Forever Doesn’t Mean Forever Anymore

by Lowetide

Dave Tippett played hockey in the ’70’s, ’80’s and ’90’s. When he stopped playing, he went directly into coaching and he worked his way up from the IHL to assistant coach in the NHL to head coach. He’s never won a Stanley but took a Dallas team and a Phoenix team into the third round. You can find a lot of people who are willing to tear a strip off this hire before the media avail, but I think Mr. Tippett warrants a more nuanced view.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. INSANE OFFER IS HERE!

  • New Lowetide: What will Ken Holland see in Evan Bouchard?
  • New Lowetide: Does Oilers’ signing of Joakim Nygard signal a measured approach to summer 2019?
  • Lowetide: Dave Tippett’s roster deployment in Arizona and what it might mean for the Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: Why Ken Holland’s worst years in Detroit tell us the most about how he’ll fare in Edmonton
  • Jonathan Willis: Three offseason scenarios and how each one would affect the Oilers salary cap
  • Lowetide: Examining the Oilers’ goaltending options in free agency.
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland’s Oilers could go the high octane procurement route but will need a driver
  • Lowetide: How much can Connor Brown help the Oilers?
  • Lowetide: Dmitri Samorukov is off to the Memorial Cup and is the Oilers’ fastest rising prospect
  • Jonathan Willis: Craig MacTavish leaves the Oilers, signalling the first major front office change under Ken Holland
  • Lowetide: What kind of coach should Ken Holland hire for the Oilers?
  • Jonathan Willis: Every Oilers AHL prospect, rated by how close they are to the NHL
  • Jonathan Willis: A resurgent Andrej Sekera gives the Oilers much-needed defensive options
  • Lowetide: Is Joe Gambardella destined to become the Oilers’ next Fernando Pisani?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Protector, supporter, confidant: Connor McDavid’s mom, Kelly, is his off-ice rock through good times and bad
  • Lowetide: An offseason plan for Ken Holland to remodel the Oilers roster.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Ken Holland steadfast that buck stops with him as new Oilers GM.
  • Lowetide: How will Ken Holland proceed in Year 1 as Oilers general manager?
  • Jonathan Willis: What does the arrival of Ken Holland mean for the Oilers coaching search?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Prioritizing the roster issues that await Ken Holland in Edmonton.
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland’s procurement list for his rumored move to Edmonton will include front-office personnel
  • Jonathan Willis: A Milan Lucic trade is at the top of the to-do list for the Oilers’ next GM.

Nice headphones. That was state of the art back then, I remember wearing those same mic/phones back in the day.

What were Tippett’s best teams? His Dallas team ’05-06 and ’06-07 both won 50 or more games. They were veteran teams, strong, with some speed and grit. Mike Modano, Bill Guerin, Jere Lehtinen, Brenden Morrow, Jason Arnott.

Who was their best player? I’ll say Sergei Zubov. He was 300 years old, lived on pickled eggs and vodka shots, but my goodness what a player.

Goalie? In Dallas, Marty Turco and then Mike Smith.

Best Coyotes team? The first one, they won 50 games and had a balanced, veteran team. The 2011-12 team went the farthest though, third round.

Who was their best player? The goalie is always a star for Tippett, so Ilya Bryzgalov and then Mike Smith are prominent names. Among skaters, before OEL, I’d list Shane Doan, an emerging Martin Hanzal, Radim Vrbata.

What are the strengths of Tippett’s teams? The best ones, by that I mean all but the final few Coyotes teams, were good at outscoring opponents.

Example? In 2005-06, the average NHL team scored and allowed 248 goals. Dallas scored 253 and allowed 217. They were solid on the power play-penalty kill (scored 88, allowed 82, average 85-85) but the strength came at even strength (155-128, +27).

Another example? In 2011-12, in Phoenix. Average team scored and allowed 218 goals, Coyotes 210-194. At even strength, Phoenix scored 170 goals, allowed 152, +18.

How many even-strength goals did Edmonton score and allow last season? Oilers scored 172, allowed 202. That 202 number should get carved down handsomely if Tippett can deliver as he’s been able to do in the past.

How many points do Tippett’s team post in his first season as coach? Dallas had 111 points and won the Pacific Division in 2002-03. Phoenix Coyotes had 107 points in 2009-10, his team finished second in the Pacific.

QUESTIONS

One of the big questions surrounding Dave Tippett (and Ken Holland) and their arrival in Edmonton is Jesse Puljujarvi. Look, I know he isn’t working out but you just can’t leave him by the side of the road. Seriously. If they’re going to move on, make a deal that gets the organization something, and puts JP in a good spot. I would suggest a quality AHL forward in or near entry deal. Here are the best in the pool based on being under 23 and having a solid points-per-game total. I included two Oilers kids for fun, this is 5-on-5 scoring.

RC Cooper Marody 58, 12-28-40 (.690)

R Drake Batherson 59, 16-24-40 (.678) Not a chance Ottawa deals him.

LC John Quenneville 37, 9-15-24 (.649) NJD would probably trade him, don’t know if JP would be a target.

L AJ Greer 54, 12-20-32 (.593) Colorado would be an interesting spot for JP, not sure if Greer could be pried loose.

L Tyler Benson 68, 13-27-40 (.588)

LC Aleksei Saarela 69, 20-16-36 (.522) Playing alongside Sebastian Aho might be ideal for JP, would they deal promising scorer Saarela?

BALANCE

The television kept telling me ‘moar big’ was the reason for St. Louis and Boston making the Stanley Cup Finals this spring. I’ve mentioned this 1,000 times, but for me the key elements for both teams are things like goaltending, outscoring and balance.

What do I mean by balance? Well, Boston is a balanced team. They boast two quality goaltenders, some puck movers (Krug) and some shutdown (Chara) types and some very nice young blue (McAvoy, Carlo, Grzelcyk) contributing to the cause. They have depth, as demonstrated by Connor Clifton’s emergence.

Up front, they have Patrice Bergeron, who is pretty close to perfect. Brad Marchand is a titmouse but the man can play and David Pastrnak is a pure sniper.

That veteran forward group (which also includes David Krejci) is followed up with two excellent youngsters who can help with the offense (Jake DeBrusk, Danton Heinen). The bottom six can skate, deliver some offense and play a disciplined game.

That’s balance. Not every player is a speed demon with a howitzer, but each man on the roster can supply something of value. Twelve players have seven or more points, that’s depth across the roster. The added rentals (Charlie Coyle, Marcus Johansson) have also contributed.

You can have Adam Larsson on your team, but Adam Larsson and Kris Russell on your team means two defenders who aren’t expert with the puck inside the top 4D. Darnell Nurse can transport like a King but is not a great outlet passer. If you take out (say) Russell, and place Evan Bouchard inside the top 4D, that means Oscar Klefbom and Bouchard can play the role of passing blue on one pairing each. That’s the goal for Ken Holland and (soon) Dave Tippett. Godspeed.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260, it’s going to be a big day. Jonathan Willis from The Athletic will join us at 10:20 and we’ll chat Tippett and Milan Lucic trade scenarios. At 11, Ken Holland introduces Dave Tippett (we believe) as Edmonton’s 21st head coach (including WHA). 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. History is made today. We’ve been saying that a lot lately.

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OriginalPouzar

3 year deal for Tippett.

Sounds like the assistants will not be announced today.

Prob at least one of Lamb and/or Playfair.

Yawney prob gone to LA.

Gulutzan May stay.

Hope Viverios does.

Presser at 11.

N64

May 7th 10 am
May 28th 11 am

Oil announcements not always revolving around feeding the rights-holder’s noon show. That’s a good thing.

N64

OriginalPouzar: Sounds like the assistants will not be announced today.

@TSNRyanRishaug
28m28 minutes ago

Not expecting an announcement on rest of coaching staff today for the Oilers, likely head coach only for now.

Woodguy v2.0

I’m happy with the Tippett signing.

From what I’ve gleaned from his record and heard/read from those who have played for him he maximizes the roster’s strengths rather than impose a system of play on a roster regardless of the roster make up.

Seems to shelter kids properly to bring out their best (see: first two years of Domi, Duclair etc in ARI)

Many players have had their best offensive years with him as coach and the goals against tend to go down due to a good defensive structure.

I’m cautiously optimistic.

Jethro Tull

Woodguy v2.0: I’m cautiously optimistic.

We’ll hope for the best!

Jaxon

“Jesse Puljujarvi. Look, I know he isn’t working out”

Let’s slow our roll on Puljujarvi being a bust. He just turned 21 two weeks ago. My goodness. Plus, his underlying numbers and points production have been great with great linemates and against bottom 9 players. He had a decent 2nd NHL season. What lead to him taking a step back this season. That is a pretty darn important piece of information. Was it his hip? Was it being bounced around too much? Was it terrible linemates? Is it still a cultural thing or a processing the game thing? The Oilers need to figure this out and take steps to get the most out of him before they even consider washing their hands of Jesse.

If given a chance, I think there’s a real chance he’ll make big steps this season.

Ben

Woodguy v2.0:
I’m happy with the Tippett signing.

From what I’ve gleaned from his record and heard/read from those who have played for him he maximizes the roster’s strengths rather than impose a system of play on a roster regardless of the roster make up.

Seems to shelter kids properly to bring out their best (see: first two years of Domi, Duclair etc in ARI)

Many players have had their best offensive years with him as coach and the goals against tend to go down due to a good defensive structure.

I’m cautiously optimistic.

Agreed. He’s also a numbers guy.

Would prefer a younger, special teams innovator on the assistant staff (this was the hope for Viveiros last year).

.

Jethro Tull

The Oilers had a very real opportunity to innovate and get on the inside track when it comes to analytics and cap management.

Remember, Chia and Todd were also touted as the safe hands to guide the Oilers into the McDavid era.

But it seems as once again Darryl turns to Bob and says, “we need another GM and Coach. Here’s a shovel, some mandrake root and directions to the Hockey Cemetery.”

The mandate from the top was to not just build a middling playoff team, but a legit contender. You rarely do that by trying the same things the others are doing, but only they have been doing it longer and better.

This is a meh signing for me. A yawn of a signing. The Oilers will still likely deal with a GM that constructs a flawed roster, a coach that let’s him know with baffling deployment and players that are willing to accept infini-build.

This may not end well. Of course, we may end up with 108pts and a conference final next year, in which case I’ll edit my little heart out!

OriginalPouzar

Dammit, already posted this but it got lost in LT forum cyberspace….

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:You can have Adam Larsson on your team, but Adam Larsson and Kris Russell on your team means two defenders who aren’t expert with the puck inside the top 4D. Darnell Nurse can transport like a King but is not a great outlet passer. If you take out (say) Russell, and place Evan Bouchard inside the top 4D, that means Oscar Klefbom and Bouchard can play the role of passing blue on one pairing each. That’s the goal for Ken Holland and (soon) Dave Tippett. Godspeed.”

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What if we have Andrei Sekera, a puck mover, in the top 4 instead of Kris Russell – with either Russell traded or on the 3rd pairing?

Yes, that would mean Sekera or another leftie d-man (Nurse) on their off-side so not ideal, however, Russell on his off-side at 2RD is far from ideal

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What is there is a plus puck mover such as Jones or Persson (or Bear, although he isn’t ready and should be below Lagesson on the depth cart) on the 3rd pairing? Does that help the puck moving as a group or will they not play enough 5 on 5 minutes? Of course, it remains to be seen how exactly their game and transition game will translate to the NHL right awa.

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Yes, clearly the organization has plans for Bouchard on the right side in the top 4, however, that cannot be for the 2019/20 season and likely not even for the 2020/21 season – for the 2021/22 season for sure.

bwar

Big year coming for the Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian line.

Caribbeerman

I am intrigued by the Tippett signing. A more qualified coach would be difficult to identify and I think this two year break could actually help as it may have allowed him to study the game and the changes that have been occurring. He must be chomping at the bit to get back behind the bench, but even more so with a superstar like CMD. He along with Dutch will form a very professional partnership at the head of the franchise and establish a commitment to winning and hopefully a recognizable culture change.

Talk is cheap, results are what matter, the players are the ones who make the difference on the ice & ultimately are the difference between winning and losing. But the Coach and GM choose the roster, the style of play and the deployment… and that makes a big difference as well. I’m optimistic that the Oilers have an excellent chance to get this right in year 1 and for years to come.

Darth Tu

Ben: Agreed. He’s also a numbers guy.

Would prefer a younger, special teams innovator on the assistant staff (this was the hope for Viveiros last year).

.

I’m hoping Viveiros is sticking around with Tippet and will get that chance to really run with the special teams this season.

I’m in the WG camp of being cautiously optimistic.

Bar_Qu

If only there were some sort of visual, a picture even, that could effectively demonstrate what balance looks like. Oh well, we will just have to guess what that might be. 😉

Jaxon

For instance, over the past 3 seasons and 138 minutes at 5v5, when Puljujarvi and McDavid were on the ice together without Draisaitl or Nugent-Hopkins, they OutScored the opposition 21-10, OutCorsied them 399-324, OutFenwicked them 303-236. Out High-Danger-Corsied them 96-65. That is McDavid’s best partner from a shots and goals percentage without the others. Not a very big sample size, but why the hell wouldn’t the coaches keep running with that?!?!

Khaira-Draisaitl also have a similar relationship in limited minutes over 3 season and 138 minutes of 5v5 (interestingly the exact same sample size as JP & McD), not as good, but still quite good considering it was without Nuge and McD, Khaira and Draisaitl have OutCorsied 176-160, OutFenwicked 135-121, OutScored 11-9, Out High-Danger-Corsied 36-29. Much lower event than McDavid and Puljujarvi but still winning possession and games.

Craig Zonit

The hairiest of asses line. Though I think Kassian will continue to take a regular shift with McDavid.
Caribbeerman,

Woodguy v2.0

Jethro Tull: We’ll hope for the best!

The Oiler Fan Way

Woogie63

Jaxon:
“Jesse Puljujarvi. Look, I know he isn’t working out”

Let’s slow our roll on Puljujarvi being a bust. He just turned 21 two weeks ago. My goodness. Plus, his underlying numbers and points production have been great with great linemates and against bottom 9 players. He had a decent 2nd NHL season. What lead to him taking a step back this season. That is a pretty darn important piece of information. Was it his hip? Was it being bounced around too much? Was it terrible linemates? Is it still a cultural thing or a processing the game thing? The Oilers need to figure this out and take steps to get the most out of him before they even consider washing their hands of Jesse.

If given a chance, I think there’s a real chance he’ll make big steps this season.

This is right,
Imagine if this team had Dubynk, Petry and Shultz right now?

godot10
hunter1909

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Kinger_Oil.redux

– I will paraphrase what I had before, and just want to get it out so I can concentrate on GOILERS

– I think Tippet is for better or worse from the Hitch or Coach tree: he’s apparently better with the players than those two, but its a D-first, get into positions, possession: status-quo. He is fine

– Also, the sh$t show with the coaching carousel made it hard to go with anything other than the best guy on paper who wasn’t available untill he was, then we got ’em: the best we could have expected

– I thought they should have kept Renney longer. Ralph has a short shelf, but if they brought in an x o guy to support him as planned that would have worked better for a year or 2, untill they stopped buying what he was selling. Nelson being replaced by Coach is like Tippet: it was to be expected, and you can’t blame them for going for the “best”

– Tippet’s in his role with Seattle presumably spent a lot of time with a bird’s eye view on the league, and looking at the type of players we need: i’.e. not the superstars, but the ones on the margin on teams. So if he can use this in his role, that’s a unique proflle (different than being an ex-coach commentator for instance that gets re-hired)

– Its all about the roster. McD and Drai will continue to get better, that helps any coach.

– If Tippet gets 65 games + from all of the top-4 D (either the ones on the roster or their replacements), we will look back and praise him

– We have bought a year for the development: so that should help the coach as well

– When Hitch got hired: there was so much baloney going on in here about how he was a saviour, and taking small samples to make massive inferences. Hitch got the same out of team as Coach at the end, and don’t think there was another coach who would have done better

– Now, with no expectations, and not having to deal with the wine-summit v Chia and a press that will give the team a pass this year, and players reading and hearing and watching the sky fall every day they should be a lot better

– We for sure aren’t innovative with this: Feels like IBM executive blue-chip hires in an Apple, Google innovation: solid for IBM, but not to change the world. We aren’t doing innovation.

– I hope he can have a little: “play with the hand you’ve got” approach, and not entirely “this is the way I teach hockey, so listen, or your done”

– We have two great players: need health, some draft guys to work, and luck and who knows: if it goes bad, we can blame Holland and Tippett for being old-school. If it works out: we can applaud the genius of Holland being able to replicate Detroit elsewhere, and Tippet for being the right coach at the right time for this team.

GOILERS

Bag of Pucks

hunter1909,

Given the Oilers underperformance during those years, I’m going to recognize them as the top 10 pessimists/realists on the board as well ?

dustrock

It’s a hard hire to complain about, and maybe that’s what Nicholson was looking for.

McLellan and Hitchcock were both highly, highly experienced, and other than a perfect season in Year 2 of T-Mac and a couple of hot flashes with Hitch, they couldn’t figure it out.

I knew we were in trouble after the success in the playoffs when McLellan said he was worried about the player attitudes in training camp. They tried to tell them the team will now have a huge target on its back and it will only get more difficult. Many of the players said after 2017-187 they didn’t realize how much more difficult it would be.

Then we had the 2018-19 season, which was maybe the most disappointing.

We joke about talk of “the room” and the “team culture” and it seems obvious the most important thing is to acquire good players, develop them and keep them.

But I look at a team like Boston.

Players like:

Acciari
Kuraly
Clifton
Grzelcyk

are contributing in real ways. I just assume that none of these players would have an impact in Edmonton.

Getting a guy like Tippett to grow the culture in a positive direction makes some sense.

LT is also right that the Oilers typically employ a shit sandwich roster, with one crust the young players who are being relied upon for way too much, and the other crust some gritty bottom liner veterans, with no delicious peanut butter and bacon actual talented veteran players anywhere in the roster.

Who was the closest to an actual impactful veteran forward in the last 5 years? Pat Maroon? Benoit Pouliot?

It’s not just bringing in veterans: the Oilers could make Andrew Ference their captain, and he could be nominated for sainthood and it wouldn’t matter if he couldn’t play.

Boston’s veteran players command attention because they are their best players. Tim Thomas was as crazy as shit but when he was in a zone, you just stay out of his way.

Even on previous Bruins teams, a guy like Dr. Mark Recchi, who was near the end of his career, was as talented as hell and still could play.

I’m not sure how Holland will be able to bring in actual skilled veteran players (especially on forward) but that’s just as much a key to me as hiring a good coach.

dustrock

Also, for people complaining about Tippett being another “the D have to be in position” coach, well, the Oilers are an incredibly shitty defensive team.

The Bruins are not. The Blues are not. Same with the Sharks and Golden Knights.

The other funny thing is, the Bruins score some nice goals. Even nice goals from their bottom 2 lines! For real!

Playing defence correctly doesn’t preclude skill being used.

flea

hunter1909,

Awesome Hunter!! I thought I might take ‘er down this year but the Oilers came up lame at the end. I didn’t realize I was so close the year before too. I do remember thinking they’d regress when everyone else was picking them as a cup contender. Crazy how quickly things change.

I think the Tippett signing is interesting, and could work out. He’s definitely going to get a roster that will need to overperform in order to make it.

Bag of Pucks

Like it does for many, failure has made the Oilers safe in their decision process.

They went unproven with Krueger, Eakins and Nelson without getting the results they wanted. Now they’re on the cycle of experienced retreads. Hopefully there will be some innovative contributions coming from the assistants as well.

All that said, i think experienced is better than not with the modern athlete. If an older coach is a good communicator, a successful track record helps to sell the plan and ‘selling’ staff on the vision is the new reality in leadership dynamics. Gord forbid that you just get on with the work.

ArmchairGM

Jaxon:
For instance, over the past 3 seasons and 138 minutes at 5v5, when Puljujarvi and McDavid were on the ice together without Draisaitl or Nugent-Hopkins, they outscored the opposition 21-10, OutCorsied them 399-324, OutFenwicked them 303-236. Out High Danger corsied them 96-65. That is McDavid’s best partner from a shots and goals percentage without the others. Not a very big sample size, but why the hell wouldn’t the coaches keep running with that?!?!

Khaira-Draisaitl also have a similar relationship in limited minutes over 3 season and 138 minutes of 5v5 (interestingly the exact same sample size as JP & McD), not as good, but still quite good considering it was without Nuge and McD, Khaira and Draisaitl have outCorsied 176-60, OutFenwicked 135-121, OutSocred 11-9, Out High Danger Corsied 36-29. Much lower event than McDavid and Puljujarvi but still winning possession and games.

Cool! This lines up pretty well with my findings too, I’m really hoping for a Burakovsky – McDavid – Puljujarvi 1st line because it won’t hurt McDavid’s production and it will boost the 2nd line by a factor of 3 at least.

Just look at 29 + 93 without 97 on the ice… if Benson can find a home with those two men it means Holland’s UFA targets this summer will be of the cheap, bottom-6 variety. Which is huge because I would have a couple of expensive hard targets in free agency next summer, including (but not limited to) Hall, Pietrangelo, Kreider and Dadonov.

ArmchairGM

Craig Zonit:
The hairiest of asses line. Though I think Kassian will continue to take a regular shift with McDavid.
Caribbeerman,

If it was up to me, I’d create a “forecheckers from hell” 4th line: Gambardella – Khaira – Kassian.

dustrock

ArmchairGM: If it was up to me, I’d create a “forecheckers from hell” 4th line: Gambardella – Khaira – Kassian.

Exactly. A guy like Kuraly has an important role to play because he’s got a bit of skill and speed to burn. Can Gambardella play that kind of role?

That’s why I like the Nygard signing. Get some bottom six guys who are all blazing fast, get that forecheck going.

jake70

I like that he has been out of the coaching game for a bit. Chance to reflect on his own strengths and weaknesses as a coach – allows the ego to settle in a bit in the background.

Jaxon

ArmchairGM: Cool! This lines up pretty well with my findings too, I’m really hoping for a Burakovsky – McDavid– Puljujarvi 1st line because it won’t hurt McDavid’s production and it will boost the 2nd line by a factor of 3 at least.

Just look at 29 + 93 without 97 on the ice… if Benson can find a home with those two men it means Holland’s UFA targets this summer will be of the cheap, bottom-6 variety. Which is huge because I would have a couple of expensive hard targets in free agency next summer, including (but not limited to) Hall, Pietrangelo, Kreider and Dadonov.

Seriously. That’s the equivalent of about 10 full games together (is 14 minutes of 5v5 about right for to line?) where they outscored the opposition 21 to 10. So over 82 games they’d outscore the opposition about 172 to 82. I know that’s a huge oversimplification and, again, a small sample size, but I really can’t understand why a team wouldn’t ride that combo out until it’s proven to be an an unsustainable anomaly or proven to be their real chemistry together.

GordieHoweHatTrick

I think having a coach and GM on the same page is a good start!
Hasn’t happened in oil land for several years…
Cheers from Helsinki
On a work trip
A very happy hockey city here at the moment 😉

GordieHoweHatTrick

Jaxon:
For instance, over the past 3 seasons and 138 minutes at 5v5, when Puljujarvi and McDavid were on the ice together without Draisaitl or Nugent-Hopkins, they OutScored the opposition 21-10, OutCorsied them 399-324, OutFenwicked them 303-236. Out High-Danger-Corsied them 96-65. That is McDavid’s best partner from a shots and goals percentage without the others. Not a very big sample size, but why the hell wouldn’t the coaches keep running with that?!?!

Khaira-Draisaitl also have a similar relationship in limited minutes over 3 season and 138 minutes of 5v5 (interestingly the exact same sample size as JP & McD), not as good, but still quite good considering it was without Nuge and McD, Khaira and Draisaitl have OutCorsied 176-160, OutFenwicked 135-121, OutScored 11-9, Out High-Danger-Corsied 36-29. Much lower event than McDavid and Puljujarvi but still winning possession and games.

Let’s hope those are some of the first numbers Tippett sees

russ99

Jesse’s offensive zone instincts are all wrong. Until that gets fixed with reps, I don’t care who you play him with and have his numbers zoomed, he’s not going to be a productive player.

I’m real curious how Tippett will work with and deploy him. If everything breaks perfectly, he could be another Hanzal-style player, but there’s miles of work to get there.

Ideally, he’d get some time out of the NHL lineup first, maybe an “extended spring training” preseason on IR with the Condors group and then an extended rehab assignment.

I know the CBA doesn’t let him suit up and practice when on IR, but I’d still like to see how “prospect whisperer” Woodcroft can work with him on and off the ice before he comes back to play in Edmonton.

Throwing him high up in an NHL lineup would be the worst thing you can do to him right now.

LadiesloveSmid

I hope they keep Pulju & bring in a good 3C.

Don’t see one in UFA.

OriginalPouzar

No Bob Nicholson at the presser – Holland starts it.

He asked Hitch to help him in the process.

Put together a list of 17 candidates.

Over the last few weeks, Ken and Hitch worked the phones alot, talked to a lot of managers, alot of coaches, worked their way through the list. Tippet was always A leading candidate.

OriginalPouzar

Talked to players that had played for Tippet as well.

Holland says he’s big on experience.

His team’s play with structure. Players are held accountable. Great communicator.

Looks forward to working with Dave to build the team.

Pouzar

OriginalPouzar: No Bob Nicholson at the presser

The way it should be.

OriginalPouzar

Tippet says Holland and he have talked about the vision and they agree – they agree on how hard you have to play. Speed. Sound defensive teams but allow the players to furnish with the puck.

OriginalPouzar

Stauffer asks about staff – current assistants and make-up of staff.

Tippet wants to talk with current coaches first and hasn’t been able to do that – he does know them all.

He will go through the process with the incumbents before he does anything.

OriginalPouzar

He believe the coaches responsibility is to maximize the talents of each individual no matter what their skill set is. You see what they can do and put them in a position to succeed. You’ve just go to find ways to win. “There is never an excuse for not winning” – tired, etc. is not an excuse, need to find a way.

OriginalPouzar

Terry Jones asks if he has a preliminary idea on how to use McDavid/Drai – together, separate, etc.:

He does know Connor from working with him at the World Cup but doesn’t know Drai. He’s watched alot of video. He does like them together as they seem to feed off each other.

He’s not stuck on that but he realizes they do feed off each other.

He’ll need to see where the roster is at and go through camp of course.

OriginalPouzar

Gregor asked about how they will move the puck up the ice from defence:

Tippet says there needs to be a 5-man attack, 5-man units.

Defence have to be involved and there needs to be great support with d-partners and the forwards.

The D have to be involved in the forecheck as well.

ArmchairGM

LadiesloveSmid:
I hope they keep Pulju & bring in a good 3C.

Don’t see one in UFA.

No, but there’s a couple of good ones available in the draft. That likely means we’ll need a 1 year stopgap until Dach / Cozens / Zegras is ready to play 3C. I’d be happy with Filppula on a 1 year contract, and I imagine Holland would be comfortable with him too.

OriginalPouzar

Holland is asked about building along with Tippet.

Long-winded answer but talks about the pipeline of d-man and, again, specifically mentions Samorukov.

Of course, he mentions need to develop the d-man.

OriginalPouzar

Pouzar: The way it should be.

Man the pressers have a “different tone” with Holland/Tippett vs. Nicholson/Chiarelli

Pouzar

OriginalPouzar: Man the pressers have a “different tone” with Holland/Tippett vs. Nicholson/Chiarelli

Big time.

N64

OriginalPouzar: Man the pressers have a “different tone” with Holland/Tippett vs. Nicholson/Chiarelli

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OriginalPouzar:
Gregor asked about how they will move the puck up the ice from defence:

Tippet says there needs to be a 5-man attack, 5-man units.

Defence have to be involved and there needs to be great support with d-partners and the forwards.

The D have to be involved in the forecheck as well.

5 man attacking units, that’s music to my ears. We need to tweak that D for that to happen though, it’s never happening with Russell playing as the 2RD.

OriginalPouzar

Gregor asks Tippett about the use of analytics from a coaching perspective.

Tippett said he starting doing analytics in 1995 – he had tons of data and spreadsheets.

He says they will absolutely use the data in their preparation and practice, etc. – definitely is in favor of using analytics.

Big one for Tippett is scoring chances for and against, different rankings of them and who was involved in them. He will make certain decisions on them.

OriginalPouzar

Using analytics can help maximize what a player can do.