Satisfaction

by Lowetide

Oilers fans had a wild night while the team won on Tabernac Saturday in Calgary. It was an outstanding game, made even more impressive due to being the dreaded third game in four nights. That was a ‘chicken soup for the soul’ game for fans, an absolutely rocking 60 minutes that left everyone dizzy and satisfied. Who are these guys?

The Calgary Flames are a tough matchup for Edmonton, plus the agitating Matt Tkachuk seemed to get enough of the Oilers roster attention away from the obvious goal (two points!) to win the day. It was reversed last night. Edmonton were demons on the forecheck, Edmonton got off to the great start, Calgary reacted and the Flames burned out in spectacular fashion. What. a. game.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘I got a text from Wayne Gretzky that I’ve still got saved’: 8 years later, Sam Gagner reflects on his 8-point night.
  • New Lowetide: What’s next for Tyler Benson and William Lagesson after being called up by the Oilers?
  • New Lowetide:  Breaking down the Oilers’ 50-man list at the trade deadline and the changes expected to come
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Now it’s over’: With a new contract in hand, Zack Kassian ready to move on after Matthew Tkachuk fight
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers extend Zack Kassian, betting the power forward can continue to produce with Connor McDavid
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘That’s good for hockey’: Former Oilers weigh in on Battle of Alberta hype ahead of Tkachuk-Kassian meeting
  • Lowetide: Why the Oilers are more likely to trade Adam Larsson than Kris Russell
  • Jonathan Willis: PHWA Midseason Awards: Stars, snubs and what they mean for the year-end NHL Awards
  • Lowetide: Is there real trade deadline value in the Edmonton Oilers’ prospect pipeline?
  • Lowetide: ‘Connor McDavid: Whatever It Takes’ works as breaking news, drama and personality profile
  • Lowetide: Oilers prospects Evan Bouchard and Tyler Benson deliver best minor league performances in 20 years
  • Lowetide: What do Connor McDavid’s best lines tell us about his optimal linemates?
  • Jonathan Willis: An updated list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20
  • Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto gives Oilers a midseason spark, one of the best in team history
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Josh Archibald, Riley Sheahan show the upward trend of Ken Holland’s offseason moves for the Oilers
  • Lowetide: Post-Christmas performance spike has Evan Bouchard pushing for an NHL job with the Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers’ road forward — and perhaps to a Stanley Cup — requires trusting the kids on defence
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Deciding what to do with Darnell Nurse, Mike Smith, Tyler Benson and Evan Bouchard
  • LowetideKen Holland’s targets for his first trade deadline with the Oilers.
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland’s trade deadline options for the Oilers
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects list, winter 2019

OILERS AFTER 52 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 21-26-5, 47 points; goal differential -17
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 28-16-8, 64 points; goal differential +14
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 23-25-4, 50 points; goal differential -27
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 23-24-5, 51 points; goal differential -15
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 28-18-6, 62 points; goal differential +7

This year’s team is once again edging closer to the 2016-17 playoff team, something I didn’t foresee happening a month ago. Edmonton’s win last night means the team is solo second, two points ahead of the Flames with a game in hand.

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
  • Current 10 games: 2-0-0

I said that the Oilers would cover the bet if the team could grab three points in the first three games. Well, they did that, and then won the final game to go 2-0-1 out of the box after the All-Star break. Exceptional.

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in February 2017: 0-1-0, 0 points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in February 2018: 0-1-1, one point; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2019: 0-0-1, 1 point; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2020: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential +5

A monster start to February after a strong January. The Oilers are not following the scripts of previous seasons, thank God and Greyhound.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: CAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: SJS, NAS, CHI (Expected 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: TBY, FLA, CAR (Expected 1-1-1)
  • At home to: BOS, MIN (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: LAK, ANA, VEG (Expected 2-1-0)
  • At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 1-0-0, two points in one game

A brilliant start to a month that will see 14 games in 28 nights, there are some strong teams on the list but btb wins over St. Louis and Calgary represents a major accomplishment.

OILERS 2019-20

The top two lines had five goals and the bottom two lines popped two, the truth is there were no passengers. From the moment Nuge forced the play by aggressively forechecking through game’s end, Edmonton was on its toes, Calgary on its heels. Music! All numbers NST and all numbers five on five unless noted.

LINE 1 Nuge-Leon Draisaitl-Kailer Yamamoto played 10:54, going 17-7 Corsi, 10-6 shots, 2-0 goals and 3-0 HDSC.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins had a goal, five shots, two HDSC, forechecked like a demon, two takeaways, forced the issue at every turn. Leon Draisaitl had two assists (four in total), two shots, HDSC, two takeaways, won seven of 14. The big man leads the NHL in points. Kailer Yamamoto might have been the best player on the line. Seriously. His early goal combined anticipation, quickness, great hands and he didn’t stop there. Went 1-1-2 on the night, three shots, HDSC, penalty, two takeaways, and was a gigantic pain in the ass on the forecheck. My goodness what a hockey player.

LINE 2 Josh Archibald-Connor McDavid-Zack Kassian played 9:45, going 7-11 Corsi, 4-6 shots, 1-1 goals and no HDSC.

Josh Archibald had an assist, drew a penalty, and played a major role on the line’s goal. McDavid tied up the Calgary defender along the wall, allowing Archibald to grab it, use his time to find Kassian and send a lovely pass to 44, who cashed. Archibald has great utility. Connor McDavid scored a goal, had two shots, HDSC, and a power play goal. He brought all of the usual hammer of the God skills, but also a physical element. Awesome game. Notice his shot is finding the twine more often this year. Don’t know if it’s a harder shot, quicker release or if he’s changing angles, but he’s scoring from longer ranger this year to my eye. Made Noah Hanifin look like a saloon door. Kassian scored an early goal, had two shots and two giveaways. What’s more, he showed great maturity in not getting involved in the extra curricular activities that were going on. Impressive night.

LINE 3 Sam Gagner-Gaetan Haas-Alex Chiasson played 8:55, going 9-6 Corsi, 9-5 shots, 1-1 goals and 2-4 HDSC.

This trio did good things all night, even before the two goal breakout in the third period. Sam Gagner had two shots and two HDSC, and at four on four scored on a nice shot. He’s found a way to make himself valuable. Gaetan Haas had an assist, two shots, drew a penalty and won two of eight on the dot. He scored on a penalty shot, after having been mugged on the way to the net. Alex Chiasson had an assist, two shots and a HDSC. He has been delivering more often offensively of late.

LINE 4 Jujhar Khaira-Riley Sheahan-Patrick Russell played 8:55, going 11-7 Corsi, 7-3 shots, no goals and 3-1 HDSC.

Jujhar Khaira drew a penalty and played 1:34 effective minutes on the PK. Had the first fight of the night against Swift Buddy Robinson. Riley Sheahan had an assist, two shots, a takeaway and won two of nine in the dot. He was effective with the puck on his stick and probably should have been awarded with a couple of extra assists. Patrick Russell had six shots (!!) three HDSC (!!) and drew a penalty. A wonderful game from the fourth line.

PAIRING ONE Darnell Nurse and Ethan Bear played 15:52, going 22-11 Corsi, 12-8 shots, 1-1 goals, 4-0 HDSC. Spent almost 13 of the 16 minutes with 97 or 29’s line.

Darnell Nurse had two shots, took a penalty and picked up an assist on the power play. Slammed Tkachuk into the middle of next week and hauled ass to get to the bench to allow 97 the opportunity for his second goal. Ethan Bear had an assist, two shots and a giveaway. Also fought Matt Tkachuk.

PAIRING TWO Oscar Klefbom and Adam Larsson played 14:48, going 15-8 Corsi, 12-4 shots, 2-0 goals and 6-3 HDSC. Spent about 11 of 15 minutes with either 97 or 29.

Oscar Klefbom had an assist (two in total), a shot, HDSC and a giveaway. He played a strong game again, although I read a few comments about his indifferent play, but remember injuries early in the season have impacted foot speed. Adam Larsson had a strong game defending, wasn’t as filthy as normal but this was the third game in four nights.

PAIRING THREE Caleb Jones and Matt Benning played 12:07, going 15-11 Corsi, 14-7 shots, 2-0 goals and 2-2 HDSC.

Caleb Jones scored a goal and had three shots, he lost his mark on the Buddy Robinson goal but you’re going to have those things happen with rookies. The first two games for this pairing have been splendid. Matt Benning had a shot, defended well and helped keep this pairing out of danger.

GOALIE Mike Smith stopped 15 of 18, .833. Also got into a fight and delivered an epic hair flip that should be a meme by noon. Mikko Koskinen came in for the third period and stopped all eight shots he faced, including two HDSC.

Quick thoughts

I suggested three points out of these first three games would be reasonable, the Oilers grabbed five of six. Outstanding. Credit the players and the coaching staff, that was one of the best games I’ve seen from this Oilers team since the 2005-06 squad delivered brilliance each game. Enjoy this, savor it. What are these guys?

THE ATHLETIC EVENT

I have to say these events are awesome for me. I get to meet folks who have been reading or listening for years, and have connections to the game (met a young man whose father was an outstanding NHL ref for years) that remind me of just how important the game is to all of us. There’s another event on the way, sincere thanks for coming out, and thanks to Allison Currie who was an outstanding host.

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rickithebear

K. Holland likes to mature his Players.
Per first 35+gm season in Detroit for most players.

rickithebear

MacT:
GM: hired April 15 2013
Drafted Nurse, Draisaitl, Lagesson
Traded for Pit #16 (was going to take Barzal)
Won Mcdavid in the Lottery!
Fired as GM April 24, 2015

MacT & Bucky signed Benning, Caggulia.
These are facts or stated the Org.

Teams with the only RB with 90+ yds and 4.5+ yd/carry win 90% of playoff games.
Unless QB has a Poor passing TD: Int ratio (1:1 or less)

Congrats to the real MVP.
D. Williams Scorer of the Ginal 2 TDs.
Teams were

OriginalPouzar

digger50: I think you lead the way OP on illogical conclusions.

I think I generally provide basis for my conclusions.

Not sure the response above actually leads to a discussion on the hockey-related substance but, to me, provides more evidence of non-evidence for the position taken and it just been a statement without defence that may come true but is not determinable for years.

Scungilli Slushy

Munny: That’s kind of the point. Broberg is an absolute slam dunk to be a quality NHLer, likely a 2 or a 3.He’s not a slam dunk to be a Karlsson or a Letang, but he does have that ceiling.

We have depth, but for eg. Samorukov’s chances of being as good a Dman, while certainly non-zero, are nowhere near as good.

I can totally understand your point.But you can’t draft for need.If you think Broberg’s more likely to be a more useful defenseman than Zegras a forward, you draft the defenseman.I think the pick is somewhat risk-averse, sure, but not enough so that it deserves heavy criticism.The kid’s a real nice player.

Holland must have seen Bro as BPA, but strategically they aren’t deep enough anywhere else to deal from.

They can deal an NHL ready or less developed covered D and not miss a beat, and also D have more value than forwards unless they are definitely elite.

Munny

who: Broberg was an interesting pick.
The year before the Oilers picked Bouchard to fill a clear area of need. I would have been happy with either Bouchard or Dobson, but at least they picked one of them.
Broberg was added to a position of depth in the organization. I have to believe Holland felt he was a slam dunk at 8OV.

That’s kind of the point. Broberg is an absolute slam dunk to be a quality NHLer, likely a 2 or a 3. He’s not a slam dunk to be a Karlsson or a Letang, but he does have that ceiling.

We have depth, but for eg. Samorukov’s chances of being as good a Dman, while certainly non-zero, are nowhere near as good.

I can totally understand your point. But you can’t draft for need. If you think Broberg’s more likely to be a more useful defenseman than Zegras a forward, you draft the defenseman. I think the pick is somewhat risk-averse, sure, but not enough so that it deserves heavy criticism. The kid’s a real nice player.

slopitch

Woodguy v2.0: Sam won the life lottery.

Not only has he made ~36MM in his NHL career, he married an attractive woman who became a medical doctor and whose family”s money makes Sam’s look like change found in the couch.

She’s from Edmonton and I think Sam would sign fairly cheap to stay here.

I dont know many dentists who make 36m in their career 😉

Agree though. Sam lucked out. Rachel’s a gem. He’s also an NHL player. Thats life lottery alone.

Munny

Goal 1: Yamamoto cellies in mock-Rittich fashion, arms spread wide, accepting the glory, like he’s a WWF wrestler… yet a 5’7′ rook in the Flames barn.

Goal 2: The play that creates the goal is made by McDavid taking Brodie’s body and squeezing out the defender. The plays on the puck are solely made by Archie and Kassian, sans McDeity. (Also indicates these two should be able to score together on another line).

Goal 3: McDavid cellies like he interviews. Stoic, Laconic, Waiting-for-a-bigger-stage. Kassian parked on the doorstep contributed to how Rittich played the shot.

Goal 4: B2B McDeities. Louie was right about using his wrists and stick blade to hide his shot. Subtle AF. Like his cellies…

Insert: Lindholm goal… Smith’s good for a puck-playing, or belly-flop goal almost once a game. Fosbury was the mentor for this one.

Goal 5: It’s a Drai Heat… Since the AS Break, Drai’s feet have been as light as I’ve ever seen. Unholy feet. Incredibly agile for a big man. To the girl out there who’s responsible, you have my undying gratitude for the bounce in his step. I hope you and him sign long term.

Goal 6: Seeing-eye-single RBI, glad to see it come off Caleb’s bat. The team is building its depth as we speak. Pressure to this point in the second has been diamond-worthy.

Goal 7: Oh my Gord, there’s a goal 7 and we’re playing the Antichirists? Sweet Baby Jesus, this should be a golden rule. Puck perfectly placed by Young Gamgee on the shot.

Goal 8: And the game supplies the only thing it’s missing… a penalty shot. Haas embarrasses Rittich, bookending Yamamoto’s Goal 1… and we have the most complete game, on every level, played by the Oilers over the Phlegms in a very long time.

Swagger, it’s a thing.

who

Munny: Wasn’t the latest report on his Hockey IQ favourable?Post-WJC. that is.They were using him ways that requires intelligence. I recall reading very good things, but then, I’m a fan of the player, maybe I have it wrong.

I think the Broberg pick may have something to do with Broberg’s floor potentIal.He has decent upside, but with his combination of size and skating. he’s an absolute lock to be at minimum a mid-roster player.

I think it may also have a lot to do with Nurse’s next contract…

Broberg was an interesting pick.
The year before the Oilers picked Bouchard to fill a clear area of need. I would have been happy with either Bouchard or Dobson, but at least they picked one of them.
Broberg was added to a position of depth in the organization. I have to believe Holland felt he was a slam dunk at 8OV.

godot10

Broberg was the youngest defensemen on the Swedish World Junior team, with all of them high draft picks, and yet it was Broberg was was asked to fill a shutdown role on his offside.

In half a season, he has now moved into the top 4 on his Swedish team, if I understood SwedishPoster’s last report correctly.

godot10

Munny:

I think it may also have a lot to do with Nurse’s next contract…

You mean Klefbom’s next contract. Klefbom will be 30 in 3.5 years when his contract expires.

Genjutsu

Yep and with his heavy mins, injury history, likely high price point and the teams certain cap constraints it would be prudent to have an internal replacement.

He may not turn out to be a true 1LD. However with Nurse likely signed long term this summer and Bouchard near certainly handling 1PP in a 4F 1D set he really doesn’t have to be a #1D

Munny

digger50: Broberg right now has excellent skating with questionable hockey IQ. His offence is close to Klefbom, a bit behind.

Wasn’t the latest report on his Hockey IQ favourable? Post-WJC. that is. They were using him ways that requires intelligence. I recall reading very good things, but then, I’m a fan of the player, maybe I have it wrong.

I think the Broberg pick may have something to do with Broberg’s floor potentIal. He has decent upside, but with his combination of size and skating. he’s an absolute lock to be at minimum a mid-roster player.

I think it may also have a lot to do with Nurse’s next contract…

fishman

Cheifs win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Munny

*grumble grumble spits*

JimmyV1965

digger50: Holland would never have picked Broberg if his head wasn’t up his ass. There were much better players available, particularly for this club.,If we are lucky Broberg is another Nurse without physicality.

Lol.

Something something…Yamamoto critics say hi. Welcome to the club.

flyfish1168

Reja:
After the Flames loss in OT I didn’t think the Oilers had enough nasty in their line-up to slow down the cheap shot artist on the Flames holy smokes they were like a pack of Wolves last night everyone involved. Gagnergoing at Gio like a madman and Chases Glenn Anderson’s stick to Magiapane face, that was pure filth. Can’t wait for the Playoffs still hope Holland adds a 3C or forward with a dark side.

We need another Zack or two

duct tape and foil

Gags can come back next year on a small one year contract if he plays like that. Happy to have him back and I bet the team thinks the same. If he can play 40 games with 4th line intensity then his skills are a bonus. Been a joy watching him play every recent game like his last.

Neal is still very useful on the PP as he is a much better puck handler and passer than Chaser. He’s been hurt for a while now and they just need to shut him down until he’s healthy.

An idea for JP over the summer if a decent winger is not for sale. Maybe deal him for an established young backup goalie like Georgiev?

BornInAGretzkyJersey

godot10,

I’ve posted about the need for patience with KY a number of times. Here’s one example, my DDG-fu is weak, so I’m having a hard time finding other examples.

BornInAGretzkyJersey says:
July 16, 2019 at 10:59 am

pts2pndr,

I’d give the guy leeway AT LEAST through his ELC.

If you look at some comparable players to KY — small, skill players — you’ll find that they often take 4-6 years post-draft to really pop.

Guys like:

Martin St. Louis
Johnny Gaudreau
Nathan Gerbe
Tyler Ennis
Tyler Johnson

All come to mind. Yes Alex DeBrincat popped early but he’s more the exception than the rule.

Source:
https://lowetide.ca/2019/07/16/are-friends-electric/comment-page-1/

Side

godot10:
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=50313

Has Head Coach Todd McLellan coached every game on his schedule throughout his entire career?

No, he has not.

Do you know who substituted for Todd during his personal issues, illnesses and or injuries that caused Todd to miss games?

I’ll give you one guess.

And the answer will cause you to sweep this conversation under the rug again in the future.

who

v4ance:
Lost in the glow of the win and the fights, Smith had another bad game.In a way, his getting ejected for fighting sealed the win because he didn’t have a chance to let in any more goals and Koskinen was perfect in relief.

Last 10 games:

Score..Result..Smith Save %
8 – 3W0.833 (basement)
3 – 4OTL0.893 (bad)
7 – 3W0.900 (almost good)
4 – 2W0.938 (great)
4 – 2W0.946 (great)
6 – 4W0.889 (bad)
4 – 1W0.972 (great)
2 – 3OTL 0.885 (bad)
1 – 5 NA0.857 (relief appearance)
2 – 5L0.840 (cellar)

If you just looked at the save percentages, Smith deserves a 3-5-1 record

Instead he sports a 6-1-2 record with both overtime losses very winnable games if he makes but one more save in regulation.

The red hot Oilers are outscoring any and all mistakes he is making.I hope the coach and management to see that they are playing with fire relying on Smith because he is just not good enough on a consistent enough basis anymore.

Agreed.
Smith seems to be Tippets one blind spot. Koskinen has proven to be the better goalie but Smith seems to get a lot more rope.

Richard Roma

Woodguy v2.0: Hall

Thanks.

So Chayka is up the creek without a paddle.

A first and third against 55% odds of making the playoffs with an injured OEL and Kuemper.

I wonder if the stathlete flips Hall before the deadline.

Has something like this happened before?

digger50

OriginalPouzar: Seems like you have made conclusions that are impossible to know at this time.

The only logical conclusion is you think you know more about18 year old prospects across the hockey world than the old scout Ken Holland and his team?

I think you lead the way OP on illogical conclusions.

digger50

OilClog:
Holland was eye humping Broberg when he was still on Detroit ffs.

Maybe he wasn’t the most ideal selection for Oiler needs, but if he turns into a top pairing defender it won’t matter much.

Your assessment and terrible recognition on what to laugh out loud at is troublesome.

That’s the point, it seems you are almost smart enough to understand.

Holland made up his mind based on the needs of his former organization. Broberg right now has excellent skating with questionable hockey IQ. His offence is close to Klefbom, a bit behind.

When you reply to a post with a snarky remark and then “lol “it simply reads as condescending. That was your original reply.

Genjutsu

I’m not sure his offence is behind Klef’s.

He’s a better skater too and should be ready to replace him on a value contract when Klef’s contract ends.

Time will tell if it was the right pick but I can see what the thought was.

Jethro Tull

Anyone else hear the commentator call Jay Woodcroft “Tim Woodhead” last night?

BornInAGretzkyJersey

I believe it was Randorff, who mistakenly called Jay “Todd Woodcraft.”

Up to his usual standard, no doubt.

Jethro Tull

That was it! Todd Woodcraft. Excellent.

godot10

Side: I believe that same somebody also said this about Woodcroft:

“So the Oilers are going to give a guy who hasn’t coached a game in his life anywhere, the job in Bakersfield, a role crucial to developing young players.

Guys who want to coach are willing to ride the buses in the WHL and ECHL and AHL learning their craft, rather than living the high life in 4-star hotels and private team jets as an assistant coach in the NHL for over a decade.”

Just curious why you never bring up these comments of yours like you do to your other comments?

Is that the best you can do?

An observation that the Oilers hired someone to coach their AHL team who had never (head) coached a game in the life.

DevilsLettuce

You sure get spicy when your Blunt assessments turn out to be steaming piles.

Side

Just one example I found. I’m sure you have a lot more you know of that you swept under the rug, though.

And he had head coached games before, so there’s that. I think someone even corrected you on it before, too.

I’m seeing a pattern in your behaviour, here…

But I have to say.. those bus rides must have done Woodcroft wonders – they really taught him how to develop players well.

DevilsLettuce

The key is giving up window seat like it’s nothing.

DevilsLettuce

Terry Bradshaw was lost reliving Shakira up on stage, no worries I was too bud.

marty62

I dont have a problem with the stick flip by Riddich. That being said, he should know if you poke the old bear long and hard enough it gets angry and last night he had to face the consequences. Moral of story, karma is a bitch. If you want to showboat you have to remember to back it up. I hope Benson does get the tryout with Mcdavid, he thinks the game welll and would complement that line. Holland still has to go grab us some depth at forward at the deadline.

Side

godot10: I believe somebody might have said to just forget about him till January last September.

I believe that same somebody also said this about Woodcroft:

“So the Oilers are going to give a guy who hasn’t coached a game in his life anywhere, the job in Bakersfield, a role crucial to developing young players.

Guys who want to coach are willing to ride the buses in the WHL and ECHL and AHL learning their craft, rather than living the high life in 4-star hotels and private team jets as an assistant coach in the NHL for over a decade.”

Just curious why you never bring up these comments of yours like you do to your other comments?

Genjutsu

Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to?

😉

godot10

OriginalPouzar: I sure did – prior to September as well.

95-99% of the comparable players to Yamamoto (diminuative scorers in the WHL) in recent history needed significant AHL time. Eberle perhaps being the only exception. And Eberle did see AHL games at the end of his draft +1 and draft + 2 seasons, and played in the men’s world championship.

It is foolhardy to hope that it is different this time.

The thing about starting the year in the AHL is that the player can build momentum for a January recall.

A prospect loses that if they start in the NHL

Johnny skid

Side: #KassianDerangementSyndrome
#SideDerangementSyndrome
#DazedAndConfused
#JustAnotherGodotFictionPost

my thoughts as well.

Side

godot10: The Giordano clip on McDavid Wednesday was the straw that broke the camel’s back.The Oilers, like Side, had till then sort of believed Giordano’s fake remorse.

#KassianDerangementSyndrome
#SideDerangementSyndrome
#DazedAndConfused
#JustAnotherGodotFictionPost

BillyTheKidRanford

+1

OriginalPouzar

godot10: I believe somebody might have said to just forget about him till January last September.

I sure did – prior to September as well.

OriginalPouzar

digger50: Holland would never have picked Broberg if his head wasn’t up his ass. There were much better players available, particularly for this club.,If we are lucky Broberg is another Nurse without physicality.

Lol.

Seems like you have made conclusions that are impossible to know at this time.

The only logical conclusion is you think you know more about 18 year old prospects across the hockey world than the old scout Ken Holland and his team?

BornInAGretzkyJersey

What does the crowd think of Aaron Dell as a backup next year?

Reja

godot10: The Giordano clip on McDavid Wednesday was the straw that broke the camel’s back.The Oilers, like Side, had till then sort of believed Giordano’s fake remorse.

The masses are finally on to sneaky Gio he just used his get out of jail free card.

v4ance

Lost in the glow of the win and the fights, Smith had another bad game. In a way, his getting ejected for fighting sealed the win because he didn’t have a chance to let in any more goals and Koskinen was perfect in relief.

Last 10 games:

Score..Result..Smith Save %
8 – 3 W 0.833 (basement)
3 – 4 OTL 0.893 (bad)
7 – 3 W 0.900 (almost good)
4 – 2 W 0.938 (great)
4 – 2 W 0.946 (great)
6 – 4 W 0.889 (bad)
4 – 1 W 0.972 (great)
2 – 3 OTL 0.885 (bad)
1 – 5 NA 0.857 (relief appearance)
2 – 5 L 0.840 (cellar)

If you just looked at the save percentages, Smith deserves a 3-5-1 record

Instead he sports a 6-1-2 record with both overtime losses very winnable games if he makes but one more save in regulation.

The red hot Oilers are outscoring any and all mistakes he is making. I hope the coach and management to see that they are playing with fire relying on Smith because he is just not good enough on a consistent enough basis anymore.

godot10

Reja:
After the Flames loss in OT I didn’t think the Oilers had enough nasty in their line-up to slow down the cheap shot artist on the Flames holy smokes they were like a pack of Wolves last night everyone involved. Gagnergoing at Gio like a madman and Chases Glenn Anderson’s stick to Magiapane face, that was pure filth. Can’t wait for the Playoffs still hope Holland adds a 3C or forward with a dark side.

The Giordano clip on McDavid Wednesday was the straw that broke the camel’s back. The Oilers, like Side, had till then sort of believed Giordano’s fake remorse.

Reja

After the Flames loss in OT I didn’t think the Oilers had enough nasty in their line-up to slow down the cheap shot artist on the Flames holy smokes they were like a pack of Wolves last night everyone involved. Gagner going at Gio like a madman and Chases Glenn Anderson’s stick to Magiapane face, that was pure filth. Can’t wait for the Playoffs still hope Holland adds a 3C or forward with a dark side.

Genjutsu

One thing about players like Neal and Chase will bring more value with their size and physical play in the playoffs.

godot10

jm363561:
Kailer Yamamoto stat:11 games into the NHL part of his season, he has tallied 5-5-10, +11, with all the points coming at even strength and all the assists being primary helpers.

I believe somebody might have said to just forget about him till January last September.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

You were optimistic.

I have been saying not to expect anything for him until draft +4 at the earliest since he was drafted. My timeline was loosely based on the development history of small skill players like St. Louis, Gaudreau, Ennis, Johnson and Gerbe.

Genjutsu

Well played, sir.

Munny

Because I enjoy my perverse satisfactions in life, I tuned into Flames Radio post-game last night.

Oh how Flames fans’ anger can feed the soul.

Gaudreau, Monahan. Lucic, Backlund, Kylington and Hanifin were getting a lot of rage aimed their way.

digger50

OilClog:
Holland trading his 1st pick as the Oilers GM 8 months into it, what’s being offered Eichel? Lol

Holland would never have picked Broberg if his head wasn’t up his ass. There were much better players available, particularly for this club.,If we are lucky Broberg is another Nurse without physicality.

Lol.

Yeti

digger50: Holland would never have picked Broberg if his head wasn’t up his ass. There were much better players available, particularly for this club.,If we are lucky Broberg is another Nurse without physicality.

Lol.

No, Broberg’s potential top end is considerably higher than Nurse. He might not make it, but that’s the potential. True, if he doesn’t make it, he doesn’t have Nurse’s physicality to fall back on.

DevilsLettuce

Holland was eye humping Broberg when he was still on Detroit ffs.

Maybe he wasn’t the most ideal selection for Oiler needs, but if he turns into a top pairing defender it won’t matter much.

Your assessment and terrible recognition on what to laugh out loud at is troublesome.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

ChiliChunk,

Turtle was taking a lot of heat in the game review thread at fLamesnation. Jenny Hockey too, Sneaky Gio and Notaman all got the finger pointed at them for not bringing enough compete or crust. “Lucy” seemed to get a pass from many comments that I read, which I thought amusing.

Woodguy v2.0

CrazyCoach:
Hey folks,

Loved that game last night.It is nice to see some prospects work out like Yamamoto and Bear.

It has been a fun month of hockey.

Here’s to more.

Ben!!!!

Long time brother.

Your tweet last night brought the house down.

Well done.

Woodguy v2.0

Richard Roma:
How about that resplendent beauty, Chayka.

Dom currently has the Yotes at a 55% chance to make the playoffs.

Good gord, what are the conditions on the two picks he traded for Hall?

The 2020 1st is top 3 protected so if ARI misses and wins a top 3 slot the pick moves to 2021.

The 2021 3rd round pick becomes a 2nd if Hall re-signs in ARI OR ARI wins a playoff round this year and becomes a 2021 1st if both conditions happen.

Genjutsu

Dom’s model looks as far off as his prediction of team waivers being vastly superior to Oilers forwards so i wouldn’t think ARI makes it.

Hell if they keep sliding there’s every chance Hall goes at the deadline.

Poor rotten luck: a few key injuries is all it takes in this league.

jm363561

Kailer Yamamoto stat: 11 games into the NHL part of his season, he has tallied 5-5-10, +11, with all the points coming at even strength and all the assists being primary helpers.

russ99

Its nice to have a roster with NHL options instead of three quarters of a roster and try and squeeze players that aren’t good enough in.

We’ll need all of Neal, Benson, Russell and Jones the rest of the way and into the postseason, hopefully.

Some biases or how preferred player types are good and those that don’t fit that loose definition are useless should go away. A good exciting competitive team should be enough, we need to learn to enjoy and not gripe.

digger50

I really hopeBenson looks good in the Arizona game. We really need to know if he can be better than what we have.

I feel the team is close, as I did in summer. I wanted more help in the summer and didn’t get it. Yet they did get it in the form of excellent penalty kill and now even more separation of the bottom six. Keepers separating from depth options.

Jessi P was supposed to be our missing piece.

And I do think Holland changes his mind on Broberg if he had a better understanding of the team. Matter of fact I’d be watching Broberg really closely as he could be the trade piece to bring in a difference making forward.

Tough to make money work today and looking forward but things are looking like we are good and close to excellent. If Jessie or Jessie’s replacement could be a difference maker….

And if we could do one great trade and bring in a cost controlled third line center!!!

Loved Yammer in last three games, what a revelation. Same with Bear and Jones. Benson and Lagesson on deck, oh my

DevilsLettuce

Holland trading his 1st pick as the Oilers GM 8 months into it, what’s being offered Eichel? Lol

godot10

Broberg is Klefbom’s replacement in 4 years. A smooth transition from Klefbom-Nurse to Nurse-Broberg on left D. Broberg basically helps guarantee the left side of the defense for the entirety of McDavid’s contract.

Genjutsu

Yeah im pretty sure they have him penciled in the orginization for 12 years or so.

jm363561

Chris:
Is it too much to ask to try Benson on McDavid’s wing? I know there is some foot speed issues, but he’d be the only ‘slow train’ on the line. If Edmonton were to get a decent winger for McDavid, this team would be Stanley Cup contenders.

Totally agree. The bottom Six is doing just fine without a new 3C. The only line that needs a fix is Connor’s. (On the other hand, it is always tough for a coach to change a winning team).

Woodguy v2.0

Dustylegnd: He has figured out what Tippled wants form him and thus has become very useful, at this point his options are Europe and I am guessing little else, if Tippled can sign him for 750 K x 2….there may be a fit, otherwise sail on Sam Wise

Sam won the life lottery.

Not only has he made ~36MM in his NHL career, he married an attractive woman who became a medical doctor and whose family”s money makes Sam’s look like change found in the couch.

She’s from Edmonton and I think Sam would sign fairly cheap to stay here.

Munny

What a weekend.

Epic victory last night… I had to re-watch long stretches of the game the Oil looked so good.

And today my Niners finally play in the Superb Owl with a decent coach, defense and QB… first time since 1994 with a real team.

They are going to pummel KC like the Oil did to the Flames last night.

Woogie63

Ice Sage:
mmmmK… a few of those players preceded Chia Pete.Just Drai and Nuge though, no biggie.
Just add Barzal or -this hurts – Tkachuk instead?

Correct on Nuge

You have to give Pete the credit for the Driasaitl and McDavid contracts.

Draisaitl’s contract got some panning in the moment.
McDavid for the full 8 years is looking pretty smart.

DevilsLettuce

No, his credit has been revoked.

jm363561

Credit also for the Yamo choice. If they had hired Chia as head of amateur recruiting …..

OriginalPouzar

Nucks lose in a SO so they grab a point to move 3 up on the Oil but the Oil have a game in hand.

Things will look so good after yet another regulation win on Tuesday against the Yotes.

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