Oilers at Kings, G35 2024-25

by Lowetide
  • On the road to: VEG (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: CBJ, STL, TBAY (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 3-0-0)
  • On the road to: MIN (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: VEG, FLA, BOS, SJS, OTT (Expected 4-1-0) (Actual 4-1-0)
  • On the road to: LAK, ANA (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: UTA (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 9-4-0, 18 points in 13 games
  • December results: 8-2-0
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 21-11-2, 44 points in 34 games

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hunter1909

Before the loss during the final minutes Bouchard looked like he was handling the opposition player like he was a live grenade. Ditto Skinner – you could see the panic in his movements.

For sure it’s possible to calm these birds down, from moments like this. Both are superior players.

On the other hand, maybe Bouchard doesn’t kill the salary cap with this kind of flat out lousy play. Maybe the Oilers, his agent and the player stop acting like he’s the second coming of Paul Coffey. This he clearly isn’t – as good as he can be.

And for all of the Paul Coffey haters, he was compared to Gretzky in pure talent during his Oiler days. So no need to start panicking over these innocuous remarks.

OriginalPouzar

Some poor defending following by some atrocious goaltending and the 2-0 lead is now a 3-2 deficit and Rodrigue is coming in for Delia – third goal, AWFUL!

Tarkus

Summarizing!

Day repelled all but one of the 26 shots he faced in a 4-1 win. He was named 1st star for his efforts.

Clattenburg and Berry (!) each picked up an assist.

Wakely and Stonehouse were denied soup.

The BU game was moved to tomorrow.

Scungilli Slushy

For skaters my take is they are thin down the middle and at RD

It’s been this way for years. I like Henrique, but he’s a winger now

Nuge hasn’t been a centre for years

The ‘nice’ undersized players with their mostly reliable play is not going to work

A team like this should dominate lesser teams. The balance is too far out to do that

But… SCF!!!

Ok. But the same issues remain. Can’t score enough 5v5 or defend enough there to win key games

Now it’s on Stan. If he has the goods he might make some good deals. Not giving him much rope given the talent

Traveller

What is your definition of a key game? They won 15 playoff games last season and lost 10. If that is too broad, they won 7 and lost 1 when either facing elimination or a chance to close out a series. And they defended well in game 7 of the final as well.

This year’s team isn’t there yet, but it is well ahead of last year’s team at this point.

OriginalPouzar

Savoie on the PP, comes off the half wall towards the slot, passes back, down-low to Pederson for a one-timer and a 2-0 lead.

Savoie is really starting to come on – impacting the game most shifts now.

OriginalPouzar

Holy Hell what a play by Matvey Petrov – gets a pass with speed at the offensive blueline – takes on 3 defenders, a little dipsy doodle and a pass across the seam for a back door tap in for Carrick.

Play of Petrov’s pro career!

OriginalPouzar
Side

Shesterkin pulled with a .615, giving up 5 goals on 13 shots.

Paying $11.5 million for a player who doesn’t even play every game, and for the games they play, may not even play the full 60 minutes, is crazy.

Lewis Grant

I would take him in a heartbeat at that salary.

There is nothing more valuable than a consistently good goaltender. The Jets (not a strong team) will always be a contender as long as Hellebuyck is in his semi-prime.

OriginalPouzar

Bako lineup the same but Hamblin out for De Jong (the said yesterday he wouldn’t play both ends of the back to backs) and Delia starting.

flyfish1168

I love the way the knuckleheads lost today with demko in net.

Harpers Hair

They were missing Quinn Hughes, Filip Hronek and Elias Pettersson.

Carson Soucy and Tyler Myers is not a top pairing you want to go to war with and Vincent Desharnais was brutal.

winchester

The man said he loved how they lost. Your response is irrelevant.

flyfish1168

Come on, 4-1 with less than 5 minutes left. with demko in the net, you can’t hold a 3-goal lead. There are no excuses, the Krakens are missing Ebs and their # 1 goalie Daccord. LOL

Harpers Hair

Did you watch the game?

Desharnais had two horrible giveaways that led directly to goals against.

He is not an NHL player.

Traveller

Did you? Because this didn’t happen! At all! Not even close!

flyfish1168

It’s irrelevant if I watched or not. The outcome would still be the same. The Knuckleheads lost a 3-goal lead with less than 5 minutes left. They lost 5 or 4 shifts in a row on home ice with the last line change. That is a fact and laughable.

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Bruce McCurdy

Game summary says Desharnais was on the ice for 1 GF, 0.

maybe you mistook him for #57 &/or #47.

OriginalPouzar

Deharnais was a targeted off-season signing by the Canucks – for 2 years at $2MM per year.

Whether he is or is not an NHL player is neither here nor there, he is part of the team.

A team that just became the 3rd team in history to be up by 3 with less than 5 minutes left and lose.

Side

Allvin should have asked himself why the Oilers had no interest in re-signing Desharnais (rather obvious). Big red flag missed.

Harpers Hair

Yep.

Kind of like the Jef Skinner whiff.

Sierra

The 2 aren’t the least comparable, but not a surprising comment from an Oilers hater.

Traveller

Pretty obvious you didn’t even watch the game so have no clue what you are talking about. Probably wouldn’t even if you watched the game though.

The pairing of Desharnais and Brannstrom were not on for any goal against at any strength but were out for a goal for. As a pair, they also had the best on ice shot metrics on the team and it wasn’t even close.

With stats line he had, hard to figure him being significantly responsible for the loss.

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teddyturnbuckle

Thought the Oilers played a pretty good game. McDavid wasn’t great and Bouchard was terrible. That OT goal started with a loss of possession from Bouchard. At one point in the second period he made 4 bad passes in a row and multiple times tonight he was too cute on the blue line which ended badly.

LMHF#1

0 SOG for 97 in that game against those guys?

Unacceptable.

NickShaver

Agreed. I kept waiting for McDavid to have a positive impact on the game at 5 on 5. Alas, it never came. Credit to the Kings for neutralizing him.

OriginalPouzar

Nucks were up 4-1 with less than 5 minutes left against a non-playoff team and lost in OT so there IS that…..

Funnybird

Haha- inadvertently set the troll off…Or maybe you meant to.

Darryl8843

Shoot high on Skinner. He struggles mightily on those

iwin76

I think league wide most goals scored on a clean shot are hitting the top corners. Not sure Skinner would be much different.

Reja

He’s deep in his net the shooter see’s nothing if he comes out.

Darryl8843

He’s always on his knees. He needs to be a couple inches taller to play that way

Ranford.85

I do understand calls get missed, it’s a fast game.
In OT, Bouch’s stick getting slashed out of his hands, and the footage of Skinner letting the ref know his helmet was loose…. those are blatant. Those aren’t missed calls, they’re just simply not called. Le sigh.

Take the point and on to tomorrow’s match up.

Funnybird

I don’t get the slash on Bouchard. That one seems to get called 100% of the time in today’s game. It’s almost like the ref wanted to show up Bouch on that one

Reja

Oilers were in desperate need of a change I believe Skinner was using some gamesmanship to get a whistle.

NickShaver

Gadzooks! That was some display of a double standard in reffing… Arvidsson gets called for a high stick, nothing in favour of Hyman. Kuemper gets the whistle for a loose helmet, Skinner gets “let them play” and a game winner against him.

Having said that, the refs are not the reason the Oilers lost, although they were a contributing factor. Byfield’s line dominating and the Oilers not having an adequate response to them, Henrique getting owned (by Byfield’s line), McDavid being neutralized or not being up for the game, Skinner giving up a weak OT winner, and a lack of killer instinct (inability to shut down the Kings in the 3rd, ineffective 2nd PP with PP1 staying out way too long, and general inability to score to take a 2 goal lead) did them in.

tapper

Unsurprisingly bush league. Missed 3 calls in last 5 minutes, let alone rest of game.

Paulie

Stu got refs attention about loose strap, ref did nothing

Darryl8843

California officiating at its finest

DevilsLettuce

Henrique standing still

Funnybird

-4

NickShaver

If you’re referring to the moment on the LA PP (I think that was the moment), I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Henrique was in the slot and just watched.

DevilsLettuce

That too, but overtime. Watching Byfield skate past him with the puck thinking he’ll be covered during 3×3.

Henrique completely had his head up his arse today. Worse game in Oiler silks by a kilometer.

OriginalPouzar

I’ll take a hard-earned point on the road against a very good and structured team coming out of the break.

Now, go get the second point.

OriginalPouzar

Perry taking Podz’s spot on that shift – I have liked Podz’s game today….

OriginalPouzar

Henrique with a failed clear on the PK – it was a tough clear but he failed – he’s NOT having a good game.

OriginalPouzar

Knew an Oilers penalty was being called shortly…..

Gerta Rauss

Refs will feel the need to give LA a PP here shortly, just because

Gerta Rauss

lol, oh dear…Arvidsson made that easy for them

DevilsLettuce

Coach could try not having Henrique out against the Byfield line.

JJS

Or he could put some effort into his job. There’s that option

DevilsLettuce

So keep throwing him out there until he does? Bench his ass and send a message.

JJS

And send out Janmark? The winger playing centre? Only so many options and Kings have last change

OriginalPouzar

Henrique just lets the attacker go to the net untouched…..

Funnybird

Been a rough afternoon for him

JJS

Henri is getting hard to watch. Not a strong play there

Scungilli Slushy

Would love to see Connor’s line get an EV goal. One from each of the top 2 as a baseline, add PP, the other two lines, attribute D goals the the forward line they’re with

OriginalPouzar

Very solid road period by the Oilers – very solid period, road or home, by the Oilers.

OriginalPouzar

Wow, great strength by Kapanen there.

DevilsLettuce

Draisaitl is a ice tilting monster

StixMalone

Arvidsson haha kings

OriginalPouzar

Thank you Gavrikov…… a top pairing d-man making an egregious turnover.

Nice passes by Drai and Podz – great finish Arvy.

DevilsLettuce

Great shot Nuge!

fishman

A very merry Nugent power play goal!!!!!!

OriginalPouzar

That was an ELITE puck retrieval by Hyman – like one of the best board plays I’ve seen.

Moonlight

LA just does this constant subtle interference that rarely gets called. So frustrating.

Scungilli Slushy

They should learn to do it back. It’s not going away

OriginalPouzar

McDavid should look to get his skating in to second and third gear this afternoon…..

fishman

Nice to see Connor pop Mikey with the reverse hit.

Darryl8843

And rather comical watching Mikey complain to the ref after

OriginalPouzar

10 goals for Foegele – all at 5 on 5.

It appears has was/is NOT a function of Drai only.

Scungilli Slushy

I’ll give him his props if he doesn’t get owned in playoffs again

DevilsLettuce

Perhaps he could of produced anything without Draisaitl the past few seasons when he was a Oiler.

godot10

He is playing on the 3rd line with a legit top six power forward centrewinger in Byfield.

Byfield is eating the Oilers 3rd line alive so far. Byfield against most 3rd lines is a mismatch.

If Byfield is dominating, Foegele doesn’t have to play much defense.

StixMalone

Of course Foegle….

OriginalPouzar

Foegle/Byfield have been a load for the Oilers in-zone so far.

Scungilli Slushy

#28 6’0 184 #19 6’0 195 #42 6’1 194

#37 6’2 204 #55 6’5 225 #10 6’2 220

None of the Oilers on that line are particularly aggressive players, which ties in to recent discussions about that and size

Goal 1 the D were 49 and 51 R/R and undersized, Goal 2 was 25 and 27 L/L. Nurse was the only typical size and weight player on the ice for either GA

If the smaller guys could use their overall speed advantage, be smarter than the bigger opponents, and be strong on sticks, they could get by. Not so far

OriginalPouzar

Overpassing by the Kings leads to a broken play goal – Skinner slow to recognize on that ugly one.

DevilsLettuce

Nuge needs to fight someone.

OriginalPouzar

McDavid not expecting that pass in the slot from Hyman after the missed break – not sure he’s fully engaged right now – he’ll get going.

Paulie

On the LA goal, looks like Stu came off the right post a bit and Byfield launched a good high shot in the now open space

Darryl8843

I’m not sure why Gary thinks I like all these afternoon games.

OriginalPouzar

I do – better than 8pm (if I’m not busy with client responsibilities).

Darryl8843

I’m the exact opposite

OriginalPouzar

Byfield just beat Connor Brown and ripped one under the bar – credit the power forward on that one.

Scungilli Slushy

So of these 9 teams that have been dominant making the finals and winning Cups in the post lockout era, these teams made the finals back to back – number of times, Cups:

Wings 2 (1)
Pens 2 (3)
Panthers 2 (1)

The Bolts did it in 3 consecutive seasons, winning 2. The Pens have have also been killers when they get there, 3 of 4, the other team with an all time great. As I have said over the years, it’s not unreasonable to think the McDavid/Draisaitl Oilers should have been able to walk in those circles

Making the playoffs isn’t the marker for me (of course you have to be able to), 16 teams do every season, but most don’t really have a chance to win the Cup. You can’t win every season, but you can be right there when you have the players the Oilers have, and win your fair (or unfair) share

Hopefully we are at that time. I have more confidence in this management group so far, their abilities in assessing and making decisions in a timely manner, being able to make good deals, actually making deals, and finding value players that take a team over the top

It’s been shown by several posters here over the years that teams that win actively make deals, and quickly address roster issues and organizational depth issues. They are always active in all of the aspects of running a team. They aren’t sentimental, as they shouldn’t be

The Knights, Bolts and Panthers have traded popular central or core players aggressively (Fluery with the sword through his back meme), and they haven’t gone off the rails with team culture as some others have. Zito spent the summer trying to trade Ekblad. It’s about a culture of winning and what that takes. It’s pro sports. These things are the main factor in winning, once you have the core players. The correct vision, and the ability to get to it, or close enough

DevilsLettuce

Kapanen! You puck magnet beaut!

GB&Q

Kapscori Ktappeditin!

OriginalPouzar

Awful rebound by Kuemper (as I said “fire it Browny”) – Kapanen full credit for driving the net.

3rd line goal baby!

NickShaver

I’m looking for:

  • the good times to continue rolling, both against the Kings and for their overall record
  • 3rd line to score
  • Bouchard to be rested up and out of whatever funk he was in recently in terms of his effectiveness from a defensive perspective. I’m not saying he’s ever been mistaken for Rod Langway, but he’s not as bad as he has been lately.
  • RNH to be feeling alright and getting back on track. 2 points for him and 2 for the Oilers
  • J Skinner to score, if for no other reason than to improve his trade capital, although I do think, as Lowetide and others on here have mentioned recently, that he will find his way and contribute meaningfully in the playoffs.
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