Game 79 2018-19: Oilers at Golden Knights

News off the ice is going to start taking over the on-ice product now, the Oilers are not in the playoff race and the college signings, draft lottery and Euro rumors are going to ratchet up in the coming days. How much work is to be done before the new general manager arrives? Massive.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. INSANE NEW OFFER IS HERE!

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Chipped teeth, playing DJ and lots of Game of Thrones: A week in the life of Darnell Nurse.
  • New Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto’s first pro season a cause for concern.
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the giant talent pool that is the USHL.
  • Lowetide: How the Oilers can shop for a big bang on a small budget
  • Jonathan Willis: How the Oilers can turn their prospect depth into the blueline of a contender.
  • Lowetide: What Mark Hunter’s draft record in Toronto means for his Oilers GM candidacy.
  • Lowetide: Colby Cave and Joe Gambardella build late-season resumes with Edmonton.
  • Lowetide: The Oilers made a rare move and shopped the QMJHL at the 2018 draft. It could happen again.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: After a year of despair, Oilers prospect Cameron Hebig grateful for latest chapter with the Condors
  • Jonathan Willis: Bob Nicholson’s misguided Tobias Rieder comments reveal deeper problems within Oilers management
  • Jonathan Willis: Ken Hitchcock knows why Edmonton has trouble exiting its zone, but lacks the players to fix it.
  • Lowetide: Trimming cap fat and adding speed and skill will shape Oilers’ offseason.
  • Jonathan Willis: Former Canucks architects Mike Gillis and Laurence Gilman should be considered for any vacant NHL GM job
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers draft early, the WHL is loaded and there’s a lot of history.
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the OHL.

OILERS AFTER 79

  • Oilers in 2015: 30-42-7, 67 points; goal differential -37
  • Oilers in 2016: 44-26-9, 97 points; goal differential +30
  • Oilers in 2017: 34-39-6, 74 points; goal differential -37
  • Oilers in 2018: 34-35-9, 77 points; goal differential -27

I think this Oilers team is clearly the second best of the McDavid Oilers, but how maddening is that? Everyone keeps saying Mike Gillis is poison for the culture of the franchise, did anyone pause to think that might be a good idea?

OILERS IN APRIL

  • Oilers in April 2016: 0-1-0, zero points; goal differential -5
  • Oilers in April 2017: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in April 2018: 0-1-0, zero points; goal differential -3
  • Oilers in April 2019: 7-5-2, 16 points; goal differential -2

WHAT TO EXPECT IN APRIL

  • On the road to: Vegas, Colorado (Expected 0-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: San Jose (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Calgary (Expected: 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 1-2-1, three points in 4 games
  • Current results: 0-0-0

TO DO LIST

Keith Gretzky has several items on his list of things to do pre-draft, and the organization has a giant log of things to do before the fall. Here are a few that come to mind:

  • Sign or trade John Marino if he plans to turn pro. Marino is worth signing, his progression post draft has been strong. That said, Edmonton’s RHD depth chart may mean a parting of the ways. The team has already made the decision to pass on JD Dudek.
  • Sign goalie Hayden Hawkey. His college career continues, Providence is off to the Frozen Four April 11 weekend. I think he’s earned a contract, no idea how they’ll find room.
  • Sign or move on from defenseman Vincent Desharnais, also heading to the Frozen Four with Providence College. I don’t think it’s a lock either way, would lean toward passing but it’s been a good season.
  • Sign Ryan McLeod. Although he was drafted just one year ago, McLeod turns 20 in September. The Oilers could send him back to junior in the fall, going full “ripen!” but one suspects he’ll be in Bakersfield in October.
  • Make a decision on Ryan Mantha. He’ll have one more year on his entry deal, haven’t heard anything about a comeback.
  • Sign Alex Chiasson, who might be the only pending UFA who’ll return.
  • RFA’s Jesse Puljujarvi, Jujhar Khaira, Joe Gambardella, Ty Rattie, Tobias Rieder, Tyler Vesel, Colin Larkin, Robin Norell and Shane Starrett all need contracts (or to be walked). My guess is they’ll retain Khaira, Gambardella and Starrett, while passing on the rest and trading Puljujarvi.
  • My current guess is that JP is packaged with a substantial defenseman in an effort to get a scoring forward who is established. What might that look like? Don’t know, but Caleb Jones is the most likely defenseman to step in this fall, so a LHD might be in play.

PROJECTED 50-MAN

There is so much work to do, and (as we’ve discussed) one summer isn’t going to turn this rig around. Two things that are positives: Edmonton’s drafting over the past two summers procured several impressive talents outside the first round (Samorukov, Skinner, Safin, Maksimov, McLeod, Rodrigue) worthy of signing. The other positive? The general manager has enough blue line depth to trade from an area of strength.

A FEW THOUGHTS

I think Oilers fans can assume Keith Gretzky will handle all business through draft day, and possibly into free agency. If Bob Nicholson’s plan is to interview everyone, the new GM might be at the draft but won’t have a helluva lot of roster knowledge. The longer this process goes past April 15, the more likely Gretzky handles summer.

The Calgary Flames are champions of the west! I don’t expect Oilers fans to jump on the bandwagon, but the organization can serve as a model for the Oilers moving forwards. Astute drafts, wise trades, and patience have all been factors, and yes they have a thriving analytics department. The most famous fellow in the team’s stats department ruined my life when his site went down. It was so convenient!

The Arizona Coyotes are driving toward a spot but may finish just shy. The number of injuries endured over the season makes the group a major story. Edmonton’s management could learn some things from that organization, too.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

I’ll be on the roundtable this morning with Dusty, Eric and Tom Gazzola, meaning I’ll have the fourth best hairdo in the room and will also trail badly in the smarts department. No matter, I’m loud! At 10, TSN 1260, the Lowdown hits the air. Scheduled to appear:

  • Catherine Silverman, The Athletic. We’ll chat about Mikko Koskinen and what the future may bring.
  • Andrew Peard, Oil Kings PBP. Oil Kings win the series against the Medicine Hat Tigers and are moving on.
  • Jason Gregor, TSN1260. Oilers season winds down, GM candidates and who will return?

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Western Conference Playoff Standings using Points Percentage shown at points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Pacific
    CGY 26
    SJS 18
    VGK 12

    Central
    WPG 16
    NSH 15
    STL 14

    Wildcard
    DAL 10
    COL 7

    Out of playoffs
    ARI 5
    MIN 2
    CHI 1
    VAN -1
    EDM -1
    ANA -4
    LAK -11

    Wildcard Relevant games today:

    COL at STL (STL -170)

    Games remaining:

    COL: at STL, vs EDM, vs WPG, at SJS
    ARI: vs LAK, at VGK, vs WPG

    ARI and COL currently tied in ROW so this isn’t quite over yet. COL needs to win twice without a shoot out to make it impossible for ARI to catch them if they win out.

  2. frjohnk says:

    “The Arizona Coyotes are driving toward a spot but may finish just shy. The number of injuries endured over the season makes the group a major story. Edmonton’s management could learn some things from that organization, too.”

    I think the Yotes do a few strange things ( Strome trade, Schmaltz signing) but that the fact that they are close to a playoff spot despite the amount of injuries ( 364 man games lost) is indeed a major story.

    Oilers had just under league average injuries ( 177 man games lost) and just over league average injuries to top 6 forwards + top 4 Dman ( when including Klef and Sek in top 4) have two 100 point scorers and are behind the Yotes.

  3. ArmchairGM says:

    @Woodguyv2.0

    What do the woodmoneys say about Shattenkirk? Not sure that he would accept a trade to EDM, but I’ve heard rumblings that NYR could trade him this summer and they may be willing to retain salary to do it. I don’t think he will cost much. Could he be our stop-gap 2RD next year, or is he strictly a 3rd pairing guy at this point?

  4. smellyglove says:

    LT, what???

    “The most famous fellow in the team’s stats department ruined my life when his site went down. It was so convenient!”

  5. jtblack says:

    “I’ll have the fourth best hairdo in the room and will also trail badly in the smarts department. No matter, I’m loud!”

    LT – you are too funny!! Love it

  6. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Eastern Conference Playoff Standings using Points Percentage shown at points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Atlantic
    TBY 44
    BOS 24
    TOR 19

    Metropolitan
    WSH 23
    NYI 20
    PIT 18

    Wildcard
    CBJ 15
    CAR 14

    Out of playoffs
    MTL 13
    FLA 3
    PHI 3
    NYR -3
    DET -7
    BUF -7
    NJD -11
    OTT -16

    Wildcard Relevant Games today: None

    Games remaining:

    CBJ: vs BOS, at NYR, at OTT
    CAR: at TOR, vs NJD, at PHI
    MTL: vs TBY, at WSH, vs TOR

    MTL has the toughest row to hoe.

    CBJ looks to have saved Jarkko’s job and Bob rocked at .940 all situation SV% in March…..

    Bob has been shit in the playoffs his whole career

  7. jtblack says:

    ArmchairGM:
    @Woodguyv2.0

    What do the woodmoneys say about Shattenkirk? Not sure that he would accept a trade to EDM, but I’ve heard rumblings that NYR could trade him this summer and they may be willing to retain salary to do it. I don’t think he will cost much. Could he be our stop-gap 2RD next year, or is he strictly a 3rd pairing guy at this point?

    Cant wait to see this Answer.

  8. russ99 says:

    How much of this GM delay is timing for the least amount public outcry, especially if they do as we suspect and keep the old boys at all costs, “culture” and all that, with the initial excuse being that they have to stay to work on the draft and FA.

    If they wait until July to make the GM/POHO moves most fans are into summer and on vacation and not super into hockey.

    Also, if they were going to make substantial front office changes, the best people available on the job market are available April-May, not July-August, and we may miss the boat on the best GM candidates too.

    Something smells in Denmark about all this, as the saying goes.

  9. frjohnk says:

    russ99: Also, if they were going to make substantial changes, the best people on the job market are available April-May.

    If teams like Vegas are not letting other teams talk to their employees until after the season is done, it would make sense for the Oilers to wait until the season is over.

  10. tileguy says:

    I hope Rattie pots 20 next year and tells reporters how Ken never gave him a chance.

  11. fifthcartel says:

    russ99:
    How much of this GM delay is timing for the least amount public outcry, especially if they do as we suspect and keep the old boys at all costs, “culture” and all that, with the initial excuse being that they have to stay to work on the draft and FA.

    If they wait until July to make the GM/POHO moves most fans are into summer and on vacation and not super into hockey.

    Also, if they were going to make substantial front office changes, the best people available on the job market are available April-May, not July-August, and we may miss the boat on the best GM candidates too.

    Something smells in Denmark about all this, as the saying goes.

    That’s a good point.

    I’m hoping they’re just waiting to interview people before dropping the necessary sweep of current management, but most likely they’re waiting to push Gretzky as the “right guy”.

  12. hunter1909 says:

    Are they playing today?

    Must win game!!

  13. Andy Dufresne says:

    April and still not mathematically eliminated!

    LV, Colorado, San Jose, Calgary.

    If the Oilers win two of these games they probably pick 9th or 10th pre lottery.

    If the Oilers can lose out the rest of the way, they will probably end up picking 6th pre lottery.

    GLOVE SIDE HIGH!!!!!

  14. Andy Dufresne says:

    hunter1909:
    Are they playing today?

    Must win game!!

    Well they didnt “play” on the weekend……so theres probably a game tonight.

  15. Andy Dufresne says:

    tileguy:
    I hope Rattie pots 20 next year and tells reporters how Ken never gave him a chance.

    should be no problem………..playing for HC Davos in the Swiss League.

  16. Melvis says:

    I’m not particularly keen on spreading a rumour, but an Edmonton aquaintance of mine associated with the Nicholson family suggested Woodguy is on an Oilers interview list. In what capacity, I have no idea.

    Cough it up Darcy.

  17. Andy Dufresne says:

    russ99: Something smells in Denmark

    Shakespeare at his finest, along with ” To be, or Not! “….. 🙂

  18. OriginalPouzar says:

    JD Dudek was never, in my opinion, a real prospect and the non signing is a no-brainer.

    Here is hoping that Marino wants to go back for his senior year as, while I don’t want to lose him, I don’t want to sign him this year either – there may very well be a log-jam and the minor league level. I would like to delay it for a year. It may not be an option.

    Looking forward to a Hayden Hawkey signing now that Providence is done.

  19. Reja says:

    fifthcartel: That’s a good point.

    I’m hoping they’re just waiting to interview people before dropping the necessary sweep of current management, but most likely they’re waiting to push Gretzky as the “right guy”.

    I think 35% chance they keep Keith as a intern GM this year and sell it as the organization wants to do a extensive search high and low which will take time. Meanwhile if Keith does well at the draft, dumping cap, smart trades, thrifty signings. Ladies and Gentlemen we’ve had the right man all along.

  20. OriginalPouzar says:

    “RFA’s Jesse Puljujarvi, Jujhar Khaira, Joe Gambardella, Ty Rattie, Tobias Rieder, Tyler Vesel, Colin Larkin, Robin Norell and Shane Starrett all need contracts (or to be walked).”

    To me, this is easy:

    – Signing Puljujarvi, Khaira, Joe G and Starrett are no-brainers

    – Not signing Rattie, Rieder, Larkin and Norell are no-brainers (I wouldn’t mind Rieder back at apx $1M but that ship has sailed with recent comments).

    – Vesel is one to decide – it depend on who else they plan on bringing back. I assume they plan on letting Malone and Callahan go but re-signing P. Russell – there may be room for Vesel – I’m not fussed either way.

    ————————

    I can’t imagine trading Puljujarvi at this time will ever work out for the Oilers and, unless a team provides real value for him, which I doubt, I am fully against a trade at that time. Given the foregoing, I just assume he’ll be re-signed. He deserves something around $1M but he’ll get a pedigree bump that may take him to the $1.75M range.

    Kharia will be bumped up to apx $1.25M to $1.5M I would think.

  21. Andy Dufresne says:

    Woodguy. Please answer the Shattenkirk question before accepting the position with the Oliers and going dark.

  22. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Reja: I think 35% chance they keep Keith as a intern GM this year and sellit as the organization wants to doa extensive search high and low which will take time. Meanwhile if Keith does well at the draft, dumping cap, smart trades, thrifty signings. Ladies and Gentlemen we’ve had the right man all along.

    If Kretzky does all those things, maybe he *is* the right guy.

    Especially if he signs Woodguy.

  23. Andy Dufresne says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Especially if he signs Woodguy and McCurdy.

    FTFY. 🙂

  24. Andy Dufresne says:

    Any chance that with the hire of a new GM, Coach and POHO we move on from the “Red Wine Summit” to the “Red Summer” (ala GoT Red Wedding) ?

    OR

    If we hire Sam Hallam* (one of the top European candidates to land an NHL coaching role) can we shake things up with a double bill “Red Summer” & “Summer of Sam”

    *The SHL’s Coach of the Year for the last two seasons.

  25. Alpine says:

    frjohnk:
    “The Arizona Coyotes are driving toward a spot but may finish just shy. The number of injuries endured over the season makes the group a major story. Edmonton’s management could learn some things from that organization, too.”

    I think the Yotes do a few strange things ( Strome trade, Schmaltz signing) but that the fact that they are close to a playoff spot despite the amount of injuries ( 364 man games lost) is indeed a major story.

    Oilers had just under league average injuries ( 177 man games lost) and just over league average injuries to top 6 forwards + top 4 Dman ( when including Klef and Sek in top 4) have two 100 point scorers and are behind the Yotes.

    The secret to Yotes success is basically just depth and a good goalie. They had enough forward depth and and D depth to sustain multiple injuries. They have roughly five top 4 Dmen in OEL, Hjalmarsson, Chychrun, Goligoski, and Demers plus they have Oesterle and Connauton who can play more than your average 3rd pairing does.

    No elite forwards to speak of, but guys like Hinostroza and Panik have been able to look like top six guys and they have a few bottom six guys who are also scoring well.

    When the Oilers piss away a high draft pick they get a worse player or a pick in return. When the Yotes flushed Domi, Strome, and Perlini they got former first rounders in return who were equal or better or a bit worse than what they traded away.

    Obviously Kuemper is a large part of their success, but some of that comes from good goaltender scouting. He always had average to decent numbers as a backup.

  26. dustrock says:

    I’m sure Woodguy is too professional to comment but if they’re looking at him, then that’s a good sign.

    I will go ahead and assume silence from Woodguy can be implied that he has been interviewed 🙂

    Good luck!

  27. Andy Dufresne says:

    Only 8 days away from Oilers fans version of the Stanley Cup! 🙂

    Will we Cry? or Will we Sing?

    It all hangs on this Lotto thing!

    Tevye sings “Traaadition !!!”

  28. Ryan says:

    The Calgary Flames are champions of the west! I don’t expect Oilers fans to jump on the bandwagon, but the organization can serve as a model for the Oilers moving forwards. Astute drafts, wise trades, and patience have all been factors, and yes they have a thriving analytics department. The most famous fellow in the team’s stats department ruined my life when his site went down. It was so convenient!

    Who operates Natural Stat Trick?

    Great website. I’d get this person on the Analytics team for the Oilers.

  29. geowal says:

    Rieder is a uFA, not rfa, as is Currie. So Currie likely also is a returning UFA, along with maybe Chiasson.

  30. lynn says:

    Nuges Bank Account:
    Kevin Lowe to be hired as POHO according to an Oilersnation.com report. Holy Fck!!

    April Fools’ Day.

  31. Andy Dufresne says:

    dustrock: I will go ahead and assume silence from Woodguy can be implied that he has been interviewed

    That, and he has been a little more balanced/diplomatic with his comments lately. A sign?!? 🙂

  32. Ben says:

    Nuges Bank Account:
    Kevin Lowe to be hired as POHO according to an Oilersnation.com report. Holy Fck!!

    Yeah wow that’s outrageous and crazy and downright uncanny.

    (Also, there’s no Santa).

  33. flyfish1168 says:

    Nuges Bank Account:
    Kevin Lowe to be hired as POHO according to an Oilersnation.com report. Holy Fck!!

    What day is it today?

    that is a good one.

  34. flyfish1168 says:

    Bruce McCurdy: If Kretzky does all those things, maybe he *is* the right guy.

    Especially if he signs Woodguy.

    +1

  35. Andy Dufresne says:

    Alpine: The secret to Yotes success is basically just depth and a good goalie.

    Some would say “the secret to every good teams success is basically just depth and a good goalie.”

  36. jtblack says:

    dustrock:
    I’m sure Woodguy is too professional to comment but if they’re looking at him, then that’s a good sign.

    I will go ahead and assume silence from Woodguy can be implied that he has been interviewed

    Good luck!

    +1 if True Go Woodguy

  37. PokeCheck says:

    Melvis:
    I’m not particularly keen on spreadinga rumour, but an Edmonton aquaintance of mine associated with the Nicholson family suggested Woodguy is on an Oilers interview list. In what capacity, I have no idea.

    Unfortunately, it’s to be our 1B goaltender with a full no analytics clause (NAC).

  38. Reja says:

    Ryan:
    The Calgary Flames are champions of the west! I don’t expect Oilers fans to jump on the bandwagon, but the organization can serve as a model for the Oilers moving forwards. Astute drafts, wise trades, and patience have all been factors, and yes they have a thriving analytics department. The most famous fellow in the team’s stats department ruined my life when his site went down. It was so convenient!

    Who operates Natural Stat Trick?

    Great website. I’d get this person on the Analytics team for the Oilers.

    Flames haven’t won jackshit until then I wouldn’t be talking about a model franchise. I hate this but flip Tkachuk for Jesse and both teams are different. It would sure be nice to see them and that traitor Hrudey eat crow if they have a early exit.

  39. Oil2Oilers says:

    New Daniel Nugent-Bowman’s sycophanic fluff piece on Peter Chiarelli was actually an April fool’s day joke, just published 6-7 months early.

  40. Oilman99 says:

    Nuges Bank Account:
    Kevin Lowe to be hired as POHO according to an Oilersnation.com report. Holy Fck!!

    Please read the article before commenting.

  41. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Nuges Bank Account,

    Chris the Intern?

    On 1 April?

    Come on man…

  42. Oilman99 says:

    Alpine: The secret to Yotes success is basically just depth and a good goalie. They had enough forward depth and and D depth to sustain multiple injuries. They have roughly five top 4 Dmen in OEL, Hjalmarsson, Chychrun, Goligoski, and Demers plus they have Oesterle and Connauton who can play more than your average 3rd pairing does.

    No elite forwards to speak of, but guys like Hinostroza and Panik have been able to look like top six guys and they have a few bottom six guys who are also scoring well.

    When the Oilers piss away a high draft pick they get a worse player or a pick in return. When the Yotes flushed Domi, Strome, and Perlini they got former first rounders in return who were equal or better or a bit worse than what they traded away.

    Obviously Kuemper is a large part of their success, but some of that comes from good goaltender scouting. He always had average to decent numbers as a backup.

    Coyotes are proof that a team with 6-8 true NHL caliber forwards, and a real goalie are going to out distance a team with 3NHL caliber forwards and no goalie every time.

  43. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    ArmchairGM:
    @Woodguyv2.0

    What do the woodmoneys say about Shattenkirk? Not sure that he would accept a trade to EDM, but I’ve heard rumblings that NYR could trade him this summer and they may be willing to retain salary to do it. I don’t think he will cost much. Could he be our stop-gap 2RD next year, or is he strictly a 3rd pairing guy at this point?

    Are you on twitter? If so DM me @woodguy55

  44. Oilman99 says:

    Reja: Flames haven’t won jackshit until then I wouldn’t be talking about a model franchise. I hate this but flip Tkachuk for Jesse and both teams are different. It would sure be nice to see them and that traitor Hrudey eat crow if they have a early exit.

    The sad fact is ,the Flickers are living proof of what a real GM can do in one year.

  45. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    jtblack,

    ArmchairGM,

    Quick look:

    Woodmoneytier CTOI%
    Gritensity 32.5
    Middle 38.1
    Elite 29.4

    So his comp looks like high 3rd low 2nd pair this year

    Raw CF% vs Tier
    Woodmoneytier CF%
    Gritensity 50.3
    Middle 53.5
    Elite 46.2
    All 50.3

    Relative CF% vs Tier
    Woodmoneytier CF%RC
    Gritensity 4.9
    Middle 6.4
    Elite 2.6
    All 5.1

    Raw DFF% vs Tier
    Woodmoneytier DFF%
    Gritensity 49
    Middle 57
    Elite 49.6
    All 52.4

    Relative DFF% vs Tier
    Woodmoneytier DFF%RC
    Gritensity 2.4
    Middle 8.2
    Elite 3.4
    All 5.3

    So at first blush it looks like he did fairly well vs all levels of comp.

    I’d next check to see who his most common partner was and the wowy there (not woodwowy, they’re not ready yet, but a regular wowy would suffice) to see if he’s driving the bus

    Then I’d check his zone starts and OTF shifts vs elites compared to the other Rag Dmen to see if he’s getting a boost there.

    No time to do these now, but might this afternoon if time permits.

  46. Reja says:

    Bruce McCurdy: If Kretzky does all those things, maybe he *is* the right guy.

    Especially if he signs Woodguy.

    Deep down I hope it happens. Tell Kos to square himself better to the shooter come out a little deeper and not go down as much problem solved. Fire Swartz immediately and a couple other leaks on the payroll with that money hire Woodguy with his team on a 3 year contract.

  47. bendelson says:

    Melvis: I’m not particularly keen on spreading a rumour,

    You’re a bad, bad man Melvis…

  48. Reja says:

    Oilman99: The sad fact is ,the Flickers are living proof of what a real GM can do in one year.

    I would say Peters more than the GM

  49. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Reja,

    I take issue with this narrative, about blaming Dustin Schwartz exclusively.

    He’s very highly regarded in the goaltending world. An early adopter of head/puck tracking techniques.

    Schwartz was brought on by the WHL as their goaltending consultant, so obviously he’s trusted to develop talent beyond the Oilers.

    Cat Silverman made a great point on the Lowdown today that the Oilers recently fired the goaltending staff, after the Dubnyk debacle. What they haven’t done is make significant changes to the systems. She called it chaos in front of the net. Also referenced the situation in Carolina where they fired the goaltending staff and no changes to the systems and how it didn’t help their goals against. I’ve heard Woodley talk similarly on Gregor’s show, how the GM was calling out the goaltender but not allowing for the lack of fit between the goalie and the systems play.

    I think there’s more to it than a simple fire the coaches solution here.

  50. Reja says:

    Oilman99: Coyotes are proof that a team with 6-8 true NHL caliber forwards, and a real goalie are going to out distance a team with 3NHL caliber forwards and no goalie every time.

    You have a hard working low key team with so called less talent than most teams your still gonna win your share of games. There is a huge difference between playing and living in Phoenix where 99.5% of population couldn’t name or recognize a single player on the street and Hockey Crazy Edmonton where everything is under the microscope you think in Phoenix they would be chanting the name of a 2 mil winger that has ZERO goals because he got his feelings hurt.

  51. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Melvis:
    I’m not particularly keen on spreadinga rumour, but an Edmonton aquaintance of mine associated with the Nicholson family suggested Woodguy is on an Oilers interview list. In what capacity, I have no idea.

    Cough it up Darcy.

    Ha!

    Maybe for “staff shit disturber”

    If I’m on a list for EDM, it’s not a good list.

  52. texmex says:

    geowal: Rieder is a uFA, not rfa, as is Currie. So Currie likely also is a returning UFA, along with maybe Chiasson.

    Reider will be a RFA when his contract expires and will need to be qualified by the Oilers or else he becomes an UFA.

    https://www.capfriendly.com/players/tobias-rieder

  53. BONE207 says:

    jtblack:
    “I’ll have the fourth best hairdo in the room and will also trail badly in the smarts department. No matter, I’m loud!”

    LT – you are too funny!!Love it

    The funniest part is the Oilers winning record for April 2019.
    If only…

  54. ArmchairGM says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Are you on twitter?If so DM me @woodguy55

    No, I’m not.

  55. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Who remembers this Horcoff goal from 2006?

    Pronger’s stick snapped in 2 on a slapper, puck went the other way. On the rush back into the flames end, Phaneuf & Regehr each tripped on a piece of 44’s stick and Samsonov threaded the pass to Horc.

    https://youtu.be/iC78S9bw3VI?t=110

  56. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    ArmchairGM: No, I’m not.

    You should be, it’s hilarious when you manage to mute/block the idiots.

    Do you have an email you’d be cool with sharing here until I get it and then you can delete your post?

    I’ll refresh often so it won’t be up too long (I hope)

  57. Cassandra says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Reja,

    I take issue with this narrative, about blaming Dustin Schwartz exclusively.

    He’s very highly regarded in the goaltending world.An early adopter of head/puck tracking techniques.

    Schwartz was brought on by the WHL as their goaltending consultant, so obviously he’s trusted to develop talent beyond the Oilers.

    Cat Silverman made a great point on the Lowdown today that the Oilers recently fired the goaltending staff, after the Dubnyk debacle.What they haven’t done is make significant changes to the systems.She called it chaos in front of the net.Also referenced the situation in Carolina where they fired the goaltending staff and no changes to the systems and how it didn’t help their goals against.I’ve heard Woodley talk similarly on Gregor’s show, how the GM was calling out the goaltender but not allowing for the lack of fit between the goalie and the systems play.

    I think there’s more to it than a simple fire the coaches solution here.

    Blaming bad goaltending on “systems” or poor defense can’t be inferred from low save percentage numbers. It is just story telling after the fact and, if anything, gets the direction wrong.

    On balance, there is not a big difference in shot quality given up from team to team. There is no evidence that some teams, either through talent or by design, do a significantly better job of keeping shots to the outside.

    Insofar as there is a difference in shot quality given up from team to team, it is the better teams that give up higher quality shots. That is because the team that is controlling the play, who have the puck in the opposition end, are more likely to give up shots going the other way on the break. The better teams get more chances, and they get more high quality chances, however a greater percentage of the shots they give up are high quality chances, which would have the effect of lowering the save percentage on teams that are good.

    Carolina had low save percentages under Peters. Now Calgary under Peters has Rittich at .911 and Smith at .898. Which one of those is the “system?”

    Bad goalies have low save percentages. Don’t blame low save percentages on bad defenses. Blame the goalie. If you look at the list of save percentages the bottom is filled with AHL guys, callups, backups with track records of being marginal, and old guys on their way out. It isn’t the defense. It is the goalie.

  58. Reja says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Reja,

    I take issue with this narrative, about blaming Dustin Schwartz exclusively.

    He’s very highly regarded in the goaltending world.An early adopter of head/puck tracking techniques.

    Schwartz was brought on by the WHL as their goaltending consultant, so obviously he’s trusted to develop talent beyond the Oilers.

    Cat Silverman made a great point on the Lowdown today that the Oilers recently fired the goaltending staff, after the Dubnyk debacle.What they haven’t done is make significant changes to the systems.She called it chaos in front of the net.Also referenced the situation in Carolina where they fired the goaltending staff and no changes to the systems and how it didn’t help their goals against.I’ve heard Woodley talk similarly on Gregor’s show, how the GM was calling out the goaltender but not allowing for the lack of fit between the goalie and the systems play.

    I think there’s more to it than a simple fire the coaches solution here.

    Results matter his technique is not working. Brossoit is much better not going down as much Talbot career is in jeopardy and half of Edmonton wants to run Kos out of town before his contract even starts. Go back to all the goalies he’s coached they all get Burned up high more than any other teams Goaltenders that I’ve watched. I wish there was a stat for up high goals league percentage wise to see if my eyes are playing tricks on me.

  59. bendelson says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Ha!

    Maybe for “staff shit disturber”

    If I’m on a list for EDM, it’s not a good list.

    That’s a deflection Tomas Holmstrom would be proud of…

  60. leadfarmer says:

    Cassandra,

    I like how you use Flames, a team that also has bad save percentages as your example.
    How about the Isles. They had net negative roster turnover (had better players last year than this year)
    They were playing Doug Weights the 5 Russells defensive system.
    This year they are playing a very highly structured system and went from last to first in goals allowed. Greiss improved his sp by 30 points. Halaks significantly improved from last years issues.
    So are you saying its not the system? (When the best swing in last 12 months is very clearly system related)

  61. leadfarmer says:

    Cassandra,

    Actually there sometimes is a big difference in shot quality given up by teams.
    Gibson is facing 8.25 HD shots a game. That is left high and dry by the team. Anything more than 8 is leaning crazy hard on your goalie
    Part of the reason Wild fans are wanting Dubnyk gone is he had a rough year and only faced 4.8 HD shots a game. That is very heavily sheltered by your defense
    So when begin to start a narrative. You should probably first check if the narrative is even remotely true

  62. ArmchairGM says:

    As an aside, did anyone else catch the backhand through the legs no look touch pass by Donskoi last night? This guy is high on my list of off season targets.

  63. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Cassandra,

    Actually there sometimes is a big difference in shot quality given up by teams.
    Gibson is facing 8.25 HD shots a game.That is left high and dry by the team.Anything more than 8 is leaning crazy hard on your goalie
    Part of the reason Wild fans are wanting Dubnyk gone is he had a rough year and only faced 4.8 HD shots a game.That is very heavily sheltered by your defense
    So when begin to start a narrative.You should probably first check if the narrative is even remotely true

    Yeah, you can see it in the xGA/60 too

    NYI xGA/60

    16/17 2.54
    17/18 2.82
    18/19 1.96

  64. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Cassandra,

    Leadfarmer did a better job than my take, but nonetheless… Duby admitted he changed basically nothing other than implementing head tracking when he was working with Sean Burke. Chabot wasn’t teaching those skills. Schwartz is. He went from nearly out of the league to a Vezina candidate.

    Reja,

    Broissoit, the best backup in the league this year? Playing behind that paltry d-line with atrocious systems in WPG?

    My take on Koskinen is he looks to be a league average tender with some issues like top corners, going down too early and not playing the angles properly. I hope they can be ironed out with practice and dedicated training. Any improvements in these areas will only look better playing behind competent D and systems play.

    The point of my post is it seems rash to assume that just Schwartz is the problem. To my eye there is too much chaos in our own end. We need more structure and less starfish.

  65. Genjutsu says:

    frjohnk:
    “The Arizona Coyotes are driving toward a spot but may finish just shy. The number of injuries endured over the season makes the group a major story. Edmonton’s management could learn some things from that organization, too.”

    I think the Yotes do a few strange things ( Strome trade, Schmaltz signing) but that the fact that they are close to a playoff spot despite the amount of injuries ( 364 man games lost) is indeed a major story.

    Oilers had just under league average injuries ( 177 man games lost) and just over league average injuries to top 6 forwards + top 4 Dman ( when including Klef and Sek in top 4) have two 100 point scorers and are behind the Yotes.

    The lesson to be learned from Arizona is clear: get good goal tending.

    A really great goalie can compensate for a poor roster and injuries.

  66. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Genjutsu: The lesson to be learned from Arizona is clear: get good goal tending.

    A really great goalie can compensate for a poor roster and injuries.

    Have a deep Dcorps who can pass the puck as well

  67. Dustylegnd says:

    Great Article in the Athletic today Re: Ralph Kruger

    “You can never say never about coaching, but I really enjoy the growth of actually being in a role where you hire the best possible people, so that everybody you bring into an organization is actually better than you at what they do,’’

    I really think that we do some things in the Premier League and in global football that are unique and different. And I think if you amalgamated and mixed the two together, it could be pretty powerful for an organization.’’

    In the interest of preserving the journalistic integrity and acknowledging the pay wall I will not provide any further quotes, it is a quick but salient read….Kruger is exactly what the Oilers need..

    Of course they will not even consider him as POHO …because Oilers

  68. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Yeah, you can see it in the xGA/60 too

    NYI xGA/60

    16/17 2.54
    17/18 2.82
    18/19 1.96

    Good point.
    In the end Koskinen needs to be better next year. The transition over from KHL is pretty significant see where the other KHL goalies from last year are playing. Very different game.
    Hope he settles in and our defensive structure improves so he has the ability to gain confidence.
    I hope new GM realizes this and finds a good 1B starter. I worry that this doesnt happen and when Koskinen falters they scramble and overpay for a goalie.

    If it was up to me I would try to get Raanta or Halak or maybe sign Elliott.
    Varlamov will be too expensive and too often injured but he may need to come down on his price point given lack of potential suitors, and someone to keep an eye on if other options are vanishing
    Also I’d be very happy if we could get Samsonov but hes still a year away

  69. OriginalPouzar says:

    For Tonight:

    Seems Rattie in and Rieder out:

    Draisaitl-McDavid-Kassian
    Gambardella-RNH-Chiasson
    Lucic-Cave-Gagner
    Rattie-Malone-Currie

  70. leadfarmer says:

    Genjutsu: The lesson to be learned from Arizona is clear: get good goal tending.

    A really great goalie can compensate for a poor roster and injuries.

    And Kuemper is only their second best goalie too.

  71. Reja says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Cassandra,

    Leadfarmer did a better job than my take, but nonetheless… Duby admitted he changed basically nothing other than implementing head tracking when he was working with Sean Burke.Chabot wasn’t teaching those skills.Schwartz is.He went from nearly out of the league to a Vezina candidate.

    Reja,

    Broissoit, the best backup in the league this year?Playing behind that paltry d-line with atrocious systems in WPG?

    My take on Koskinen is he looks to be a league average tender with some issues like top corners, going down too early and not playing the angles properly.I hope they can be ironed out with practice and dedicated training.Any improvements in these areas will only look better playing behind competent D and systems play.

    The point of my post is it seems rash to assume that just Schwartz is the problem.To my eye there is too much chaos in our own end.We need more structure and less starfish.

    Kos is hasek flexible never seen a man that tall be so nimble. I wish I could find more footage of his play in the KHL but I think his style has changed where he’s down more all these Goaltenders that are talented enough to make the NHL got there playing a certain style then are asked or convinced to play a slightly different way might throw them off His technique might work for kids that need learning but I do believe that you can be over coached.

  72. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    For Tonight:

    Seems Rattie in and Rieder out:

    Draisaitl-McDavid-Kassian
    Gambardella-RNH-Chiasson
    Lucic-Cave-Gagner
    Rattie-Malone-Currie

    Malone scores to the chants of his name tonight.

  73. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    leadfarmer: Good point.
    In the end Koskinen needs to be better next year.The transition over from KHL is pretty significant see where the other KHL goalies from last year are playing. Very different game.
    Hope he settles in and our defensive structure improves so he has the ability to gain confidence.
    I hope new GM realizes this and finds a good 1B starter.I worry that this doesnt happen and when Koskinen falters they scramble and overpay for a goalie.

    If it was up to me I would try to get Raanta or Halak or maybe sign Elliott.
    Varlamov will be too expensive and too often injured but he may need to come down on his price point given lack of potential suitors, and someone to keep an eye on if other options are vanishing
    Also I’d be very happy if we could get Samsonov but hes still a year away

    I like Elliott and Halak too.

    EDM will probably try for Mrazek, who while he had a good year, has been very, very erratic and via Catherine Silverman, doesn’t have a good base of structured movement to be consistent over time.

  74. Reja says:

    leadfarmer: Good point.
    In the end Koskinen needs to be better next year.The transition over from KHL is pretty significant see where the other KHL goalies from last year are playing. Very different game.
    Hope he settles in and our defensive structure improves so he has the ability to gain confidence.
    I hope new GM realizes this and finds a good 1B starter.I worry that this doesnt happen and when Koskinen falters they scramble and overpay for a goalie.

    If it was up to me I would try to get Raanta or Halak or maybe sign Elliott.
    Varlamov will be too expensive and too often injured but he may need to come down on his price point given lack of potential suitors, and someone to keep an eye on if other options are vanishing
    Also I’d be very happy if we could get Samsonov but hes still a year away

    I’m sure they tried signing these types of Goalies over the years there’s no way in hell they’re coming here unless it’s last stop or heavy overpayment Edmonton is a tough town to play between the pipes just ask Roloson when they were torturing his sons at school if I remember correctly.

  75. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    You dont think Carolina re-signs Mrazek?
    I dont think he will be available

  76. LadiesloveSmid says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    For Tonight:

    Seems Rattie in and Rieder out:

    Draisaitl-McDavid-Kassian
    Gambardella-RNH-Chiasson
    Lucic-Cave-Gagner
    Rattie-Malone-Currie

    5 forwards have spent time in the AHL this year (and are more than likely career minor leaguers). 1 waived. 1 PTO until September. Lucic is averaging less than 1 SOG/GP.

    Can’t believe how bad Rieder screwed this team over, could use Hendricks to round out the roster. My critical thinking skills are gud

  77. Yeti says:

    Melvis: I’m not particularly keen on spreading a rumour, but an Edmonton aquaintance of mine associated with the Nicholson family suggested Woodguy is on an Oilers interview list. In what capacity, I have no idea.

    Given that he’s already turned them down twice for the GM position, I seriously doubt this is true.

  78. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    You dont think Carolina re-signs Mrazek?
    I dont think he will be available

    I’m not sure what they do.

    Good point though.

    If they don’t re-sign McElhinney he would be another target for 1B here, although behind Halak and Elliott.

  79. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Yeti: Given that he’s already turned them down twice for the GM position, I seriously doubt this is true.

    They wouldn’t give me POHO too like Pete.

    Fuck that.

  80. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    ArmchairGM,

    Sent an email, let me know

  81. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Dustylegnd:
    Great Article in the Athletic today Re: Ralph Kruger

    “You can never say never about coaching, but I really enjoy the growth of actually being in a role where you hire the best possible people, so that everybody you bring into an organization is actually better than you at what they do,’’

    I really think that we do some things in the Premier League and in global football that are unique and different. And I think if you amalgamated and mixed the two together, it could be pretty powerful for an organization.’’

    In the interest of preserving the journalistic integrity and acknowledging the pay wall I will not provide any further quotes, it is a quick but salient read….Kruger is exactly what the Oilers need..

    Of course they will not even consider him as POHO …because Oilers

    I strongly suspect he wouldn’t want to be in the Oilers sphere much.

  82. Dustylegnd says:

    Scungilli Slushy: I strongly suspect he wouldn’t want to be in the Oilers sphere much.

    ohh but if he was POHO with real power…he could Skype MacT at his cabin on Okanagan Lake and thank him for his contributions say around July 2nd

  83. godot10 says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Woodguy. Please answer the Shattenkirk question before accepting the position with the Oliers and going dark.

    Shattenkirk has fallen into the Franson triangle. He is done. He is not worth the money even if the Rangers retained 50%. I wouldn’t even trade Russell for him.

  84. Material Elvis says:

    LT, is your podcast going to be posted today?

  85. Material Elvis says:

    godot10: Shattenkirk has fallen into the Franson triangle.He is done.He is not worth the money even if the Rangers retained 50%.I wouldn’t even trade Russell for him.

    And they wanted to trade Taylor Hall for him…..yeesh!

  86. godot10 says:

    dustrock:
    I’m sure Woodguy is too professional to comment but if they’re looking at him, then that’s a good sign.

    I will go ahead and assume silence from Woodguy can be implied that he has been interviewed

    Good luck!

    Melvis chuckles.

  87. RonnieB says:

    Woodguy v2.0,
    Hey Woodguy.

    A special note of thanks to you.

    Because of a post you made last Fall, i decided for the 1st time to check out Online Sports Betting.
    I opened a Bodog account and placed small wagers on this season:
    Arizona over 80.5 points; Carolina over 84.5; Toronto under 106.5; Vegas under 96.5.

    I’ll be cheering louder than ever for the Oilers against Vegas tonight so i can win all 4 bets.

    In the meantime i went into my account Saturday night and used a bit of my winnings to bet on Kevin Kisner to win the Dell Match Play Championship on Sunday. That added a tidy $150 profit.

    Many thanks to you.

  88. Lowetide says:

    Material Elvis:
    LT, is your podcast going to be posted today?

    It was, hours ago. I retweeted on twitter and it should be on soundcloud
    https://soundcloud.com/lowdownwithlowetide

  89. godot10 says:

    Material Elvis: And they wanted to trade Taylor Hall for him…..yeesh!

    If I were a power play specialist away and had five other real defensemen, Shattenkirk would be useful. Otherwise, what’s the point. Shattenkirk would occupy the #3RD spot, and the OIlers have that spot covered several times over.

  90. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    I do hope they look at you for advanced stats department even if it starts with choosing wood for the bar for the wine meetings until a new guy kicks these guys out
    Eyeball method is still important but these guys are blind

    You have the good ability to stick by your guns but also realize that someone else may be doing it better which is going to be crucial in this field

    I dont live in Edmonton so I dont know what level of advanced stats they use but whenever a conversation on it happens we seem to be always absent

  91. leadfarmer says:

    Shattenkirk is the answer if the question is who we could trade Lucic for

  92. leadfarmer says:

    Also Georgiev may be someone we could acquire as backup. Lundqvist is still playing and they need room for Shestyorkin
    So add him to the may be helpful and available
    Halak
    Raanta
    Elliott
    Georgiev
    Mcbackup
    Varlamov pile

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    russ99:
    How much of this GM delay is timing for the least amount public outcry, especially if they do as we suspect and keep the old boys at all costs, “culture” and all that, with the initial excuse being that they have to stay to work on the draft and FA.

    If they wait until July to make the GM/POHO moves most fans are into summer and on vacation and not super into hockey.

    Also, if they were going to make substantial front office changes, the best people available on the job market are available April-May, not July-August, and we may miss the boat on the best GM candidates too.

    Something smells in Denmark about all this, as the saying goes.

    What delay? The regular season isn’t even over yet – there are a swarth of candidate they aren’t at liberty to even talk to yet.

    They have been clear they are going to do a fullsome search and its going to take time.

  94. hunter1909 says:

    Dustylegnd: ohh but if he was POHO with real power…he could Skype MacT at his cabin on Okanagan Lake and thank him for his contributions say around July 2nd

    Exactly why he’s never returning.

  95. Buddy says:

    In Mexico at the moment, just giving the thread a quick read. When I saw that Kevin Lowe is to be the next POHO I almost blew half a Corona out my left eye socket, along with most of my brain

    April Fools, indeed!

  96. Genjutsu says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Have a deep Dcorps who can pass the puck as well

    That’s the hope for the future. Actually it looks really promising.

    So Chia did the best amateur work while completely fucking the pro side.

    I guess it could have been worse.

  97. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    godot10: Shattenkirk has fallen into the Franson triangle.He is done.He is not worth the money even if the Rangers retained 50%.I wouldn’t even trade Russell for him.

    His results this year suggest otherwise, but I haven’t dug deep enough yet to say that with certainty.

  98. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Genjutsu: That’s the hope for the future. Actually it looks really promising.

    So Chia did the best amateur work while completely fucking the pro side.

    I guess it could have been worse.

    Agreed, but what he did on the pro side is so egregious

    Wasting any McDavid year is a crime

  99. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    RonnieB:
    Woodguy v2.0,
    Hey Woodguy.

    A special note of thanks to you.

    Because of a post you made last Fall, i decided for the 1st time to check out Online Sports Betting.
    I opened a Bodog account and placed small wagers on this season:
    Arizona over 80.5 points; Carolina over 84.5; Toronto under 106.5; Vegas under 96.5.

    I’ll be cheering louder than ever for the Oilers against Vegas tonight so i can win all 4 bets.

    In the meantime i went into my account Saturday night and used a bit of my winnings to bet on Kevin Kisner to win the Dell Match Play Championship on Sunday.That added a tidy $150 profit.

    Many thanks to you.

    Nice!

    Only bet what you afford to set on fire!!!!

    I’ve seen too many people get too deep and wreck their lives.

    I went 8/9 on my O/U this year.

    Bets I hit on Bodog: TOR under 106.5 (-115), ARI over 80.5 (-115), CAR over 84.5 (-115).

    Bets I hit on Pinnacle: ARI over 81.5 (-137), CAR over 86.5 (-115), DAL under 94.5 (-110…pending but probable), NYI over 82.5 (-115) and VGK under 97.5 (-109….pending but probable)

    Only one I missed:

    EDM over 91.5.

    I’m a sucker for the home team.

    I look forward to pissing away my winnings on playoff match ups.

    I think I’m betting on starting goalies only unless both starters are really close.

  100. Melvis says:

    godot10: Melvis chuckles.

  101. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    I do hope they look at you for advanced stats department even if it starts with choosing wood for the bar for the wine meetings until a new guy kicks these guys out
    Eyeball method is still important but these guys are blind

    You have the good ability to stick by your guns but also realize that someone else may be doing it better which is going to be crucial in this field

    I dont live in Edmonton so I dont know what level of advanced stats they use but whenever a conversation on it happens we seem to be always absent

    Thanks LF, I appreciate that a lot.

    The guy they should hire is GMoney because he understands the data, data organizing side vis a vis his software/database etc AND he’s got Masters level statistics chops AND he understands hockey AND and I think he has the ability to communicate what the data says in Hockey Language to Hockey People and that’s crucial for acceptance of data in hockey orgs.

    I think I have the last two.

    I have none of the first and only a bit of the second.

  102. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Well hope when they do open up shop it will not be a one guy thing. A department needs, well a department. Guys with ideas. Havent heard from G-money in a long time but you guys work well together.
    If I had a hockey team I’d hire you guys
    Now if any one has 500 mil laying around.
    Not a lot of money to be made in the farming lead department

  103. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Also Georgiev may be someone we could acquire as backup.Lundqvist is still playing and they need room for Shestyorkin
    So add him to the may be helpful and available
    Halak
    Raanta
    Elliott
    Georgiev
    Mcbackup
    Varlamov pile

    Georgiev is Lundqvist’s heir.

    He’s not going anywhere.

  104. OriginalPouzar says:

    geowal:
    Rieder is a uFA, not rfa, as is Currie. So Currie likely also is a returning UFA, along with maybe Chiasson.

    Currie is under contract for next season, at $687,500.

    Rieder is an RFA not a UFA – the reason we were able to sign him as a UFA last year is because he wasn’t qualified by ARI – similar to what is going to happen with this year.

  105. hunter1909 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    Well hope when they do open up shop it will not be a one guy thing.A department needs, well a department.Guys with ideas.Havent heard from G-money in a long time but you guys work well together.
    If I had a hockey team I’d hire you guys
    Now if any one has 500 mil laying around.
    Not a lot of money to be made in the farming lead department

    Try farming Chalk.

  106. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    Well hope when they do open up shop it will not be a one guy thing.A department needs, well a department.Guys with ideas.Havent heard from G-money in a long time but you guys work well together.
    If I had a hockey team I’d hire you guys
    Now if any one has 500 mil laying around.
    Not a lot of money to be made in the farming lead department

    Yeah, if it were up to me I’d:

    Hire G to create the department

    He’d probably hire 2 data/database guys to handle all the data available from the NHL, AHL and other feeder leagues. (There’s a lot of video scraping to create data from feeder leagues going on as well as other data from feeder leagues)

    Hire 2-3 guys to convert the data into usable values for all the NHL and feeder leagues data – this includes using historical data to predict future NHL performance (that’s a HUGE job where you need Masters level stats guys)

    G would then use the results the second group produces to help direct amateur and pro scouting to identify organization targets so the eyeballs scouts can find out the stuff the numbers don’t show about the targets.

    That’s off the top of my head, I’m sure I missed a lot of details.

  107. New Improved Darkness says:

    Andy Dufresne: Especially if he signs Woodguy and McCurdy.

    Oh dear, that brings to mind a sturdy pine box—a pine-lover’s pine—rendered as dark and claustrophobic (and lined with thick lead felt) as if Woodguy informed Bruce that the Bettman point would soon be freshly sealed inside, only it might again escape into the wild through the least pinhole, casually adding “and oh—by the way—help yourself to the atomic bench plane—or even the Rock Snot wood glue no-one else has ever dared to unpackage—if you think that might in any way assist our common cause.”

    He sits there on his world-class ass and has the nerve to ask me why? Yeste. Come to me sometime with a challenge. Once, just once, ride up and say, “Domingo, I need a sword for an eighty-year-old man to fight a duel,” and I would embrace you and cry “Yes!” Because to make a sword for an eighty-year-old man to survive a duel, that would be something. Because the sword would have to be strong enough to win, yet light enough not to tire his weary arm. I would have to use my all to find an unknown metal, strong but very light, or devise a different formula for a known one, mix some bronze with some iron and some air in a way ignored for a thousand years. I would kiss your smelly feet for an opportunity like that, fat Yeste. But to make a stupid sword with stupid jewels in the form of stupid initials so some stupid Italian can thrill his stupid mistress, no. That, I will not do.

    But no, not this time.

    Bruce: “Uh, did you just mention interring the Bettman point in a dark, claustrophobic box until Hell boils over?”

    Woodguy: [Uncharacteristic silence]

    Bruce: Ahhhhh, ahhhh my hair’s on fire … where do I even begin? Bring me the Wakanda girl. We must work.

    But then a small worry intrudes into Bruce’s consciousness, high glove.

    Bruce: Uh, tell me my friend, why pine and not spruce?

    Woodguy: Trust me on this one.

    Bruce: You’re sure?

    Woodguy: Actually, it’s an Australian bull-oak laminate with a Janka 5000 inside layer and a fine, pine facing, so as not to be nicked by undead-aligned cosplay D&Ders ever on vigil for authentic adamantium quarterstaves.

    Bruce: Quarterstaves?

    Woodguy: The planks on this stout “pine” box are so thick, you could turn five 7′ long bull-oak quarterstaves to the lateral foot, with a stout-as-a-trout 2″-diameter Friar Tuck combat grip.

    Bruce: [calculates momentarily] That brute of a stave would weigh 5 kg!

    Woodguy: 5.2 kg rough—before the final balance-taper, buff, and varnish.

    Bruce: Wow! I had no idea that cosplay amounted to actual exercise. Lordy—if I may say so—that’s one thick box. Hey, you did leave enough room on the inside for the copious lead foil? And—just how big is the Bettman point, anyway? I’ve never seen the jagged ding-dong up close and personal.

    Woodguy: It’s shaped like a large zucchini. A very large zucchini.

    Bruce: So there’s plenty of room inside BOB—the Bull Oak Box—for the air- and nadrad-tight Fukushima interior double-wrap?

    Woodguy: Well, not exactly a 3rd liner’s cornucopia of fulsome gappage—the giant zucch is only 18″ shy of Guinness. Pretty much eye level to Bettman’s alter ego.

    According to the Guinness Book of World Records, the longest zucchini ever grown was 7 feet 10.3 inches, and the heaviest zucchini ever grown was 64 pounds, 8 oz.

    Bruce: [Briefly ponders whether the third-liner in question is Nuge or Rieder, but lets the matter slide.] Harrumph. Typical Bettman—always the Bridesmaid, never The Bride.

    Anti-x-ray protective lead underwear genital gland triangle radiology intervention lead pants

  108. hunter1909 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Yeah, if it were up to me I’d:

    Hire G to create the department

    He’d probably hire 2 data/database guys to handle all the data available from the NHL, AHL and other feeder leagues. (There’s a lot of video scraping to create data from feeder leagues going on as well as other data from feeder leagues)

    Hire 2-3 guys to convert the data into usable values for all the NHL and feeder leagues data – this includes using historical data to predict future NHL performance (that’s a HUGE job where you need Masters level stats guys)

    G would then use the results the second group produces to help direct amateur and pro scouting to identify organization targets so the eyeballs scouts can find out the stuff the numbers don’t show about the targets.

    That’s off the top of my head, I’m sure I missed a lot of details.

    I’d pay $20.00 to see Kevin Lowe’s expression as someone tries to explain it to him.

  109. Reja says:

    godot10: Shattenkirk has fallen into the Franson triangle.He is done.He is not worth the money even if the Rangers retained 50%.I wouldn’t even trade Russell for him.

    I have a good feeling we move up somewhere in the top 3 of the draft. I think that draft pick will definitely be in play to get rid of Lucic in a bold move trade. I thought he could hang in for the expansion but he has to go this offseason he’s being a professional but he’s miserable a black cloud around him I predict he will no longer be a Oiler opening day.

  110. godot10 says:

    Reja: I have a good feeling we move up somewhere in the top 3 of the draft. I think that draft pick will definitely be in play to get rid of Lucic in a bold move trade. I thought he could hang in for the expansion but he has to go this offseason he’s being a professional but he’s miserable a black cloud around him I predict he will no longer be a Oiler opening day.

    Lucic can sit in the press box. I’m not trading Cozens or Byram. Don’t compound the Lucic mistake by making another.

  111. Yeti says:

    hunter1909: I’d pay $20.00 to see Kevin Lowe’s expression as someone tries to explain it to him.

    I’m sure they’d hire you as their PR guy.

  112. Reja says:

    godot10: Lucic can sit in the press box.I’m not trading Cozens or Byram.Don’t compound the Lucic mistake by making another.

    You can’t have that Black Cloud in the dressing room between him and Hitch being miserable it brings everyone else down. That free’s up 6 mil then either Sekera Nurse Russell or kelfbom will be dealt.

  113. hunter1909 says:

    Yeti: I’m sure they’d hire you as their PR guy.

    I’d tell Katz to keep the OBC far away from running the team, hire the best available talent for the front office on short term deals that pay a lot of money, and let that Katz son who goes to every draft start hanging around the team if he wants to.

    Then I start producing a movie so Katz can attend the parties.
    Katz would love me.

  114. ArmchairGM says:

    Reja: You can’t have that Black Cloud in the dressing room between him and Hitch being miserable it brings everyone else down. That free’s up 6 mil then either Sekera Nurse Russell or kelfbom will be dealt.

    He doesn’t come into the dressing room if he’s PBd

  115. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: Lucic can sit in the press box.I’m not trading Cozens or Byram.Don’t compound the Lucic mistake by making another.

    Absolutely, unless there is actually some value coming back (in addition to discarding of Lucic, clean), trading the 1st rounder to dispose of Lucic would be egregious.

    Young, talented, cost controlled, expansion draft exempt assets that will likely provide value contracts are massive for this organization over the next few years.

  116. Scungilli Slushy says:

    godot10: Lucic can sit in the press box.I’m not trading Cozens or Byram.Don’t compound the Lucic mistake by making another.

    I’ve said I wouldn’t trade this year’s first. But I would now if it wasn’t one of Hughes, Kamloops, Cozens or Byram. I feel those 4 are either potential impact players or very valuable to the Oilers.

    I don’t see anyone else as a fairly sure thing.

    I would not trade a first with how high the Oilers will pick to trade Luc. Salary retention will do it or it’s not worth it.

    One player doesn’t sink any team. They can trade Russell and Sekera and have decent coverage. Finding a decent 2RD is possible. Hainsey for example if he doesn’t resign in TO. Stop gap.

  117. Professor Q says:

    Scungilli Slushy: I’ve said I wouldn’t trade this year’s first. But I would now if it wasn’t one of Hughes, Kamloops, Cozens or Byram. I feel those 4 are either potential impact players or very valuable to the Oilers.

    I don’t see anyone else as a fairly sure thing.

    I would not trade a first with how high the Oilers will pick to trade Luc. Salary retention will do it or it’s not worth it.

    One player doesn’t sink any team. They can trade Russell and Sekera and have decent coverage. Finding a decent2RDis possible. Hainsey for example if he doesn’t resign in TO. Stop gap.

    Do we get the entire Kamloops Blazers team in this scenario?

  118. Reja says:

    ArmchairGM: He doesn’t come into the dressing room if he’s PBd

    Ok but you have to tell him face to face he’s in the PB. Seriously can’t see that happening

  119. McNuge93 says:

    Scungilli Slushy: I’ve said I wouldn’t trade this year’s first. But I would now if it wasn’t one of Hughes, Kamloops, Cozens or Byram. I feel those 4 are either potential impact players or very valuable to the Oilers.

    I don’t see anyone else as a fairly sure thing.

    I would not trade a first with how high the Oilers will pick to trade Luc. Salary retention will do it or it’s not worth it.

    One player doesn’t sink any team. They can trade Russell and Sekera and have decent coverage. Finding a decent2RDis possible. Hainsey for example if he doesn’t resign in TO. Stop gap.

    But what if the trade includes an asset coming back e.g. Horvat or Boeser plus a Lucic dump for Hughes

  120. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Georgiev is Lundqvist’s heir.

    He’s not going anywhere.

    Actually Shestyorkin is Lundqvist heir and is unversally regraded as a top goaltending prospect
    Georgiev is making things a little more complicated though

  121. leadfarmer says:

    New Improved Darkness,

    Might have to get Mrs Leadfarmer some of those stylish underwear

  122. Reja says:

    Seen a big story on the news about how there’s female refs in every league but the NHL and there will be soon they talked about them trying to keep pace but never mentioned how a female ref is able to breakup a fight unless they ban fighting how long before a female ref gets seriously hurt trying to stop a scrap between two heavyweights.

  123. Professor Q says:

    Reja:
    Seen a big story on the news about how there’s female refs in every league but theNHL and there will be soon they talked about them trying to keep pace but never mentioned how a female ref is able to breakup a fight unless they ban fighting how long before a female ref gets seriously hurt trying to stop a scrap between two heavyweights.

    NHL refs don’t even break up fights currently anyway. A woman ref and/or lineswoman would be perfectly capable.

    Need more non-conventional picks in the front office and on the coaching staff. It’s worked for the Leafs, too.

    Say, Wickenheiser might have learned a lot from Dubas and Shanahan by now? Or maybe in a few years? Could be a good candidate for Edmonton’s AGM in a few.

  124. Maoriduvpoojt says:

    Dustylegnd:
    Great Article in the Athletic today Re: Ralph Kruger

    “You can never say never about coaching, but I really enjoy the growth of actually being in a role where you hire the best possible people, so that everybody you bring into an organization is actually better than you at what they do,’’

    I really think that we do some things in the Premier League and in global football that are unique and different. And I think if you amalgamated and mixed the two together, it could be pretty powerful for an organization.’’

    In the interest of preserving the journalistic integrity and acknowledging the pay wall I will not provide any further quotes, it is a quick but salient read….Kruger is exactly what the Oilers need..

    Of course they will not even consider him as POHO …because Oilers

    He would be an excellent choice, besides POHO should be the first hire, so Nicholson isn’t hiring the GM.

  125. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar: I don’t see anyone else as a fairly sure thing.

    If we win the draft Vancouver will pay huge to get Hughes Lucic contract would be gone plus another good player in return. I would do it everyone wins I’m putting on my Dave Dryden Oiler jersey at the same time praying to the hockey gods. Come on Oilers let’s do what you do best and win this draft lottery.

  126. Gerta Rauss says:

    Halak is signed for 1 more year in Boston..yes..?

  127. Reja says:

    Professor Q: NHL refs don’t even break up fights currently anyway. A woman ref and/or lineswoman would be perfectly capable.

    Need more non-conventional picks in the front office and on the coaching staff. It’s worked for the Leafs, too.

    Say, Wickenheiser might have learned a lot from Dubas and Shanahan by now? Or maybe in a few years? Could be a good candidate for Edmonton’s AGM in a few.

    Will find out soon enough I quess you don’t see two or three fights going on at the same time anymore.

  128. Woodguy v2.0 says:
  129. Munny says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Halak is signed for 1 more year in Boston..yes..?

    Yup. He didn’t come cheap, but I believe the Brus are pretty happy with him.

  130. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Munny: Yup.He didn’t come cheap, but I believe the Brus are pretty happy with him.

    Damn.

  131. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    leadfarmer: Actually Shestyorkin is Lundqvist heir and is unversally regraded as a top goaltending prospect
    Georgiev is making things a little more complicated though

    If that’s the case I sit corrected.

    I assumed Georgiev.

    I knew they had a good young Russian goalie but I forgot WSH does Russia better than any other team and had two.

    Oops.

  132. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Munny: Yup.He didn’t come cheap, but I believe the Brus are pretty happy with him.

    That might be the best value contract outside of an ELC in the league.

    I have no idea why I assumed he only signed for 1 year in BOS.

  133. Munny says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Damn.

    Ever wonder if someone at the mall might have slipped you one of them dreaded chiaphones rather than the cellphone you thought you bought?

    😉

  134. Munny says:

    Woodguy v2.0: but I forgot WSH does Russia better

    Shestyorkin … Georgiev… WSH?

  135. Munny says:

    Woodguy v2.0: That might be the best value contract outside of an ELC in the league.

    Just keeping it at backup goalie… Rittich provided a lot of bang for the buck this year too.

  136. OriginalPouzar says:

    Scungilli Slushy: I’ve said I wouldn’t trade this year’s first. But I would now if it wasn’t one of Hughes, Kamloops, Cozens or Byram. I feel those 4 are either potential impact players or very valuable to the Oilers.

    I don’t see anyone else as a fairly sure thing.

    I would not trade a first with how high the Oilers will pick to trade Luc. Salary retention will do it or it’s not worth it.

    One player doesn’t sink any team. They can trade Russell and Sekera and have decent coverage. Finding a decent2RDis possible. Hainsey for example if he doesn’t resign in TO. Stop gap.

    Yup, there are ways to make the disposition happen related to salary retention (and possibly having multiple teams involved) that are much less egregious than giving up a top 10 pick – that’s a not starter unless a real piece is coming back.

  137. OriginalPouzar says:

    McNuge93: But what if the trade includes an asset coming back e.g. Horvat or Boeser plus a Lucic dump for Hughes

    Getting back an asset as material as one of those along with the Lucic disposition isn’t realistic in my opinion – as great as Hughes is supposed to be.

  138. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    No worries.
    https://theathletic.com/896423/2019/03/29/georgiev-continues-to-complicate-the-rangers-future-decision/

    It must be hard to have such complications.
    “Which one of my three excellent goalies do I want to play today, Hmphhh??!?
    (Stroking moustache)

  139. OriginalPouzar says:

    Maoriduvpoojt: He would be an excellent choice, besides POHO should be the first hire, so Nicholson isn’t hiring the GM.

    Nicholson states expressly that he is currently looking for a GM not a POHO (in response to the direct question from Gregor a few weeks ago) so we know that’s not happening….

  140. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar: Getting back an asset as material as one of those along with the Lucic disposition isn’t realistic in my opinion – as great as Hughes is supposed to be.

    I think the Canucks will try very hard to get the Hughes brothers together, and they will be smart to do so

  141. OriginalPouzar says:

    Munny: Yup.He didn’t come cheap, but I believe the Brus are pretty happy with him.

    He came at essentially the same price as Koskinen did this year mind you…..

    A bit of a better bet one would say.

    Not revisionist history either – I wanted Lehner or Halak (or Bernier) prior to signing Koskinen on May 1.

  142. BONE207 says:

    Ahhh yes…our greatest April fool…Gene…get a damn haircut!!!

  143. Nailer Yakumoto says:

    Gene had me for about 10 seconds.

  144. JimmyV1965 says:

    Reja: If we win the draft Vancouver will pay huge to get Hughes Lucic contract would be gone plus anothergood player in return. I would do it everyone wins I’m putting on my Dave Dryden Oiler jersey at the same time praying to the hockey gods. Come on Oilers let’s do what you do best and win this draft lottery.

    Interesting. The first two picks of the draft would be the only two I don’t consider trading, unless it was some gobsmacking offer.

  145. Munny says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    He was unobtainium so it’s kinda moot.

  146. Munny says:

    Nice violin but not exactly anthemic.

  147. ArmchairGM says:

    Reja: Ok but you have to tell him face to face he’s inthe PB. Seriously can’t see that happening

    Yeah? Watch me!

  148. OriginalPouzar says:

    Big chance for Kassian early – great pass by Drai.

  149. Munny says:

    Quinn is forgetting the Oil are the ultimate slumpbusters.

    Perfect time for the Knights to face the Chuk.

  150. OriginalPouzar says:

    Solid early stop by Mikko on Max P.

  151. OriginalPouzar says:

    Safin with an assist today as Halifax avoids a massive 1st round upset and force game 7.

  152. godot10 says:

    JimmyV1965: Interesting. The first two picks of the draft would be the only two I don’t consider trading, unless it was some gobsmacking offer.

    The first two picks in the draft are the only ones I would consider trading.

  153. OriginalPouzar says:

    Good chance to see future Oilers, Brandon Pirri – my #1 UFA target at forward.

  154. OriginalPouzar says:

    I just realized that, after they waived Malone prior to the weekend, they didn’t send him down.

    I don’t know why, he barely plays up here and, when he does, its minimal positive impact – on the other hand, he is a very impactful player at the AHL level and for the Condors. The Condors could use him and the Oilers have plenty of bodies. Condors are using Logan Day at forward when Kailer is out.

    It makes zero sense to me.

  155. OriginalPouzar says:

    No goals for Ovie tonight……

  156. Lowetide says:

    Corsi 5-on-5 events 10-1 Vegas currently, 3-0 HDSC for the home team.

  157. OriginalPouzar says:

    Solid flow to the game so far….. geez!

  158. Gerta Rauss says:

    Lowetide:
    Corsi 5-on-5 events 10-1 Vegas currently, 3-0 HDSC for the home team.

    ..other than that, things are going great.!…

  159. BONE207 says:

    Lowetide:
    Corsi 5-on-5 events 10-1 Vegas currently, 3-0 HDSC for the home team.

    Nothing high glove. We’re good

  160. Lowetide says:

    Lucic-Cave-Gagner are a good line. Unlikely, but good.

  161. Justthestatsman says:

    …and it looks like Colorado has forced overtime. That’s the final nail, I believe.

  162. Lowetide says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I just realized that, after they waived Malone prior to the weekend, they didn’t send him down.

    I don’t know why, he barely plays up here and, when he does, its minimal positive impact – on the other hand, he is a very impactful player at the AHL level and for the Condors.The Condors could use him and the Oilers have plenty of bodies.Condors are using Logan Day at forward when Kailer is out.

    It makes zero sense to me.

    Teams always keep extra guys, especially centers, due to injuries, etc. I expect he’ll be dropped off in Bakersfield by the end of the week. Khaira (I think) is the main injury worry now.

  163. Munny says:

    Only a matter of time…

  164. Gerta Rauss says:

    ..screened maybe..?….I’m grasping at straws…

  165. Oil2Oilers says:

    Lowetide:
    Lucic-Cave-Gagner are a good line. Unlikely, but good.

    Agreed

    They play the game at the same pace

    Gagner, the lines speed demon, even attempted the Hemsky/McDavid O-Zone flying circle

  166. Lowetide says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    ..screened maybe..?….I’m grasping at straws…

    Yeah, I think he was deep though. At this point I think he might need a month by the pool. Which he’ll get!

  167. Munny says:

    Maybe coach should’ve fired a couple high far side on Koski this morning..

  168. Ben says:

    I think Losskinen is just straight-up dead-dog tired.

    If he rotates with Mrazek next year, I think they might be ok.

  169. OriginalPouzar says:

    More of the same from Koskinen – and, if you don’t think its deflating, did you all see McDavid’s reaction after the goal?

  170. Munny says:

    Lowetide: Yeah, I think he was deep though.

    This is usually his issue, IMO..Maybe it’s an artifact from playing on the int’l surface where there’s a quarter section of ice hiding behind each shoulder, dunno.

  171. Gerta Rauss says:

    Well, only down by 1 after 1st period

    That’s something I guess

  172. BONE207 says:

    Lowetide: Yeah, I think he was deep though. At this point I think he might need a month by the pool. Which he’ll get!

    I’ll take a week. 1 month would kill me. Can’t drink that much anymore

  173. Munny says:

    OriginalPouzar: did you all see McDavid’s reaction after the goal?

    That’s pretty tenuous.

  174. Johnny skid says:

    koskinen detractors should have a lot to work with tonight the way the team is playing.

  175. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I just realized that, after they waived Malone prior to the weekend, they didn’t send him down.

    I don’t know why, he barely plays up here and, when he does, its minimal positive impact – on the other hand, he is a very impactful player at the AHL level and for the Condors.The Condors could use him and the Oilers have plenty of bodies.Condors are using Logan Day at forward when Kailer is out.

    It makes zero sense to me.

    The Oilers and zero sense. Goes together like OP and Disneyland.

  176. Munny says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Good thing this is match play and not stroke.

  177. Maoriduvpoojt says:

    What clusterfuck of a PP!!

    And this team has 2 of the top 4 scorers in the league.

    Inexcusable, all these turnovers were self-inflicted

  178. hunter1909 says:

    leadfarmer: I think the Canucks will try very hard to get the Hughes brothers together, and they will be smart to do so

    Let’s hope the Oilers do everything to help the Canucks get whatever they want.

  179. Lowetide says:

    After One:

    1-0 Vegas
    9-8 shots for Edmonton
    17-11 Corsi 5-on-5 Vegas

    Strange period, both teams seemed to be in the clouds at times.

  180. Maoriduvpoojt says:

    Lowetide:
    Lucic-Cave-Gagner are a good line. Unlikely, but good.

    The slowest line in the NHL and probably even in the AHL, lol

  181. Reja says:

    BONE207: I’ll take a week. 1 month would kill me. Can’t drink that much anymore

    If you’ve seen the woman he’ll be spending a month at the pool with you would quickly have more energy.

  182. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide: Teams always keep extra guys, especially centers, due to injuries, etc. I expect he’ll be dropped off in Bakersfield by the end of the week. Khaira (I think) is the main injury worry now.

    Fair enough, however, even with Khaira still hurt (if its still his foot, they might as well shut him down), they have two healthy bodies scratched. They still have one call-up as well if needed.

    The Condors could use him to start with and, even more so with Yamamoto hurt – they are playing a d-man up at forward.

  183. Maoriduvpoojt says:

    OriginalPouzar: Nicholson states expressly that he is currently looking for a GM not a POHO (in response to the direct question from Gregor a few weeks ago) so we know that’s not happening….

    Which just reinforces my lack of trust in this organization to get it right. I am concerned that we are going to end up with recycled hockey men.

  184. digger50 says:

    Dam, we are out of the playoffs.

  185. Reja says:

    Johnny skid:
    koskinen detractors should have a lot to work with tonight the way the team is playing.

    It’s the new whipping boy’s fault the rest of the team is just playing out the string and can’t wait for the season to end.

  186. digger50 says:

    I want them to use the last call up.

    Sekera – Laggeson

    Or

    Benson – Connor – Leon

    Or

    Marody – Nuge – god there is not even another skill guy to put here

  187. Johnny skid says:

    Reja: It’s the new whipping boy’s fault the rest of the team is just playing out the string and can’t wait for the season to end.

    this team is so painful watch!

  188. Glovjuice says:

    April Fools. The Soilers miss the playoffs in 13 of the last 14 years.

    April Fools. The Oilers miss the playoffs in 13 of the last 14 years. (REJA version).

  189. Lowetide says:

    Marchessault scores.

  190. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bad, bad turnover by Drai there – no big save by the tender.

  191. digger50 says:

    Koski is gettin is that #6 draft pick position!

  192. BONE207 says:

    Reja: Ifyou’ve seen the woman he’ll be spending a month at the pool withyou wouldquickly have more energy.

    Women, fine. Liquor bad…well in large monthly quantities.

    Huh…low glove now. Time for flailing arm guy.

  193. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    digger50:
    Dam, we are out of the playoffs.

    Yeah like three months ago

  194. Lowetide says:

    McDavid scored.

  195. BONE207 says:

    digger50:
    Dam, we are out of the playoffs.

    That’s what we want. Now some Drai goals to get him to 50 & CONNOR with a bushellful with some 10-9 losses & a 3rd overall.

  196. BONE207 says:

    Lowetide:
    McDavid scored.

    CONNOR….sorry, channel surfing

  197. digger50 says:

    BONE207: That’s what we want. Now some Drai goals to get him to 50 & CONNOR with a bushellful with some 10-9 losses & a 3rd overall.

    Let’s go shitty team!!!

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