2019-20 Game 52: Oilers at Flames

by Lowetide

The Edmonton Oilers won against the defending Stanley Cup champions at Rogers last night. The giant Leon Draisaitl had those feet moving and those heaven sent hands were pure magic. Everyone spent the All-Star layoff staring at that damnable schedule, and two games in this team is 1-0-1. Who are these guys?

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘I got a text from Wayne Gretzky that I’ve still got saved’: 8 years later, Sam Gagner reflects on his 8-point night.
  • New Lowetide: What’s next for Tyler Benson and William Lagesson after being called up by the Oilers?
  • New Lowetide:  Breaking down the Oilers’ 50-man list at the trade deadline and the changes expected to come
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Now it’s over’: With a new contract in hand, Zack Kassian ready to move on after Matthew Tkachuk fight
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers extend Zack Kassian, betting the power forward can continue to produce with Connor McDavid
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘That’s good for hockey’: Former Oilers weigh in on Battle of Alberta hype ahead of Tkachuk-Kassian meeting
  • Lowetide: Why the Oilers are more likely to trade Adam Larsson than Kris Russell
  • Jonathan Willis: PHWA Midseason Awards: Stars, snubs and what they mean for the year-end NHL Awards
  • Lowetide: Is there real trade deadline value in the Edmonton Oilers’ prospect pipeline?
  • Lowetide: ‘Connor McDavid: Whatever It Takes’ works as breaking news, drama and personality profile
  • Lowetide: Oilers prospects Evan Bouchard and Tyler Benson deliver best minor league performances in 20 years
  • Lowetide: What do Connor McDavid’s best lines tell us about his optimal linemates?
  • Jonathan Willis: An updated list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20
  • Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto gives Oilers a midseason spark, one of the best in team history
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Josh Archibald, Riley Sheahan show the upward trend of Ken Holland’s offseason moves for the Oilers
  • Lowetide: Post-Christmas performance spike has Evan Bouchard pushing for an NHL job with the Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers’ road forward — and perhaps to a Stanley Cup — requires trusting the kids on defence
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Deciding what to do with Darnell Nurse, Mike Smith, Tyler Benson and Evan Bouchard
  • LowetideKen Holland’s targets for his first trade deadline with the Oilers.
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland’s trade deadline options for the Oilers
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects list, winter 2019

OILERS AFTER 52 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 21-26-5, 47 points; goal differential -17
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 28-16-8, 64 points; goal differential +14
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 23-25-4, 50 points; goal differential -27
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 23-24-5, 51 points; goal differential -15
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 27-18-6, 60 points; goal differential +2

Edmonton’s win last night gives them second place in the Pacific Division, two points behind Vancouver. Calgary is tied in points with the Oilers, but the Flames have played one more game. The goal differential heavily favours Edmonton (+3 to -12).

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
  • Current 10 games: 1-0-0

That was an unexpected and impressive start to this 10-game stretch. If the Oilers can turn home games into a filthy battle with blood on the tracks against good teams, the bad teams that come to visit have no chance.

OILERS IN JANUARY

  • Oilers in January 2016: 4-3-2, 10 points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in January 2017: 6-3-0, 12 points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in January 2018: 4-5-0, eight points; goal differential -13
  • Oilers in January 2019: 5-4-0, 10 points; goal differential -3
  • Oilers in January 2020: 6-1-2, 14 points; goal differential +8

Absolute fire. January 2020 may be a turning point in this franchise’s long and interesting journey. No chance anyone could have known this roster could snap off a 6-1-2 January. I know they’ve had teams with more talent during the wander years. One stunning January fact: At five on five, Connor McDavid’s on ice goal differential was 7-5. Leon Draisaitl: 11-4. Riley Sheahan: 4-8. Gaetan Haas: 3-2. Sam Gagner: 2-1. Dave Tippett is finding balance, now Ken Holland needs to find McDavid a winger.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: CAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: SJS, NAS, CHI (Expected 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: TBY, FLA, CAR (Expected 1-1-1)
  • At home to: BOS, MIN (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: LAK, ANA, VEG (Expected 2-1-0)
  • At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 0-0-0

The Oilers hammered my prediction last month, so I’m a little more aggressive this time. Nothing crazy, but if the team covers this bet they’ll end February 35-23-7, good for 77 points in 65 games. That projects to 97 points, and would result in playoffs.

OILERS 2019-20

Coach Dave Tippett talked about keeping the same lineup tonight, meaning Tyler Benson and William Lagesson would sit. I see two possible changes, one a certainty and the other possible. Mike Smith will be in goal in Calgary. I think Jujhar Khaira might be in the pressbox, meaning Benson could see action (James Neal is questionable). All numbers five on five and via Natural Stat Trick.

LINE 1 Josh Archibald-Connor McDavid-Zack Kassian played 13:30, going 17-13 Corsi, 6-8 shots, no goals and 3-3 HDSC.

Josh Archibald scored a gorgeous empty-net goal, had one shot, 1-1 GV-TK and worked hard all night. Connor McDavid had three takeaways, won 11 of 19 faceoffs and needs a linemate shuffle. Zack Kassian had two HDSC. This line needs a twist.

LINE 2 Nuge-Leon Draisaitl-Kailer Yamamoto played 13:40, going 21-12 Corsi, 13-4 shots, 3-0 goals and 3-1 HDSC. This is the Oilers top line currently.

Nuge had two assists, five shots, one HDSC, and was determined in all areas. This might be the line he’s been waiting to play on his entire life. Leon Draisaitl had two goals, five shots, one HDSC, two giveaways and won 14 of 24 in the circle. Kailer Yamamoto had an assist, a HDSC, two takeaways. His backhand pass to Leon for the winning goal was a thing of beauty.

LINE 3 Sam Gagner-Gaetan Haas-Alex Chiasson played 7:34, going 12-6 Corsi, 6-3 shots, no goals and 1-2 HDSC.

Sam Gagner recently reminds me of that period in the 2005-06 regular season when Michael Peca finally figured out what MacT wanted. Completely different players of course but Gagner had two shots, one HDSC, a takeaway and was aggressive. He’s playing a little like Yamamoto and having success. Gaetan Haas has one thing he does very well now, that’s getting in on the forecheck and arriving early. Great skill. He isn’t doing anything offensively yet but that may come. Alex Chiasson had two shots, a penaly one giveaway and a takeaway, and some promising sorties but couldn’t cash. One sequence saw him drive down the left wing and try to get a pass to the slot, but those St. Louis Blues defensemen are a wall on those plays.

LINE 4 Jujhar Khaira-Riley Sheahan-Patrick Russell played 6:58, going 8-11 Corsi, 3-4 shots, 0-2 goals and 0-4 HDSC.

Jujhar Khaira had another tough night, sending a pass back deeper into the Oilers zone instead of getting it out. Later, he had the puck on his stick seconds before the Blues scored the second goal, but had vapor lock. Every game he plays feels like it might be his last one in the organization. Khaira might have to head to the minors for a reset. Riley Sheahan had one shot, drew a penalty, won five of seven on the dot. Patrick Russell had a couple of hits, took a couple of hits, and did some good work along the offensive wall that didn’t amount to any scoring opportunities.

PAIRING ONE Oscar Klefbom and Adam Larsson played 19:06, going 18-26 Corsi, 7-13 shots, 0-1 goals and 1-7 HDSC. Pairing faced the Perron-O’Reilly-Sanford line for over seven minutes, 3-10 shots and 1-5 HDSC. That line was a nightmare.

Oscar Klefbom had three shots on goal and played a sound two-way game under difficult circumstances. Adam Larsson was absolute filth, blocking shots and hammering Blues with abandon. I’m a fan. The GA for this pairing was the Perron goal, just wicked hand-eye by the Blues winger despite Oscar doing all he could. I thought this pairing had a fine game.

PAIRING TWO Darnell Nurse and Ethan Bear played 17:12, going 22-16 Corsi, 10-8 shots, 0-1 goals and 3-3 HDSC.

Darnell Nurse had four shots, one HDSC and skated miles. He had a late shot on goal that might have been enhanced if he had driven to the net before shooting. Instead, a harmless shot from the blue line. Ethan Bear had one shot, created a rebound but also had three giveaways. This pairing was on for the second goal, spent time chasing and had a brief chance to clear but Khaira couldn’t corral the puck.

PAIRING THREE Caleb Jones and Matt Benning played 11:52, going 22-7 Corsi, 13-3 shots, 3-0 goals and 3-1 HDSC. What an incredible numbers set from a third pair.

Caleb Jones scored a goal, looked calm and played with confidence. Had three giveaways, that St. Louis forecheck is overwhelming. Matt Benning had an assist and is back to outscoring opponents. He’s either a plus minus genius or the luckiest man alive.

GOALIE Mikko Koskinen had a fine night, stopping 30 of 32 shots, .938. Hadn’t played in some time but made some great stops.

It’s today! Join us around 7:15 for the pre-game Q&A, in the previous events this has been a great experience. It’s a chance to talk about what you’d like to see in The Athletic, and honestly the coverage has changed because of your input in these sessions. We’ll tell each other lies and watch a great hockey game. See you there!

JUJHAR KHAIRA

He had just two shifts after the Blues scored their second goal, but that’s kind of overstating it because his linemates (Sheahan had just three, Russell just one) didn’t play much either. Still, this feels like a player who requires what Craig MacTavish used to call a second opinion (a new start in a new town).

Last night, Edmonton’s LW’s were a hodgepodge and Khaira should have been one of the options for increased time. He played 14 shifts, trailing Nuge (23) and Archibald (22) badly, and a few shy of Gagner (17).

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oilsnc79

v4ance,

2. Game of the decade….
Been around oil since the beginning, best game I’ve watched in 35 years.

dangilitis

dangilitis,

I disagree. He was by far the better goalie in the 2nd period. If it was Koskinen vs Rittich,based on last nights play, it could have been 8-1 or 9-1 after the 2nd

wintoon

Did anyone else notice that Tkachuk, the fearless warrior , got into a couple of fights last night. Did he choose to go after anybody that is tough, any body that is big? No.

The turtle went after Ethan Bear and Gaetan Haas. Both are basically rookies and it was the first fight in the NHL for each of them.

Yup that #19 sure is the heart and soul of the Calgary Flames. Perhaps he is really Upchuk.

GordieHoweHatTrick

Sweet, sweet game.

geowal

Sportsnet replaying the game right now – beauty. Missed most of it

ArmchairGM

Draisaitl is the fastest to reach 80 points since Mark Messier in 1989-90.

Wow.

jake70

Just finished watching. Well that was boatload of fun.

v4ance

Quick Poll:

1) Game of the year

2) Game of the Decade

Wilde

Bakersfield Condors vs. Stockton Heat; February 2nd, 2020; deployment

Gambardella – Granlund – Currie
Esposito – Cave – Maksimov
McLeod – Malone – Hebig
Stukel – Starrett – Peluso

Lowe – Bouchard
Kulevich – Day
Samorukov – Desharnais

After 20

18CF-9CA
12FF-4FA
1GF-0GA

Top F: Gambardella (1.16 Game Score)
1 shot, 1 shot assists
1 goal
8CF-5CA
6FF-2FA
1GF-0GA

Top D: Kulevich (0.52 Game Score)
3 shot attempts, 2 shot assists
8CF-3CA
6FF-0FA
0GF-0GA

OriginalPouzar

Given the flames only have 17 regulation wins (Oilers 24, Canucks 23) and are -17 in goal differential – are they really a tier below team?

v4ance

norm_klassen:
Rolled my truck today on highway 43 so this is a consolation!

Hope all that was damaged was the truck!

As the game started I was in the lobby of a hospital waiting to be admitted. 5 hrs earlier, I was on my way to work … late… and tried to go for a light but changed my mind at last minute. Remember The 40 Year old Virgin? Same thing but without a billboard truck. I did a full 270 over the handlebars and went from vertical to right on my ass in 1 sec lying in the intersection.

I set up for a work event to hold a viewing party for the BoA. It actually wasn’t supposed to be a viewing party tonight but I said if Superbowl is tomorrow, why not preset one day and let people enjoy the Battle too? I didn’t want to leave til they were set but the instant the setup was completed, I walked to the hospital and got a strong confirmation that I have a torn left rotator cuff that was aggravated by my 9.9 tumble (9.8 from the Russian judge).

After the hospital, I went back to work to collect my gear and limped out into a blizzard that started not 2 minutes earlier. I bet the blizzard started right when the “fist-ivities” started at the end of the 2nd period. Got home, put an ice pack on the shoulder and watched the game on PVR and tried not to raise both arms for every goal but the pain was worth it 8 times! I usually delete all the old games on the PVR during a losing streak but I think this game will be a long term keeper!

Watching Peplinski on After Hours, I gotta say, he’s a great guy in person to work for. He’s done a ton of MC work for The Flames Foundation since his retirement and he’s gotten really good on the mic!

Jethro Tull

Hope you are ok!

I’m a mountain biker. This year I was riding in the hills behind Walmart in Peace River. I was traversing a steep one on a deer trail and hit a rock. Went arse over tea kettle. Got the handle bar end under the ribs and some road rash. Bruised something inside.

Worst thing was I threw my helmet on frustration and then realized I had to quickly stop it before it took off down the hill.

I hope Tkachuk also bruised a kidney or something.

My winter biking activities are limited to buying parts and looking at holidays to Moab.

OriginalPouzar

Nit64:
The head to head tie breaker excludes the Flame’s extra home game at season start. So Flames can still lose the head to head tiebreak 4-5.

Flames have 7 less regulation wins than the Oilers, yes, 7.

Given regulation wins are the first tiebreak (and I think ROWs the 2nd), i don’t see that coming in to play.

N64

Agreed and pointed out same up thread re: goal differentials not mattering due to RW!

Was pointing out that Oil can still win the bragging rights to the official H2H

Rooting for Yotes and Hawks to grab the WC. Pacific top tier right now looks like in no particular order Edmonton, Vegreville, and the Dys

OriginalPouzar

kgo:
I just heard Jack Michael’s call on the postgame show….What the FACK was I doing listening to that clown Dave Randorf instead of Jack….never again

I’m just about to head to the hotel gym, off 2.5 hours sleep because of this game, excited to listen to Bruce and Dave on the Cult of Hockey Podcast but also to listen to Reid and Rob on Overtime with Jack “highlights’ in there.

OriginalPouzar

jp:
Jim Peplinski seems like a hell of a solid guy.

Does very well for himself in business and, yes, I’ve been to lunch with him, he is a solid guy.

OriginalPouzar

Zelepukin:
mark my words, Yamo will score 30 in the NHL, especially playing with those 2.

For the first 7-8 games we were thinking (or lots of us were thinking), yup, he’s a legit NHL player, a legit middle 6 guy but maybe not a true top 6 guy, at least not right now.

After last night, although I know the sample size was small, however, the only thing that stopped him from being the best player on the ice was Leon Draisaitl being the best player in the league.

What a couple of games by Kailer – he was unreal good last night.

Here is hoping he takes great care of that body and keeps building his strength as he becomes a man because durability is the only issue – can he consistently play that way night in and night out?

Zelepukin

And I would say his true confidence with the puck is starting to show. There were a couple break-outs where he was surrounded by 3 Flames in the neutral zone, puck on his stick and he still went full-tilt towards the net, head up and keeping an eye on any late support man. Only really Drai, McD and Nuge do that. The Yamo 8 games ago would have done what every other normal forward would do and either think delay or dump it into the corner.

OriginalPouzar

Ryan: Imagine if you were Holland..

Man, jacked on all this adrenaline. I’d be calling Dorian till he woke up and picked up the phone.

Dammit Dorian. Wake the blank up. I want Pageau and DuClair or Brown on a plane to Edmonton on Monday.

Yah, just tell me what it’s going to take.

Epic game!

I wonder if Holland may get the sense that a “major move” isn’t required and to look a tier down at Granlund or even a few tiers down at Craig Smith

OriginalPouzar

Professor Q:
See, Original Pouzar.

And you wanted to send P. Russell down!

I didn’t want him sent down, did I? I wouldn’t be against him siting for Benson

Bulging Twine

Watching replays Draisatl stared down Rittich after at least 3 goals.

An angry Drai is good

godot10

Side: I can confirm that it was a good game.

We finally agree on something! -)

Side

The Oilers beating the Flames brings everyone together!

Bulging Twine

Nit64: Rittich getting beat down some more was after the goaler fight was the ? on top of the ?

We couldn’t even have made this up

GB&Q

LMHF#1,

European Sbowtime!

Ribs

Super solid game. Wow. If there’s any chance they can get a consistent effort identical to tonight’s, we could be talking about something special. Blueline was moving pucks with efficiency all night. Forwards were pressuring every Flame near the puck and all Oilers were covering any and all passing lanes. The goalies filled in the cracks well! A true delight to witness. Huzzah!

Hard not to cheer for a guy like Gagner in games like these. He’s in 110%. Love it.

P. Russell. What a pain in the ass he was all night!

Yamo buzzing around makes me think we’ve found our own Pageau when he plays like this.

Tippett is the man. Played this one perfectly.

Yahhh!!

Nix

Maybe the most I’ve ever been entertained from a hockey game.
Thrilled Haas scored on top of everything else..

Bank Shot

Side:
Robinson said in the post game he was going to be waiting for the next Flames/Oilers game so they can get some revenge.

The Oilers beat the Flames so bad the Flames feel they need to get revenge even though they are still up on the season series.

Flames may have gotten more points so far but damn, they had the most demoralizing loss.

I’m sure Buddy will really give the guys hell the next time he plays Bakersfield.

Side

Robinson said in the post game he was going to be waiting for the next Flames/Oilers game so they can get some revenge.

The Oilers beat the Flames so bad the Flames feel they need to get revenge even though they are still up on the season series.

Flames may have gotten more points so far but damn, they had the most demoralizing loss.

kgo

I thought Zac Rinaldo was supposed to be up next?

geowal

Next means different things to different folks evidently

N64

The head to head tie breaker excludes the Flame’s extra home game at season start. So Flames can still lose the head to head tiebreak 4-5.

nelson88

First live BOA in Calgary in 20 years. Hell of a game.

I was walking beside George Parros as he was coming off the catwalk at the end. Slapped him on the back and Said “ what did you think of that one George!” Quickly came to my senses and wondered what I was doing (big guy) but he was pretty good natured about it even as other oilers fans were chirping him

Side

Woodguy v2.0:
That was a good hockey game.

I can confirm that it was a good game.

N64

Gonna go out on a limb and say we don’t need to wait on Speeds this time

Ribs

CONFIRMED!

geowal

Just back from a night out, which included showing up at a brewery in Calgary just before the goalie fight (previous brewery had no tv) so that was a nice intro to the game!
Seemed like a hell of a retribution game.

kgo

I just heard Jack Michael’s call on the postgame show….What the FACK was I doing listening to that clown Dave Randorf instead of Jack….never again

Kraz

Just checked out flames nation to see what some flames fans are saying about that game. Man they were absolutely giving it to Lucic lol two physical games in a row and he was invisible. They have pretty much came to the conclusion of “buy him out no matter the cap implications”

Fuge Udvar

jp,

They are all wearing tons of make up….. Do you think that’s what +45 year old men normally look like on HD cameras?

Is it not possible she has just aged? Why is your first reaction that she must have had work done? I only bring this up because those egotistical, vain, blowhards on the panel are the ideal targets for plastic surgeons. Yet I never hear anybody question if they have had work done.

N64

JimmyV1965: Rittich getting pulled was the cherry on top.

Rittich getting beat down some more was after the goaler fight was the ? on top of the ?

Bank Shot

commonfan29:
Interesting quotes from Spector and Francis on Ward’s response to a Rishaug question:

Mark Spector
Ryan Rishaug asked Flames coach Geoff Ward if he was happy with Lucic’s contributions the last couple of games.
Strong question.
“Umm… You’re trying to get at something there, I’m not going there. I’ve got a long history with this player.. I’m not going there.”


Eric Francis
Geoff Ward when asked if he’s seen enough from Milan Lucic the last few games: “You’re trying to get at something there and I’m not going there. I have a long history with that player and he’s been good for us this year. I’m not going there.”

Is Spec editing stuff out with his dots, or is Francis making stuff up?

I’m betting on Spec editing things out. I don’t think Ward rolls Lucic under the bus like that when they know they are stuck with him for years.

It’s not a lack of effort or professionalism on Lucic’s part either.

JimmyV1965

More than anything, I think that game galvanized them as a team. They went to war for each other and came out stronger than ever. The Rittich stick flip might have been one of the most important team building events to happen this season. The boys were obviously pissed, looking at you Drai, and they came out flying and determined. Rittich getting pulled was the cherry on top.

Ivan

Derek,

Now THATS a gift!

Gerta Rauss

Johnny skid:
i didn’t see much of Johnny Gaudreautonight. It’s as if he didn’t even play.

ditto Lucic

Boil-in-the-Oil

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville:
Talbot might be still working undercover for the Oilers,by coming to fight Smith and getting him ejected might have ensured the win for the Oil.

I’m pretty sure Talbot did not want to be in net against the Oilers. We know where the treasure is hidden, and made him pay (in more ways than 1). The quickest way out, was to start that (losing) fight. Smooth move.

unca miltie

is it ok to say that I am happy to see my prediction from earlier today come true. love it.

commonfan29

Interesting quotes from Spector and Francis on Ward’s response to a Rishaug question:

Mark Spector
Ryan Rishaug asked Flames coach Geoff Ward if he was happy with Lucic’s contributions the last couple of games.
Strong question.
“Umm… You’re trying to get at something there, I’m not going there. I’ve got a long history with this player.. I’m not going there.”

Eric Francis
Geoff Ward when asked if he’s seen enough from Milan Lucic the last few games: “You’re trying to get at something there and I’m not going there. I have a long history with that player and he’s been good for us this year. I’m not going there.”

Is Spec editing stuff out with his dots, or is Francis making stuff up?

Suntory Hanzo

Just got out of the Sinead O’Connor concert and check the score.

Woot! Beat down.

Empty netter? Penalty shot??

Waiting for hilights and see there was a goalie fight?

Glad it was a great show otherwise I would have been super angry I missed it.

jenga66

Neal and Lucic both missed the game apparently.

prefonmich

On an unrelated note.. I watched a recently released documentary last night titled ‘WULLIE’ of course about Willie O Ree. It is well done and really timely with all the recent events in the NHL. The league is long overdue to address the racism that has been allowed to exist for far too long. Willie O Ree is an exceptional human being for how he managed the abuse he took and the impact he made. It’s worth seeing if you get a chance.

Johnny skid

i didn’t see much of Johnny Gaudreau tonight. It’s as if he didn’t even play.

dangilitis

Of all the BOA games I have personally watched, this is a close 2nd behind the 10-1 drubbing back in 1996. Utter domination, statement game, whatever you want to call it, they kicked their ass in every possible way.

Crazy Pedestrian

striatic: Oilers: We’re going to chase you, then have our goalie fight your backup so you have to come back, then we’re going to put two more in on you for good measure.

/thread

BONE207

That is a great quote.

prefonmich

Hes a great guy. I taught his daughter and he is as he seems on air. Hated him in the 80s though.

striatic

Sanderson:
The late 90’s playoff teams had no talent but made it up with a whole lot of ‘never say die’.The ’06 team still had that mentality.That team culture seemed to die in the decade of darkness.

I know there’s been a lot of chiding people saying Taylor Hall kills locker rooms, and I’ve never bought into it, but after seeing the Oilers, Devils, and now apparently the Coyotes implode after trading for the guy, it makes me really wonder.

jp

Jim Peplinski seems like a hell of a solid guy.

Boil-in-the-Oil

Hmmmm JP . . . Jim, is that you?