Ducks at Oilers, G38 2024-25

by Lowetide
  • At home to: ANA (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: SEA, BOS, PIT, CHI (Expected 2-1-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: LAK (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: MIN, COL, VAN (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: WAS, VAN, BUF, SEA, DET (Expected 3-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected results: 8-4-2, 18 points in 14 games
  • December results: 9-3-1
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 22-12-3, 47 points in 37 games

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OriginalPouzar

Savoie with assists on the tying goal in the last minute and OT winner.

Curlock:

Matt Savoie points per game in his last six games:

2

0

2

2

3

3

12 points in his last games. 3 points tonight.

Victoria Oil

I listened to the end of the game on radio. Rodrigue stopped about 8 or 9 shots in the OT including 5 while Carrick was in the box. I believe he stopped 31 out of 35 overall.

OriginalPouzar

He stopped about 4 on a 4 on 3 PP.

DevilsLettuce

Draisaitl is German for game winner.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Disco Stu stayin’ alive in the big moment.

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GB&Q

Spitzenkäse!! 🚨

OriginalPouzar

Savoie with the zone entry on the 4 on 4. A bit later he finds the soft area near the slot, takes a pass from Carrick (I believe) and buries it for the 3-2 lead.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

King Leon with the timely snipe for a meaningful goal.

SKOilerFan

Ducks F showing up the lack of speed on the back end. Going to be tough to be patient to wait until the deadline to shore that up

OriginalPouzar

They’ve managed to be the 2nd best team in the NHL over the last two plus months (before tonight’s win) so I think they can be patient. They are racking up points better than 30 other teams over a long stretch of play.

Scungilli Slushy

I am concerned that there is no improvement against teams that defend the Oilers like that

That Stu is an average goalie at best

It doesn’t matter what they are doing reg season. President Trophy winners don’t win Cups

They aren’t making progress in playoff ways. Connor is playing his worst hockey in a long while

Leon is their best player meaning Connor Ek and Bouch aren’t

I don’t care about reg seasons, I care about Cups

As it stands with there being at least 4 WC teams also playing as good, with what I am seeing they will be lucky to get through because they are having to rely on luck too much

This isn’t a normal roster for a team, that is the difference. They should be able to be a dominant team most games

It’s a shame. Perhaps something will change. I will post tomorrow what I found about Cup winners since the lock out

Also, very happy that they won!

OriginalPouzar

Rocket Leon!

yycyegyvr

It would be interesting to see cup winners and home ice advantage in the modern era.

Does the team with home ice win 50% of the time? 60? 70?

SKOilerFan

Have only seen the 3rd, but man was the D coverage sloppy for the first half of that period and no sign of a backtrack from any forward. Ducks don’t look like the team on the B2B

SKOilerFan

D backing into row 3 and forwards MIA. Getting worked all over the ice this period

OriginalPouzar

Looked like Skinner whiffed on that one.

prefonmich

A ton of traffic- don’t think he saw it

SKOilerFan

There was a screen there but I think it’s expected most goalies should work around a screen that high on a wrister from the point

Moonlight

Agreed. There’s no way the first two Ducks goals should have beat Skinner. Weak goals. As a Vikings fan, Skinner reminds me of Kirk Cousins. Decent stats but crucial errors at key points of games that swing momentum away from us.

OriginalPouzar

Oilers dominated the 2nd period.

A high risk grenade by Brown has made this a game but the Oilers should be able to re-extend the lead and close this out by getting back to what they did all 2nd period long.

OriginalPouzar

Philp tips the Corcoran shot to give the Condors the 2-1 lead.

Play started by a great rush up the right side through the neutral zone for zone entry by Philp. He finished it 15 seconds later.

prefonmich

That goal was on Drai not on Bouch

prefonmich

Sorry Drai! Correction- Connor Brown. Guaranteed between periods discussion is more care at the offensive blue line!

OriginalPouzar

Bad pass by Connor Brown that Bouch can’t handle – changes the game.

prefonmich

I thought it was a Drai pass?

Moonlight

All things considered, there’s no way that puck should get by Skinner. He has to make those saves.

OriginalPouzar

Great defensive play/stick by Nurse there – wow!

OriginalPouzar

Absolutely wild pressure by the Oilers – wild stuff in the Ducks o-zone.

fishman

Just when it looked like Ducks were out of gas they score…..

fishman

Oh Cory how did you not score there?????

OriginalPouzar

Great rush defence by the Condors causes a two on one the other way and a perfect pass from Philp to Griffith for the 1-0 lead.

fishman

All the respect in the world for Ryan but would really like to see Philip get a shot with the big team. Have to wonder what the plan is for him???

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Helllloooooooo Nurse!

OriginalPouzar

Great pass by Skinner and fantastic snipe by Nurse.

Big extending the lead goal.

OriginalPouzar

Need to extend this lead.

OriginalPouzar

Great communication by Bouch and Ek on that rush defence.

OriginalPouzar

McDavid and then Drai (twice) with some potentially dangerious o-zone/o-zone blueline turnovers.

3 in a minutes’ span,

Tarkus

Summarizing!

O’Reilly and Clattenburg each had 1+1 in lopsided wins, the former with a team-high 5 SOG.

Nicholl picked up an assist.

Day had a quiet night in net, facing only ten shots and stopping all but one for the W.

Berry did not acquire soup.

Stonehouse did not dress.

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OriginalPouzar

Fairly low event period but the PPG makes it a good one.

Kudos to the bottom 2 lines who had some very good shifts and created the PP and PPG.

cowboy bill

NUGE!!!!

OriginalPouzar

Great defence there by McDavid after a poor pass by Bouch!

fishman

Lacomb with a nice deflection for an own goal! Atta boy Nuge!

cowboy bill

NUGE!!!

OriginalPouzar

Great pass by Nuge for the PPG – check that, off the Duck stick an in.

4th line draws the PP – major contributor to the goal – 2 great shifts by the 4th line.

prefonmich

If the Oil can figure how to get all 4 lines rolling and better distribute the ice time, it will make a huge difference for keeping Davo and Drai healthy and fresh through playoffs. Hope this is what KK is trying to sort out with all the shuffling. How is your wife doing OP?

fishman

Another good kill.

fishman

Pretty rare to see 97 + 29 in the box together???

OriginalPouzar

Pretty weak call go give a 4 on 3.

McDavid sees his buddy in the box and needs to join I guess.

OriginalPouzar

Excellent o-zone cycle shift with a couple pucks to the net by the make-shift 3rd line without a center.

OriginalPouzar

Followed up by and o-zone 4th line shit.

OriginalPouzar

Jarventie still hasn’t skated yet.

Its NOT the surgically repaired knee (but, recall, he has had issues with the other knee as well).

OriginalPouzar

Podz looks faster upon return…..

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OriginalPouzar

Lets hope there is no fracture/break on that foot/ankle for Podz – sigh.

OriginalPouzar

Back on bench.

OriginalPouzar

McDavid has top speed going early but not the “shooting mentality”.

knighttown

Since this thread has become a bit of a Leon for MVP thread I think it’s important to note that we most certainly suffer from observational bias. We don’t get to watch MacKinnon or Kaprizov or Kucherov as closely as we do our guys so we just assume they can’t be as good because our guys are so much better than the rest of our team.

I was in Tampa for the game against the Rangers and I came out of there blown away by Kucherov. He’s a wholly unique player. So, so subtle and deft. I think he has better vision than either 29 or 97. The puck is on his stick and off again in split seconds. Every touch is remarkable. He’s very Messi-like in that regard. He made one play where he got a pass in the high slot and felt the pressure from the back and when the defender lunged he jumped backwards, the exact opposite direction every person in the arena thought he would go.

Then you hear Halls interview on Chiclets maybe where he says Kaprizov plays perfect hockey. If you watch his game he never once makes a bad play.

Dint get me wrong, I think 97 is the best player on the planet but that group that includes Leon, Kaprizov, Nate, Makar and Kucherov are all exceptional.

Tarkus

Off the draw, Clattenburg powers his way to the net and deposits a backhand five-hole for his 13th goal.

Tarkus

A nifty play by O’Reilly as he breaks in on a 2-on-1, sells the shot then sends a pass across for a tap-in.

He has since added his 16th goal of the year.

It’s not even halfway through the game and it’s already 8-0 London. Nicholl is one of just four skaters without a point yet.

healthyscratch
Boil-in-the-Oil

Excellent performance, super emotional tribute. I really like Norah Jones’ voice.

General McDavid

In a similar vein, I loved this video that Chris’ widow authorized for his amazing cover of this GNR standard: https://youtu.be/myZ32Pf-5PE?si=RiU9sJIqYVzqJRs_

Incidentally Axl was an early champion of Chris long before Soundgarden broke big. The first time I heard Soundgarden was over the PA in Rexall waiting for Guns to take the stage on the Use Your Illusion tour. GnR were 45 mins late taking the stage (true to their reputation) and Edmonton’s rock fans did the wave for about 10 mins straight.

Great concert and great memories

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OriginalPouzar

Brown returns from illness for the Condors but Wanner remains out.

Forwards the same but Hamblin back in and he’ll take Gubbe’s spots as 3C with Petrov and Wright and Grubbe will center DeJong and Berglund.

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SoCaloil

ah Norah Jones
saw her this year in Houston this year; last stop of her tour
she’s an alchemist. Can turn a song to gold
her new Album is fantastic.

Go Oilers Go.

OriginalPouzar

One thing that is notable in Drai’s 5 on 5 production, as compared to MacKinnon, is quality of teamate.

Drai:

302 minutes with Podz (306 without)
289 minutes with Bouch
260 minutes with Ek
223 minutes with Kulak
215 minutes with Nurse
192 minutes with Arvidsson
189 minutes with McDavid

MacKinnon:

480 minutes with Rantanen (189 without)
447 minutes with Makar
376 with Lehkonen
375 with Toew
200 with Girard

WOW

knighttown

I think some blame for Canada’s performances goes to Ticketmaster and those that support it including, I assume, Hockey Canada. I didn’t follow Ottawa prices but here in Halifax tickets were going for thousands. When you are dropping mortgage payments to see an event (like Taylor Swift) you have every right to demand an incredible show and there’s no way these kids can live up to it. So they crumble and then get destroyed on social media by those who forked over the money.

Bring the events back to medium sized towns away from Ticketmaster and the whole temperature will drop.

Reja

For me I’ve always looked at Leon as a mixture of Frank Mahovlich-Peter Stastny-Alexandra Yakushev. I think Leon most resembles Stastny who lost a few of his prime years due to the Cold War. The Nordiques were a fun team to watch only second to the Oilers.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Interesting comp.

Best modern comparison I’ve seen is a hybrid of Peter Forsberg and Joe Thornton.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Forsberg for me too.

The Avs are my second team. Joe Sakic is my all time favourite player. I watched a ton of Forsberg. Drai has a very similar game. Biggest upside of Drai? He is infinitely more durable.

leadfarmer

Don’t see it. Forsberg liked to pass the puck or pass it into the net sort of like Mcdavid likes to do. Drai likes to one time it home

General McDavid

Tough to identify a perfect comp for Leon because he truly is a unicorn. Very mobile big man with a sniper’s touch in close and considered the best passer in the league (by his peers). Leon is that ultra rare 5 tool Ken Griffey Jr player.

Visually, Thornton and Forsberg present as good comps. Both big playmakers and superior passers. But their career shooting % was 14 and 14.7 respectively and neither threatened the 50 goal mark. Leon’s career shooting % is an incredible 18.5 and 3 times (and counting) he’s topped 50.

As a scorer, a surprisingly good comp is Cam Neely. Career shooting % of 18.4 with three 50 goal seasons. Like Leon, you simply couldn’t get the puck off him when Neely had it against the boards. Could cycle til the cows came home.

If I had to pick a comp that resembles Leon’s dominance as both a shooter and playmaker, it would be another Bruin, Phil Esposito.

Like Leon, Espo was a lethal sniper in close. Even 3 years from retirement as a Ranger, he pots 42 with a shooting % of 19.5. Phil also made marginal wingers much better with his playmaking and cycle dominance. When he was paired with elite Ws like the 72 Summit Series, he was the best player in the world.

The brash Esposito was nothing like the quiet Draisaitl off the ice, but on the ice, they were/are two Clydesdales who could do it all.

Here’s a good Espo video: https://youtu.be/NWV7PlS2t_I?si=Smh8ZjZLkygzvydD

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General McDavid

Btw Espo was also notorious for his lengthy shifts, a trait that Leon has also demonstrated (potentially to his detriment).

813.52Ran

Phil Esposito was my first thought.

General McDavid

Stastny WAS a great and hugely underrated player. Kind of gets overlooked because of the number of dominant C’s in the 80s. Gretz. Mario. Hawerchuk. Trottier. Yzerman. etc.

Funny, I remember him as a bigger C then. Shows how much times change. 6’1″ 200lbs is not a big player by today’s standards.

Reja

Statsny lost 4 prime years due to politics he probably ends up top 8-9 all-time. Players were smaller in the Eighties but Leon sure looks like Peter when he gets rumbling.

Reja

It’s unbelievable if Connor and Leon continue with a top 5 PP add in OT over the next 9 years these two will end up top 10 all time that’ll make 4 Oilers plus a defenceman who’s in the top 20 second only to Bourque. Edmonton Oiler Fans are Royalty. The nearest Flame will be out of the top 40. Suck on it crybaby Hrudey.

Reja

I know I’m projecting a great 2nd half of a career for Leon and it starts tonight with his 1st hat-trick of the season.

General McDavid

Assuming good health. Knocks on wood.

VanIsleOil

A good trivia question that most people get wrong. Who was the 2nd top point getter in the 80’s decade?

1 Gretz. 1837 points
2 STASTNY. 986 points
3 Dionne. 980 points
4 Kurri. 950 points
Stastny was one helluva player!

General McDavid

Nords were an offensive juggernaut in the 80s. The Stastnys. Cloutier. Goulet. Sakic.

Miss that franchise. Those Habs v Nords playoff tilts were bloodsport. Second only to the BoA.

Reja

Some great rivalries Blues-Hawks, Rangers-Islanders,Pens-Flyers and one that never gets mentioned were the Whalers-Bruins I think they met 3 years in a row in the playoffs absolutely brutal intensity.

General McDavid

Pretty to easy to build up the hatred when Dmen could tattoo you with a crosscheck in the spine 5 times a game!

NickShaver

I’ll be looking for:

  • a sharper Oilers team
  • something awesome to come from the line changes (even if only for one game)
  • Brown to make us wonder if he should permanently stay on McDavid’s wing
  • Skinner to be the better goalie.
OriginalPouzar

With the Ducks playing last night and having to travel from Winnipeg, Oilers need to take advantage of this “scheduling advantage” tonight- they shouldn’t need to but its another factor.

Opposite tomorrow as they travel and play on the road tomorrow night – travel is just as far (both Seattle and Winnipeg are 2 hour flight apparently) – I presume immigration is streamlined for these guys.

rev.hans

Hitting & “success”
In today’s Athletic you talk about Sabres’ Jokiharju as a possible Sather-style acquisition. You mention he may be fading because Sabres’ coach wants more physicality. A perfect fit for the Oilers, a team where physicality is not a requirement for success?
Much is made about “hitting” as the path to success. Too much, I think. I’m not seeing the connection, though I get the thrill we as fans get from seeing “the enemy” solidly crunched.
Two dynasties: 70s Habs, 80s Oilers. They were not known for “hitting” or physicality. Others were (80s Islanders).
I see Knoblauch coaching a skill team, not a “hitting” team (they’re not mutually exclusive, but neither are they dependent on each other). Your view? And especially viz Jokiharju?
And, is Bowman the Younger of similar view viz “hitting” /success?

BornInAGretzkyJersey

The 80s Oilers not known for physicality?

Okay, then.

rev.hans

I’m out on a limb here. I did not pay attention to them at the time. Certainly they had players who dominated physically (ie Messier, among others). But at least two of the shining lights, as I understand it, were skill players, not physical players. I’m thinking of Gretzky, Coffee. Correct me if I’m wrong.
I’m curious about where the 80s Oilers ranked with others in terms of “hits.”

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Coffey had the most Gordie Howe hat tricks on the team during the dynasty era, and he was shipped out early. So, safe to say, he was more than just a skill player.

SVR

Messier, Anderson, Linseman, McClelland, Hunter, Hughes, Lumley, Semenko, Brown, McSorley, Fogolin, Jackson, Gregg, Beukeboom, Smith, Lowe off the top of my head were above average physical players

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