No More Whup Ass

by Lowetide
  • On the road to: CAL (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: NJD, VEG (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-2-0)
  • On the road to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: NYI, NAS (Expected 2-0-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • On the road to: TOR, MTL, OTT (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 1-1-1)
  • At home to: MIN, NYR (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: UTA, COL (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-0, 16 points in 13 games
  • November results: 5-3-1, 11 points in 9 games
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 10-9-2, 22 points in 21 games

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who

All this talk about trading for goaltenders the team cannot afford makes me laugh. Fix the defense first. If the goalies save percentage doesn’t improve after that, then we can talk about changing the goalies.
Evan Bouchard has a lot of talent, but he has no interest in defending the slot or net front. No sense of urgency or defensive awareness in his own zone. That is painfully obvious.
Maybe if Oilers back his minutes off he would actually find the energy to defend, I don’t know.
Also, most Oiler forwards struggle to recognize who to cover on the backcheck. Or they just don’t have the wheels to get back in the play on the backcheck. Fix these issues and then we can talk about the goaltending.
The Oilers 2 biggest problems are; 1) Every forward making between 3 and 6 million dollars isn’t producing, and several of them look well past their prime. 2) This team was playing 3 legit NHL defensemen last night (and one of them wasn’t interested in defending). The rest are a collection of 6/7 dmen.
Jeff Jackson made some huge roster errors in the 6 weeks he was in charge. And those mistakes have come home to roost.

Sierra

Last night was a putrid effort from the Oilers. Maybe it was too many games in a short span with the travel day back to Edmonton, plus the Nurse and Hyman injuries.

We should note that the PK did the job again last night. It was only once, but the PK is on quite the run. This should be celebrated!

Now about that PP?

Sierra

Lots of talk of the Oiler D not boxing out. The crux of the matter is whether they are being coached to play this way or that the players can’t play this way. Regardless, it’s tough to consistently box out when you are as small as the Oilers D group is.

This team is in need of a NHL calibre 2RD.

Tarkus

Prospectious!

Sorry, don’t have my usual verve or panache today.

Everyone plays at 5 p.m. Sunbreaker Cove time except for the Vermonters and the Barriers.

the-winston

The make up of this team is just not good enough. JJ’s gamble is not paying off and I don’t have any confidence with SB, hopefully he can prove me (us) wrong.

OriginalPouzar

Per Tony B:

Eleven skaters & Calvin Pickard are on the ice for Friday’s practice: 

Podkolzin, Kapanen, Ryan, C.Brown, Janmark, J.Skinner, Caggiula, Emberson, J. Brown, Nurse, Stecher 

I don’t know if this was an optional but I presume.

OriginalPouzar

Impossible for me to defend Bouchard or Skinner last night.

Noone was good (maybe Perry, maybe Kapanen who threw four hits and drew two powerplays) but those two were noticeably not in the battle for me.

Nuge needs to join the season, Henrique as well.

OriginalPouzar

The top line posted good numbers, I think Knoblauch would be wise to split the glimmer twins in an effort to get two effective lines. 

I mentioned before the game that I thought the load should be a one-off thing for that Ottawa game and they should be split for last night. At the same time I don’t think a coach has ever gone load up for a game that was a win and then split them the next game.

I would imagine they are split on Saturday.

OriginalPouzar

I think the numbers reflect the team last night. Stuart Skinner needed three more saves, and I think you can make the case Calvin Pickard is the better bet at this time. There’s no sin in checking down to a backup role for Skinner, with the idea of getting him back to previous levels before the postseason. A trade is also a possible option, I don’t think we’re there yet and Juuse Saros is going to cost the earth in cap and assets. A must to avoid, in my opinion.

100 percent Pickard likely starts on Saturday.

I still think a trade for a goalie is highly unlikely but I don’t think its totally out of the question if the ship doesn’t get righted by new-year.

At the same time, I don’t imagine its a Sarros addition – that contract (the new one) is simply not something this org can take on and Sarros is NOT in the Connor H., Sorokin, Sheshterkin tier.

DevilsLettuce

Saros is 100% Sorokin level.

Just last spring Sorokin lost his starters job while Saros did not.

Career #’s
2.53gaa 919save
2.62gaa 917save

Splitting beavers hair on this one.

thebiggestmanintheworld

Sarros is NOT in the Connor H., Sorokin, Sheshterkin tier.

According to the numbers, he is.

GP GAA SV%
366 2.62 .917

Those are the numbers of a legit #1 goalie.

OriginalPouzar

Friedman on 32 Thoughts (Pod) this morning wonders if the Oilers start to look at goaltending and the market at bit more.

Kyle Bukauskas notes that this is about the time of year that Skinner brought in  Adam Francilia to work with him.

I recall Woodley saying that his work with Francila supplemented the stuff he does with Schwartz.

Last edited 2 hours ago by OriginalPouzar
Oddspell

Seems high time to bring this Francila guy on permanently.

Reja

Skinner is batting .876 take away his 27 save shutout against the Pens and the numbers are below Campbell’s who was tarred, featherd and run out of town. It’s not panic time but Skinner needs a break and if you have no faith that Pickard can steady the troops then it’s trade time.

DevilsLettuce

Campbell had twice the price tag, if Skinner was being paid like that he’d be in witness protection.

OriginalPouzar

Why do you take away his shutout?

Why don’t you take away his worst game as well (or instead)?

leadfarmer

Athletic reporting Gibson would waive his NMC to come to Edmonton
we’re gonna go from “we’re complete confident in our goaltending” To a major reshuffle in two weeks, aren’t we.
I don’t know if Gibson can recover his game but every year is getting less and less likely

Scungilli Slushy

Blackwood. There are a few articles out there about Edmonton doing that. His .899 on that team is actually impressive. 1A 1B with Skinner

cowboy bill

Blackwood makes more sense to me. He’s 27 and makes $2.35M, he’s UFA next season. he would be in direct competition with Skinner for the starters job. Gibson is only 31, he would probably take over the starters job from Skinner. He makes $6.8M and ducks would need to retain at least half of that making the acquisionn cost higher than Blackwood. Gibson has only played 3 games this season , GAA 2.67 & SV% .910..
Blackwood has played 13 , won 4 GAA 3.07 & SV% .910.

OriginalPouzar

The same piece reported that the Oilers are not looking to upgrade their goaltending.

Pretendergast

I don’t mind Gibson in a ‘Roloson’ type of nostalgia move. The guy in his 30’s with a weaker team around him (the trap masked the absolute dearth of talent in Minny) getting a chance.

Count me in 50% retained. Good luck telling the wife.

Scungilli Slushy

I ran across something interesting from Quant hockey. NHL Totals by birth city. It has Edmonton 3rd in GP and points and number of players, Toronto and Montreal and 1/2. These look like all time stats

https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/city-totals/nhl-players-career-stats.html

DevilsLettuce

Emberson is about 100 games from being a Steve Staois type defender.

leadfarmer

The one very good offseason move.
Podkolzin has worked hard but he doesn’t have the offense to bat above 4th line.

DevilsLettuce

I enjoy Podkolzin, he’s definitely a bottom 6 player but he’s a full on gamer.

OriginalPouzar

I would suggest that given (a) acquisition cost (a 4th round pick) and (b) contract ($1MM X 2), it can be considered a very good off-season move – there remains some upside there as well.

Scungilli Slushy

I get that the team is slower in spots now. But we should take into account how often they have had a lot of games close together. When they don’t they have pace and energy usually

Bruce McCurdy

Second time this month the Oilers have had a serious rest disadvantage in a home game. Badly lost both.

you expect that shit in the road, harder to accept on home ice.

Sierra

Bruce, any thoughts on how much influence the Oilers Management has, or does not have, on such scheduling quirks?

leadfarmer

Yeah we overplay our best players to squeeze out a win and then complain when they run out of gas.
Happens every year.

Sierra

Yeah we overplay our best players to squeeze out a win and then complain when they run out of gas. Happens every year.

If McDrai is the path forward then the Oilers need to acquire a 2C as neither RNH or Henrique are capable.

Sierra

Not sure what happened to the quotes.

John Chambers

I’m a proponent of trading for a capable goalie who won’t cost the moon.
Alex Lyon is my pick

Scungilli Slushy

Mackenzie Blackwood

leadfarmer

Vejmelka

Pretendergast

Ullmark

Bruce McCurdy

Not bad. Detroit has Talbot & Husso, though no c9mpelling reason to trade their $800k backup, What would it take to make it compelling?

drewbot

I was thinking they were the target as well. A secret, I like Cam Talbot was hoping for a Talbot Skinner tandem

John Chambers

How’s this:
Arvidsson and Pickard for Alex Lyon and Justin Holl.
Detroit adds scoring and get out from Holl’s contract, while the Oilers get an upgrade at RD and a 1B goalie.

Diablo

Holl is not an upgrade on any of the d-men we have.

Scungilli Slushy

I get that the top players have more giveaways, blocked shots etc because they have the puck more and play more

But that is different than not taking care of the puck. Connor and Drai try far too many low percentage plays and lose possession constantly, at least this season. It’s a momentum killer and leads to a lot of extra defensive pressure, often odd man rushes, or having to scramble to get back. It doesn’t breed team confidence or help build consistent team play

I think a little more commitment to taking care of the puck (and the home net) would be a good way to lead out of this roller coaster

Bruce McCurdy

Giveaways last night: Ekholm 5, Bouchard 4, Kulak 3. Those are the top 3 (available) d-men. The bottom 3 beat the puck square.

Not meant to gainsay your point. Puck management is a team wide issue.

Scungilli Slushy

For sure. I was getting at that the leaders need to lead the team out of it. The Duo and Ekholm at the top of the list, they are the best players

DevilsLettuce

You need to add the next 3 forward point totals to equal McDavid’s production.

Draisaitl and McDavid have always walked the edge on puck protection.

If the majority of the roster wasn’t playing scared perimeter hockey it wouldn’t look so bad. They’re not doing anything differently then years past.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

When you are a team built to outscore your mistakes but your scoring wingers can’t score you are in trouble.

dustrock

Can’t score, can’t skate. This is a slow-ass team.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Yep. I was skeptical of the narrative but it is hard to deny now.

The Henrique for McLeod swap is looking particularly bad. Henrique looks finished.

leadfarmer

Yeah we got him on a “steal” contract but his legs are done.
I can see why Jeff didn’t want to job

Pretendergast

McLeod:
xGF% 42.8%
SCF% 41.54%
HDCF% 37.8% (Perimeter player)
Actual GF% 59.09%

Henrique:
xGF% 48.55%
SCF% 53.54%
HDCF% 51.76%
Actual GF% 50%

One’s on a heater, the other is doing fine.

Small. Sample. Size.

Sierra

McLeod’s actual EV GF% for 23/24 regular season: 56.6%

dustrock

Most trades when you trade the best player, you lose the trade.

Ask Boston about trading Joe Thornton.

So who do you realistically think we could get for Bouchard that would actually improve this team?

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Bouchard for a Time Machine. Put Coffey in the Time Machine.

dustrock

Speaking of time machines, one does wonder what the team would look like if we simply kept Broberg, Holloway and McLeod.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Yikes. That would Reinhart trade level bad.

DevilsLettuce

If Nashville is going into a rebuild they’re not going to want Bouchard and his next contract.

Skinner, Savoie, 3 1sts or something along those lines is what a GM rebuilding would be seeking.

Sierra

I would think a rebuild would be centred around a Bouchard type player.

flea

4th game in 6 nights for the team with travel, they looked it too.

Lots of talk about Saros but why not Gibson? Shorter timeframe on the contract, Anaheim might be open to retain, and the oilers have a good young goalie (Rodrigue) to include in a trade. Pickard to the farm as a backup.

I think having Skinner/Gibson for the next couple years is a solid tandem, if you can get Gibson’s cap hit down to something that works in the structure.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Because Gibson has been brutal for the last 4 years. Maybe he turns it around on a better team. He is far from a sure thing at this point in his career.

leadfarmer

Gibson is Henrique level finished

SoCaloil

What I saw last night is a team that was getting outpaced coupled with getting outbattled in their zone.

There’s only so much a goalie can do when his defense is two steps away from boxing out the opponent.

I went to bed after 2 periods of that lackluster performance.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

I’m really surprised at the amount of folks finding fault with Skinner when the defensive structure of this team is DOA most nights.

GB&Q

As our host has suggested, it’s a bit of Column A and a bit of Column B. Stu made a few first saves, but Wild were not impeded and pounced on rebounds.

leadfarmer

before last nights game the oilers have been proven to be actually a top 5 defensive team.
I don’t blame stu for any of the goals he let in but now its shear volume of goals he lets in.
Hard to play good D when any mistake ends up in your net

Scungilli Slushy

It’s fair to say he’s not playing as well as he has before, and not mean he’s not a good goalie and should be traded. They need to give Pick more starts and see how that works. There are two goalies for a reason. I get they want to get Stu going, but on the other hand it’s pro sports and results matter. Best player up

cowboy bill

It’s fair to say the roles of the two Oiler goaltenders are clearly defined. Skinner is the starter and Pickard is the backup. Unfortunately, Edmonton doesn’t have a 1a/1b type of goaltending tandem. To expect too much from Pickard would be a mistake. Here lies the conundrum.

OriginalPouzar

On the season, the defensive structure has been better than the goaltending, via the numbers from various platforms.

Perhaps not last night, but on the season.

Diablo

I don’t agree with calling the Oilers a 4-3 team … they aren’t scoring goals at a rate that supports that claim. Their defensive fancy stats strongly suggest that they are a 3-2 or even a 2-1 team … which is fine by me, because teams that win Cups can defend. But they don’t have the goaltending to play that style.

Fleury is 39 … one of the goals scored on him last night was an extreme fluke. The other two required fortunate bounces. Skinner was outplayed by Fleury. Night after night, he has been outplayed by the other teams netminder. In the playoffs, he was outplayed by Bobrovsky. There is enough history on Skinner to indicate that the high ceiling and bottomless pit that is this team’s floor is directly tied to whether Skinner can make stops on a given night.

The Oilers season will turn around when they get a legit number one goalie … and no, that’s never going to be Skinner. There is simply too much variance in his game. They need someone back there who they can consistently depend on.

I absolutely would go and get Saros. Elite goalies play for a long time (see Fleury). And the goal is to get a Cup this season. With the cap going a lot in the next few seasons, his contract will not be that onerous. They’ll just have to figure out how to jettison enough dead weight to make him fit this season.

bcoil

I suggest that last years team had three big fast forwards that were willing to play a 200 foot game and were also good on the penalty kill .We let them go and replaced them with players who are maybe willing to play that kind of game but because of age size and speed just can’t can’t effectively do it.

Scungilli Slushy

2023/24 GF% Reg season 5v5

Foegele 51.09
McLeod 56.52
Holloway 48.15

2023/24GF% Playoffs 5v5

Foegele 34.62
McLeod 25
Holloway 58.33

2022/23 GF% Reg season 5v5

Foegele 54.69
McLeod 50.94
Holloway 50

2022/23 GF% Playoffs 5v5

Foegele 37.5
McLeod 44.44
Holloway DNP

That’s the story. I would like Holloway for sure on the team

Eh Team

Right now they are near the bottom of the league in both shooting % and save %. The PP/PK differential is near the bottom of the league. All of these are going to regress back to the norm.

And for all the complaining about our defensive game, we are giving up less chances and expected goals that an average NHL team. You can look at any goal and find blame on the skaters, but 75% of our issues in GA is simply goaltending.

Scungilli Slushy

The Oilers also make huge mistakes on the regular. Not all teams have this as a feature

OriginalPouzar

This is a narrative that I’m not sure is true.

Its not backed up by the numbers, and I’m not talking about NST but by Clear Sigh Analytics and similar type platforms.

My eye test also does not lead me to that conclusion. On many many many nights, I see the opposition make major mistakes leading to glorious chances by the Oilers – just as much if not more often as those mistakes made by the Oilers themselves.

Scungilli Slushy

So they’re are 2-3 team in a 3-2 league currently heh heh

Bruce McCurdy

Before last night Oilers were 10-0-1 when scoring 3+.
They scored their 3rd in the last half minute of a lost cause to end that run.
When scoring 2 or fewer they are 0-8-1.

Brantford Boy

Interesting stat… I also believe last night was their first loss with a fight for the Oilers

OriginalPouzar

It was a fight in statistic only – in my opinion.

Harpers Hair

GA/GP 3.19

On average, they need to score 4 to win.

GF/GP 2.76

Diablo

That was last season. Different year, different team.

cowboy bill

A lot of goals that are scored in the NHL are fluky and Edmonton actually scored some flukes last night, they just don’t score enough fluky goals, too much skill, I guess. The Wild were the better team last night without question. Fleury didn’t have many tough saves to make except for the three that got past him. If Skinner could be so lucky.

Melman

Having a structured D that can box out with gusto and move the puck smartly would sure help the goalie situation

Shamus23

Oh Ya, Minny are big, fast and very well coached. They look great early on. That top 4 is a great D

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

I’m having a hard time defending Stuart Skinner these days.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

This is going to be wildly unpopular but if I were GM I would start fielding or placing calls on Bouchard. This team shouldn’t be want for firepower, but it needs to tone down the chaos in its own end. You have to get to give in this world and Bouchard would provide a fine defensive return and truly stabilize the D. I get it, the Oilers drafted and developed him. His is an amazing talent. But I think its perfectly acceptable, perhaps the responsible thing even, to be kicking tires.

Shamus23

This team is so frustrating to watch this year.
The D was absolutely terrible last night.
Skinner let out some juicy rebounds that found sticks in close.
Was he to blame ? No , but he added to the frustration and has on most nights this year that he has played. You cannot let in 3 goals a game let alone 4 or 5 a night and win , especially this year with the lack of O and a very poor pp.
The speed lost this past off season is really showing in the 1st 20 games. The guys brought in who were supposed to add offense regardless of their speed have sputtered and not helped out much.
The team is in a very tough spot right now and the cavalry is not coming to bail them out. They don’t have many trade chips and teams will try to get extra pieces dealing with a team in trouble. Sure they have some key injuries, but the depth ( that was supposed to be very good) is terrible.
Nuge and Henrique are nowhere near line drivers this year so you cannot have McD and Drai on the same line ( sure a few shifts) .
The good news is that the pk is going great right now and no one is running away with the Pacific right now.
They have only beaten 2 teams that are in playoff positions this year ( Vancouver and Calgary) . That is not a great stat.
We all keep hoping they will come around, and get hope when they play a couple good ones then they kill us off with a terrible performance again.
I don’t think anyone has a clue which team we will see on any given night.
Have any of you ever seen McD this frustrated and actually showing it in his mannerisms on ice of late ?
It really is frustrating and disappointing and hard to watch this group right now.
No clue what team shows up against NY on Sat. Hopefully Nurse is back as he was playing very well when he got hurt.
Go Oil.

SVR

Of all the injuries, we need Nurse back asap. Stecher looks overwhelmed out there, and Brown shouldn’t be in an NHL line up.

Pretendergast

Stu learned from Mike Smith you only need to become effective after firing a coach in-season.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Been complaining about the boxing out or lack thereof since the beginning of the season and it was also the thing that was costing them games at the beginning of last season.

Stu often makes the saves: the ones he can see and the ones that aren’t rebounds being gobbled up by unmolested forwards. Should Stu be making every second save as well or have better rebound control? Nice thing to hope for, but I thought we needed a .900 goalie not a Vezina goalie, and I also thought Stu would be backing up said goalie… now we want Stu to deliver Vezina level goaltending because:

1) Soup was a dramatic failure and he is stepping into a starting role that in 2024-25 was still intended as a back up role. Good for Stu.

2) Evan Bouchard provides so much offensive pop that we can’t sit him even as he treats everything in his own blue paint like fine china.

3) This supposedly dynamite offence can’t piss a drop.

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cowboy bill

The Wild got some lucky goals, they were lucky the Oilers were just standing around not doing much of anything.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Exactly.

Bruce McCurdy

They also had 2 called back.
The Oilers had fortunate bounces on 2 of their goals, 1 of them an all-timer, & the third came deep in garbage time.
this was not a close game. Look at the xG% for the lines & pairings in the post above.

cowboy bill

Yes, the score was flattering.

iwin76

Agreed. At no point did that really seem like a game the Oilers would win. Maybe at the 27 second mark.

iwin76

Do we have anything beyond the eye test that says the Oilers commit more or larger mistakes? Or give up more rebounds? I don’t trust my eyes, because when the Oil F up, I’m looking to see if it was Bouchard or Nurse. When we bang in on a goal off a scramble, I’m not looking at what happened with their D. When we pick off a pass, I focus on the great play by our guy not the mistake. Most unbiased (theoretically) stats suggest we are a good defensive team….

Which brings me to the goalie(s). I think I’m less biased in evaluating goalies, when we score one I’d want Stu to stop I usually say so. I’m not a goalie expert, but Stu seems to get beat through traffic more than the average NHL goalie, perhaps deeper in his crease, not as good at tracking, and/or more gaps in his stance. He plays small. Rebound control has never been great, but they are coming back out in front right now. IMO every goalie in the NHL should make the stops you expect (on most nights), good goalies take goals away. My test for Stu has been how often he has outplayed the other goalie, and through much of last years playoffs and all of this year he is usually the 2nd best goalie in the game. This team is (or was) good enough to deal with that, but given his age I keep hoping the scales will tip in our direction.

GB&Q

Saros? Too dear a cost.

Gibson? Too not the 10-years-ago version.

Nedeljkovic (or choose your own 2.5M ish tendy)? Too much like the issue we already have.

Not to wade too much into the Wallstedt/Cossa etc. argument, but it’s times like these you wish the team had another option bubbling under in Bakersfield.

Eh Team

And they do. Rodrigue with a 919 save %. Perhaps they should see what they have in him and not be so risk adverse. It’s not like Skinner in his present form is giving them much.

GB&Q

Don’t disagree, but not sure how much the org values Rodrique at this point. If he was “ready” he’d be the backup and Picks would be elsewhere

OriginalPouzar

but he’s “readier” than Wallstedt, in the here and now, no?

OriginalPouzar

Rodrigue is a much more substantial goaltender than Wallstedt in the AHL in the here and now.

No, this is not to say that he’s close to Rodrigue as far as value or ceiling but, if we are talking about “times like these”, Rodrigue is the better AHL tender.

Munny 2.0

We always lose to Minnesota.

But it’s how you look doing it. The lack of structure in the second period cannot happen. Goalie, sure, but if this was pin-the-tail on the donkey, you’d have no shortage of asses to nail.

I imagine the coach’s seat is a few degrees warmer this morning. They’re not there yet, but the season opening was the first step in the process, and this past week was a strong second. Can’t look like a team full of rooks when the GM has filled it with vets.

Once again this team is re-living mistakes of the past. You can’t fire the team. And there’s no cap space for major surgery. KK is the most vulnerable here if the trends continue. And rightly so.

He doesn’t strike me as the type to panic. Hopefully he can get them back to button-down toot sweet.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Great post. No shortage of asses to nail. Ha!

drewbot

There seems to be a malaise with this group. I don’t think they will ever be accused of outworking the other team but can outskill them. Intersting numbers but the Oil get outhitt every game, is that a proxy for working hard and being hard to play against, maybe? Last night, the team leaders in physical contact were Caggiula (3), Kapenan (4), J Brown (3), Perry (2), and even Skinner (2). mostly new guys does this suggest that the core is soft and not committed or they are hard headed and will only win their way, or some of both?

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OriginalPouzar

I am just a fan with a computer but I don’t think the head coach’s job in in jeopardy at all.

That isn’t to say he can’t be, or shouldn’t be, criticized for various things but I don’t think he is going anywhere this season.

Last edited 36 minutes ago by OriginalPouzar
leadfarmer

I get it. Scheduling gords are cruel with 6 games in 10 nights and the injury gords are even more cruel.
But with the early season hart trophy winner coming to town you would expect more push back
oh yeah and Jeff skinner is as bad defensively as I said he was

cowboy bill

At least Jeff Skinner scored a goal, and it wasn’t fluky like the first two, in that shorthanded scheduled loss.

Last edited 4 hours ago by cowboy bill
Brantford Boy

The world is a vampire
Sent to drain
Secret destroyers
Hold you up to the flames
And what do I get
For my pain?
Betrayed desires
And a piece of the game

Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage
Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage
Someone will say, “What is lost can never be saved
Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage

leadfarmer

We fired Soupy into the sun for playing 5 games at this level. Time to give Pickard some games and go goalie shopping

Scungilli Slushy

I’d settle for giving Capt some consecutive starts. Let Stu get his head together

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Uhh Campbell was a sub .900 goalie for his year and half with the Oil.

leadfarmer

Yes and he was fired into the sun for his 870 sp games

cowboy bill

I’m not so sure it matters who’s in net they need to be more conscientious defensively. Either that or they need to start out scoring the opposition. The Oilers need to be a 7-5 team in a 3-2 league.

OriginalPouzar

41 games.

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