The 62 best players in the 2019 draft

My list is possessed by math, and because of it will not resemble the lists you read elsewhere. I’m not a scout. I do pay attention to things like unusual skating styles, but, as you’ll see in the latest edition of this year’s list, at some point the math of the situation overwhelms and we have to listen. Hold on.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. Outstanding offer is here.

  • New Jonathan Willis: Potential GM candidates and why Edmonton needs to consider those with varied experiences.
  • New Lowetide: Identifying Oilers roster needs reveals a familiar list
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How Leon Draisaitl has found ‘another level’ by matching offensive wizardry with sound positioning.
  • Lowetide: How many future NHL goal scorers are playing for the Bakersfield Condors this season?
  • Lowetide: The career destination for Oilers phenom Jesse Puljujarvi remains unknown.
  • Jonathan Willis: Learning from a flawed argument I made about Leon Draisaitl in 2016.
  • Black Dog Pat: How the Oilers can emerge from the Bob Pulford-like era they’re stuck in.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers given harsh lesson by Leafs as playoff hopes on life support.
  • Lowetide: The Oilers’ deadline decisions inform what may come in spring and summer
  • Jonathan Willis: From Mikko Koskinen to Bakersfield, the next two months will reveal a lot about the Oilers
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: After bringing in Sam Gagner and shipping out Cam Talbot, Oilers stand pat on deadline day.
  • Jonathan Willis: Jesse Puljujarvi needs a fresh start, but there’s no reason it can’t be in Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the OHL.
  • Lowetide: Are the 2018-19 Bakersfield Condors the best Edmonton Oilers affiliate ever?
  • Lowetide: How can the Oilers successfully sell the new regime to a fan base that is openly angry?
  • Jonathan Willis: Edmonton’s trade for Sam Gagner is a gamble well worth making.
  • Jonathan Willis: Inside the success of the Bakersfield Condors, and what it means for Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Oilers sure have a lot of problems, but there is a simple solution.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Keith Gretzky on the Oilers trade deadline plan, Andrej Sekera’s return and Jesse Puljujarvi’s season
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ potential roster upheaval might set a record for summer activity
  • Lowetide: It’s time for Oilers owner Daryl Katz to stand and deliver a winning organization.
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL free agency period
  • Lowetide: Edmonton’s 2019 entry draft plans may change with new GM but needs are clear
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects, Winter 2018

2019’S BEST

  1. (1) C Jack Hughes, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). He’s 5.10, 168 but an absolute rocket who takes no time at all to reach high speed.
  2. (2) R Kaapo Kakko, Turkku (Sm-Liiga). He’s 6.02, 190 and already flourishing in the Sm-Liiga. Scouts rave about his advanced two-way game and ability to control the pace of play. Some pretty smart analysts are talking about Kakko going No. 1, but I have him just behind Hughes.
  3. (9) L Arthur Kaliyev, Hamilton (OHL). He has the best NHLE (41) in the draft and I can’t ignore it. I’ve read about skating, hockey sense and playing on the perimeter. I can’t ignore the math.
  4. (3) R Dylan Cozens, Lethbridge (WHL). Size, skill and he can skate. Range of skills, accurate shooter. He has 32 goals in 63 games.
  5. (4) RC Kirby Dach, Saskatoon (WHL). Has emerged as my favourite player in this year’s draft. A dynamic player with size and tremendous skill, has speed, wingspan and an excellent release. He has 23 goals in 57 games, and there’s a razor thin line between he and Cozens.
  6. (5) LC Trevor Zegras, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). I have a helluva time ranking these USHL kids, partly because of NHLE and partly because the national team is a ramrod (who’s zooming who?). Undersized and highly skilled, elusive and aggressive with very good speed.
  7. (6) R Vasili Podkolzin, St. Petersburg (MHL). Smart player with tons of offensive ability, but also possesses good two-way instinct and no fear. Scouts love him, his numbers are lagging. June birthday.
  8. (10) LC Alex Turcotte, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). A strong two-way reputation, he is skilled and an excellent skater. Injuries a worry, he may surpass Zegras on my final list, his 5-on-5 primary points per game is outstanding.
  9. (7) LC Peyton Krebs, Kootenay (WHL). Skill forward who can score, he has quick feet and good hands. He’s just shy of Cozens and Dach, could be a draft bargain.
  10. (11) LD Bowen Byram, Vancouver (WHL). Explosive speed is his top attribute but he’s also excellent with the puck and owns a heavy shot. I think he’ll go inside the top eight at the draft due to a lack of blueliners this year.
  11. (8) L Jakob Pelletier, Moncton (QMJHL). Undersized skill winger with two-way ability. My QMJHL guy is Adam Sherren: “When you look at the 2017 Q draft top 10, I think that other than Lafreniere, of the remaining guys selected in the top 10 Pelletier is by far the nicest looking pro prospect.” He also says he’s a consistent player and has enough range to make it as a scorer and a two-way type.
  12. (12) LC Ryan Suzuki, Barrie (OHL). Great vision, skill, tremendous passer. If he were faster, he’d be top five. Mike Morreale says he’s the best draft eligible playmaker in the OHL this season.
  13. (14) L Matthew Boldy, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). Bigger winger with skill, he’s strong on the puck and can score goals.
  14. (17) RC Raphael Lavoie, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). Sherren: “He can be an impressive force out there. When he leans on a defender and cuts to the net, there can be no stopping him. Lavoie is a big physical force who is that old fashioned power forward. Since he is a 18 y/o player, I’d like to see him step ahead of his peers a little more in terms of his production, but Halifax is a very good, deep team, so the offense is spread around quite a bit. One worry I have with Lavoie is that he might suffer a similar fate as a pro to some of the other big power forwards that have come through the Q in recent years…should he not become a top 6 NHL forward. I’m thinking of the development of guys like Julien Gauther, Philippe Paradis, etc.”
  15. (13) R Cole Caufield, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). He’s small, fast and a ridiculous scorer. Quick release, accurate.
  16. (15) LC Alex Newhook, Victoria (BCHL). I’m having a difficult time slotting him, but 100+ points in a pretty good league gets your attention.
  17. (16) LD Cam York, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). The latest impact puck mover out of the USHL, great speed, passing and creativity.
  18. (18) LD Thomas Harley, Mississauga (OHL). Good size, speed and he’s posting impressive numbers.
  19. (23) LC Connor McMichael, London (OHL). He has good speed and lots of skill, especially in the offensive zone.
  20. (21) RC Philip Tomasino, Niagra (OHL). Underrated player with impressive skill, spike offensively year over year has him here.
  21. (22) R Bobby Brink, Sioux City (USHL). Small, fast and very skilled, he’s an intelligent player with great vision.
  22. (26) L Nick Robertson, Peterborough (OHL). Undersized skill winger with a sixth sense as a goal scorer. Impressive at Top Prospects.
  23. (19) LD Matthew Robertson, Edmonton (WHL). He’s had some injury issues but has also emerged as a complete defender.
  24. (24) RD Victor Soderstrom, Brynas (SHL). Impressive offensive player. Good skater, good decisions, very quick.
  25. (29) L Nolan Foote, Kelowna (WHL). Power forward with skill, not certain he’s a future scorer on an NHL skill line.
  26. (20) LD Philip Broberg, AIK (Allsvenskan). He’s big and can skate, while also displaying puck moving ability.
  27. (31) RC Brett Leason, Prince Albert (WHL). Already famous, he turns 20 two months before the draft. Impressive scorer, massive year over year spike.
  28. (27) L Nils Hoglander, Rogle (SHL). A small skill winger, he can beat defensemen clean. More playmaker than scorer, but has a quick release and an effective shot.
  29. (25) LD Ville Heinola, Lukko (Sm-Liiga). A mature player for his age, two-way talent with good speed and calm feet. Excellent passer.
  30. (35) LW Egor Afanasyev, Muskegon (USHL). His numbers are outstanding, plus he’s a big forward with a powerful stride and an excellent shot. I like him plenty.
  31. (30) R Maxim Cajkovic, Saint John (QMJHL). Sherren: “Cajkovic really has limited options to play with. Anyone who scouts him really just is looking at him as an individual talent. Saint John uses him as their main shooter. He plays the point on the PP and is routinely set up at the top of the circle at even strength. They try to funnel the puck through him, to use his shot and get it to the net. But he doesn’t have much help.”
  32. (32) (NR) F Samuel Fagemo, Frolunda (SHL). I liked him a year ago, no reason to change now. Has 14 goals in 38 SHL games this season.
  33. (28) RD Moritz Seider, Mannheim (DEL). An actual teenage giant (6.04, 198) with a Condor wingspan. He’s a good passer and has decent speed.
  34. (33) G Spencer Knight, US National Team (USHL). A .929 save percentage in the USHL and a mountain of positive scouting reports have him as the top goaltender in this year’s draft.
  35. (34) RD Anttoni Honka, Jyp (Sm-Liiga). Draft Analyst: Swift skating puck rusher who knows how to handle the puck and has the kind of mobility that keeps forecheckers honest. Anttoni, whose older brother Julius currently plays defense for the Dallas Stars, is the most offensively-gifted among the handful of top-tier Finnish rearguards eligible for the 2019 draft.
  36. (36) LD Tobias Björnfot, Djurgardens (SuperElite). Outstanding speed, he has impressive offensive talent but is an adventure without the puck.
  37. (37) R Nathan Légaré, Baie Comeau Drakkar (QMJHL). Power winger who can score goals, he can find open ice and cash (43 goals in 62 games).
  38. (38) RD Lassi Thomson, Kelowna (WHL). Mobile, skilled defenseman with good speed.
  39. (46) L Robert Mastrosimone, Chicago (USHL). Some scouting reports have him as a top tier scoring prospect, he has skill for sure.
  40. (39) LC Jamieson Rees, Sarnia Sting (OHL). Undersized skill forward who works hard on the forecheck. Terrific speed and a great motor.
  41. (41) G Mads Søgaard, Medicine Hat (WHL). Tigers goalie is enjoying a strong season (.925) and that includes a late spike down the stretch. I have him as the top WHL goalie in this year’s draft. He is 6.06.
  42. (42) L Ethan Keppen, Flint (OHL). Good speed and his size (6.02, 214) and skill (25 goals 5-on-5 in 62 games). Has seven goals in his most recent nine games.
  43. (43) LD Liam Ross, Sudbury (OHL). Has size, two-way skills and is a good passer.
  44. (44) R Albin Grewe, Djurgardens (SHL). Rugged winger with skill.
  45. (45) G Hunter Jones, Peterborough (OHL). He’s a big goalie who has pedigree (BM No. 36), but his .900 SP has me fading him a little.
  46. (47) L Dillon Hamaliuk, Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL). Promising numbers (31, 11-15-26) before losing his season to injury. Strong, great forechecker and he has skill.
  47. (40) R Josh Williams, Edmonton (WHL). Terrific skater and impressive skill, lack of consistency has him sliding.
  48. (48) RD Drew Helleson, US National Development Team (USHL). Impressive puck moving defender.
  49. (49) RD Billy Constantinou, Kingston (OHL). Fast as lightning, high risk and reward defender.
  50. (NR) L Pavel Dorofeyev, Magnitogorsk (MHL). Dangerous skill winger who has a quick release, heavy shot and a sixth sense about where to be and when to be there.
  51. (NR) LD Alex Vlasic, US National Development Team (USHL) Big defender who will probably make his living on the defensive side of the puck, he’s 6.06, 192.
  52. (NR) LC Yegor Spiridonov, Magnitogorsk (MHL). Tenacious two-way winger with impressive skill.
  53. (50) L Patrik Puistola, Leki (Mestis). High skill, don’t really know much about him but he scores at every level.
  54. (NR) LC John Beecher, US National Development Team (USHL). Center with good size and two-way ability, Black Book has him as having “certain power forward elements to his game” including a strong skating style.
  55. (NR) L Samuel Poulin, Sherbrooke Phoenix (QMJHL). Smart, two-way player who delivers a heavy game, speed is just okay.
  56. (NR) LD Ryan Johnson, Sioux Falls (USHL). Smart, mobile defender who hasn’t shown offensive ability.
  57. (NR) LD Vladislav Kolyachonok, Flint Firebirds (OHL). Otten’s site has some great quotes on him, including Mike Morreale: “The Belarusian can skate and think the game so well. He’s an encouraging and interesting prospect who could go late in the first round or early second. He’s been a bright spot for a Flint team that has struggled this season.”
  58. (NR) LC Matvei Guskov, London Knights (OHL). Another solid two-way center, he was highly touted before the season but his medium offensive output have moved him down many lists. I like his complete skill set.
  59. (NR) R Graeme Clarke, Ottawa ’67s (OHL). Pure scorer (20 goals in 49 games) who has been famous for some time. Good skater, great shot.
  60. (NR) L Nando Eggenberger, Oshawa Generals (OHL). Two-way talent, enjoying a solid year in the OHL (he was eligible last season). I’m not sure anyone will take him, but Red Line loves him.
  61. (NR) L Ilya Nikolayev, Yaroslavl (MHL). He’s more likely a checking center or possibly No. 2, but has played with high skill wingers and delivered.
  62. (NR) R Leevi Aaltonen, Kalpa (Jr Sm-Liiga). ISS: “Slick offensive play-maker, undersized but highly skilled.”

I hope you enjoyed this, my draft coverage has been lacking but I promise a top 100 players for the draft just after the season ends. I’m not sure Edmonton keeps its first-round selection, but do believe there’s value in this draft at skill forward.

OILERS MOCK!

  • No. 9 overall—LC Alex Turcotte, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). He’s an excellent skater and the Black Book says “has excellent puck skills, great vision, and he executed plays with a purpose.” Injury obscured his boxcars early in the season, but he’s now 11, 8-15-23 in the USHL.
  • No. 40 overall—R Samuel Fagemo, Frolunda (SHL). Black Book: likes to shoot the puck and is not shy to put pucks on net, even from bad angles at times. He has decent size; he’s strong on the puck and does well along the boards thanks to his surprising strength. Fagemo has quick hands, good puck skills and good one-on-one abilities.
  • No. 88 overall—L Adam Beckman, Spokane Chiefs (WHL). Ranks No. 5 among WHL forwards under 18 with 27 goals, with 20 coming at 5-on-5 (No. 3 among dub U18’s). Averages 2.46 shots per game.
  • No. 102 overall —LC Lukas Wernblom, Modo (Allsvenskan). I’m all over the Allsvenskan like a fly on stink. That league has found a formula that works. Wernblom is a 2000, very skilled and smart.
  • No. 164 overall—R Wiljami Myllylä, HIFK (Jr Liiga). Speed demon, has been posting gaudy scoring numbers for several years.
  • No. 195 overall— L Yegor Chizhikov, Cherepovets (MHL). Haven’t read a thing on him, but he’s a July birthday and scores in every league they send him to, so I’d grab him here.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun morning with three fabulous guests, and you! TSN1260, 10 this morning, scheduled to appear:

  • Bruce McCurdy, Cult of Hockey at the Edmonton Journal. We’ll chat about a win and a nice late-season run for the Oilers, and the Brier.
  • Simon Boisvert, Prospect Insider. We’ll talk 2019 draft and the Condors.
  • Jon Campbell, OddsShark. Is now a good time to bet McDavid winning Art Ross? Plus college hoops and maybe even some curling.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5025165/edmon…nicholson/

    Nicholson said he’s yet to ask any other teams to speak with potential candidates as he continues identifying exactly what the Oilers need.

    “Looking for a person that can really asses talent”

    “But the key right now is making sure you’re drafting right and you have the right development system in place.”

  2. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja: You’ve seen Benson play more than myself. Who’s a comparable to him in the nhl right know?

    Ooooh, i find it tough to make those types of comparisons – Backlund maybe.

  3. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    What the hell was this guy doing for 3 years?

  4. Cahoon says:

    I haven’t checked in on the condors in a bit, is the streak still alive OP?

  5. OriginalPouzar says:

    Gust and Polie with the ugliest 2 on 1 goal of all time.

    Gust mishandled the puck and it bounced off a bunch of bodies – looks to me like Poeli actually kicked it in but they aren’t reviewing it for some strange reasons.

    5-0.

  6. OriginalPouzar says:

    Cahoon: I haven’t checked in on the condors in a bit, is the streak still alive OP?

    No, it ended at 17 games.

    In game 18, against Iowa, the Condors absolutely dominated – well at least the first two period, I didn’t watch the third. Andrew Hammond absolutely stole the game – end stop.

    Since then – they blew out the Baracuda on Saturday (it was 5-0 until the last minute) and are currently up on them 5-0 early in the 2nd (Barcuda is in 2nd in the division – formerly ahead of the Condors by quite a bit – not any more).

  7. Cahoon says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Thanks for the update, nice to hear they are dominating. I always appreciate your updates on the games.

  8. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar: Ooooh, i find it tough to make those types of comparisons – Backlund maybe.

    Maybe he niches out a career like a Horcoff,Sutter type I really enjoy watching that style of player..

  9. OriginalPouzar says:

    Clear cut breakaway and the Baracuda snap the shut out – 5-1.

    Lagesson got caught trying to break up the pass in the neutral zone – just missed it and the breakaway resulted.

  10. OriginalPouzar says:

    Another possession shift for the kid line – Benson with a fabulous pass from the half boards to a streaking Patrick Russell who I believe just came off the bench – a perfect pass and Russell in all alone but can’t convert.

  11. OriginalPouzar says:

    Haven’t heard Joe G’s name much tonight until a real strong drive to the net draw a PP.

  12. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lagesson with a bomb from the top of the circles (walked in from the blueline) and he beats the goalie clean.

    6-1.

    Gust with the apple.

  13. BONE207 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Sounds like Lucic has also been dealing with a hip issue – he left practice today but should be good to go tomorrow.

    Unlike Pool party however, he operated on it himself using a rusty skate & some scotch tape or was it scotch & tape. Details at 11…

  14. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja: Maybe he niches out a career like a Horcoff,Sutter type I really enjoy watching that style of player..

    I believe he has more offensive skill and is a smarter offensive player than Horcoff – though that doesn’t mean it’ll translate to the NHL level.

  15. pts2pndr says:

    Andy Dufresne: Moses wandered in the wilderness for 40 years………..OR maybe he was a Oilers or Browns fan and it only SEEMED like 40 years.

    Was Moses a Leaf?

  16. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar: I believe he has more offensive skill and is a smarter offensive player than Horcoff – though that doesn’t mean it’ll translate to the NHL level.

    Here’s hoping I’ve only watched him in few games in the AHL and in Van but he seems to be progressing nicely now that he’s finally healthy.

  17. Westchester Oil says:

    OriginalPouzar: No, it ended at 17 games.

    In game 18, against Iowa, the Condors absolutely dominated – well at least the first two period, I didn’t watch the third. Andrew Hammond absolutely stole the game – end stop.

    Since then – they blew out the Baracuda on Saturday (it was 5-0 until the last minute) and are currently up on them 5-0 early in the 2nd (Barcuda is in 2nd in the division – formerly ahead of the Condors by quite a bit – not any more).

    Too bad the Hamburglar didn’t limit his thievery to burgers.

  18. BONE207 says:

    pts2pndr: Was Moses a Leaf?

    No, that was Noah

  19. Munny says:

    Lay back and think of Engelland.

  20. Halfwise says:

    Munny:
    Lay back and think of Engelland.

    Is everyone who does that prone to do it?

  21. Koof says:

    Pat Verbeek would be a person I would look at. He ticks all the boxes.
    Get Holland as poho if he is free

    This is from his Tampa profile https://www.nhl.com/lightning/team/pat-verbeek

    NHL veteran PAT VERBEEK enters his ninth season with the Tampa Bay Lightning, his eighth as assistant general manager. He was hired by the Lightning as director of professional scouting on June 8, 2010 and then named assistant general manager on July 1, 2011. Verbeek oversees all of the team’s professional scouting operations, aids in player procurement and reports directly to the general manager.

    Before joining the Lightning, Verbeek, 54, spent four seasons as a pro scout with the Detroit Red Wings, assisting the management staff as the organization both built from within and made key acquisitions from outside to build a deep and talented roster. He scouted select teams at both the NHL and AHL levels, providing key information to the Detroit coaching and management staffs regarding potential trades and free agent acquisitions.

    A native of Sarnia, Ontario, Verbeek played for five different teams during a 20-year NHL career. He appeared in 1,424 games with the New Jersey Devils, Hartford Whalers, New York Rangers, Dallas Stars and Red Wings, compiling 522 goals and 1,063 points. He is the only player in NHL history to total more than 500 goals and 2,500 career penalty minutes. Verbeek also won the Stanley Cup with Dallas in 1999.

    Verbeek recently served as director of player personnel for Team North America at the 2016 World Cup of Hockey. During the summer of 2015, Verbeek served on the management team for Hockey Canada at the IIHF World Championships in the Czech Republic. Canada won the Gold Medal in dominating fashion, with a 6-1 win over Russia in the title game. It was Verbeek’s first time on a Team Canada management team.

    Verbeek was originally drafted by New Jersey in the third round, 43rd overall, of the 1982 NHL Entry Draft.

  22. Ryan says:

    Credit to young Willis who found the link.

    I had been reminiscing about a brilliant Dellow post about the San Jose Sharks’ use of a player database, aging curves, forecasting etc.

    Young Willis found a link to an article that’s a worthy read.

    Pretend the article wasn’t published in 2004 and imagine if you think the Oilers management have caught up yet… to the Sharks.., in 2004.

    https://www.eweek.com/database/san-jose-sharks-on-thick-ice

    The first step in putting the teeth back in the Sharks came when Wilson, the new general manager, along with new head coach Ron Wilson (no relation) and their assistants, got together to create what Will calls “the ideal team.”

    The goal was to define, using trackable statistics, the right types of players to put on the team, such as “a checking-line forward who is between 24 and 28 years of age and averages 30 points a season” or a “veteran defenseman who can move the puck.”

    Using a database that Will had created originally to track the progress of prospects, the Sharks built a virtual team— based on performance and age—comprised of players already on their roster or on their minor league teams, as well as players on other NHL rosters.

    – Good gord the Sharks were looking for defenseman who can move the puck back in 2004. 15 years later other than Klefbom and Sekera who are only slightly above average at puck moving, the Oilers still consider the ability to transition the puck to be a low priority.

    – Again, the Sharks figured out to look for checking line forwards who are between 24-28. Fourteen years after that, the Oilers sign 34-year-old Brodziak to a two year contract. You don’t say….

    Using a database that Will had created originally to track the progress of prospects, the Sharks built a virtual team— based on performance and age—comprised of players already on their roster or on their minor league teams, as well as players on other NHL rosters.

    The database included hundreds of Sharks prospects playing in leagues throughout Canada, the U.S. and Europe; the 700-plus players on the other 29 NHL team rosters; and several thousand minor league players. Each players statistics—goals, assists, time on ice, goals-against average, etc.— were compiled, as well as age, height, weight, salary and eligibility status.

    These individual statistics and salaries were pulled into the Sharks database from two sources: a database of game statistics from RinkNet Marketing Inc. in Guelph, Ontario, and a salary database, called the Local Arbitration Solution system, maintained by the NHL in New York.

    The RinkNet database collects team and individual player statistics every day from more than two dozen leagues around the world. For $12,000 a year, an NHL team can find out exactly how much time on ice a forward playing in the German Elite League logged the previous night.

    2004.

  23. OriginalPouzar says:

    Didn’t see most of the third but, after giving up a few goals after the game was essentially over (similar to Sat), Polei bangs in a rebound of a Bear point shot for his second of the night (and third point) and Joe G. with the empty netter.

    Starrett with 33 saves on 37 shots in the 4-0 win.

  24. OriginalPouzar says:

    Will be fun to see if the Oilers can continue their very solid play now that they are back at home – rested against the Canuck team that played last night and first game back after a trip – trap game but they can’t afford a lull in effort.

    Will be interesting to see who comes out for Khaira if he’s good to go – Brodz or Rieder would be the obvious choices and, if so, one of them coming out with both Cave and Currie remaining in the lineup will be telling.

    Go Oilers!

  25. OriginalPouzar says:

    Sounds like the Rodrigue injury is a groin. Severity unknown.

  26. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: He should definitely be i the conversation to battle for a job.

    I would say that Marody is the primary driver most of the time (he is a bit older).

    I think that whole line ( Benson – Marody – Yamamoto ) could become the Oilers 3rd line next season – bring them in wholesale. A soft minutes line with Sekera-Persson backing them up. 🙂

  27. OriginalPouzar says:

    That is alot of rookies being broken in at the same time, no?

  28. London Jon says:

    Andy Dufresne: Thanks Jon.It was enjoyable and you won the debate and rightly so. My style is too niche for 99% of the population.

    Your perspective reminded me of things I know to be true.

    But more than anything I enjoyed your calm, polite, professional, friendly tone. Its not common.

    I was lucky to have a Father that gave me good investment advice when I was young (in my 20’s). He learned from many mistakes but finally got it right in middle age. It was then that he basically took your advice/direction. And from age 40 untill his passing he was very disciplined and did very well. He passed away just months before the market correction/crash/internet bubble burst/recession of 2001.

    It sounds strange but I was very happy for him that he passed away while his portfolio was at a high point. It was a semi-professional hobby for him and a scorecard of sorts. And it brought him much joy.

    ANYWAY the reason I mention all of this is that,

    The best piece of advice he ever gave me was “to find an Investment Advisor who you could talk to. Someone who speaks your language and with whom the conversation seems to just flow almost intuitivley”

    Small sample size…..but I think you are one of those guys.

    Cheers!

    I thought your last message was very kind and I was very flattered but I am even more so now. Thank you.

    I really enjoyed reading what you had to say about your dad. And I love that he passed on what he had leant to you and that it’s been so valuable to you. Really nice to hear 😀

    In my experience that’s surprisingly rare. When I’ve met clients for the first time I would guess that 40% have spoilt their children so badly that they have no motivation in life, they are hopeless with money and they are huge stress and a big problem for the parents. For another 40% the kids are fine but the parents just aren’t passing on their knowledge because they don’t want to involve the children. Fine while the parents are alive and with it, but a nightmare when they’re not and the kids more often than not fall out with each other and blow the money. So I think you were in the lucky 20%!

    While I’m writing about that there are some really nice ways to involve the kids and get them up to being financially astute without showing them the whole picture and making them feel like they don’t need to do anything. That said, if someone’s sold their business for a packet these days what kids aren’t going to have googled their dad and his business at some point!!

    On the whole my clients biggest worry is their kids and how they’ll turn out (or trying to fix how they’ve turned out if it’s already gone pear shaped!!). I’ve learnt that when I help clients with that they’re a client for life and so are the kids. Ten years ago I spent a lot of my time focusing on the portfolios and trying to get the performance clients would love me for. Now I spend at least as much time on the family, succession, tax efficiency etc and run the portfolios in a much simpler way for all the reasons you and I were discussing before.

    All good fun!

  29. London Jon says:

    Oh, and I don’t know about Edmonton but it’s an absolute crime here in London that so very few people get good financial advice now. So, why is that?

    Well…

    The bar is very high and getting higher every year for the best places to get good, broad advice, which is the higher tier Private Banks.

    Accountants are generally poor, reactive and have way too many clients and the good ones are v expensive. Tax, family and structuring lawyers are generally good, but with poor follow up and always v expensive.

    And outside of the top tier Private Banks the quality of broad financial advisor is just depressingly low, there’s a lot of the wrong people in the industry with a short term perspective and for the wrong reasons and the quality of person and advice just isn’t there.

    Probably fair to say that 95% of people don’t get good advice from anywhere. Would have called that 50% when I started in the industry 22 years ago.

    If anyone would like me to bore the whole board with ‘how to find a good financial advisor’ I’ll happily oblige!

  30. Melvis says:

    “What would we learn if we could see what an MLB team’s scouts saw? For the first time, we can: A former member of the Cincinnati Reds front office provided The Ringer with a copy of the Reds’ scouting database from between 1991 and 2003, consisting of more than 73,000 reports. Throughout this week, we’ll be using this newly declassified scouting gold mine to analyze old-school scouting’s strengths and weaknesses, profile players who defied the scouts’ expectations, and examine how scouting has evolved in recent years. In Monday’s Part 1, we crunched the numbers on how well scouts projected players. In Wednesday’s Part 2, we talk to four players about how they defied the scouts’ expectations and ask the most unerring Reds scout to explain his success.”

    I’m guessing some here might find this “long read”, multipart series verrry interesting.

    https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/3/6/18252369/cincinnati-reds-scouting-report-series-part-2-player-projections

  31. London Jon says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    https://globalnews.ca/news/5025165/edmon…nicholson/

    Nicholson said he’s yet to ask any other teams to speak with potential candidates as he continues identifying exactly what the Oilers need.

    “Looking for a person that can really asses talent”

    “But the key right now is making sure you’re drafting right and you have the right development system in place.”

    Why is now the time to be ‘making sure you have the right development system in place’. You should have been doing that since you joined!! Now is the right time to hire the best possible GM. Full stop.

    Reminds me of Chiarelli saying the team needed to get faster after he had turned over the whole roster and made it slower!! They are talking like someone fresh in the role assessing what the problems are. Not people who have been in charge for ages and have just discovered that something is important.

    Bob seems to be throwing the net a little wider this time at least. He has made a small step towards learning how to hire important people properly at the age of 65…

  32. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: Starrett with 33 saves on 37 shots in the 4-0 win

    Huh?

  33. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    That is alot of rookies being broken in at the same time, no?

    There’s a very good chance they’d be better than the Oilers current 3rd line.

  34. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Didn’t see most of the third but, after giving up a few goals after the game was essentially over (similar to Sat), Polei bangs in a rebound of a Bear point shot for his second of the night (and third point) and Joe G. with the empty netter.

    Starrett with 33 saves on 37 shots in the 4-0 win.

    Did the other team have 4 disallowed goals?

  35. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    That is alot of rookies being broken in at the same time, no?

    It worked for New Jersey during Hall’s MVP year, but obviously they crashed since then.

  36. Professor Q says:

    Ryan:
    Credit to young Willis who found the link.

    I had been reminiscing about a brilliant Dellow post about the San Jose Sharks’ use of a player database, aging curves, forecasting etc.

    Young Willis found a link to an article that’s a worthy read.

    Pretend the article wasn’t published in 2004 and imagine if you think the Oilers managementhave caught up yet… to the Sharks.., in 2004.

    https://www.eweek.com/database/san-jose-sharks-on-thick-ice

    The first step in putting the teeth back in the Sharks came when Wilson, the new general manager, along with new head coach Ron Wilson (no relation) and their assistants, got together to create what Will calls “the ideal team.”


    The goal was to define, using trackable statistics, the right types of players to put on the team, such as “a checking-line forward who is between 24 and 28 years of age and averages 30 points a season” or a “veteran defenseman who can move the puck.”

    Using a database that Will had created originally to track the progress of prospects, the Sharks built a virtual team— based on performance and age—comprised of players already on their roster or on their minor league teams, as well as players on other NHL rosters.

    – Good gord the Sharks were looking for defenseman who can move the puck back in 2004. 15 years later other than Klefbom and Sekera who are only slightly above average at puck moving, the Oilers still consider the ability to transition the puck to be a low priority.

    – Again, the Sharks figured out to look for checking line forwards who are between 24-28. Fourteen years after that, the Oilers sign 34-year-old Brodziak to a two year contract. You don’t say….

    Using a database that Will had created originally to track the progress of prospects, the Sharks built a virtual team— based on performance and age—comprised of players already on their roster or on their minor league teams, as well as players on other NHL rosters.


    The database included hundreds of Sharks prospects playing in leagues throughout Canada, the U.S. and Europe; the 700-plus players on the other 29 NHL team rosters; and several thousand minor league players. Each players statistics—goals, assists, time on ice, goals-against average, etc.— were compiled, as well as age, height, weight, salary and eligibility status.

    These individual statistics and salaries were pulled into the Sharks database from two sources: a database of game statistics from RinkNet Marketing Inc. in Guelph, Ontario, and a salary database, called the Local Arbitration Solution system, maintained by the NHL in New York.

    The RinkNet database collects team and individual player statistics every day from more than two dozen leagues around the world. For $12,000 a year, an NHL team can find out exactly how much time on ice a forward playing in the German Elite League logged the previous night.

    2004.

    If only our dear owner had his fingers in statistical analysis and program development companies, and was more forward-thinking than nostalgic.

    Then we would only be a proper 3 years behind San Jose!

    Of course, even the NY Rangers and teams from other sports get help from SAP, in various aspects, so Edmonton could have likely been among them if they were thinking clearly that early (still can, I’d imagine). Or even another source, too. Dellow et al.

  37. OriginalPouzar says:

    Not sure why I posted 4-0 win when it was an 8-4 win – maybe I meant 4 goal win?

    It was 2 am for crying out loud – that’s my excuse!

  38. Ryan says:

    Lowetide,

    “The Oilers are burning daylight, but the pace is leisurely. When do we take a leisurely pace? When we’re sure, or reasonably sure, of the outcome.”

    Don’t let me sit down to a poker table with you, sir.

  39. Nit64 says:

    Melvis:
    “What would we learn if we could see what an MLB team’s scouts saw? For the first time, we can: A former member of the Cincinnati Reds front office provided The Ringer with a copy of the Reds’ scouting database from between 1991 and 2003, consisting of more than 73,000 reports. Throughout this week, we’ll be using this newly declassified scouting gold mine to analyze old-school scouting’s strengths and weaknesses, profile players who defied the scouts’ expectations, and examine how scouting has evolved in recent years. In Monday’s Part 1, we crunched the numbers on how well scouts projected players. In Wednesday’s Part 2, we talk to four players about how they defied the scouts’ expectations and ask the most unerring Reds scout to explain his success.”

    I’m guessing some here might find this “long read”, multipart series verrry interesting.

    https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/3/6/18252369/cincinnati-reds-scouting-report-series-part-2-player-projections

    This bit looks familiar. #firstofftheice #bodylanguage #lookslazy

    “Other atypical categories didn’t prove as illuminating. “Aggression,” for instance, was a one-word label for a player’s demeanor or attitude, a component of makeup. Aggression ratings weren’t even slightly indicative of future production, and many of the outcomes ran contrary to what one would expect: “Timid” pitchers did better than “battlers,” and “careless” pitchers ended up above average”

  40. rickithebear says:

    Best example of binary analysis (academia) vs multivariable Analysis. (My belief)
    Presented last month.

    My father was asked to head up the European space agency in the late 70,s but he stayed with environment Canada to head up aerospace. He was paid wages concurrent to best paid private industry peers. With his pension being 75% of his 5 best years.

    This is the most accurate representation of climate change math.
    Climate change scientists binary look at climate change affect ( binary)
    Solar particulate climate scientists look at climate change affect ( multivariable)

    https://youtu.be/NYoOcaqCzxo

    Current hockey analysts look at hockey in a binary way.
    I presume most here are university trained and lack the ability to think beyond binary.

    This video displays the flaw of binary (partial picture) versus multivariable (whole picture)

    Plus after you watch this you will be glad to know CO2 affect is 0% with only partial inclusion of the excluded data from climate modelling.

    However, sources must be verified!

    As a father with Cancer I will be pushing my politicians.

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