Game 76 2018-19: Kings at Oilers

The first game between the Oilers and Kings took place December 22, 1979 in Los Angeles (at the Forum). The Kings scored the first seven goals in the game, but things settled down after Wayne Gretzky scored late in the second period. Final 9-3. The Simmer-Dionne-Taylor line posted 13 points in the game, Eddie Mio going the distance for the visitors.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. INSANE NEW OFFER IS HERE!

  • New Lowetide: What Mark Hunter’s draft record in Toronto means for his Oilers GM candidacy.
  • Lowetide: Colby Cave and Joe Gambardella build late-season resumes with Edmonton.
  • Lowetide: The Oilers made a rare move and shopped the QMJHL at the 2018 draft. It could happen again.
  • Eric Duhatschek: Sorting through the organizational problems in Ottawa and Edmonton.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: After a year of despair, Oilers prospect Cameron Hebig grateful for latest chapter with the Condors
  • Jonathan Willis: Bob Nicholson’s misguided Tobias Rieder comments reveal deeper problems within Oilers management
  • Jonathan Willis: Ken Hitchcock knows why Edmonton has trouble exiting its zone, but lacks the players to fix it.
  • Lowetide: Trimming cap fat and adding speed and skill will shape Oilers’ offseason.
  • Jonathan Willis: Former Canucks architects Mike Gillis and Laurence Gilman should be considered for any vacant NHL GM job
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers draft early, the WHL is loaded and there’s a lot of history.
  • Jonathan Willis: Analyzing how much the Oilers should be willing to spend on pending free agent Alex Chiasson.
  • Jonathan Willis: Keith Gretzky is a legitimate Oilers GM candidate, but would be a hard sell in Edmonton
  • Lowetide: How the Oilers can build a contender during Connor McDavid’s prime.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How Leon Draisaitl has found ‘another level’ by matching offensive wizardry with sound positioning.
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the OHL.

OILERS AFTER 76

  • Oilers in 2015: 29-40-7, 65 points; goal differential -37
  • Oilers in 2016: 42-25-9, 93 points; goal differential +29
  • Oilers in 2017: 34-36-6, 73 points; goal differential -30
  • Oilers in 2018: 33-34-8, 74 points; goal differential -27

OILERS IN MARCH

  • Oilers in March 2016: 6-6-0, 12 points; goal differential -3
  • Oilers in March 2017: 8-3-1, 17 points; goal differential +16
  • Oilers in March 2018: 7-4-1, 15 points; goal differential +9
  • Oilers in March 2019: 6-4-1, 13 points; goal differential -2

WHAT TO EXPECT IN MARCH

  • On the road to: Columbus, Buffalo (Expected 0-1-1) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • At home to: Vancouver, Toronto, NY Rangers, NJD (Expected 2-1-1) (Actual 2-2-0)
  • On the road to: Arizona, Vegas, St. Louis (Expected: 0-2-1) (Actual 1-2-0)
  • At home to: Columbus,Ottawa, Los Angeles, Dallas, Anaheim (Expected: 3-1-1) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • Overall expected result: 5-5-4, 14 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 6-4-1, 13 points in 11 games

OILERS FORWARDS IN MARCH

  • The stretch run for 97 is traditionally absolute fire and we see it again this season.
  • Leon Draisaitl joins him, it’s an impressive run for both, galling it will not result in a playoff series.
  • Zack Kassian is delivering this month, the best since the playoffs April 2017.
  • Joe Gambardella is getting his chance and things are looking good good (very) early.
  • Nuge is on the opposite of a heater. A hooter?
  • Sam Gagner has been useful since his arrival.

OILERS DEFENSE IN MARCH (vs. elites)

  • This is DFF percentage of overall time by defenseman and then DFF percentage. All defensive numbers versus elites.
  • DFF is “Dangerous Fenwick,”, a weighted shot metric that takes into account the distance and type of unblocked shot at the net and applies the probability of that type of shot becoming a goal. (Described here).
  • Oscar Klefbom and Adam Larsson are very close in both percentage of minutes and DFF.
  • Darnell Nurse is not far off in terms of actual percentage, but isn’t in the same range in DFF.
  • Kris Russell is the distinct No. 4 in the group, it’s interesting to compare his numbers with John Gravel.
  • Andrej Sekera is getting sheltered, Benning less so over the long season. Both clearly third pairing.
  • My question: If you elevated Benning with Nurse and moved Russell down, would Benning post a better number vs. elites?

LUCK

My article at The Athletic today (about Mark Hunter) is about luck, or at least partly about it. I’ve been thinking about great lines of my lifetime (no, not “I’ll have what she’s having”) and how much luck is involved in forming successful trios.

Marcel Dionne came over from Detroit in June of 1975, the Red Wings botching a contract with its young star. Jack Kent Cooke, the owner of LAK, signed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar the week before he signed Dionne as a free agent. In those days, you could sign away a player but would have to give compensation.

Charlie Simmer was drafted by the California Golden Seals, who released him when he was still in the minors (Seals were in Cleveland and called the Barons by that time). Simmer arrived in LA and it didn’t take long for him to show enough scoring touch to play higher on the depth chart. He scored 50+ goals twice and would have had many more if he could have stayed healthy.

Dave Taylor was drafted from Clarkson College, in the fifteenth round in 1975. He was listed at 6.0, 160 on draft day, but put on weight (he played at 195) and emerged as a power forward. When he arrived in 1977, the ingredients for the Triple Crown Line (although they wouldn’t get together for good until January 1979) were in place.

So, it was several years and two strokes of luck (plus I think Bob Berry) to get the line together. Modern times don’t have lines so much as pairs, I think 97-29 is going to be a pair every season (at least part of the time) throughout the Edmonton careers of these two men. It’s impossible to resist. Clearly.

OILERS PROSPECT TREE 2019 SPRING

  • This is an important time of year for lots of these kids. Edmonton needs to make a decision by mid-August on Hawkey, Desharnais and Dudek, or they can walk as free agents. Hawkey is the key.
  • The two players I see as vitally important signings are Ryan McLeod and John Marino. Both men are legit NHL prospects and both men are now in the range of ‘some exposure’ to not signing with the team.
  • I would also like to see Filip Berglund, Olivier Rodrigue and Anton Slepyshev signed. What’s your list?

I’m a big fan of Button, primarily because he has the courage of his convictions. His list is fire this year. I love it.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260, we have a great guest list and a new menu! Scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, The Athletic. Oilers GM search, does anything matter now in terms of what we see on the ice?
  • Simon Boisvert, Prospect Insider. We have a look at the 2019 draft.

We’ll also have a basketball guest, still booking show. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you at 10!

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  1. flyfish1168 says:

    To trade RNH to Buffalo it would have to be Ristolainen and Mittelstadt to start the conversation.

  2. JimmyV1965 says:

    Ben:
    One of my pet peeves is people pretending to knowledge about the skills or idiosyncrasies of GMs and other front-officers.

    That said, here’s some “fan”-fiction about Peter Chiarelli.

    We’ve all heard the verbal about how he isolated himself from his advisors over the past couple of years. Why would he isolate himself?

    Well, he comes into Edmonton heading into the easiest first pick of his or anyone’s life. He needs D, and the Oilers’ Good Hockey Men assure him they have just the guy. They burn 16 and 33.

    If they make a better trade with those picks, they get a plug and play 2-4 RD.

    And if they do that maybe he doesn’t feel forced into losing a Taylor Hall trade. And so on.

    The team has one good year, then falls off a cliff. A big chunk of that failure’s DNA goes right back to that first, absolutely awful Reinhart trade.

    So why didn’t he just fire the Griffin-dorks?

    Probably because you can’t do it after winning 1.9 playoff series, and he was probably on thin enough ice the year after he lacked the authority.

    Anyhow, from that hypothetical, you’d isolate yourself too.

    I suspect this narrative about Chia acting alone is an attempt by the team to deflect blame away from the guys still working for the team. I’m not buying it.

  3. hunter1909 says:

    I’ve decided to pretend that this is the first game of the season.

    As an Oilers fan this is no great stretch lol

  4. hunter1909 says:

    JimmyV1965: I suspect this narrative about Chia acting alone is an attempt by the team to deflect blame away from the guys still working for the team. I’m not buying it.

    Chiarelli appears during the Tyler Seguin Boston trade as an executive far too fixated on getting everyone to nod their heads in agreement than anything approaching leadership.

    You can bet that Lowe+MacT were all in during the Taylor Hall getting run out of town fiasco. The creeps.

  5. Munny says:

    Gotsta shoot there, Bad Seed

  6. frjohnk says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Larsson is having a poor year.

    Larsson’s goal share with and without McDavid has been good until this year.

    Throwing away a 26 year old Dman due to a poor year is not smart.

    Larsson’s PDO this year is 965 with a 5.65 SH%, which he doesn’t influence one iota.

    Larsson’s PDO previous 3 years is 999, 1017 and 1022

    Larsson’s GF% previous 3 years is 50%, 56.4% and 56.7%

    PDO was discovered by Oiler Fan Brian King who was known as “PDO” here and on IOF.

    He wondered why players the Oilers traded away always seemed to rebound elsewhere.

    The answer was they got traded due to low PDO.

    Moving Larsson due to low PDO would be a terrible decision.

    I thought it was maybe because of Talbot but…
    Larsson GA/60 with Talbot was 2.76
    Larsson GA/60 with Mikko is 2.98

    Larsson GA/60 when with Klefbom is 2.22 ( which is decent for who they play against, problem is the GF/60 is a putrid 1.28. A GF% of 37%

    Larsson GA/60 is 4.00 without Klefbom. This has been in 540 minutes. So not a small sample.

    Larsson GA/60 is 4.01 with Nurse in 263 minutes. A GF% of 36%.

    Klefbom, Larsson, McDavid 355 minutes ( so with 1st line)
    GF/60 of 2.32
    GA/60 of 3.38

    Larsson, RNH WO McDavid or Drai 122 minutes ( so 2nd line when Drai and McDavid 1st)
    GF/60 of 1.32
    GA/60 of 2.91

    Larsson playing with bottom 6 forwards ( no RNH, McDavid or Drai on the ice)
    GF/60 of 1.1
    GA/60 of 2.07

    Numbers are not good anywhere. PDO hooter I guess.

    Is hooter a hockey word now?

  7. OriginalPouzar says:

    flyfish1168:
    3 goals no Mcdavid points

    Which is what the team needs more of.

  8. Genjutsu says:

    So I guess this run with Sekera has reinforced my idea about the team. A playoff team but not a championship team unless they got unreal goaltending. Then Sekera got hurt and it became a non playoff team.

    Perhaps a manager more connected with the modern game would have been able make the necessary adjustments to salvage the season.

    I honestly don’t see why people are frustrated. We knew what this was in the summer.

  9. Munny says:

    Nuge decides to pee straight into a hat.

  10. Gerta Rauss says:

    hehe….that’s my boy Nuge!

  11. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nuge finishes off the first period hatty – I think that may be his first hatty since that game in his rookie season (early in the year too, I think against Colorado).

    There is the McDavid point.

  12. hunter1909 says:

    I’d really hate to be a bald dude at the game right now. Someone tears your hat off for you to toss on the ice.

  13. Munny says:

    If I’m the Kings I’m not sure I start Quick in the 2nd.

  14. hunter1909 says:

    Genjutsu: I honestly don’t see why people are frustrated. We knew what this was in the summer.

    Nice one. Wait until the last part of the season to start talking about last summer.

    20/20 hindsight!

  15. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide:

    Nuge is on the opposite of a heater. A hooter?

    Maybe in October you can talk about Lucic’s, Khaira’s, Brodziak’s and Currie’s hooters?

  16. flyfish1168 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Which is what the team needs more of.

    +1

  17. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar: The identification of a 2RD as a (the) primary priority is easy (and has been for years but, yes, of course, easier said than done which is part of the reason why the coach really needs to try some experimenting with the existing pairings. There is really zero reason not to – at least not a reason that I can think of.

    Agreed

  18. hunter1909 says:

    Wtf was that Draisaitl laughing and joking en route to the dressing room???

  19. OriginalPouzar says:

    flyfish1168:
    To trade RNHto Buffalo it would have to be Ristolainen and Mittelstadt to start the conversation.

    Whoa, now we’re getting a little out there….

  20. Lowetide says:

    After One:

    5-1 Oilers
    12-11 LAK shots
    26-16 LAK Corsi 5-on-5

    Yeah. Trade Nuge.

  21. Lowetide says:

    OriginalPouzar: Maybe in October you can talk about Lucic’s, Khaira’s, Brodziak’s and Currie’s hooters?

    Makes a note…

  22. BONE207 says:

    Ok…who are the impostors in Orange!!!

    Nugey having lunch at Hooters in preparation for this game.
    I think we want 10.

  23. flyfish1168 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Whoa, now we’re getting a little out there….

    I was really thinking a 3 for 1. The other piece would be their 1st rounder. lol

  24. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar: Whoa, now we’re getting a little out there….

    If Nuge gets five we should be able to get Eichel in the deal as well.

  25. OriginalPouzar says:

    BONE207:
    Ok…who are the impostors in Orange!!!

    QOC matters…..

  26. flyfish1168 says:

    Reja: If Nuge gets five we should be able to get Eichel in the deal as well.

    And they would have to retain half his salary. 🙂

  27. Durag says:

    Looks like goal difference’s back on the menu boys

  28. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nuge is having himself a game – is that absolute confirmation that he reads this blog?

  29. Bulging Twine says:

    ” I’ve heard that Gillis’s name has been brought up for an interview,
    A- although not everyone is thrilled with the idea.
    B- I’ve also heard he’s indicated he wouldn’t consider the Oilers without being able to make significant changes. ”

    A because of B

  30. who says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Beauty defensive play down low by Kassian – may have saved a goal.

    This is close to “what a player”.

    This is a good 6 weeks plus of hockey that would make $1.95M look like a value deal.

    Consistency has always been an issue for Zack but I don’t think he’s ever put together a 6 plus week stretch of games like this, not as an Oiler. – he wasn’t this good in the playoffs either.

    But I thought we were supposed to leave him on the 4th line.
    Because that’s where he’s most effective.
    Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

  31. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Joe G wants to score soooo bad watching the replay of him watching his chance.

    I used to comment that is exactly what many players lacked – hunger to score.

    Of course you have to do the work both ways to get into that position, I think Joe is exactly the ‘culture” they need. Go hard. play well, attack the net with everything.

  32. OriginalPouzar says:

    Peter Draisaitl was fired as the head coach of Kölner Haie earlier this year – should he be in the running for coach? Maybe POHO or GM?

  33. OriginalPouzar says:

    I think that was Nuge’s first PK faceoff win of the year……. heater!

  34. hunter1909 says:

    Trade for Doughty please.

  35. OriginalPouzar says:

    Won’t blame Koskinen on that one (who actually has settled down since early in the first for a change).

  36. Nit64 says:

    hunter1909:
    I’ve decided to pretend that this is the first game of the season.

    As an Oilers fan this is no great stretch lol

    ~ Nuge on pace for a 738 goal season ~

  37. hunter1909 says:

    Bulging Twine:
    ” I’ve heard that Gillis’s name has been brought up for an interview,
    A- although not everyone is thrilled with the idea.
    B- I’ve also heard he’s indicated he wouldn’t consider the Oilers without being able to make significant changes. ”

    A because of B

    Gillis, who built those whiny Vancouver Canucks who got bitch slapped in the Finals by Boston?

  38. hunter1909 says:

    Nit64: ~ Nuge on pace for a 738 goal season ~

    Gold Star response!

  39. Nailer Yakumoto says:

    Interesting that you wear the protective equipment after you get injured, but not before. Makes sense.

  40. Munny says:

    Geez, about time Connor, lol.

  41. OriginalPouzar says:

    That was a nice goal by McDavid – another powerful rush by Drai up the ice who gets yet a little bit closer to 100.

  42. hunter1909 says:

    Hopefully there’s a bloodbath in the 3rd when LAK decide they’re getting humiliated.

  43. hunter1909 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    That was a nice goal by McDavid – another powerful rush by Drai up the ice who gets yet a little bit closer to 100.

    If only he smiled more.

  44. Munny says:

    And they keep coming. Drai is also having a helluva game.

  45. OriginalPouzar says:

    and there is Drai with his 45th goal and 98th point.

    McDavid up to 110 or 11 now?

    Another point for Nurse in the quest for 40.

  46. hunter1909 says:

    The gleam in Draisaitl’s eye after scoring that goal = Priceless!!

  47. OriginalPouzar says:

    ArmchairGM:

    March 25, 2019 at 9:01 pm
    Leon Draisaitl hasn’t scored a goal in 3 games now, and has just 2 in his last 9. And now he’s lost his #2 spot in the Richard race, because Tavares scored 4 tonight. Leon needs a hat trick tomorrow against the Kings to regain his position… stay tuned!

    Every goal, assist and point Draisaitl posts will be a new career high.

    Every assist or point McDavid scores will be a career high. He needs 3 goals to reach his career high of 41.

    Every goal or point Nugent-Hopkins scores will be a new career high. He needs 1 more assist to tie his career high.

    Lots of reasons to watch and cheer tomorrow night

    Hmmmmmm…..

  48. Nix says:

    Never took the ‘draisaitl as malkin’ meme literally but funny how he’s routinely scoring galloping end to end goals that look awfully familiar.

  49. flyfish1168 says:

    When was the last time a team had 2 players with hat tricks in the same game?

  50. hunter1909 says:

    Best game of the season lol

  51. Johnny skid says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Won’t blame Koskinen on that one (who actually has settled down since early in the first for a change).

    thats very kind of you.

  52. BONE207 says:

    CONNOR & Drai going to load up & set all kind of records tonight.
    Can’t believe there is 25 minutes to go.
    I could watch this kind of hockey on a regular basis.
    Now about that draft lottery…

  53. OriginalPouzar says:

    who: But I thought we were supposed to leave him on the 4th line.
    Because that’s where he’s most effective.
    Sorry.Couldn’t resist.

    Yup – and I’ve eaten crow on that over the last few weeks, happily.

  54. OriginalPouzar says:

    That’s a weak one on Koskinen.

  55. hunter1909 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    That’s a weak one on Koskinen.

    At 7 goals in 2 periods I wouldn’t worry.

  56. hunter1909 says:

    Kings so want to goon this one up.

    The only saving grace of Chiarelli was making the Oilers tough.

  57. Nit64 says:

    hunter1909:
    Best game of the season lol

    ~ They really step up their game when the snow is off the greens ~

  58. Nit64 says:

    hunter1909: At 7 goals in 2 periods I wouldn’t worry.

    Prediction: Drai gets an empty net hat trick.

  59. Munny says:

    Okay, this looks more like the hockey team we know.

  60. Gerta Rauss says:

    hunter1909: At 7 goals in 2 periods I wouldn’t worry.

    LOL…you’d think that, but I’m not convinced this one is over yet

  61. hunter1909 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    That’s a weak one on Koskinen.

    Pull him for the 3rd!

  62. Georgexs says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Larsson is having a poor year.

    Larsson’s goal share with and without McDavid has been good until this year.

    Throwing away a 26 year old Dman due to a poor year is not smart.

    Larsson’s PDO this year is 965 with a 5.65 SH%, which he doesn’t influence one iota.

    Larsson’s PDO previous 3 years is 999, 1017 and 1022

    Larsson’s GF% previous 3 years is 50%, 56.4% and 56.7%

    PDO was discovered by Oiler Fan Brian King who was known as “PDO” here and on IOF.

    He wondered why players the Oilers traded away always seemed to rebound elsewhere.

    The answer was they got traded due to low PDO.

    Moving Larsson due to low PDO would be a terrible decision.

    It’s like we’ve never talked before.

    Glad you convinced me not to trade Larsson. I was right there.

    I was actually wondering how he’s looked. Eye test stuff.

  63. Reja says:

    Nix:
    Never took the ‘draisaitl as malkin’ meme literally but funny how he’s routinely scoring galloping end to end goals that look awfully familiar.

    Never to late to JUMP on the LEON TRAIN on the Mel’s Rock Pile show.

  64. yeraslob says:

    First time posting. Good stuff here, posts are enjoyable.

  65. hunter1909 says:

    I’ve been saying all along that Draisaitl has Jean Beliveau style ability.

  66. hunter1909 says:

    McDavid + Draisaitl remind me a little of 1987 Canada Cup Gretzky + Lemieux.

  67. who says:

    OriginalPouzar: Yup – and I’ve eaten crow on that over the last few weeks, happily.

    Well, the law of averages says, that when you have an opinion on everything, you’re going to be wrong once in a while. LOL.
    Here’s hoping I will have to eat crow on the cost of trading Lucic.

  68. ArmchairGM says:

    hunter1909: At 7 goals in 2 periods I wouldn’t worry.

    Famous last words.

  69. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    Oilers 111, Kings 108

    Oilers 7, Kings 4 (3-2 LAK in the second)
    Shots 26-22 LAK (14-11 LAK in the second)
    Corsi 5-on-5 39-34 LAK (18-13 Edmonton in the second)

    This team is as loose as Crazy Horse at the Fillmore, and don’t turn off your set!

  70. Georgexs says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Larsson is having a poor year.

    Larsson’s goal share with and without McDavid has been good until this year.

    Throwing away a 26 year old Dman due to a poor year is not smart.

    Larsson’s PDO this year is 965 with a 5.65 SH%, which he doesn’t influence one iota.

    Larsson’s PDO previous 3 years is 999, 1017 and 1022

    Larsson’s GF% previous 3 years is 50%, 56.4% and 56.7%

    PDO was discovered by Oiler Fan Brian King who was known as “PDO” here and on IOF.

    He wondered why players the Oilers traded away always seemed to rebound elsewhere.

    The answer was they got traded due to low PDO.

    Moving Larsson due to low PDO would be a terrible decision.

    By the way, who were the rebounding former Oiler players that led to the PDO discovery?

    How many slumping players did we trade back then that found success elsewhere?

  71. Paulie says:

    Lowetide,

    Yeah but Neil McDavid will guide em home

  72. OriginalPouzar says:

    who: Well, the law of averages says, that when you have an opinion on everything, you’re going to be wrong once in a while. LOL.
    Here’s hoping I will have to eat crow on the cost of trading Lucic.

    Yes, I have opinions on the Oilers – feel this is an appropriate place to state and discuss them.

  73. hunter1909 says:

    Gagner getting bullied by the Kings defenceman.

  74. OriginalPouzar says:

    Were all three of the Kings goals in the 2nd on the PP?

    Geez, this team actually plays well at evens most of the time – the top line is dynamic, the 2nd line can produce and the bottom two lines are responsible so quite low event. That damn PK.

  75. yeraslob says:

    Koski with a glove save on Brown, flashing the leather, lol

  76. hunter1909 says:

    Draisaitl needs another goal to round off my personal prediction for tonight’s game.

  77. Younger Oil says:

    Kings have gotten away with at least 5 two handers this game.

    I hate how reffing changes based on the score of the game, or the time in the season.

  78. hunter1909 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Were all three of the Kings goals in the 2nd on the PP?

    Geez, this team actually plays well at evens most of the time – the top line is dynamic, the 2nd line can produce and the bottom two lines are responsible so quite low event.That damn PK.

    Add: having a defence the NHL needs not fear.

  79. hunter1909 says:

    Younger Oil:
    Kings have gotten away with at least 5 two handers this game.

    I hate how reffing changes based on the score of the game, or the time in the season.

    Not so fast. Without the refs Vancouver wins the cup with that diving team back in 2011.

  80. OriginalPouzar says:

    Would have been nice for Joe G. to bury that – tough not to cheer for that guy.

  81. hunter1909 says:

    Oiler’s defence is the Walter Matthau of the NHL.

  82. Nit64 says:

    flyfish1168:
    When was the last time a team had 2 players with hat tricks in the same game?

    Don’t know. They say the last time for the Oil is ’85 . Against LA.

  83. yeraslob says:

    More Nuge pts please (helps with the hockey pool).

  84. hunter1909 says:

    Kevin Lowe on LAK TV – looks just like my Irish alkie Uncle.

  85. John Chambers says:

    Can Nuge please get a couple more so that someone wins a cool million in the Safeway Score and Win?

  86. hunter1909 says:

    Lowe’s nose is as red as a fire engine.

  87. OriginalPouzar says:

    Kass taking a shift with Brodz and Lucic – not sure why.

  88. OriginalPouzar says:

    Chiasson gets the spot on the top line.

    Hitch switching them up notwithstanding the 3 goal third period lead.

  89. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Trying to do what he should be doing with the defence. Creating chemistry and gaining insight for next year.

  90. OriginalPouzar says:

    Where did Larsson take that bomb?

    Did not look good.

  91. Lowetide says:

    Larsson took that in a bad spot.

  92. Professor Q says:

    One has to love the ref not caring that Larsson was injured, and just shoved him to make him get off the ice faster.

  93. hunter1909 says:

    Tonight’s game should convince the OBC that the team is ready to compete next season.

    *runs away*

  94. OriginalPouzar says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey: Walter Matthau

    Except he put Chiasson with McDavid/Drai which has had plenty of opportunity this year – and doesn’t work.

  95. BONE207 says:

    Nit64: ~ Nuge on pace for a 738 goal season ~

    Oilers win first game of the new season &, lose half their defense in the win for the rest of the season . Lose 77 games & nobody but CONNOR, Drai & Nugey score. It could happen…

  96. OriginalPouzar says:

    Now Joe G. with a shift on the top line.

    I think someone might be hurt – Currie?

  97. Lowetide says:

    Leon scored. Again.

  98. Professor Q says:

    “Connor McDavid isn’t good defensively.”

    Connor McDavid is 4th in takeaways.

  99. OriginalPouzar says:

    Drai’s first career hatty. Goal number 46. Two hatty’s in one game.

    Joe G. with another assist.

  100. hunter1909 says:

    Finally!!

  101. Gerta Rauss says:

    Leon with his 46th

    8-4 with 2 min to go

    I’m gonna go ahead and call this one now

  102. flyfish1168 says:

    2 players with a Hattie

  103. deardylan says:

    Just tuning in…did i miss anything?

  104. OriginalPouzar says:

    Drai now 2nd in the NHL in goals….

  105. Gerta Rauss says:

    Reider stoned from slot

    Of course he was Lol

  106. Nit64 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Drai now 2nd in the NHL in goals….

    4 to 50 with 6 games. Ovechkin at 49.

  107. Nit64 says:

    deardylan:
    Just tuning in…did i miss anything?

    ~ Reider did not score tonight. Nothing else of much interest tonight. ~

  108. Professor Q says:

    John Cooper looks extremely uncomfortable. I think he may have choked a bit there.

  109. Younger Oil says:

    Fans chanting “Let’s go Reider”.

    Best fans in the league.

    Worst management in the league, but classy, classy fans.

  110. yeraslob says:

    Professor Q:
    One has to love the ref not caring that Larsson was injured, and just shoved him to make him get off the ice faster.

    Ref’s a bastard!

  111. Jaxon says:

    If, at the start of the season, someone had told me that McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, Kassian, Chiasson, and Nurse were all going to have career years for production, I would have said, “Woohoo, we’re going to the playoffs!” Such a strange season.

  112. Professor Q says:

    Rieder almost scores with just a few seconds left. That was almost a great storybook ending to an excellent game.

  113. JimmyV1965 says:

    yeraslob:
    More Nuge pts please (helps with the hockey pool).

    Drai is killing me in my pool. He keeps frickin scoring. I was in the lead by 17 tonight, but the guy in second had Drai. He’s knocked it down to 13 in one game. No one scores in the last couple weeks so you think you’re safe, but…

  114. Jaxon says:

    Nurse Update after 2 point game.

    Nurse now has 55 pts at 5v5 in his last 171GP since March 14, 2017. That’s good for 10th.

    1 – Burns 70
    2 – Rielly 68
    3 – Giordano – 65
    4 – Carlson – 64
    5 – Josi – 64
    6 – Karlsson – 62
    7 – Klingberg – 58
    8 – Spurgeon – 56
    9 – Hamilton – 56
    10 – Nurse – 55
    11 – Hedman – 55
    12 – Gardiner – 55
    13 – Muzzin – 55
    14 – Pietrangelo – 54
    15 – Barrie – 53
    16 – Keith – 52
    17 – Orlov – 51
    18 – Manson – 51
    19 – Jones – 51

    He’s also 30th (among players with over 2000 minutes played) with 1.01 5v5 pts/60. Tied with Gostisbehere and Krug in that time frame. #33 Jones, #48 Subban, #45 Provorov, #51 Ekholm, #52 Theodore, #56 Ekblad, #66 Byfuglien.

  115. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Drai now 2nd in the NHL in goals….

    lazy 🐙

  116. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Drai’s first career hatty.Goal number 46.Two hatty’s in one game.

    Joe G. with another assist.

    Drai did have hatty in playoffs. I didn’t throw my hat. Douche.

  117. Rebillled says:

    6 games left for Reider to score 1 goal.

    I’m guessing he doesn’t do it, but with the teams left..

    I’m guessing Dallas.

  118. Scungilli Slushy says:

    hunter1909:
    Kevin Lowe on LAK TV – looks just like my Irish alkie Uncle.

    The NHL is replete with alcoholics, like everywhere I suppose. Especially retired players who have a lot of money and free time, and glory to relive.

    The thing I regret is it’s bad for them personally, relationaly and physically, the thing I admire is that they got themselves in a place where they can drink their faces off, afford it, and hang out with others able to do it, in fancy places and fancy digs.

    If being a drunk ruled people out, there’d be a lot more opportunities out there. Probably not in an NHL capacity though. I’m pissed off with all of the people on ‘doctor’s meds’, sneaking under the radar and off their faces, driving under the influence, wreaking havoc, etc etc. So many fish to fry in the personal fails pan.

  119. JimmyV1965 says:

    JimmyV1965,

    I’m the douche. Not Drai.

  120. Munny says:

    That was a most enjoyable affair.

    First double trick since Kurri and Coffey in 1985 per TSN.

  121. hunter1909 says:

    Scungilli Slushy: The NHL is replete with alcoholics, like everywhere I suppose. Especially retired players who have a lot of money and free time, and glory to relive.

    The thing I regret is it’s bad for them personally, relationaly and physically, the thing I admire is that they got themselves in a place where they can drink their faces off, afford it, and hang out with others able to do it, in fancy places and fancy digs.

    If being a drunk ruled people out, there’d be a lot more opportunities out there. Probably not in an NHL capacity though. I’m pissed off with all of the people on ‘doctor’s meds’, sneaking under the radar and off their faces, driving under the influence, wreaking havoc, etc etc. So many fish to fry in the personal fails pan.

    Drunkards are dangerous because 1- they don’t learn anything new ever

    I drink on occasion, and sometimes even too much, so I’m not trying to set myself up as any kind of moral authority here.

    Kevin Lowe’s expression clearly shows he has no idea that the team he presides over has missed the playoffs 12 out of the last 13 seasons. Personally I’d rather get up at 4 AM and do Chinese Martial Arts than wake up with a hangover every day like alcoholics do. Also, it’s better to not be drunk because then you know you’re not making everyone else around you miserable.

    It appears that Oilers management are nothing but piss heads. They haven’t “earned it” anymore than any alcoholic bumming money outside the liquor stores.

  122. JimmyV1965 says:

    Oilers score eight goals. Get one point from the bottom six forwards. And that was Gambardella playing with Drai and McDavid.

  123. Munny says:

    Reider will score in the first period of the next game.

    Böök¡je it!

  124. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Jaxon:
    Nurse Update after 2 point game.

    Nurse now has 55 pts at 5v5 in his last 171GP since March 14, 2017. That’s good for 10th.

    1 – Burns 70
    2 – Rielly 68
    3 – Giordano – 65
    4 – Carlson – 64
    5 – Josi – 64
    6 – Karlsson – 62
    7 – Klingberg – 58
    8 – Spurgeon – 56
    9 – Hamilton – 56
    10 – Nurse – 55
    11 – Hedman – 55
    12 – Gardiner – 55
    13 – Muzzin – 55
    14 – Pietrangelo – 54
    15 – Barrie – 53
    16 – Keith – 52
    17 – Orlov – 51
    18 – Manson – 51
    19 – Jones – 51

    He’s also 30th (among players with over 2000 minutes played) with 1.01 5v5 pts/60. Tied with Gostisbehere and Krug in that time frame. #33 Jones, #48 Subban, #45 Provorov, #51 Ekholm, #52 Theodore, #56 Ekblad, #66 Byfuglien.

    Damn… he’s gonna get PAID!!!

    Like, in the realm of $7M+ if he keeps this up. Can’t afford him. Hate to say it, but it might be in the Oilers best interests to cash in on him in the summer. This is where we all say that chia screwed us again by signing the wrong players to overpriced contracts preventing the oilers from signing him to a long term contract in the range of $5M AAV.

    The gifts that keep on giving… becauseoilers.

  125. yeraslob says:

    JimmyV1965: Drai is killing me in my pool. He keeps frickin scoring. I was in the lead by 17 tonight, but the guy in second had Drai. He’s knocked it down to 13 in one game. No one scores in the last couple weeks so you think you’re safe, but…

    The pool I entered is not a draft, anyone can pick the same players, i.e, all would have McDavid. 1st is 20 grand. I’m not in the running, lol. But I could get my money back.

  126. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    yeraslob: The pool I entered is not a draft, anyone can pick the same players, i.e, all would have McDavid. 1st is 20 grand.I’m not in the running, lol.But I could get my money back.

    So was anyone “crazy” enough to pick both McDavid AND Draisaitl?
    How about the Kuch and Kane? Anyone choose all four???

  127. Reja says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: Damn… he’s gonna get PAID!!!

    Like, in the realm of $7M+ if he keeps this up. Can’t afford him. Hate to say it, but it might be in the Oilers best interests to cash in on him in the summer. This is where we all say that chia screwed us again by signing the wrong players to overpriced contracts preventing the oilers from signing him to a long term contract in the range of $5M AAV.

    The gifts that keep on giving… becauseoilers.

    Sell high the return for Nurse will in my opinion be at its highest this offseason.

  128. Scungilli Slushy says:

    hunter1909: Drunkards are dangerous because 1- they don’t learn anything new ever

    I drink on occasion, and sometimes even too much, so I’m not trying to set myself up as any kind of moral authority here.

    Kevin Lowe’s expression clearly shows he has no idea that the team he presides over has missed the playoffs 12 out of the last 13 seasons. Personally I’d rather get up at 4 AM and do Chinese Martial Arts than wake up with a hangover every day like alcoholics do. Also, it’s better to not be drunk because then you know you’re not making everyone else around you miserable.

    It appears that Oilers management are nothing but piss heads. They haven’t “earned it” anymore than any alcoholic bumming money outside the liquor stores.

    You seem to have some buttons around this issue, I commiserate, I do as well. I think there are many folks who look like drunks that aren’t functioning well in the org just going by the eyes, behaviour and ‘bloom’. Kretzky and Woodcroft look pretty together to me.

    Sometimes I want to make a comment about sweaty greasy looking managers, who seem like they came to work without a shower, that seem like they’d rather be driving the big white bus, or tipping a few before lunch, than speaking to media and the fans.

    But most people don’t care, don’t notice, and the personal attacks bring everyone down, bring the community down. Nothing we can do about the ‘drunks’ from where we sit, other than hoping they pick higher functioning types, if they’re going to be around and in our faces, for those that are even suspicious about it or even care in the first place.

  129. pts2pndr says:

    Reja: Sell high the return for Nurse will in my opinion be at its highest this offseason.

    Maybe the team should go all in and move McDavid and Draisaitl too.

  130. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Nurse would probably play a more developed game with a better partner. Maybe Russell has done the team a solid without meaning to.

  131. Ribs says:

    Jaxon:
    Nurse Update after 2 point game.

    Nurse now has 55 pts at 5v5 in his last 171GP since March 14, 2017. That’s good for 10th.

    1 – Burns 70
    2 – Rielly 68
    3 – Giordano – 65
    4 – Carlson – 64
    5 – Josi – 64
    6 – Karlsson – 62
    7 – Klingberg – 58
    8 – Spurgeon – 56
    9 – Hamilton – 56
    10 – Nurse – 55
    11 – Hedman – 55
    12 – Gardiner – 55
    13 – Muzzin – 55
    14 – Pietrangelo – 54
    15 – Barrie – 53
    16 – Keith – 52
    17 – Orlov – 51
    18 – Manson – 51
    19 – Jones – 51

    He’s also 30th (among players with over 2000 minutes played) with 1.01 5v5 pts/60. Tied with Gostisbehere and Krug in that time frame. #33 Jones, #48 Subban, #45 Provorov, #51 Ekholm, #52 Theodore, #56 Ekblad, #66 Byfuglien.

    Impressive. I hope his agent stays clear of this post.

  132. Sierra says:

    pts2pndr: Maybe the team should go all in and move McDavid and Draisaitl too.

    The difference being that McDavid and Drai are locked up long term.

  133. Reja says:

    pts2pndr: Maybe the team should go all in and move McDavid and Draisaitl too.

    Those are my 2 untouchable’s thank goodness Peter Puck doesn’t own the team.

  134. Soup Fascist says:

    hunter1909:
    Best game of the season lol

    …. and a blind man in the bleachers.

  135. Todd Macallan says:

    Todd Macallan:
    First game for the gf at Rogers tonight, let hope it’s not a stinker!

    Welp, not a stinker. What a fun game to see live. The Reider chant at the end was genuine and a great moment, if he had buried that chance at the end the place would’ve erupted.

    As an aside, the in game experience there was fantastic, think someone mentioned a few threads back that it was poor. The gf was not that interested in the game but had a blast with everything else going on there. Great night!

  136. Reja says:

    Sierra: The difference being that McDavid and Drai are locked up long term.

    We haven’t made the playoffs two years running with the same defensive core that made it three years ago. Is Keith gonna sit on his hands probably but a new GM might shake things up. Thank goodness Bouchard is coming we are in dire need of a tape to tape D man that can spring Leon and the fastest man in the Galaxy.

  137. Ribs says:

    Do we have any real reason to believe Kevin Lowe has been involved in hockey related operations since he took on his latest position? The whole OBC thing is a fun conspiracy theory, but there doesn’t appear to be many loose ends that these supposed sloppy ol’ drunkards have left open to the public to confirm such suspicions.

    I think it would be a shame for our former heroes to be ran out of town for something they realistically have little control over.

    Re-read The Red Wine Summits and think about where we are now. The OBC got their way, according to this. They got rid of the coach and replaced him with an ol’ timey face. They ushered out Chiarelli for not helping the team long-term. Coffey is still busy mentoring our top flight prospects. Should we now be crying foul? Keep in mind that pulling the trigger on these supposed OBC suggestions earlier on may have meant playoffs for the Oilers this season.

    “If Katz is listening to Chiarelli and Nicholson — like them or not — then he’s listening to the right people.”

    Hmm.

  138. Reja says:

    Ribs: Impressive. I hope his agent stays clear of this post.

    His agent is licking is chops and phoning contractors for a quote on the new swimming pool in the backyard.

  139. Ribs says:

    Todd Macallan: Welp, not a stinker. What a fun game to see live. The Reider chant at the end was genuine and a great moment, if he had buried that chance at the end the place would’ve erupted.

    As an aside, the in game experience there was fantastic, think someone mentioned a few threads back that it was poor. The gf was not that interested in the game but had a blast with everything else going on there. Great night!

    That Rieder chant was great. The poor bastard. Oilers fans are special because of this level of involvement they have with the team and their players.

  140. kgo says:

    When Drai signed for $8.5M there was a lot of people bashing the contract….how many people would dreamed he might score 50g and 100p in year 2 of the contract.

  141. godot10 says:

    russ99:
    godot10,

    Nurse has never played right side, Sekera has.

    He did occasionally play the right side in junior.

    His mobility is better than Sekera. Sekera is a better passer, keep him on his strong side. Nurse can skate himself out of trouble on the right side.

  142. OriginalPouzar says:

    Jaxon:
    Nurse Update after 2 point game.

    Nurse now has 55 pts at 5v5 in his last 171GP since March 14, 2017. That’s good for 10th.

    1 – Burns 70
    2 – Rielly 68
    3 – Giordano – 65
    4 – Carlson – 64
    5 – Josi – 64
    6 – Karlsson – 62
    7 – Klingberg – 58
    8 – Spurgeon – 56
    9 – Hamilton – 56
    10 – Nurse – 55
    11 – Hedman – 55
    12 – Gardiner – 55
    13 – Muzzin – 55
    14 – Pietrangelo – 54
    15 – Barrie – 53
    16 – Keith – 52
    17 – Orlov – 51
    18 – Manson – 51
    19 – Jones – 51

    He’s also 30th (among players with over 2000 minutes played) with 1.01 5v5 pts/60. Tied with Gostisbehere and Krug in that time frame. #33 Jones, #48 Subban, #45 Provorov, #51 Ekholm, #52 Theodore, #56 Ekblad, #66 Byfuglien.

    May I ask why the March 14, 2017 start date?

  143. OriginalPouzar says:

    JimmyV1965: Drai did have hatty in playoffs. I didn’t throw my hat. Douche.

    First regular season hattrick!

  144. OriginalPouzar says:

    hunter1909: Drunkards are dangerous because 1- they don’t learn anything new ever

    I drink on occasion, and sometimes even too much, so I’m not trying to set myself up as any kind of moral authority here.

    Kevin Lowe’s expression clearly shows he has no idea that the team he presides over has missed the playoffs 12 out of the last 13 seasons. Personally I’d rather get up at 4 AM and do Chinese Martial Arts than wake up with a hangover every day like alcoholics do. Also, it’s better to not be drunk because then you know you’re not making everyone else around you miserable.

    It appears that Oilers management are nothing but piss heads. They haven’t “earned it” anymore than any alcoholic bumming money outside the liquor stores.

    Of all the OBC memebers with positions within Katz empire, its pretty clear that Kevin Lowe is far removed from hockey ops.

  145. OriginalPouzar says:

    JimmyV1965:
    Oilers score eight goals. Get one point from the bottom six forwards. And that was Gambardella playing with Drai and McDavid.

    Also, 5 goals (I think) without McDavid getting a point.

  146. OriginalPouzar says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: Damn… he’s gonna get PAID!!!

    Like, in the realm of $7M+ if he keeps this up. Can’t afford him. Hate to say it, but it might be in the Oilers best interests to cash in on him in the summer. This is where we all say that chia screwed us again by signing the wrong players to overpriced contracts preventing the oilers from signing him to a long term contract in the range of $5M AAV.

    The gifts that keep on giving… becauseoilers.

    There is the “cash him in” argument, however, at the same time, if he has another 40 point season and a season worthy of warranting a $7M AAV extension, well, then next year he will be providing a massive value at $3.1M.

    Nurse’s next contract negotiations are, again, going to be very tough but, at the same time, this is a drafted and developed players, with a combination of size and skill meant for the “new NHL” that is about to enter his prime and has 1 year left on value contract which ends while an RFA (not UFA).

    That is the exact type of player this team needs to, unless there is a no-brainer overpay win being offered, I don’t know about trading the player.

  147. Jaxon says:

    OriginalPouzar: May I ask why the March 14, 2017 start date?

    Absolutely. It is when Nurse started to heat up and seemed to turn a corner offensively at the end of the 2016-2017 season. So it shows as large a sample size as possible since he started scoring more.

  148. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja: We haven’t made the playoffs two years running with the same defensive core that made it three years ago. Is Keith gonna sit on his hands probably but a new GMmight shake things up. Thank goodness Bouchard is coming we are in dire need of a tape to tape D man that can spring Leon and the fastest man in the Galaxy.

    The recipient of those passes will likely be the likes of Krill Maksimov and Kailer Yamamoto next year – Drai and McDavid likely to receive such passes from some combination of Joel Persson, Caleb Jones, Willliam Lagesson and Ethan Bear – all currently playing in professional leagues and excelling in their roles.

  149. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: He did occasionally play the right side in junior.

    His mobility is better than Sekera.Sekera is a better passer, keep him on his strong side.Nurse can skate himself out of trouble on the right side.

    The one 5 on 5 shift that had Sekera/Nurse was a long possession shift resulting in a goal.

  150. OriginalPouzar says:

    Jaxon: Absolutely. It is when Nurse started to heat up and seemed to turn a corner offensively at the end of the 2016-2017 season. So it shows as large a sample size as possible since he started scoring more.

    Fair enough – thank you for the response.

  151. Genjutsu says:

    hunter1909: Nice one. Wait until the last part of the season to start talking about last summer.

    20/20 hindsight!

    Do you need a hug?

  152. deardylan says:

    German Gretzky at 99pts
    Alchemy!

  153. Glovjuice says:

    So, can Connor at least catch Kutcherov in points per game rate?

  154. UnjustEnrichment says:

    Drai’s contract is now looking like a bargain. What an amazing player! Anyone who says he does not drive his own offence is being willfully blind.

  155. ArmchairGM says:

    Glovjuice:
    So, can Connor at least catch Kutcherov in points per game rate?

    He should win the Hart to make up for being cheated out of it last year. It’s not his fault management gutted the team and missed the playoffs again.

    Tampa is a playoff team with or without Kucherov.

  156. Munny says:

    OriginalPouzar: The one 5 on 5 shift that had Sekera/Nurse was a long possession shift resulting in a goal.

    It was on Sekera on the right side though. Not the way Godot wanted it.

  157. pts2pndr says:

    Reja: We haven’t made the playoffs two years running with the same defensive core that made it three years ago. Is Keith gonna sit on his hands probably but a new GMmight shake things up. Thank goodness Bouchard is coming we are in dire need of a tape to tape D man that can spring Leon and the fastest man in the Galaxy.

    True but Sekera has been out for most of the last two years. Klefbom and Larson have also missed significant time. Russel has been forced to play second pairing right D. The most glaring deficiency is the lack of a 2nd pairing right D. Russel is overpaid if on the third pairing. Sekera is overpaid if unable to play second pairing. What we currently have are two D making over 9 million that should be no higher than third pair. We have a number of young D ready for third pairing minutes but a large hole at second pairing right D. This is further complicated by the fact both Sekera and Russel are difficult to impossible to move due their contracts. Bleeding assets to increase cap space is short term gain for long term pain. There is no easy answer. It all depends on a number of variables that we are not party to. Our hope is the people in charge make the right choices.

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