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BornInAGretzkyJersey

The other day defmn made a post about someone to keep an eye on for a GM candidate: Mathieu Darche. His name rang a bell, so I wanted to take a better look.

Following are the money quotes from a few links to some interesting articles about the current AGM/Director of Hockey Operations in TBY, and perhaps some insight as to why his name is subtly floating around the ether.

From the Montreal Gazette as his hiring in TBY was announced:

Darche, 42, will be selling his home in Candiac on Montreal’s South Shore and leaving his job as vice-president of sales and marketing in Canada for Delmar International Inc. He spent four seasons playing for the McGill Redmen before making his NHL debut with the Columbus Blue Jackets during the 2000-01 season. He played in 250 career NHL games with the Blue Jackets, Nashville Predators, San Jose Sharks, Lightning and Canadiens, posting 30-42-72 totals. He retired following the 2011-12 season with the Canadiens.

Darche graduated from McGill in 2000 with a commerce degree, majoring in marketing and international business

Source: https://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-inside-out/former-canadien-mathieu-darche-joins-lightning-management-team

From the Montreal Gazette, also via Stu Cowan, about interviewing for GM in MTL:

The other seven candidates expected to be interviewed are Darche, Patrick Roy, Kent Hughes, Daniel Brière, Stéphane Quintal, Marc Denis and Roberto Luongo, who all meet Molson’s prerequisite of being able to speak French.

To me, Darche is the most qualified of the candidates after spending the last three seasons as director of hockey operations with the Tampa Bay Lightning under GM Julien BriseBois and winning two Stanley Cups. When I had a lengthy chat with Dart two years ago in Tampa, he said BriseBois had him involved in basically every project he was working on and that he was on a “very accelerated learning curve.”

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Darche is very well-respected in the hockey world, making it to the NHL as a player despite being undrafted and finishing his career playing three seasons with the Canadiens. He was involved with the NHLPA as a player and also has a business background.

Source: https://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-inside-out/stu-cowan-mathieu-darche-checks-all-the-boxes-in-canadiens-gm-search

About being an up and comer in the GM circuit, having interviewed for GM in CHI:

Darche is a former AHL All-Star in 2007 and Calder Cup Champion with the Milwaukee Admirals in 2004. He played 12 professional seasons of hockey, 11 in North America with 802 games played between the NHL and AHL in his playing career. In May of 2019, he became the Director of Hockey Operations and Assistant GM with the Tampa Bay Lightning. In his time with Tampa Bay, the Lightning have won back-to-back Stanley Cups. Not too shabby.

Although he had little to do with the build-up of the Lightning, he’s managed the club on the Hockey Operations side through two successful Stanley Cup runs under GM Julien BriseBois, which is nothing to scoff at. Clearly having been in the middle of two GM searches already this year, there is belief in Darche to be the next big GM hire somewhere in the NHL, and it’s clear to BriseBois that he may not have Darche around much longer.

If given the chance to run his own program somewhere, I’m sure he’s going to do great for the same reason I know he would do great in the role I have for him. His leadership skills, his people skills, his expertise in the game of hockey and management in general make him a really strong candidate for leadership positions in any organization, particularly the NHL.

Source: https://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2022/01/29/is-mathieu-darche-going-to-emerge-as-gm-candidate-for-the-blackhawks/

Darche has been the Tampa Bay Lightning’s Director of Hockey Operations since May 2019. Of more relevance to this particular article, he also became an assistant general manager in 2022.

Similar to Hunter and Burke, Darche offers the invaluable experience of having played in the NHL for nine seasons, thus he has a natural rapport with, and knows how to handle today’s players.

As per the Lightning’s official site, the 47-year-old is afforded loyalty and respect among players, after being heavily involved on the NHLPA negotiating committee during the 2012-13 work-stoppage. Of note, he also served on the negotiating committee of the Professional Hockey Players Association for the AHL’s collective bargaining agreement.

Darche has an excellent reputation within NHL circles in general, as someone seemingly destined for greatness. And yet this still hasn’t lead to a bigger position thus far, after being knocked back for roles with the likes of the Canadiens, Pittsburgh Penguins and Vancouver Canucks.

Source: https://oilonwhyte.com/posts/case-mathieu-darche-next-edmonton-oilers-general-manager

Optimism is like heroin

Well we finally have forward depth.
I am hoping the coaches double down on running 4 lines. Special teams is about 12 minutes a game so leaves 48. They can hand out 14 minutes to line 1 and 2 and then 10 minutes each for lines 3 and 4. Should keep the troops engaged and reduce strain on the Thoroughbred’s. Key will be sticking to this plan even if it means a few losses in the regular season.

Ryan

Good point yesterday from OP.

In a hypothetical scenario where Bouchard were to get injured, that RD depth chart is pretty suspect.

Either Broberg would be our 1 RD or Cody Ceci.

Broberg only played 15:47 per game during the playoffs.

1:32 on the PK. 14:05 at even strength.

Having Broberg who’s already a question mark for 2RD as cover is not optimal.

OriginalPouzar

There is some depth – Stecher and Brown have been daily NHL players who are fine to fill in on the 3rd pair for stretches – a very good 7D/8D actually – but if there is an injury up the lineup… yikes.

Moving Ceci without a legit top 4 right side D option back seems risky.

dulock

That’s a big part of the reason Ceci is still on the roster. It’s not wise to simply “delete” him from the roster without a replacement and finding a good but relatively cheap 2RHD isn’t going to be easy. Having Ceci, Broberg, and Kulak as 1-2 RD options isn’t great but it isn’t catastrophic either. I suspect this will be the big deadline pickup this year.

defmn

This is why I mentioned a few weeks ago that the play is to move Kulak and Ceci in order to gain more cap space as well as to open up the natural spot for Broberg at L3D. There is no way to move Ceci only and upgrade the position without spending more money imo.

I know it is risky to make that many changes on defence in one off season but if the consensus is that Ceci is 3RD and Broberg 2RD going into the season that is a less than desirable setup and thinking that it can be fixed at the TD is really living dangerously imo.

If the OIlers can move either Ceci or Kulak as part of the trade for the mythical 2RD I am confident the other one can be traded for a prospect or draft picks.

To me they have to identify a team unlikely to make the playoffs with a quality RD and bite the bullet and overpay and just get it over with. We all know that an overpay at the TD is guaranteed so its not like they would save anything in assets by waiting.

And, yes, I know Kulak is good and would like to keep him. I just don’t see how unless we are prepard to go into the season with a RD of Bouchard, Broberg, & Stetcher.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

I know it is risky to make that many changes on defence in one off season

I’ve read this often, in many corners of the Internet, as the prevailing wisdom.

However, if we’re legitimately upgrading does it not stand to reason that the level of play would increase? Two out of six is one third, but accounting for minutes it would be a reasonable tick greater than 33% of personnel expressed as ice time.

Ekholm improved the team when he arrived. And Keith. So did Kulak. Even Ceci. Ditto Sekera. Different stages of team building for the different arrivals, to be fair, but the point being the outgoing rearguards they replaced were improved upon with those taking their spots.

We’d be talking about replacing a steady veteran 3LD with a familiar, if not as experienced, similarly fleet of foot 3LD who likely has a higher ceiling but certainly not a lower floor. Small gamble, to my mind.

The right 2RD would probably have an impact much like the arrival of Ekholm. This would be the more risky move, really requiring the correct acquisition.

I’d be willing to roll the dice and make the changes; as you say a premium will likely have to be paid at any rate. Might as well have the full season to iron out the kinks, establish chemistry.

defmn

3LD, 2RD, & 3RD is 50% turnover so while I agree that upgrading the individuals produces better results I think familiarity takes time & improves the results as they know what to expect from their partner when things are moving quickly. Better to get that learning curve over early rather than at the TD imo.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

You’re right, that is a significant turnover. Perhaps we differ in assessment of risk in exchanging Kulak and Broberg on a permanent basis.

I am curious, who you’d have your eye on for 2RD. Parayko, obviously. Anyone else fetch your gaze?

defmn

Parayko is the best option that might be available. I’d love somebody in the 25-27 year range which is why I mention Andersson.

Parayko with St. Louis retaining would cost more than either of us would want to pay but that is going to be true no matter who they are able to trade for and I think he fits in the window.

There are guys I like better, of course, but not available at any price I fear.

OriginalPouzar

And, yes, I know Kulak is good and would like to keep him. I just don’t see how unless we are prepard to go into the season with a RD of Bouchard, Broberg, & Stetcher.

Why couldn’t they go in to the season with Bouchard, Broberg, Ceci?

There are ways to cap compliance with no trade and no LTIR.

defmn

Well, obviously they can do that. The question for me is why would they if there is a solution to be had now rather than waiting and hoping that there will be one at the TD when there is no recourse if they strike out.

jp

Either Broberg would be our 1 RD or Cody Ceci.

Kinda funny that Ceci was our 1RD for a fair while there, and not so long ago.

And now he’s not even regarded as reasonable cover (or co-cover) for the spot.

defmn

As was Nurse our 1LD.

jp

Indeed.

Similar to what OP’s mentioned, I feel like those two are very likely to be better going forward compared to when we last saw them (acknowledging that Ceci may not even last the summer).

They really did have a poor (and unlucky) playoff though. And of course it’s not like it started there, though it was certainly the low point.

Ryan

Kinda funny that Ceci was our 1RD for a fair while there, and not so long ago.

Ceci’s play has been in decline over the past 3 seasons to my eye. However, that doesn’t align with his numbers. He actually had his best regular season stats for the Oilers this past season in terms of GF%, FF%, and xGF%. Though he has dropped down the depth chart behind Bouchard.

And now he’s not even regarded as reasonable cover (or co-cover) for the spot.

Having better forward depth and lines, should provide some cover itself.

I guess it’s a question of depth.

Ceci in his prime was a 4/5 on a good team. He’s not that anymore.

Broberg is unproven still.

Stetcher could probably fill in as a 3RD with a healthy lineup, but he’s probably a 7 at this point in his career.

If you had to play a 5/6 as your 1RD, a left-handed rookie as your 2RD, and a #7 as your 3RD, that’s probably going to get exposed.

With decent goaltending and healthy and deep forward lines, we could probably hang on for quite awhile. How long, I’m not sure.

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jp

Ceci in his prime was a 4/5 on a good team. He’s not that anymore.

I don’t agree with you that everyone falls off a cliff at age 29 or 30 (Ceci doesn’t turn 31 until December).

I’m certainly not pining for a Ceci/Broberg/Stecher/Brown RD depth chart though.

At the same time, as you said the other day, not a lot of RD depth charts look great when you subtract the 1RD.

And Ceci has at least managed to tread water as 1/2RD for most of the last 5 seasons.

OriginalPouzar

Ceci in his prime was a 4/5 on a good team. He’s not that anymore.

Ceci is 30 years old.

He doesn’t have a long injury history (or, really, any injury history as an Oiler) and, from accounts, is one of the fitter guys on the team.

I’m not sure he isn’t still in his prime.

He may have not played his best hockey the last while but I don’t think its due to a decrease in ability to do so.

godot10

Fitness doesn’t matter if one can’t do the job.

OriginalPouzar

Of course, the post was talking about the player being in (or post) prime, etc. and your response is an intentional strawman.

defmn

Blue Jackets hire Evanson as HC.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Evason was a guy that I was like, “who?” when Guerin hired him.

I quickly realized there might be something there, MIN went from hanging on to the vestiges of the boring style of Lemaire’s teams to playing with tempo and and edge.

That they took the Vegans to game seven games in the ’21 playoffs was incredible to me.

113 point season the next year was really the definition of getting more from less, as the roster was concerned.

Wonder if the Blue Jackets start getting some consistency and production out of their roster, top to bottom. Would surprise me more if they didn’t.

defmn

I guess Woodcroft was 2nd choice according to the rumour mill which is why I posted it. I wish him well but I would think the before and after results this past season had to be a question in the interview process.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

To be a fly on the wall in that room when the question was posed.

How does he explain the historic turnaround after he left? Does he say he lost the room? Admit to poorly employed strategies/tactics? Blame injuries?

Scungilli Slushy

True. Whatever went on, the team was mentally in shambles to start. I think that Holland’s all in, the time is now comments weren’t helpful, and not cup or bust either, it’s not as if they didn’t know what the deal was

Woody didn’t see or couldn’t counteract how wound up they were. I think he might have even contributed to how tense they were, I don’t know, but that’s what I think from how I saw Woody

It is a harder way to lead to identify the right key points to make, and let things work organically and unfold from there. The players know how to play and what they should be doing at this level. Woody to me seemed like a micromanager, that usually leads to things being less than they could be. Things are connected and from a correct starting point will just happen. If a player can’t cut it the GM needs to make a change there. The players play the game, let them do it and guide their direction

First thing KK said he wanted to do was calm them down, get back to enjoying the game and just playing. Seems it worked

Reja

He had a dream job and then he decides to outsmart himself with the 11-7 nonsense. He lost half the room by double shifting Connor and Leon into exhaustion before the season hits game10. There’s a reason why the 11-7 full-time strategy hasn’t been used since the 1928-29 Montreal Maroons Coach Blacque Jacque Shellacque unsuccessfully tried the gimmicky deployment.

jp

There’s a reason why the 11-7 full-time strategy hasn’t been used since the 1928-29 Montreal Maroons Coach Blacque Jacque Shellacque unsuccessfully tried the gimmicky deployment.

The 28-29 Maroons coach was actually Eddie Gerard from Ottawa.

And the team appears to have played mostly with 6F/3D nonsense rather than the 11/7 nonsense you’re speaking of.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Let’s try to not inform a narrative with facts, Reja has made up his mind long ago.

Ancient Oilers Fan

We heard from Woody and more than one player that you have to ramp up during the season to get to full season form.

They were also looking forward to the playoffs and not the tag at hand.

Ergo, they weren’t ready for the intensity that the Canucks and other teams brought to a game against the mighty Oilers.

The bad start brought a form of panic and compounded the bad start into a horawful start.

As much as I liked Woody as a coach I find it difficult to not appreciate KK and his calm Saskatchewan demeanor.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

If I were him I would tell a potential employer that there are two kinds of coaches: XO guys and motivation guys. He demonstrated his ability to work well in the AHL, to say the right thing to kids on the cusp, and to get a very good NHL team’s head back in it. He’s meant for a Columbus type team, not a contender whose obligation is to tinker in the margins of deployment. Very few coaches last from rebuild to championship, he should emphasize to a club his ability to steward youth.

And he might have to throw some superstars under the bus. Because managing and carrying out an NHL training camp is a massive part of the job. Woody had his first crack at it and he failed very badly. They came out horrible and that is always on the coach. But he could spin it as Leon’s “cup or bust” verbal and Connor’s three-week-too-soon “captains skate” as evidence of inmates running the asylum in Edmonton.

jp

Wow.

He could also potentially mention that the year he arrived he took the Oilers from out of a playoff spot at mid-season to the conference finals.

Then followed it up with a solid 2nd regular season and a playoff loss to the Cup champion. That his last team played the 4th most NHL playoff games in his two playoff years as coach.

Could also mention that his winning percentage is 8th all time among men who’ve coaches 100+ NHL games.

Or sure, he could talk about AHL time while also throwing Leon and Connor under the bus, lol.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Woodcraft was in completely over his head. 2-9-1 and it’s “well meaning and forward leaning”. He had no answers.

defmn

Almost 3:00 p.m. in Toronto where Jackson is and I am thinking the “Hunter/Bowman will be announced on Monday” rumour was always just the internet being the internet.

OriginalPouzar

Speaking of the Condors, James Hamblin got engaged this weekend.

Spartacus

And 100 condors were released into the sky from a rooftop mounted camping box.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

You reminded me of this Bakersfield deep cut:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IZhp5roDKqw

winchester

I’m still interested in Klim Kostin. Kostin can play with an edge, he can skate, shoot, protect the puck.

But he’s streaky, and Im not so much after him for goal scoring but to be a huge disruptor. Defensively hes not great though, maybe he gets there, hes tried 4 organizations now.

He got way more ice with the Sharks and put up decent production.

If the Sharks were to retain salary, he would be nice to rotate in bottom six as needed. Doubt it could happen.

dulock

Klim Shady would be an interesting deadline pickup. The Sharks have already used their 3 salary retentions for the year (Burns, Karlsson, Hertl) so the retention would have to go though a third party. Kostin did ok on the fancy stats when with the Oilers in a limited role but his 3 hits per game along with scoring 10+ goals is not bad for the 4th line

oilblue99

San Jose retention slots already full this year. Difficult to see a way he fits without retention down to league minimum, so any trade would have to involve 2 more teams to chip away 1.2 of the 2 million. And then there’s the defense you’ve mentioned… Highly unlikely he’s an Oiler this year.

winchester

Kaliyev has fallen out of favor with the Kings. He would be a good add at a good price.

defmn

At this point I would much rather see any cap space that can be scraped together go to bolstering the back end.

dulock

Yeah, the number one thing the Oilers need is to be better keeping the puck out of our net. No way the Kings trade us Kaliyev for cheap anyways.

OriginalPouzar

Would he crack the Oilers’ lineup?

So far, he can’t piss a drop at evens and is reliant on the PP for production, no?

Not sure he’s worth an asset out and a contract that, presumably is higher than league min.

winchester

I wonder why Oilers were not in on Jake Walman? Was playing first pair D, seemingly pretty well. Detroit paid to move him.

Oilers just didn’t need him of course but he’s intriguing.

Scungilli Slushy

To bad he isn’t right shot, could have plugged the hole affordably

Diablo

You answered your own question.

Where does Walman on a LD depth chart of Ekholm, Broberg, Nurse, Kulak?

Sharks picked up a useful LD though.

No idea what Yzerman is doing; maybe he had been taking credit for Julian Brisebois’s work in TB? Detroit looks like its going nowhere.

dulock

I think we often give too much credit/blame to GMs and not enough to the other staff in an organization. I remember Kevin Prendergast after he was fired made a comment about wanting to get his hands on the guy who recommended Patrick O’Sullivan. I think Yzerman was the head of a good organization and was moved out of the GM role for someone better. When he went to Detroit, that was an organization that had fallen apart and he didn’t have the individual ability to recreate what he had in Tampa.

Melman

I don’t wholly disagree with your point Duloc, but to be contrary, we’ve seen Jackson make huge and positive changes in 12 months. I think you’re bang on when you say Yzerman’s magic in TB was less him and more Brisbois and the rest of that front office.

I knew Yzerman had been in Detroit a while, but I had to look it up – it’s been 8 years now and he still hasn’t got them to even the playoffs! That is plenty of time I’d suggest to break through and it’s not like they are about to take the league by storm. Tricky problem for ownership – their franchise icon is 8/10ths of his way through a Detroit DoD. By results he isn’t great at his job. How long does the patience last?

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BornInAGretzkyJersey

I knew Yzerman had been in Detroit a while, but I had to look it up – it’s been 8 years now

Not sure where you’re looking things up, but I’m going to have to disagree with you here. Memory tells me Yzerman and Holland swapped places prior to the same season. Holland just finished his five year contract.

Sure enough, good ol’ Wikipedia has the correct information (no thanks to the Yzerman bio on NHL.com):

On April 19, 2019, the Red Wings announced that Yzerman had been hired as general manager of the team, while the existing general manager, Ken Holland, was promoted to a senior vice president role,[78] though Holland would soon depart the organization and become the general manager and president of hockey operations of the Edmonton Oilers.[79][80]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Yzerman#Managerial_career

Yz has done some fine things in DET, the cupboards were left barren after the Pizza Man’s mandate of continuing the playoff streak.

Goonar

Detroit had taken a step back because Holland was fulfilling Ilitch’s “Get into the playoffs at all cost” directive. Once the old man passed, he was allowed to start stockpiling draft picks to rebuild Detroit. It’s kind of humorous if you look at the timeline; Ilitch dies on Feb 10, 2017 and the sell off in Detroit started Feb 19th.

The Wings have had enough picks to be decent by now, but looking at HockeyDB it seems their scouts have shot mostly blanks since 2017. It’s hard to say if Yzerman is a bad GM, or they’ve just got a poor front office & scouting staff.

Scungilli Slushy

If his his organization isn’t good enough then he’s a bad GM, after a couple of seasons grace

defmn

So you are saying it is worth a phone call to see what it would take to land Seider? 🥸

winchester

If he truly was top pair, he could be added and bump everybody down and out.

but if he was, why trade him?

hmm

dulock

Apparently Walman wasn’t shopped around at all. Lots of GMs were saying they would have given up something to get him but didn’t know he was available.

Oil2Oilers

The new depth and balance of the forward prospects could lead to interesting mid season/trade deadline lineups.

Skinner McDavid Hyman
Holloway Draisaitl Av
Lavoie/Jarventie Nuge Savoie
Janmark Henrique Brown

Old man Nuge baby sitting a bunch of volume shooters.

defmn

Kane?

oil-in-the-blood

I hope kane gets healthy we need his intimidation factor and his gritty in that lineup above… people dont mess with kane, even when he can barely skate

Scungilli Slushy

For sure, until some of the more aggressive young guys arrive. If he’s not healthy or gets moved that player type is what I’d be looking for at the deadline, if they haven’t upgraded RD, or do both

It’s a part of the game and especially playoffs. If Raffi Tores can change the momentum of a series….. If we had a player or two like that against Panthers it might have pushed them over. Teams like the Panthers don’t quit, but are used to doing the dishing, and if you start running or hacking their best players (as they did to us) I think it could get them well off their game mentally. Like Sheehy used to do to the Oilers in the 80s

oil-in-the-blood

Agreed. Really like the moves made but we need some angry mean players. When Jarventie is healthy as well he may add a little? He def has size. I don’t know enough about him. Kane is very difficult to replace as a whole. If Nurse can bring some snarl back more consistently, that helps. Vinny D brought some definitely. They may just throw Brown in here and there.

Scungilli Slushy

I doubt we see Jarventie in the NHL this season, they have a lot of forwards

I think Brown is as least as good as Vinny, going by PuckIQ and some reading I did about Brown before last deadline, looking at RD options. I was hoping they would do somthing

I also think that while Vinny is big, Brown is meaner and tougher. He has had concussion issues though

oil-in-the-blood

Yes, Jarventie being hurt needs to heal and play back to where he can be and stay healthy. Be nice if Brown surprised a little, he is supposed to be a decent skater, that may help, I found Vinny D would get burned a bit outside. I wonder and hope if he is playing at all, he is fleet enough to limit that a bit. We will see. At the end of the day we will need a D add. Bro should really be on the left side but I feel he is only going to get better regardless.

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Reja

Vinny was too nice I get he was trying to play as a everydayer and that doesn’t happen if the Refs finger him for Knick knack penalties all the time. Vinny needed to grab someone by the throat and squeeze for taking liberties with Connor, Leon, Evan etc The Panthers figured it out when they sent Huberdeau and Weeger for organizational toughness. I have a feeling Brown has more ugliness and since having the security of a 3 year contract that Brown will have the green light more than not.

OriginalPouzar

Far from an expert but, from what I’ve read and heard, Jarventie is not that type of aggressive player.

cowboy bill

Good question?

Jethro Tull

I did a wine tour in Kelowna with a guy who billeted Justin Schultz. He said he was a great young man, very nice, but very quiet. He wondered how Justin would cope with the rougher edges of the NHL, on and off the ice.

winchester

Sounds like a personality type that might struggle with 18,000 fans looking down on him, throwing out the Booos

OriginalPouzar

Lots of youth in the forward ranks – I do think Petrov will get a push along with Philp and Grubbe (and, of course, Savoie). I would expect the likes of Stonehouse and likely Stepan to take some real time adjusting to the pro game – could be some healthy scratches or some ECHL time.

Holt said that Rodrigue will get a real chance to run with the starting job. Would be so nice for the kid to take another step this year.

Should be a very fun season to watch.

OriginalPouzar

Veteran defence with so many players that could fill in for a game or two in the NHL (and have done so in the past): Brown, Gleaon, Dineen, Carrick, Kemp.

I do include Josh Brown in that group as the Oilers wont be able to keep 8 d-men so one of Stecher or Brown needs to be waived/assigned, right?

OriginalPouzar

Yes, for sure, they could keep both but, if that happens, I think we are in a tough place to start the season as it means either: Broberg has not signed, a D-man is traded with no d-man back and/or real injury.

Maybe they are both in the AHL and Phil Kemp is on the NHL roster?

Seems unlikely!

Scungilli Slushy

I find that both Stecher and Brown signed odd. I’m sure both want to play in the NHL, but both are 3rd pair types. I read Stecher at least wanted to be with a winning org as why. Without a trade or two it seems one is likely to go down

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Depth, is the plan.

Actual NHL players looking to crack the roster instead of gifting spots to prospects and suspects.

Scungilli Slushy

For sure I get it from the team’s side, just the player’s side seems odd

cowboy bill

My question is how do you slide Kemp in with veteran defensemen that could fill in for a game or two in the NHL(and have done so in the past) category?

Washingtron

I live in LA and have been to Bakersfield to see a few games. I was NOT aware of the trails you mention, but I WAS there on dollar hotdog/two dollar beer night and it was not for the faint of heart attack.

delooper

When I lived in Germany, 20 years ago, 1L bottle of beer cost 1EUR, which was a little less than $2 CDN. That was all day, every day.

cowboy bill

That’s a big bottle of beer. I remember going on a cycling tour in Germany after one of those I’d be a bit wobbly on my bike.

Scungilli Slushy

I’ve read if they made everyday booze expensive in many Euro countries there would be revolutions

Ancient Oilers Fan

So when I was in university two’n a juice(two draft and a tomato juice) at the Sheraton in Saskatoon was 50 cents.

In comparison today, a $2 beer is even cheaper. Although, it is American beer (low alcohol) which we used to say you could could drink all day without getting drunk cause it was like making love on the beach (f’n near water).

Silver Streak

and what a lovely beach it was / is. The South Saskatchewan river that flows through Sstn is a slow moving with very clear flow, sandy beaches most everywhere. Pelicans fishing below the weir….fabulous little city.

SVR

30 Years ago, could get a 4 litre “milk jug” of awful draft beer from Lamont hotel for 10 bucks.

Terrible shit, but started to taste better after the first one. 😂

BornInAGretzkyJersey

It’s the hillbilly version of an Olde English in a paper bag, lmao(nt).

defmn

You young’uns.

Back in my drinking days it was 20 cents for a draft – undrinkable imo but cheap; or 60 cents for a rum and coke – much more efficient for getting drunk.

$20 for a hundred draft just before last call at midnight was de rigueur. It was easy to make friends. 😎

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You young’uns. 

Back in my drinking days it was 20 cents for a draft – undrinkable imo but cheap; or 60 cents for a rum and coke – much more efficient for getting drunk.

Some time ago but still this century I was at a conference (my first) in San Diego.

Stayed at a hostel for a couple of days after it ended and went with some folks to a nearby bar. They had $1.00 rum and cokes that were 90/10% rum/coke. Rather efficient.

I did hook up with a hostel employee that night but also missed my flight back to Canada the next day. Have not seen drinks that cheap or dangerous since.

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Never trust a man who doesn’t have drinking stories from his youth is a rule I have found to be quite useful. 🥸