Game 77 2018-19: Stars at Oilers

The Oilers are 7-4-1 in March, that’s a good record (on a pace to deliver 112 points over 82 games). Of course, the gap between Edmonton and the playoffs hasn’t closed much because Colorado is 6-3-1 in its last 10.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. INSANE NEW OFFER IS HERE!

  • New Lowetide: How the Oilers can shop for a big bang on a small budget
  • New Jonathan Willis: How the Oilers can turn their prospect depth into the blueline of a contender.
  • Lowetide: What Mark Hunter’s draft record in Toronto means for his Oilers GM candidacy.
  • Lowetide: Colby Cave and Joe Gambardella build late-season resumes with Edmonton.
  • Lowetide: The Oilers made a rare move and shopped the QMJHL at the 2018 draft. It could happen again.
  • Eric Duhatschek: Sorting through the organizational problems in Ottawa and Edmonton.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: After a year of despair, Oilers prospect Cameron Hebig grateful for latest chapter with the Condors
  • Jonathan Willis: Bob Nicholson’s misguided Tobias Rieder comments reveal deeper problems within Oilers management
  • Jonathan Willis: Ken Hitchcock knows why Edmonton has trouble exiting its zone, but lacks the players to fix it.
  • Lowetide: Trimming cap fat and adding speed and skill will shape Oilers’ offseason.
  • Jonathan Willis: Former Canucks architects Mike Gillis and Laurence Gilman should be considered for any vacant NHL GM job
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers draft early, the WHL is loaded and there’s a lot of history.
  • Jonathan Willis: Analyzing how much the Oilers should be willing to spend on pending free agent Alex Chiasson.
  • Jonathan Willis: Keith Gretzky is a legitimate Oilers GM candidate, but would be a hard sell in Edmonton
  • Lowetide: How the Oilers can build a contender during Connor McDavid’s prime.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How Leon Draisaitl has found ‘another level’ by matching offensive wizardry with sound positioning.
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the OHL.

OILERS AFTER 77

  • Oilers in 2015: 30-40-7, 67 points; goal differential -35
  • Oilers in 2016: 43-25-9, 95 points; goal differential +30
  • Oilers in 2017: 34-37-6, 74 points; goal differential -35
  • Oilers in 2018: 34-34-8, 76 points; goal differential -23

OILERS IN MARCH

  • Oilers in March 2016: 7-6-0, 14 points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in March 2017: 9-3-1, 19 points; goal differential +17
  • Oilers in March 2018: 7-4-2, 16 points; goal differential +8
  • Oilers in March 2019: 7-4-1, 15 points; goal differential +2

WHAT TO EXPECT IN MARCH

  • On the road to: Columbus, Buffalo (Expected 0-1-1) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • At home to: Vancouver, Toronto, NY Rangers, NJD (Expected 2-1-1) (Actual 2-2-0)
  • On the road to: Arizona, Vegas, St. Louis (Expected: 0-2-1) (Actual 1-2-0)
  • At home to: Columbus,Ottawa, Los Angeles, Dallas, Anaheim (Expected: 3-1-1) (Actual 2-0-1)
  • Overall expected result: 5-5-4, 14 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 7-4-1, 15 points in 12 games

HEAD TO HEAD VIA PUCK IQ

My article for The Athletic this morning approaches 2,000 words. It’s a look at the summer ahead and an offering of a possible future. One of the things I didn’t have room for (but may address in a future article) is the idea of Matt Benning moving up to the second pairing. Using Puck IQ, we see some trends.

As you can see over the past three seasons, Benning’s usage against elites has actually been reduced. Injuries, struggles, Kris Russell as a preferred option, all of these things have come into play.

Benning’s success against elites (Dangerous Fenwick Percentage) suggests to me the Oilers may want to flip him to second pair. Russell has played 160 more minutes against elites this season, but his possession rate is going the wrong way in a hurry.

The new general manager will have some tough decisions this summer, one of which is (probably) deciding between Russell, Benning and Sekera. I hope you enjoy the article (and thanks to Woodguy for his input on roster decisions for the piece).

Last time he played an NHL game, Malone got six minutes against the Rangers (March 11). Gambardella won an NHL job, at least for now.

BENSON AT 20

In this century, Tyler Benson is unique among Oilers prospect forwards who play in the AHL at 20. How unique? He’s No. 1 and here’s the top 10.

  1. LW Tyler Benson (18-19 Bakersfield Condors). 60gp, 14-45-59 .983ppg. In his last 31 games, Benson has 38 points. He’s second in rookie scoring, leads all rookies in assists. Edmonton has talked all along about keeping these kids on the farm, I think there’s a strong chance he’ll be one of the best options at left wing in the fall.
  2. LC Rob Schremp (06-07 SWB Penguins) 69gp, 17-36-53 .768ppg Schremp had a tough first year pro, getting benched a few times and was a healthy scratch a few times too. His coach did have some nice things to say about him but he was always dogged by skating and coverage issues.
  3. RC Jarret Stoll (02-03 Hamilton Bulldogs) 76gp, 21-33-54 .711ppg The two things I remember about Stoll in the AHL are a goal he scored maybe 5 seconds after the faceoff at center-ice and that the “shared” Habs/Oil team that year was a beauty. Stoll played with really good players and had an excellent season, which he built upon to become a solid NHL player.
  4. RC Marc Pouliot (05-06 Hamilton Bulldogs) 65gp, 15-30-45 .692ppg Pouliot played on a shared team (like Stoll) as a rookie pro and put up excellent results. Of all the kids who’ve played extended AHL time this century for the Oilers, he’s the guy who I thought could have helped them in the two-way role. It never happened for him. Injuries had a major impact.
  5. LW Jean Francois Jacques (05-06 Hamilton Bulldogs) 65gp, 24-20-44 .677ppg Jacques had a helluva pro debut and his size and speed made him a promising prospect. He lost a lot of momentum due to back injuries and may have lacked ‘hockey sense’. He is most famous for not getting a point as an NHL rookie in 2006-07 (in 37 games).
  6. RW Kailer Yamamoto (18-19 Bakersfield Condors) 27gp, 10-8-18 .667 ppg. It has been a disappointing campaign for the young winger, but he has scored at a rapid clip when playing with skill.
  7. LW Magnus Paajarvi (11-12 Oklahoma City Barons) 34gp, 7-18-25 .735ppg Paajarvi played in the NHL at 19, so this is after that teenage season. Great speed, good defensive instincts, can’t score enough to move up the depth chart, he has carved out a career as a depth player. This season with the Senators he scored 10 goals in an NHL campaign for the first time since he was a rookie in 2010-11.
  8. LW Teemu Hartikainen (10-11 Oklahoma City Barons) 66gp, 17-25-42 .636ppg The big Finn was a pure delight and the first 20-year old AHL forward in a couple of years to show up on the radar. He was a little shy on speed but I loved his hands and spirit. He’s an impact player in the KHL.
  9. RC Kyle Brodziak (04-05 Edmonton Roadrunners) 56gp, 6-26-32 .571ppg Brodziak has a nice combination of size and skill. His AHL debut at 20 came on a very poor offensive team, and he built on that season (that team couldn’t score a lick), finally emerging as a legit NHL player about the time Edmonton traded him.
  10. RW Jani Rita (01-02 Hamilton Bulldogs) 76gp, 25-17-42 .553ppg I thought Jani Rita would make it. He had the one thing Paajarvi didn’t (a great shot) but not enough of the stuff Paajarvi had to impress Craig MacTavish.

In a year that held several good choices, the selection of Sekera is the right one in my opinion.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260, we kick out the jams for opening day! Scheduled to appear:

  • Jonah Birenbaum, The Score. Opening Day! Everyone is in first place!
  • Frank Seravalli, TSN. These first-round matchups are (in some cases) wildly unfair. Some great teams are going home early.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    2-1 Edmonton (1-1 in the second period)
    31-12 Edmonton shots (16-6 in the second period)
    33-22 Edmonton Corsi 5-on-5 (22-10 Edmonton in the second period)

    I love this game. I don’t think two goals wins it though.

  2. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: I specifically remember a solid stretch last season where Russell really had his ice cut – down to 3rd pairing and vastly reduce PK time.It was noticeable given how much McLellan trusted Russell.

    Also, both this season and last season Russell started on the 3rd pairing as Benning started the year at 2RD – I believe.

    You’re completely correct, Russell did play 3rd pair a bit (largely replaced by Benning at 2R). My focus was if Klef/Nurse/Russell-Benning ever played as 3rd pair. I don’t recall that in the past 2 yrs. If that’s correct, Benning’s time with those guys had to be 2nd pair, which was my original point (unless Sekera was playing 2nd pair with one of the others – which I don’t think was a thing).

  3. oilersfan says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    OP

    I think you intended to answer but the answer didn’t show up

  4. OriginalPouzar says:

    oilersfan:
    OriginalPouzar,

    OP

    I think you intended to answer but the answer didn’t show up

    7th in GF
    21st in GA
    23rd in GF%

    https://www.naturalstattrick.com/teamtable.php

  5. Professor Q says:

    RIEDER! RIEDER! RIEDER!

    Come on, man. You aren’t going to get many more prime McDavid passes like that. Don’t pass them back to him without shooting first…

  6. leadfarmer says:

    Those Stars got a good one in Heiskanen. First year in North America and playing top minutes

  7. jp says:

    leadfarmer:
    Those Stars got a good one in Heiskanen.First year in North America and playing top minutes

    +1

    Fuck.

  8. flyfish1168 says:

    Glove side again

  9. leadfarmer says:

    leadfarmer:
    Those Stars got a good one in Heiskanen.First year in North America and playing top minutes

    And then he scores.
    Le sigh

  10. hunter1909 says:

    1st you see a brace of Oilers players literally on their bellies right behind the Dallas goal and think “Hmmm, this looks like one of those iconic GIF situations…with the Oiler’s shit defence there appears to be a guaranteed goal coming up…then Boom! Dallas Scores!

  11. leadfarmer says:

    Currie Russels his way out of the play

  12. hunter1909 says:

    They’re not making the playoffs regardless of the outcome tonight.

    I mean, really.

  13. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oilers outshooting starts by more than double, 35-16 but the game is tied – goaltending matters……..

  14. hunter1909 says:

    Looks like Lovejoy is more lover than fighter.

  15. Zelepukin says:

    flyfish1168:
    Glove side again

    It’s kind of like he is holding a frisbee vertically and isn’t allowed to move it around.

    Actually, if you told me his shoulder was messed and he couldn’t raise his arm above his head, I’d believe you.

  16. hunter1909 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Oilers outshooting starts by more than double, 35-16 but the game is tied – goaltending matters……..

    +good Defence matters even more

  17. dsr29 says:

    That goalie for Dallas battles everytime to find the puck. Fun to watch.

  18. BONE207 says:

    hunter1909:
    They’re not making the playoffs regardless of the outcome tonight.

    I mean, really.

    Coming here just for your insight makes it worthwhile 😁

  19. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Oilers outshooting starts by more than double, 35-16 but the game is tied – goaltending matters……..

    It’s funny how much you hate Koskinen
    First goal was a very high danger scoring chance (high danger chance that the goalie cannot get set for)
    Second goal the f bailed on the play and Heiskanen showed off his crazy good wrister. Most g don’t make that save

  20. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Oilers outshooting starts by more than double, 35-16 but the game is tied – goaltending matters……..

    Luck as well. Two + McDavid shots that almost went in but weren’t stopped by the goalie.

  21. digger50 says:

    hunter1909: +good Defence matters even more

    I would say Oilers defence is better than the stars, at least tonightbthey are. Yet stars goalie has performed well.

  22. Professor Q says:

    dsr29:
    That goalie for Dallas battles everytime to find the puck. Fun to watch.

    Except when the puck went wide (Klefbom’s shot) and bounced off the boards while Khudobin was out. He barely looked back.

    If that was McDavid or Draisaitl forechecking and not Kassian, the puck might have been in the net before Kudobin made it back to his crease.

  23. Paulie says:

    Saw 2-4 and 25-83 pairings

  24. Professor Q says:

    I love how we have a player wearing a cage while another is wearing a shield. I wonder if medically, one is recommended over the other for certain ailments? Maybe they discussed it with each other?

  25. BONE207 says:

    leadfarmer: It’s funny how much you hate Koskinen
    First goal was a very high danger scoring chance (high danger chance that the goalie cannot get set for)
    Second goal the f bailed on the play and Heiskanen showed off his crazy good wrister.Most g don’t make that save

    When he went to Disneyland there was a ride that said you had to be “this high”. Well he wasn’t that high so they sent him away. The ride was called The Koskinen. Ever since then…

  26. little.fiery.one says:

    We need to spend some time in the other end, please.

  27. Lowetide says:

    MASSIVE save Koskinen.

  28. digger50 says:

    Big save for Koski

  29. Paulie says:

    Decent save

  30. BONE207 says:

    Koski held the stop sign the right way that time

  31. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers Defence: The defence that keeps on giving(to the opposition)

  32. Professor Q says:

    Dallas has been getting away with a lot of interference.

    I guess after the refs had joined in they thought it was perfectly fine to amp up their game?

  33. hunter1909 says:

    digger50: I would say Oilers defence is better than the stars, at least tonightbthey are. Yet stars goalie has performed well.

    Stars are nothing to write home about. They make the playoffs then hope to win a round then probably golf 2 weeks later than the Oilers.

  34. digger50 says:

    I thought Oikersxwere much better team tonight and the score has no business being 2-2.

  35. Professor Q says:

    Why are they calling Hintz, “Henns”? I know he’s Finnish, but it just seems weird (to a more Germanic speaker).

  36. theDjdj says:

    shoot outs are such an absolute waste of time. I’d be happy if they ran another commercial break and then came out of another 5min

  37. hunter1909 says:

    Professor Q:
    Why are they calling Hintz, “Henns”? I know he’s Finnish, but it just seems weird.

    The same reason they call St. John, Sin-gin”.

  38. Gerta Rauss says:

    Lots of excitement in the OT-nuthin’ doin’

    -Gagner
    -Nuge
    -Connor are my picks

  39. BONE207 says:

    Last goal wins!!!

  40. hunter1909 says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Lots of excitement in the OT-nuthin’ doin’

    -gagner
    -Nuce
    -Connor are my picks

    No Roeder?

  41. hunter1909 says:

    That’s for drafting “Taylor” Seguin.

  42. Glovjuice says:

    leadfarmer: It’s funny how much you hate Koskinen
    First goal was a very high danger scoring chance (high danger chance that the goalie cannot get set for)
    Second goal the f bailed on the play and Heiskanen showed off his crazy good wrister.Most g don’t make that save

    It’s arguably the stupidest signing in Oilers history. The process was horrendous. Analysis terrible. Outcome brutal. The Oilers are fucked. Totally fucked.

  43. Gerta Rauss says:

    whew…

  44. hunter1909 says:

    Putting Gagner in is simply cruel.

  45. Gerta Rauss says:

    5 shooters deep now..

  46. leadfarmer says:

    Chaisson with the Roberto Baggio

  47. hunter1909 says:

    Glovjuice: It’s arguably the stupidest signing in Oilers history. The process was horrendous. Analysis terrible. Outcome brutal. The Oilers are fucked. Totally fucked.

    LMAO Oilers have a litany of dumbass moves as many as 10 completely impacting this team. Even if you’re 100% correct, the line forms on the left.

  48. Gerta Rauss says:

    Benn with the winner in the shootout

  49. Professor Q says:

    Glovjuice: It’s arguably the stupidest signing in Oilers history. The process was horrendous. Analysis terrible. Outcome brutal. The Oilers are fucked. Totally fucked.

    Wait, I thought Lucic or Russell took that title?

    The hive mind needs a decisive answer.

  50. Professor Q says:

    hunter1909:
    Putting Gagner in is simply cruel.

    Shootout King, though. Not that bad of a decision even if he missed.

  51. JimmyV1965 says:

    The amount of clutching, grabbing, obstruction and interference that Dallas got away with was staggering.

  52. hunter1909 says:

    Professor Q: Wait, I thought Lucic or Russell took that title?

    The hive mind needs a decisive answer.

    Astonishingly Gagner is a decent addition. Since returning he’s provided zilch(hardly shocking since he’s already been waived through the NHL).

  53. leadfarmer says:

    Glovjuice: It’s arguably the stupidest signing in Oilers history. The process was horrendous. Analysis terrible. Outcome brutal. The Oilers are fucked. Totally fucked.

    Don’t disagree. The contract was beyond stupid
    The player is very avg
    Koskinen is Finnish for meh
    But it’s not his fault he was signed to a stupid contract just like it wasn’t Horcoffs fault
    Someone throws money at you you take it

  54. hunter1909 says:

    JimmyV1965:
    The amount of clutching, grabbing, obstruction and interference that Dallas got away with was staggering.

    Say whatever, but Oilers defence is pathetic.

    + the entire bottom 9 sans RNH

  55. BONE207 says:

    JimmyV1965:
    The amount of clutching, grabbing, obstruction and interference that Dallas got away with was staggering.

    I think it was ’90s night tonight just to make Hitch feel more at home…or homesick

  56. hunter1909 says:

    leadfarmer: Someone throws money at you you take it

    Katz’s Oilers think spending to the salary cap on mediocre players makes it look like they’re on top of things in Kkatz’s eyes and guess what they’re freaking 100% right.

    They also love handing out NMC’s because it makes them appear as if players are desperate to stay in Edmonton.

  57. Glovjuice says:

    hunter1909: LMAO Oilers have a litany of dumbass moves as many as 10 completely impacting this team. Even if you’re 100% correct, the line forms on the left.

    Ah hahhahahahahhahaha. You are correct. Total nightmare of nightmares it is. Gross. It’s pharyngeal reflex inducing, actually. FireTaylorHall.

  58. Ice Sage says:

    I had trouble predicting the Oiler SO shooters after the first 3.

    ’nuff said

  59. leadfarmer says:

    hunter1909: Astonishingly Gagner is a decent addition. Since returning he’s provided zilch(hardly shocking since he’s already been waived through the NHL).

    Still don’t get the Strome trade.
    They threw him away because he wasn’t as good as they thought he was when they traded for him (which they should have known)
    But he is definitely better than the guys they brought back in subsequent trades

  60. hunter1909 says:

    Glovjuice: Ah hahhahahahahhahaha. You are correct. Total nightmare of nightmares it is. Gross. It’s pharyngeal reflex inducing, actually. FireTaylorHall.

    Being an Oilers fan is like volunteering to get beaten up by a gang of hooligans. After the kicking it’s impossible to figure out exactly which 3 hooligans out of 10 hit you the hardest.

  61. Glovjuice says:

    leadfarmer: Don’t disagree.The contract was beyond stupid
    The player is very avg
    Koskinen is Finnish for meh
    But it’s not his fault he was signed to a stupid contract just like it wasn’t Horcoffs fault
    Someone throws money at you you take it

    Agreed. He and his agent played the Soilers incompetent management drunkards like a bunch of fucking fools – which they are. Awful embarrassment of a management team. Horrendous. $40 pop, burger and a beer – it’s disgusting. That’s the tab for an adult and 8 year old for intermission. Sickening.

  62. hunter1909 says:

    leadfarmer: Still don’t get the Strome trade.
    They threw him away because he wasn’t as good as they thought he was when they traded for him (which they should have known)
    But he is definitely better than the guys they brought back in subsequent trades

    Strome always looked good to me. I’m only a Tier X fan so what do I know lol

  63. Scungilli Slushy says:

    There is only one reason Chiasson should be in the NHL still, and he blew that thing when it mattered most. Completely.

    Re-up 3 x 4 coming soon.

    Save us. Somebody.

  64. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Gagner is now too rich to be a player of interest, or interested.

  65. hunter1909 says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    Gagner is now too rich to be a player of interest, or interested.

    A horrible idea, bringing back a useless ex-player. Off the charts stupid. Why am I not surprised?

  66. Scungilli Slushy says:

    hunter1909: A horrible idea, bringing back a useless ex-player. Off the charts stupid. Why am I not surprised?

    Not a choice, a cap strung swing for the fences. I would have in Kretzky’s shoes.

    But players wanting to come ‘home’ is plain wrong minded if management wants to win and haven’t screwed themselves.

    The GM needs to be fair, but ruthless. Buddies on the golf course, assassin on the phone circuit. Or email, or whatever.

  67. Scungilli Slushy says:

    hunter1909: Strome always looked good to me. I’m only a Tier X fan so what do I know lol

    Strome was bland and is, but a RHC whose line didn’t get punked. INTO THE SUN!!!!

    And here we are.

  68. OriginalPouzar says:

    leadfarmer: It’s funny how much you hate Koskinen
    First goal was a very high danger scoring chance (high danger chance that the goalie cannot get set for)
    Second goal the f bailed on the play and Heiskanen showed off his crazy good wrister.Most g don’t make that save

    I don’t hate Koskinen, why would I hate him?

    He’s just not a very good NHL goaltender – the evidence is mounting.

    Niether goal against tonight was terrible (although he could have had the second one) but the fact is the goaltender at the other end, their back-up, made a bunch of saves and stole the game for his team.

  69. OriginalPouzar says:

    Professor Q: Luck as well. Two + McDavid shots that almost went in but weren’t stopped by the goalie.

    Cogliano hit the post a well.

    Khuodobin made the saves, including the ones that “wouldn’t have been bad goals”.

    Needed one of those from Koskinen and didn’t get it.

  70. Glovjuice says:

    leadfarmer: Still don’t get the Strome trade.
    They threw him away because he wasn’t as good as they thought he was when they traded for him (which they should have known)
    But he is definitely better than the guys they brought back in subsequent trades

    Trade a solid to low solid right shot, 15 G scoring, penalty killing centre now playing for a playoff team for a broken, slow, AHL winger. Holy shit. OP, but his NYI numbers suck right ? Man.

  71. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Connor looked so bagged tonight in the end of the game I caught.

    i’m on pins and needles about Burger’s decisions. And that he’d making them. Or above.

  72. OilClog says:

    Glovjuice: It’s arguably the stupidest signing in Oilers history. The process was horrendous. Analysis terrible. Outcome brutal. The Oilers are fucked. Totally fucked.

    Doesn’t break the top 20 for this franchise.

    They’re not totally fucked, Kosk has a weak glove, Oilers have 3.5 defenceman every full moon otherwise 2.3 defenceman every game. If they would Provide a functioning 3 sets of D to ice on a nightly basis the true face of why the Oilers are fucked will prevail.

    Traded their abundance of skill for character and truculence, while letting the actual character making a positive impact also walk.

    Oilers must now hope there is a organization out there with a inordinate amount of skill with little to no high paid character and truculence that only crippling contracts can provide.

    Will the new GM trade Leon for Johnny Boychuk.. or will the new GM be awake? I’m starting to wonder they put in the coffee round those parts. Rexall’s can’t beleve it’s not sugar, sugar.

  73. hunter1909 says:

    OilClog: Will the new GM trade Leon for Johnny Boychuk.. or will the new GM be awake? I’m starting to wonder they put in the coffee round those parts. Rexall’s can’t beleve it’s not sugar, sugar.

    “Old cokeheads never die”.

  74. OilClog says:

    OriginalPouzar: I don’t hate Koskinen, why would I hate him?

    He’s just not a very good NHL goaltender – the evidence is mounting.

    Niether goal against tonight was terrible (although he could have had the second one) but the fact is the goaltender at the other end, their back-up, made a bunch of saves and stole the game for his team.

    Pretty easy to look tremendous when 18 AHL levels shooters are aiming their barrels at you

  75. hunter1909 says:

    Thankfully the team salvaged a point. This will help them in their playoff push.

  76. Glovjuice says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    Connor looked so bagged tonight in the end of the game I caught.

    i’m on pins and needles about Burger’s decisions. And that he’d making them. Or above.

    Burger is a bumbling fool. What an embarrassment. Any hockey executive who allows that Koskinen signing to happen as the incumbent GM is about to be fired should be embarrassed to show their face at the podium and in all hockey circles in perpetuity.

  77. Glovjuice says:

    hunter1909:
    Thankfully the team salvaged a point. This will help them in their playoff push.

    They can’t even drop 6 points right over the last 10 useless games to get a 1-3 better draft slot. Is this reverse incompetence ? Not even sure.

  78. hunter1909 says:

    I found this hilarity on ESPN’s rankings of every NHL team’s secret MVPs:

    Tobias Rieder: I mean, if the team’s CEO says the Oilers would have been a playoff team if a guy skating 12 minutes per game had scored a few more goals, how is this person not the most valuable player?

  79. JimmyV1965 says:

    I thought Koskinnen was meh tonight. He didn’t cost us the game and that’s something. Thought the defence played well tonight. They moved the puck forward quite well I thought. The forwards though, simply can’t convert. Lots of pressure, but little skill. The big three were the only players to even register a point. This is madness!!!Frickin hated seeing Lucic on the second line near the end of the game.

  80. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Glovjuice: They can’t even drop 6 points right over the last 10 useless games to get a 1-3 better draft slot. Is this reverse incompetence ? Not even sure.

    That to me is the worst thing about the hopeless playoff pushes we’ve seen over the years. Especially when the team was out before Christmas. Win big or lose big. Excel at something.

  81. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Glovjuice: Agreed. He and his agent played the Soilers incompetent management drunkards like a bunch of fucking fools – which they are. Awful embarrassment of a management team. Horrendous. $40pop, burger and a beer – it’s disgusting. That’s the tab for an adult and 8 year old for intermission. Sickening.

    “Incompetent management drunkards” is a mouthful and makes it look like you’re trying too hard. I prefer the more concise “fucking fools”. It also rolls off the tongue nicely.

  82. Pretendergast says:

    Bit late but i bet Bruce will love that the last 6 games the Oilers have had 6 powerplays, 1 per game. I don’t know how either.

  83. Genjutsu says:

    leadfarmer: Don’t disagree.The contract was beyond stupid
    The player is very avg
    Koskinen is Finnish for meh
    But it’s not his fault he was signed to a stupid contract just like it wasn’t Horcoffs fault
    Someone throws money at you you take it

    You are aware that if Talbot had performed at Koskinen’s level the Oilers are a playoff team right?

  84. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilClog: Pretty easy to look tremendous when 18 AHL levels shooters are aiming their barrels at you

    He made a number of very nice stops last night – stop on shot that the 2nd goal against Koskinen were equivalent too in terms of level of danger. He made all the tops necessary to keep his team in it to give them a chance to tie it and, eventually get the bonus point.

  85. OriginalPouzar says:

    Scungilli Slushy: That to me is the worst thing about the hopeless playoff pushes we’ve seen over the years. Especially when the team was out before Christmas. Win big or lose big. Excel at something.

    How about excelling at showing some professional pride and continuing to provide full effort until the final buzzer in game 82?

    That’s easy for guys like Joe G., Currie, etc., Rieder, etc. who are fighting for jobs and/or contracts next year but for guys like Kassian, Nuge, Drai, Nurse, Larsson, etc., not as easy and full credit to all of them for their effort recently.

  86. OriginalPouzar says:

    Genjutsu: You are aware that if Talbot had performed at Koskinen’s level the Oilers are a playoff team right?

    During the two month stretch from mid-December to mid- February, essentially the stretch that soiled the season, Talbot was better than Koskinen.

  87. Genjutsu says:

    OriginalPouzar: During the two month stretch from mid-December to mid- February, essentially the stretch that soiled the season, Talbot was better than Koskinen.

    Maybe but if you take all Talbot’s shots against as an Oiler and apply a .908sv% you’d lower team goals against enough to sneak in the weak bottom of the west.

    Like if you applied League worst sv% to Anderson’s mins in Toronto they miss the playoffs and the conversation shifts quite a bit in hog town.

    Woodguy is right they should call it mostly goalie.

  88. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    OriginalPouzar: I don’t hate Koskinen, why would I hate him?

    He’s just not a very good NHL goaltender – the evidence is mounting.

    Niether goal against tonight was terrible (although he could have had the second one) but the fact is the goaltender at the other end, their back-up, made a bunch of saves and stole the game for his team.

    Yeah well he’s got a .924 GAA this year, so that kind of play from their back up should have been expected.

  89. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – I looked up Pat Verbeek: someone was saying he’d be a good candidate.

    – Ex-player, Detroit tree-line: been with Tampa a long time, passed over by Brisebois, been given permission in past to talk to teams. He’s got IIHF/team Canada background as well

    – I like the idea a lot: wonder if he’d take it: This is the type of profile we should go for: moved up in a good organization, strong track record, knows what he’s doing, ready to be GM in a good organization: “He was hired by the Lightning as director of professional scouting on June 8, 2010 and then named assistant general manager on July 1, 2011. Verbeek oversees all of the team’s professional scouting operations, aids in player procurement and reports directly to the general manager.”

    – So he does good drafting, scouting, procurement: the good stuff…A successful version of MacT, Lowe, Howson, Keith: who are the GM’s in our org.

  90. OriginalPouzar says:

    Genjutsu: Maybe but if you take all Talbot’s shots against as an Oiler and apply a .908sv% you’d lower team goals against enough to sneak in the weak bottom of the west.

    Like if you applied League worst sv% to Anderson’s mins in Toronto they miss the playoffs and the conversation shifts quite a bit in hog town.

    Woodguy is right they should call it mostly goalie.

    You could be right but, at the same time, that’s the exact same type of reasoning that would suggest if Rieder scored 12-15 more goals this year, we’d be a playoff team…..

  91. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    OriginalPouzar: During the two month stretch from mid-December to mid- February, essentially the stretch that soiled the season, Talbot was better than Koskinen.

    – ? Koski got pulled from two games in that sample size you cite. He started 11 games. Talbot 8.

    Fun Facts:

    – Talbot won 3/8, Koski 4/11 (same)

    – Talbot had a shut out and one other game above .900 sv%. (25%) Koski had 5 starts above .900 (45%) – so worse

    – When Koski was yanked: Talbot had same/worse sv%

    – Koski had good starts after bad starts 3 times: Talbot once

    – Koski >> Talbot. SV% .908 > .893. that’s the difference between playoff team and not

    * If you directed your focus towards management with the same degree that you do with Koski you’d be cooking with fire.

    – I don’t recall multiple posts per game about Talbot who was much worse than Koski.

  92. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    OriginalPouzar: You could be right but, at the same time, that’s the exact same type of reasoning that would suggest if Rieder scored 12-15 more goals this year, we’d be a playoff team…..

    – Apply Koski’s sv% over Talbot’s starts = 14 goals less + 14 goals from Reider…Just saying

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    Koskinen is not a good NHL starting goalie – he just isn’t. All one needs to do is watch the games to see that.

    I will put a bit of stock in to “getting used to the NHL ice” – i would think that, over the course of a full season, that would be a non-factor, however here is hoping is still adjusting because, if this is him, well, it could be a tough 3 years.

  94. godot10 says:

    Scungilli Slushy:

    It’s why I’ve said they should put Jesse as easy parade centre. Gives them another right shot, he does the roaming anyway and has the boots and size for it. Like Godot suggesting Nurse should be tried at 2 Rd.

    He has the skating to play off hand and can’t pass to Russell anyway when KR is off hand. The may even be better that way as Russell could pass better and Nurse would have more options.

    I want to try Nurse at right D with Sekera, not with Russell. With Russell, I want to find a way to shoot him into the sun! -)

  95. russ99 says:

    hunter1909,

    I like Cave, Khaira and Gambardella. 3 fairly cheap contracts in the bottom six, with room for improvement.

  96. Genjutsu says:

    OriginalPouzar: You could be right but, at the same time, that’s the exact same type of reasoning that would suggest if Rieder scored 12-15 more goals this year, we’d be a playoff team…..

    Which is also accurate. Why can’t we speak truthfully anymore?

    Everyone is more concerned with everybody’s feelings than open honest conversation.

    It’s sad.

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