What a Day!

by Lowetide

The Edmonton Oilers had an eventful day and the fallout may be headline news for some time. While the news of the day rocketed around the world, 97 and 29 did their bullet train and flattened the Blue Jackets. Jarmo Kekalainen might be famous for something other than passing on Jesse Puljujarvi and the Oilers helped that story along, too. It was quite the night.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. INSANE NEW OFFER IS HERE!

  • New Jonathan Willis: Bob Nicholson’s misguided Tobias Rieder comments reveal deeper problems within Oilers management
  • New Jonathan Willis: Ken Hitchcock knows why Edmonton has trouble exiting its zone, but lacks the players to fix it.
  • Lowetide: Trimming cap fat and adding speed and skill will shape Oilers’ offseason.
  • Jonathan Willis: Former Canucks architects Mike Gillis and Laurence Gilman should be considered for any vacant NHL GM job
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers need to drastically revamp their forward group.
  • Lowetide: Identifying the risk and the right price if the Oilers were to trade Adam Larsson (to Toronto?)
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ prospect Tyler Benson’s rookie AHL season a revelation.
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers draft early, the WHL is loaded and there’s a lot of history.
  • Jonathan Willis: Analyzing how much the Oilers should be willing to spend on pending free agent Alex Chiasson.
  • Jonathan Willis: Keith Gretzky is a legitimate Oilers GM candidate, but would be a hard sell in Edmonton
  • Lowetide: How the Oilers can build a contender during Connor McDavid’s prime.
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers aren’t good, but this group has more potential than teams from the decade of darkness
  • Lowetide: Bob Nicholson’s search continues for the Oilers new tomorrow, but at a leisurely pace.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How Leon Draisaitl has found ‘another level’ by matching offensive wizardry with sound positioning.
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the OHL.

OILERS AFTER 74

  • Oilers in 2015: 29-38-7, 65 points; goal differential -34
  • Oilers in 2016: 40-25-9, 89 points; goal differential +25
  • Oilers in 2017: 33-36-5, 71 points; goal differential -30
  • Oilers in 2018: 33-34-7, 73 points; goal differential -26

Honestly, what a night. The Oilers aren’t going to make the playoffs, but a win on Saturday gets them to 75 points in 75 games. It means they have a chance to salvage something out of a lost season.

OILERS IN MARCH

  • Oilers in March 2016: 6-4-0, 12 points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in March 2017: 6-3-1, 13 points; goal differential +12
  • Oilers in March 2018: 5-4-1, 11 points; goal differential +4
  • Oilers in March 2019: 6-4-0, 12 points; goal differential -1

WHAT TO EXPECT IN MARCH?

  • On the road to: Columbus, Buffalo (Expected 0-1-1) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • At home to: Vancouver, Toronto, NY Rangers, NJD (Expected 2-1-1) (Actual 2-2-0)
  • On the road to: Arizona, Vegas, St. Louis (Expected: 0-2-1) (Actual 1-2-0)
  • At home to: Columbus, Ottawa, Los Angeles, Dallas, Anaheim (Expected: 3-1-1) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 5-5-4, 14 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 6-4-0, 12 points in ten games

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Sekera-Benning were 18-8 in 17:10, 7-2 shots, 1-0 goals and 3-2 HDSC. Sekera really brings calm to the duo. Went 15-5 in 11:28 against Wennberg-Jenner-Bjorkstrand. In terms of 5-on-5 time on ice, this pairing passed Nurse-Russell to become the second pair on the night.
  • Nurse-Russell went 21-11 in 16:49, 8-5 shots, 2-0 goals and 4-3 HDSC. Nurse had a good game to my eye, Russell gave away the puck a couple of times and double clutched on a pass to 97, but otherwise had a good night. Pairing went 5-7 in 9:33 against Panarin-Duchene-Anderson (no goals) and 7-4 in 6:52 (1-0 goals) against Dzingel-Dubois-Atkinson.
  • Klefbom-Larsson were 15-21 in 21:48, 4-12 shots, 0-1 goals and 3-4 HDSC. Went 5-10 in 9:55 against Panarin-Duchene-Anderson (no goals) and 3-8 in 7:54 (0-1 goals) against against Dzingel-Dubois-Atkinson.
  • Mikko Koskinen stopped 18 of 19, .947.
  • NaturalStatTrick and NHL.com.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Nuge-McDavid-Kassian were 8-8 in 12 minutes, 3-2 shots, 0-1 goals and 0-3 HDSC. Each man had considerable game success but it did not arrive for this trio.
  • Lucic-Draisaitl-Chiasson went 7-4 in 8:25, 2-3 shots, no goals and 0-1 HDSC. It’s almost like Hitchcock starts the game with these ‘false front’ lines and then waits to bring out the bullet train later on.
  • Rieder-Cave-Gagner were 9-4 in 8:10, 2-0 shots and HDSC’s. This is a group that is having success, Cave may not be back in the fall but is building a case.
  • Draisaitl-McDavid-Kassian went 7-4 in 5:51, 4-1 shots, 2-0 goals and 3-0 HDSC. This line is magic.
  • Lucic-Nuge-Chiasson were 4-4 in 5:25, 1-3 shots, no goals and 1-1 HDSC.
  • Gambardella-Brodziak-Currie went 9-4 in 3:52, 3-2 shots, 1-0 goals and 0-2 HDSC. That was a huge goal and the possession number reflects dogged forechecking. Music!

Jon did a splendid job in describing the last 24 hours, I agree with him in all areas. The comments by Nicholson are not a surprise, one imagines several or most management people have said that or worse about Rieder, Milan Lucic and various other members of the team. It probably got said about Ryan Strome a lot.

Thing is, Nicholson said it in public. I have, on several occasions (mostly at The Athletic) commented that Nicholson’s casual style is a good fit for Edmonton. The one thing he had been able to do (water aside) is avoid a ghastly public moment ala “if you have to ask the question” or “in case that’s ever an issue” from past administrations.

We are here. The Oilers are once again exposed as an organization that is run as a throwback business, refusing to adapt and unaware the world around them has discovered new solutions to problems.

I’ve reached the following conclusion: The next GM is a dead man walking, no matter who it is. I keep mentioning the Jim Devellano book The Road to Hockeytown because there are many parallels. An owner who is aggressive but takes time to learn the nuance of the game and winning; a general manager who makes some of his own mistakes but is also made busy by the work of the owner in areas he shouldn’t be operating; additional help that gives the duo direction and more success; ultimate success. Here’s what it looked like in chronological order:

  • Jim Devellano 1982 to 1990, conference finals in 1987 and 1988 (some Oilers stories with those Red Wings teams).
  • Bryan Murray 1990 to 1994, Red Wings begin the playoff streak that would reach 25 years. Devellano remained in the organization as a vice president.
  • Jim Devellano and Scotty Bowman, 1994 to 1997, this team won the team’s first Stanley in forever.
  • Ken Holland, 1997 to 2018, Stanley Cups in 1998, 2002 and 2008.

Where are the Oilers currently on this map? Incredibly, over a decade into this nonsense, it’s probably at the period where Bryan Murray arrived.

We can discuss Nicholson’s future but it’s likely he remains in his current post and hires the next general manager (and possibly POHO). In Calgary, management has embraced analytics, built a team and is procuring young talent more than capably. Edmonton? Won the lottery.

The Edmonton Oilers are a team in the National Hockey League.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, BigMouthSports. Bob Nicholson’s comments, Oilers down the stretch.
  • Frank Seravalli, TSN. How will the Nicholson comments impact the team, and the future?
  • Matt Iwanyk, TSN1260. Nicholson. I spoke to Iwanyk yesterday about our segment today, suggesting we talk March Madness, Jays, Oil. He said “something’ll come up” and he was right.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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12 percent body fat

anyone else see a pattern in where matt duchene goes the team just falls apart.

flea

36 percent body fat,

Oilers should sign him. I mean, it couldn’t get much worse could it?

Woodguy v2.0

Western Conference Playoff Standings using Points Percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

Pacific
CGY 25
SJS 20
VGK 15

Central
WPG 18
NSH 15
STL 12

Wildcard
DAL 8
COL 4

Out of playoffs
ARI 4
MIN 3
CHI 1
VAN 0
EDM -1
ANA -6
LAK -13

COL wins the tie break on goal diff right now.

Wildcard Relevant games today:

MIN at WSH (WSH -170)

hunter1909

LOL @ “Quite the Night” being a win vs a disorganised and reeling Blue jackets squad in serious need of a coach that the players listen to.

Like I said before, Oilers ain’t that bad of a hockey team. The brace of OHL defencemen scheduled to appear at training camp should at least be considered to be green lit straight into the NHL squad provided they’re up to it. I know, rookies and all that but these are reputedly both blue chip prospects.

Woodguy v2.0

Eastern Conference Playoff Standings using Points Percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

Atlantic
TBY 45
BOS 25
TOR 19

Metropolitan
WSH 20
NYI 17
PIT 16

Wildcard
CAR 14
MTL 11

Out of playoffs
CBJ 10
PHI 6
FLA 4
BUF -2
NYR -4
NJD -12
DET -12
OTT -18

Wildcard Relevant games today: None

Woodguy v2.0

Responding to something from yesterday’s thread:

Jethro Tull: I like that site, but got torched here by another poster for using it to prove something.

I think that was me, although “torched” might be a bit strong. 🙂

Hockey Reference is awesome for everything except fancystats

Historically their fancystats didn’t line up well with the other resources and I think in your particular case you had used their Goals Saved Above Average which, like Natural Stat Trick’s version of the same stat isn’t useful as they don’t take into account shot quality.

I’m sure whose GSAA they were using, but it wasn’t good.

Now however, their GSAA seems to be the same as Evolving Hockey’s GSAA which is a good one imo as it takes into account shot quality.

I would still avoid NST’s GSAA as its just a function of SV% and doesn’t add any context above what SV% gives us so its not a great GSAA.

hunter1909

PS: Can’t anyone teach Nurse to play more like Seth Jones? I got it! Stick him with Bouchard next season.

hunter1909

Re Reidergate:

Any news re the imminent sacking of Nicholson for being an idiot?

LMHF#1

It is amazing that a professional sports franchise can be operated in this manner.

Nicholson should have been fired immediately. Execs in much smaller and less public/noticeable operations have been canned for a lot less…this is ludicrous.

Wonder if these clowns will figure out his name probably shouldn’t be on the damn burger anymore…they haven’t started raining down on the ice – yet.

Jethro Tull

Woodguy v2.0:
Responding to something from yesterday’s thread:

I think that was me, although “torched” might be a bit strong. ?

Hockey Reference is awesome for everything except fancystats

Historically their fancystats didn’tline up well with the other resources and I think in your particular case you had used their Goals Saved Above Average which, like Natural Stat Trick’s version of the same stat isn’t useful as they don’t take into account shot quality.

I’m sure whose GSAA they were using, but it wasn’t good.

Now however, their GSAA seems to be the same as Evolving Hockey’s GSAA which is a good one imo as it takes into account shot quality.

I would still avoid NST’s GSAA as its just a function of SV% and doesn’t add any context above what SV% gives us so its not a great GSAA.

Lol, I promise it wasn’t you and we’re good. It was another person who keeps their own stats though!

Like you, I find stats without context abhorent. They’re just numbers and can be made to mean anything without context. However I branch off at using other numbers that require context as a context for the first ones! (If that makes sense?) I like trying to marry them with what we’re seeing.

I thoroughly enjoy your posts and the sparring. It’s how we make progress….

Jethro Tull

hunter1909:
Re Reidergate:

Any news re the imminent sacking of Nicholson for being an idiot?

Not unless he fires himself.

frjohnk

Woodguy v2.0: I would still avoid NST’s GSAA as its just a function of SV% and doesn’t add any context above what SV% gives us so its not a great GSAA.

Thing is that they have a bunch of the data that could be used to have a good GSAA.

One can manually do a decent GSAA in respect to high danger shots.

jtblack

Woodguy v2.0:
Western Conference Playoff Standings using Points Percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

Pacific
CGY 25
SJS 20
VGK 15

Central
WPG 18
NSH 15
STL 12

Wildcard
DAL 8
COL 4

Out of playoffs
ARI 4
MIN 3
CHI 1
VAN 0
EDM -1
ANA -6
LAK -13

COL wins the tie break on goal diff right now.

Wildcard Relevant games today:

MIN at WSH (WSH -170)

i refuse to die. My belief refuses to go away. I live in distorted reality ….

The longer WC2 sits in the 3 or 4 games above .500; Edmonton still has an OUTSIDE shot ..

LISTEN LINDA. The worst 2 teams in the NHL are coming in next. We have to assume Edmonton wins both those games. If they lose either their slim playoff hopes are officially done. SO even though it won’t be easy, LET’S ASSUME THEY WIN BOTH THOSE GAMES.

That puts them 1 game over .500.

So the MASSIVE GAME becomes Dallas on Thursday. again, assume the Oilers find a way. Then the lowly Ducks come into town.

a 5 – 0 Home Stand, which is possible given the competition that is coming in, would leave Edmonton at 3 Games over .500 with 4 tough games left.

I’M TELLING YOU THERE’S A CHANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

leadfarmer

hunter1909:
PS: Can’t anyone teach Nurse to play more like Seth Jones? I got it! Stick him with Bouchard next season.

Who’s going to play defense?

Durag

I wonder if we’re about to get the rare Katz video message after the regular season. I always enjoy hearing from him like that, brooding in his cavernous mansion, grasping a glass of brandy with his thin, clawlike fingers and a superior smirk on his greedy, soulless face.

leadfarmer

hunter1909:
Re Reidergate:

Any news re the imminent sacking of Nicholson for being an idiot?

The man who ran the audit and came up with Chia as the solution should be the first person to go

LadiesloveSmid

Rieder has the same agent as Hallsy!

Think Edmonton is a hard enough sell?

Throw Nicholson out the damn bus

slopitch

Lets not lose fact in all of this Reider talk that he hired Chai ?

Bag of Pucks

Poor Toby Rieder. He got a taste of Raw Burgers and it was not good. Not good at all.

Somewhere Sheldon Souray is saying, “I told you so.”

Cassandra

Great takedown by Willis. Nicholson is even more incompetent than Chiarelli, which is saying something.

Professor Q

Durag:
I wonder if we’re about to get the rare Katz video message after the regular season. I always enjoy hearing from him like that, brooding in his cavernous mansion, grasping a glass of brandy with his thin, clawlike fingers and a superior smirk on his greedy, soulless face.

“I’ll get you next time, Gadget!”

Bag of Pucks

Nothing is more emblematic of the OBC’s lack of accountability issues than these recurring ‘blame the player’ instances.

It’s never their fault for the lack of talent on the roster. It’s always the fault of the coaches for not getting the most out of the talent, and of course the talent itself for not being ‘championsip material.’

Comrie. Pronger. Souray. Penner. Schultz. Yakupov. Puljujarvi. Lucic. Rieder. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Dustylegnd

Cassandra:
Great takedown by Willis.Nicholson is even more incompetent than Chiarelli, which is saying something.

Like I said previously, Nickel Bob inspired 0 confidence at the “Chia has been fired” presser, Bob had a quiver in his voice, looked like he wanted to cry and was completely unsure of what the future may or may not hold

When you have to consult with every other team executive at the NHL winter meetings on how and who to hire as your next GM…..you are defacto useless and should be persona non gratta…..

Good lord this team is just a running JOKE

Scungilli Slushy

Joe G’s pass off the boards was a beauty, the key to Brodz’ goal, although Brodz’ immediate shot actually hitting a top corner was great.

We don’t see enough of these plays which is a big part of the shot and scoring problem IMO.

Joe G is a keeper IMO. Home grown, cheap and adds an element they lack and has the jam the org seems to have as their first priority, a young Hendricks if you will.

Jethro Tull

leadfarmer: Who’s going to play defense?

Who’s playing it now? (Baddum tish!)

Bag of Pucks

Darryl Katz thought Burgers was a good hire.

Lest we forget.

Pouzar

They’re gonna sign Chiasson for 3 x $3 mil aren’t they?

Cassandra

Bag of Pucks:
Nothing is more emblematic of the OBC’s lack of accountability issues than these recurring ‘blame the player’ instances.

It’s never their fault for the lack of talent on the roster. It’s always the fault of the coaches for not getting the most out of the talent, and of course the talent itself for not being ‘championsip material.’

Comrie. Pronger. Souray. Penner. Schultz. Yakupov. Puljujarvi. Lucic. Rieder. Etc. Etc. Etc.

You know that Nicholson isn’t part of the OBC. I would say this was lazy thinking on your part except that is too kind. It is dishonest. You defended Chiarelli long and hard, making all the same mistakes he and Nicholson did and now you are trying to distance yourself from your own failings, as if this was something you saw all along and is part of one coherent story.

It isn’t a coherent story. And only those who knew what was wrong from the beginning, and said so, have a right to the “I told you so” tack of righteousness.

Your thinking is right in line with the Chiarelli–Nicholson way of thinking. You are on the same team.

Bag of Pucks

Dustylegnd: Like I said previously, Nickel Bob inspired 0 confidence at the “Chia has been fired” presser, Bob had a quiver in his voice, looked like he wanted to cry and was completely unsure of what the future may or may not hold

When you have to consult with every other team executive at the NHL winter meetings on how and who to hire as your next GM…..you are defacto useless and should be persona non gratta…..

Good lord this team is just a running JOKE

I think they officially became a joke when the league had to change the lottery rules to prevent the obvious tank jobs.

HT Joe

LMHF#1: Wonder if these clowns will figure out his name probably shouldn’t be on the damn burger anymore…they haven’t started raining down on the ice – yet.

I figured Bob’s name on a burger was his subtle way of telling the fans “Bite me”

flea

jtblack,

Theorectically the Oilers could be three out Saturday night. Need the wild to lose tonight, the Devils to take down the Coyotes and the Hawks to beat the Avs. And of course- Oilers need to win.

It’s wild that they are still alive. Man if Reider had only scored 10-12 more goals I bet they’d be in a playoff spot right now.

Bag of Pucks

Cassandra: You know that Nicholson isn’t part of the OBC.I would say this was lazy thinking on your part except that is too kind.It is dishonest.You defended Chiarelli long and hard, making all the same mistakes he and Nicholson did and now you are trying to distance yourself from your own failings, as if this was something you saw all along and is part of one coherent story.

It isn’t a coherent story.And only those who knew what was wrong from the beginning, and said so, have a right to the “I told you so” tack of righteousness.

Your thinking is right in line with the Chiarelli–Nicholson way of thinking.You are on the same team.

Burgers is in his own vernacular, “part of the group.” He rubs shoulders with Lowe and Gretzky regularly. That’s how he came in through the Olympic connections.

Scungilli Slushy

Bag of Pucks:
Darryl Katz thought Burgers was a good hire.

Lest we forget.

Same old same old. Bob was hired on rep alone, that he had zero relevant experience didn’t matter, I’m sure they thought he would figure it out. But that meant another key manager learning on the job. And not surprisingly it hasn’t worked out if winning sometime this millennium matters.

Jethro Tull

Pouzar:
They’re gonna sign Chiasson for 3 x $3 mil aren’t they?

It’ll be a consensus decision, but Chia’s fault for one of the things he actually did right. (Take a small bet on a PTO.)

Bag of Pucks

Cassandra: You know that Nicholson isn’t part of the OBC.I would say this was lazy thinking on your part except that is too kind.It is dishonest.You defended Chiarelli long and hard, making all the same mistakes he and Nicholson did and now you are trying to distance yourself from your own failings, as if this was something you saw all along and is part of one coherent story.

It isn’t a coherent story.And only those who knew what was wrong from the beginning, and said so, have a right to the “I told you so” tack of righteousness.

Your thinking is right in line with the Chiarelli–Nicholson way of thinking.You are on the same team.

And you on numerous occasions have been a rabid troll. That’s not forgotten either.

My coherent and consistent story on this is Chiarelli does not deserve sole blame because he was not acting alone in Ops decisions. That’s not how this org functions. But I guess it will take a couple more failed GMs before some people figure that out.

SwedishPoster

36 percent body fat:
anyone else see a pattern in where matt duchene goes the team just falls apart.

He gets his points, his underlying numbers and rels are usually ok but not great. But watching him on the ice he just looks like a player who doesn’t help his team whatsoever. With his talent he’s probably one hell of an assett if he’s the 4th-5th or so best forward on his team but if he’s one of the top guys I think you are in trouble. And at his price tag, especially his future free agent contract, he’s not paid to be anything less.

The Columbus team as a whole sure as hell don’t look like a team that’s gotten a boost from their GM going for it hard at the deadline to be competitive for the Stanley. Not exactly battling for that last spot. Looked more like a bottom of the league team who can’t be bothered for the last stretch before golf season.

OriginalPouzar

Kris Russell – “delayed passing” – he made an excellent stretch pass to McDavid – unfortunately, it took him about a second and half too long and the play was offside. At least he tried, just too slow to process.

Sekera had a wonderful game last night by my eye – ice time getting increased which is nice.

meanashell11

jtblack: i refuse to die. My belief refuses to go away. I live in distorted reality ….

The longer WC2 sits in the 3 or 4 games above .500;Edmonton still has an OUTSIDE shot ..

LISTEN LINDA.The worst 2 teams in the NHL are coming in next.We have to assume Edmonton wins both those games. If they lose either their slim playoff hopes are officially done. SO even though it won’t be easy, LET’S ASSUME THEY WIN BOTH THOSE GAMES.

That puts them 1 game over .500.

So the MASSIVE GAME becomes Dallas on Thursday.again, assume the Oilers find a way. Then the lowly Ducks come into town.

a 5 – 0 Home Stand, which is possible given the competition that is coming in, would leave Edmonton at 3 Games over .500 with 4 tough games left.

I’M TELLING YOU THERE’S A CHANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your lips to God’s ears. I am a believer as well!

JimmyV1965

Wow. The Blue Jackets are not a good team. I thought the GM was reckless at the deadline by keeping Panarin, but I was rooting for the team because it was such a bold aggressive move. But watching them twice since, I think they don’t make the playoffs. And if they do, it will be a very short run.

jtblack

I look at Burger Bob’s comments through a different lens …. I think there was some fact in his statement. Singling out a player was stupid. Full Stop.

But yes, if Rieder had 12 Goals they might be in Playoffs. If Lucic has 17 Goals they might be in the playoffs. They are only 4 wins out of a playoff spot.

So I think the “CORRECT” meaning to Bob’s statement is

“If The GM had constructed the roster with with better players, the group outside of Drai, McD & RNH would most likely have 10 – 25 more Goals. If that was the case, Edmonton would most likely be in a playoff position.”

Réal Goudenyéu

The fish rots from the head. And I don’t mean Burger Bob’s.

giddy

SwedishPoster: He gets his points, his underlying numbers and rels are usually ok but not great. But watching him on the ice he just looks like a player who doesn’t help his team whatsoever. With his talent he’s probably one hell of an assett if he’s the 4th-5th or so best forward on his team but if he’s one of the top guys I think you are in trouble. And at his price tag, especially his future free agent contract, he’s not paid to be anything less.

The Columbus team as a whole sure as hell don’t look like a team that’s gotten a boost from their GM going for it hard at the deadline to be competitive for the Stanley. Not exactly battling for that last spot. Looked more like a bottom of the league team who can’t be bothered for the last stretch before golf season.

I got the same vibe from watching him at times. He can be explosive and skilled, and then other nights he’s just… there.

I didn’t even notice him till the end of the 2nd period last night, where I realized “Oh yeah, they have Duchene”.

HugThePost

it’s definitely true the Oilers are a dinosaur organization that is operating in the past; we’ve seen evidence over and over again of this.

What’s truly sad, pathetic and disheartening is they do not show much sign, if any, that they feel it is a problem. Sure, there are words here and there to placate the masses, but they seem to just shrug their shoulders and begrudgingly cling to their ‘culture’.

We’re so screwed as fans of this team.

OriginalPouzar

Guelph (Samorukov), London (Bouchard), Halifax (Safin) and Drummondville (Rodrigue) all start their playoff series tonight – should be a fun night.

Think Guelph is the game to buy and watch.

Finally the Condors are back in action tonight – haven’t played since last weekend and, after tonight, have another 4 days off until they start 3 games in 4 nights on Wed.

Harvard plays tonight in the Hockey East semi-final – John Marino (although I have a feeling he won’t be signing with the Oilers)

slopitch

Calgary is an interesting study. They were a lottery ball away from trading Svechnikov for Hamonic and looking like a total bust franchise at this point last year. Fast forward a year later and they are 2nd in the league. How did this happen? The first thing they did last summer was trade analytics darling Dougie Hamilton – a move that Dellow himself though was a big win for Carolina https://theathletic.com/406748/2018/06/27/dellow-flames-take-on-risk-for-the-peace-of-mind-of-not-having-dougie-hamilton/. But it worked as one players in the trade Elias Lindholm (another analytics darling) doubles his career high. Goes from undervalued to stud. Some of that is Gaudreau, well maybe most of it. But are the Oilers forwards so bad that neither McDavid nor Drai can drag any other forward over 35 points? Its absolutely mind blowing how bad the supporting cast is.

What else did Calgary do? Its important to note that Calgary had a lot of other things going for them. Most notably Matthew Tkachuk. Our poor beloved Yessie. Le sign. But they have a GM who is continuously adding value to the roster while our bottom 6 is an gd sink hole. Calgary also had a pipeline of quality D – a reason they were able to move Dougie Hamilton. I’d like to look into the numbers and figure out why Hamilton seems to be sort of available in Carolina. Seems that the analytics could be off on him.

The Oilers roster is full of forwards who cant score and D who cant pass. In today’s NHL, moving the puck from the backend is so critical. The Oilers do have a decent pipeline of d prospects so its not dire straights like it is in Ottawa or could be in Columbus. I do think a summer of 4-5 good moves can flip the script on this team but lordy there is a lot of work to be done.

Also where does one buy futures in the Avalanche. Pretty decent team about to add a top 3 pick and Cale Makar.

JimmyV1965

I think the Nicholson comments are getting way blown out of proportion. Hockey mngt types say stupid things all the time. You can’t point to the Reider comments as proof that the organization is poorly run. Two decades of incompetence is proof that the team is poorly run. I remember Shanahan’s comments that players should be willing to take a salary haircut to play on a winning team because that’s what he did back in the day in Detroit. Those comments were ill conceived and went over like a lead balloon. Yet it didn’t reflect on the competence of the organization. For the record, I’m on the fence with Nicholson. I will judge his competence on his next GM hire. And not until then.

fish43

jtblack:
I look at Burger Bob’s comments through a different lens …. I think there was some fact in his statement. Singling out a player was stupid. Full Stop.

But yes, if Rieder had 12 Goals they might be in Playoffs. If Lucic has 17 Goals they might be in the playoffs.They are only 4 wins out of a playoff spot.

So I think the “CORRECT” meaning to Bob’s statement is

“If The GM had constructed the roster with with better players, the group outside of Drai, McD & RNH would most likely have 10 – 25 more Goals. If that was the case, Edmonton would most likely be in a playoff position.”

25 more goals would have them at a goal differential of minus 10. Currently there are no teams in a NHL playoff position with a minus goal differential.

JimmyV1965

Cassandra: You know that Nicholson isn’t part of the OBC.I would say this was lazy thinking on your part except that is too kind.It is dishonest.You defended Chiarelli long and hard, making all the same mistakes he and Nicholson did and now you are trying to distance yourself from your own failings, as if this was something you saw all along and is part of one coherent story.

It isn’t a coherent story.And only those who knew what was wrong from the beginning, and said so, have a right to the “I told you so” tack of righteousness.

Your thinking is right in line with the Chiarelli–Nicholson way of thinking.You are on the same team.

Well, if this is the standard, about 90% of Oiler fans were thrilled when Nicholson hired Chia. There were very few dissenters st the time.

jtblack

fish43: 25 more goals would have them at a goal differential of minus 10.Currently there are no teams in a NHL playoff position with a minus goal differential.

Then they would be the Outlier 😉 .. . Pretty sure if this team had 25 more Goals they would have at least 5 more wins … and be in or very close to in ….

but either way, they don’t have the 25 Goals …

fish43

meanashell11: Your lips to God’s ears. I am a believer as well!

Mathematically sure. But if either Arizona or Colorado go 4-4 in their last 8, the Oilers need to go 7-1. Doesn’t take into account what the Wild, Black Hawks or even Canucks might do either.