Game 4, 2024 Quarterfinal: Canucks at Oilers

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Death By Misadventure

What a win. Amazing finish. I think this one will be remembered for a while especially if the boys win this series.

ArmchairGM

Don’t look now, but Draisaitl has 21 goals in his past 21 playoff games. That’s far an away the highest goal scoring between this year and last, the next highest marque’s are Tkachuk and Marchessault with 15, although both have played more games, 30 and 29, respectively.

Between this year and last, Draisaitl and McDavid are tied for #1 in playoff points despite the other top players having played ~50% more games. Bouchard is 5th overall (by far #1 among defensemen) with the same GP deficit.

If you look at P/GP they’re 1, 2, 3, with 1.81, 1.81 and 1.53 P/GP.

Also, I looked at career scoring rates in the playoffs, it shakes out this way:

1. Gretzky: 1.84 P/GP
2. Draisaitl: 1.67
3. Lemieux: 1.61
4. McDavid: 1.60
5. Pederson: 1.53
6. MacKinnon: 1.30
7. Rantanen: 1.25
8. Messier: 1.25
9. Orr: 1.24
10. Bossy: 1.24
11. Kurri: 1.17
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19. Bouchard: 1.11
20. Makar: 1.10

I’m not worried about the next contracts for McDavid, Draisaitl and Bouchard – they’ll be worth it for the way they elevate in the postseason.

What a great problem to have!

Scungilli Slushy

It will be interesting to see how the end up fitting the 3 in. As you said paying elite players isn’t a problem (can’t pay too many though), but only they should have top cap hits

ArmchairGM

Yes, that’s why they need guys who want to be part of the journey like Nuge, Kane, Hyman, Ekholm, (DeBrusk, Montour) in the $5-6M range.

Tarkus

Summarizing!

Stefan picked up his first point of the series with an assist on a shortie. However, Portland lost 4-3 in OT and could get the business end of the broom Wednesday night.

DevilsLettuce

Sid
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With Bouchard on-ice, Edmonton has allowed 1.74 5v5 goals against per 60. Without him, it jumps up to 3.32, nearly twice as much.

The offence is obviously spectacular, and playing with Ekholm absolutely helps, but Bouchard deserves a lot of credit for his defensive improvement.

Bouch is all around dominate.

Scungilli Slushy

Bouch is a 5 tool player now, great to see. It’s based on his talent, but it is amazing how being able to skate at a high level, and be able to pass and shoot well makes quite a difference in performance. I’d be interested to see D pair D zone times

Rafa Nadal

Does Bouchard’s next contract start with a 10? Also Vancouver’s ability to get deflection goals exactly when they need to is uncanny…

Zelepukin

well, he has the 3 GWGs for half our wins in the playoffs, as a defenseman. How many other teams in the league would pay whatever it takes for that?

Ryan

To this day, I still have bad memories of Zubov walking the puck on the blue line wearing his thick gold chain around his neck terrorizing us with threats of scoring.

Zubov never had more than 13 goals and 71 points in a season.

Still he was a hell of a player.

Bouchard had 82 points and 18 goals this past season. I can’t imagine what his next contract looks like.

Last edited 6 months ago by Ryan
Bruce McCurdy

Zubiv had 89 points in his first full NHl season in 1993-94, leading the Rangers in scoring in the process. He added 19 more in the playoffs as NYR won their only Stanley in my lifetime. Still don’t understand why they ever traded the guy.

ArmchairGM

I’m sure they would – if they could. Fortunately Bouchard is an RFA in 2025, so the Oilers own his rights exclusively.

Genjutsu

Series tied 2-2 with Van City riding a PDO pony named 10 Fiddy

Mr.Snrub

I feel like Chris Farley & Norm in those old SNL Chicago Bears fans skits. Absolute heart attack central tonight!

kgo

Can we get a pad check on Silvos’s pad length? he has no 5 hole, his pads overlap on themselves when he butterflys…

God I miss the automatic McTavish 3rd period illegal curve calls when he was a coach.

Mayan Oil

If this keeps up we will need to start making Bouch>Stan Weir memes…. who wants to go first?

jtblack

Can’t wait for the LT write up tomorrow !

Boil-in-the-Oil

Evan Bouchard is currently a supreme value contract. I fear (well, not fear exactly… more like expect) his next one will be huge. 8 years and a sizeable Oilers’ discount please.

jtblack

what is the Oilers discount?

Yukon Jerk

Multiple no movement clauses
According to Chiarelli

Scungilli Slushy

+20%?

dangilitis

Also, my heart can’t take any more 1 goal games. That’s 8 in a row for Nuckleheads

hunter1909

If you think tonight’s was a must win game, press thumbs up.

Oilers pull out a W; unless they run the table still play 2 out of 3 games away.

Draisaitl’s having another Conn Smythe playoff. Leading the NHL. McDavid taking care in the number 2 spot, and after tonight Evan Bouchard climbs up to 3rd in the NHL playoff scoring race.

Welcome to the NHL playoffs, in your official debut as a starter goaltender: Cal Pickard. Cal Pickem to win his next start.

PS: Canucks proving to be a tough and resilient team with strength in so many important positions. Plus, Tocchet really hates the Oilers.

Last edited 6 months ago by hunter1909
dangilitis

Everyone is worried about overplaying McDavid and Draisaitl. That this would not be sustainable

Interestingly in the meantime they may have found a solution in Bouch and Ekholm 24-25 mins a night. I remember how many minutes Pronger crunched for us in ‘06, so I personally am less worried about giving those kinds of minutes to those warriors.

Also, all of the injury worries about Drai and Ek are seemingly unfounded

hunter1909

Draisaitl is arguably as tough as Mark Messier.

jtblack

you are comparing a HHOF D man to some forwards. No forwards have ever played 25+ mins / night.

The Edm team tonight, McDrai split up – under 24 mins each ….That’s the Cup chance … when they are apart Edm is harder to defend.

90s fan

Also pronger really got away with conserving energy. He was just so dominant physically. I swear he could have played the whole game without working up a sweat.

winchester

One more point to enjoy.

Soucy out, Julson in.

Julson goes for the big hit, resulting in a big goal for Nuge.

Loved it.

Munny 2.0

Tocchet: Oilers wanted it more early… It’s the will to get to pucks…

My point exactly all series long. But we can’t win this series unless we win two in a row at some point.

Have to be proactive with our intensity and desire and win one without our backs against the wall. Preferably the next one and put some pressure on their goalie for a change. Giving Silovs the belief he can beat us by giving up game one has been costing us ever since. Take the battle to them.

Last edited 6 months ago by Munny 2.0
cowboy bill

How about three in a row? Win on the road & a win at home. Then move on to the conference final.

Munny 2.0

I’ve never seen anyone win three in a row without winning two in a row. Three isn’t critical. Two is.

Last edited 6 months ago by Munny 2.0
Bling

Nobody puts Nuge in the corner; Nuge puts pucks in corners. Forget analytics and matchups and d-pairs and who the 12th forward is and what the cap efficiency is. Did you hear the sound of Nuge putting that shot off the bar and in? I kid you not, I believe it to be the sweetest sounding post I’ve ever heard. Like the hockey Gods doing harmonies. Magnificent!

oilpower

Right there with the klefbom shot in 17.

DevilsLettuce

Pickards net, positioning and rebound control was a noticeable difference.

godot10

Vancouver had basically no unpressured shots on Pickard. The Oilers played very well in front of him, something they did not for the full sixty minutes for Skinner most of these playoffs.

DevilsLettuce

Pickard didn’t keep kicking the puck out from simple shots creating unending melees.

They gave up more shots tonight then the previous 2 games.

When the puck hits Pickard in the glove he catches it.

Garland scores in the 1st on the powerplay if Skinner was in net, he’d open up swatting at bees.

cowboy bill

Pickard was just good enough. I’m glad he was in net.

hunter1909

In your debut start in the biggest NHL playoff pressure imaginable, “just good enough” gets an A+

flea

I don’t think there is a big difference between him and Skinner. I’m fine with either goalie, go with whoever is in a better headspace and ready to compete. If that’s Picks again I’m good with it. The oilers are due for an offensive outbreak and not need to rely on their goalie at all to win (how they won so many times this season). Sieve-los is ready to regress.

hunter1909

In my day goalies weren’t considered to have enough brains to even have a headspace.

Therefore Pickard gets the next start, and the next one after that until he screws up; like Skinner is supposed to have.

gogliano

Another game where we’ve carried a significant majority of the play. That was a shaky third, but they absolutely dominated for stretches before that Vancouver push.

Vancouver has 81 shots over 4 games. Oilers with 75 over the last two (and 124 over 4).

winchester

Bouchard is not only killing it with the goals, he has rounded out his game.

Remember when he played soft? Fixed that. Hits? – he’s fixed that. Defence – he’s solid.

As far as what Connor/Leon needed on the point, he has excelled. That Ekholm guy is so good and deserves credit for Bouchard performance as well.

godot10

He mainly sees the ice with McDavid. Which isthe right deployment to limit his weaknesses defensively, and accentuate his strengths.

winchester

Somewhere along the line, the kid got strong, and can get pissed.

Yukon Jerk

I can get pissed at the drop of a hat,
It’s my favorite

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

In the playoffs so far.

Bouchard is +8

Heiskanen is -4

Last edited 6 months ago by SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!
OriginalPouzar

Of course that deployment helps.

Bouchard has developed in to a plus defensive player but pretty much his only deficiency being net front battles.

smellyglove

McDavid with 22.5 minutes of ice time. Drai with 20:46.

Yukon Jerk

Holloway & Kane were great
Legit 2 stong lines tonight
29 was the best player on the ice

cowboy bill

Well that’s settled. Now if the bottom six can sort themselves out we’ll be ok.

Sierra

Wow, what a finish. Great win.

Yukon Jerk

Time for Stetcher to replace CeCi,
He is struggling to defend & make simple plays.
Absolute liability at this point

JimmyV1965

He really really struggles to advance the puck under pressure in the dzone.

winchester

Great Job Oilers, including Ceci

Yukon Jerk

Lucky for him Kulak played a strong game

Funnybird

Stetcher is not the droid you are looking for

teddyturnbuckle

Ceci is another weak link. He can’t make a play or get the puck out. If the Oilers can get someone to take his place in the lineup and play better they would be in business for a cup run. I’m not sure they have that guy today but I’m open to trying someone.

Bondo11

Broberg or Stetcher can and should be replacing Ceci next game. Ceci just continues to be a tire fire in his own zone. IMO, he has regressed throughout the playoffs. He just looks scared to make a play in the D zone. Very frustrating to watch him shift after shift.

kgo

He looks like his brain thinks his stick is 6 inches longer than it is.

Reja

I wonder if Red Buttons still thinks Bouchard is a bust.

Yukon Jerk

If you care what Button says about anything,
That’s kinda on you

Mr.Snrub

Hot off the presses from TSN – Button sees Norris Trophy talk in Bouchard’s future: He’s a Top 10 defenceman

tsunami

or if HH still wouldn’t trade Rafferty for him ;)… Ahhhhhhhh good times

McSorley33

Insanely happy for Pickard……, calm, solid.

Just what we needed….

smellyglove

Those shots of his parents in the stands. His Dad with the big f-bomb when the Canucks scored the tying goal.

Mack43

I wish they show his dad when they scored.

Diablo

Captain Pickard is going to Adin Hill the Canucks.

Diablo

Even Kelly Hrudey is a fan.

Diablo

His parents have to come to every game now. The way they are living and dying with their son’s fortunes have earned the favour of the Hockey Gords.

cowboy bill

Vancouver pushed hard in the third. Gotta give them some credit. But full credit to Edmonton. It should never have been that close. Slivos was brilliant. Pickard was good enough.
Huge game,a confidence builder going back to Van .

Diablo

The Canucks were unable to beat Pickard clean; their goals were all super flukey.
Pickard had no chance on those.
Oilers beat Silovs clean each time … they did not need to rely on puck luck.

But yes, the Canucks are a well-coached team.
Really impressed with Tocchet – that team is more than the sum of their parts.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

That skateblade save on McDavid on the PP was the stuff of nightmares. Haunting kinda shit.

Thank goodness we have the ManBoy-Bouch to close it all out.

An OT winner and a last minute winner this series. 15 points in nine games

What. A. Player!!!!

Zelepukin

Now we just need to trade Ceci for Hughes and round out our bottom pairing.

KnightRain

The start came through but it was a solid team effort that got us here. Much better work ethic but we, again, let up and tried to play defence to much.
Gotta get it in our heads that we gotta, gotta, gotta play to the whistle! We aren’t built to be a defensive juggernaut. We’re best when we Attack!
Great win! Great efforts!!!

Paulie

Nurse – lowest ES TOI tonight

winchester

Thanks Pauline. Just logged in to crap on Nurse? Bugger off.

Paulie

Watched the whole game. Not dumping on Nurse. His low EV time on ice reflects coaching decision’s on usage.

winchester

i think
i understand your point now.

Last edited 6 months ago by winchester
godot10

Nurse didn’t get trapped out on the ice for extended period of time like Ceci did a couple of times, and Kulak is not a regular on hte PK, so when the bottom two pairs are being rolled roughly equally, Nurse’s EV time dipped behind Ceci and Kulak.

Paulie

All this makes sense. 2-14 have been the top pair all playoffs and for much of the season. I agree that Nurse has been saddled with difficult partners. Des was ok in parts tonight, but he often misfired on passes. Not a great fit with Nurse because he’s not a very good passer, though he’s a good transporter of the puck. He would have looked much better alongside Tanev or perhaps Broberg if 86 had been given a fair shake this season. I’d like to see Nurse paired with Stecher next game, slide Des back to Kulak, and sit Ceci.

All that said, Nurse seems to have struggled more this yr than the past 3 seasons.

DevilsLettuce

Ceci got caught out on 2 different shifts at or near 2mins each, kinda screws with the toi.

Yukon Jerk

What shitting?
Shouldn’t your beef be with Knobloch?

Fuhrious

Ceci was the one who really struggled today.

godot10

Like the poor, the Nurse haters will always be with us.

winchester

it was unfortunate Kane picked up that 4 minute penalty, but Oilers answered the bell right in the first period and made a statement, then got down to the hockey.

MrEd

Nurse is -8 so far this playoff year.

winchester

Well thanks for that Mr Ed, can’t just leave that alone for even a moment. Something much bigger just happened.

Diablo

Nurse has to dig down deep and find the game changing player that he used to be.
He’s been slow to react in his own zone all series long.
We need more from him.

godot10

Are the Kane haters going to shut up now?

Bling

The thing with Evander Kane is, he’s not your friend. He’s a menace!

gogliano

“Oilers just won, let’s talk about a stick that wasn’t high”

dangilitis

Ya. All kinds of credit given to Canucks for goals from lucky bounces (that were magically placed there, apparently). No love for the historically excellent PP, Nuge’s brilliance (a bit) coupled with Ekholm taking the hit to make a great play & McDavid recognizing what happened to create that 2-on-1. Only a little love for Bouch on the 3rd goal but none for Drai and Kane. Draisaitl gave Kane the deserved praise in the dressing room scrum.

Scungilli Slushy

I thought Des did as well

Scungilli Slushy

To KGO

kgo

Every dman has moments, I saw a flicker or two of panic from Desi, but Ceci looked out of his league.

DevilsLettuce

He was noticeable for all the wrong reasons this evening.

McSorley33

Wow.

Replay showed not much of a screen there….

That is quite the way to win ….but we will take it.

dangilitis

SN chose to play us off with Phish’s Axilla (Pt 2), because losing that game would have been the pits

Tarkus

Excellent.

Prairie_Sentinel

The Tarkus Seal of Excellence?

winchester

Awesome win!

Oilers the much better team to my eye. But the buggers from Vancouver have the comeback deflections down to an art.

Bouchard/Kane gave them back a taste of the old deflection shot!!

Great win, feels good.

delooper

That two rabbit sacrifice to the hockey gods paid off.

Mack43

Next time throw in an extra rabbit and make it easier on my ticker

Mayan Oil

Isn’t the old fashioned way to sacrifice a virgin?That will be hard to find here… Although some of the occasional trolls we encounter likely still live in their mom’s basement so have a higher statistical chance to fulfill that requirement… I even have a specific candidate in mind 😜

Last edited 6 months ago by Mayan Oil
Moonlight

To my eye Holloway had a helluva game. In the right spots all night.

Zelepukin

and may he never leave the top 6 again.

winchester

That kid was everywhere, forecheck and backcheck. Good on zone exits, good playing with Drai, hits only second to Kane

iwin76

I’m tough on Kane, I find his defensive zone play painful at times. But he was a load tonight, really had the Vancouver D looking over their shoulders.

Kert

Golly, that was a range of emotions.

GB&Q

YYYAAAAAAAoooooooooYYYYAAAAAY

Funnybird

Evander makes the big hit that started that play, hopefully that gets him going for next game

McSorley33

Big time…..hope it is contagious….

kgo

Ceci looked SUPER shakey out there….no Nurse to protect him, lack of confidence from the demotion….bring on Stetcher for game 5 plz.

McSorley33

Ceci was a tire fire….i am starting to lean a bit towards Godot that he is playing a Large role in harming Nurse.

Because Ceci literally boat anchored Kulak tonight.

winchester

When we win, you get to cheer for a moment. It’s okay, it’s allowed

OriginalPouzar

I don’t see them putting in a 5’10/184 d-man in these playoffs without injury. Broberg, not Stecher, was being contemplated as the extra D in for tonight.

iwin76

I was guessing that was because it is a LHD that is somewhat injured.

fistycuff

Clutch. What a shot!

Scungilli Slushy

Should have won this one walking away

But still much relief

norm2015

no easy games come on respect the opponent

OriginalPouzar

Should they have?

Is it reasonable to expect one of the remaining 8 teams not provide real pushback?

finn_fann

Wooooow!

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Evan Bouchard is a gorddamn BEAUTY!

Fuhrious

Wow, this series really shows why Bouchard was nominated for the Norris over Hughes… oh wait… that’s weird…

winchester

Great comment!

OriginalPouzar

Truth be told, Hughes was unreal in the 3rd period – scared the crap out of me.

DevilsLettuce

Draisaitl 10 points in 4 games, absolute all time legend.

Gerta Rauss

whew

I think Leon was trying to bank that shot off the goalie/defender from behind the net and it made it’s way out to Bouchard

godot10

No. It was a pass all the way. He saw the play.

Zelepukin

Ya that was all pass. I don’t think Bouch even put his head down at any point during that sequence. Just an amazing player that is only getting better.