Sudden Impact

by Lowetide

The 2018 draft delivered quality and quantity for the Edmonton Oilers. Three players are already in the NHL, and a fourth (Olivier Rodrigue) is knocking on the door. Last night in Dallas, Evan Bouchard was the offensive star for the winners, twice delivering an accurate and heavy shot that found twine. He ranks No. 5 in points among all NHL defensemen (14-36-50 in 51 games) and is on pace for 80 points and more than 20 goals. A quick aside: Credit to The Draft Analyst for ranking Mike Kesselring in his draft year.

THE ATHLETIC!

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: VEG, ANA, LAK (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-2-0)
  • At home to: DET (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • On the road to: STL, DAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: BOS, MIN, CAL, LAK, STL (Expected 3-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-4-1, 15 points in 12 games
  • Actual February results: 3-3-0, 6 points in 6 games
  • Oilers in 2023-24: 32-18-1, 65 points in 51 games

The Oilers won a big game yesterday deep in the heart of Texas and are now on a 105-point pace. The Oilers now have a higher winning percentage than the Vegas Golden Knights. Second place in the Pacific means home-ice advantage and that could be the difference this spring.

THE NUMBERS

I’m getting a Patrick Maroon vibe from Corey Perry’s work on the Connor McDavid line. The veteran winger drove to the net with his stick on the ice, interrupted progress for the opposition and didn’t let the play die on his stick. I know the Oilers are in the market for an additional right wing, but a depth chart of Zach Hyman, new RW, Perry and Derek Ryan would allow Warren Foegele to play LW. That depth chart might be Evander Kane, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Foegele and Mattias Janmark or Dylan Holloway after the deadline.

The center depth chart is likely McDavid, Leon Draisaitl, Ryan McLeod and a RH acquisition. If that happens, it’s possible Holloway would be the odd man out. Holland may have to trade a middle-six forward at the deadline to make room.

At even strength, the top line had four points, five HDSC and drew two penalties. I think they’ll get another game together.

The second line (Kane-Nuge-Hyman) had a couple of HDSC and Nuge picked up a PK assist, but none of these men push the river and that’s going to be an issue. Hyman made a neutral zone pass to Evander Kane that was jaw-dropping. The man has skill. Suspect we see Leon return to the second line by the end of February. I thought Foegele had a good game, he was aggressive, worked hard and smart in Dallas. Derek Ryan scored a huge goal, I thought Connor Brown had some good moments while being also in photo a couple of times.

Evan Bouchard was the most effective defenseman, I was also impressed with both Darnell Nurse and Mattias Ekholm’s work overall. Cody Ceci had his moments with the puck, but the Dallas style of forechecking allowed stretch passes along the wall so outlets were relatively easy. I thought Vincent Desharnais had some wobble in his game, but was also impressed with his physicality.

The Oilers have a guy now (Desharnais) who can settle the score in-game and it’s effective. The man is a menace and gets the opposition’s attention. I’ll take the defensive missteps if they don’t overwhelm the game, and his 5-2 goal share five-on-five in the last 10 games suggests the video evidence does not in fact reflect overall production.

Calvin Pickard was giving out rebounds too often and stopping 50 percent of the high dangers isn’t grand, but he has been winning hockey games and is the owner of a .921 five-on-five save percentage.

BAKERSFIELD CONDORS

The Condors played last night, but not well. Bakersfield is not the same team without Philip Broberg and last night lack of discipline cost the team. It’s interesting to look at the prospects and offensive totals over the last 10 games.

  • Raphael Lavoie 10, 4-4-8
  • Philip Broberg 7, 0-4-4
  • James Hamblin 5, 1-2-3
  • Tyler Tullio 6, 2-1-3
  • Max Wanner 10, 1-2-3
  • Matvey Petrov 9, 1-1-2
  • Xavier Bourgault 10, 1-1-2
  • Carter Savoie 10, 1-1-2
  • Jayden Grubbe 9, 0-0-0

The wingers who are either rookies or sophomores in Bakersfield are ponderous. Ponderous. If there was an expansion draft tomorrow, and these were the available options, the first three picks would be Philip Broberg, Raphael Lavoie and Max Wanner. I think the coaching staff has too many players who need playing time and so none of them is well served. I don’t blame the coaching staff, suspect management needs to cull the herd. The problem? Who do you keep? First-round picks usually get favoured in this scenario but Xavier Bourgault can’t buy a goal. Condors play tonight, one of these cats badly needs to breakout.

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OriginalPouzar

Test.

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Colorado smokes Bakersfield 5-2, getting 44 SOG.

Of the 7 goals & 11 apples, among the U25 set, only 22 YO Avs prospect Ivan Ivan appears on the Scoresheet with 1 goal.

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Dee Dee

If the Penguins miss the playoffs the Oilers should rent Sidney Crosby.

50% salary retained, for Campbell plus some youth, and future considerations.

Then in the summer trade him back.

Could make it worth their while.

Start a new trend.

winchester

Lol. Puljujarvi smokes Byfield face first into the boards. in typical Jessie fashion he’s too big to be in full control, didn’t mean to do it. He’s Having a decent game.

samIam

So, combining the news stories of the past few days…

Was Calgary asking for Broberg in a Tanev trade? I can only assume Ceci would have also had to go the other way.

OriginalPouzar

Ryan Holt

@CondorsHolty

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1h

Lane Pederson is good to go tonight. Condors will be without Markus Niemelainen as the team will play their only 18 healthy bodies tonight. Everyone not playing is injured.

The early intel was that Pederson’s injury could be serious so this is good news. Petrov, Grubbe, Nimeo, Broberg all out hurt

fishman

Is Pederson a guy who could play 4C and PK on the big club?

OriginalPouzar

He isn’t a material PK guy at the AHL level – he won’t kill at the NHL level – could he play 4C over Ryan? I guess, maybe – it would be a different look to the line, that’s for sure

John Chambers

This week Stauffer referenced the Ryan O’Reilly / Noel Acciari trade where they fetched two players for a 1st round pick. Said that was a possible option for the Oilers.

Washington couldn’t give away Anthony Mantha this past summer, but if they were to retain half AND add in Nick Dowd, you could justify spending a 1st. Probably need another 4th to broker Mantha’s salary down to ~1.5M

TheGreatBigMac

Either of those deals would be great. I imagine the asking price is higher. Hope it’s more of a buyers market and we can get a package like that.

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GB&Q

i’m warming up to Gregor’s idea for a deal with WSH – the return being Nic Dowd and Beck Malenstyn (who are linemates). Malenstyn also a former Skinner teammate on the SC Broncos

Yukon Jerk

Not a bad idea at all,
But only of they are offering Janmark, 2nd round pick, lesser prospect etc.
Oilers have a first round pick & enough cap space for a top 6 scoring winger.
Is that not the greater need?
Plus it helps with bottom 6 depth, something needed for any measure of post season success, especially against Vegas.
Does Nic Dowd move the needle enough for that?

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Dowd is on a fantastic contract through next season, 3/4 RHC who plays a rugged style and can skate. Absurd deployment against elites (43.3%) and outscores for his troubles, to the tune of 70%.

So, yes, you could say Dowd moves the needle.

Yukon Jerk

Holy Shit,
Hire this man!

GordieHoweHatTrick

It was an astute move of Knobby to put Pickard in yesterday. While the players will tell you they are good to go with either G, make no mistake, they are going to be more attentive to details when the backup is in against a very strong offensive team. And they clearly needed to be more attentive to details given the sloppiness of the past few games. This roster decision brought the team back to playing more responsibly than other games since the break (and a few just before). Now they just have to play that way consistently (again), like they were when they were on the streak.

Nice to see below that Brown is possibly sitting down again for the next game. He has been very good usually on the PK, but not much else. I like the look of the line-up and as discussed obtaining a top 6 RW without giving up too much of the future would be the top trade deadline move. 2nd pairing RD would be nice, but may not be possible to obtain without giving up too many assets.

It is now clear Broberg doesn’t leave for a rental. Which is excellent to hear. He is certainly very good insurance as 6/7 D in the playoffs and ideal to replace Kulak on the roster next year. He is however still one of their most valuable trade assets, if a RD or RW with term come back, I could see it happen….it would be painful b/c we are all rooting for him!

doritogrande

A quick aside: Credit to The Draft Analyst for ranking Mike Kesselring in his draft year.

I give them no credit unless they release their evidence that the 399th ranked prospect was the superior player. To go 400 deep in a draft that only picked 217 (apologies for missing any compensatory picks) is a bit outlandish.

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OriginalPouzar

Per Stauff:

The @EdmontonOilers practice in Scottsdale this morning:

Draisaitl-McDavid-Perry
Kane-RNH-Hyman
Janmark-McLeod-Foegele
Gagner-Holloway-Ryan
Brown

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Ceci
Kulak-Desharnais

Skinner
Pickard

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OP the wife will be at Mullet to watch the game live.

Tarkus

You are happy to know that YYC is much warmer today.

OriginalPouzar

My goodness – that is a GREAT draft but, damn on Kesselring.

I know, futures is the price of business when trying to load up for a cup run but I said, on the date of the Big Dick Bjugstad trade, that I did not like the Dineen/Kesselring swap inclusion (which I presume was the price for the retention).

Scungilli Slushy

I’m ok with K going. He’s heavily sheltered and there is already Bouch

I was less of a fan in getting Bjug. He’s ok I guess I don’t think he’s as good as some do. I do lean to skating players especially for The Oilers. Huge slower guys get exposed unless your team is built around stifling D which ours isn’t. Or shouldn’t be given the nature of the best players

Good D isn’t exactly the same as just clogging all the zones up where being huge helps

OriginalPouzar

Kesselring isn’t sheltered any more at 5 on 5 than Vinny is – playing about the same percent of TOI vs. elites with similar effects (not positive goal share).

Scungilli Slushy

The graph shows the usage spread is far higher on the Yotes than Oilers, so he’s ’more’ sheltered. MK’e results aren’t bad but what we see is Knobby trusts Des more than MK’s coach trusts him. At least for now

who

I think the biggest need is top 6 winger, and I think Foegele will be going the other way if the Oilers acquire one.
There’s got to be salary going out if someone is coming in and Foegele is the easiest guy to replace on the 3rd line.
Perry is fine as a stop gap, but no way he can play the minutes you need to play to hang with McDavid and Draisaitl.

Victoria Oil

I would like to see a 2nd line winger added and maybe a 4C. I don’t see the need to spend assets on a depth D as we already have Broberg as #7 and Gleason as #8. Was impressed with both of them when I saw them in person last month. That said a Ceci upgrade may be helpful if the cost isn’t prohibitive. No need to spend assets on a goaltender either as we have 4 that are playing well at the moment (last night’s Condors game notwithstanding).

OriginalPouzar

Nope, he can’t play those minutes but he can do what he did last night included being subbed off for some shifts here or there (Brown gone one, Foegele got one, etc.).

TheGreatBigMac

Foegele could go but a later pick to get double retention on the 2RW seems a better path. Need all the depth we can get for a run.

hunter1909

Since “The Streak” Oilers are now 3-3.

They seem to play to the level of the opposition. Against Dallas they played well.

cowboy bill

Hard fought battle yesterday afternoon. Liked Perry with McDavid & Draisaitl so much he may buy them some time in acquiring that top six winger. I believe they should definitely be looking for a center to add to the team at or before the deadline. A depth RHD would probably help too, not necessary a Tanev but someone with experience that can play.

AsiaOil

Defense: On defense the need is a 2-way RHD better than Ceci who makes the same money or slightly more. Tanev is the only guy who qualifies and is available so he will be expensive if their GM is even willing to trade with us. Zub isn’t being traded and neither is Pesce or Larrson – of course you could have said that about Ekholm last year – but deals like that don’t happen to often. Tough problem but the whole league has it as well. Fall back plan is a guy like Bogosian but seems redundant with Vinny filling that role already. Dumba is available – probably wouldn’t cost much – there’s a reason for that.

Right Wing: Brown has been an unmitigated disaster and I bet no one wants to share his black hole. Crazy how many first round picks (6) have tried to fill this hole over the years (Yak, Ebs, Strome, Jessie, Yamo, Bourg, Lavoie). Thank god for Hyman and Perry seems okay. Ryan good for 4th line duty. Tarasenko would be a good fit and available.

Goal: The upgrade/insurance is Campbell. No need to waste assets on a lateral or worse move. Pickard is mediocre but he’s hanging in there and helping our cap issues. Campbell comes up for free in the playoffs and he’s as good as we could get in trade.

Center: Just get Dowd already, maybe WAS will take Brown back which would help our cap. Don’t care for most of the other likely options.

Left Wing: lots of depth and no pressing needs here

Tanev is the target, Dowd would help, Tarasenko a decent option if we can’t get Tanev. But at this point it really all about Skinner’s goaltending and playing a mature mistake free defensive game. One or two adds at the deadline might help a little – but won’t make a difference if the team as a whole can’t/won’t play defense.

fishman

Really hard to see Calgary trading Tanev to us without a SERIOUS overpay. I think Dowd would be a good addition as would Tarasenko.

Primetime

Not only did Calgary trade with their other major rival (Canucks)TWICE, they also took their problem contract off their hands in return (Kuzmenko).

Not sure that Conroy is the sharpest tool in the drawer..

€√¥£€^$

I don’t see Holland having to pay a Provincial Nemesis tax, for 1, the fLames won’t be in the playoffs and 2, Tanev’s contract ends this season.

He could ask for a conditional 1st if the Oilers sign him beyond this season and/or make the SCF, but for me Tanev is worth a 2nd, max.

Conroy will try to get the best return possible and if that is from our team, he will land here.

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OriginalPouzar

Can no longer have trade conditions based on the traded player re-signing.

OriginalPouzar

Per Matty;

Matt Villalta in net for Coyotes for first NHL start vs Edm Monday

813.52Ran

oh oh . . .

Boil-in-the-Oil

OK, so task #1 is to ruin his future. Score a fistful.

MushedPeas

I had that Maroon thought on Perry’s goal. Not many styles of player that mesh well with McD over the long term, but Maroon was definitely one of them.

Primetime

TSN played a Top 10 of McD’s best assists the other day, and it seemed like half of them went to Maroon (the other half was Drai). Just going to the net with his stick down and Connor does something amazing for the tap in…just like Perry is doing now.

It really is amazing that Brown could not score on McD’s (or anyones) wing

Diablo

Brown would actually need to go to the net to score.

Scungilli Slushy

So true. It’s amazing how few guys have been able to do what they need. Really it involves reading the play and getting to open ice ready to go. And reading the play and having Connor’s back defensively

Seems easier than having to be a bigger part in creating the play (es you have to do something but not be creative) just wait for free goals bcs he will get the puck to ready fellas as few can

Red wolf

Still wish Lavoie would get a chance again on the Oilers with a quality center

OriginalPouzar

Lavoie had a bad game last night which included culpability on goals against.

Woodguy v2.0

EC standings as of Feb 18/24 using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

Atlantic
FLA 21
BOS 20
TOR 13

Metropolitan
NYR 19
CAR 15
PHI 9

Wildcard
TBY 9
DET 8

Out of playoffs
NJD 6
PIT 4
NYI 4
WSH 3
BUF -2
MTL -3
OTT -5
CBJ -9

Woodguy v2.0

I would bet that:

NJD catches PHI for 3rd in the Metro.

Both EC Wildcard teams will be from the Atlantic

samIam

This shows also shows the west as settled, with exception of the last wildcard. In the east, 3rd in the Metro and wild card slot after Tampa being free.

I wouldn’t count out the Penguins just yet. Philadelphia & New Jersey both with goaltending issues. Jarry & Nedelokovich are hot. Maybe they can help push the senior Penguins across the line. Penguins are in worse shape this year than they were last, based on PTS% when they missed the playoffs by one point. But over the last 25 games have outperformed NJD & PHI in PTS%, GF%, & xGF%.

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Woodguy v2.0

WC standings as of Feb 18/24 using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

Pacific
VAN 24
EDM 14
VGK 14

Central
WPG 19
DAL 20
COL 15

Wildcard
LAK 10
STL 6

Out of playoffs
NSH 3
MIN 2
SEA 2
CGY 0
ARI -3
ANA -14
SJS -19
CHI -22

Woodguy v2.0

7 of the WC teams are set imo.

Binnington may keep STL in it.

I think SEA isn’t out of it.

Not sure on MIN but if I had to bet on one team changing, it would be SEA.

NSH will *probably* sell a couple players so not banking on them, but could easily be wrong there

dustrock

What are your thoughts on Nucks? Are they legit?

rich tm

Trotz is shopping his most valuable asset (Saros) and others who could bring back what the lack (skill forwards). Kid in Milwaukee (Askarov) is ready for the NHL.

Keep an eye on Carrier (2D). Underrated RH d-man.

godot10

Nothing in Chaulk’s resume indicates that he should be given the benefit of the doubt.

Woodguy v2.0

This is true

doritogrande

I’ve been wrong on prospects before but I think Bourgault’s greatest contribution to this team will be as “X-team acquires former first-round pick Borgeault in exchange for B-tier rental.”

godot10

There are coaches who produce at every level, wherever they go in a reasonable amount of time.

Bakersfield under Chaulk gives me the Springfield era vibes.

Chaulk as not excelled anywhere.

Some players will progress regardless of the coach. Others will not. Chaulk’s hit ratio is very low.

Contrast Nelson, who actually took failures out of the Springfield program (McDonald, Chorney), and got non-trivial NHL games played.

Nelson made the AHL playoffs, and won a round with Bryan Helmer and 5 ECHL type defensemen, and a plethora of rookie and 2nd year AHL forwards, and if not for Scrivens in the Marlies net, would have beaten a Marlies team stacked with future NHL players and tweeners, in the 2nd round of the AHL playoffs.

Chaulk has a D stacked with allegedly experienced top 4 AHL D, and the team looks awful without Broberg.

OriginalPouzar

I would add the progression in Noah Philp’s game from October through May last year was extremely impressing.

Clarkenstein

Of all the issues in this organization the Head Coach in Bakersfield is sure as hell not one of them.

Diablo

Brown had some very bad moments too on the first two goals against when he was not moving his feet and let his man get past him, and not using his body to run interference and prevent his man from getting to the net or trying to tie up his stick.

Can’t shoot, won’t engage physically and doesn’t get on his horse to backcheck.

He is the weakest link.

DevilsLettuce

10 games back goes to December 14th against Tampa Bay for Gagner.

Really hard to establish a consistency in play and systems if it’s takes 2 months to play 10 games.

The 11th game back Gagner was 1g 1a against Chicago, something Brown has not done since March of 2022.

10 games back for Brown is a January 20th game against Calgary.

Brown has been given all the rope in the world to establish a better a track then Gagner and other then he PK’s.. Gagner’s track is far more appealing imo.

Gagner does the toughest thing in the NHL to do, score goals.

DevilsLettuce

Nov 28 – Dec 21 Gagner roughly played 10 games in row.

10 games 2g 4a 6pts +3.

Brown has not has a 10 game segment come anywhere close.

Gagner also has GWG’s against Vegas and Calgary this season.

Shamus23

Great piece LT. I am very interested to see what Holland has up his sleeve. I do think if the Oil add a top six RWer and a bottom 6 C man I think FOEGLE will be traded. But that is just my opinion.
I also think Broberg will be moved only if they bring in someone with term. A Laughton with Walker deal would probably be the type of trade that sees him go. Or a Travis Koneckny ( just an example)
Great win yesterday and you are right there were some big bad rebounds

leadfarmer

Id give Pickard Mondays game too and play him almost every other game until td.
need to know can you play him in playoffs or do you need to go flower shopping

Shamus23

Playing him Monday is a great idea , let’s see what he can do with 2 in a row

cowboy bill

I think the team is more attentive defensively when Pickard is in goal. they should afford Skinner the same benefit of the doubt. Protect your goalies should be the mantra for this team.

dustrock

If you’re flower shopping, it’s right at the 11th hour of the deadline, just like me and my anniversaries

OriginalPouzar

I agree with giving Pickard lots of games, and the schedule will require that in any event, but I 100% disagree on giving him two games in row.

No true starting goalie in the NHL has the back-up play multiple games in a row for no real reason.

To me, Pickard is the back-up through the end of the season and, if Skinner goes does in the playoffs (or the second goalie is required to step in and try and win a series), Jack Campbell is the guy – he is the guy with the higher ceiling, the proven ability to get hot at the NHL level and go on runs – which he’s done in the NHL playoffs.