2023-24 Game 79: Canucks at Oilers

by Lowetide
  1. Dylan Holloway 18, 10-6-16 (.89 pts-game)
  2. Raphael Lavoie 46, 18-21-39 (.85 pts-game)
  3. Philip Broberg 37, 4-25-29 (.78 pts-game)
  4. Max Wanner 33, 7-9-16 (.48 pts-game)
  5. Carter Savoie 40, 8-7-15 (.38 pts-game)
  6. Tyler Tullio 43, 7-7-14 (.33 pts-game)
  7. Matvey Petrov 38, 7-4-11 (.29 pts-game)
  8. Xavier Bourgault 30, 3-5-8 (.27 pts-game)
  9. Jayden Grubbe 42, 3-4-7 (.17 pts-game)

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Mato

First time poster, long time reader. I would like to start by thanking you, Lowetide. Thank you for providing a forum where we fans can gather safely and share our thoughts about a team we love to follow. I’m almost 50 so I’ve seen it all with the Oilers.
I would also like to thank the other posters. So many smart and insightful comments by you all that I appreciate and can’t wait to read, daily.
Thanks for having me.

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Bruce McCurdy

Welcome, Mato!

Tarkus

Summarizing!

Stefan was held soupless in a 6-1 victory as Portland takes a 2-0 series lead.

flea

Kings score late, looks like they will win over the Ducks.

Not for sure but probable LA is in Edmonton next weekend. Vancouver could still win the conference if they win out and Dallas loses, but likely they will draw Nashville.

Janus

Vegas has a critical game at home tomorrow against Colorado who will be playing on a back to back after a big loss to Winnipeg.

If the Knights win that game, they will be one point back of Los Angeles both with 2 games remaining.

Vegas plays Chicago and Anaheim.

Los Angeles plays Minnesota and Chicago.

Vegas could take third place if Los Angeles stumbles against Minnesota.

Los Angeles owns all the tie breakers.

OriginalPouzar

The Oilers just blew out Colorado and Vegas (the latter without McDavid) but a regulation tie with the Yotes (where they didn’t even try) and a one-goal loss to Nucks on the 2nd of back to backs, and 3 in 4, without McDavid and its catastrophe.

wood99

I don’t think it’s a catastrophe but being a little concerned is alright. Also if they didn’t try against the Coyotes,that’s an even bigger concern.

Janus

It was a 2 goal loss to Vancouver.

Funny Bissonness

I think he’s not counting the empty net goal.

Ice Sage

Ouch.
Canucks sweep Oilers this year, and for their efforts, they get Nash first round – that’s a nice bit of travel for them

wood99

My concern now is we seem to be faltering when we should be ramping up. Two games with big implications and we get one point out of four on home ice. I think this game was more important for us than it was Vancouver. They needed to prove to themselves they can beat Vancouver. I think this game was a disappointing outcome considering everything.

OriginalPouzar

Meh – the Oilers lost a one goal game to a top team without McDavid playing their 3rd in 4 nights and, with a bounce or a break they could easily have won.

wood99

But they didn’t win.

813.52Ran

Relying on a bounce or a break is not a good winning strategy.

winchester

It seemed to me Kane had most shots on net by far, but Holloway was second.

KnightRain

Ah well. Now we can rest everyone the next three.

winchester

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flea

They were tired tonight for sure. Thought they played alright but were a step behind at moments and couldn’t finish. Time to rest up, even if they are playing games, the big players should be on minute limits.

Tye

Why pull the goalie then??? What a waste..

winchester

It was strange that Stu was in the bench a couple seconds before the 6th skater even touched the ice.

Tye

I basically yell at my TV anytime I see the goalie being pulled with more than a min left & it’s not an offensive zone draw / clear possession in the -zone.

Feels like I’ve watched it burn us 10x more than I’ve seen it pay off.
(I vaguely remember us pulling the goalie with 2min left when Hemsky was our best player, getting scored on & then scoring a goal that no longer mattered about a min later… we lost.)

LMHF#1

This is not how you close out a season before a Cup run. Maybe if you’re 2 time champs going for 3 or something…but this is not peak anything. Assuming you can just fire it up all of a sudden is incredibly arrogant.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Time to fire the coach.

He has clearly lost the plot.

wood99

So you think this is how they should enter the post season being swept by a divisional rival on home ice?

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

No I agree with you. We should fire the coach. He’s clearly holding out a healthy McDavid and if McDavid plays they win tonight.

Knoblauch mailed it in by benching his superstar. He told his team winning was optional to resting and the team takes its queues from the Coach.

Time to fire him.

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winchester

This is bizarre. I’m not sure if you are serious.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Definitely half not serious 😉 I enjoy the odd troll when folks get too close to
the ledge.

I don’t actually want to fire the Coach but yea once the decision was made to
load manage the Captain, with the schedule is the way it is, yea winning was declared optional. So we’re left putting our faith in Coach KK that they ramp it up in a week.

Risky strategy but I’m game for it. They went into last year winning like what 21 of their last 22 games or something and injuries bedeviled em. Mine as well
let some dudes catch a breath here.

These guys are good enough to put the pedal down when they need to.

wood99

Who said fire the coach?

LMHF#1

If they’d have fired the coach after Vegas last playoffs like I’d said, they win a division title going away.

This on the players. No coach coaches lazy shots without follow up.

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winchester

You are mad about the play? Or just the loss?

it may be arrogant to expect wins just cause you want them

LMHF#1

Their lack of effort the last 3 of the last 4 games when they should be building to peak for 16 wins is deeply concerning.

And having a complete lack of pride against that coasting Canucks team to get swept for the season…not exactly a winning attitude.

winchester

They may have a winning attitude but did not win. You are viewing everything through the lens of win or did not win.

The truth is in the middle. You don’t win every game.

jp

“Almost an elbow”.

If Kane’s was a penalty then surely that was also.

prefonmich

Result of this game doesn’t matter in big scheme of things. Would love to beat Nucks but lots of time from bottom lines tonight and they are holding their own. Kane getting ramped up. Mcdavid getting rested.. Also this is 3rd game in 4 nights..

flyfish1168

Weak call on Kane.

Munny 2.0

Massive kill

Need to win in reg don’t forget.

KnightRain

Bullshit call. The guy went flamingo. But notice how a hard forecheck disrupts? How’s about trying harder, there, eh?

Munny 2.0

Carrick stripping Petterson easily was a delight

wood99

Now we need Skinner to channel his inner Fuhr!

KnightRain

I said I wasn’t gonna stress about this game. Had friends over for the first. I was just gonna enjoy the ride, not caring if we passed van for first.
But here I am, on my second scotch and wanting to stomp these guys!!!
Can’t believe how sneaky dirty these buggers are! Stickholding and slashing to the hands galore!
Come on, Kaner. Drag em into the fight!

Admiral Ackbar

Easily my favourite comment of the evening!

winchester

I thought the Oilers played soft all period up to the goal. Soft breakouts, passes off, intensity down. Lost multiple puck battles. The line turned it on for that one shift resulting in that goal.

Vancouver isn’t that good. Well coached, some set plays, simple but effective board work, and they get open. They seem to have lucky horseshoes buried somewhere.

Never changing the PP is having a negative affect now. Without Connor, there is Leon and a lot of lost players. A few set plays would be good right now. There is a lesson here.

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wood99

Good save by Skinner late in the period. Need to carry our momentum into the third.

Admiral Ackbar

He’s has trouble with that shot from Messier’s office. That one was close. I thought it had a good chance to spill out behind him.

Last edited 7 months ago by Admiral Ackbar
wood99

Yes I notice he seems to lose his net on. That angle.

Admiral Ackbar

This game is so much more enjoyable with the sound off. Does anyone successfully get video to line up with Michaels on radio?

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

I’d note that Stu had a much better angle on that Garland shot vs the one on Lafferty.

Stayed square and didn’t overcommit to the right handed shot.

Last edited 7 months ago by SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!
KnightRain

BOOM!!! There you go, Kaner! Now drag the rest of the team into the fight!!!

wood99

Great goal late in the period. Lets keep pressing them.

jp

Big goal by Kane unless that was high.

wood99

Their backup is outplaying our starter. Stu has got to fix his body language after goals. Looks like he is always mad looking up after every goal or waving his arms. We look out of sync tonight. Making lots of simple mistakes. We need to get a goal and get our emotion back in the game. We almost seem a little fragile tonight.

Crazy Pedestrian

Note gonna lie. The probability of losing all four regular season games to these guys is off putting. Cringe worthy even. Will they be the next western team to best us in the playoffs??? Dear Gord I hope not. The last two teams that did won the cup… 😩

90s fan

The first three dont count because it was pre kk. This one doesn’t count because no mcd. Unless we win.

This canucks team reminds me of the flames a few years ago. Miss the playoffs the year before, play above themselves in the reg season, get first, then get fed by the oilers in a wild 5 game series.

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Crazy Pedestrian

Not gonna lie. The high probability of losing all four regular season games to these guys is off putting. Will they be the next western team to best us in the playoffs??? Dear god I hope not… the last two teams that did won the damn cup.

KnightRain

I hope that hit wakes up Kane. We’re just not up to top gear. A split second off especially in the D zone.
Looking tired. More mentally than physically, too.

Ice Sage

The Oilers appear, likes some of us, to have mixed feelings about winning this game.

Admiral Ackbar

Time to send them a message. They’ve been running around all game.

Paddyh

Why do I find it so hard to listen to DeBrusk?? Haha

Admiral Ackbar

Why do I always have the impression on HNIC that DeBrusk couldn’t possibly be our honetown colour guy.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

McLeod with a fugly shift there.

LMHF#1

This is weak and embarrassing.

Admiral Ackbar

The offence looks very plain tonight.

Admiral Ackbar

This is a big game. But 5 games in 7 nights is almost an impossibility to win-out. Are they resigned to finishing 2nd and opting to keep McD rested and healed? Or is this injury worse than let on? Or given the slog of 5in7, do they want a fresh Connor for the second half of it?

jp

This is a big game. But 5 games in 7 nights is almost an impossibility to win-out.

They already didn’t win-out the 5 in 7 with the OTL to Arizona.

Admiral Ackbar

Obv. My point is that it may not be fruitful let alone realistic to try to get the most possible points out of the remaining schedule.

prefonmich

Very impressive pk by our team!!

Munny 2.0

I had commented early on in this powerplay’s iteration that Kane was not looking comfortable at the bumper spot.

Seems Nobby wasn’t happy either and has him on boards tonight.

GB&Q

I’d rather see 71 on PP1. Speed demon

jp

At least they’re 50% on the high sticks.

flyfish1168

Canucks 22 hits Good Guys 18. Let’s change this.

flyfish1168

We are the bigger team and we are being out hit.

Last edited 7 months ago by flyfish1168
Crazy Pedestrian

being outhit usually means we have the puck more

KnightRain

Great start but it seems that when we dominate but don’t score we get into a lull and let teams back in it. Didn’t like that we got caught thrice with their two forwards passing back to the man high, who was uncovered. Gotta clean up that backcheck. The goal was unfortunate. Hope they don’t get deflated and start cheating.
Keep working, fellas. Two periods left. Grind them down and force them into mistakes.

Bling

That gap by Nurse on the GA was horrendous. That pairing also gave up another five bell alarm chance earlier in the period. Woof.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Stu was covering the left side boards there… Totally lost his net

Todd Macallan

Oof Stu that is the definition of deflating and way too passive by all involved

OriginalPouzar

Was just thinking: That’s some trust fort he 3rd line putting them on in the last minute of a period.

Evidence of the “bad” with Dylan Holloway – bad angle on the zone entry defence – small mistakes that coaches WILL notice.

wood99

Maybe,but what the hell was Nurse doing. We already have a goalie. He has got to stand up on Lafferty with 20 seconds left in the period.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Stu probably shouldn’t be beat far side by a right handed shot on that play.

Todd Macallan

True but I think hes a distant 3rd to Nurse and Stu fault wise on that one.

gogliano

Nurse needs to back right into Skinner next, he was almost there this time.

LMHF#1

That’s exactly what happens when you play a period that way.

Brutal.

OriginalPouzar

Play a period what way? Dominant at 5 on 5 until the last 5 minutes?

LMHF#1

I’ve explained before that taking a million shots from low percentage spots and controlling the puck because you don’t drive the middle while also not scoring any goals is in no way dominant.

You can keep failing to see it all you want.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

NST has the HDCF at 12-2 for the Oilers in the 1st and the heat map has them getting right up in there.

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/game.php?season=20232024&game=21280&view=limited

OriginalPouzar

8-2 high danger shot attempts in the first period at 5 on 5 doesn’t line up with your eye test.

Maybe you are failing to see an honest representation of the play.

Last edited 7 months ago by OriginalPouzar
prefonmich

Our goalie is damn good also! Difference in early season and now is team is playing better in front of goalies they trust. Both goalies have not been the negative story for longer than I can remember now!