November Scoring

by Lowetide
  1. Connor McDavid 3.17 (1.21)
  2. Kasperi Kapanen 2.41 (four games)
  3. Mattias Janmark 2.32 (0.83)
  4. Leon Draisaitl 2.24 (2.04)
  5. Connor Brown 2.16
  6. Vasily Podkolzin 2.13 (1.00)
  7. Adam Henrique 1.49 (0.46)
  8. Zach Hyman 1.36 (0.47)
  9. RNH 1.03 (0.73)
  10. Derek Ryan 1.01
  11. Viktor Arvidsson 0.88 (1.13)
  12. Jeff Skinner 0.77 (1.93)
  13. Corey Perry 0 (1.02)
  1. Mattias Ekholm 59 pct (60 pct)
  2. Evan Bouchard 58 pct (59 pct)
  3. Darnell Nurse 57 pct (46 pct)
  4. Troy Stecher 52 pct (46 pct)
  5. Brett Kulak 43 pct (62 pct)
  6. Ty Emberson 35 pct (60 pct)
  7. Travis Dermott 29 pct (37 pct)
  8. Joshua Brown 28 pct
  1. Stuart Skinner .908 (.890)
  2. Calvin Pickard .893 (.943)

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Harpers Hair

Looks like big trouble in Manhattan.

After getting pounded 5-1 by the Devils tonight speculation is mounting Chris Drury is preparing to blow things up.

Larry Brooks
@NYP_Brooksie

Nearly a half hour after the game, Laviolette has not yet addressed the press. Extremely unusual.

Harpers Hair

Some significant chatter that the Rangers are trying to persuade Vancouver to trade JT Miller.

Reja

A fresh start would probably be welcomed by Miller.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I am glad Hervey is back in charge.

New coach seems like a good dude. Maybe I will go to an Elks game this year (first time since 2019).

Little Johnny Frostbite

Take this for what it’s worth, I can vet it through LT…but I’m friends and neighbours with a former EE allstar, and even though I’m not a huge football fan, I always liked Ed Hervey. When I texted him after that hire, his reply was one word: “Excellent.” I’m excited for next season. That’s good enough for me, so I have faith in any Hervey hire.

OriginalPouzar

Gazolla saying today that he tried asking about Arvidsson and no one was willing to provide any info. He made it sound like the org is being intentionally tight lipped on it.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Maybe the Oilers go full Mark Stone with Arvi.

OriginalPouzar

Hope not – being in LTIR at the deadline would SUCK

Reja

I would say one phrase “back” by the playoffs.

OriginalPouzar

I look forward to him being back much sooner than that, hopefully later this week.

OriginalPouzar

Doesn’t seem like Hyman will be back for tomorrow:

Per Stauff, this was practice:

RNH-McDavid-Kapanen

Podkolzin-Draisaitl-Brown

J. Skinner-Henrique-Janmark

Caggiula-Ryan-Perry

Hyman

Ekholm-Bouchard

Nurse-Stecher

Kulak-Emberson

Dermott

S. Skinner

Pickard

OriginalPouzar

Podz getting on the ice before practice is starting to become “legendary” – of note, he was on the ice 25 minutes before practice started today – per Tony B.

hunter1909

When you think about it it’s the best thing for him to be doing in order to improve as fast as he possibly can.

Scungilli Slushy

They are playing well, might as well err on the side

Shane

Bah! Concussions man…😣

SVR

Hopefully the Oilers are actively shopping Phil Kemp. He is obviously not in the plans and will be a UFA at the end of the season. Not much value there, but they should see if there are any takers, or at least use him as a throw in for a bigger trade at the deadline

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OriginalPouzar

The organization forgot he existed.

Should have got the call-up that Josh Brown did.

SVR

Yeah it’s strange they didn’t at least give him a test drive over the past couple of seasons to see. Only game he got, they played him at forward

Red wolf

Need to play him at NHL level before shopping

OriginalPouzar

 I would like to see Nurse-Kulak full time.

That duo is proving to be real, isn’t it?

The problem is Stecher/Emberson as the 3rd pairing is far less than idea (I like Stecher but on his off side…?).

Stecher has strung together some good games playing a bit with Nurse and a bit on a 3rd pairing – I don’t think there is sustain in Stecher’s game, its really a size and grind of the season issue.

I think that is the one real add in-season – a legit 4/5 d-man – someone that can either play 2RD with Nurse or 3LD with Emberson and knock Stecher out to some solid injury fill in depth!

hunter1909

Surely it’s better to have a fully functioning top 4 rather than risk messing it up for the sake of the bottom pairing defence.

OriginalPouzar

Last game Nurse played 11 minutes with Stecher (against a good team) and they were 1-0 goals and killed the metrics.

Nurse only played 3:30 with Kulak last game.

hunter1909

Nurse is seen and will remain a top 4 defenseman, regardless of individual game stats.

Who/why do you think is Nurse’s best defence partner on the team?

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OriginalPouzar

Vasily Podkolzin is a helluva story, he truly is, and if he can finish the season around 1.80 pts-60 at five-on-five he could have a future with this team

Is that 1.80 P/60 “good enough” for Leon’s winger?

I would suggest that, with everything else he brings, including very responsible 2-way play, yes, yes it is.

I’m very thankful that Alvin and Rutherford determined that they didn’t have room for Podz on their opening roster (at $1MM X 2) and started the season with both Nils Aman and Aatu Raty.

OriginalPouzar

Kasperi Kapanen played just four November games but had an impact and that might be a sneaky-brilliant waiver claim.

I think it has already proven to be a great claim given the situation at the time – two injured skill forwards (plus Kane) and nothing in the AHL that is pushing for a look.

He’s filled in well.

Question is the plan when Hyman and Arvidsson are both health and there are no other injuries.

I think we can presume with confidence management will want to get down to 21 players on the roster. Drake is any easy re-assign but who else goes?

The only options up front and the new guy (Kapanen) and D. Ryan. I think Ryan is struggling but I’m not sure management is willing to let him go without another center or, at least, another right shot faceoff guy. He was 8-1 on the draw on Saturday night. Sure, the likes of Janmark can “shift to play center” but he’s not a center and its a different position – leave Janmark having a great season where he is on the wing.

Could they perhaps take a big risk and go with 6D on the roster? I mean Dermott is clearly the least impactful guy on the roster but can they risk an illness, injury, etc. leading to going in to a game with 5D?

Melman

Possible option is both sides shake hands and say “nice try” and Skinner waives his NTC so long as it’s to a playoff team.

Bigger question may be what to do with Arvidsson. $4M for a broken winger for 2 years isn’t really appealing. Would you rather keep Arvi or Kane?

OriginalPouzar

I don’t think Skinner’s roster spot is at risk.

Lots of vets take time to settle in on their new team and 23 games is not a ton.

The coach went out of his way to praise Skinner’s play on the Kulak goal last game – the trust might come.

cowboy bill

Dermott is holding a roster spot and he isn’t playing. Really how much of a risk is it? The other thing is if Ryan is struggling why not send him down and call up Philp?

OriginalPouzar

The risk is having to go in to a game with 5D is a d-man gets hurt, becomes ill or has a personal matter.

The Oilers might need to send down Ryan without calling anyone up (to get down to 21 players and gets back to accruing cap space) – either Ryan, Kapanen or Dermott when Arvidsson is health (presuming no other injuries).

Philp is currently struggling in the AHL.

cowboy bill

They’ve gone with 6 defensemen before they could do it again.

OriginalPouzar

Only due to emergency I believe.

oil-in-the-blood

Gotta love the fine skinner got for diving, lol. Good lord, that kind of play happens every game, the disciplinary committee always finds ways of making me laugh.

OriginalPouzar

Chris Johnston

@reporterchris

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2h

The NHL has issued a $2,000 fine to #oilers forward Jeff Skinner for embellishment. That means he’s been cited for two diving offences: A warning for an Oct. 22 game against Carolina and the fine for a Nov. 23 game against the N.Y. Rangers.

I didn’t know this was a thing….

Ancient Oilers Fan

If I recall, diving and embellishment were two different calls.

Embellishment is when an infraction occurs and the player makes it look worse than it is.

Diving is when there is no infraction and you try to make it look like there was.

This was brought in after the playoffs the year Canucks players were shown on the broadcast faking obvious non interactions. One I remember clearly was a Canuck player grabbing his face as if he’d been high sticked. The replay showed clearly that he hadn’t been touched.

I believe that the next incident is an automatic suspension.

DevilsLettuce
rich tm

We’re all entitled to an opinion, but hard pass. Overpaid 3rd pairing d-man who makes $2 million and is also currently on IR (out 4-6 weeks).

Coach encourages him to join the rush but he’s no Josi and he makes a lot of bad mistakes in coverage when he’s caught puck staring instead of covering his man. Reminds me of an early Ladi Smid who had trouble with back door plays.

Shamus23

Team is playing well. With the D and goalies pairing to play better it gives Bowman a chance to look for a D man to fit in without dealing from a point of Must Need and overpaying.
Henrique and Skinner aren’t producing goals and if they both do , that is a big bonus. Same with Hyman and Arvidson when they return. Kane as well when he returns 100% will be a great add for his toughness. Future is very bright with all those forwards coming back.

OriginalPouzar

Beau Akey has been invited to the World Juniors camp. Can’t imagine he makes the team but nice to see the invite.

OriginalPouzar

Paul Fischer with an invite to the US camp.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

I wonder if he’s going to become a sleeper prospect who pops after a few years and make Armstrong rue the day.

OriginalPouzar

Bowman seems quite high on him and expressed that he had seem him play like 100 times – it was a targeted add.

I would expect at least one more season at Notre Dame but an ELC is in his future.

Would be a awesome if he does impact org at the NHL level at some point but I have no idea.

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Harpers Hair

Ruing is an under rated emotion.

Often associated with going to hell in a hand basket.

doritogrande

TC brass decided go go all-in on age/experience, so Akey’s got a puncher’s chance.

I can’t believe Parekh and Yakimchuk, two offensive RHDs with first round pedigree, did not receive invites.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Tij Iginla also snubbed, among a couple others.

Elgin R

When the injured players (Kane, Hyman, Arvi) return, and assuming no further injuries, this is a really deep set of forwards. The issue is with the d pairings.

I agree with LT and would like to see Nurse – Kulak together full time for the month of December. The numbers (small sample size alert) are encouraging – let’s see what it is after a few hundred minutes.

Do we need Bowman to go out and get a 3LD to play with Emberson? The club does not have many assets for Bowman to use. Could Stecher or Dermott reliably fill that role? I, for one, would like to see a bigger man in that position.

Scungilli Slushy

Lots of road to travel, but the way Bowman talks give me confidence in their assessments. With LT’s numbers today it looks pretty obvious what is needed (another D), and as you said they have a lot of NHL forwards, maybe thin at centre

They will need 3 pairs playing well or well enough these playoffs

cowboy bill

Stecher is doing well, Dermott not so much. Dermott is a 3LD that can play RD, the problem is, he doesn’t fill that role for the team. If they could find an upgrade on Dermott, that would fix things. Then Nurse & Kulak could play full time together and they would have a 3LD to play with Emberson or Stecher. Or just play Nurse/ Stecher and Kulak/ Emberson.
then throw in some Nurse/Kulak and Kulak/Nurse for fun.

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cowboy bill

If only Josh Brown could play with Darnell Nurse.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

If only Josh Brown could play with Darnell Nurse.

FTFY.

Bruce McCurdy

Impression I’ve gotten so far is that Dermott is a 4LD that could “play” 4RD.

He has shown very little in limited opportunity.

cowboy bill

That’s what I meant . Thanks for the clarification 👍.

leadfarmer

since we are talking prospects, I’m sure Sam Oreilly will have a fine 3rd line C career. But I prefer pics that swing for the fence. I know Lt and myself and a few other people were hoping for Nikita Artamanov which was a 1st line talent. Who by the way is killing it and ourscoring Demidov. And of course he gets plucked at 50 OV by Carolina. Le-sigh

Elgin R

Assuming that O’Rielly makes it, a 6-1 right-shot 3C is more valuable than a 5-11 left-shot winger. We are currently running a very old Derrick Ryan as 4C because he can win a face off on a regular basis. Don’t get me wrong, scoring wingers are a valuable commodity, but I would still have taken O’Rielly over the Russian who may or may not even come to the NHL.

Scungilli Slushy

Wingers are also the easiest position to fill. Drafting consensus with stats liking folks is take the BPA. However that becomes hard to distinguish after the cream of the crop is gone

The league also doesn’t have much player movement, so trading for what you need which is the logic behind BPA is hard. Especially when what teams usually need are the rare postions – ‘right handed’ players and goalies

The way the Oilers drafted for years created holes that they couldn’t fill well. Didn’t draft enough goalies, RHC or RHD. The Leftorium ended up not delivering much for all of those picks spent. Outside of the top 5 picks, draft for need and hope you find the right players

cowboy bill

Just draft RHC’s they can usually play either wing, heck maybe even on the blue line or in goal.

JJS

I agree in general apart from the comment about limited player movement. I feel there has been a tremendous increase in young talent being moved.

Seems the GMs have less loyalty/patience with top picks and are constantly looking to upgrade in real time.

Scungilli Slushy

There has been more for sure. I looked and 14 GMs were hired in 2022 or more recently, could have something to do with more activity

leadfarmer

I don’t know if you looked lately. But no one wants to stay in Russia

OriginalPouzar

Things are looking up for the team and have been for a while. Some of the initial season production slumps are now gone and secondary/tertiary scoring has picked up.

The goaltending is settling in and the overall team defence is so much better than the general verbal – all the various models say so. Yes, the Oilers make big mistakes leading to 5-alarm chances against but guess what? ALL teams do that and it seems most at a higher rate of the Oilers – we just don’t pay attention to that as much.

This all bears out in 7-2-1 on their last 10 – with some real injuries testing depth.

Oh, and since starting 0-3, since October 14, the Oilers are a top 5 points percentage team.

Lots of room to improve still!

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