Oilers at Capitals, G57 2024-25

by Lowetide
  • At home to: TOR (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: STL, CHI (Expected 2-0-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • At home to: COL (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: PHI, WAS, TBY, FLA (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • Overall expected results: 5-3-0, 10 points in 8 games
  • February result: 2-3-0
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 34-18-4, 72 points in 56 games

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fishman

Yea the cupboard looks pretty bare….. Pretty hard to stockpile talent when you trade all your draft picks. Scouting needs to start looking under rocks to find some undrafted prospects.

Gaz Gazzersson

Closed door meeting [clap clap clapclapclap]

Yukon Jerk

5 goals on 20 shots
2 days in a row
Woof

fishman

The Oiler 8 wingers are invisible. Getting very little done. Our offence has been reduced to 29 + 97 and some contributions from the D. 97 has looked a bit off all season. Combine that with less than average goaltending and here we are. Obviously we are still a top 5 team but showing very little last 5 games or so.

Crazy Pedestrian

Frickin oilers. Man they suck right now.
no way their winning a cup this year.

Harpers Hair

Pretty good chance we’re watching the cup winner in this game.

They’re wearing red.

delooper

Oilers aren’t just losing they’re propelling all their opponents to new heights.

prefonmich

Ugh that was bad Klingberg on that shift. Ugly

813.52Ran

They’re laughing at us.

Neumann

Just getting crushed all over the ice.

OriginalPouzar

That was VERY VERY VERY poor by John Klingberg…..

delooper

Looked like a bad pass to me.

LMHF#1

That idiotic PK system doesn’t work.

prefonmich

This road trip could get really ugly really fast

fishman

Could??

OriginalPouzar

Imperative to get this kill to give themselves a chance…

OriginalPouzar

Nope!

Shamus23

Might be really good for this team to get shit kicked 6 or 7 – 1 today. This is a sad performance. Lol 5-1. This team needs a whole lot more than 2-3 additions

Shamus23

So now the Nuclear option. Lol. With 30 minutes left. Which leaves no other lines that look doom at all today

Shamus23

Well back to McD with Podz and Kappanen

Shamus23

This team looks slow and old. They have pretty much looked that way for a month

prefonmich

They are playing such a disjointed terrible brand of hockey. They look like more of a last place team aside from Drai

Mato

I really hate to say this but they look old and slow.

prefonmich

Old and slow and they only get hit, they don’t give hits. I honestly don’t know what Jackson was thinking in terms of roster construction with the signings he made. I’ve stayed quiet to now about it to give it some time but this team is skill without will and too many guys on the downside of their career peak.

OriginalPouzar

Its Ovi but that is a stoppable shot for sure.

prefonmich

Did you mean blockable. Dmen just parted the seas and let Ovie just snap it from right in the centre of the ice. No attempt to get in the way whatsoever.

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OriginalPouzar

What a steal by Drai in the neutral zone and then holds the puck to set up Ekholm for a solid chance. Drai is so good.

OriginalPouzar

Rip that puck Connor.

Neumann

Clock management to end both those PPs. Have to be aware of when the penalized player is coming out of the box.

OriginalPouzar

Big save by Pickard on Chychrun there.

OriginalPouzar

Matt Savoie should be on PP2 – even if they have to go with 1D on it.

Tarkus

The Oilers did as much to kill that penalty as the Caps did.

Shamus23

Well 2nd pp in a row. 1st one was stationary. Score here boys

anti-Trust Issues

Oilers not generating many chances at 5v5. Washington taking penalties is keeping EDM in the game.

leadfarmer

I must be in the minority but I’m not one bit surprised the oilers are playing putrid hockey out of the break and will piss 3 games down their legs.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

It’s the Oilers way.

dsr29

Ekholm turnover. More terrible hockey today.

OriginalPouzar

Failed clear by Ekholm and an AWFUL goal on Pickard – AWFUL!

prefonmich

Yup and a boneheaded penalty on Arvidsson

Scungilli Slushy

The Oilers stand 4th in the conference, with the Jets and Stars smoking hot. The Knights and Wild are also on winning streaks. I don’t see playoffs in doubt, but seeding sure is, not a lot of wiggle room to close out the season

The team has had it’s challenges, and there may be injuries as well. Mature teams can still win through that and often do, the caveat being goaltending, that is what usually causes the best teams to struggle, they know how to play through it, and that is based on discipline, managing the puck and playing the system

They were winning games at a high enough clip, but there are a lot of indicators saying they needed to play better, the last stretch Lady Luck wasn’t helping. In the conference:

Goal Diff 4th (standings follow this closely most seasons)
Regulation Wins (team strength) 7th
PTS% 4th
Losses 5th least

GF 5th
GA 5th

5v5 GF 3rd
5v5 GA 9th
5v5 SV% 10th
5v5 HDSV% 9th

5v5 xGF% 1st
5v5 FF% 1st

5v5 HDCF% 1st
5v5 HDGF% 3rd

5v5 HDCF 1st
5v5 HDCA 2nd
5v5 SCF 1st
5c5 SCA 5th

5v5 SCF% 2nd
5v5 SF% 1st

Not great, not bad. But this team should be great. Something isn’t jiving, given the scoring results lag the opportunities as they do. Could be a combination of a lot of things, but I remain concerned it has a lot to do with how they are being asked to play. When so many players are off, normally that regresses if it’s just the players slumping. Or it’s coaching, as a lot of analysts I’ve heard say. Hopefully we see them get it together starting today

The other thing I see here is that scoring is following chances at 5v5 but could be better, and GA is following the save percentages. Given the defending numbers overall are strong that points at the goalies. Of course major breakdowns is an Oiler feature, sadly, and that isn’t shown in aggregate numbers

LT may be onto something, that Bowman might see that better goaltending corrects the biggest weakness the most directly, if he can find it. Goaltending is lagging everything else, and it’s well down the list of 16 conference foes

In baseball the difference between high hitting averages and mediocre is a small number of hits, that’s how close it is with the world’s best. Goaltending is no different – you can play mostly well, but it’s that one save you don’t make, and when it is, that is all the difference, and what divides the top from the middle

Spotting a goal a game is significant to overcome, that extra save can mean closing out games more easily (less taxing) and avoiding extra time. The margins at the top are very thin, as we are seeing

Neumann

I see a number of 1st in 5v5 stats you provide. What exactly do you think is the problem with the way they play on the OZone? It’s not on your list, I believe it isn’t publicly available, but they bring it up on the broadcast the Oilers are one of the best if not the best at OZone possession. This team keeps the puck better than anyone else and attacks when they believe they have a high percentage shot. Finishing, as you’ve noted, is likely their biggest weakness (not a weakness relative the rest of the league).

prefonmich

Arvidsson with a very dumb penalty. I am not in the least bit impressed by him.

anti-Trust Issues

Signing 53 and 33 and letting Holloway and Broberg walk looks like a bigger mistake the longer this season goes

prefonmich

I hope Bowman can pull something out of the fire but it could be that the Jeff Jackson signings are the absolute downfall of this team for this year. Sure seems like nothing rhyming with any of the new guys.

anti-Trust Issues

Not just this year – holloway and broberg were slated to be big pieces for the next few years…

LMHF#1

Connor with the abandoned coverage.

Taking the regular season completely off at this point?

Scungilli Slushy

I’m not sure what he needs, but it’s something. This is where those not on the ice show their merit, or if they aren’t up to the task of coaching/managing a generational player

I’m starting to think KK might be heading into trouble, probably not in season, but there is guy with a stellar record the manager knows pretty well, not up to much

OriginalPouzar

Lucky bounce (off a lost draw) – damn.

Harpers Hair

Bouchard’s man scores.

LMHF#1

McDavid.

OriginalPouzar

Factually incorrect.

Troll post.

OriginalPouzar

Caps can zip the puck around the offensive zone.

OriginalPouzar

Hell of a give and go by McDavid and Drai there.

Also, Bouch with a couple very dangerous shots so far – getting them through with traffic. He’s got a goal coming soon.

OriginalPouzar

Matt Savoie’s first bad turnover as an Oiler – bad pass on the 3 on 2 and the puck went back quickly the other way – not egregious but it was there.

Knob will note that to him and put him right back out there I’m sure.

winchester

Team is playing like a veteran team that is low on energy. It seems they lack enthusiasm to get through regular season.

Almost predictable when viewing the youth that went out, and how bottom 6 was assembled.

Savoie will help, unless he gets traded. More likely he takes the need away from the forward group and thus Bowman goes looking for goalies or dmen

I remain convinced deadline targets must be high motor physical types of players that bring energy to every shift.

813.52Ran

Every goalie in the league knows the pass is going to Draisaitl on the powerplay. The question is can they get over fast enough to stop it. Did I just see the Oilers screen the goalie – not for the shot – but for the pass to Draisaitl. That split second delay in seeing the pass (that everyone know is coming) is brilliant, if that’s what they are doing. And if they aren’t on purpose, they should be.

OriginalPouzar

Emberson looking off McDavid to shoot that puck (McDavid was asking for it).

After 4 shots on net, I wonder if Coffey is telling him to fire the puck more.

OriginalPouzar

Matt Savoie is so good on the boards – this is continuation of what he did in the AHL and I’m so happy to see it translating so far.

fishman

Hopefully his strong play continues and he is here to stay.

LMHF#1

Anyone on the broadcast going to point out the obvious fact that when Skinner pulled the puck to his backhand it leapt almost foot in the air? No?

They just don’t pay attention. It wasn’t that he got caught – he made his move and the puck bounced. Sucks but it happens. Only criticism I’d have is he should’ve gone forehand.

OriginalPouzar

Hell of a play by McDavid – nice to have him impact the game nice and early.

OriginalPouzar

Hyman down the lineup on absolute merit.

I likely more mad at him than any other forward as his ineffectiveness has been a severe lack of effort and this started before the break.

I mean, Arvy suck and so does Janmark recently but their terribleness has not been lack of effort like Hyman (yes, I know Bouchard is in the picture on this as well).

anti-Trust Issues

I think a goalie acquisition is looking increasingly more likely. Stu is having a down year, but I hope they don’t move on from him and instead find a veteran who can push him for starts like Gibson, but I really, REALLY don’t want them to move out a 1st or a top prospect to do so. The cupboard is bare and the Oilers can’t keep mortgaging the future to fill holes/needs on the current roster.

daniel had a good post after last night’s game re: 97’s wingers, suggesting that if Kane can return to form he might be a good fit. I don’t know if that’s a wise/safe bet to make, but man would it be great. I still think a deadline acquisition makes sense.

Donato and Vemelka without giving up a 1st/O’Reilly/Akey/etc. would be the perfect deadline.

Bouchard better be here for the next 5 years. If Bowman trades him for Seth Jones that will set the franchise back years

Reja

I smell 2 goals for a rested Leon. A tired unhealthy looking Connor will be lucky to hold water

rev.hans

Re Bouchard – I will say it again, while he has always attracted commentary on inconsistency, fans & pundit complaints spiked after he suffered the “head-to-goal-post” late hit against the Leafs a couple of months ago. While he “seemed to be OK” his subsequent play says he is experiencing the after-effects of a Minor Traumatic Brain Injury. Lapses and errors in judgement, high level play mixed with glaring errors – this is what happens to intelligent humans who operate at high-levels after they’ve had a bonk to the noggin. Less minutes. A little protection will go a long way to getting the B we love back.

Mato

He’s had brain farts even before the knock to the noggin. At this point, he is who he is. Some o-zone touch but too soft and inattentive in the d-zone.

OriginalPouzar

This continues to be wild speculation, every time you post it.

The Oilers have trained and expert medical staff.

hunter1909

Lousy Flyers …say when’s the next game?

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SVR

Before the break, wasn’t Jeff Skinner playing his best hockey of the season on a line with Draisaitl?

Shamus23

Yes. He looked great ina few in a row

OriginalPouzar

He was terrible yesterday though (and I’ve been supporting Jeff Skinner all season) – multiple poor puck plays and lost battles. Of course, many were terrible but Skinner played the type of game that led to the dog house. Hopefully a one off.

SVR

I mean, why did they take him off that line?

LMHF#1

The coach immediately decided he doesn’t like his play (the same dumb mistake he made with Holloway at the start of last year), and doesn’t give him any space to make a difference.

He elaborated on this in an interview earlier in the year, basically grumbling about Skinner being a square peg in his view.

He basically has to light it up playing with Connor Brown if he wants a hope. That doesn’t work.

Skinner-Draisaitl-Savoie probably would, but I can almost guarantee we won’t see it.

Meanwhile Arvidsson is consistently brought back to top lines, and the next option is Connor Brown. Terrible.

Same coach thinks benching Kapanen, then playing him with McDavid, somehow makes sense.

I like Kapanen – but there’s no such thing as a guy who is either 1RW or HS.

DevilsLettuce

80-36-9, I’m sure you’d have a better coaching record.

I like the coach giving McDavid Podz/Kapanen. The duo has looked good together regardless of center. That and everyone burying McDavid’s wingers it’s nice to see the coach take a new look at something.

This coach wasn’t with the team at the start of last season, and when he came in the priority wasn’t getting the rookie sorted out, it was the team as a whole.

Knoblauch is a damn good coach.

LMHF#1

This team should be running away with the division and conference. They’re better than this skill wise. By a fair bit.

SVR

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EDM lineup v. WSH:

Podkolzin – McDavid – Kapanen
Perry – Draisaitl – Savoie
Arvidsson – RNH – Hyman
Skinner – Henrique – Brown

Ekholm – Bouchard
Nurse – Emberson
Kulak – Klingberg

Pickard

SVR

Interesting deployment. I like the 4 centre set up, but not sure about McDavids wingers. He needs more help I think.
Lines three and four need to get something done today

Hopefully the d pairs stay like this for most of the game. Everyone on their strong side

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leadfarmer

Mcdavid gets the Drai treatment.

Reja

He should be so lucky how would you like Reider-Kahun-Jurco-Yamamoto. Leon’s been carrying his line for years.

OriginalPouzar

Given Nuge has been terrible at 1LW this season and there is not other center for the fourth line, I agree with Nuge at center.

Not sure about the choice of the top 6 wingers but we are where we are.

Bling

It’s early, but Klingberg looks good and I believe Savoie is already a top 9 forward (at minimum).

That makes Bowman’s job a little easier at the deadline.

The biggest problem may be a winger for 97’s line.

SVR

I wonder why Coffey and Knoblauch continue to shuffle the second two d pairs so much? I know yesterday was a shit show of a game, but this is something to keep an eye on. If Klingberg is auditioning for second pair RD, why not stick him with Nurse and see what he can do. Kulak hasn’t been great lately so leave him on his strong side with Emberson the third pair. Let’s see what we got for a few games.

Having two lefties on the second pair and then the two righties together on the third isn’t settling these guys up for success imo

Bling

https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/edm-vs-phi/2025/02/22/2024020892/boxscore

They’re trying to manage Klingberg’s minutes. Makes sense. Will be interesting to see if his minutes ramp up over the next couple weeks.

€√¥£€^$

I’ve lost confidence in Bouchard and I am very concerned about Connor. I think the team needs a seismic shake-up.

I would trade Bouchard, RNH, the Skinners++ for Dobson, Pulock, Pageau & Sorokin. Would Lou do it?

I’d also trade Hyman for Rantanen, amongst other moves.

I am also not liking Arvidsson or Janmark’s games, I would move on from them and bring in Donato and Frederic.

Savoie fit in well, can’t wait to see what he can do on an engaged roster.

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