Waking Ned!

I had this jean jacket, maybe 1981, that was absolutely perfect. Faded from wear, fit like a glove and (most importantly) it had a pocket perfect for my smokes. I don’t remember a weekend night as a young man without that jean jacket. It just felt right.

Sometimes you walk in a room for the first time and feel like you’ve been there before. You’re at home despite the new surroundings. On that note, the Edmonton Oilers are attending a lottery today. Chances? 6.5 percent. Might as well be 96.5 percent. This is the organizational wheelhouse. They sell the whole seat, but the Oilers only need the edge. Next stop, Jack Hughes!

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. INSANE NEW OFFER IS HERE!

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: The pressure’s squarely on Bob Nicholson to make right GM hire for Oilers.
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers Report Cards: Few passing grades remain in season full of failure.
  • New Lowetide: How winning the draft lottery and drafting Jack Hughes could transform the Oilers.
  • Lowetide: The Oilers have a trio of Condors blue pushing and all three are tracking well. How does this group compare to the Petry, Chorney, Wild college men from a decade ago?
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers, the republic of Finland and the 2019 draft.
  • New Lowetide: Will the new GM continue the Oilers aggressive pursuit of college free agents?
  • New Jonathan Willis: Connor McDavid’s frustration should be seen by the Oilers as a warning of possible disaster.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers have another problem to solve: Lifting the cloud over a clearly frustrated Connor McDavid
  • Lowetide: What’s going on with Connor McDavid’s with or without you numbers?
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: The four blows that set up the knockout of the Oilers from playoff contention.
  • New Jonathan Willis: The Oilers’ failures of 2018-19 will cost people their careers.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Chipped teeth, playing DJ and lots of Game of Thrones: A week in the life of Darnell Nurse.
  • Lowetide: What Mark Hunter’s draft record in Toronto means for his Oilers GM candidacy.
  • Lowetide: The Oilers made a rare move and shopped the QMJHL at the 2018 draft. It could happen again.
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers draft early, the WHL is loaded and there’s a lot of history.
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the OHL.

100 BEST IN 2019

I’m thinking the Oilers should be fine if they remain inside the top 10, and they’re going to draft inside the top 10 again this season. I’ll do a mock draft tomorrow (no reason to do it today, we’ll know the draft positio tonight). I’ll do a top-10 tomorrow plus an Oilers mock.

Evan Bouchard is having a playoffs for the ages this spring. The Londonn Knights rearguard has 18 points (4-14-18) in seven games and leads the league. Many Oilers fans view Bouchard as a limited player but for me his skills (brilliant passing, calm feet with the puck) are a perfect fit for need on this team. I’d love to see him spend time with Andrej Sekera next season.

Dmitri Samorukov is also having a strong playoff, posting 3-5-8 in seven games for London’s opponent (Guelph Storm). Both men are likely to start next season in Bakersfield.

This is a key signing for the Oilers. Hawkey is a solid pro prospect and Edmonton is going to need a value goalie in the coming seasons. Vincent Desharnais is also in the tournament.

YESTERDAY’S PRESS CONFERENCE

Bob Nicholson and Keith Gretzky talked to the media yesterday, about 30 minutes of Q and A. We all parse these events differently, here are my takeaways:

  • Keith Gretzky has used his time as interim GM wisely, building rapport with Nicholson. If you review the words of the avail after Chiarelli’s firing, and then fast forward to KG being on the stage yesterday, there’s been progress. May not mean he gets the job, but there’s a window and KG has made the most of it.
  • Sounded like Nicholson had already reached out (Gillis?) to see if there was common ground between the team and some candidates. My guess is the conversation with Gillis was short and involved how sweeping front office changes could be under the new admin. That fact (nothing’s going to change) will make the pool of candidates smaller in a quick hurry.
  • He also mentioned that “some” candidates might not fit the team’s time line. That’s news, suggesting this process could get wrapped up before May long. It also may mean they have McCrimmon’s answer in the negative.
  • My guess? Unless Ken Holland shakes loose, the decision will come down to a Ron Hextall or Pat Verbeek. I do believe the Oilers will look at Keith Gretzky, it would not surprise me to see him get the job.

DRAFT TALK

I had a conversation with a friend on the weekend about Dmitri Samorukov. He could be the best Oilers pick outside the first round in exactly one forever, but we have miles to go.

When do you consider a draft pick successful? The numbers in draft +1 and draft +2 are important, but that first year pro is a monster, too. Can you consider Samorukov a draft ‘win’ already, or do you need to see him in pro before making the call?

The other question I’ve been mulling lately is how many draft misses should a scouting staff be allowed before being released? Since Keith Gretzky arrived, I would place his selections in the following piles:

  • Trending up: Dmitri Samorukov, Kirill Maksimov, Phil Kemp, Evan Bouchard, Michael Kesselring.
  • Status Quo: Stuart Skinner, Skyler Brind’Amour, Ryan McLeod, Olivier Rodrigue, Patrik Siikanen.
  • Trending down: Kailer Yamamoto, Ostap Safin.

That’s a good board, although the Yamamoto downbeat is a bummer. These young players are still in their early stages, as only Skinner and Yamamoto played the full season in pro hockey this year.

Is there an “allowable sins” number we can hang on a draft year? Or, put another way, does a strong draft season that features three NHL successes overcome all of the picks that never arrived? Let’s look at Stu MacGregor’s 2011 draft.

  • Hits: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Oscar Klefbom, Tobias Rieder
  • Fringe: David Musil, Dillon Simpson
  • Clear Misses: Samu Perhonen, Travis Ewanyk, Martin Gernat, Frans Tuohimaa.

Nuge was first overall and Oscar was also a first rounder. Is that a successful draft? I think it is. What about 2012?

  • Hits: Jujhar Khaira, Erik Gustafsson
  • Fringe:
  • Misses: Nail Yakupov, Mitch Moroz, Daniil Zharkov, Joey Laleggia, John McCarron.

I think this is an example of a draft that inspires changes, although the back story involves the owner, soon to be GM and a split (three ways!) in terms of No. 1. That’s a lottery win that hurt the Oilers.

NEXT HEAD COACH

I expect it’ll be Glen Gulutzan or Kris Knoblauch, so the current panic over Q and TMac is wasted energy imo. If the new GM has a brain in his head, he’ll know following up an old guy who brings the red ass every night with another old guy who does the same is suicide.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun show on the way this morning, we kickstart things at 10, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, The Athletic. What does Jon think of yesterday’s media avail? Who gets bought out?
  • Murat Ates, The Athletic Winnipeg. The Jets arrive at the playoffs looking a little shaky on liftoff.
  • Mike Snee, Executive Director of College Hockey Inc. We’ll chat Frozen Four and Hayden Hawkey.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Andy Dufresne says:

    Ken Holland on Prime Time Sports comes up with an interesting description of what he views as the perhaps the most important charachteristic of prospects. He calls it “The Motor”

    (paraphrasing a little….but pretty accurately)

    “The motor to go to the gym,

    The motor to deal with / overcome adversity

    Some players that go deeper in the draft may have a better motor (having to overcome adversity)

    Everyone can see the Hockey Sense, Can He Score, Stick Skills, The Size, The Analytics

    You can watch games, do personal research with coaches, family etc and you’ll get some insight into a players motor.

    But its not until you get that player into your environment that you begin to get a true measure of his “Motor”

    Occasionally, failry rarely you get the High Skill player who has the Motor

    2 players who are similar in size and stats lines…..one guy excels….the other guy fails out….the difference is more often than not the Motor”

    Might be true, but pretty old school / not very scientifc IMO

  2. Sierra says:

    Cassandra:
    The idea that Keith Gretzky is being considered is farcical.Not because of his brother, but because he was Chiarelli’s right hand man.You remember that guy?The worst general manager in NHL history. The one who destroyed this franchise with an unprecedented series of moves.Moves that we knew, in real time, were going to ruin the franchise.That guy.

    Keith Gretzky and Nicholson are the ones that should be fired.Yesterday.

    Nailed it.

  3. v4ance says:

    I don’t really care who we draft. It doesn’t matter.

    I just want to REVEL in the tears of frustration and spite of other fanbases as we win another draft lottery. It’s the only thing we’re good at so might as well lean into it.

  4. Andy Dufresne says:

    READY, SET, GO

  5. Reja says:

    v4ance:
    I don’t really care who we draft.It doesn’t matter.

    I just want to REVEL in the tears of frustration and spite of other fanbases as we win another draft lottery.It’s the only thing we’re good at so might as well lean into it.

    Cheer up Gary just gave Katz the secret handshake

  6. Andy Dufresne says:

    LT, Wine glass in hand, wine in glass?

    Gold Lame! Gold Lame! Gold Lame!

  7. Andy Dufresne says:

    This could save the season for season ticket sales.

  8. Andy Dufresne says:

    Is one of the guys on the stage the Oilers next GM?

  9. Gerta Rauss says:

    Sakic looked like he had something to hide….I think COL is one of the lottery winners…LoL

  10. Ben says:

    Jesus, just call the show, “Ravaged by Time”

  11. Andy Dufresne says:

    Hughes just said hes dreaming of seeing himself in an Oilers uniform!!! or something like that

  12. Andy Dufresne says:

    HERE WE GO!

  13. Caller Zen says:

    Ben:
    Jesus, just call the show, “Ravaged by Time”

    Walking Dead, Season 11?

  14. Andy Dufresne says:

    15 Montreal

  15. Andy Dufresne says:

    14 ARIZONA

  16. Andy Dufresne says:

    13 FLORIDA

  17. Andy Dufresne says:

    12 Miinestoa

    Chicago a winner

  18. Andy Dufresne says:

    11 PHILLY

  19. Professor Q says:

    Chicago with another 1st OV or at least Top 3, eh?

  20. Andy Dufresne says:

    10 Vancounver

  21. Andy Dufresne says:

    SHIT 8th

  22. Andy Dufresne says:

    NYR a winner

  23. Ben says:

    Robbed.

  24. Andy Dufresne says:

    LA looses

  25. JOFA says:

    Well OP? Nice win eh?

  26. Andy Dufresne says:

    Colorado LOSES

  27. Gerta Rauss says:

    JOFA:
    Prediction: Rangers move up. Happy we won that meaningful game against Calgary.It builds ‘character’ and should carry over into next season

    fuck me

  28. godot10 says:

    Taylor Hall knows lottery balls.

  29. godot10 says:

    Costly win over the Flames for the Oilers.

  30. Andy Dufresne says:

    NJ NYR CHICAGO in what order?

  31. Caller Zen says:

    WOW

  32. Professor Q says:

    So, Taylor Hall is one lucky lad. I wonder if the hockey world will complain about New Jersey or Chicago as much as they have Edmonton?

  33. Andy Dufresne says:

    Chicago the only team that leap frogged us

  34. Munny says:

    lol… This lottery has Bettman’s fingerprints all over it.

  35. JOFA says:

    What did I fucking predict. Huge character win against the Flames 😉

  36. Scungilli Slushy says:

    pts2pndr: RNH does all the little things right. He is very under appreciated. He is the ultimate 200 ft player and has been trusted by all coaches in all situations. If he is traded there will be a realization by many of the many things he brings to the table. Plays hard every shift and has very few bad games. He does not have the skills of Connor or the strength of Draisaitl but pound for pound he is aurguably worth as much on a dollarfor dollar basis andis an integral part moving forward.

    Teams that don’t appreciate players like Nuge lose, or for the Oilers lose more.

    They are the shoulders the elite stand on.

  37. Gerta Rauss says:

    godot10:
    Costly win over the Flames for the Oilers.

    Oilers fans will be talking about this lottery for generations

  38. Andy Dufresne says:

    Wow even a 3rd NJ could pick up Bowen Byram

  39. Andy Dufresne says:

    Oddspell:
    Shero + Hall might be an even more potent lottery pairing than Tambellini + Hall.

    Hall is the common denominator

  40. Ben says:

    Oddly happy for the Sens, here.

  41. Gerta Rauss says:

    OTT saves a little face by taking 4OV last year and giving up 4OV this year

  42. Andy Dufresne says:

    Gerta Rauss: Oilers fans will be talking about this lottery for generations

    Our inabilty to commit to the tank.

  43. Andy Dufresne says:

    Ben:
    Oddly happy for the Sens, here.

    Agreed

  44. Reja says:

    godot10:
    Costly win over the Flames for the Oilers.

    No response when Connor got taken out they could have taken 10 Fricking penalties and lost a nothing game.

  45. Andy Dufresne says:

    2 biggest losers in our conference

  46. Oddspell says:

    Whoops, deleted both comments by accident instead of just the one where I thought Shero won the 2005 lottery.

    I don’t know what it is, but “Jack Hughes” just sounds like a New York Rangers name. We’ll see the top 3 order.

  47. Professor Q says:

    I think 8th could provide a highly dynamic player for Edmonton.

    10th provided Evan Bouchard.

    The sky has not fallen, and as Lowetide says, we wait.

  48. godot10 says:

    Taylor Hall does it again!

  49. leadfarmer says:

    Well Byram probably goes 3rd

  50. Gerta Rauss says:

    wow…..NJ again….

  51. Todd Macallan says:

    Hahahaha Taylor Hall for the win

  52. Munny says:

    Taylor Hall has powers beyond the normal hockey player.

  53. v4ance says:

    Lol… they were testing the draft display board and someone took a screen shot of the Top 3 15 minutes early

    https://twitter.com/cloutkaniemi/status/1115770908726235136

  54. leadfarmer says:

    Halls magical Lotto Balls

  55. who says:

    Okay we got to get Hall back. That is all.

  56. Andy Dufresne says:

    Taylor Hall is the magic charm

  57. Nit64 says:

    Andy Dufresne: Our inabilty to commit the tank.

    Our inability to keep Hall

  58. Cahoon says:

    Is NJ top then?

  59. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Trade down.
    I was really hoping for Kakko or Byram

  60. Ben says:

    There’ll be a really good player there at 8th. McKenzie has Zegras in that spot, and I’d be thrilled with that pick.

  61. Todd Macallan says:

    We are in a fine spot, I see a clear top 8, 3 to 8 are pretty interchangeable. We will get an excellent prospect.

  62. Andy Dufresne says:

    NJ Hughes
    NYR Kakko
    Chicago ? probably Byram no?

  63. Professor Q says:

    v4ance:
    Lol… they were testing the draft display board and someone took a screen shot of the Top 3 15 minutes early

    https://twitter.com/cloutkaniemi/status/1115770908726235136

    What does it mean, Jim?!

  64. Andy Dufresne says:

    SEE Hughes skates with Hall in the summer

    #thefixwasin

    #taylorsrevenge

  65. Scungilli Slushy says:

    I hate out of playoffs character wins. Be good at something, nobody will remember the last 20 games next season m

    They will remember an elite addition to the team

  66. Gerta Rauss says:

    Ben:
    There’ll be a really good player there at 8th. McKenzie has Zegras in that spot, and I’d be thrilled with that pick.

    Yeah, I’m not too upset, there will be a good player (probably a forward) coming our way

  67. Munny says:

    I wish they wouldn’t talk to these prospects like they’ve already been picked first overall.

  68. JOFA says:

    OP are u awake?

  69. texmex says:

    We can’t complain after drafting Draisaitl 3rd (best player in the draft) in 2014 and McJesus in 2015.

  70. leadfarmer says:

    Man did the Sens dodge a bullet.

  71. ArmchairGM says:

    Professor Q:
    I think 8th could provide a highly dynamic player for Edmonton.

    10th provided Evan Bouchard.

    The sky has not fallen, and as Lowetide says, we wait.

    Turcotte is my target at #8. I don’t think Cozens or Dach will be available then – not convinced either of them has a higher ceiling, although they’re probably closer to nhl ready.

  72. Andy Dufresne says:

    Our lottery was like our team

    Could have been a little worse.

    Could have been a lot better.

  73. ArmchairGM says:

    Todd Macallan:
    We are in a fine spot, I see a clear top 8, 3 to 8 are pretty interchangeable. We will get an excellent prospect.

    Agreed.

  74. leadfarmer says:

    Le sigh
    Well there’s always next year

  75. Professor Q says:

    ArmchairGM: Turcotte is my target at #8. I don’t think Cozens or Dach will be available then – not convinced either of them has a higher ceiling,although they’re probably closer to nhl ready.

    The US National Team will be darned good!

  76. Cahoon says:

    Man I miss Taylor Hall as an Oiler right now.

  77. McSorley33 says:

    Boqvist on one pair.

    Byram on the 2nd pair?

    Chicago possibly with a real fast D core in the making?

  78. Fiveinatrailer says:

    Ahahaha. Serves them right. Gd it I hate the 2018/2019 season. Good riddance.

    Awesome character win over the flames boys- I know it will carry forward into next year. The oil are on a 1 game winning streak!

    What a spectacularly horrible year. I hope Connor is seething with built up rage.

  79. McSorley33 says:

    ArmchairGM,

    Agreed on Turcotte.

    That is my horse in this race….

  80. Andy Dufresne says:

    Are the Bowmans lucky or what?

    Chicago and NJD

  81. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Fiveinatrailer:
    Ahahaha. Serves them right. Gd it I hate the 2018/2019 season. Good riddance.

    Awesome character win over the flames boys- I know it will carry forward into next year. The oil are on a 1 game winning streak!

    What a spectacularly horrible year. I hope Connor is seething with built up rage.

    I hope Orr texts Katz and says Connor doesn’t want to be on a shit team anymore.

    No more mulligans.

  82. v4ance says:

    Professor Q,

    https://twitter.com/trekronorhockey/status/1115772127213494272

    Video of the accidental reveal

    NHL, Ernst and Young and the NBCSN studio might all be at fault for the accidental reveal. Someone needed to provide security and make sure the test runs were done long before the live show.

    EDIT: Viasat is an ad free stream so it showed everything live in the studio even if ads were running on NBC or Sportsnet feeds

  83. Andy Dufresne says:

    Who wants to bet the Russian drops to 8th…….would be lucky on the one hand…..scary on the other?

  84. Kraz says:

    Blue Bullet Brad
    @BlueBullet1981
    There is a bigger gap in value between 8th and 9th than between 4th and 8th with my draft model.

    This is good news. 8 is a good spot. I was worried Vancouver was going to win.

  85. Professor Q says:

    Scungilli Slushy: I hope Orr texts Katz and says Connor doesn’t want to be on a shit team anymore.

    No more mulligans.

    …for not winning the Draft Lottery? Really?

    Give your heads a shake.

  86. Todd Macallan says:

    Cosentino says Dach to the Oilers at 8. That would please me greatly.

  87. Reja says:

    Munny:
    I wish they wouldn’t talk to these prospects like they’ve already been picked first overall.

    Having a 17 year- old kid getting pumped with questions by a woman that might as well be a stripper is hilarious.

  88. Ben says:

    Happy that the two most dangerous-looking players will be in the east, too.

    Now that we know the number…do you do something like #8 and #70 straight up for Ehlers?

  89. Todd Macallan says:

    Lost in this is the Kings dropping down 3 spots hahaha

  90. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lots of great talents, potential elite players, will be available.

    Make the draft pick, develop the player, have him play a material role in this team competing for the Stanley Cup year after year starting in a couple of years.

    That is how teams build championship teams.

    This is a seventh overall pick – its highly likely to be a very good player that will help this team for a decade.

  91. Fiveinatrailer says:

    I guess I’ll be the guy to say, hey- 2007 really panned out- we got Gagner instead of Kane!
    Like who wants THAT guy…

  92. Caller Zen says:

    v4ance:
    Professor Q,

    https://twitter.com/trekronorhockey/status/1115772127213494272

    Video of the accidental reveal

    NHL, Ernst and Young and the NBCSN studio might all be at fault for the accidental reveal.Someone needed to provide security and make sure the test runs were done long before the live show.

    I hope this gets talked about by the MSM and not just on twitter – maybe even picked up internationally.

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yup, the win against the flames cost the team a top 3 spot.

    At the same time, without accumulating some garbage time points in 2015, we wouldn’t have McDavid so, well, I think its just fine to win games down the stretch.

  94. Andy Dufresne says:

    Youve got Hughes and Kakko,
    then Byram in the top 6

    Cozens, Turcotte, Zegra, and Dach are all centers

    May leave us with a RW Podkolzin or a LW Boldy.

    Anyone happy with Podkolzin or Boldy?

  95. Biggus Dickus says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Yup, the win against the flames cost the team a top 3 spot.

    At the same time, without accumulating some garbage time points in 2015, we wouldn’t have McDavid so, well, I think its just fine to win games down the stretch.

    And any career ending knee injuries are certainly justifiable in nothing games as well.

  96. JOFA says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Yup, the win against the flames cost the team a top 3 spot.

    At the same time, without accumulating some garbage time points in 2015, we wouldn’t have McDavid so, well, I think its just fine to win games down the stretch.

    Nice spin…don’t forget Petry 😄 and it’s 8th not 7th

  97. OriginalPouzar says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan: Have you seen him play this year? He doesn’t stand out in any good way. Also, getting hurt is going to be his calling card. AHL types seem to go out of their way to kick the crap out of smurfs.

    I have seen him play many times in the AHL this year and I don’t agree with that assessment.

    Once he started gaining traction, he was starting to drive offence, shift after shift and game after game when he was playing with the likes of Esposito and Vesel – it took him a while to settle in, as it seems to every time he’s moved from team to team. Once he moved to the top line with the Currie promotion, he was another player on a dominant line. The 2 year older Marody is the driver and puck transporter on that line but Yamamoto was scoring just fine. He is a rookie pro.

  98. Caller Zen says:

    Rangers get Tampa’s 1st round pick if the Lightning win the Cup ….holy smokes, talk about a quick rebuild.

  99. OriginalPouzar says:

    Munny:
    lol… This lottery has Bettman’s fingerprints all over it.

    Are we not 100% convinced when the Oilers won the McDavid lottery, that the multi-billion dollar enterprise isn’t colluding to place its new assets in certain organizations?

  100. Reja says:

    Scungilli Slushy: I hope Orr texts Katz and says Connor doesn’t want to be on a shit team anymore.

    No more mulligans.

    When did agents start running a team you sign a contract that could feed a small country for years you fullfill it. People sure are underestimating Connor’s character he and Leon want to win a Cup in Oilers silks.

  101. Professor Q says:

    The win against the Flames didn’t “lose the lottery for Edmonton”.

    Other teams also won or had OT losses in Game 82, and some lost. Changed the orders. The lottery occurred, and based on Chaos Theory we can’t really predict that X spot would still have Y result if Z occurred or not.

    It’s a bad hindsight manoeuvre that is being used currently to troll Edmonton and its fans (with some fans of other teams actually standing up for us and pointing out the poor logic and meaninglessness of the statement) that is not true at all.

    The Oilers will be perfectly fine at 8 OV. It’s going to be exciting, for a variety of reasons.

  102. jtblack says:

    Caller Zen:
    Rangers get Tampa’s 1st round pick if the Lightning win the Cup ….holy smokes, talk about a quick rebuild.

    here is the myth of the Narrative. there are very few QUICK REBUILD’S.
    I am sure you can mention 1 or 2. but in general it takes 5 -6 yrs min.

    in Edm …. 13 + ☺

  103. Andy Dufresne says:

    Have the Oilers ever picked at 8 OV ?

  104. OriginalPouzar says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    I hate out of playoffs character wins. Be good at something, nobody will remember the last 20 games next season m

    They will remember an elite addition to the team

    In 2015 we can remember the wins in the equivalent games that led to also winning McDavid – lose those games like many hoped that year (just like this year) and no McDavid.

    I think garbage time wins have us ahead right now.

  105. Ben says:

    Professor Q: based on Chaos Theory we can’t really predict that X spot would still have Y result if Z occurred or not.

    Ahem. I happen to watch a LOT of Star Trek and can tell you for a fact that this is incorrect.

    Also, I’ve seen the Shane-Doan-drafted-by-the-Oilers timeline and it is a TOTAL shit show.

  106. JOFA says:

    Professor Q,

    They would have been perfectly fine picking 2nd too.😉

  107. OriginalPouzar says:

    JOFA: Nice spin…don’t forget Petry and it’s 8th not 7th

    No spin – I posted the same dialogue before the lottery and down the stretch.

    This year, yup, that win against the flames cost the team a top 3 pick. In 2015, a couple of wins down the stretch got the team McDavid.

    I think the garbage time wins have the team ahead in aggregate.

  108. Andy Dufresne says:

    Youve got Hughes and Kakko,
    then Byram in the top 6

    Cozens, Turcotte, Zegra, and Dach are all listed as centers (on Sportsnets board)

    May leave us with a RW Podkolzin or a LW Boldy.

    Anyone happy with Podkolzin or Boldy?

    Anyone?….Anyone?…….Bueller?

  109. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    So someone has mentioned that Taylor Hall has now been on the team who got the 1st overall pick 6 out of the last 10 years…

    Wow…

    Edit: counting the year he himself was picked 1st overall.

    5 out of last 9 years is also…
    wow…

  110. texmex says:

    Taylor hall twitter

    They talk about Gretzky’s 92 goals or Sittler’s 10 pts in one game as records that may never be broken. But winning 5 draft lotteries in your first 9 years in the league? In 2 different draft lottery eras, no less. That is a record that will stand forever.

  111. Nit64 says:

    Crazy Pedestrian:
    So someone has mentioned that Taylor Hall has now been on the team who got the 1st overall pick 6 out of the last 10 years…

    Wow…

    Karma. Thanks Pete.

  112. Andy Dufresne says:

    Crazy Pedestrian:
    So someone has mentioned that Taylor Hall has now been on the team who got the 1st overall pick 6 out of the last 10 years…

    Wow…

    Is it Lucky?

    Good Luck? or Bad Luck?

  113. jtblack says:

    Last # 8.

    GRANT FUHR

  114. Bulging Twine says:

    Dach with a strong net front goal

  115. Ben says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    Assuming the D is gone, I have zero allegiance to forward position, other than to say that if I’m ranking two players equally I take the centre for versatility’s sake.

    Whether 29 stays on 97’s wing or not, always wise to build strength up the middle.

  116. Professor Q says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Youve got Hughes and Kakko,
    then Byram in the top 6

    Cozens, Turcotte, Zegras, and Dach are all centers

    May leave us with a RW Podkolzin or a LW Boldy.

    Anyone happy with Podkolzin or Boldy?

    Anyone?….Anyone?…….Bueller?

    A few of those players are wingers, and the others could play wing also.

    We could also wind up with Krebs, Caufield, or even Byram (he could fall!). Lots of time left now to see how they all end up doing with the rest of the season, and during testing and interviews.

  117. Andy Dufresne says:

    In all honesty…..I think the formula for the Draft Lottery is really pretty darn good.

    It really does make tanking less attractive and it seems to work out fairer that teams in the 10-15 range can occasionally move up…..way up .(and I’ll call Rusty)

  118. OriginalPouzar says:

    7 degrees and raining in Tokyo – off to the 4 floor Mega Starbucks and just content with adding another sublime talent to the org in June:
    https://www.starbucks.co.jp/roastery/

  119. Andy Dufresne says:

    Professor Q: A few of those players are wingers, and the others could play wing also.

    We could also wind up with Krebs, Caufield, or even Byram (he could fall!). Lots of time left now to see how they all end up doing with the rest of the season, and during testing and interviews.

    So you dont like Podkolzin……he’s ranked in the top 5 on most lists. But he doesnt seem to get a lot of love around here.

    Why is that?…..hmmm…..What could it be?

  120. Rebillled says:

    Lowetide knew we were picking 8.

    Look at the highest number in the photo.

  121. Gerta Rauss says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    In all honesty…..I think the formula for the Draft Lottery is really pretty darn good.

    It really does make tanking less attractive and it seems to work out fairer that teams in the 10-15 range can occasionally move up…..way up.(and I’ll call Rusty)

    Brian Burke vehemently disagrees with you but eff him…

    I agree, the lottery is fine, and it’s as fair as it’s going to get, and I would suggest, probably a ratings winner for TV

    I wouldn’t mind them drawing ALL 15 non playoff teams with lottery balls to determine the draft order(not just the top 3)…but I’m OK with the current format

  122. Professor Q says:

    Andy Dufresne: So you dont like Podkolzin……he’s ranked in the top 5 of most lists.

    I have no opinion as I know nothing about him! Neither dislike or like at this time.

  123. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: Yup, the win against the flames cost the team a top 3 spot.

    I don’t think that’s how the lottery works. I admittedly haven’t studied it, but I’m pretty sure each team is given a set of numbers and then a draw occurs. It’s not a given that the Oilers would have gotten the NYR number if they had lost that game – in fact, the odds if that are very low.

  124. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Professor Q: …for not winning the Draft Lottery? Really?

    Give your heads a shake.

    No

    Because of the obvious backpedaling after the post Connor comments panic from various

    The lottery might have bailed the org out but it didn’t

  125. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Reja: When did agents start running a team you sign a contract that could feed a small country for years you fullfill it. People sure are underestimating Connor’s character he and Leon want to win a Cup in Oilers silks.

    Grrrrrrr

  126. Professor Q says:

    I just checked Podkolzin.

    Pretty good size, RW, good shot LHS.

    If he comes over to Medicine Hat and plays well, it could start a good development path, instead of going straight to the AHL.

    However…there are so many good RHS C/W here, Canadian or American, that one might think they’d be much better fits.

    We’ll have to see! With my luck the Oilers won’t even get to draft him, and he turns into the next Kucherov/Tarasenko.

  127. Andy Dufresne says:

    I think we will end up picking an American.

    Turcotte or Zegras.

  128. godot10 says:

    Andy Dufresne: So you dont like Podkolzin……he’s ranked in the top 5 on most lists. But he doesnt seem to get a lot of love around here.

    Why is that?…..hmmm…..What could it be?

    I like Podkolzin a lot. It doesn’t have anything to do with Podkolzin. I don’t trust or believe the Oilers can or would develop him.

    The Oilers have alienated any Russian that has ever come here, except an old NHL vet in Ulanov.

  129. Scungilli Slushy says:

    OriginalPouzar: In 2015 we can remember the wins in the equivalent games that led to also winning McDavid – lose those games like many hoped that year (just like this year) and no McDavid.

    I think garbage time wins have us ahead right now.

    Truth

    But we have McDavid. And Drai.

    In life timing, luck and taking opportunity are everything

  130. Andy Dufresne says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Truth

    But we have McDavid. And Drai.

    In life timing, luck and taking opportunity are everything

    Some teams win the Lotto 6/49

    We won the Power Ball

  131. Andy Dufresne says:

    godot10: I like Podkolzin a lot.It doesn’t have anything to do with Podkolzin.I don’t trust or believe the Oilers can or would develop him.

    The Oilers have alienated any Russian that has ever come here, except an old NHL vet in Ulanov.

    Same would aply to Kakko to.

    So lets hope they are both gone in the top 7.

    Which is a very high probablity.

    But just for shits and giggles, if Podkolzin is still there at 8 and you had to choose between him Krebs and Zegras…..who do you pick?

  132. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Andy Dufresne: Same would aply to Kakko to.

    So lets hope they are both gone in the top 7

    Finns have a great history in Edmonton but it’s this whacked org that can’t help anyone that can’t help themselves.

    Russians have never worked on the whole. One step too far East for the Boys.

  133. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    OriginalPouzar: I have seen him play many times in the AHL this year and I don’t agree with that assessment.

    Once he started gaining traction, he was starting to drive offence, shift after shift and game after game when he was playing with the likes of Esposito and Vesel – it took him a while to settle in, as it seems to every time he’s moved from team to team. Once he moved to the top line with the Currie promotion, he was another player on a dominant line.The 2 year older Marody is the driver and puck transporter on that line but Yamamoto was scoring just fine. He is a rookie pro.

    Not trying to be rude, but there is a big difference between watching a game on TV and seeing him play in person. Yes, he has some skill. Yes, he is a willing and effective forechecker. Of the five games I saw him play, nothing jumps out and says first round pick, even late first round pick. He gets destroyed anywhere near the boards so any opportunity for a cycle dies with him. There were multiple times during these games where opponents left their assignments so they could take a shot at him open ice. It almost looked like he had a bounty on him. Wish him the best but the size/speed thing is going to be huge for him to overcome. The pick was a gamble, and often gambles do not pay out. We wait.

  134. flyfish1168 says:

    Taylor Hall is the lucky charm for 1st overall picks. This may make it less likely he leaves NJD

  135. ashley says:

    There is still a lot of analysis and luck that goes into this. Who knows, maybe shuffling to 8th gets us more Tkachuk and less Puljujarvi.

  136. Reja says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Grrrrrrr

    Instead of standing up for Connor their captain who might never be the same after Gio The Great desperation try on the puck but will take out your skates because Connor’s burned me bad and if does it again no Norris for me. Gio won the Norris right there and then folks fuk Gio.

  137. Andy Dufresne says:

    anyone posted the first mock draft yet ?

  138. godot10 says:

    Andy Dufresne: Same would aply to Kakko to.

    So lets hope they are both gone in the top 7.

    Which is a very high probablity.

    But just for shits and giggles, if Podkolzin is still there at 8 and you had to choose between him Krebs and Zegras…..who do you pick?

    I want to see some of the World under 18’s.

    Gerald

  139. Alpine says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan,

    I guess it depends how much you weigh the negative vs the positive. I’m not sure the negative of being hit a lot constitutes enough of downside for me to say Yamamoto is trending down. I wouldn’t say he’s trending up either, he’s just going in more of straight line.

    It seems he’s being held to a high standard by a fan base that’s desperate for another forward to emerge. Late first rounders are supposed to have some flaws.

  140. OriginalPouzar says:

    ArmchairGM: I don’t think that’s how the lottery works. I admittedly haven’t studied it, but I’m pretty sure each team is given a set of numbers and then a draw occurs. It’s not a given that the Oilers would have gotten the NYR number if they had lost that game – in fact, the odds if that are very low.

    Nope – 4 balls are chosen that create a 4 digit code.

    Prior to the draft all potential codes are assigned to the teams – Colorado with the most codes.

  141. OriginalPouzar says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan: Not trying to be rude, but there is a big difference between watching a game on TV and seeing him play in person. Yes, he has some skill. Yes, he is a willing and effective forechecker. Of the five games I saw him play, nothing jumps out and says first round pick, even late first round pick. He gets destroyed anywhere near the boards so any opportunity for a cycle dies with him. There were multiple times during these games where opponents left their assignments so they could take a shot at him open ice. It almost looked like he had a bounty on him. Wish him the best but the size/speed thing is going to be huge for him to overcome. The pick was a gamble, and often gambles do not pay out. We wait.

    No offence taken but I’m quite confident in my ability to asses players from watching on TV.

  142. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja: Instead of standing up for Connor their captain who might never be the same after Gio The Great desperationtry on the puck but will take out your skates because Connor’s burned me bad and if does it again no Norris for me. Gio won the Norris right there and then folks fuk Gio.

    That is some elite level catastrophizing.

  143. Gerta Rauss says:

    Jersey won the lottery in 2011 as well, but the rules allowed them to only move up 4 spots(from 8 to 4-Adam Larsson)

    So that’s 3 lottery wins in 9 years

  144. Pescador says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    anyone posted the first mock draft yet ?

    texmex:
    Andy Dufresne

    https://www.tsn.ca/craig-button-s-tsn-hockey-mock-draft-post-lottery-edition-1.1287914

    Anyone I respect?

    Just kidding Lt.

  145. Pescador says:

    flyfish1168:
    Taylor Hall is the lucky charm for 1st overall picks. This may make it less likely he leaves NJD

    NJ being a team in the hunt for the playoffs is probably the only thing he cares about.
    I’m guessing he’s heard enough “future looks promising”
    Where have I heard that before?

  146. texmex says:

    leadfarmer,

    Maybe with boqvist already in their system they want forwards?!? IDK

  147. YKOil says:

    Colorado still does really well but Ottawa management must be feeling a little relieved given that result.

    No difference in pick # and they’ll keep their guy thank-you very much.

  148. leadfarmer says:

    That USNDP is too stacked this year
    Hard to know other than Hughes who is leaching and who is pushing
    Even Cole Caufield (Go Stevens Point!!!) scores a goal per game and he makes Debrincat look big

  149. YKOil says:

    Nice part for me, re: #8 is that I’m not tied to it. Management should be out fishing. Would prefer to trade back.

  150. Jaxon says:

    My preference for a sniper would have my list looking something like:

    Not happening:
    Kakko – long gone by 8th

    This would be amazing:
    Cozens – likely gone, but stranger things have happened and he has fallen in the past month
    Kaliyev – his goal scoring is impressive

    These would be intriguing picks:
    Lavoie – underrated in the Q
    Pelletier – underrated in the Q and smaller
    Caufield – will they take a chance on the diminutive kid?

    BCHL… hmmmm. Don’t think it’s a great plan but could be convinced otherwise:
    Newhook

  151. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar: That is some elite level catastrophizing.

    There should have been a response from Nurse or our scrub forward group and especially Kass his linemate whose been buttering his toast for the last two months nothing even the announcers who are anti fighting we’re surprised. No wonder management chased coke machines and Lucic clones for years.

  152. Gerta Rauss says:

    YKOil:
    Nice part for me, re: #8 is that I’m not tied to it.Management should be out fishing.Would prefer to trade back.

    Interesting-I might consider trading back if the value is there

    I’m reluctant to trade this years pick-I think the org needs to continue to add to the prospect pool for now.It’s much better than it was, but 1 more crop of kids is needed before I’d consider trading a 1st or 2nd round pick(ie:trading the pick outright)

    I would make the 2020 1st rounder available-that’s the currency I go to market with this summer

  153. JimmyV1965 says:

    Ben:
    Happy that the two most dangerous-looking players will be in the east, too.

    Now that we know the number…do you do something like #8 and #70 straight up for Ehlers?

    Every day of the week.

  154. Oddspell says:

    Ben:
    Happy that the two most dangerous-looking players will be in the east, too.

    Now that we know the number…do you do something like #8 and #70 straight up for Ehlers?

    If Kretzky’s strategy is a move like that, I’m behind him as perma-GM.

    If I’m in the driver’s seat, I’m trying to squeeze as much value out of the #8 as possible, whether that’s trading down and turning it into multiple 1sts, turning into an Ehlers type, using it (as part of a trade down) to get rid of a bad contract, or combinations.

    If Ottawa picks at 19, how does 8 + Lucic for 19 + 32 look?

  155. OriginalPouzar says:

    One might note that, while we know Bouchard is tearing up the CHL, Samorukov is 4th in scoring among OHL dmen whole trying to defend that London team.

  156. Glovjuice says:

    Stay Hungry with Desire – Twisted Sister

  157. Munny says:

    OriginalPouzar: Are we not 100% convinced when the Oilers won the McDavid lottery, that the multi-billion dollar enterprise isn’t colluding to place its new assets in certain organizations?

    Well, I am one hundred percent convinced that jokes can WHOOSH! right over people’s heads. Even when introduced with an “lol”. 😉

  158. who says:

    Oddspell: If Kretzky’s strategy is a move like that, I’m behind him as perma-GM.

    If I’m in the driver’s seat, I’m trying to squeeze as much value out of the #8 as possible, whether that’s trading down and turning it into multiple 1sts, turning into an Ehlers type, using it (as part of a trade down) to get rid of a bad contract, or combinations.

    If Ottawa picks at 19, how does 8 + Lucic for 19 + 32 look?

    I’m not sure they do 8OV plus Lucic for 19OV. No way they include 32OV

  159. YKOil says:

    Oddspell: If Kretzky’s strategy is a move like that, I’m behind him as perma-GM.

    If I’m in the driver’s seat, I’m trying to squeeze as much value out of the #8 as possible, whether that’s trading down and turning it into multiple 1sts, turning into an Ehlers type, using it (as part of a trade down) to get rid of a bad contract, or combinations.

    If Ottawa picks at 19, how does 8 + Lucic for 19 + 32 look?

    Ottawa would be a trade down target for me as well. No way we get the #32 thrown in.

    Have thought about a Sekera for Condon exchange.

    Sekera, 8th
    FOR
    Condon, 19th

    Is a starting point. We gain $3.1 million Cap year 1 and $5.5 million Cap year 2.

  160. Suntory Hanzo says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Kyoto is amazing. Enjoy your stay. We got some inside info when we went as my buddy’s Father in Law was the tourism head there. Tons to see. Thanksfully not bombed due to being a heritage site or something like that. Can’t comfirm if that was true or not.

    Try to hit Nara and Himeji-Jo if you can.

  161. Suntory Hanzo says:

    who,

    Chia would do that. Hopefully the peeps don’t flush picks like the old admin did.

  162. YKOil says:

    Lucic trade all comes down to Lucic. He needs to be encouraged (again) to find a trade and he needs to waive that NTC.

    Very wrong of me to think this way (probably) but I probably sit him every game. Would rather pay him and not trade him than buy him out if a trade is out there and he uses NTC to say no.

  163. who says:

    YKOil: Ottawa would be a trade down target for me as well.No way we get the #32 thrown in.

    Have thought about a Sekera for Condon exchange.

    Sekera, 8th
    FOR
    Condon, 19th

    Is a starting point.We gain $3.1 million Cap year 1 and $5.5 million Cap year 2.

    I wouldn’t be in a big rush to trade Sekera, if we have to add a sweetener .

  164. Alpine says:

    YKOil,

    There’s no burden at all on Ottawa to take Sekera for only two more years. Minimal risk and if he’s healthy he’s a useful veteran that helps them reach the floor.

    We’re not right against the cap like Vegas is. I don’t think we need to make desperate moves and lose so much value here just to get some cap space.

  165. YKOil says:

    Alpine,

    Interesting. Now we have loads of cap room and shouldn’t make desperate moves.

    The tide is in tonight.

    Edit to add: are we back to sit tight and ride it out (worked great last year)?

  166. Reja says:

    YKOil:
    Lucic trade all comes down to Lucic.He needs to be encouraged (again) to find a trade and he needs to waive that NTC.

    Very wrong of me to think this way (probably) but I probably sit him every game.Would rather pay him and not trade him than buy him out if a trade is out there and he uses NTC to say no.

    They won’t PB him to toxic NHL teams don’t operate that way from what I can remember they find other solutions.

  167. YKOil says:

    Reja: They won’t PB him to toxic NHL teams don’t operate that way from whatI can remember they find other solutions.

    Other than PB, only solutions are to play, trade, or buy him out. Playing him is also toxic, to winning anyways.

    Robidas island maybe, but he has to buy into that.

  168. OmJo says:

    stephen sheps:
    Weekly Yak final report:

    My son’s season came to an end earlier today, with CSKA beating SKA 3-1 in game 7 of the 3rd round. Onetime prospect Anton Slepyshev scored the game winner for CSKA.

    Nail’s playoff stat-line was 18GP, 4-4-8

    Season total (including playoffs) 65GP, 27-14-41

    My son had a strong season. Will it be enough to bring him back to North America? Hard to say. I think he probably needs to play one more year in the KHL to build on this season and prove he’s truly regained his scoring touch before he returns, but this is something to build on. I couldn’t be happier for him, despite falling short of a championship. He had an excellent year and I hope he continues to gain confidence and rediscover his game. 27 goals from the 3rd line and PP2 is very good in any league.

    Go Yak!

    Edit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHjaAu1GTZU

    End transmission

    Atta boy Yak!!

    I too think he might opt for another season in the KHL. Let himself grow a bit, too. I think he’s happy being close to home and family.

    He can a Radulov-esque return one day. Not gonna lie that every part of me hopes it is with the Oilers. Although every part of me knows the likelihood is less than 0%.

    Thanks for all the Weekly Yaks. Are you going to continue it next season if he remains in the K?

    Also, congrats to Slepy on getting to the final. And Hartikainen. And Omark. Those two had massive playoff performances.

  169. OmJo says:

    YKOil:
    Lucic trade all comes down to Lucic.He needs to be encouraged (again) to find a trade and he needs to waive that NTC.

    Very wrong of me to think this way (probably) but I probably sit him every game.Would rather pay him and not trade him than buy him out if a trade is out there and he uses NTC to say no.

    His comments RE Strome (ie, a change of scenery really helped him find his game) makes me think he’s maybe more inclined for a change of scenery himself than last summer.

  170. YKOil says:

    OmJo: His comments RE Strome (ie, a change of scenery really helped him find his game) makes me think he’s maybe more inclined for a change of scenery himself than last summer.

    I think so too. And to be clear – I only invoke PB if I actually do find a trade and he refuses to waive NTC.

  171. OmJo says:

    With the Devils winning the lottery – do they open to trading Hall?

    Or do they convince Hall that he’s gonna have Kakko or Hughes on his wing and convince him to stay?

    Would you trade the 8th overall for Mr. Hall?

  172. pts2pndr says:

    Alpine:
    Decidedly Skeptical Fan,

    I guess it depends how much you weigh the negative vs the positive. I’m not sure the negative of being hit a lot constitutes enough of downside for me to say Yamamoto is trending down. I wouldn’t say he’s trending up either, he’s just going in more of straight line.

    It seems he’s being held to a high standard by a fan base that’s desperate for another forward to emerge. Late first rounders are supposed to have some flaws.

    Everything I have seen shows that the management has done everything possible to prove they were right in selecting Yamamoto with their first round pick. After watching him play against his peers it was obvious to me he was either the third or fourth best player drafted that year. I said it then and still believe it true even though as an Oiler fan I hope I am wrong.

  173. Reja says:

    YKOil: Other than PB, only solutions are to play, trade, or buy him out.Playing him is also toxic, to winning anyways.

    Robidas island maybe, but he has to buy into that.

    He’s pretty much buy out prove unless it’s a freebie in next years expansion draft. I really think he will be dealt this off-season after he gets his bonus he needs a fresh start in a new city. Maybe his value will go up if the caps repeat and Tom Wilson steamrolls everyone in his path.

  174. OmJo says:

    YKOil: I think so too.And to be clear – I only invoke PB if I actually do find a trade and he refuses to waive NTC.

    It would be harsh but honestly I think he would benefit from a change in scenery to a city not as hockey-crazed as Edmonton, where his game won’t be dissected every shift. And if he refuses that he’s not helping the team or himself and so… you gotta do what you gotta do.

    Not to invoke the “Edmonton is a tough place to play” meme intentionally. But that’s what I tell him in whatever meetings he and future GM will have. Bring up Strome, Dubnyk, Schultz, etc. as evidence. Show him a glass of pure N. Saskatchewan water. Be like this is the cause of all your problems. Have Nicholson in the back, nodding in agreement. Show him a picture of Rieder. Say this is why you aren’t a good hockey player anymore. Have Nicholson give him two thumbs up.

    Then bingo. He’s gone.

  175. OmJo says:

    Taylor Hall
    @hallsy09
    This has been some kind of heater folks. This is like when you’ve hit the blackjack tables and made 10x the money you came with. For one final bet, you toss on half your winnings and hope for the best. Either way, you’ve gotten lucky and came out ahead. Here goes

    Taylor Hall
    @hallsy09
    They talk about Gretzky’s 92 goals or Sittler’s 10 pts in one game as records that may never be broken. But winning 5 draft lotteries in your first 9 years in the league? In 2 different draft lottery eras, no less. That is a record that will stand forever.

    Taylor Hall
    @hallsy09
    Honestly though, very excited to welcome our future #1 overall pick to Jersey! Great start to the summer for the Devils.

  176. Bulging Twine says:

    There are 14 balls placed in the lottery machine, here are theIndividual balls drawn in the last three years:

    2, 4, 10, 12
    2, 5, 9, 11
    2, 3, 9, 11

    2018
    1, 4, 6, 14
    1, 2, 5, 14
    1, 2, 6, 12
    4, 5, 6, 8

    2017
    1, 5, 6, 12
    5, 6, 8, 12
    2, 8, 6, 13

    How many times each ball has been drawn:
    1-4
    2-6
    3-1
    4-3
    5-5
    6-6
    7-0
    8-3
    9-2
    10-1
    11-2
    12-4
    13-1
    14-2

    Maybe that 7 ball is heavier and the two and six are lighter (as the winning ball gets sucked UP)

  177. Bulging Twine says:

    leadfarmer: I would be shocked if Chicago passed on Byram

    Bowman was on the pre lottery show and stated that they would be leaning towards taking a FW as they have selected a lot of D in recent years

  178. OriginalPouzar says:

    YKOil: Ottawa would be a trade down target for me as well.No way we get the #32 thrown in.

    Have thought about a Sekera for Condon exchange.

    Sekera, 8th
    FOR
    Condon, 19th

    Is a starting point.We gain $3.1 million Cap year 1 and $5.5 million Cap year 2.

    Why in the world would we trade a likely very good 2nd pairing d-man for nothing, let alone move down 11 spots to do it? In the name of cap space?

    To me, that’s one of the worst trade suggestions I’ve ever read.

    Sekera is not a no-value boat anchor contract – he is like number 3-4 on the list of players to trade in the name of cap space and certainly does not have negative value and certainly should not be traded without value back.

    He was fair to good in his return from the lineup – coming in 5 months behind the rest of the league with no training camp and playing a handful of games in the last 2 years. I imagine he’ll be close to original Sekera with a full training camp and not behind the league.

  179. OriginalPouzar says:

    Suntory Hanzo:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Kyoto is amazing.Enjoy your stay.We got some inside info when we went as my buddy’s Father in Law was the tourism head there.Tons to see.Thanksfully not bombed due to being a heritage site or something like that.Can’t comfirm if that was true or not.

    Try to hit Nara and Himeji-Jo if you can.

    Cool. Definitely have a day trip to Nara planned – wife has a few day trips in mind from Kyoto – not sure if Himeji-Jo is on the last but it very well could be.

  180. OriginalPouzar says:

    who: I wouldn’t be in a big rush to trade Sekera, if we have to add a sweetener .

    With respect to the original poster, its a terrible suggestion – I can’t find any reasonably logical reason for it.

  181. OriginalPouzar says:

    YKOil: Other than PB, only solutions are to play, trade, or buy him out.Playing him is also toxic, to winning anyways.

    Robidas island maybe, but he has to buy into that.

    Having Lucic on LTIR would be a horrible way to manage the cap – just awful.

    His cap hit does not go away.

  182. YKOil says:

    OriginalPouzar: Why in the world would we trade a likely very good 2nd pairing d-man for nothing, let alone move down 11 spots to do it? In the name of cap space?

    This is good. Cap space is not an issue and Sekera is a very good 2nd pair guy.

    Love it.

  183. OriginalPouzar says:

    Of course cap space is an issue – I’m quite certain I’ve never said it isn’t.

    Trading Sekera for zero return in the name of cap space is a terrible idea.

    Trading Sekera and moving down 11 spots in the draft isn’t an egregious idea and I can’t fathom any Oiler fan being in favor of such a move.

  184. russ99 says:

    Trading down would be to add a player not remove one.

    #8 and Jesse’s rights (signing his RFA contract is dubious at best) could get us a good NHL player and a low first or high second.y

    Also let’s not forget that trading Lucic, Sekera or Russell won’t happen until after July 1st, Lucic due to his bonus and the other two is when their trade protections downgrade. All three have full NMCs until then, Lucic still keeps his.

    With Lucic the play is try and move him with salary retained after the bonus vests on July 1 and offer Khaira arbitration to open a second buyout window for July so we can bite the bullet if there are no takers or if Lucic won’t budge if we find a taker.

  185. Maoriduvpoojt says:

    Professor Q: A few of those players are wingers, and the others could play wing also.

    We could also wind up with Krebs, Caufield, or even Byram (he could fall!). Lots of time left now to see how they all end up doing with the rest of the season, and during testing and interviews.

    Lavoie might also be working himself into the conversation in the top 8, he’s having a monster playoffs after a shaky start. Halifax looks like they will have at least another playoff round + Memorial Cup hosts. I don’t know of any others who might sneak into the conversation a la Kotkaniemi.

  186. The Trade Guy says:

    KIRBY DACH AND NOLAN MAIER SMASH THE EVIL HEADSHOTTING RAIDERS. WE DOING THIS!!!

    Seriously though, see Dach and Maier good here.

    http://saskatoonblades.com/video/game-3-highlights-2

  187. stephen sheps says:

    OmJo: Atta boy Yak!!

    I too think he might opt for another season in the KHL. Let himself grow a bit, too. I think he’s happy being close to home and family.

    He can a Radulov-esque return one day. Not gonna lie that every part of me hopes it is with the Oilers. Although every part of me knows the likelihood is less than 0%.

    Thanks for all the Weekly Yaks. Are you going to continue it next season if he remains in the K?

    Also, congrats to Slepy on getting to the final. And Hartikainen. And Omark. Those two had massive playoff performances.

    I think I’ll follow Yak’s career for as long as the kid plays. I really think there’s a player in there somewhere and definitely want to see where it goes. I’m also hoping for a Radulov-esque return in another year or two. Should it be with the Oil, I’ll be thrilled, and it means I’d be able to wear my #10 in blue again (though I assume he’ll stick with a number in the 60s when he comes back. Started as 64 and is wearing #65 with SKA right now).

    As to next year? If the blog wants it, I’ll happily continue to do it. I might have to find a different fake Russian style show to occasionally link to, since I think I used pretty much all of the SCTV CCCP1 clips throughout the season, except maybe the Vodka commercial bit and their hilariously dated (yet unfortunately prejudiced) ‘P.S.A’ against Uzbeks – the weak link in the great chain of socialism.

    Thanks to everyone who read and commented on the series throughout the year. It’s been a slog professionally, working on research while teaching more classes than ever before, so it’s been harder to stay engaged with the Oilers or comment on the regular. The series gave me a weekly reason to log in and say hello to everyone.

    Thanks especially to Hunter, whose decision to make Yak’s goal scoring totals the tiebreaker in the annual death march inspired me to do it in the first place.

    Go Yak!

  188. OmJo says:

    stephen sheps: I think I’ll follow Yak’s career for as long as the kid plays. I really think there’s a player in there somewhere and definitely want to see where it goes. I’m also hoping for a Radulov-esque return in another year or two. Should it be with the Oil, I’ll be thrilled, and it means I’d be able to wear my #10 in blue again (though I assume he’ll stick with a number in the 60s when he comes back. Started as 64 and is wearing #65 with SKA right now).

    As to next year? If the blog wants it, I’ll happily continue to do it. I might have to find a different fake Russian style show to occasionally link to, since I think I used pretty much all of the SCTV CCCP1 clips throughout the season, except maybe the Vodka commercial bit and their hilariously dated (yet unfortunately prejudiced) ‘P.S.A’ against Uzbeks – the weak link in the great chain of socialism.

    Thanks to everyone who read and commented on the series throughout the year. It’s been a slog professionally, working on research while teaching more classes than ever before, so it’s been harder to stay engaged with the Oilers or comment on the regular. The series gave me a weekly reason to log in and say hello to everyone.

    Thanks especially to Hunter, whose decision to make Yak’s goal scoring totals the tiebreaker in the annual death march inspired me to do it in the first place.

    Go Yak!

    I won’t speak for the whole community but I really hope – if you have the time – you do continue the Weekly Yak updates next season. Nice to see the Yak fanclub isn’t dead yet lol.

  189. stephen sheps says:

    OmJo: I won’t speak for the whole community but I really hope – if you have the time – you do continue the Weekly Yak updates next season. Nice to see the Yak fanclub isn’t dead yet lol.

    Consider it done. I’m in. I’ll make the time.

  190. deardylan says:

    OmJo: Yak

    Sheps,

    Yes I concur with Omjo. Thanks again for all your Yakkity Yak Updates.

    Once an Oiler, always an Oiler!

  191. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: Nope – 4 balls are chosen that create a 4 digit code.

    Prior to the draft all potential codes are assigned to the teams – Colorado with the most codes.

    Right, so the fact that we beat CGY is largely meaningless, because we would just have got a few more non-winning codes.

  192. Professor Q says:

    The Trade Guy:
    KIRBY DACH AND NOLAN MAIER SMASH THE EVIL HEADSHOTTING RAIDERS. WE DOING THIS!!!

    Seriously though, see Dach and Maier good here.

    http://saskatoonblades.com/video/game-3-highlights-2

    I want Dach to drop to #8…

  193. godot10 says:

    ArmchairGM: Right,so the fact that we beat CGY is largely meaningless, because we would just have got a few more non-winning codes.

    The Oilers would have had the Ranger codes if they had lost to Calgary. The ones that won the 2nd lottery.

  194. Maoriduvpoojt says:

    stephen sheps,

    Yak fan as well, I appreciate the updates.

    Thank you!

  195. Professor Q says:

    godot10: The Oilers would have had the Ranger codes if they had lost to Calgary.The ones that won the 2nd lottery.

    But they also might not have.

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