Are The Oilers A Settled Roster?

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daniel

“Every new general manager makes a sweeping trade early in order to reset the roster in his image. “

So… some suggestion here of goalie trade. That sounds scary. It’s not Halloween yet.

Ryan

Cap Friendly used to have a list of transactions by GM.

That’s a feature I really miss. I was going to try to see what Bowman’s early transactions were for the Hawks, but I can’t find a reliable website.

defmn

I miss CapFriendly every day since they went dark.

jp

This site is a bit clunky but I’ve used it at times for stuff older than Cap Friendly tracked. You can sort by team and look at trades year by year.
http://www.nhltradetracker.com/user/trade_list_by_season_team/Chicago_Blackhawks/2009-10/1

That Cam Barker trade in year 1 was pretty solid.

But yeah, the sortable transactions from Cap Friendly are definitely one of the things I miss the most as well.

In trying to find the nhltradetracker site above I also stumbled on this one: https://www.prosportstransactions.com/hockey/Search/SearchResults.php?Player=&Team=blackhawks&BeginDate=&EndDate=&PlayerMovementChkBx=yes&submit=Search&start=3450

Even more clunky, but it also looks like the most thorough transaction site I’ve ever seen. Not vetted in any way at all though.

daniel

So I guess when (as LT is suggesting) Bowman trades for Ullmark or whatever expensive Jack Campbell replacement is available, we’ll know why in-season cap flexibility was a priority. Campbell 2.0 with a Draisaitl contract in the 14’s all makes perfect sense. Losing Ceci, Broberg, Desharnais and likely Kulak and replacing them with whichever spray-and-pray otter-wolf-coyote-bears stick should lead to an interesting inaugural season for the gardien de but. With Skinner also shed in whatever this move might be, Oil Country will be looking at Calvin Pickard to be their knight in shining armour while simultaneously praying “history never repeats.” He made them in His image. What can be unburdened by what has been.

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jp

It’s funny how our feelings about some things can affect our assessment of other things.

I don’t know much about Tony DeAngelo. Sounds unsavory for sure.

But then many are saying he’s also no good at hockey and that the Oilers shouldn’t have interest even if there were no off ice issues.

That part I’m not seeing. He had pretty ugly numbers in 31 games for Carolina last season. There’s no doubt about that. Not a great season the year before in Philadelphia either, even by the relative numbers.

He’s played 4 ‘full’ seasons (>60 games) in the league though, including the one in Philadelphia (two for the NYR and one for CAR as well).

He played reasonable 5v5 minutes each of those 4 years (15-17 min 5v5).
His 5v5 P/60 ranged from 0.97 to 1.74 (that’s very good).
His relative SF%, GF% and xGF% were positive 3 of the 4 years.
He didn’t play a ton against elites but not super sheltered either (27-34% of his TOI).
His results against elites were fine overall too:
-DFF%rel (elites) +0.1, -0.6, +2.1, -4.6
-GF% (elites) 52%, 54%, 69%, 38%
(That last year in PHI was poor vs elites, as was his 58 minutes in CAR last season. Very solid record in the 3 prior seasons though)

DeAngelo is also 28 (will turn 29 in October). So he’s got some tread left, unless he’s aging like Darnell Nurse.

DeAngelo the hockey player is 1000% worth a cheap deal to see if he can play like he did a few years back. It’s not that simple of course, but I do not agree that he’s not of interest from a hockey POV.

And to be clear, this is not an argument that the Oilers should sign or PTO him. Just trying to separate the potential on ice value from the other stuff.

Ryan

I don’t know anything about his off ice issues. I also know very little about him as a hockey player.

Tortorella had a funny quote about DeAngelo and realizing that he didn’t know anything about how to defend. The Flyers apparently weren’t aware of this issue until after they had acquired him.

I haven’t followed Brent Burns since he was in San Jose, but he was also an all offense no defense type of d. Somehow Carolina made it working having both of them on different pairings.

I am wondering if he worked well in Carolina because of their system, deep forward group, and having Pesce and Slavin to provide cover.

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jp

I also know very little about him as a hockey player.

Nor do I. And the Tortarella quote is certainly not the kind of thing you’re hoping for.

I didn’t realize that Burns was no defense. Certainly a rover though.

He’s been a play driver his whole career though. Just had a look, and he’s only had 2-3 seasons in his whole 17 year career where he was negative FF%, SF%, GF% or xGF% relative to his teams. So I don’t think Burns is a product of the Carolina system.

Likewise, DeAngelo had 2 strong seasons as a NYR in addition to his good season in CAR, so his good years can’t be attributed only/mostly to the CAR system.

Ryan

Here’s the article I was thinking of. It was difficult to find.

“We know what Tony is. I’m a little bit — not disappointed — but the defensive liability is something we need to work at,” Tortorella said Thursday. “I didn’t think the amount of work that we need to do with him … I didn’t think that at the point in time that we got him. But it is what it is.”

In Carolina, DeAngelo thrived on the top pair with Slavin, posting a 60.33 percent expected goal share and helping the Hurricanes to a 42-21 advantage in goals. His success in that role was a key trade justification Fletcher cited in July, especially given the likely continued absence of Ryan Ellis from the Flyers’ lineup.

But Fletcher took the wrong lesson. His takeaway was that DeAngelo was fully capable of taking on top-four minutes, if not top-pair minutes, like he did in Carolina. His takeaway should have been that Slavin is a really, really good defenseman who carried DeAngelo, particularly in his own zone.

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jp

Yeah, he definitely had a nice run with Slavin. His results without Slavin in Carolina weren’t bad either though.

He did also have 2 strong years in NY before that (with Marc Staal, Brady Skjei and Brandon Smith as his main partners).

leadfarmer

Worked well with one. But once they got Burns there was absolutely no reason to get Deangelo.
We have Bouchard. Absolutely no reason to get Deangelo
if you desperately need a pp qb maybe take a flyer. Otherwise no need

defmn

It’s funny how our feelings about some things can affect our assessment of other things.

I think it the common default position for most people that in order to consider whether or not something might be true they must first of all like the conclusion it leads to. 😎

jp

Haha, you are probably right.

Ryan

I’m sure Corey Perry would be thrilled to have DeAngelo join the team.

defmn

Hehe. Could be a mutual admiration club.

Looks like they went to the same school of gentlemanly conduct.

daniel

This is precisely an argument that the Oilers should sign or PTO him. And it’s a fine one. But responsible fanagers should be asking themselves: “Is he an otter-wolf-coyote-bear? If not, can we really trust him?”

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defmn

The Oilers are built for Stanley, and that’s a long haul. Why do Oilers fans sound so unsettled? It’s the defense. Again.

I get the angst about the defence but I am just as ‘unsettled’ about the bottom six forwards. No matter how I sort them I don’t see balance.

There is no legitimate 4C.

There are two 4RW’s – neither one of which inspires confidence over the course of an 82 game schedule let alone the playoff grind.

I think Janmark is overpaid as a 4LW but have no confidence that he can produce enough offence to play 3LW. If Skinner and Nuge are 1LW and 2LW how does Kane fit with Henrique & Brown – what is their primary role?

To my mind there are 12 forward positions and only 8 are what I would consider ‘settled’.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

To start the season, I agree. By playoffs, I think we see something like:

Skinner McD Hyman
Kane Drai Arvi
Pod RNH Savoie
Janmark Henrique Brown

OriginalPouzar

The hope is that Philp takes the 4C spot a quarter to half way through the season.

I am absolutely fine moving Arvidsson down to the third line to allow Kane to play in the top 6 (but that’s 3LW plus Hyman).

There is also the option to put Kane on McDavid’s left wing and Nuge on 3LW with Henrique. Truth be told, if Kane is indeed healthy, his biggest impact is in the top 6.

While Kane is out, Lavoie (or Podz if he can play left wing – he prefers right even through a left shot) is on Henrique’s left side:

No Kane:

Nuge/McDavid/Hyman
Skinner/Drai/Arvidsson
Lavoie/Henrique/Brown
Janarmk/Ryan (soon Philp)/Podz
Perry

With Kane:

Kane/McDavid/Hyman
Skinner/Drai/Arvidsson
Nuge/Henrique/Brown
Janarmk/Ryan (soon Philp)/Podz or Lavoie
Perry

defmn

I don’t disagree with this or BRUS above. My only point was that right now, only weeks from the start of TC, there are a lot of unsettled issues surrounding the bottom six on this team.

It isn’t just the defence.

OriginalPouzar

Subject to Kane (and if he’s out, can one of Lavoie or Podz keep Janmark on the 4th line), its really just can Philp take Ryan’s 4C spot and can one of Podz/Lavoie take Perry’s 4RW spot, no?

defmn

It’s all possible but it is why I think of it as unsettled.

winchester

Going to the front of the Oilers net is like going to a Tea Party.

Ryan

There’s a tab that covers the whole left side of your article. Can’t read anything. Can’t get rid of it.

https://x.com/eddyjo_t/status/1828531664689213721

Anyone having this issue?
If so, device and browser?

Side

Using Brave browser, if I turn my phone horizontally I see the left side brings up the Lowetide logo and “Home”, “Oilers Prospects”, etc. list items and blocks a lot of my screen.

If my phone is vertical I don’t have this issue.

Not sure if there’s a setting for landscape orientation that causes this or what.

Shane

I’m having the same issue as Side iPhone/safari

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Ryan

There is a menu that drops down on the left if selected. You should be able to minimize it by clicking on the white circle with an x in the center. It’s located on the top right edge of that menu.

Boil-in-the-Oil

Same problem here… has never ever happened when I’ve visited here b4 (started happening yesterday).

On this windows laptop I use Firefox. I discovered if I remove the Firefox sidebar (which displays my favourites) the full page is viewable. But I have never had to do this before, hope a fix will be made.

Ryan

I had installed a plugin allows updating the blog theme to the latest version. It used to require a manual click to update. It looks like a new version dropped a few days ago and is currently installed on this blog. I am not sure if Danny or Lowetide updated it to the latest version or if it does it automatically now.

It’s likely that the recent issues are related to the the new theme version. They probably won’t resolve until PenciDesign drops a fix.

As always, try flushing browser cache.

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jp

Anyone having this issue?

If so, device and browser?

If potentially helpful, I am not having the issue.

Checked on Safari/iPhone and Safari + Firefox on MacBook. No issues anywhere for me.

McNuge93

Yes, having issue on Samsung tablet, but not on my desktop.

Scungilli Slushy

Last time the Oilers were great, what was their D group like? A bunch of offensive D driving offense? Other than Coffey in 83/84, Lowe Huddy had 40 points, mostly assists, the elite forwards scoring so much drove that. Gregg had 13 G and 40pts. But really a more defensive oriented group. And tough and strong

87/88 Coffey was gone, Smith was the most offensive D at 12G 55pts, Gretz over 140. They were pretty big and again tough. To me they don’t need a point getter, they need a strong defender that has some game, ie can play with the puck well enough and can skate well enough, get the puck back and to those forwards. Tough would be a bonus. Lower offense should also mean affordable, keep the group together if it’s good

So no for me to Barrie, DeAngelo, Schultz, Capt Shattenkirk. None are that big (height/weight), none are that physical. They also need some RS guys that can PK. To me outside of elite guys like Bouch, D need to be able to defend, pass,skate, be physical hopefully, first as the bottom line, if they also have higher offense great, but this team can’t afford to pay them If Bouch soon or Nurse are still there

If they want a higher end rental, the only 24/25 UFA RD I see that are good enough to make a big difference are Burns and Ekblad. I’m not sure either team is moving them at the deadline given they are contenders

The Great One

Update on Leon Draisaitl & his contract extension talks. 

8 years, $13.5M AAV is the deal that gets this done, here’s why. 

Leon Draisaitl is scheduled to be in Edmonton within the next couple of days. This was a week that was very important to get this done. 
Talks will pick up as him & Stan Bowman will meet in person. 

If there is no deal to be signed before September 19th Leon won’t negotiate during the season. The goal is to get this done before that date as Leon doesn’t want this to be a problem or a distraction going into training camp. 

Now 10 days after the season ended Leon Draisaitl, Connor McDavid & Evan Bouchard had a conversation with the other players on the #LetsGoOilers on taking less $ to try & win as many @StanleyCup over the next 9 seasons. RNH, Kane, Hyman, Henrique, Janmark, Brown all took less $ & if anyone on July 1st signs taking less money would be great for the team going forward as many of the core players would be sticking around long term. That was a big conversation among the players who had the opportunity to sign long term. 

With Nurse at $9.25M AAV & if the Leon, Connor & Evan all sign for what the market can give them (Leon $14.5M, Connor $16M & Evan $12M) the #Oilers would have roughly $54M tied into 4 players & from what we understand the players would rather see that number be around $49M. 

This is the recent information we received over the summer & in recent days.

https://x.com/2muttshockeypod/status/1828149526114545773?s=61

greenshifter

Wish I could sign for 14 or 16 million and then ask others to take less.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Wish I could sign for 14 or 16 million and then ask others to take less.

That’s not what it says though.

Those are the open market numbers.

They intend to sign for less, to the tune of about $5MM under market value (collectively). That’s enough to get a good player.

if the Leon, Connor & Evan all sign for what the market can give them (Leon $14.5M, Connor $16M & Evan $12M) the #Oilers would have roughly $54M tied into 4 players & from what we understand the players would rather see that number be around $49M

greenshifter

Leon Draisaitl, Connor McDavid & Evan Bouchard had a conversation with the other players on the #LetsGoOilers on taking less $ to try & win as many @StanleyCup over the next 9 seasons. RNH, Kane, Hyman, Henrique, Janmark, Brown all took less $ & if anyone on July 1st signs taking less money would be great for the team going forward as many of the core players would be sticking around long term. That was a big conversation among the players who had the opportunity to sign long term.

It’s kinda what it says

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

If this is true, I appreciate the sentiment but I don’t think the team wins many cups with 9.5, 10, 13.5, and 14.5 cap hits. 13.5 is hardly a discount.

Scungilli Slushy

9.25 will have to go in a couple of seasons (NMC relaxes) or sooner, it’s the one that is not worth the cap. It’s the consequence of signing above your punching weight, regardless of that most players would sign. He won’t be the first ever

Especially if the others leave money on the table to win. Nurse signed after Connor took his first team friendly. He’d be happier now if he had done that I think, a lot to live up to

Pretendergast

As per Garfield. These guys already blew their credibility. Not a source.

Reja

Once Leon is signed Bouchard and Connor will follow as we seen with Skinner-Henrique-Arvidsson older vets will take less money to play with these players and possibly win the Cup.

Rogue

So I guess Bro and Hollo weren’t onboard.

godot10

Everyone on board already has made enough money to secure the rest of their lives.

Broberg and Holloway have not, and would not have on the deals offered by the Oilers, or even on the requests that they made for contracts. The asks from Broberg and Holloway were extremely reasonable. The Oilers offers were jackboot to the throat.

And then the Blues offered life-securing money.

OriginalPouzar

The offer to Broberg from the Oilers was also extremely reasonable.

Last edited 2 months ago by OriginalPouzar
Chelios is a Dinosaur

Probably shortsighted at least on Holloway’s part, who was going to put up numbers in Edmonton that he likely won’t in St Louis, as well as getting prime time exposure to the best in the business and some deep playoff drives. Now he’ll never know what that next contract would have secured. Perhaps with his history of injury he wanted to lock away a couple years but in the long view Holloway is a young player with an NHL career ahead of him and in my opinion he set himself back.

Reja

I believe Leon signs slightly below that figure with everyone coming away happy.

Reja

Sather always valued a 3-C Pat Hughes was a beauty always a threat to score. I view Henrique as the perfect 3-C with his age he has very little wear and tear of playoff hockey and will finally give us stability of a plus 3rd line. We are finally after wandering the desert for eons see how a 3-C changes the dynamic of a team. We are going to see 45-50 more team goals this season.

The Great One

The Anaheim Ducks will stream all their games (minus nationally televised) to their fans for FREE on an ad supported channel.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5725635/2024/08/27/anaheim-ducks-tv-schedule-streaming/?source=user_shared_articleAnaheim Ducks shift games away from Bally Sports, announce free streaming option 

It will be very interesting to see what changes in Canada are in store as the SN deal gets closer to an end.

John Chambers

Yes to Tony DeAngelo. The Edmonton Oilers are where you come for redemption.

DeAngelo is talented and young. I believe that if he has a stable role and stable partner, ie 2nd pairing with Nurse, he can be successful. He’s averaged 52 points / 82 games over the past few seasons so suffice it to say he can move the puck.

Or he may fail completely. But if you’re looking for who has the highest ceiling amongst Barrie, Schultz, Stecher, Emberson, and DeAngelo, I think Tony D can get it done.

Let’s bring the Jersey Shore to YEG. Gym, Tan, Laundry, and elite passing.

John Chambers

I will champion this most unpopular opinion. FWIW I was big on both the Kassian and Kane acquisitions at the time.

Kert

I think you’re prioritizing redemption and second chances over prioritizing improving the team.

Second chances are good for players with issues away for the rink, obviously depending on the severity of the issues and mental growth and demonstrations of maturity from the player.

DeAngelo’s issues in the defensive zone are a bigger concern than his personality issues.

John Chambers

It’s a buy-low opportunity. Nothing more, nothing less.

winchester

Nothing wrong with unpopular opinions, the obvious opinions are getting us nowhere. I was all for Kane and Kassian. I know nothing really about DeAngelo.

But I would be targeting one mean SOB for somewhere in that defence group.

Reja

Coach K.K knows this player I thought we would have seen Barrie on the PTO. Now think it’s DeAngelo maybe even getting a 1 year contract depending on Stechers health

Scungilli Slushy

Last season 5v5 37.93 GF%. I don’t think he likes defending

RENNAVATE

He gets points but has been bought out twice and is literally one of the worst defending players in the league. He’s not getting PP time in Edmonton, either.

John Chambers

I guess I look at it this way:
The Oilers have defensive D in Emberson and Stecher. Barrie, Schultz, and DeAngelo are all renowned for offense and maligned for poor defensive play.
But Tony D is 28 and the others are 33 and 34.
I also think “one of the worst defending players in the league” is an exaggeration.

Lewis Grant

He was top 30 in even-strength points in 2021-22.

OriginalPouzar

Every new general manager makes a sweeping trade early in order to reset the roster in his image

Its not a big trade but could not matching Holloway or Broberg while bringing in Emberson and Podkolzin while opening up some cap flexibility not kind of re-set the roster a bit.

I think the emphasis on cap flexibility, for this season and going in to the Bouch/Drai re-sign year is part of Bowman’s image.

cowboy bill

With Seravalli going on about Edmonton looking for a trade before training camp to shake things up and the fact they’re in talks with Leon for an extension. It makes me wonder if trading Leon is an option in the scheme of things. They could get a killing for Draisaitl. And
set themselves up with even stronger cap flexibility. I don’t know what that sort of trade would look like but here’s my best trade scenario.

Draisaitl to Boston

For Pavel Zacha, Brandon Carlo, and a 1st rounder

I’m not even sure if that’s enough for Leon, but I’m just spit balling here so don’t freak out too much with this thought. However, it wouldn’t surprise me if they might consider something of the sort. I know it’s scandalous. LOL

Elgin R

At the top of the list of hardest players to find / acquire are true #1C and #1RD (goalies not included as they are voodoo).

DO NOT TRADE THIS PLAYER UNLESS HE WILL NOT SIGN.

cowboy bill

I’m not saying they should. But they could sign him for $14M x 8 and trade him for a boat load of talent to satisfy roster needs. It’s an interesting topic of conversation.

OriginalPouzar

Do you think its realistic that that contract doesn’t come with a full NMC for all years?

cowboy bill

Not if the intention is to trade him.

OriginalPouzar

Do you think its realistic that either:

(1) Drai agrees to a deal that doesn’t have a NMC in all of the 8 years (let alone the first year)?

(2) The Oilers will be signing Drai with the intent of trading him right away.

winston

I would target Ottawa. German for German
A signed Draisaitl to Ottawa

For Stutlze, Zub and a 2025 1st and 2nd rounder.

cowboy bill

i just chose Boston because Leon has mentioned liking to play for the Bruins. Plus, they are stocked with players the Oilers could use with cost efficient contracts.

Last edited 2 months ago by cowboy bill
Reja

No way you trade Leon unless he’s not resigning. I can’t see McDavid are for that matter Bouchard sticking around if Leon leaves. The house of cards would come crashing as quickly as we seen in the early nineties.

cowboy bill

Like a wise man said, “Never say Never”.

Reja

I do believe Leon will make his decision before the year starts. If he chooses not to resign Bowman needs to extract as much and as fast a return as possible needless to say our team will be instantly transformed.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

If McAvoy isn’t in the deal I hang up the phone.

cowboy bill

I suppose ideally it would be Nurse, or maybe Kane going out the door. But, like you say, if Draisaitl isn’t in the deal, hang up the phone.

Lewis Grant

If McAvoy isn’t in the deal I hang up the phone.

And if he is? I think I would make that trade, one for one.

DevilsLettuce

If that’s all you’re being offered for Leon burn all local cell towers, destroy the landlines, crash the internet.

what a waste.

OriginalPouzar

My opinion is that Bowman and Jackson haven’t even had the thought of trading Drai cross their minds and have had more conversations about the logistics of announcing the extension and holding the media avail.

I believe that Drai is now back in town – I suspect Bowman will head to Edmonton some time over the next couple of weeks.

cowboy bill

You might be right. But you know me, I’m just trying to spice things up. They are looking at plenty of options, however.

Strapping Jocks

Does anyone know if Bowman is going to be moving to Edmonton, or is this a ‘manage the team from Chicago’ situation? (to be honest, I don’t know if Holland lived/stayed in Edmonton either)

OriginalPouzar

Considering Jackson was express that one of the reasons he didn’t want to be full time GM is that he thinks the GM needs to be around the team daily for the season, I presume that Bowman will indeed live in Edmonton during the season.

cowboy bill

On second thought they claim to be considering all options. It might be naive to think other GM’s haven’t tried to plant seeds with trade offers for Leon. Which would make it nearly impossible not to think of it.

OriginalPouzar

Last week Friedman said that the consensus is that managers have “taken Drai off their white board” acknowledging the deal is going to get done with the Oilers.

anonymous

Terrible idea, even worse trade.

cowboy bill

Thanks for your continued bright sunny outlook.

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anonymous

No where near as bright and sunny as the day that this trade happened would be…..Jesus.

cowboy bill

You do realize this is hyperbole.

anonymous

My disposition or the trade idea?

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I would not trade Drai ever.

But if a GM were to trade him I think Minny is the only possible candidate. Faber + Ek + other shit.

Elgin R

I am not worried about a major-poor trade / signing from Bowman. My take on this is that JJ is completely in charge and while not moving to Edmonton, needed a fulltime GM in place who could handle the day-to-day. Who would take a job where you are more than a figure head but without complete control of your department? A guy with a checkered past and no other options, that’s who!

JJ has done well other than losing Broberg which was a major fail. Plan is probably to look around and maybe they can absolutely hose a Chia-Pet level GM – doubt it but you have to try.

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leadfarmer

I still think we see a Kane trade

Elgin R

Kane has a full NMC until March 1, 2025 when it becomes a 16-team approved list. Don’t see this happening.

leadfarmer

NMC means he picks his destination not that he can’t be traded

90s fan

He picks his destination, which could include a destination of….. Edmonton!

Not certain Kane wants to leave. But who knows.

I am not certain I want him to leave. When did we last see a healthy Kane? What does that look like?

Last edited 2 months ago by 90s fan
anonymous

If we haven’t seen it yet, it seems highly doubtful that we’ll see it in his mid thirties. Depreciating asset. He can still help us though, if managed properly. 

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jp

If we haven’t seen it yet, it seems highly doubtful that we’ll see it in his mid thirties. 

We have seen it. Were you not here?

13 goals in 15 playoff games and a physical menace. 2 years ago.

OriginalPouzar

Which was after 22 goals and 39 points in 44 regular season games….

The Great One

Old.

OriginalPouzar

and he can pick 32 teams, if he so chooses.

From accounts, he is very happy living and playing in Edmonton – building a house, raising a family, etc.

Sure, maybe he’d be open to a move but, given the NMC, I would think that he would present maybe a team or two and what are the chances that team (or two) is looking for a regressing 33 year old, troubles past, often (and currently) injured player and his $5MM plus cap hit for two seasons?

I’m not sure a trade any time soon is realistic, right?

Strapping Jocks

we ARE a ‘Chia-Pet level GM’ now with Bowman at the helm. He isn’t just JJ’s puppet.

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

LT you’re fooling nobody when you say your Waive Babies are not beloved! They are beloved by me too. I constantly comb the other pre-season rosters for anything that mildly resembles a player we could get our hands on.

Step 1 is admitting we have a problem.

Darth Tu

Ha, I also like to engage in this sport. This year I’ll be playing the game of “Find RHD with contract value of $1 mill or less, a bit of footspeed, and sort of reasonable defensive metrics”.

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

I feel like I’ve been playing that game for 10 years!

Rafa Nadal

Is the Treenasoil account and Garfield stuff fully debunked yet or should I be reading into their hints?

leadfarmer

What are they hinting?
rumors are fun this time of year but i wouldn’t put much stock into them

jp

Fabbro

leadfarmer

Better than all their other options

jp

Certainly better than the ones without contracts.

leadfarmer

Dear Edmonton Oilers
Please please don’t sign Tony Deangelo. We don’t need to collect all the image rehab infinity stones

Scungilli Slushy

Waaaayyyy to much drama with that guy. PuckIQ thinks he’s a punk as well

I see Stecher as a better defender if we are having a small guy, they need defense more than offense

Bruce McCurdy

Thanks for the tip on PuckIQ’s take on DeAngelo. It’s… not pretty.

Scungilli Slushy

No worries. Lots of points, but

leadfarmer

Frank Sevarreli has been mentioning this and they are lifting every rock to see if there’s a RHD under one

Strapping Jocks

Unfortunately, Frank was hinting the Bowman hire weeks before that fateful day. So he obviously has an insider – probably JJ himself.

Why wouldn’t the Oilers under #mediocreGM Bowman sign an un-needed, poor, problem player like DeAngelo??!

Drai by Shooting

I agree, but feel like this is exactly what they’ll do unfortunately.

Side

Tony must be ecstatic at the prospect of coming to Alberta since Alberta likes the 45th president more than Americans do, according to Ipsos and Abacus Data.

Ekholmsbeard. Formerly brobergstan

oh yes. lets attack someones personal politics rather than focussing on their on ice play.

ooooooooohhhh we cannot hire someone who sees the world differently than me.

Side

Tony DeAngelo is a guy who:

-was suspended for 2 altercations with refs
-was suspended 8 games
-suspended for ref contact in Arizona
-scratched for over 30 games by the Rangers for various reasons
-assaulted a Rangers teammate and was bought out
-also apparently made racist comments towards teammates in Juniors

Oh and he spends a lot of his off time praising a convicted felon, rapist, fraudster, etc.

And, he’s also not very good at hockey, which is why he was waived by a team that is considered a playoff contender.

I’m sorry your standards are so low.

Ekholmsbeard. Formerly brobergstan

@side.

We are on a respected hockey blog, go take your political takes to the comments section of CNN or fox or some other cesspool of political garbage.

I will not denigrate lowetides blog by rebutting your trump derangement syndrome.

Lets focus on the on ice stuff with the player.

Is Tony Deangelo a fit…. maybe!?!

his expected goal shares are mediocre, his time against elites show him poorly, however he did have a monster season in carolina just a few years ago so in the right situation with the right partner he could be an intriguing fit at league min.

Side

The funny thing is, I didn’t make any political takes. I simply described someone based on evidence and facts. Why do you consider observing reality a “political take”?

Tony wasn’t a fit in Arizona, NYR, Philly, or the Hurricanes. He comes with lots of baggage and was waived and no one claimed him.

He had a monster season a few years ago? Isn’t that the case for a lot of other players who are without contracts right now?

What makes Tony so special and worth the risk?

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Chelios is a Dinosaur

Staples was pumping his tires in the EJ. For not entirely not non-ideological reasons. Thumbs down.