s reasonable based on the March schedule.

OILERS IN MARCH

  • Oilers in March 2016: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in March 2017: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in March 2018: 0-1-0, zero points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in March 2019:

WHAT TO EXPECT IN MARCH

  • On the road to: Columbus, Buffalo (Expected 0-1-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Vancouver, Toronto, NY Rangers, Minnesota (Expected 2-1-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Arizona, Vegas, St. Louis (Expected: 0-2-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Columbus, Ottawa, Los Angeles, Dallas, Anaheim (Expected: 3-1-1) (Actual)
  • Overall expected result: 5-5-4, 14 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 0-0-0, 0 points in 0 games

If the Oilers match my prediction, the team will end March 2019 with a record of 32-35-11, 75 points in 78 games. We’ll see the playoff hopes snuffed in the month of March. This team is destined to finish remarkably close to the 2017-18 group.

OILERS FORWARDS 5-ON-5 60 LAST 10 GAMES

  • Connor McDavid has battled illness and a two-game suspension during these 10 games, suspect a massive market correction is on the way. You could say the same thing about Leon and the Nuge.
  • Newcomers like Josh Currie, Sam Gagner, and Colby Cave are all having more success than feature players. I wonder if Gagner and Currie move up the depth chart soon, at the expense of names like Kassian and Alex Chiasson.
  • Chiasson (10), Brad Malone (9), Kyle Brodziak (7), Jujhar Khaira and Jesse Puljujarvi (both three games) all played during the latest 10-game stretch but did not post a 5-on-5 point.

DEFENSE, SHOT DIFFERENTIAL, LAST 10

  • I wanted to look specifically at this because it seemed to me possession has improved since Andrej Sekera arrived.
  • The top two pairs are suffering from PDO droughts, but all four men are fairly close to 50 percent in possession. Edmonton is running out of track on this season, but these six men are probably capable of doing enough to get a better group of forwards into the playoffs. That’s my opinion.
  • Mikko Koskinen has appeared in nine games over the last 10, posting a .919 save percentage at 5-on-5.

NHLE’S

  • Evan Bouchard leads the way, there are about six defensemen on this list who are trending well enough to suggest 100 NHL games as a possible future. They won’t all play for the Oilers, Jones and Samorukov have done more for their futures than anyone (Bouchard aside) on the list.
  • Shane Starrett is having a great season, but we don’t know the best goalie on this list. Starrett’s emergence will allow the team to bring Wells and Skinner along at pace.
  • I like all of the forwards but none of them is a lock for a 500-game NHL career.

The Condors lost on Friday night, ending a dream winning streak and a period of weeks where a large group of prospects took one giant leap forward. I would suggest Caleb Jones, Cooper Marody, Tyler Benson and Shane Starrett were the impact players during the run, but in fairness this team really is a team. Not mentioning William Lagesson, Ethan Bear (who has been hurt for much of the run), Joe Gambardella, Josh Currie, Patrick Russell, Logan Day, Ryan Stanton, Keegan Lowe and others does a disservice to the accomplishment. Coach Jay Woodcroft and his staff also deserve a great deal of credit.

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  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Koskinen finishing this season strong is such a big damned deal for this franchise

    His performance in Ottawa was massive for me.

    Up and till that point, he had shown zero ability to be a consistent tender that gives the team a chance to win generally every night (of course, with the odd stinker).

    He had either been hot (his one heater) or cold – very streaky.

    After coming off his long cold streak (like zero games that were good enough in that stretch), he actually put 4 good games together before having a stinker.

    It was essential that he bounced back after that stinker and it didn’t parlay in to a cold streak.

    So far, 4 good games, one stinker and two more good games – that is what this team needs going forward (with, of course, a couple games stolen as well).

  2. flyfish1168 says:

    Just started watching the game. Where is Gagner today? hurt?

  3. Ben says:

    CBJ looks how we often look: inept and discouraged.

    It’s nicer on this side.

  4. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar: I’ve never called Nurse elite.I’ve never called him a number 1 d-man.

    I’ve solely stated this his 5 on 5 offensive production has now been top 30 over a sample size that cannot be discounted.

    And I’m saying that we talk about defensemen cannibalizing points from offense they don’t create
    Nurse is one of those players
    He’s a top 4 dman that will be a 30 point player
    People expecting the extrapolation of 58 point seasons will be disappointed unless he takes drastic steps in improving his passing
    That is all

  5. Bag of Pucks says:

    Guy Lafleur for Guy Lapointe was simply a fun play on words for me (2 GLs) as a metaphor for Chia trading an elite offensive winger for a stay at home defencemen.

    And you old bastards immediately tear those comps to pieces and put them under a microscope,

    This place is the best hot stove ever 😁

  6. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    That is pretty much what goalies do

  7. Chris says:

    Are you allowed to say ‘taking it up the backside’ on tv? Just asking.

  8. jp says:

    Jenner protesting a bit lol

  9. Numenius says:

    Chris: Very well timed post me thinks.

    Hey, thanks.

    At least that Nurse penalty wasn’t at a particularly bad time.

  10. Bryan says:

    Munny: Lol… I was waiting for this.

    Yeah I was going to chime in on that if someone didn’t.

  11. Ben says:

    Chris:
    Are you allowed to say ‘taking it up the backside’ on tv? Just asking.

    Only if it’s Pierre Maguire interviewing a Boy Scout troupe at the Vatican.

  12. Reja says:

    Nit64: It really takes the wind out of the goat herders when they realize 31 GMs would take that contract in a heartbeat

    Everyone talks about not seeing Connor showcased in the playoffs no love for Leon. I thick when he’s rolling he would Dominant a playoff series like few others would.

  13. Andy Dufresne says:

    Numenius: Despite this good news, I’ve been having concerns about Nurse lately.

    He seems to take penalties exactly at the worsttimes — right at the point that is most demoralizing for the team, often leading to a turning point in the game. Usually it’s because he’s overly aggressive defending, which if he were defending better he wouldn’t have to be doing.

    Larsson is aggressive in defending, too, but knows where the line is much better, and so doesn’t take so many penalties.

    Am I the only one seeing this?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Larsson by far the better Defenseman IMO.

    However I like Nurses progress this season.

    Bridged him and said show us what you can do offensively.

    Dmen get paid for points

    Nurse has taken a big step forward offensively. And has the ability to be a very good dman in the d zone as well. He is still learning and is on a good trajectory. IMO

    Larsson is a STUD.

  14. OriginalPouzar says:

    leadfarmer:
    OriginalPouzar,

    That is pretty much what goalies do

    This goalie has not done that until now

  15. Chris says:

    Ben: Only if it’s Pierre Maguire interviewing a Boy Scout troupe at the Vatican.

    Someone should tell that to Drew Remenda.

  16. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar: This goalie has not done that until now

    He ran hot and got paid. Then ran cold. That is exactly what he’s done

  17. Andy Dufresne says:

    Reja: Everyone talks about not seeing Connor showcased in the playoffs no love for Leon. I thick when he’s rolling he would Dominant a playoff series like few others would.

    Leon was dominant in the 2016-17 playoffs

  18. OriginalPouzar says:

    Is Josh Currie the Pisani LT has been searching for??????

  19. Chris says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Is Josh Currie the Pisani LT has been searching for??????

    I think you’re on to something there.

  20. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar: His performance in Ottawa was massive for me.

    Up and till that point, he had shown zero ability to be a consistent tender that gives the team a chance to win generally every night (of course, with the odd stinker).

    He had either been hot (his one heater) or cold – very streaky.

    After coming off his long cold streak (like zero games that were good enough in that stretch), he actually put 4 good games together before having a stinker.

    It was essential that he bounced back after that stinker and it didn’t parlay in to a cold streak.

    So far, 4 good games, one stinker and two more good games – that is what this team needs going forward (with, of course, a couple games stolen as well).

    You are wrong on this one. IMO. A goalie is only as good as the team in fornt of him.

    Everything you say/said about Mikko applies 100% to the team play over that period.

  21. OriginalPouzar says:

    leadfarmer: He ran hot and got paid.Then ran cold.That is exactly what he’s done

    Yes, that has been the issue.

    What he is doing now, granted its only been 7 games, is providing consistent tending.

    The fact that he had a shit game and then bounced back with two good games is huge to me – it shows that it may not be just a hot streak but maybe a goalie finding his game.

    They key is to find out that this is not a hot streak, hopefully, and a poor game and a bounce back is evidence of that.

  22. Gerta Rauss says:

    The best part of today is Torterella is going to go all angry dad in the post game presser

    Nice win today

  23. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar: Yes, that has been the issue.

    What he is doing now, granted its only been 7 games, is providing consistent tending.

    The fact that he had a shit game and then bounced back with two good games is huge to me – it shows that it may not be just a hot streak but maybe a goalie finding his game.

    They key is to find out that this is not a hot streak, hopefully, and a poor game and a bounce back is evidence of that.

    The Oilers played LIKE SHIT during that 11 game losing streak…..so theres that,

    You could have swapped goalies with the competition in all 11 of those games and the Oilers would still have lost all 11 games.

  24. Munny says:

    Nice win. Shutout. Shift of the year. Should’ve PVRed this puppy

  25. Halfwise says:

    OriginalPouzar: Yes, that has been the issue.

    What he is doing now, granted its only been 7 games, is providing consistent tending.

    The fact that he had a shit game and then bounced back with two good games is huge to me – it shows that it may not be just a hot streak but maybe a goalie finding his game.

    They key is to find out that this is not a hot streak, hopefully, and a poor game and a bounce back is evidence of that.

    This discussion reminds me of that old golf saying. “Bad shots come in threes. If you have a fourth bad shot, it’s just the start of another set of three.”

    Random gonna random.

  26. Bryan says:

    Chris: I think you’re on to something there.

    I think Colby Cabe is a better comp.

  27. Admiral Ackbar says:

    Josh really Currie’d the team today 🙂

  28. Reja says:

    Andy Dufresne: Leon was dominant in the 2016-17 playoffs

    He sure was but a lot folks thought he was overpaid and jump all over him when he has a few bad games. I’ll take Leon top 5 in the league for a playoff pick.

  29. Maoriduvpoojt says:

    godot10: Who has ever said that Nurse is a #1D?No one.The people who want to run him out of town are using the strawman that he is not a #1D.

    Same strawman they used against Petry.

    Who is running Nurse out of town?

  30. Dicky94 says:

    Still a chance!

  31. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Is Josh Currie the Pisani LT has been searching for??????

    Italian Currie? Spicy!

  32. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar: Yes, that has been the issue.

    What he is doing now, granted its only been 7 games, is providing consistent tending.

    The fact that he had a shit game and then bounced back with two good games is huge to me – it shows that it may not be just a hot streak but maybe a goalie finding his game.

    They key is to find out that this is not a hot streak, hopefully, and a poor game and a bounce back is evidence of that.

    Yeah it’s hard to know how much is crappy defense how much is on the goalie but I like to see a quality start percentage of great than the 0.457 he has. (I find it useful because some nights you just get drilled as a goalie and if your coach leaves you in for 8ga well it lowers everything else like sp and GSAA)
    Hard to be a good confident goalie in front of a rotten bunch.

  33. Andy Dufresne says:

    Reja: He sure was but a lot folks thought he was overpaid and jump all over him when he has a few bad games. I’ll take Leon top 5 in the league for a playoff pick.

    +1

  34. godot10 says:

    Maoriduvpoojt: Who is running Nurse out of town?

    This isn’t our first rodeo.

  35. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Is Josh Currie the Pisani LT has been searching for??????

    You called this one!

    You said he was capable. You told them to play him with skill.

    You were correct……well called! (small sample size nothwithstanding)

    Edit: You are my goto resource for EVERYTHING Condors!

  36. leadfarmer says:

    Maoriduvpoojt: Who is running Nurse out of town?

    I guess saying my expectations of Nurse is 30 point 23 min a night dman going forward is running him out of town.
    Since I don’t believe the extrapolated value of 58 points is a legitimate forecast of his skills I guess I’m running him out of town
    Le Sigh

  37. Andy Dufresne says:

    leadfarmer: Yeah it’s hard to know how much is crappy defense how much is on the goalie but I like to see a quality start percentage of great than the 0.457 he has. (I find it useful because some nights you just get drilled as a goalie and if your coach leaves you in for 8ga well it lowers everything else like sp and GSAA)
    Hard to be a good confident goalie in front of a rotten bunch.

    +1000

  38. Andy Dufresne says:

    Halfwise: This discussion reminds me of that old golf saying. “Bad shots come in threes. If you have a fourth bad shot, it’s just the start of another set of three.”

    Random gonna random.

    AWESOME quote. Thanks.

    I can attest to the truthiness of the quote.

  39. Andy Dufresne says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    The best part of today is Torterella is going to go all angry dad in the post game presser

    Nice win today

    RIGHT!

    Grab the porpcorn and wait for it!

    Best post game interviews Torts after a bad loss and Ilya Bryzgalov……”Why you hef to be so med??” I miss Bryz…

  40. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Is Josh Currie the Pisani LT has been searching for??????

    He seems to have the hands and he goes to the right areas.

  41. Rebillled says:

    5 points out.

  42. Ben says:

    Rebillled:
    5 points out.

    Thanks for pointing that out.

  43. Rebillled says:

    Ben,

    Point taken.

  44. Andy Dufresne says:

    Mikko Koskinen has appeared in nine games over the last 10, posting a .919 save percentage at 5-on-5

    And thats without todays 30 save shoutout.

    This guy is the tonic for what ails us….Miiiiiiiiiikolaaaaaa

    Edit: ahhhh shit…..my giant swiss horn just knocked over a lamp

  45. Lucic n Chong says:

    Is the pressure in Edmonton so bad when they finally let it go they play like this?

    Tortorella. Done. Did his team not know they had a do or die game tonight errrrrre.
    Let’s wait to see who overpays Bobrovsky…ok we waited. Panthers.
    Jarmo will have some serious egg on his face if this continues. The scrambled variety.

    Full credit to Koskinen, thought he looked like Bambi in the 1st, then solid. That one off the bar might’ve changed it.

    I can tell you one thing, this smile is from ear to ear right now. Good win fellas.

  46. Andy Dufresne says:

    Mikko post game comments:

    “Team was ready right from the start”

    Q: How do you like (the workload) basically playing every game (as the Starter)

    A: “It’s Fun”

  47. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar: If its over $1.25M – $1.5M or over 2 years then management needs to walk.

    He is a solid NHL player, a middle six player, however, he is not the type of player to commit term too.

    I guess I can justify up to $1.75M on a one-year term but that looks pretty high.

    That’s the ask I think he’ll settle between your numbers.Looks like he’ll at least pot 20 goals and he wasn’t in the line up till game seven. What’s the worth for a 28 year-old PTO that scores 20 plus which is a career high for them.

  48. oilsnc79 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I only saw the first two periods of the Condors’ game last night and Andrew Hammond was the only reason the Condors didn’t have a multiple goal lead.

    Too bad the streak ended but they played a solid team game, yet again.They only gave up 16 shots for crying out loud.

    Back at it tonight – start of a home and home with San Jose who they battle with for first spot in the Pacific.

    Go Condors!

  49. leadfarmer says:

    This team is going to go on a run the rest of the way which I’m worried about because a purge of the brain trust is needed
    Except for the last week of season our schedule is fairly easy other than Toronto St. Louis

  50. Andy Dufresne says:

    Mikko with shutout, Leon with his 40th goal, Conner 3pt night, Kass scores an offside goal and it counts. Chaisson tosses the monkey off his back…ALL in an 11am Matinee?!?!?! ..that’s it…..the Reverse Nadir!

    We scrammbled the letters in Tabernac and got Cabernet!

  51. Westchester Oil says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    The best part of today is Torterella is going to go all angry dad in the post game presser

    Nice win today

    What happens if the Jackets miss the playoffs after loading up at the deadline? Fire the GM? Fire Torts?

    I think John Shannon said they only have 2 draft picks next year. Big gamble they’ve made and so far Duchene, Dzingel, etc haven’t done much.

  52. Andy Dufresne says:

    Westchester Oil: What happens if the Jackets miss the playoffs after loading up at the deadline? Fire the GM? Fire Torts?

    I think John Shannon said they only have 2 draft picks next year. Big gamble they’ve made and so far Duchene, Dzingel, etc haven’t done much.

    2 picks in 2019 and only 12 picks total in the next 3 years.

  53. Maoriduvpoojt says:

    leadfarmer: I guess saying my expectations of Nurse is 30 point 23 min a night dman going forward is running him out of town.
    Since I don’t believe the extrapolated value of 58 points is a legitimate forecast of his skills I guess I’m running him out of town
    Le Sigh

    How DARE you, lol.

  54. Andy Dufresne says:

    Old News

    Friedman:

    ” There was some Zack Kassian action in Edmonton. Nashville apparently checked in before acquiring Brian Boyle. The Oilers wanted to keep him.”

    “Edmonton announced Thursday that Jesse Puljujarvi is out for the season due to upcoming hip surgery. That explains why GM Keith Gretzky said it was much more likely the winger be traded during the summer as opposed to the deadline. It will be interesting to see, though, if the Oilers try to package him with a contract they wish to move.”

    “The Maple Leafs….They did not want to deal Connor Brown for a rental, and discussed a Brown-for-Matt Benning swap with Edmonton. (Brian Burke thinks Jujhar Khaira came up between the two teams as well.) I had multiple denials on the Adam Larsson rumours. I suspect, though, the Maple Leafs attempted something bigger we haven’t figured out yet.”

  55. Mr DeBakey says:

    godot10: Who has ever said that Nurse is a #1D?No one.The people who want to run him out of town are using the strawman that he is not a #1D.

    Same strawman they used against Petry.

    And Tom Gilbert; You remember him, Teddy Peckman’s D partner

  56. Maoriduvpoojt says:

    Andy Dufresne: RIGHT!

    Grab the porpcorn and wait for it!

    Best post game interviews Torts after a bad loss and Ilya Bryzgalov……”Why you hef to be so med??”I miss Bryz…

    Like this one, lol:

    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/john-tortorella-press-conference-blue-jackets-1.5033295

  57. Rube Foster says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Guy Lafleur for Guy Lapointe was simply a fun play on words for me (2 GLs) as a metaphor for Chia trading an elite offensive winger for a stay at home defencemen.

    And you old bastards immediately tear those comps to pieces and put them under a microscope,

    This place is the best hot stove ever

    Gotta keep you young fellas honest…

    By the way, did I ever tell you about that time I saw Barbara Ann Scott dance the Charleston with Howie Meeker? The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time…

  58. Oilin4 says:

    Admiral Ackbar:
    4-0? This is unexpected.

    Is it the Currie-effect? That good mojo from Bakersfield?

    They should sign him 8 years x $7mil/per – he could be a 30 goal-scorer. Potentially.

    Also better cave to his NMC demands.

  59. Oilin4 says:

    Admiral Ackbar:
    Josh really Currie’d the team today

    A bit early to start the day drinking no?

  60. OriginalPouzar says:

    Andy Dufresne: The Oilers played LIKE SHITduring that 11 game losing streak…..so theres that,

    You could have swapped goalies with the competition in all 11 of those games and the Oilers would still have lost all 11 games.

    Koskinen was a very big part of that – there wasn’t a single game in over 2 months where he provided “good enough” tending – leaking weak goals consistently – at bad times.

    It just wasn’t good enough, night after night after night.

    Hey, I’m trying to give the guy some kudos and provide some optimism that may he is finding some consistency at the NHL level.

    A bounce-back with two good games after a bad game is not something we had seen from him at all this year prior to Ottawa

  61. Munny says:

    Andy Dufresne: We scrambled the letters in Tabernac and got Cabernet!

    Ha!

    (even if doesn’t actually work still, “Ha!”)

  62. SkatinginSand says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Guy Lapointe is a Hall of Fame defenceman who had 622 points in his career, and still hold the Habs record for goals by a defenceman in a season with 28. Although his defense was also elite, he was not a “stay at home defenceman.” As much as I like Larsson, there is no comparison between him and LaPointe.

  63. Reja says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Mikko Koskinen has appeared in nine games over the last 10, posting a .919 save percentage at 5-on-5

    And thats without todays 30 save shoutout.

    This guy is the tonic for what ails us….Miiiiiiiiiikolaaaaaa

    Edit: ahhhh shit…..my giant swiss horn just knocked over a lamp

    Hope he gets a fair chance before they run him out of town he could be a kipper for us yet.

  64. Reja says:

    How many points does Leon rack up with two crackerjack wingers on a different team and what’s his salary?

  65. dustrock says:

    Oilin4: A bit early to start the day drinking no?

    Lad it’s – 80C again it’s never too early

  66. oilersfan says:

    Oilers are 4-1-2 with Sekera in the lineup

    This is no coincidence

  67. Pouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Is Josh Currie the Pisani LT has been searching for??????

    Vaughn Woodruff

    @conkanen
    Jan 20
    More
    Replying to @Condors @joshcurrie19
    Right shot Pisani.

    Smart guy.

  68. OriginalPouzar says:

    Sekera has been a massive addition – some predicted as much.

    He’s only playing 3rd pairing minutes but, even in doing so, he (a) makes Matt Benning better and (b) bumps a lesser player out of the lineup (Manning/Gravel).

    His mobility looks just fine to me and that is the main thing to see.

    Also, lets not forget, he’s playing well despite (a) barely playing in 2 years, (b) having zero training camp and (c) coming in 2/3 through the season when everyone else is game ready.

    He will be that much better next season after a full training camp (and 6 months further removed from all injuries).

  69. OriginalPouzar says:

    Pouzar: Vaughn Woodruff

    @conkanenJan 20
    More
    Replying to @Condors @joshcurrie19
    Right shot Pisani.

    Smart guy.

    Full kudos to you on that.

  70. Woogie63 says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Great fun being here

  71. Oddspell says:

    oilersfan:
    Oilers are 4-1-2 with Sekera in the lineup

    This is no coincidence

    That pace over the rest of the year (not saying it happens) puts us in the wild card conversation.

    If (very big if) the next three nights shake out, we could see ourselves 3 points out. Don’t start believing, but the team taking the ice right now is too good to finish bottom 7. May as well cheer for wins.

  72. deardylan says:

    Man i wish y’all would be this funny win or lose. I am LOLLED out baby!!

  73. Buddy says:

    Andy Dufresne:

    This guy is the tonic for what ails us….Miiiiiiiiiikolaaaaaa

    Edit: ahhhh shit…..my giant swiss horn just knocked over a lamp

    Maybe a bit too much personal detail for this site, but still, impressive.

  74. Andy Dufresne says:

    Buddy: Maybe a bit too much personal detail for this site, but still, impressive.

    lol Awesome. You took borderline funny and made it genuinely funny.

    #humouriscontagious

  75. Woogie63 says:

    godot10: This isn’t our first rodeo.

    ROT Club … Run out of Town

  76. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar: Koskinen was a very big part of that – there wasn’t a single game in over 2 months where he provided “good enough” tending – leaking weak goals consistently – at bad times.

    It just wasn’t good enough, night after night after night.

    Hey, I’m trying to give the guy some kudos and provide some optimism that may he is finding some consistency at the NHL level.

    A bounce-back with two good games after a bad game is not something we had seen from him at all this year prior to Ottawa

    I can see you are trying and I thank you for that. You are very balanced in your analysis. It (your ability to remain fair and impartial) makes you what I call a “thought leader” IMO. LT is one as well. I respect and appreciate that.

    We just have a different opinion on the losing streak.. you hold Koskinen repsonsible and I dont..and thats ok.

    Youre allowed to be wrong every once in awhile….Haha. 🙂

    So much to enjoy about todays performance. Including your posts. Keep up the good work.

    Youre comin around on Koskinen….one day soon, you’ll overcome your distaste for how he got here and admit it…”You like him….you Really Like Him” 🙂

  77. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Sekera has been a massive addition – some predicted as much.

    He’s only playing 3rd pairing minutes but, even in doing so, he (a) makes Matt Benning better and (b) bumps a lesser player out of the lineup (Manning/Gravel).

    His mobility looks just fine to me and that is the main thing to see.

    Also, lets not forget, he’s playing well despite (a) barely playing in 2 years, (b) having zero training camp and (c) coming in 2/3 through the season when everyone else is game ready.

    He will be that much better next season after a full training camp (and 6 months further removed from all injuries).

    ALSO I cant wait until they unleash him in 3 on 3 Overtime. Someone send Hitch the tapes please, he may not have ever seen it.

  78. Andy Dufresne says:

    Munny: Ha!

    (even if doesn’t actually work still, “Ha!”)

    True Dat.

    I thought someone would reply in an anal way with the “a”s and the “e”s dont add up.

    GOOD ON YOU to laugh through the imperfection!

  79. Gerta Rauss says:

    Buddy: Maybe a bit too much personal detail for this site, but still, impressive.

    lol

  80. Gerta Rauss says:

    Tortorella post game lol…he said nothing about the game, nothing

    https://www.nhl.com/bluejackets/video/postgame-john-tortorella/t-277437100/c-66508803

  81. Andy Dufresne says:

    Reja:
    How many points does Leon rack up with two crackerjack wingers on a different team and what’s his salary?

    More that John Tavares on both counts IMO. Maybe more than Auston Matthews.

    He’s outperforming both of them this season without the crackerjacks. (of course he occasionally gets to play with the prize…uh mcprize)

  82. Andy Dufresne says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Thank you for that.

    Torts is “evolving”…..of course what we didnt see is he went back to his office locked the door and trashed the place. 🙂

    Then proceeded to the Hospital to get stitches in his tongue and lip. (you know from biting down so hard during the presser)

  83. Andy Dufresne says:

    deardylan:
    Man i wish y’all would be this funny win or lose. I am LOLLED out baby!!

    We needed it Dylan, Hell we deserved it…..and so early in the weekend.

    #lolledoutbaby

  84. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bouchad with his point streak stopped at 12 games.

  85. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Agreed.

    I think the key takeaway is that, he’s only playing 3rd pairing minutes… for now. Rej’s ice time has been slowly but steadily increasing since his return. Luckily Benning has been able to absorb the increase in shifts in stride.

    The improved play of Sekera on a game over game basis gives the coaches plenty of leeway with in-game matchup decisions based on opponents and who’s playing well at the time. Even if they don’t shake up the pairings (would personally advise) there’s a chance to divvy up the minutes more equitably based on the opponent and help shelter those who are playing too much/too high up and struggling as a result.

    A healthy Sekera is a big damned deal to this team.

    How has he played with Klefbom, if at all?

  86. oilersfan says:

    Has anybody ever seen local product Daniel Carr play? 70 points in 49 ahl games this year.

    Half a point per game in the nhl last year with the habs.

    Is he worth being signed?

  87. Glovjuice says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Oilers are built ( in so much as they are built at all) to play playoff style hockey. Where it can help to have a combonation of physicality, speed and skill. Remember Leon and Kass and Larsson and Klefbom in 2016-17 playoffs?

    It is the time of the year where teams step up there physical play and the refs let more things go.

    Leon is on another level.

    Kass is looking great (small sample size) on that top line.

    Lucic is earning about 2.5 to 3 million of his contract…which is all the we can hope for at this point.

    Chaisson is value at $650k.

    Gagner is un upgade over Spooner.

    Reider, Rattie, Currie,Cave providing speed on the forecheck.

    Koskinen is a top 15 goalie when the team plays the right way in front of him. (14 to 20 at least)

    I thought this team was 5 players away from contending for the playoffs (next year). Maybe only 2 or 3?

    Would need to see this type of performance in 80% of the games to close out the season in order solidify the things mentioned above but looking pretty encouraging right about now

    Hilarious post.

  88. Glovjuice says:

    Reja: Leon is built for the playoffs it’s to bad it doesn’t look like it’s gonna happen this spring.The Leon is lazy trolls are pretty quiet these days they’re scrambling to find a new whipping boy to run out of town.

    I’m here. Leon has been on fire since the playoffs have been basically out of reach.

  89. OriginalPouzar says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Agreed.

    I think the key takeaway is that, he’s only playing 3rd pairing minutes… for now.Rej’s ice time has been slowly but steadily increasing since his return.Luckily Benning has been able to absorb the increase in shifts in stride.

    The improved play of Sekera on a game over game basis gives the coaches plenty of leeway with in-game matchup decisions based on opponents and who’s playing well at the time.Even if they don’t shake up the pairings (would personally advise) there’s a chance to divvy up the minutes more equitably based on the opponent and help shelter those who are playing too much/too high up and struggling as a result.

    A healthy Sekera is a big damned deal to this team.

    How has he played with Klefbom, if at all?

    It is a big damned deal.

    I now have very little hesitation that he will be able to handle 2nd pairing minutes as he has always been able to. The potential issue was how his mobility was going to be and, as we’ve seen, if its limited vis-a-vis his per-injury abilities, its negligible (at least to my untrained eye). Given the foregoing, I don’t see any reason that he won’t be back to the regular Reggie next fall after another full summer of training and, importantly, a full training camp. O have the luxury of having that player on the 3rd pairing to help shine Benning and/or mentor a rookie – that is great. Of course, also great to have him to move up the lineup when injuries do hit.

    I’m not sure he’s every really played with Klefbom – I only recall Reggie on the right side playing with Nurse – with poor results (although Nurse was a raw rookie and they were playing 1st pairing minutes)

  90. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – I don’t think anyone argues that koski got too much term.

    – But he’s been an absolute stud the last 2 games.

    – Yet he let in in a few goals when team was overwhelmed against the Laughs.

    – and the msm was all about this anchor and how brutal his glove is

    – Yet we can’t have one article that over reactes on the other side and says Koskis is a beast and a steal

    – He is for sure not awful and for sure not tretiak. But when he lets in a lot of stinkers when the team sucks we hammer him. Yet no one says he’s a stud when he plays like a beast

    – Koski is a beast. Full Stop That’s dumb to say. But imagine if we believed that. Just like saying the end is nigh when he sucks on the same night the team sucks

    – Koski is not the problem. He’s better than Talbot. If our D is fine next year he won’t give the first shot goals and he’s fine. Except the term which isn’t on him.

  91. Glovjuice says:

    Reja: Leon is built for the playoffs it’s to bad it doesn’t look like it’s gonna happen this spring.The Leon is lazy trolls are pretty quiet these days they’re scrambling to find a new whipping boy to run out of town.

    I’m here. Leon has been on fire since the playoffs have been basically out of reach.

    OriginalPouzar: With McDavid, without McDavid, it doesn’t matter – given all he does on the ice, including faceoffs, PK and now, plus level defensive zone play, he is establishing himself as a top 10 forward in the NHL right now.

    I rag and rag and rag on Hitchock, however, if he truly is to be credited with the improvement in Drai’s 200-foot game that we’ve seen over the last month then, well, great work Hitch and your 2/3 of a season will be well served.

    His effort in the D zone has taken a 180 over the last month (and all here must plainly see it) but posters here fail to account for that in their repeated cracks at the community members here who rightly called an 8.5 million player for lazy defensive play exhibited during much of this season.

  92. Side says:

    Glovjuice,

    Brutal post.

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar: It is a big damned deal.

    I now have very little hesitation that he will be able to handle 2nd pairing minutes as he has always been able to.The potential issue was how his mobility was going to be and, as we’ve seen, if its limited vis-a-vis his per-injury abilities, its negligible (at least to my untrained eye). Given the foregoing, I don’t see any reason that he won’t be back to the regular Reggie next fall after another full summer of training and, importantly, a full training camp.O have the luxury of having that player on the 3rd pairing to help shine Benning and/or mentor a rookie – that is great.Of course, also great to have him to move up the lineup when injuries do hit.

    I’m not sure he’s every really played with Klefbom – I only recall Reggie on the right side playing with Nurse – with poor results (although Nurse was a raw rookie and they were playing 1st pairing minutes)

    Just checked, over the last 3 seasons, Nurse and Klef have been on the ice together at 5 on 5 for 26 minutes so, essentially just line change time.

  94. OriginalPouzar says:

    oilersfan:
    Has anybody ever seen local product Daniel Carr play? 70 points in 49 ahl games this year.

    Half a point per game in the nhl last year with the habs.

    Is he worth being signed?

    Given he’ll be 28 a month in to next season, I don’t put a ton in to his huge AHL season – he’s been a PPG over the his last few partial AHL seasons but this year is a massive spike and I think its a one off.

    He’d be a PTO type guy I would think and likely a Brad Malone replacement in the Bake (more offensive though, obviously).

    Oh, I should say, I’m just going off stats – never seen him play.

  95. Glovjuice says:

    Reja: Leon is built for the playoffs it’s to bad it doesn’t look like it’s gonna happen this spring.The Leon is lazy trolls are pretty quiet these days they’re scrambling to find a new whipping boy to run out of town.

    I’m here. Leon has been on fire since the playoffs have been basically out of reach.

    OriginalPouzar: With McDavid, without McDavid, it doesn’t matter – given all he does on the ice, including faceoffs, PK and now, plus level defensive zone play, he is establishing himself as a top 10 forward in the NHL right now.

    I rag and rag and rag on Hitchock, however, if he truly is to be credited with the improvement in Drai’s 200-foot game that we’ve seen over the last month then, well, great work Hitch and your 2/3 of a season will be well served.

    His effort in the D zone has taken a 180 over the last month (and all here must plainly see it) but posters here fail to account for that in their repeated cracks at the community members here who rightly called an 8.5 million player for lazy defensive play exhibited during much of this season.

    Andy Dufresne:
    “OriginalPouzar: I rag and rag and rag on Hitchock, however, if he truly is to be credited with the improvement in Drai’s 200-foot game that we’ve seen over the last month then, well, great work Hitch and your 2/3 of a season will be well served.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The great players elevate their games precisely at this time of the year.

    It may be Hitch, if so credit to him. It may just be Leon doing what great players do.

    LOL, this time of year ! The playoffs are gone. There is no this time of year. Wow.

  96. OriginalPouzar says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – I don’t think anyone argues that koski got too much term.

    – But he’s been an absolute stud the last 2 games.

    – Yet he let in in a few goals when team was overwhelmed against the Laughs.

    – and the msm was all about this anchor and how brutal his glove is

    – Yet we can’t have one article that over reactes on the other side and says Koskis is a beast and a steal

    – He is for sure not awful and for sure not tretiak. But when he lets in a lot of stinkers when the team sucks we hammer him. Yet no one says he’s a stud when he plays like a beast

    – Koski is a beast. Full Stop That’s dumb to say.But imagine if we believed that.Just like saying the end is nigh when he sucks on the same night the team sucks

    – Koski is not the problem. He’s better than Talbot. If our D is fine next year he won’t give the first shot goals and he’s fine. Except the term which isn’t on him.

    I have given the man plenty of kudos over the last 48 hours and plenty in this thread.

    At the same time, we cannot discount that he was simply not good enough for a stretch of games that went over 2 months – not one good enough game in there.

    We are still trying to find out if he is finding his game and, importantly, consistency, or if this is another heater and he will continue to be hot, cold, hot, cold, indefinitely – we can’t have a starter that runs hot/cold – we need consistency.

    I’m hopeful, given the bounce back from his one bad game, that he’s finding his game and some consistency.

    We’ll know more in 6 weeks.

  97. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    – I too believe this. – with a healthy D I think they are a better playoff team than regular season

    – But I’m cheering for Tampa: if they win its game over for the old school. They win 5-4. Not 2-1. F&ck Hitch and his philosophy.

  98. Reja says:

    Glovjuice: I’m here. Leon has been on fire since the playoffs have been basically out of reach.

    Are you saying Leon that I believe hasn’t even hit his prime is only good at garbage time?

  99. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    – totally disagree. You should know better. These games mean less than next years training camp to project next years performance.

    – Koski is who he is – you cite his poor play yet you ignore that he didn’t have 6 D behind him. And when he was good team was when team was healthiest. Koskis played fine when the team was playing fine. He’s a passenger not a driver. That’s not an insult and that’s most starting goalies.

    – Talbot looked great in pre season. Koski was awful

  100. Reja says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – I don’t think anyone argues that koski got too much term.

    – But he’s been an absolute stud the last 2 games.

    – Yet he let in in a few goals when team was overwhelmed against the Laughs.

    – and the msm was all about this anchor and how brutal his glove is

    – Yet we can’t have one article that over reactes on the other side and says Koskis is a beast and a steal

    – He is for sure not awful and for sure not tretiak. But when he lets in a lot of stinkers when the team sucks we hammer him. Yet no one says he’s a stud when he plays like a beast

    – Koski is a beast. Full Stop That’s dumb to say.But imagine if we believed that.Just like saying the end is nigh when he sucks on the same night the team sucks

    – Koski is not the problem. He’s better than Talbot. If our D is fine next year he won’t give the first shot goals and he’s fine. Except the term which isn’t on him.

    Never seen a goalie that big so flexible if he works on his weaknesses which I think are because of the smaller ice service he could turn into a top 10 in the league. Plus he doesn’t have two screaming twins waking him up all the time lol

  101. pts2pndr says:

    Glovjuice: I’m here. Leon has been on fire since the playoffs have been basically out of reach.

    His effort in the D zone has taken a 180 over the last month (and all here must plainly see it) but posters here fail to account for that in their repeated cracks at the community members here who rightly called an 8.5 million player for lazy defensive play exhibited during much of this season.

    LOL, this time of year ! The playoffs are gone. There is no this time of year. Wow.

    When you are wrong as you were in calling out Draisaitl it would be wise to just own it! You would come out classier than trying to defend or deflect! Old saying when you find yourself in a hole stop digging!😉

  102. striatic says:

    With everything that’s happened this season, Mikko Koskinen has the 9th best SV% among goaltenders who have played 40 games or more. This is middle of the pack, but still outperforming players like Fleury, Holtby and Hellebuyck. The Oilers shouldn’t bank on Koskinen being the second coming, and perhaps his contract is a bit rich, but by all appearances he is a perfectly fine NHL goalie. If the Oilers can’t win with Koskinen in net, it isn’t going to be on Koskinen’s head.

  103. dustrock says:

    Bouchard didn’t have the point as OP indicated but there’s a tweet I think by Steve Kournianos (The Draft Analyst) where he shows Bouchard’s stunning vision from today. But of a scramble, he’s on the left side of the ice and finds a forward for what surely would be an NHL goal.

    Bouchard is the kind of guy who is only going to look better with pro players.

    I remember commenting back in the day when Klefbom was playing on a rough Oklahoma team that he might actually show better in the bigs playing with more skill and less chaos.

  104. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Reja: Never seen a goalie that big so flexible if he works on his weaknesses which I think are because of the smaller ice service he could turn into a top 10 in the league. Plus he doesn’t have two screaming twins waking him up all the time lol

    – yeah why can’t we have more articles about his upside and his attributes that could make him him a stud how he works hard he’s well liked overcame adversity and the heart and self belief that makes him potentially awesome

  105. Reja says:

    pts2pndr: When you are wrong as you were in calling out Draisaitlit would be wise to just own it! You would come out classier than trying to defend or deflect! Old saying when you find yourself in a hole stop digging!

    A real man in the old days admitted when he was wrong.

  106. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    12-5, Playoffs?:

    BUF W
    VAN W
    TOR L
    NYR W
    NJD W
    ARI W
    VGK L
    STL W
    CBJ W
    OTT W
    LOS W
    DAL L
    ANA W
    COL W
    SJS L
    CAL W

    65 28 30 7 63
    82 40 35 7 87

  107. OriginalPouzar says:

    Big back to back against the SJ Baracuda starting now!

    Ethan Bear is back in the lineup for the Condors – Manning sitting.

    Starrett starts in back to back nights!

    Go Condors!

  108. Lowetide says:

    Ethan Bear in tonight’s lineup.

  109. Reja says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – yeah why can’t we have more articles about his upside and his attributes that could make him him a stud how he works hard he’s well liked overcame adversity and the heart and self belief that makes him potentially awesome

    Because there is a whole sector of fairweather fans that enjoy running players out of town.There’s never any positive stories Edmonton is the whipping boy of the league.

  110. OriginalPouzar says:

    McLeod and Maksimov both held off the scoresheet (in addition to Bouchard earlier).

    Rasanen did have a goal for Boston College.

  111. OriginalPouzar says:

    Joe G. with a nice set up of Jones on a 2 on 1 and Jones can’t convert – should have buried that one.

  112. OriginalPouzar says:

    Boom – unlike last night when the PP let them down – great pressure on an early PP and Marody scores on a rebound of a Benson point shot (yes, Benson plays the point on the 1st unit).

    Logan Day with the second assist – he started the PP as Jones was on the previous shift.

  113. OmJo says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – yeah why can’t we have more articles about his upside and his attributes that could make him him a stud how he works hard he’s well liked overcame adversity and the heart and self belief that makes him potentially awesome

    To be blunt … negativity sells.

  114. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yamamoto deflects a Benson shot and, boom, another PP goal.

    A delay of game and a to many men penalty and the Condors take advantage for a 2-0 lead.

    Ooop, the are currently giving the goal to Benson – not sure Yamamoto didn’t tip that.

    Marody and Day with the assists (but Day’s will be gone when the goal is awarded to Yama).

  115. OriginalPouzar says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    OriginalPouzar,

    – totally disagree. You should know better. These games mean less than next years training camp to project next years performance.

    – Koski is who he is – you cite his poor play yet you ignore that he didn’t have 6 D behind him.And when he was good team was when team was healthiest.Koskis played fine when the team was playing fine. He’s a passenger not a driver. That’s not an insult and that’s most starting goalies.

    – Talbot looked great in pre season. Koski was awful

    Nope, disagree completely.

    Exhibition games are meaningless completely with respect to performance and really are just for veterans to get their timing and the coaches to teach, implement systems and figure out line/pairing deployment. Your point regarding the goaltenders propagates that point.

    I disagree that these games are meaningless with respect to evaluating performance. Firstly, I don’t believe the players themselves have given up on the season. Leon Drai is putting in more effort in his 200 foot game than he has in his career, why?

    Not to mention, they just played a team, a very good team that just went all in, that is actually fighting for its playoff lives – this was a game they had to have – there is no way that CBJ was mailing it in today and the Oilers made it look like they were.

    I give credit.

  116. jp says:

    striatic:
    With everything that’s happened this season, Mikko Koskinen has the 9th best SV% among goaltenders who have played 40 games or more. This is middle of the pack, but still outperforming players like Fleury, Holtby and Hellebuyck. The Oilers shouldn’t bank on Koskinen being the second coming, and perhaps his contract is a bit rich, but by all appearances he is a perfectly fine NHL goalie. If the Oilers can’t win with Koskinen in net, it isn’t going to be on Koskinen’s head.

    That’s only 19 goalies though. That is middle of the pack, but a bit misleading (9th being “middle of the pack” is why I checked)

    If you go with 33 games that gives 31 goalies (1 per team in theory, but a couple of teams have 2 on the list, and teams like the Flyers I presume have zero). Koskinen is 16th of 31.

    And if you take 30 as the cutoff he’s 19th of 36. Super mediocre but not a steaming pile either.

    Still, he is well clear of the guys he’s shared the net with (Talbot is 34th of 36 in the last set). But yeah this is all somewhat encouraging I guess.

    FWIW, his 4.5M cap hit would put him 20th in the NHL among goalies this year, so he’s probably not even overpaid, assuming this is what he is going forward.

    It’s all a bit uninspiring, but also nothing resembling a shit storm. Go Koskinen, lol

  117. OriginalPouzar says:

    Even Polei back in the lineup after missing last night (illness I believe) and a very spirited scrap half way through the first.

  118. YKOil says:

    godot10: Who has ever said that Nurse is a #1D?No one.The people who want to run him out of town are using the strawman that he is not a #1D.

    Same strawman they used against Petry.

    If he heads out of town it will be because he wants to be paid like a #1D. I actually think he could be part of a top-D pairing, 1 or 1A pair, but he won’t be the cornerstone of that pairing. I’m not a fan of paying him more than $5m a year, if that happens it has to be an 8 year deal so value kicks in last 4 years and he has to be part of a kick-ass pairing. imo

  119. OriginalPouzar says:

    dustrock:
    Bouchard didn’t have the point as OP indicated but there’s a tweet I think by Steve Kournianos (The Draft Analyst) where he shows Bouchard’s stunning vision from today. But of a scramble, he’s on the left side of the ice and finds a forward for what surely would be an NHL goal.

    Bouchard is the kind of guy who is only going to look better with pro players.

    I remember commenting back in the day when Klefbom was playing on a rough Oklahoma team that he might actually show better in the bigs playing with more skill and less chaos.

    I have said the same thing with respect to Klefbom – sometimes players are “better” in the NHL and more productive in the NHL than the AHL due to the talent around them – better talent, players in the right places making the right plays, etc.

    Klefbom is a prime example, he is a better offensive player at the NHL level than he was at the AHL level.

    I think Caleb Jones is another player that could prove to be more productive at the NHL level.

  120. OriginalPouzar says:

    dustrock:
    Bouchard didn’t have the point as OP indicated but there’s a tweet I think by Steve Kournianos (The Draft Analyst) where he shows Bouchard’s stunning vision from today. But of a scramble, he’s on the left side of the ice and finds a forward for what surely would be an NHL goal.

    Bouchard is the kind of guy who is only going to look better with pro players.

    I remember commenting back in the day when Klefbom was playing on a rough Oklahoma team that he might actually show better in the bigs playing with more skill and less chaos.

    Thank you for pointing that out:

    https://twitter.com/TheDraftAnalyst/status/1101973425491460096

  121. OriginalPouzar says:

    No surprise here but Shane Starrett is having a very strong first period – already faced more high danger chances than last night.

  122. YKOil says:

    OriginalPouzar: If its over $1.25M – $1.5M or over 2 years then management needs to walk.

    He is a solid NHL player, a middle six player, however, he is not the type of player to commit term too.

    I guess I can justify up to $1.75M on a one-year term but that looks pretty high.

    I am in the $1.25 to 1.50m camp. No longer than 2 years if the higher number.

  123. innercitysmytty says:

    Reja,

    Yeah he was terrible the last time we made the playoffs too

  124. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wow, Cooper Marody showing some unreal skill and puck poise – just circling in the offensive zone and then a McDavid like cut-back to get a lane to the net – would have been one of the goals of the year if he could have finished.

    Now a PK…

  125. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ugh oh, Jones takes a hooking penalty and SJ has 43 seconds worth of 5 on 3 coming up.

    BOOM: Huge save Starrett…..

  126. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors kill off the penalties!

  127. OriginalPouzar says:

    Cameron Hebig gets a big monkey off his back – his first goal since Dec 19 – a rebound of a nice Lagesson shot. Callahan with the 2nd assist.

    Big last few minutes – kills the 5 on 3 and then take the 3-0 lead a minute after.

  128. jp says:

    YKOil: If he heads out of town it will be because he wants to be paid like a #1D.I actually think he could be part of a top-D pairing, 1 or 1A pair, but he won’t be the cornerstone of that pairing.I’m not a fan of paying him more than $5m a year, if that happens it has to be an 8 year deal so value kicks in last 4 years and he has to be part of a kick-ass pairing.imo

    If he comes anything close to repeating what he did this year he’ll definitely get north of 5M. He’s 28th in D scoring and 19th in TOI. There’s a good argument that he already IS a 1D.

    I share your concerns, but it looks like he’s going to get paid very well. And he may well be worth it.

  129. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors all over the Baracuda right now – just had a ridiculous PP with great puck movements – did everything but score.

    Nope, check that, Bear bombs one from the front and Esposito tips it in.

  130. Dicky94 says:

    Yay! Flames goal! (BARF) This is hard to do.

  131. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors take the 4-0 lead to the 2nd intermission.

  132. Reja says:

    innercitysmytty:
    Reja,

    Yeah he was terrible the last time we made the playoffs too

    If he goes three games pointless cue the bashing. He’s lazy,lethargic,riding on Connor’s back,overpaid and even when he scores he doesn’t smile enough.Myself I will enjoy watching one of the best backhand passers I’ve seen play in my life.

  133. JimmyV1965 says:

    Andy Dufresne: You are wrong on this one. IMO. A goalie is only as good as the team in fornt of him.

    Everything you say/said about Mikko applies 100% to the team play over that period.

    The Oil were awful defensively in Ottawa. Koskinen was their best player. Maybe the Sens showed inability to cash, but he was outstanding.

  134. innercitysmytty says:

    Reja,

    The whole body language thing is one of the biggest loads of shit that the media and others shovel. The guy has been full value and then some for most of his contract and he is only improving. Never mind that with contracts going up on rfa’s he’s going to continue to become better value. His poor stretch last year was directly related to his concussion. As long as he keeps producing more than he’s giving up I could care less how he looks when he’s doing it.

  135. Alpine says:

    jp: If he comes anything close to repeating what he did this year he’ll definitely get north of 5M. He’s 28th in D scoring and 19th in TOI. There’s a good argument that he already IS a 1D.

    I share your concerns, but it looks like he’s going to get paid very well. And he may well be worth it.

    No he is definitely not a 1D. A 1D would not be getting outshot and outscored like Nurse does, especially when one gets lots of McDavid and Drai TOI.

  136. OriginalPouzar says:

    Joe G. from Bear and Esposito makes in 5-0 and I’m off to bed.

    Great return for Bear, who had missed 8 of the last 10.

  137. Alpine says:

    We should pump the brakes on this team. Let’s not talk about playoffs until they have two more good weeks like the past one.

    We just watched this team shit themselves nightly for two months in a row. They’re quite fortunate that the wildcard teams haven’t pulled too far away and that the Wild were sellers at the deadline.

  138. OriginalPouzar says:

    I should add that the Joe G play was a real real nice rag and pass by Bear.

    https://twitter.com/condors/status/1102078701028532225?s=12

  139. BG19 says:

    Final Condors 5 San Jose 2

    Two goals by SJ in the final two minutes.

  140. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Chiasson is a pro and a nice guy. He is slow and has one attribute, a good shot that he sometimes scores with.

    The team needs to not have players like that if they want to get better. If they are going to have skating challenged players in the league as it is they have to have much more skill.

    Gagner, Marody, Benson. Maybe even Rattie.

    Bottom 6 guys who aren’t going to get a lot of points have to have speed and play PK. Speed to keep tempo up and pressure on.

    Big slowish players can’t hold, fight much anymore and hitting is getting trickier by the game as the league focuses on contact to the head while ignoring everything else.

    The team needs more players that have the pace to close and take time away from the bad guys and players that have a rounded enough skill set. They need more skill.

    Brodz and Chiasson sadly for them can’t help this roster.

  141. kgo says:

    pts2pndr: When you are wrong as you were in calling out Draisaitlit would be wise to just own it! You would come out classier than trying to defend or deflect! Old saying when you find yourself in a hole stop digging!

    I love Drai, he reminded me of Jumbo Joe from day 1.

    Posters here who call him lazy are dead wrong, BUT, he needs to continue to improve his d-zone and neutral zone puck mgmt just like 99% of 23 year old players. He sometimes tends to play all 3 zones as if he’s in the o-zone, making passes of higher risk than necessary.

    Thankfully, Drai has already drastically and consistently improved the weakest points of his game ie. quickness, endurance, face-offs, one-timer etc…

    It’s scary to think at his progression/development rate how good he will be from age 25-29 while earning a paltry $8.5M USD. He’ll likely have a very productive 4-6 years beyond that.

    Drai has a very real chance of scoring 50 goals this year…keep in mind that less than 100 men have achieved 50 goal regular seasons in the NHL’s 100+ year history.

  142. ArmchairGM says:

    Chelios is a Dinosaur:
    12-5, Playoffs?:

    BUF W
    VAN W
    TOR L
    NYR W
    NJD W
    ARI W
    VGK L
    STL W
    CBJ W
    OTT W
    LOS W
    DAL L
    ANA W
    COL W
    SJS L
    CAL W

    652830763
    824035787

    It’s theoretically possible, but unlikely. Consider this: the Oilers have just 1 regulation win in the past 82 days against a playoff squad.

  143. ArmchairGM says:

    jp: If he comes anything close to repeating what he did this year he’ll definitely get north of 5M. He’s 28th in D scoring and 19th in TOI. There’s a good argument that he already IS a 1D.

    I share your concerns, but it looks like he’s going to get paid very well. And he may well be worth it.

    It looks like $5.8M on a long term contract is about his market value, based on an $86M cap. Obviously his performance next season will impact that number, but that’s his projected worth.

  144. jp says:

    Alpine: No he is definitely not a 1D. A 1D would not be getting outshot and outscored like Nurse does, especially when one gets lots of McDavid and Drai TOI.

    He looks like a 1D by some important indicators (TOI and points) so he’s going to get paid. That was the point. I agree he’s not currently playing like a 1D despite those numbers, but it’s also not hard to see him getting there from here, IMO. Nurse is going to get paid more than you or YKOil are happy with. I guess we’ll just have to wait an see whether he lives up to whatever deal he signs or not.

  145. jp says:

    ArmchairGM: It looks like $5.8M on a long term contract is about his market value,based on an $86M cap. Obviously his performance next season will impact that number, but that’s his projected worth.

    Yeah that’s not such a shocking number. Less would be great, but something in that ballpark is probably the reality. Hopefully Nurse has a few more steps forward in him.

  146. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    ArmchairGM,

    Its been a bad season and theres little suggesting they can put that type of run together. If they do it, I think this is how.

    A great run woukd be a great story, and I really dont think this team needs to hedge on a higher pick than it needs to get to know what winning feels like and develop the mental strategies to sustain good play. Also Calgary 1, Edmonton 8 seed would be ana amazing series and its worth rooting for the playoffs jutstbfor that potential.

  147. Maoriduvpoojt says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I should add that the Joe G play was a real real nice rag and pass by Bear.

    https://twitter.com/condors/status/1102078701028532225?s=12

    Amazing play by Bear, especially with Esposito getting in his way.

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