NO SPARE PARTS

Edmonton Oilers fans are antsy now, an extremely active trade and free-agent market Saturday night having passed with no transactions from the town team.

Here is the reality: Failing a major shift (Nurse suddenly available, fracture between Hall and New Jersey) the next few days are going to be about the players we’ve discussed: Brett Connolly, Petr Mrazek, Brian Boyle, et cetera. There is value there and those men represent quality within the narrow confines of Edmonton’s budget. Phil Kessel was never coming here, and the price point (Nuge?) would have been severe enough to ruin your Canada Day weekend.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group, here’s an incredible Offer!

  • New Lowetide: Oilers buy out Andrej Sekera, look to a more dynamic free-agent frenzy.
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘He comes as advertised’: Philip Broberg’s skating makes him development camp standout for Oilers
  • New Jonathan Willis: Oilers have a tough decision to make as the NHL buyout deadline looms
  • Lowetide: Analyzing the free agent options Ken Holland may consider as he builds a bridge to the future
  • Jonathan Willis: Brett Connolly could be a good fit for the Oilers at a reasonable price-point.
  • Jonathan Willis: Five free-agent goalie options who might make sense for the Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: What we learned about the future of NHL at the 2019 Draft
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers plan to skew younger on defence could open the door for Evan Bouchard, Dmitri Samorukov
  • Lowetide: Taking stock of Oilers prospects ready to graduate with a clear shot at an NHL job in 2019-20
  • Jonathan WillisOilers keep two, cut five, and potentially add new targets as qualifying deadline passes
  • Lowetide: Oilers top 20 prospects summer 2019.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Raphael Lavoie’s QMJHL coach is confident the Oilers’ No. 38 pick will prove worth the wait
  • Jonathan Willis: Having added top KHL stopper Ilya Konovalov, how will the Oilers handle a crowded goalie pipeline?
  • Daniel Nugent-BowmanKen Holland doesn’t lose sight of the big picture in drafting defenceman Philip Broberg over a forward
  • Lowetide: The heat is on Ken Holland’s Oilers for Day 2 of the NHL Draft.
  • Lowetide: Oilers Draft Day 1: Getting it right at No. 8 overall and multiple trade winds for Ken Holland.
  • Willis and Mirtle: Are the Oilers and Maple Leafs good trading partners?
  • Lowetide: Are these Jesse Puljujarvi’s final days with the Edmonton Oilers?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Analyzing the early Edmonton Oilers’ 2019-20 depth chart.
  • Lowetide: The Oilers’ conundrum in taking Philip Broberg with the No. 8 overall pick
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Ranking the Oilers’ trade assets from the high-priced diamonds to those needing fresh starts
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Evaluating the pros and cons of potential Oilers buyout candidates
  • Lowetide: Oilers GM Ken Holland is shopping for 20-goal scorers on a budget. What will he find?

TODAY AND TOMORROW

Ken Holland should be represented by the country classic “A Worried Mind” today because there’s a very narrow road to success and several balls to juggle at once. If he can nail the landing on free agency, Edmonton will have Brett Connolly, Petr Mrazek and Valteri Filppula. That’s a really good haul, depending on price point.

In order for us to carry on a rational conversation, we have to agree on some things. For instance, trading Nikita Zaitsev for Cody Ceci is not a trade to get upset about unless you cheer for Toronto or Ottawa. Fair?

Okay, here’s a reasonable expectation for the Oilers during free agency, and let’s be real some of these moves happen mid-July or later.

Goal: Mikko Koskinen, PETR MRAZEK

Left Defense: Oscar Klefbom, Darnell Nurse, Andrej Sekera, Brandon Manning

Right Defense: Adam Larsson, Kris Russell, Matt Benning

Center: Connor McDavid, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, BRIAN BOYLE, Colby Cave, Kyle Brodziak

Left Wing: Leon Draisaitl, DANIEL CARR, Jujhar Khaira, Milan Lucic

Right Wing: BRETT CONNOLLY, Zack Kassian, Joakim Nygard, Sam Gagner, Josh Currie.

BUYOUT SUNDAY

Will it happen? If we use Andrej Sekera as the example, and ask Caleb Jones to replace him, Holland would have $2,280,000 new free-agent dollars. Matt Cane’s free agent list suggests Edmonton could buy Tyler Ennis, Val Filppula, Brian Boyle, Noel Acciari, Brandon Pirri, Ryan Carpenter. Are those names worth the pain of buyout punishment? The only opinion that matters is Holland’s and we wait.

FIXING A HOLE

If you’re still in shock re: How many free agents Edmonton isn’t talking to, allow me to introduce you to a novel idea. Ken Holland isn’t going to solve all of the roster problems in free agency, but he’s also avoiding an albatross contract for the next seven years. His job over the new couple of weeks is to find competition for roster spots.

Brett Connolly, should he sign with Edmonton, will become one of the top three options on right wing. Connolly, Zack Kassian and Sam Gagner would represent the veteran group holding on to a valuable roster spot (top-9 forward). Joakim Nygard, Jesse Puljujarvi (hopefully), Kailer Yamamoto and possibly Cooper Marody will be pushing. That’s the deal.

Daniel Carr, should he sign, would join Nygard, Tyler Benson and Joe Gambardella as possible options should Draisaitl, Lucic and Khaira falter.

Brian Boyle is there because Kyle Brodziak had a difficult season, Colby Cave may not be fast enough and Ryan McLeod is too far away.

Ken Holland, it seems to me, is making Connolly and another goaltender a priority. He might have to buy out someone to add Boyle.

I think the prospects we should be paying most attention to in training camp are Tyler Benson, Cooper Marody, Kailer Yamamoto, Evan Bouchard, Caleb Jones, Joel Persson. Joe Gambardella, Josh Currie and Patrick Russell are also in photo.

CODY CECI

Toronto trading for Cody Ceci is fascinating, one of the truly unusual transactions I’ve seen in some time. Kyle Dubas does smart things, not all of the time, but very often. Why did he value Ceci? I do know the Oilers valued him in the past, and wonder if there’s another trade coming.

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  1. leadfarmer says:

    texmex:
    $3.5m x 4 for Connolly in Miami.

    Wow I was expecting some Gm to go crazy after him.
    I wonder where we left negotiations with him

  2. godot10 says:

    Rube Foster: Indeed!

    Letting the days go by.
    Letting the days go by.

    Water dissolving and water removing
    There is water at the bottom of the ocean
    Under the water, carry the water
    Remove the water from the bottom of the ocean
    Water dissolving and water removing
    Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
    Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
    Into the blue again, into the silent water
    Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground

  3. Harpers Hair says:

    Pavelski to Dallas. 3×7

  4. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Pouzar:
    Jim needs to hang em up. My Gawd.

    Maybe stuffer told him

  5. Gerta Rauss says:

    godot10: I was sort of waiting for the July 1st dust to clear.

    But I still would be probing Tampa for Palat or Johnson or Gourde or even Killorn, and hope one of them would be willing to waive their NTC’s.

    Puljujarvi (or Yamamoto) plus something for a Tampa forward.

    Thoughts on Jason Zucker ..?…I don’t know much about this player

  6. leadfarmer says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Good 2 way forward. Poor mans Stone. Number watchers will point out that he doesn’t put up big points but he plays on an offensively challenged team. The ice tilts in a good direction with him on the ice
    And most importantly he is likely available

  7. Gerta Rauss says:

    leadfarmer,

    thanks- I’ve heard his name out there, and MIN is a little nuts at the moment *coughNinocough*

    That’s the kind of deal you could put a bunch of shiny things in the offer and maybe offload a contract ie:Manning at the same time

    *edit-and that 33 goal season ain’t chopped liver

  8. godot10 says:

    Gerta Rauss: Thoughts on Jason Zucker ..?…I don’t know much about this player

    Zucker isn’t a forced cap casualty. They were looking for real players for him. I don’t know if the Oilers have assets to trade.

    Are they interested in Puljujarvi and Khaira?

  9. Reja says:

    Rondo:
    Reja,

    They lost 1st rd.

    Yea because they are weak. Their defence is overrated and I would take our Goaltending tandem over there’s this coming season.

  10. BlacqueJacque says:

    Pouzar:
    Jim needs to hang em up. My Gawd.

    It’s sad.

    His tweets are so bad he’s become a running joke on Reddit.

  11. Fiveinatrailer says:

    What’s out there for decent d ufas now?
    Sekera at 2m 😃

  12. Gerta Rauss says:

    godot10: Zucker isn’t a forced cap casualty.They were looking for real players for him.I don’t know if the Oilers have assets to trade.

    Are they interested in Puljujarvi and Khaira?

    I don’t know

    I’m just working off the “Fenton is Arthur Carlson” premise

    Zucker’s name has been out there for weeks…his name was prominent in the aborted Kessel deal

  13. DBO says:

    Holland likes his vets. Smith. Risk, but we need to remember. People Actually have to want to come here, and let’s be honest, the Oilers arent exactly an attractive option for most. Especially with all of us going batshit angry constantly if we disagree. Pump the brakes people. Wait till Wednesday to run Holland out of town. See what else he does first.

    Stralman, 2 years 4.0 mill per is a guess. 2 RD, can play in all areas and be a good partner for Nurse, also allowing Russell to play 3 LD. And bridges gap till Bouchard is ready.

    I’d like Hartman on a show me deal. He is gritty, can play with skill and is young enough to be with the team for a few years. A reider esque move, hopefully panning out.

    Maybe Tanev as well, around $2 mill per. Overpay probably, but speed, grit, good PK. Him and Hartman help our bottom 6.

    Need 3 C and a top 6 winger. Probably a trade so let’s see what happens.

  14. OriginalPouzar says:

    Munny: Kurt Leavins‏ @KurtLeavins · 7h7 hours ago

    People I trust who watched Andrej Sekera “every day” told me how the player had lost more than just a step. His mobility had been significantly compromised. Quality guy, injuries are a bitch.

    and Kurt Leavins also told me that Sekera would 100% wouldn’t be back last year and very well may never play again. He also told me that he expected Gravel re-signed very shortly back in May, from his sources……

  15. OriginalPouzar says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Reja,

    Pretty sure he was saying there isn’t much precedent for the team rushing the development of defensemen.Still, Justin Schultz says hello.

    Shultz wasn’t rushed to the NHL – he was 100% an NHL player – he was “rushed” within the lineup to the top pairing but that’s not what is being talked about – its about rushing players to the NHL.

  16. rickithebear says:

    Lead farmer:

    Can you at least Accept one differentiation.
    Generating points on out maned opposition PP avg 7.35 PPG/60
    Is different than Generating points at even 2.35 EVG/60

    It takes 3 times as many PPG before +ve goal differential is reached.
    So PPG have 1/3 the value of even goals.

    SHG are so rare I just give them a value of 1 when common sense says that it is likely 3+ times even.

    So when talking D points generating +ve goal dif.
    Even & SH pts has a value of 1X points
    PP pts has a value of 1/3X

    Were the real special team advantage is the + ve goal diff affect from PK play of dmen were it is 6 times harder than PP.

    We pay less cap for PK play that is 6 times harder than PP points.

    I allways advocate getting the top PK forwards & PK Dmen.

    I equate PP pts to their the basic +ve goal diff potential
    Sekera
    18-19 24gm 3ev/shp = 3, 1 ppp = .333, 3.333 even pts total
    17-18 36gm 6 ev/shp, 2 ppp = .666, 6.666 even pt total
    16-17 80gm 24 ev/shp, 11ppp = 3.666, 27.666 even pt total
    Sekera Russel was a top 10 expected save% Dpair while facing an 2nd comp average.
    15-16 81gm 16 ev/shp, 14 ppp = 4.666, 20.666 even pt total

    Larsson
    18/19 82gp 20 ev/shp, 0 ppp, 20 evp total
    17/18 63 gp 13 ev/shp, 0 ppp, 13 evp total
    16/17 79gp 19 ev/ shp, 0 ppp, 19 evp total
    15/16 82 gp 18 ev/shp, 0 ppp, 18 Evp total

    I consider missing games a performance issue.

    The part that bothers me the most is the huge cap pay for a seasons elite PP numbers which have 1/3 the goal diff value for the easiest part of the game.

    So I want PP time directed at our best Fwds & D.

    Nurse
    18-19 82gm 32 ev/shp, 9 ppp = 3, 35 evp total
    17-18 82gm 26 ev/ shp, 0 ppp, 26 evp total
    With a little def zone responsibilty tuning.

    We end up with a Colin Miller rover.
    The only rover I like.y

  17. OriginalPouzar says:

    frjohnk: Oilers could have used something like 5 amnesty buyouts today and thats not including Sekera.

    Manning
    Gagner
    Lucic
    Koskinen
    Russell

    Ganger is useful for having that player that bloggers cant spell his name properly.

    I am far from a spelling police guy but am curious if this was intentional.

  18. texmex says:

    Perry to Dallas. 1 x $1.5 with bonuses

  19. ashley says:

    Rube Foster: You asked…

    As an aside, a related concern that I have for Bouchard is that this town has a way of eating its own when it comes to young, skilled, offensive defensemen. Tom Poti, Jeff Petry and Justin Schultz delivered better on ice results than Milan Lucic has for the past two years. Yet, Lucic gets lots of rope from the fans and even his biggest detractors cheer for his nominal successes. I don’t know why this is, but there is a history in Edmonton of the fans turning on young, skilled, offensive Defemseman and making their lives miserable.

    I wouldn’t have put Petry in there as a dman that was run out of town. I think the team had problem coming to terms with him and decided to trade him instead? But it seemed to me he was well liked by the fans.

    The problem for offensive Dmen in this town is that the fanbase is knowledgeable in a saw him good/bad kind of way. They watch the game and astutely identify dmen that are not very good at defending. It’s a reasonable concern. It doesn’t matter how many points a dman gets if he can’t defend.

    Sometimes it’s a matter of having the right partner. For example, I think Larsson has saved Klefbom from this criticism so far. Unpair them for a season, and look out Klefbom.

    The best advice someone could give Bouchard, if we are worried about him, is learn how to defend at this level. The fanbase will give some leash to a rookie, but if it’s year three and he is still missing his mark, turning off his brain for a shift, or skating out to the boards/behind the net to help the puck battle 1v2 with a trailer coming down main street, then he’s going to get the same treatment. Regardless of how many goals he scores or how terrific his passes are.

  20. Gerta Rauss says:

    texmex:
    Perry to Dallas.1 x $1.5 with bonuses

    oh thank God

    this is the best news today

  21. OriginalPouzar says:

    digger50: I do not disagree

    I will point out however that when the Oil were identifying thier first round target in Bouchard, getting the closest NHL ready defenceman was part of the assessment. This was stated.

    I think Bouchard has as good a chance as any of the prospects of breaking camp.

    Ken Holland was GM of the Detroit Red Wings when the Oilers management team had that assesment.

    Ken Holland has specifically mentioned Bouchard when giving examples of players that need to be seasoned in the AHL prior to the NHL.

    With Jones and Lagesson both NHL ready (with just needing to prove it), I don’t imagine we see Evan.

    I think Holland has been around long enough, Tippett too, to know that the 7 points in 6 exhibition games Bouchard will get mean zip with respect to NHL readiness.

  22. Harpers Hair says:

    Corey Perry signing in Dallas. 1 year at $1.5 million.

  23. OriginalPouzar says:

    McSorley33:
    So we couldn’t trade Sekera,…..

    Are there people that still think Lucic can be traded?

    37 year old Mike Smith.

    Just need to sign Brian Boyle – who will turn 35 in December- and Kenny Holland will
    have really distanced himself from PC.

    Oh wait.

    Sekera had full trade protection until tomorrow after the buyout window ended.

  24. OriginalPouzar says:

    ashley:
    Sekara wasn’t that good before his injuries.

    It’s odd.Why do some players end up so highly praised despite mediocre results?He had problems keeping the puck out of the net.He was prone to rookie gaffe’s nightly.We had an excuse for him every year, but sooner or later, the player is what he is.

    But he could skate really fast.That is popular.Also his speed made him valuable at 3v3 and with a backdoor cut on the power play.

    I find this very odd as I believe, he was very good, rarely made rookie mistakes and skating fast was never one of his attributes – he was a fine skater but nothing special.

  25. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja: skate re

    Nice post but full of being wrong.

  26. Psyche says:

    Dallas is getting older today, Pavelski and Perry. Is the NHL getting slower or have some of the GM’s been watching different games than I have? I love both those players, but these moves can be double edged swords. Sooner or later age catches up to us all.

    Mr. Holland’s Opus better have some zing tomorrow!

  27. Reja says:

    Smith is Tippett buddy probably that and to stick a fork in cow shit town ass is definitely the reason he signed. Smith been in the NHL a long time I’m sure he’ll mentor Kosh and take the unnecessary heat of him because he signed a contract we all would have:

  28. OriginalPouzar says:

    Munny:
    Jim Matheson‏ @NHLbyMatty · 3m3 minutes ago


    I’m thinking Oilers do not want to sign any free-agents unless they can get Nyqvist to more than 3 years.

    Why would they want more term than less?

    Nyquist at 3 years or less would be fantastic – at four or more and I l walk.

  29. texmex says:

    Talbot 1 x $2.75m to the flames

  30. OriginalPouzar says:

    leadfarmer: I’m going to laugh if we bought out Sekera and not used the cap

    Having a few million of cap space would be an amazing thing.

    If the goalies hold and they are in the hunt – if they are accruing throughout the year and banking, they could make a big splash in season.

    Also, lets not forget, when players get banged up and go on IR and what not, their cap hits still apply plus their replacement on the roster.

    Having room under the cap is important.

  31. OriginalPouzar says:

    Buying out Sekera is silly on its own but at least we get to see a Jones or Lagesson take that next step (hopefully).

    Using the money on bad cap and term would make the silly move really egregious – I’d rather hold on to cap space then sign Nyquist to 4 plus or Connolly to $4M X 4 or Perry to multi-years or Mrazek to 5 years, etc.

  32. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Smith?? Really??
    He and Reimer were The worst choice of the bunch.

  33. BlacqueJacque says:

    OK so the Oilers buy out Sekera, but they don’t seem to have any plans for the cap space.

    Smith is coming in cheap.

    Out on Connolly. Never in on any of the premium FAs like Duchene, Panera or Bobo. Not even rumoured for guys like Stralman, Gardiner, Lee. So… we just cleared a roster spot for Jones? :/

  34. Ben says:

    Gerta Rauss: oh thank God

    this is the best news today

    Preach.

    If they do something like Nyquist at 3 years and Brassard on a show-me tomorrow I’ll choke down some of my Smith bile.

  35. Munny says:

    Gerta Rauss: oh thank God

    this is the best news today

    Bullet dodged.

  36. Munny says:

    Aaron Portzline‏Verified account @Aportzline · 6m6 minutes ago

    The Blue Jackets have made a massive, late-night offer in an attempt to keep Artemi Panarin

    Aaron Portzline‏Verified account @Aportzline · 5m5 minutes ago

    #CBJ are trying to get this done tonight … as in within the next two hours. After that, they can’t give him eight years.

  37. Munny says:

    Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun · 37m37 minutes ago

    As others have also speculated, while nothing can be signed until Monday, Matt Duchene slated to join Nashville. Contract can’t be officially negotiated until Monday but sounds like $56 million over 7 years is what has been discussed.

  38. Munny says:

    I can’t believe Zuccarello is going to get $6M a year.

  39. rickithebear says:

    Giordano:
    18-19 78gp 53 ev/shp, 21 ppp = 7, 60 evp total, offence production was ideal for reg season.
    Smiths #2 open HD save% game and better open HD def for Rittich made for good reg ssn.
    17-18 82gp 28 evp, 10 ppp = 3.333, 31.333 evp total, did not ranslate to +ve goal diff no playoffs
    16-17 81gp 25 evp, 14 ppp = 4.667, 29.667 evp total,
    Elliot’s top 3 +ve open even save% made for positive goal diff and playoffs.
    15-16 82gm 37 evp, 19 ppp = 6.333, 43.333 evp total
    Hiller played top 5 +ve open HD save% in 14-15, but league avg save% with bottom 3 expected save% lead to -ve goal diff in 15-16 for bio.

    The 3 yrs Calgary made playoffs they had top 5 +ve open HD save% from smith, Elliot, & Hiller and bottom 3 expected save%

    Playoffs
    18-19 5gm -3
    16-17 4gm -2

    He was a clear Norris Dman in thev80’s style of abandon HD area generate pts like a 1st line forward.
    Elite open HD goalie bailing your ass out defensively.

    Smith is the best HD goalie option out there.
    Top 3 open HD regularly.

    Were is he expected to go?

    Slept most of afternoon.

    Clearly Holland is showing signs of valuing what he stated.
    See if he goes after any HD dmen or prospects.

  40. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Buying out Sekera is silly on its own but at least we get to see a Jones or Lagesson take that next step (hopefully).

    Using the money on bad cap and term would make the silly move really egregious – I’d rather hold on to cap space then sign Nyquist to 4 plus or Connolly to $4M X 4 or Perry to multi-years or Mrazek to 5 years, etc.

    I don’t like buyouts but the organization must have definitely felt Sekera was done for the 5.5 mil price tag. We shall see if he signs with another team if he proves Holland and company made a miscalculation on him.

  41. Pouzar says:

    texmex:
    Perry to Dallas.1 x $1.5 with bonuses

    Disaster averted…now where’s the next iceberg.

  42. Pouzar says:

    Pierre LeBrun

    Verified account

    @PierreVLeBrun
    2m2 minutes ago
    More Pierre LeBrun Retweeted Aaron Portzline
    Also hear the CBJ offered around $12 M or so a year over 8 years ….

  43. Buddy says:

    OriginalPouzar: Having a few million of cap space would be an amazing thing.

    If the goalies hold and they are in the hunt – if they are accruing throughout the year and banking, they could make a big splash in season.

    Also, lets not forget, when players get banged up and go on IR and what not, their cap hits still apply plus their replacement on the roster.

    Having room under the cap is important.

    This is a good point. NJ just picked up Subban for pennies on the dollar because they had cap space.

    I just wish we were creating genuine cap space, rather than kicking it into the future when we’ll hopefully actually be competitive, and might really need it.

  44. Reja says:

    Munny:
    I can’t believe Zuccarello is going to get $6M a year.

    The Matt Duchene’s of the world get 8 mil Wow

  45. Pouzar says:

    Darren Dreger

    Verified account

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    No reason the Canucks and Tyler Myers won’t come to terms. Vancouver is considering structural options. It’s expected details will be worked out tonight or in the morning.

  46. Pouzar says:

    With Ben Chiarot on the UFA market who da fook is playin “D” fer da Jets?

  47. rickithebear says:

    déjà:
    just read your post.

    Is Smith coming to us?
    If yes how much?

    Just checked 2-4M WTF!

  48. Gerta Rauss says:

    Pouzar:
    Darren Dreger

    Verified account

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    No reason the Canucks and Tyler Myers won’t come to terms. Vancouver is considering structural options.It’s expected details will be worked out tonight or in the morning.

    Hat tip to the poster that called this like….2 months ago

    He even put the book it thingy on it

  49. leadfarmer says:

    rickithebear,

    No they have the same value
    +1 on the score sheet
    The final tally does not differentiate how the goals were scored

    If you are not scoring on the pp your opposition is. The numbers you listed above are averages and not guarantees. What matters is where you are in regards to the average. If your even strength goal scoring is below average then you are relying very heavily on your pp. if your second unit poweplay is giving you significantly lower numbers then you are relying heavily on the first unit. If your power play is not scoring then you need to significantly outscore 5v5, which like you showed above is much harder to do and the reason Nashville is throwing a bunch of money on Duchenne tomorrow. Hockey is a team sport and need 5 players playing together on defense, neutral zone, and offense and not playing defense is for defensemen and offense is for forwards game that you advocate because then you are outnumbered everywhere by the team that plays as a 5 men unit.
    There’s a reason coaches list their special team goals as the number 10. Pp and pk ranking of top 5 in each.
    What you don’t want to do is pay a player for pp points that they just give back 5v5, whether they are forwards or defensemen
    So the part I will agree with you is the pk portion of the equation is cheaper to fix than the pp but is equally important to the pp.
    Our goal for next season should be top 5 pp and pk and hope our patched up lineup can tread water 5v5

  50. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Buddy: This is a good point. NJ just picked up Subban for pennies on the dollar because they had cap space.

    I just wish we were creating genuine cap space, rather than kicking it into the future when we’ll hopefully actually be competitive, and might really need it.

    Apparently Subban has back issues which is part of why so cheap to get him despite the cap hit which is now a relative deal for a top offensive D.

  51. McSorley33 says:

    Pouzar,

    Niku and Poolman

  52. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar: Having a few million of cap space would be an amazing thing.

    If the goalies hold and they are in the hunt – if they are accruing throughout the year and banking, they could make a big splash in season.

    Also, lets not forget, when players get banged up and go on IR and what not, their cap hits still apply plus their replacement on the roster.

    Having room under the cap is important.

    But we have more than a few million. Also I don’t see us as a team that will be adding during the season.

  53. Pouzar says:

    McSorley33:
    Pouzar,

    Niku and Poolman

    Yeah they are next up. Best of luck to them.

  54. leadfarmer says:

    Munny:
    I can’t believe Zuccarello is going to get $6M a year.

    I’m actually surprised he isn’t getting more. Colorado was looking like they were willing to throw money around and Minnesota was all like we’re still here.
    I mean Hayes got over 7 mil

  55. Pouzar says:

    Twitterverse has gone mad I tells ya.

  56. hags9k says:

    People should not get too upset about a 1-year Smith deal.

    The bet is on Koskinen, and his level of play matters far more.

  57. Pouzar says:

    Alex Thomas

    @Alex_Thomas14
    3m3 minutes ago
    More Alex Thomas Retweeted Elliotte Friedman
    Friedman connects the #Oilers to Valtteri Filppula and Gustav Nyquist.

  58. Pouzar says:

    RE: Myers

    David Pagnotta

    @TheFourthPeriod
    9s10 seconds ago
    More David Pagnotta Retweeted Darren Dreger
    Sounds like Jordie Benn may be joining him in Vancouver.

  59. Pouzar says:

    Rumors of 5 yrs x $6 mill for Zuccarello….

  60. Alpine says:

    Friedman linking us with Filppula in his latest article.

    He can actually still score at evens. His last three years he had 2.1, 1.5, and 1.9 P/60.

    Huge heater last year. Shot 21% and had a 1057 PDO. Seems to get outscored and outshot on the regular but I haven’t looked at his relative goal share.

    Is he Brodziak with offense?

  61. Pouzar says:

    Alpine: Is he Brodziak with offense?

    Not good at anything and has offense?

    I don’t get the Brodziak reference.

  62. rickithebear says:

    leadfarmer:
    rickithebear,

    No they have the same value
    +1 on the score sheet
    The final tally does not differentiate how the goals were scored

    If you are not scoring on the pp your opposition is.The numbers you listed above are averages and not guarantees.What matters is where you are in regards to the average.If your even strength goal scoring is below average then you are relying very heavily on your pp.if your second unit poweplay is giving you significantly lower numbers then you are relying heavily on the first unit.If your power play is not scoring then you need to significantly outscore 5v5, which like you showed above is much harder to do and the reason Nashville is throwing a bunch of money on Duchenne tomorrow.Hockey is a team sport and need 5 players playing together on defense, neutral zone, and offense and not playing defense is for defensemen and offense is for forwards game that you advocate because then you are outnumbered everywhere by the team that plays as a 5 men unit.
    There’s a reason coaches list their special team goals as the number 10.Pp and pk ranking of top 5 in each.
    What you don’t want to do is pay a player for pp points that they just give back 5v5, whether they are forwards or defensemen
    So the part I will agree with you is the pk portion of the equation is cheaper to fix than the pp but is equally important to the pp.
    Our goal for next season should be top 5 pp and pk and hope our patched up lineup can tread water 5v5

    Really by seasonal goal diff measure which is how you make playoffs.
    You need 7.35 evg/60 during the season.

    Analytics is a seasonal action we’re your trying to get your team to perform.

    Given equal minutes at even and PP per game you need 3 times the production on PP to break even.

    So fuck yeah their is a difference.

    A gfor in 12 min of pp play 5.00 ppg/60 in league avg 7.35 ppg/ 60 play
    Is a goal diff of -.47 ppg/60
    A gfor in 12 min of even play 5.00 evg/60 in league avg 2.35 evg/60 play
    Is a goal diff of +.53 evg/60

    You say they seasonal total goal diff affect of a single PPG in a given TOI is the same as an EVG seasonal goal dif affect in equal given TOI.

    This guy moment brought to you by
    Flat earth forest farmer.

    Another to add to my notes.

  63. rickithebear says:

    Lead farmer you challenging my posts is causing me to remember a lot of brain stored theory that I had forgotten from Chemo.

    I am legitimately appreciative of the cause & affect of your posts.

    You are intelligent in your articulating and presentation of your old school 80’s beliefs.

    So Thank you very much.

    Keep throwing the old boys club 80’s analysis.

    I have captured 10 headings of theorem I may have remembered later.
    But this site is helping my brain slowly return to high function savant form.

    Keep being challenging.

    Once again Thank you!

  64. unca miltie says:

    whatever happened with “lets be patient and wait for the bargains” ?

  65. leadfarmer says:

    rickithebear,

    I really don’t think you know how averages work.

    Also with all your genius could you please explain how your infallible theory
    Of having a top 5 open HD goalie
    4 top 50 open HD dmen. I mean the average team in the league has less than two
    Hasn’t been close to making the playoffs

    Because your theory is broken
    Defense is not just for defensemen
    Offense is not for forwards
    It’s a team sport for a reason

    Now if you could please become GM of the Flames so you can trade giordano and some of their up and coming D men for Russell

  66. oilersfan says:

    Filpula if I recall has negative corsi rel but faces the toughs and has a heavy d zone start

    He is also an excellent penalty killer and decent at faceoffs

    I would be happy with Filpulla on a one year deal

    Nyquist scares me for the term he will want

  67. leadfarmer says:

    rickithebear<
    The part you don’t get is my defensemen need to defend, skate and make a pass. Everything else is gravy but not necessary . But your defensemen while cover the most important part are unfortunately always defending therefore they are a net negative for the team.

    Also I would like to see your mathematical equation of how a pp goal and ev goal do not equal 1 point on the scoreboard

  68. digger50 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Ken Holland was GM of the Detroit Red Wings when the Oilers management team had that assesment.

    Ken Holland has specifically mentioned Bouchard when giving examples of players that need to be seasoned in the AHL prior to the NHL.

    With Jones and Lagesson both NHL ready (with just needing to prove it), I don’t imagine we see Evan.

    I think Holland has been around long enough, Tippett too, to know that the 7 points in 6 exhibition games Bouchard will get mean zip with respect to NHL readiness.

    I think we have all been around long enough to know that GMs do not always do what they say.

    You incorrectly called the Sekera deal, this happened despite Holland stating he recognized the mentor ship role Reggie could play. I stated in April it would happen and you corrected me then as well.

    They might slow play the rookies, they might not. I see two D men positions up for grabs and it’s anyones guess who gets the jobs.

  69. godot10 says:

    Tampa signed Coburn and Schenn as cover for Foote. Which is why I wanted to offer Benning (modulo stff) for JT Miller. They had a need. We didn’t move to fill it.

  70. Reja says:

    hags9k:
    People should not get too upset about a 1-year Smith deal.

    The bet is on Koskinen, and his level of play matters far more.

    Lots of negative Nancy’s with Smith and Kosh Tandem. If Smith can stay healthy I like it. I can’t wait for my 2 Goalies to prove the whiner crowd wrong.

  71. russ99 says:

    hags9k,

    Also Smith put up nice numbers playing behind Tippett’s systems.

  72. rickithebear says:

    leadfarmer:
    rickithebear,

    I really don’t think you know how averages work.

    Also with all your genius could you please explain how your infallible theory
    Of having a top 5 open HD goalie
    4 top 50 open HD dmen. I mean the average team in the league has less than two
    Hasn’t been close to making the playoffs

    Because your theory is broken
    Defense is not just for defensemen
    Offense is not for forwards
    It’s a team sport for a reason

    Now if you could please become GM of the Flames so you can trade giordano and some of their up and coming D men for Russell

    This is not up to your 80’s challenging standard.

    It is trite establishment comments.
    110% and such.

    I stated specific affect results from schematic & human machine actions.
    That translate into either seasonal avg value.

    Relates to a seasonal +ve or -ve goal diff value per 60 relative to 216 to 512 3D players expected situational averages to establish a +ve or -ve affect.

    We further have to include 3-2-1/3-1-1-1 variance and NZ fwd trap to establish 864 to 2048 different 5D graphed expected situational averages to establish +ve & -ve affect of the 5 large affect situational actors.

    It clearly provides the NHL population to seek out when it comes to + ve goal dif ( winning) play.
    Which repeats themselves in my cup core theory.

    Lead you arevresistent to 25/ years of repatative winning core.

    Yet you provide no examples of rosters of your structure that has repetative championship history.
    I can think of one that was not completely 100% of my cup core roster that won 2 championships with highly superior off production.

    Yet they had just below standard on GA side of the game.

    I look forward to the specifics on schematic structure & differential affects from your roster belief.

    You may end up being my multivariable hockey analytic muse.

  73. Reja says:

    russ99:
    hags9k,

    Also Smith put up nice numbers playing behind Tippett’s systems.

    Kosh may as well.

  74. rickithebear says:

    russ99:
    hags9k,

    Also Smith put up nice numbers playing behind Tippett’s systems.

    Piece #1 of cup core roster theory.
    1. Open HD defy system coach. Top available was Tippett.
    2. Top 10 open HD save% goalie.

    I have repeated my open closed theory for years.
    Now add the 2nd of 2 critical density valuations needed for real hockey analysis.

    Great point Russ.

  75. Ryan says:

    Okay, I don’t like the Reggie buyout, but it’s easy for me to let next season burn… I don’t get checks with Oilers logos on them and I have a tv remote.

    In fairness to Holland, if I were in his shoes being the GM of the Siberia Oilers, I’m not sure I wouldn’t have bought out Reggie to free up cap space.

    Smith… don’t love that bet either, but at least it’s a year.

    Let’s see what he does tomorrow…

    Not an easy job for Holland. No cap, tough market to attract players.

  76. rickithebear says:

    Reja: Kosh may as well.

    Reja:

    It is easier to have an above average seasonal save % when the expected save% you are asked to perform around is any of .916 to .932 for every Dpair.

    See NJD of the mid to late 90’s
    LAK of 11-12, 12-13, 13-14 they won a cup with #28 GF offence.

  77. Numenius says:

    godot10: Tampa signed Coburn and Schenn as cover for Foote. Which is why I wanted to offer Benning (modulo stff) for JT Miller. They had a need. We didn’t move to fill it.

    To be a successful GM in the future, it will be essential to know how to take advantage of cap strapped teams. Waddell is putting on a clinic in Carolina.

    I don’t think Holland has that skill yet, but maybe he surprises us.

    You’d think there has to be something along the lines of Puljujarvi traded to a team for a good player with them retaining salary.

    If only we had more cap space. It’s gold in this market.

  78. Ryan says:

    I’m in the minority here, but I’m disappointed that Holland didn’t buyout Lucic. The bandaid needs to be ripped off and there’s no less pain doing it later than this year.

  79. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Looking around cap friendly thinking of deals and such, man there are a lot of teams in worse shape cap and roster wise than the Oilers. Lots of contracts to sign, no cap, a few are really thin at D.

    There has to be cap dumps galore coming. There should also be a fair few guys looking for contracts in a few weeks. We’ll see what Holland is made of.

    I’d use JP, possibly Benning because he’s cheap and some assets and cash in if possible. I’d also move Russell if I could sign Stralman for less than him.

    He could build a better roster fast with some luck and courage. I’m not afraid of moves, I’m afraid of no negotiating and pro assessment skills. If they stand too pat we know the outcome. Tippet should help but it’s not a good mix of player types.

  80. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Ryan:
    I’m in the minority here, but I’m disappointed that Holland didn’t buyout Lucic. The bandaid needs to be ripped off and there’s no less pain doing it later than this year.

    I hope they trade him for Loui who should at least have some uses to the coach, be more able to play up the lineup, and being 50 pounds lighter should be a little quicker. Still wasted cap but not zombie cap.

  81. Pouzar says:

    Frank Seravalli

    Verified account

    @frank_seravalli
    1m1 minute ago
    More
    Expectation is Tyler Myers and #Canucks are closing in on a 5-year, $30 million deal to be signed Monday – as @DarrenDreger reported earlier was in the works.

  82. Reja says:

    rickithebear: Reja:

    It is easier to have an above average seasonal save % when the expected save% you are asked to perform around is any of .916 to .932 for every Dpair.

    See NJD of the mid to late 90’s
    LAK of 11-12, 12-13, 13-14 they won a cup with #28 GF offence.

    If players buy into the system. I’ve heard that a lot in the last 20 years

  83. Caller Zen says:

    Gerta Rauss: Hat tip to the poster that called this like….2 months ago

    He even put the book it thingy on it

    Yeah, I remember that, too! I think he has a buddy who is good friends with Myers and he knew the intention and desire months ago was to sign with the Canucks. I almost thought it was a hometown thing, but Google tells me Myers grew up in Calgary.

  84. Numenius says:

    If Holland signs Nyquist, Filpulla, and Smith to modest amounts (e.g. 5.5, 1.5, and 2 respectively), and all remaining players to sign average 1 M, he’s over the cap by about 0.66 M.

    That’s not bad, but it shows there will have to be another shoe to drop to get more cap space.

    And especially so if one of those contracts is higher, as is likely.

    Perhaps it’ll have to be a matter of moving Benning. In that case, they’d be counting on 2 rookies to play 3rd pair at the start of the year. Wow.

  85. Rebillled says:

    possible Filppula, Nyquist, and add Smith

    minus one Reggie.

    Is This It?

  86. Reja says:

    Andy Dufresne: What you talkin bout Willis?

    You sayin Holland is the Oppossite OP* ??

    High on Koski low on Rej ?

    That’s crazy talk.

    ( * Costanza reference )

    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

  87. RonnieB says:

    Numenius,

    They will save $1.075 million by sending Manning to Bakersfield.

  88. Munny says:

    Jim Matheson‏ @NHLbyMatty · 29m29 minutes ago

    Perry out for Oilers. Chiasson still badly wants to come back and Edm should definitely resign him. Great leadership, solid third-line RW who can be net-front presence on PP. Ask McDavid and RNH and Draisaitl what they think of him? All two thumbs up…

  89. Munny says:

    I’m guessing Panarin didn’t sign in CBJ… or we should have heard by now.

  90. flyfish1168 says:

    Munny:
    Jim Matheson‏ @NHLbyMatty · 29m29 minutes ago


    Perry out for Oilers. Chiasson still badly wants to come back and Edm should definitely resign him. Great leadership, solid third-line RW who can be net-front presence on PP. Ask McDavid and RNH and Draisaitl what they think of him? All two thumbs up…

    The term can be an issue. I hate it to be more than 1 year. Kailer probably ready next year

  91. Numenius says:

    RonnieB:
    Numenius,

    They will save $1.075 million by sending Manning to Bakersfield.

    Alas, they’ll only gain .075 M on that scenario, since they’ll have to replace Manning with another roster player, which on my scenario will cost 1 M on average. So you save 1.075 only to lose most of it again.

  92. Munny says:

    flyfish1168: The term can be an issue. I hate it to be more than 1 year. Kailer probably ready next year

    Sounds like he’s signing for $1.5M over 1 year, so I’m guessing he simply preferred the Stars and living in the USA. Probably will get to play with Pavelski too.

  93. Numenius says:

    Munny:
    Jim Matheson‏ @NHLbyMatty · 29m29 minutes ago


    Perry out for Oilers. Chiasson still badly wants to come back and Edm should definitely resign him. Great leadership, solid third-line RW who can be net-front presence on PP. Ask McDavid and RNH and Draisaitl what they think of him? All two thumbs up…

    If Chiasson would sign for 1 M or less with no NMC, I’d take him back in a heartbeat.

  94. Harpers Hair says:

    Munny: Sounds like he’s signing for $1.5M over 1 year, so I’m guessing he simply preferred the Stars and living in the USA. Probably will get to play with Pavelski too.

    Stars are loading up their second line with Hintz, Pavelski and Perry to free up Benn, Seguin and Radulov for easier minutes.
    Should work.

  95. Munny says:

    Numenius: If Chiasson would sign for 1 M or less with no NMC, I’d take him back in a heartbeat.

    What about at $1.5?

    $1M is crazy talk.

  96. Munny says:

    I can see Holland signing Riley Sheahan this week. He drafted him.

  97. Munny says:

    So if Holly does something like sign Smith, Chiasson, Sheahan, Flippula and say Stralman to deals with none over $2M, would that make people happy? I mean interchange names if you wish… say Pirri or someone else, but is that our hope for this week? 5 guys times $2M or less?

  98. Alpine says:

    Pouzar: Not good at anything and has offense?

    I don’t get the Brodziak reference.

    Both get defensive usage and are outshot/outscored but Filppula can still pitch in offense.

  99. Alpine says:

    Munny:
    So if Holly does something like sign Smith, Chiasson, Sheahan, Flippula and say Stralman to deals with one over $2M, would that make people happy?I mean interchange names if you wish… say Pirri or someone else, but is that our hope for this week?5 guys times $2M or less?

    Winger group would still be terrible. Stralman’s in decline and would only make sense if they are sending away Russell.

  100. Reja says:

    Munny: What about at $1.5?

    $1M is crazy talk.

    He will want 2 mil for 3 years he will settle at 1.85 on a 3 year contract that’s my prediction.

  101. Numenius says:

    Munny: What about at $1.5?

    $1M is crazy talk.

    No doubt he’s worth 1.5, but show me how you fit him under the cap at that price.

    I mentioned above that after you sign Nyquist, Smith, and Filpulla to modest contracts, you can’t average more than 1 M on all of the remaining contracts to fit under the cap.

    Unless you get rid of some other contract, like Benning’s.

  102. Munny says:

    Reja,

    Yeah, even $1,5 seemed low when I wrote it. But under $1 is nuts. But he’s a guy you don’t rush out to sign July 1 and see if it can knock some dollars or term off his wants. Like all the other guys I’ve mentioned.

  103. Munny says:

    Numenius: No doubt he’s worth 1.5, but show me how you fit him under the cap at that price.

    I mentioned above that after you sign Nyquist, Smith, and Filpulla to modest contracts, you can’t average more than 1 M on all of the remaining contracts to fit under the cap.

    If you read my later post, Nyquist isn’t there.

  104. Munny says:

    Alpine: Winger group would still be terrible. Stralman’s in decline and would only make sense if they are sending away Russell.

    Sure but is it as terrible as it would be if instead of 3 of those guys we signed Nyquist? I’m not sure… I quite like Nyquist and would like him if he was coming at a reasonable price. But I like me some depth too. And sort low risk deals.

  105. Numenius says:

    Munny: If you read my later post, Nyquist isn’t there.

    Ah, I see. Thanks. That would definitely work.

    Though I doubt Holland would be happy not having a proper top 6 forward to add.

    I don’t think I’d be happy either.

  106. Reja says:

    Munny:
    Reja,

    Yeah, even $1,5 seemed low when I wrote it.But under $1 is nuts.But he’s a guy you don’t rush out to sign July 1 and see if it can knock some dollars or term off his wants.Like all the other guys I’ve mentioned.

    There will be lots of bargain bin to choose from but chase is well liked respected and wants to play for the Oiler and he does have deceptive shot. Sign the man Holland.

  107. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    What I would like to know, is how the hell are all these contract signings getting leaked as “sure things” with dollar values and everything a day before they’re able to sign anyone? And what about the whole not allowed to negotiate contracts with players until July 1st thing?

    WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!?!?

  108. Gerta Rauss says:

    Crazy Pedestrian,

    Lol

    It is curious, I don’t recall in past years the steady stream of “sure things” prior to July 1. There was always whispers, but this year seems different

  109. JimmyV1965 says:

    Please please Holland don’t sign anyone tomorrow. I will consider a Nyquist or Dzingel signing an absolute disaster and a continuation of a long history of bad Oiler signings.

  110. Reja says:

    If we sign Holland’s boy Nyquist which it’s starting to feel like how much and how long?

  111. Caller Zen says:

    Munny:
    So if Holly does something like sign Smith, Chiasson, Sheahan, Flippula and say Stralman to deals with none over $2M, would that make people happy?I mean interchange names if you wish… say Pirri or someone else, but is that our hope for this week?5 guys times $2M or less?

    Happy… until it doesn’t pan out. My biggest concern is that bringing in 4 or 5 new guys at $2m or less is really just smoke and mirrors; it will look like Holly is very proactive in fixing this mess, but placing bets on these guys is just covering his a$$ because he couldn’t sign a bigger name (due to lack of cap and UFA interest).

  112. YKOil says:

    Not a big fan of Sekera buy-out. I guess the worry now is that we avoid another Pouliot situation (bought out to create Cap space… that was never used in an actual deal… FA signing or otherwise).

  113. YKOil says:

    I like Lee better than Nyquist. Expect we get Nyquist. Expect a 5 year deal.

    Question is $. Probably $5.5 to 6.0m. Not a big fan at that price. Team will be better years 1-3 though.

  114. rickithebear says:

    Cup core roster:
    1. Top open HD def system coach
    -Tippet was #1 option on market.

    2. Top 10 open HD save% goalie
    – Smith was the #1 option on the UFA market

    3. 3+ top 60 open HD Dmen.
    Make them shoot from the perimeter (les than 1.5x shots)
    Force high % of corsi yeilded by failed forward entry reduction to 0% corsi:
    blocks + misses + closed shot ( hit goalie 0% chance shot)
    – Larsson Top 10 Open HD dman facing 1st comp
    – Benning Top 40 facing 2 Nd/3rd comp
    – Nurse is a 20 total even pt top 60 HD dmen when attacking without providing free path to HD area.
    – Russell an elite closed Corsi dman gets dpartners rank results.

    4. Top team in top 125 fwd depth
    Mcdavid 2.796 125 fwds
    Draisaitl 2.268 125 fwds
    RNH 1.531 125 fwd
    Chaisson 1.20 top 125 fwd with41.66% of Draisaitl s even TOI.
    Kassian .842 top 125 ev fwd with 31.45% of Mcdavids even TOI.
    We should expect a total of 3.00+ top 125 ev fwds if we run
    Draisaitl – Mcdavid – RW A & B & C getting 33.33% of lines TOI

    Now if we can chase as much Cummulative Top 125 ev production in our bottom 7 Fwds
    Fillpulla .850 top 125 ev fwd 77 gm 11.5 evg 26 Evp
    Hartman .866 top 125 ev fwd 79gm 11.667 evg 25.667 Evp
    Sheahan .643 Top 125 ev fwd 78gm 8 evg 21 evp
    Archibald 68 gm 9 evg 17 Evp
    Paajarvi 80 gm 8 evg 14 evp

    5. Top special team goal differential.
    Top PK fwd
    #12 J. Archibald 1:15 PKtoi, 4.76 pkga/60
    #45 Khaira 1:14 pktoi, 5.92 pkga/60
    #60 Paajarvi 1:30 pktoi, 6.23 pkga/60
    #80 Sheahan 1:45 pktoi, 6.53 pkga/60
    #113 fillpulla 1:37 pktoi, 7.01 pkga/60

    Archibald, Sheahan, fillpulla, gets us 30 evg and 3 of the best ufa pk fwds in the market.

  115. Rube Foster says:

    godot10: Water dissolving and water removing
    There is water at the bottom of the ocean
    Under the water, carry the water
    Remove the water from the bottom of the ocean
    Water dissolving and water removing
    Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
    Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
    Into the blue again, into the silent water
    Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground

    Same as it ever was.

  116. OriginalPouzar says:

    leadfarmer: But we have more than a few million. Also I don’t see us as a team that will be adding during the season.

    They will spend some of the money, clearly, they don’t have a full roster yet.

    Being a few million under the cap at the end of the off-season would be nice.

    Of course, my post said “if the goalies hold and they are in the hunt….” so I spoke to your last point.

  117. OriginalPouzar says:

    Pouzar:
    Alex Thomas

    @Alex_Thomas143m3 minutes ago
    More Alex Thomas Retweeted Elliotte Friedman
    Friedman connects the #Oilers to Valtteri Filppula and Gustav Nyquist.

    Nyquest at 3 years or less would be amazing – it does sound ilke Holland was holding firm on term which is essential from that player.

  118. OriginalPouzar says:

    Alpine:
    Friedman linking us with Filppula in his latest article.

    He can actually still score at evens. His last three years he had 2.1, 1.5, and 1.9 P/60.

    Huge heater last year. Shot 21% and had a 1057 PDO. Seems to get outscored and outshot on the regular but I haven’t looked at his relative goal share.

    Is he Brodziak with offense?

    Brodziak had offence the year in STL before signing in Edmonton.

  119. OriginalPouzar says:

    digger50: I think we have all been around long enough to know that GMs do not always do what they say.

    You incorrectly called the Sekera deal, this happened despite Holland stating he recognized the mentor ship role Reggie could play. I stated in April it would happen and you corrected me then as well.

    They might slow play the rookies, they might not. I see two D men positions up for grabs and it’s anyones guess who gets the jobs.

    Holland did say he was contemplating a buyout and he never said he wouldn’t buy out Sekera – has has said expressly that Bouchard is an example of a player that should be in the AHL.

    Time will tell if he’s true to that word and, yes, of course, its anyone’s guess who will be on the team in the depth spots but we’re just discussing here, as the community is for.

  120. OriginalPouzar says:

    russ99:
    hags9k,

    Also Smith put up nice numbers playing behind Tippett’s systems.

    True and solid point but, on the other hand, Tippett changes his systems to those that will help the roster he is given succeed – he always has an eye on defence with moving the puck as a 5 man unit but his systems and deployment were different in ARI than DAL and will likely be a different in EDM than either.

    I am 100% on board with hoping that Smith/Koskinen prove to be a great due this year and, Smith plays great and Starrett does great in his 3 starts during Smith’s groin injury IR time.

  121. OriginalPouzar says:

    RonnieB:
    Numenius,

    They will save $1.075 million by sending Manning to Bakersfield.

    but he’ll need to be replaced on the roster by a player so the cap saving will only be a few hundred grand depending on the replacement.

  122. OriginalPouzar says:

    Munny:
    So if Holly does something like sign Smith, Chiasson, Sheahan, Flippula and say Stralman to deals with none over $2M, would that make people happy?I mean interchange names if you wish… say Pirri or someone else, but is that our hope for this week?5 guys times $2M or less?

    Stralman under $2M? That’s not realistic. I’m not sure its realistic to think about Stralman under $4M or under 3 years.

  123. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja:
    If we sign Holland’s boyNyquist which it’s starting to feel like how much and how long?

    He’d be fine/great for 3 years or less. 4 years or more I don’t like.

    Can’t believe it would be the former.

  124. OriginalPouzar says:

    With losing Trouba and Myers I wonder if WIN would be interested in Russell at $1M retained?

    I know they need right shot D now but “Russell can play both sides”.

    Maybe we can pry Ehlers lose – it would take much more than Russell at $3M, likely one of our top prospects like Samorukov or Benson as well and maybe more.

    We have the cap room now and if we clear $3M with Russell.

    Sign a cheap veteran D like Gravel for depth (which we’d need if both Russell and Sekera are gone).

  125. OriginalPouzar says:

    Spezza to TO on a one year, $700K deal – that’s a great value bet – damn.

  126. flyfish1168 says:

    Ben Hutton would be a defenseman I would be interested in. I understand Caleb down at Bakersfield played mainly right side.

    Nyquist at 3 years or less would be amazing

    Fillpulla 1 year only, please

    Riley Sheahan 2 year max

    I’m concern about the term on some of these players if Holland decides to sign them

  127. Walter Gretzkys Neighbour says:

    Any interest, potential for Chiarot and Ferland as options?

    Haven’t spent any time whatsoever on relative statistics and performance, just looking for options to possibly upgrade. So are they potential upgrades?

    I liked Chiasson, good start but a big fade over the season. Still if he is interested in resigning.

    Just my non-analytical questions on a holiday Monday.

  128. McSorley33 says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Brodziak was 33 when he gushed all that offence with St. Louis.

    St. Louis made a choice not to sign him.

    Two kinds of people on Brodziak last year;

    1) People who were surprised Brodziak only had 9 points on 70 games

    2) People who were Not Surprised

  129. OriginalPouzar says:

    Sounds like Ennis will be heading to Ottawa along with Hainsey.

  130. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    With losing Trouba and Myers I wonder if WIN would be interested in Russell at $1M retained?

    I know they need right shot D now but “Russell can play both sides”.

    Maybe we can pry Ehlers lose – it would take much more than Russell at $3M, likely one of our top prospects like Samorukov or Benson as well and maybe more.

    We have the cap room now and if we clear $3M with Russell.

    Sign a cheap veteran D like Gravel for depth (which we’d need if both Russell and Sekera are gone).

    I would like to see Russell for Perreault with no retention. I think this helps both teams… but with Sekera gone I’d hesitate to trade Russell because no veteran cover, although I suppose there will be UFA defensemen willing to sign for 1 year.

  131. McSorley33 says:

    Just a reminder. Valtteri Filppula is 35 years old….

  132. OriginalPouzar says:

    McSorley33:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Brodziak was 33 when he gushed all that offence with St. Louis.

    St. Louis made a choice not to sign him.

    Two kinds of people on Brodziak last year;

    1) Peoplewho were surprised Brodziak only had 9 points on 70 games

    2) People who were Not Surprised

    How does that take away from the Brodziak/Filppula comparison when someone says Fillpula is Brodz with offence?

    Brodz had offence the year before he signed with Edmonton just as Filppula would if he signed with Edmonton this year and he is no younger than when Brodz provided the offence in STL.

  133. ArmchairGM says:

    It’ll be a damn shame if Connolly signs in Florida for $3.5M x 4. I would take him here at that price, no question. Of course, maybe he just wanted to live in Miami…

  134. SoxandOil says:

    Have a strange feeling oilers will sign phaneuf to a 1 year deal today. Just can’t shake it

  135. OriginalPouzar says:

    “Just a reminder. Valtteri Filppula is 35 years old….”

    ____________________________________________

    Anything more than a one-year deal would be egregious.

    I wonder if Holland will try for another performance bonus deal – if so, the base better be fully buryable.

  136. OriginalPouzar says:

    ArmchairGM: I would like to see Russell for Perreault with no retention. I think this helps both teams… but with Sekera gone I’d hesitate to trade Russell because no veteran cover, although I suppose there will be UFA defensemen willing to sign for 1 year.

    My post speaks to the need for a veteran cover if Russell is disposed of.

    Man, disposing of Sekera over Russell, in particular with in a buyout scenario, really stings and effs things up a bit.

  137. T0ML says:

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    Expect EDM to add Markus Granlund on a one-year deal. Fresh start for him.

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    Granlund is a nice start? Hope its cheap

  138. OriginalPouzar says:

    Looks like Grandlund will be an Oiler on a one-year deal – Friedman.

  139. OriginalPouzar says:

    Granlund scored at replacement level/4th line rates at 5 on 5 and had negative possession metrics but positive metric relative to his teammates. His most common linemates were clearly bottom 6, Virtanen, Motte, Roussell – he may have more to give offensively if given middle 6 or perhaps top 6 linemates.

    He played almost 2.5 min/g on the PK so that is great that we have a heavily used PK guy coming.

  140. Surly says:

    Good (assuming value) signing. From Oulu…same as Pitkanen…WAY north in Finland.

    At today’s media avail, Holland will let us know if we had Granlund’s 12 goals last year instead of Reider’s 0 we would have made the playoffs *face-palm*

  141. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Granlund scored at replacement level/4th line rates at 5 on 5 and had negative possession metrics but positive metric relative to his teammates.His most common linemates were clearly bottom 6, Virtanen, Motte, Roussell – he may have more to give offensively if given middle 6 or perhaps top 6 linemates.

    He played almost 2.5 min/g on the PK so that is great that we have a heavily used PK guy coming.

    How much cash for Mr Granlund

  142. blainer says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Granlund scored at replacement level/4th line rates at 5 on 5 and had negative possession metrics but positive metric relative to his teammates.His most common linemates were clearly bottom 6, Virtanen, Motte, Roussell – he may have more to give offensively if given middle 6 or perhaps top 6 linemates.

    He played almost 2.5 min/g on the PK so that is great that we have a heavily used PK guy coming.

    We need someone who can win a faceoff .. Maybe Sheehan comes too !!

  143. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: My post speaks to the need for a veteran cover if Russell is disposed of.

    Man, disposing of Sekera over Russell, in particular with in a buyout scenario, really stings and effs things up a bit.

    I’d like Sekera back on a PTO if he doesn’t get an offer this summer. I still believe.

  144. Todd Macallan says:

    1.3 mil for 1 yr as per Strickland for Granlund

  145. godot10 says:

    Ryan:
    I’m in the minority here, but I’m disappointed that Holland didn’t buyout Lucic. The bandaid needs to be ripped off and there’s no less pain doing it later than this year.

    But the thing about Lucic, is that if you rip off the bandaid, you find the bandaid is still there.

  146. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    ArmchairGM: I’d like Sekera back on a PTO if he doesn’t get an offer this summer. I still believe.

    Bought out players can’t re-sign with the team that bought them out for one season.

  147. Numenius says:

    godot10: But the thing about Lucic, is that if you rip off the bandaid, you find the bandaid is still there.

    Well said

  148. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja: How much cashfor Mr Granlund

    Don’t know yet but it won’t be much. He made $1.4M last year and didn’t get qualified – will be less than that.

  149. Ryan says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Granlund scored at replacement level/4th line rates at 5 on 5 and had negative possession metrics but positive metric relative to his teammates.His most common linemates were clearly bottom 6, Virtanen, Motte, Roussell – he may have more to give offensively if given middle 6 or perhaps top 6 linemates.

    He played almost 2.5 min/g on the PK so that is great that we have a heavily used PK guy coming.

    Didn’t check, does he take draws and actually play centre?

    If so, he has to be an upgrade over Brodziak/Cave.

  150. OriginalPouzar says:

    ArmchairGM: I’d like Sekera back on a PTO if he doesn’t get an offer this summer. I still believe.

    Can’t sign someone you just bought out.

  151. Reja says:

    Numenius: Well said

    Somewhere around 13% of our cap going towards Lucic and Buyouts. Geez Louise

  152. Andy Dufresne says:

    Looking at his fancies, I can’t see much to recommend Granlund.

    Nothing stands out. Bad at face offs. Is mostly a Winger not a Center.

    Dont know……

    Anyone see what his qualities are?

    He just turned 26 in April, so 2019 will be his 26 yr old season.

    He was getting alot of Dzone starts in the last two yrs.
    62.5 and 58.3

    And his takeaway ratio is positive 23 to 4 at evens.

    Stauffer said/hinted that they “might” look at a couple of inexpensive Dave Tippett “types” of players for the bottom six. Is Granlund a Tippet type? Guess so.

    Kenny Holland said he likes guys that have what he calls “motors” (like the terminator) an endless supply of energy and tenatiousness. Does Granlund have a “motor”?

  153. ArmchairGM says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Bought out players can’t re-sign with the team that bought them out for one season.

    🙁

  154. Professor Q says:

    Talbot getting a $2.75 million contract with the Flames.

  155. Reja says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Looking at his fancies, I can’t see much to recommend Granlund.

    Nothing stands out. Bad at face offs. Is mostly a Winger not a Center.

    Dont know……

    Anyone see what his qualities are?

    He just turned 26 in April, so 2019 will be his 26 yr old season.

    He wanted to come here.

  156. Ryan says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Looking at his fancies, I can’t see much to recommend Granlund.

    Nothing stands out. Bad at face offs. Is mostly a Winger not a Center.

    Dont know……

    Anyone see what his qualities are?

    He just turned 26 in April, so 2019 will be his 26 yr old season.

    12 goals would have been good for 6th on the Oilers last season. There’s that. He shot under 10%.

    At least he’s cheap, in his prime, and a 1-year contract. He was third in Toi/g on the Canucks in PK.

    Granllund doesn’t look like much of an add, but he appears to be an upgrade on Rieder.

  157. Andy Dufresne says:

    Ryan: Granllund doesn’t look like much of an add, but he appears to be an upgrade on Rieder.

    Ooooooooh, Is that a shot at Godot ?

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