Oilers at No. 8: Philip Broberg

Craig Button, TSN: “Elite skating defenceman makes it very difficult to forecheck him and allows him to open up ice. Attributes of a modern NHL blueliner.”

Corey Pronman, The Athletic: He’s a 6-foot-3 defenseman who is an elite skater. That combination alone is scary.

Scott Wheeler, The Athletic: In the right program, there’s no question that there’s a lot to tap into. But there’s definitely a lot of risk associated with taking him in the first half of the first round.

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  1. Munny says:

    And if I was to guess Holland’s philosophy in first rounds I’d say it is go for the biggest upside at your spot.

  2. BlacqueJacque says:

    Man, it’s interesting coming back to the old stomping grounds after 6 years? I dunno, maybe I’ve posted in between, but if so I don’t remember and I’d probably be drunk anyway. Doing less of that now. 🙂

    Some things never change – the Oilers are a hopelessly inept loser organization, as they have been for almost two decades now.

    Other things do – the comments here seem decidedly more negative than they were when I stopped following this blog (and the team – but in all fairness, if it wasn’t for LT and some of you like NYCOil, I’d have come to my senses years earlier).

    First draft I’ve watched since … Nurse? in 2013.

    Just some thoughts:

    1. Life is a lot better without the Oilers. I drink less. I have more money (no more ticket purchases, no more swag, way less liquor consumption) – the retirement fund is up, conservatively, about $10-15k more than it would be otherwise. This feels especially good since I hit 40 a while back. Wife is happier, kid less so, but he’ll live.

    2. More pertinent to today’s draft – it seems like the draft lists were completely irrelevant past Byram. Anyone shitting on Holland for not trading down is somehow overlooking Stevie Yzerman not doing the same thing for another “reach” pick. There’s no guarantee Broberg would have been there at 9, never mind 12 or whatever a meaningful trade down would be.

    3. Seems like a very weak draft anyway, unless scoring numbers among forwards have been this low for a few years now. I can’t say, but the numbers on TSN and Sportsnet weren’t that impressive outside of a few guys.

    4. Not sure I like that Hughes kid. Pretty sure my 14 year old would take his lunch money, if it came down to that sort of thing. I foresee separated shoulders and back issues galore in a rather short career.

    Good luck everyone!

  3. Munny says:

    Aho apparently also wants a 5 year term. This is going to be the thing from now on.

  4. blainer says:

    Numenius: Note: Kaliyev is an Uzbek who grew up in Staten Island, New York since he was 2.

    So he’s more an American than anything.

    After watching his interview on youtube from the combine I’m taking a pass on Kaliyev.

  5. BlacqueJacque says:

    blainer: After watching his interview on youtube from the combine I’m taking a pass on Kaliyev.

    I’d take a shot at him, but not with the Oilers culture. This team doesn’t seem to integrate odd players very well – Yakupov being my go-to example.

    It’s unfortunate that he has such a pronounced underbite and he’s clearly a bit awkward socially as a result, but I think a smart team would draft him in the second round, set him up with a psychologist and speech therapist if necessary. He’s clearly not being passed over for hockey reasons, and I feel bad for the kid for falling out of the 1st round.

  6. leadfarmer says:

    Munny:
    Defenseman at 18 are voodoo.

    We could have picked the best defenseman out of the first round or we might have taken the worst.Or, of course, anything in between.

    Button has him 7th, THN, McKeen’s, Pronman have him top 10. Holland liked him over USNDTP kids he had seen dozens of times.CSS has him 5th out of Euro skaters and behind Soderstrom, Heinola but ahead of Seider in rankings.All over the place for every Dman but Byram.

    That’s why we drafted a 17 year old

  7. blainer says:

    BlacqueJacque: I’d take a shot at him, but not with the Oilers culture.This team doesn’t seem to integrate odd players very well – Yakupov being my go-to example.

    It’s unfortunate that he has such a pronounced underbite and he’s clearly a bit awkward socially as a result, but I think a smart team would draft him in the second round, set him up with a psychologist and speech therapist if necessary.He’s clearly not being passed over for hockey reasons, and I feel bad for the kid for falling out of the 1st round.

    For me it’s the 4th round .. that second is too important and needs to be as risk free as possible. Feel for the kid for sure but these are big stakes this high in the draft..

  8. texmex says:

    blainer,

    Did anyone watch the American feed of the draft? Something didn’t seem right with him. Maybe he’s just pissed he missed the first round, but he was off for sure

  9. Reja says:

    blainer: After watching his interview on youtube from the combine I’m taking a pass on Kaliyev.

    He’s just a kid some people get nervous in front of a camera. What does not being able to speak smoothly have anything to do with his on ice ability

  10. Reja says:

    BlacqueJacque: I’d take a shot at him, but not with the Oilers culture.This team doesn’t seem to integrate odd players very well – Yakupov being my go-to example.

    It’s unfortunate that he has such a pronounced underbite and he’s clearly a bit awkward socially as a result, but I think a smart team would draft him in the second round, set him up with a psychologist and speech therapist if necessary.He’s clearly not being passed over for hockey reasons, and I feel bad for the kid for falling out of the 1st round.

    Offhand Glenn Anderson was a odd duck he didn’t do to bad if this kid makes it to 38 Holland better run to the podium.

  11. texmex says:

    Reja,

    Nothing. But the combine is where teams get to know the prospects and see how they perform off the ice. The interviews matter right or wring

  12. blainer says:

    texmex:
    blainer,

    Did anyone watch the American feed of the draft? Something didn’t seem right with him. Maybe he’s just pissed he missed the first round, but he was off for sure

    I did see that and felt the same way.

  13. Psyche says:

    Reja,

    I have to agree, adding more bias and ignorance to judge a teenager doesn’t help anyone. I know I didn’t always fit the “norm” at that age. Thank goodness there were no TV cameras filming my reactions or interviewing me.

    It’s probably best to assess and evaluate these teens based on their performance on the ice. That’s ultimately what this is about – isn’t it?

  14. BlacqueJacque says:

    Reja: He’s just a kid some people get nervous in front of a camera. What does not being able to speak smoothly have anything to do with his on ice ability

    I agree there, but hockey players are rather elitist shitheads, for all their polished public mannerisms. Yakupov could never get a fair shake with Hall/Ebs/Nuge, Niinimaa back in the day had some issues early on making friends, Pitkanen got shipped out for the same reason, IIRC there were rumours about Nilsson having a hard go of it as well. The Oilers were not a tolerant, welcoming culture in my time, and from what I’m hearing about this Puljarvi kid, that’s not changing these days either.

  15. BlacqueJacque says:

    texmex:
    blainer,

    Did anyone watch the American feed of the draft? Something didn’t seem right with him. Maybe he’s just pissed he missed the first round, but he was off for sure

    His underbite is quite pronounced and would make anyone look angry to begin with. It’s like jutting your jaw out in anger.

    He also seems to be a rather anxious kid, probably stemming from that underbite and that feeling of being judged all the time. Imagine living your life constantly feeling judged and excluded, you put together a great hockey season in your draft year – we’re talking numbers that normally get #1 overall consideration – and you get passed over by team after team. You’re awkward to begin with and this adds to your anxiety.

  16. blainer says:

    Reja: He’s just a kid some people get nervous in front of a camera. What does not being able to speak smoothly have anything to do with his on ice ability

    I agree people do get nervous in front of the camera. If we thought JP was having trouble in the room I think it will be just as bad with this player.

    He dropped this far for a reason. The guy had 51 goals and 102 points and everyone passed on him in the first round. That is a major red flag for me. I could be wrong and maybe he turns out to make me look like a fool but if it was me making the decision I would take a pass on this player.

  17. texmex says:

    BlacqueJacque: His underbite is quite pronounced and would make anyone look angry to begin with.It’s like jutting your jaw out in anger.

    He also seems to be a rather anxious kid, probably stemming from that underbite and that feeling of being judged all the time.Imagine living your life constantly feeling judged and excluded, you put together a great hockey season in your draft year – we’re talking numbers that normally get #1 overall consideration – and you get passed over by team after team.You’re awkward to begin with and this adds to your anxiety.

    I agree and I’m not judging the kid. I would never do such a thing and I can’t imagine (or even condone) how much pressure these KIDS are under. But first impressions are everything sadly.

  18. blainer says:

    BlacqueJacque: His underbite is quite pronounced and would make anyone look angry to begin with.It’s like jutting your jaw out in anger.

    He also seems to be a rather anxious kid, probably stemming from that underbite and that feeling of being judged all the time.Imagine living your life constantly feeling judged and excluded, you put together a great hockey season in your draft year – we’re talking numbers that normally get #1 overall consideration – and you get passed over by team after team.You’re awkward to begin with and this adds to your anxiety.

    I also agree with this. The draft can be very difficult for the strongest coolest guy’s. I hope he gets picked early in the 2nd round because If he gets drafted by the Oilers I just don’t think it will work out.

    It must be very tough for him to have to go through that today for sure.

  19. Munny says:

    If the Oilers manage to keep them all and the prospects make it… McDavid, Draisaitl, Klefbom, Nuge, Broberg, Nurse, McLeod, Kassian is a pretty elite skating team. Can’t hate where that is going.

  20. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Munny:
    Aho apparently also wants a 5 year term.This is going to be the thing from now on.

    Only for boy genius GMs. Holland simply says McDavid signed for 8. You better than him?

  21. hunter1909 says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    hunter1909,

    I posted that as well but then remembered it was actually Devellano that drafted Lidstrom, so retracted.

    Since when does an Oilers fan have to make statements that hold water?

    : p

  22. hunter1909 says:

    Okay. Draft over. or as good as. Time to go back to the tomb until September/October for the upcoming and all New! and Improved! DeathMarch™ season.

    Have a great summer everyone.

  23. defmn says:

    Munny:
    If the Oilers manage to keep them all and the prospects make it…McDavid, Draisaitl, Klefbom, Broberg, Nurse, McLeod, Kassian is a pretty elite skating team.Can’t hate where that is going.

    No idea if he can do the hockey thing but apparently Nygard can fly as well.

  24. Rondo says:

    Oilers at #38- Brink, Hoglander, Lavoie,Kaliyev, Rees, N. Robertson and Dorofeyev

  25. LookingforKovi says:

    digger50: I believe the Broberg pick was more driven by the Red Wing scouts than the Oiler scouts. Holland was sold on the player before he arrived here. Detroit needed a d man and got one. Edmonton did not.

    I remember walking by Holland and a bunch of Detroit staffers on my way in to one of the Hlinka Gretzky U18 games last summer. Broberg had a heck of a tournament.

    I don’t recall hearing Broberg floated until Holland got here. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this is a pick based off of Detroit intel.

  26. Munny says:

    Flyer’s Assistant GM Brent Flahr on Broberg last week:

    “”Good size, elite skater, played with men all year, so I don’t think he had the best year statistically when you watch him, but he had a real strong April tournament. He has a physical package that’s really intriguing for a lot of teams. He’s an NHL player, for sure. Whether he has the upside offensively as some of the others, maybe not, but he’s going to be a terrific player.”

  27. Munny says:

    Matty on the pick:

    “They may have wanted Fort Saskatchewan’s Kirby Dach more but the six-foot-four centre who plays for Saskatoon Blades surprisingly went to Chicago at No. 3. They were very interested in Whitehorse-born centre Dylan Cozens, a nice human interest story who plays for the Lethbridge Hurricanes, but he went at No. 7 to Buffalo.

    In the end, for the Oilers at No. 8, it came down to U.S. National Development Team centre Trevor Zegras, a fantastic playmaker whom many scouts feel will be a first-line C — he went to Anaheim at No. 9 — or the second-best defenceman in the draft pool, Broberg, after Bowen Byram of the Vancouver Giants went at No. 4 to Colorado.:

  28. Spooky Lynx says:

    My hope is that the Oilers draft Kaliyev, bring Broberg over to Hamilton, and have them play out their junior careers together under the tutelage of Steve Staios before starting their pro careers.

  29. russ99 says:

    My takeaway is this:

    1. Much like when Chiarelli was hired, Holland couldn’t change everything before the draft. He listened to the old scouts. Fire the old scouts, bring in your own people.

    2. With Holland’s history of developing European players vs. ours, I suspect Holland thinks there’s a quality player worth of #8 there and he can have patience and develop him properly where as before we never really did, maybe with Nurse, but even he could have used more AHL time.

    Given #2, the current roster needs, and that we likely could have grabbed Broberg lower, I’m a bit dismayed that he didn’t trade down. Not too dismayed on Zegras, the NCAA to AHL route is risky, and not all the US Dev players may pan out.

  30. Jordan says:

    Players remaining from the Lowetide top 31:

    5 L Arthur Kaliyev, Hamilton (OHL). He scored 51-51-102 in 67 OHL games, age 17. I’ve read about skating, hockey sense and playing on the perimeter. I can’t ignore the math. A June 2001.

    19 R Bobby Brink, Sioux City (USHL). Small, fast and very skilled, he’s an intelligent player with great vision. He could be a bargain.

    24 LD Matthew Robertson, Edmonton (WHL). He’s had some injury issues but has also emerged as a fairly complete defender.

    25 L Nick Robertson, Peterborough (OHL). Undersized skill winger with a sixth sense as a goal scorer. Impressive at Top Prospects.

    26 RC Raphael Lavoie, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). Adam Sherren: “Lavoie is a big physical force who is that old fashioned power forward.” He is a strong skater and has a goal-scorer’s touch. Aggressive, a force.

    27 R Nathan Légaré, Baie Comeau Drakkar (QMJHL). Power winger who can score goals, he can find open ice and cash (45 goals in 68 games) and drives to the net with abandon.

    28 L Egor Afanasyev, Muskegon (USHL). His numbers are outstanding, plus he’s a big forward with a powerful stride and an excellent shot. I like him plenty.

    31 LD Ville Heinola, Lukko (Sm-Liiga). A mature player for his age, two-way talent with good speed and calm feet. Excellent passer.

    HM – 32 LC Blake Murray, Sudbury (OHL). Big center with plus speed and a scoring touch. A July 2001.

    So, there are 6 picks before the Oilers 2nd round selection. If the Oilers can walk away with Broberg and one of these remaining forwards, I think I like this draft a lot. I’m not convinced that the Oilers can develop Kaliyev properly, as teams are leery of him, but he can clearly score. How much longer will he stay undrafted? I will be surprised if he’s still there at 38, and dumbfounded if he’s there after 38.

    The question is does he turn out like Benson, where he makes the scouts look good, or does he turn out like Jesse, where he doesn’t fit and can’t make it on this team?

  31. Reja says:

    BlacqueJacque: I agree there, but hockey players are rather elitist shitheads, for all their polished public mannerisms.Yakupov could never get a fair shake with Hall/Ebs/Nuge, Niinimaa back in the day had some issues early on making friends, Pitkanen got shipped out for the same reason, IIRC there were rumours about Nilsson having a hard go of it as well.The Oilers were not a tolerant, welcoming culture in my time, and from what I’m hearing about this Puljarvi kid, that’s not changing these days either.

    Offhand Grant Fuhr was terrified in front of the cameras. Your judging a kid on a couple of stupid interviews how do you know he wouldn’t fit in all that matters is on ice results you think kurri and Gretzky hung out after games or practice you think if Jesse are yak had any hockey sense that they wouldn’t have been welcomed with open arms they’re making gross money but they’re just kids for heavens sake and with that big money comes huge pressure. Now I really hope they draft this supposedly awkward kid.

  32. dustrock says:

    My take is this: we won’t know for 3 years for sure. If he’s Hedman then Holland will look like a million 5.

    Smells like Smartest Guy in the Room and would have preferred a forward maybe with a slightly lesser ceiling for a player who might maybe make the NHL.

    If not, he’ll look like a reprobate, especially if we track Zegras, Caufield et al.

    How can we not trade up slightly to take Kaliyev or Lavoie then Jesus Murphy.

  33. Reja says:

    russ99:
    My takeaway is this:

    1. Much like when Chiarelli was hired, Holland couldn’t change everything before the draft. He listened to the old scouts. Fire the old scouts, bring in your own people.

    2. With Holland’s history of developing European players vs. ours, I suspect Holland thinks there’s a quality player worth of #8 there and he can have patience and develop him properly where as before we never really did, maybe with Nurse, but even he could have used more AHL time.

    Given #2, the current roster needs, and that we likely could have grabbed Broberg lower, I’m a bit dismayed that he didn’t trade down. Not too dismayed on Zegras, the NCAA to AHL route is risky, and not all the US Dev players may pan out.

    Exactly what D-man have we rushed in the last 15 years.

  34. russ99 says:

    Reja,

    Klefbom, Nurse, Benning, Bouchard (9 game audition) just off the top of my head.

    Would be nice to see D get requisite AHL time and arrive in the NHL closer to a finished product rather than suffer through a first few shaky NHL years, and burn through their ELC.

    That said, Jones is getting close to 100 AHL games, Bear is close, D take longer.

  35. Reja says:

    russ99:
    Reja,

    Klefbom, Nurse, Benning, Bouchard (9 game audition) just off the top of my head.

    Would be nice to see D get requisite AHL time and arrive in the NHL closer to a finished product rather than suffer through a first few shaky NHL years, and burn through their ELC.

    That said, Jones is getting close to 100 AHL games, Bear is close, D take longer.

    3 out 4 above mentioned were top 15 picks I definitely don’t think they were rushed into the NHL Oilers do not rush D-man into the NHL where they slot them in the line-up well that’s a entirely different story. The NHL has gotten young fast you have 4-6 players making half the cap need cheap entry level contracts. I can see why there’s so many injuries and concussions some of these kids are 160 pound boys playing against Backes Chara Lucic etc of the league.

  36. Lowetide says:

    NEW for The Athletic: The heat is on Ken Holland’s Oilers for Day 2 of the NHL Draft

    https://theathletic.com/1041441/2019/06/22/the-heat-is-on-ken-hollands-oilers-for-day-2-of-the-nhl-draft/

  37. ArmchairGM says:

    blainer: After watching his interview on youtube from the combine I’m taking a pass on Kaliyev.

    I’ve watched them too and wouldn’t have taken him in the top-10 as a result. But in the 2nd round? RUN TO THE PODIUM!!

  38. ArmchairGM says:

    Is Jeese enough to get the #32 pick? Maybe add a 4th rounder? If Ken can walk away from round 2 with Kaliyev and Afanasyev I would declare this draft a win, despite being somewhat disappointed with the Broberg selection.

  39. ArmchairGM says:

    HT Joe: Paajarvi –> Perron –> draft pick (Barzal) –> Reinhart –> Las Vegas draft

    If only we’d stopped halfway through.

  40. ArmchairGM says:

    Younger Oil:
    Puljujarvi+2nd rounder+??? to Washington for Bukarovsky+Kaliyev pick would be stellar.

    I would have agreed with you last night. Now it’ll cost a lot less than Puljujarvi to move up to get Kaliyev and Burakovsky might become a UFA who can be acquired for no assets out. I guess patience is sometimes the best route?

  41. Oilertown says:

    After watching some highlights I’m good with the pick, now just hopefully a nice skill fwd drops to us at second pick Tomasino would be nice!

  42. Oilertown says:

    I’d be exstatic with Kaliev for second pick!

  43. Oilertown says:

    Back to the Broberg selection, who is the leak in the organization???

  44. Oilertown says:

    What time draft start?

  45. Todd Macallan says:

    Pretty cool clip on the Oilers Twitter of McDavid welcoming Broberg to the team via text. Huge grin from Broberg.

  46. Death By Misadventure says:

    Oilertown:
    Back to the Broberg selection, who is the leak in the organization???

    I speculate it’s Bob Green.

  47. Death By Misadventure says:

    Oilertown:
    What time draft start?

    1 ET

  48. ArmchairGM says:

    How much does Carolina like Puljujarvi? Enough to give up their two 2nd round picks? Maybe if we throw in #85? That would give us 3 decent forward prospects – say Kaliyev, Lavoie and Afanasyev – to matriculate for the 2021 season.

  49. Todd Macallan says:

    One of Lavoie, Kaliyev, Rees, Brink at 38 would be something.

  50. Professor Q says:

    Holland discussed that Broberg might come over to play for Hamilton.

    If Edmonton does indeed somehow get Kaliyev today, how sweet of a development pairing would that be?

  51. Oilertown says:

    Death By Misadventure,

    Thank you, hmm Green huh? Well it’s a guess, at any rate let’s hope its removed quickly.

  52. OriginalPouzar says:

    Round 2 doesn’t start until 11 – damn

    I take solace in the Broberg pick by the run on dmen in the first round and that there are quite a few high ceiling forwards still on the board.

  53. Pouzar says:

    Jordan,

    Heinola is gone to Jets no?

  54. OriginalPouzar says:

    russ99:
    Reja,

    Klefbom, Nurse, Benning, Bouchard (9 game audition) just off the top of my head.

    Would be nice to see D get requisite AHL time and arrive in the NHL closer to a finished product rather than suffer through a first few shaky NHL years, and burn through their ELC.

    That said, Jones is getting close to 100 AHL games, Bear is close, D take longer.

    Klefbom was developed properly.

    Nurse was developed properly.

    Both these guys were draft plus 3 before seeing the NHL.

    More time in the AHL would not have extended their ELCs.

    Oilers can definitely be faulted for their development of some forwards but they’ve had no issue with rushing dmen despite general lack of depth over the years.

  55. Infidels says:

    Jordan,

    Jordan:
    Players remaining from the Lowetide top 31:

    5 L Arthur Kaliyev, Hamilton (OHL). He scored 51-51-102 in 67 OHL games, age 17. I’ve read about skating, hockey sense and playing on the perimeter. I can’t ignore the math. A June 2001.

    19 R Bobby Brink, Sioux City (USHL). Small, fast and very skilled, he’s an intelligent player with great vision. He could be a bargain.

    24 LD Matthew Robertson, Edmonton (WHL). He’s had some injury issues but has also emerged as a fairly complete defender.

    25 L Nick Robertson, Peterborough (OHL). Undersized skill winger with a sixth sense as a goal scorer. Impressive at Top Prospects.

    26 RC Raphael Lavoie, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). Adam Sherren: “Lavoie is a big physical force who is that old fashioned power forward.” He is a strong skater and has a goal-scorer’s touch. Aggressive, a force.

    27 R Nathan Légaré, Baie Comeau Drakkar (QMJHL). Power winger who can score goals, he can find open ice and cash (45 goals in 68 games) and drives to the net with abandon.

    28 L Egor Afanasyev, Muskegon (USHL). His numbers are outstanding, plus he’s a big forward with a powerful stride and an excellent shot. I like him plenty.

    31 LD Ville Heinola, Lukko (Sm-Liiga). A mature player for his age, two-way talent with good speed and calm feet. Excellent passer.

    HM – 32 LC Blake Murray, Sudbury (OHL). Big center with plus speed and a scoring touch. A July 2001.

    So, there are 6 picks before the Oilers 2nd round selection.If the Oilers can walk away with Broberg and one of these remaining forwards, I think I like this draft a lot.I’m not convinced that the Oilers can develop Kaliyev properly, as teams are leery of him, but he can clearly score.How much longer will he stay undrafted?I will be surprised if he’s still there at 38, and dumbfounded if he’s there after 38.

    The question is does he turn out like Benson, where he makes the scouts look good, or does he turn out like Jesse, where he doesn’t fit and can’t make it on this team?

    If Kaliyev becomes a 30 goal scorer then an NHL team needs to hire LT as a consultant -seriously.

  56. leadfarmer says:

    Professor Q:
    Holland discussed that Broberg might come over to play for Hamilton.

    If Edmonton does indeed somehow get Kaliyev today, how sweet of a development pairing would that be?

    Leave this kid alone.
    Sweden will develop him. Leave him be

  57. Rondo says:

    Oilers at #38

    Brink
    Hoglander
    Lavoie
    Kailiyev
    N. Robertson
    Rees
    Dorofeyev
    Puistola

  58. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Round 2 doesn’t start until 11 – damn

    I take solace in the Broberg pick by the run on dmen in the first round and that there are quite a few high ceiling forwards still on the board.

    Biggest surprise in the First was the run on D. It’ll be interesting to see how these Americans kids do and see who was zooming who. I wanted Zegras after Cozens got picked with the Ducks being in our division it shouldn’t take long to see if Zegras was being aided are if he’s a steal at 9.

  59. Bling says:

    I’d love to see Kaliyev or Lavoie with that second rounder.

    Can we trade somebody and get both?

  60. smellyglove says:

    According to the internet, round two starts at 1:00 pm EST.

    https://www.nhl.com/nhl-draft

  61. rickithebear says:

    We need goal scoring:
    Age based NHLE ranges first graphed by desjardins are critical cause
    a 20 yrs production translation according to desjardins is 32 to 35%
    A draft year players (17) translation is 50 to 75%.
    Sept 16 2000 is 50%
    Sept 15 2001 is 75%
    Not adjusting for age is misleading.
    I have argued since LT lead us to desjardins in 2007.
    You want younger players with high production.

    As Jaxon has discovered in the last 1-2 years.

    Age NHLE
    Kaliyev 41G 41A 82P
    Brink 33G 31A 64P
    N. Robertson 30G 32A 62P
    Beaucage 30G 31A 61P
    B. Murray 32G 21A 53P

    Intensity
    Or
    Size
    Or
    Skating Mechanics ( not power)
    Are the indicated deficiencies.

    Doubt the top 2 are there at 38.

  62. Bling says:

    Not understanding the hate surrounding the Broberg pick.

    Klefbom and Lindholm also had poor offensive totals and are now fine. Larsson did as well and he too has turned into a top pairing D. Those guys are pretty good skaters, but Pronman is saying that Broberg is Hughes level fast.

    There are some questions about hockey sense, but he was 17 all season playing against men.

    I really, really like the pick.

  63. rickithebear says:

    Bromberg can play both sides.
    He says he Plays the side teamate is not comfortable with.
    In a men’s league with NHLE similiar to AHL at 17.

    Turns 18 6 days before new contract year.
    He was 17 July 1 last year.

    Were Other players turns 18 after July 1 so They were 16 July 1 last year.
    Extra year of slide rule.
    10 yr before age 27 season rather than 9 years.

  64. rickithebear says:

    Interesting quarters from Holland & Playfair
    Holland
    -You need to be 21,22,23 to play d in NHL.
    – you need 5 men attacking in this game today. But your d have to be aware of their def responsibility.
    Do not abandon before you attack
    – I like to have a very big defence.
    Playfair
    – I want defence who are aware of their responsibility.
    – more attacking game early in the season.
    – have to give up only 1 GA to win championships.
    – talked with Gullickson we can add some detail & responsibilty early on.

    Fuck Yeah!

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