Wing and a Prayer

by Lowetide

In theory, Peter Chiarelli’s major roster bet (build up the middle, with improved centers, defense and goaltending by trading wings) made sense. His problems came in undervaluing Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle, while employing a large number of hopefuls who simply couldn’t establish themselves.

Chiarelli traded Hall, Eberle and Teddy Purcell, bought out Pouliot, and replaced them with Milan Lucic, Patrick Maroon, Mike Cammalleri and Zack Kassian. He bet on youth, in two cases unready teenagers, and for the most part the youngsters failed him. In theory, the idea made sense. Larsson, Strome, Sekera, Russell, Talbot. In the end, he traded one of his two drivers and the team could not recover.

Ken Holland’s job this summer is to address as many needs as possible, inside an impossibly difficult cap situation. Where will he go for solutions?

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group, here’s an incredible Offer!

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers plan to skew younger on defence could open the door for Evan Bouchard, Dmitri Samorukov
  • New Lowetide: Taking stock of Oilers prospects ready to graduate with a clear shot at an NHL job in 2019-20
  • New Jonathan WillisOilers keep two, cut five, and potentially add new targets as qualifying deadline passes
  • New Lowetide: Oilers top 20 prospects summer 2019.
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Raphael Lavoie’s QMJHL coach is confident the Oilers’ No. 38 pick will prove worth the wait
  • New Jonathan Willis: Having added top KHL stopper Ilya Konovalov, how will the Oilers handle a crowded goalie pipeline?
  • New Daniel Nugent-BowmanKen Holland doesn’t lose sight of the big picture in drafting defenceman Philip Broberg over a forward
  • Lowetide: The heat is on Ken Holland’s Oilers for Day 2 of the NHL Draft.
  • Lowetide: Oilers Draft Day 1: Getting it right at No. 8 overall and multiple trade winds for Ken Holland.
  • Willis and Mirtle: Are the Oilers and Maple Leafs good trading partners?
  • Lowetide: Are these Jesse Puljujarvi’s final days with the Edmonton Oilers?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Analyzing the early Edmonton Oilers’ 2019-20 depth chart.
  • Lowetide: The Oilers’ conundrum in taking Philip Broberg with the No. 8 overall pick
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Ranking the Oilers’ trade assets from the high-priced diamonds to those needing fresh starts
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Evaluating the pros and cons of potential Oilers buyout candidates
  • Lowetide: Oilers GM Ken Holland is shopping for 20-goal scorers on a budget. What will he find?

2015-16 wingers (by 5-on-5 per 60 scoring)

I included Leon Draisaitl, he also played center (Connor McDavid, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Mark Letestu and Anton Lander also played pivot). Oilers scoring wingers ran deep. Hall, Pouliot, Eberle and Purcell (basically counting Leon as a center) would be outstanding for the current Oilers.

2016-17 wingers (by 5-on-5 per 60 scoring)

Both McDavid and Draisaitl were over 2.00/60, but the regular wingers couldn’t manage anything close to 2.00. Part of that was the absence of Hall and I do think we saw some failure in the young group that Chiarelli needed to step up (Slepyshev, Caggiula). I don’t fault Puljujarvi, he was a teenager, but Slepy needed to have more impact. The gap from Hall to Lucic is a knife to the heart.

2017-18 wingers (by 5-on-5 per 60 scoring)

This is tough to look at, what with Mike Cammalleri the second most productive scoring winger. The number four regular winger (Khaira) scored at a rate equal to the number six winger in 2015-16. None of the young skill wingers (Slepyshev, Caggiula, Puljujarvi) were able to push up the depth chart. Edmonton needed Slepy to land where Cammalleri is on this list and to build from there. It didn’t happen.

2018-19 wingers (by 5-on-5 per 60 scoring)

Three men at 1.50/60 or better, and Chiarelli traded one of them. One of the key issues for Ken Holland is to acquire more wingers who can move the needle. I understand Alex Chiasson scored 22 goals last season, but he wasn’t efficient at 5-on-5, nor was Zack Kassian. Folks, even a younger Teddy Purcell would be a massive improvement.

Possible 2018-19 wingers (by 5-on-5 per 60 scoring)

Elliotte Friedman’s 31 Thoughts mentioned Connolly and Tanev, both men would be top-six forwards based on performances a year ago. For Holland, as was the case with Chiarelli, the need is for kids like Puljujarvi, Yamamoto, Benson and Marody to emerge. Holland’s patience may help these players, although this team badly needs young wingers who can score while representing value deals.

Who has the best chance of stepping in? I wrote yesterday at The Athletic about this, and to my eye Tyler Benson has the clearest shot. Left wing is an offensive wasteland behind Leon Draisaitl, with Nygard, Lucic and Khaira the likely competition. Signing Tanev might muddy the waters, but I suspect Tippett will see Benson’s vision and passing in training camp and work to keep him on the big team. Holland could change the equation with trades and in free agency in the coming days.

These two men are not similar in quality. Mrazek’s save percentage last season at even strength (.929) ranked him No. 9 among goalies who played 25 or more games. Smith’s number (.907) was No. 45. Last season, Smith (.922) was stronger at evens than Mrazek (.914). I think Smith might sign at a reasonable rate for one year, with Mrazek possibly seeking a Jonathan Bernier deal. I don’t think this is an easy decision. Money and term have to be considered. If they sign Mike Smith, safe to assume Shane Starrett will see NHL action this coming season. I don’t believe $3 million times three years for Mrazek is wise, perhaps I’m wrong.

THE TRADE BOARD

Frank Seravalli posted a new TSN trade board this morning, Jesse Puljujarvi and Milan Lucic are on it. It is here. The Puljujarvi chatter seems to be reaching something close to a crescendo, although it’s uncertain this will amount to anything. The Tampa Bay Lightning are an interesting option, minor league team (Syracuse Crunch) are loaded with prospects. I’ll take Alex Barre-Boulet, please and thanks.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

TSN1260, 10am. We do a round table discussion twice a year, and today’s first hour will see Bruce McCurdy, Darcy McLeod and Tyler Hupka bring logic and reason to the Oilers current state. We’ll chat about the hiring of Ken Holland and Dave Tippett, the choice to approach this summer in a measured way and what free agency may bring. Frank Seravalli drops by at 11, we’ll talk about the new trade board, free agent destinations and the impact of the new cap on buyouts. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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Andy Dufresne

Alex Barre-Boulet, the kind you find at a second hand store.

Chris

I’d take Mrazek at 3×3. Afterall, we’re looking for a number 1 goalie. Pass on Chiasson, yes to Connelly at 3×3.5. Play the hell out of the kids this year, give them a chance to show what they can do.

Andy Dufresne

Sounds like a great show this morning.

See if you guys can settle on the price and term for Connolly. What you each think hes worth and what you each think he’ll actually come in at including term.

Also, which Oilers defensman from last years starting 6 is not going to be on the roster to to start the season.

Turn UP…….. the RADIO!
I need the Hockey Buzz, Give me some more!

leadfarmer

Mrazek has the potential of being a long term fix
Smith is just teetering at the edge of a cliff
If you get Mrazek at a reasonable contract you do it
If you can’t do it I could put up with smith for 1 year

Andy Dufresne

Lowetide: That is so so good.

Thank you.

even the second hand store part (AHL)

So nice to start the day off with a smile. 🙂

Psyche

Rishaug suggested Valtteri Filppula (C) as a 3rd line centre option for the Oilers. I don’t mind this idea. As always, price point is critical. Filppula earned $2.75 million last season. He would offer a good 2-way presence on the 3rd line. Scored 17 goals last season, but I would expect him in the 10-15 range behind the Oiler centres. I’m certain McDavid, Draisaitl and Nuge would appreciate having a player of his experience and reputation on the team. Also, maybe it gets Puljujarvi to do an about-face seeing a renowned Finnish centre as a potential linemate?

PokeCheck

Is it just me, or is Scott Howson starting to get a tremendous amount of microphone time for the Oilers these days? Was he promoted?

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

I’m OK with Mrazek at 3X$3M. Gives the prospects time to grow in Bakersfield.

I still think the fix here is moving Nurse out. His next contract is gonna kill us. If you send out Nurse, JP, and Russell this summer (not in one transaction), can’t you get a top 4 RHD and a solid winger? Even if you need to throw in a pick. You might take on a bit more cap this year, but Nurse+Russell next year is going to be a 10 or 11 M cap hit. It’s better than buying guys out this summer and having their cap hits for the next few years.

Bulging Twine

Benning’s age makes his buyout rate 1/3 rather than the standard 2/3

His cap hit this year if bought out would be 233,333
cap savings of 1,666,667

next year cap hit 333,333

DBO

So is this both a realistic lineup dollar wise and also a potential playoff team?

Draisatl-McDavid-Brown
Benson-Nuge-Connolly
Nygard-Khaira-Gagner
Tanev-Cave-Kassian
Brodziak-Haas

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse-Faulk
Sekera-Persson/Jones

Koskinen
Smith

Connolly – 4 x $3.75
Tanev – 3 x $1.95
Smith – 1 x $1.75 (I’d rather have Mrazek, but doubtful it fits money wise)
Haas – 2 x $0.975
Benning for Brown
Puljujarvi for Faulk
Russell dealt for mid prospect, $1 million retained

Yep we still need a 3C, but I’m not sure how, unless it’s a mid season deal for prospects (from our D I assume), we can find one on our current budget. Marody has a shot, but more likely next season.
Faulk is off books after the year, opening spot for Bouchard or Bear. if he works out, then great he can be re-signed.

Andy Dufresne

Psyche:
Rishaug suggested Valtteri Filppula (C) as a 3rd line centre option for the Oilers. I don’t mind this idea. As always, price point is critical. Filppula earned $2.75 million last season. He would offer a good 2-way presence on the 3rd line. Scored 17 goals last season, but I would expect him in the 10-15 range behind the Oiler centres. I’m certain McDavid, Draisaitl and Nuge would appreciate having a player of his experience and reputation on the team. Also, maybe it gets Puljujarvi to do an about-face seeing a renowned Finnish centre as a potential linemate?

New management for me is a kind of renewal.

Each new GM brings with him his network, based on his history.

The story starts to unfold in the next 7 days as to what’s new that only Kenny Holland can bring.

Which UFAs does he have a relationship with (Filppula, Mrazek, who else?) . Which GMs is he tight with. What are his trademark techniques in building out a roster. etc etc

We’ve already seen how he runs a draft. Now we get to see him in his wheelhouse. Doing what hes trained himself to do for the last 25 years.

“After his playing career ended, Holland took a job with the Red Wings as a scout in Western Canada. He subsequently served seven years as Director of Amateur Scouting and three as assistant general manager. On July 18, 1997, he was promoted to general manager, executive vice president and alternate governor of the Detroit Red Wings.” Wikipedia

Pouzar

To say Tanev was zoomed by Lowry would be a massive understatement. Buyer Beware.

Cassandra

Those charts are disheartening. Year after year the Oilers got rid of their best players while keeping their worst players.

It couldn’t be more obvious that they were selecting on the wrong variable. Choosing the the imagination of defense and intangibles over skill.

Indeed, since there is no evidence the players they gave away were bad defensive players, you could even say that the used offensive skill as an indicator of poor defense.

It is there in black and white. Every year they shipped out the guys who could score. The craziest part is that they often didn’t even know they were doing it since the evidence was hidden behind playing time and power play opportunity.

Let’s see if they’ve learned anything. If Chiasson is on the team next year they haven’t. 5v5 pts/60 is the number. Everything else is context.

Professor Q

Andy Dufresne:
Alex Barre-Boulet, the kind you find at a second hand store.

And where it is warm, they wouldn’t play much more…

I am off my game lately, and apologize to you all.

dustrock

Andy Dufresne:
Alex Barre-Boulet, the kind you find at a second hand store.

ha ha very well done

OriginalPouzar

I like Jordan Eberle and would like him on the team.

With that said, I’m not positive we can say he was undervalued or that Chiarelli lost that trade.

Eberle hasn’t been great on the Island Production wise.

Who would be better/more valuable as an Oiler now? Strome as $3M or Eberle at $5.5M?

What about over the years with Eberle at $6M?

Yaya – cap space spent on Russell…..

dustrock

Pouzar:
To say Tanev was zoomed by Lowry would be a massive understatement. Buyer Beware.

Some team is going to regret the contract they give Tanev, hopefully Vancouver.

I’d love a drill down on Mrazek’s numbers, but off the top of my head, I think he’s got enough built-in reliability at this point in his career I wouldn’t mind a 3 year deal.

Andy Dufresne

Professor Q: And where it is warm, they wouldn’t play much more…

I am off my game lately, and apologize to you all.

Its early! Grab a coffee and let’s get warmed up.

Ready,

CHEESE!

Go.

🙂

Glovjuice

Andy Dufresne:
Sounds like a great show this morning.

See if you guys can settle on the price and term for Connolly. What you each think hes worth and what you each think he’ll actually come in at including term.

Also, which Oilers defensman from last years starting 6 is not going to be on the roster to to start the season.

Turn UP…….. the RADIO!
I need the Hockey Buzz, Give me some more!

Autograph; Killer reference as I crack a Philips Raspberry ale in Calgary prior to one pre-checkout swim before heading back to the Park as we ease into the final days of VAC 1 this summer. Calgary Zoo is cool. Oh yeah, Zoo’s are crap. But, hair metal has plenty of killer songs over the years. I have many hair metal mix tapes from back in the day.

Bruce McCurdy

It’s a bit late in the day to learn of the “logic & reason” expectation, dontcha think?

Wolfpack

Someone is going to overpay on both dollar and term for Connolly. He played almost exclusively on the third line last year.

I think the Oilers really need to improve their bottom six with a two-way player who can PK. Those are the types that Tippet has always seemed to squeeze the most out of, and there are not a lot of candidates on the current roster. Be great if that player could line up at centre.

Benson – I am cheering hard for him but he hit his points in the AHL with tons of assists – we need someone to put the puck in the net. Just not sure who he passes to in the NHL.

bwar

The Oiler’s are signing someone on July 1. I don’t think we are going to end up seeing fixes in more than one area of need. My guess is we see a few veteran signed and one of the rumored players (Connolly, Mrazek). I’m not expecting us to totally revamp the roster and I feel like Holland needs to wait and see what happens with other teams before being able to pull off any real trades.

It’s a bit disheartening seeing how ridiculous some of the trades the past week have been. Subban for pennies on the dollar. Massive overpay for JT Miller. Vegas tricking Carolina on the Haula trade. We are seeing Chiarelli’s influence on the rest of the leagues GM’s…

Andy Dufresne

Wolfpack: I think the Oilers really need to improve their bottom six with a two-way player who can PK. Those are the types that Tippet has always seemed to squeeze the most out of, and there are not a lot of candidates on the current roster. Be great if that player could line up at centre.

You are not alone. This is exactly the point Craig Simpson made yesterday.

OriginalPouzar

PokeCheck:
Is it just me, or is Scott Howson starting to get a tremendous amount of microphone time for the Oilers these days? Was he promoted?

It’s development camp and he’s the director of player development currently.

HT Joe

OriginalPouzar: Who would be better/more valuable as an Oiler now? Strome as $3M or Eberle at $5.5M?

Having both right about now would be a good thing. 🙂

*EDIT* obviously we’ll never know, but it would have been nice if Strome had been given a legitimate opportunity to play with skill for extended durations as a winger. OR it would have been nice to see Strome and Jesse glued to eachother on a productive third line. Both weird coaching decisions (from my perspective looking in).

bwar

Wolfpack,

Not sure I’d classify any of Benson’s AHL linemates as snipers and they still managed to put up nice numbers. Currie did the bulk of the scoring with 27G in 53gp, not bad but I don’t think any of us are classifying Currie as a high end scoring winger. He may not need a trigger man at the NHL level but might find success just playing with other skilled players. I’d be pegging him to RNH’s hip all training camp to try and find out if there is some chemistry there.

bwar

Has there but any news on Evan Polei? I really hope he’s back with the Condors this year.

Durag

All else being close to equal, I would err on the side of shorter term on a goalie this summer. 3 years for Mrazek strikes me as a long term commitment to a goaltending platoon, which never seems like the recipe for a contender, and probably means cutting loose at least 2 of the current goalie prospects as they search for playing time.

I prefer Mrazek to Smith, but I’d take 1 year of Smith over 3 of Mrazek.

Pouzar:
To say Tanev was zoomed by Lowry would be a massive understatement. Buyer Beware.

Rishaug made a very good point on the radio yesterday – what does Tanev do that Caggiula doesn’t? Sigghhhhhh

Andy Dufresne

bwar: It’s a bit disheartening seeing how ridiculous some of the trades the past week have been. Subban for pennies on the dollar. Massive overpay for JT Miller. Vegas tricking Carolina on the Haula trade. We are seeing Chiarelli’s influence on the rest of the leagues GM’s…

Its all “learning material” for me. A kind intellegence garthering on market conditions.

For those who still wonder about (some past trades) trades that involve cap space, the Subban move to me brings this home is spades. Best example ever of the value of cap space. David Poile is no fool. This trade helps clarify / monetize / peg the value of Cap Space.

OriginalPouzar

Samorukov has a wrist injury. He’s skating but prob no puck drills this week. Has had an MRI

Safin deal with a shoulder. He hurt it at the Memorial Cup – geez, how many injuries for this guy? It’s becoming a thing. Should be fine for main camp.

They are being cautious with Maksimov at camp due to his torn PCL earlier in the year.

Info Credit McCurdy via Nugent Bowman

Ryan

jp: What Armchair said. There’s an argument that Lucic isn’t actually below replacement level, or at least not by much.

Also, exploring largely lateral trades (Lucic for Eriksson for instance) has the potential to shift that money to a clearly above replacement level player.

And most importantly, the potential of compliance buyouts offers the possibility to completely remove the last 2 years of Lucic’s deal from the ledger. A buyout now will cost the Oilers:
21-22 $4.125M
22-23 $5.625M
23-24 $625k
24-25 $625k
25-26 $625k
26-27 $625k

IF there are compliance buyouts are part of the CBA negotiation, those numbers go to zero. That’s a huge deal, and for me outweighs the marginal benefit of having Lucic off the roster for now.

There are other factors that you have not considered in terms of the cost of having Lucic in the lineup.

1. Ryan Strome says “hello.” We used Lucic’s black hole of offense to completely devalue Strome’s trade value…

2. Lucic’s production has declined over the past three years and will likely continue to decline. He was batting below the Mendoza line last season, this upcoming season could be worse.

3. As bad as his 5v5 per 60 was last year, He played 94 min with Draisatl, 205 with Nuge, and 75 with McDavid. So in that sense, you can’t compare his production with another player who only played with other 4rth liners.

jtblack

If the Oilers sign Chiasson I will be dissapointed His numbers after Dec.1st were poor. His boots are painfully slow.

Mike Smith? would be dissapointed as well. He is a capable NHL back up which might represent progress, but given injury and recent SV% history I suggest we steer clear.
LETS GO OILERS

Andy Dufresne

Glovjuice: Autograph; Killer reference as I crack a Philips Raspberry ale in Calgary prior to one pre-checkout swim before heading back to the Park as we ease into the final days of VAC 1 this summer. Calgary Zoo is cool. Oh yeah, Zoo’s are crap. But, hair metal has plenty of killer songs over the years. I have many hair metal mix tapes from back in the day.

Bumped into a guy at the used record store a few weeks ago. He had a list of what he already owns and he was there to fill out his already lengthy list, only buying metal vinyl and CDs. His purchase stack was at least quantity 25. I didnt realize there was that much metal out there!

What did you enjoy most about the Calgary Zoo. Ive been meaning to check it out.

Pouzar

Durag: Rishaug made a very good point on the radio yesterday – what does Tanev do that Caggiula doesn’t? Sigghhhhhh

Pretty good comparable at quick glance. Glad neither of these players are on the Oilers.

Durag

Pouzar,

I’m not saying Drake is a world beater, but he would probably be the best natural winger on the team right now, signed for 1 more year at $1.5. Now we have to go out and replace that roster spot for way more money and term.

Funny how much easier it would be to fix this roster if we had Caggiula and Strome.

ArmchairGM

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR: I still think the fix here is moving Nurse out. His next contract is gonna kill us.

His next contract will NOT kill us. There will be plenty of cap space for Nurse next summer.

Get good players, keep good players.

ArmchairGM

Bulging Twine:
Benning’s age makes his buyout rate 1/3 rather than the standard 2/3

His cap hit this year if bought out would be 233,333
cap savings of 1,666,667

next year cap hit 333,333

Benning is just 25 and is our 2nd best RD. We’ve been looking for a 2RD forever and you want to buyout the guy who plays best at that position without having a replacement in hand??

HT Joe

Durag: Funny how much easier it would be to fix this roster if we had Caggiula and Strome.

And if the Oilers didn’t have Manning still?

Pouzar

Durag:
Pouzar,

I’m not saying Drake is a world beater, but he would probably be the best natural winger on the team right now, signed for 1 more year at $1.5. Now we have to go out and replace that roster spot for way more money and term.

Funny how much easier it would be to fix this roster if we had Caggiula and Strome.

I am the worst guy to talk ‘Caggiula’ with. I thought he was dreadful.
His 3 years of GF%Rel in EDM were -3.66, -11.33, -7.18 respectively.

Professor Q

Yes, indeed. I think we all get that Chia screwed us over in his death throes.

Holland save us. Please!

ArmchairGM

DBO:
So is this both a realistic lineup dollar wise and also a potential playoff team?

Draisatl-McDavid-Brown
Benson-Nuge-Connolly
Nygard-Khaira-Gagner
Tanev-Cave-Kassian
Brodziak-Haas

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse-Faulk
Sekera-Persson/Jones

Koskinen
Smith

Connolly – 4 x $3.75
Tanev – 3 x $1.95
Smith – 1 x $1.75 (I’d rather have Mrazek, but doubtful itfits money wise)
Haas – 2 x $0.975
Benning for Brown
Puljujarvi for Faulk
Russell dealt for mid prospect, $1 million retained

Yep we still need a 3C, but I’m not sure how, unless it’s a mid season deal for prospects (from our D I assume), we can find one on our current budget. Marody has a shot, but more likely next season.
Faulk is off books after the year, opening spot for Bouchard or Bear. if he works out, then great he can be re-signed.

Puljujarvi doesn’t get you Faulk, Benning-for-Brown is a Chiarelli-type deal, and what did you do with Lucic?

McNuge93

jtblack:
If the Oilers sign Chiasson I will be dissapointed His numbers after Dec.1st were poor. His boots are painfully slow.

Mike Smith? would be dissapointed as well. He is a capable NHL back up which might represent progress, but given injury and recent SV%history I suggest we steer clear.
LETS GO OILERS

Agree on both counts. Would prefer a younger option in goal. I think we are going to need someone to give 30 or 40 decent games.

Man that Benson picture…he looks 30 years old.

And no way to a Nurse trade. We will regret it. I know we may need to pay up some next year but that’s when you dump Russell and bring in some young guys.i.e. Bear, Bouchard, Jones.

Before we consider a trade of Nurse find him a decent complementary partner and see what he can do.

Durag

HT Joe: And if the Oilers didn’t have Manning still?

And Gagner

ArmchairGM

Pouzar:
To say Tanev was zoomed by Lowry would be a massive understatement. Buyer Beware.

Agree. A 1 year term and not much money I’m okay with, but that’s it.

Psyche

Here’s a fun highlight video of Valtteri Filppula from this past season with the Isles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dflCQ_p9nHo

Reminds me a bit of Nuge.

Holland has a history of bringing in older players. Filppula was drafted by the Wings in 2002 and played for the organization from 2005-2013. Interesting that he has not played for a Western Conference team (nor a Canadian team).

godot10

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR:
I’m OK with Mrazek at 3X$3M.Gives the prospects time to grow in Bakersfield.

I still think the fix here is moving Nurse out.His next contract is gonna kill us.If you send out Nurse, JP, and Russell this summer (not in one transaction), can’t you get a top 4 RHD and a solid winger?Even if you need to throw in a pick.You might take on a bit more cap this year, but Nurse+Russell next year is going to be a 10 or 11 M cap hit.It’s better than buying guys out this summer and having their cap hits for the next few years.

The absolute third worst thing the Oilers could do (player wise) is to send out or trade Nurse. This is a bad idea. I wish people would stop suggesting it.

godot10

Bulging Twine:
Benning’s age makes his buyout rate 1/3 rather than the standard 2/3

His cap hit this year if bought out would be 233,333
cap savings of 1,666,667

next year cap hit 333,333

You should be able to give Benning away. He is a 3rd pairing RD. Right shot D are scarce.

LadiesloveSmid

Just insane how much dead cap EDM is carrying around.

$1.6M for buyouts
$6M for Lucic
$4M for Russell
$2.3M for Manning
$3M for Gagner

Chiarelli is a mastermind

Andy Dufresne

jtblack:
If the Oilers sign Chiasson I will be dissapointed His numbers after Dec.1st were poor. His boots are painfully slow.

Mike Smith? would be dissapointed as well. He is a capable NHL back up which might represent progress, but given injury and recent SV%history I suggest we steer clear.
LETS GO OILERS

I understand your logic. And most would say the numbers support you reasoning.

But I like Chaissons game. The guy can shoot. He can find the open spaces. He can play up the lineup. Word from a Washignton Capitals analyst is that the Caps may be looking at him again.

But what I care the most about is STOP GIVING GUYS AWAY UNTIL YOUVE FOUND A BETTER REPLACEMENT!

Is there a guy on the Oilers roster at less than $1.5m that you have any confidence can out-score Chaisson???

I completely agree with Woodguy (and you) regarding Aim Higher. But this guy is currenlty an Ace in Hole for us. He’s cost effective, he produces, he loves playing in Edmonton, he’s a great teammate, hes a smart guy, and from what I can tell hes well thought of in the dressing room ( as he was in Washington, hence their interest in maybe having him back) Theres 5 guy on the roster Id dump before Id dump Chaisson.

So sign Connolly, sign Donskoi, etc and let them prove they can displace Chaisson. Chaisson is kinda like Patty Maroon light. We’ve trotted 15 guys through the org in the last several years looking for scoring and none of them have worked out to the level Chaisson has.

Chaisson at 1 year x $1.5 is value. ON THIS ROSTER.

Thats the other competive advantage of our situation WE HAVE HUGE HOLES on both wings.

Its the reason a 3rd liner like Connolly has more value to our team thatn he does to other more balanced teams/rosters. Same principle applies to Chaisson, to a lesser extent. IMO

Aberg, Reider, Caggulia, Rattie,Desharnais, Slepyshev, Lander, Pakarinin, Malone, etc etc. None of these guys could piss a drop.

Get rid of Chaisson? Sure. But only once youve filled in the holes we have on wing. IMO