Oilers at Panthers, G59 2024-25

by Lowetide
  • At home to: TOR (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: STL, CHI (Expected 2-0-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • At home to: COL (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: PHI, WAS, TBY, FLA (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 0-3-0)
  • Overall expected results: 5-3-0, 10 points in 8 games
  • February result: 2-5-0
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 34-20-4, 72 points in 58 games

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Chelios is a Dinosaur

Man, Frank Seravalli has become too condescending to watch. I suppose they have to have him on ON but if I were Liam I would tell Tyler I’m going for a walk next time its his segment.

Pretendergast

He’s an ass with connections. He thinks he knows more about hockey than he does.

One of the most surprising things I heard him say was he doesn’t gamble. They shove gambling down your throat on everything DFO and force Tyler to make it a segment but he hasn’t bet in 7 years or something aside from the Super Bowl. He’s part of the problem.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Best characterization I’ve heard of Frank (and his cohort) is knowledge (and understanding) of the game a mile wide and an inch deep.

Shamus23

Yes he thinks he is King Shit. I don’t even think he is very good as an insider.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Best game in a while, perhaps it falls under games you ought to win but don’t at the tail end of a losing streak.

They still lost the game and we can count the reasons why, but I hated each goal against.

GA 1: A starter needs to have that.
GA 2: Whats this team got against a hard play off the glass when under pressure? Another butter-soft clearing attempt leads to a goal against.
GA 3: A starter needs to have that.
GA 4: I can’t even follow the puck on the replay so I guess there’s some reason Skinner was so out of position, but also if you can’t find the puck lay the guy on his ass.

Also the offside challenge GA was putrid, let’s not forget: thats 5 pucks in the net that shouldn’t have been. No wonder Leon was so pissed skating off the ice. It almost looked like he had something to say to Stu there, perhaps related to the fact that they actually did get into scoring position with 13 seconds and the goalie was sat there in his net instead of hustling to get an extra man? That also felt like a lack of focus from our netminder.

I remain in Camp Stu, largely because a) I think you’re gambling on anyone else you bring in anyway and b) I do think the playoff experience from last year has value… But he needs to lock back in. I would run Pickard as your starter over the next ten or so. Mercifully we enter March now and there’s a lot of hockey and a lot of winnable games.

Shamus23

It’s not just Stu, albeit he has to have that. Bouchard stunk again, Ekholm was terrible, the 3 rd line is gawd awful, (-3). I think it is time to shoot Arvidson into the sun.
Stetcher was the only guy hitting and he is small. Perry tries to give the team a boost was cool. Pods needs to do a bit of that . They definitely need Kane back or a Kane replica.
watched a few Blue Jackets games in the last few weeks. What about Olivier for the 4th line. Guy can skate and he hits hard. Tough as nails. Seems better than any of the 4th liners we employ. No clue if they move him as They are in the mix still.
I actually think they win against Carolina on Sat. I sure hope they do.
McDavid needs to get out of his funk as well.

godot10

 but it is disingenous to think a guy with 9 points 2 seasons in a row would become a projected 60 point player literally 6 months later.

Leon Draisaitl 37 games 2 goals 7 assists 9 points

Six months later:

Leon Draisaitl 72 games 19 goals 31 assists 52 points.

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Markus Naslund 14 games 2 goals 2 assists 4 points

Six months later

Markus Naslund 66 games 19 goals 33 assist 52 points

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Jake Neighbours 43 games 6 goals 4 assists 10 points

Six months later

Jake Neighbours 77 games 27 goals 11 assists 38 points

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Nazim Kadri 21 games 5 goals 2 assists 7 points

Six months later

Nazin Kadri 48 games 18 goals 26 assists 44 points

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Jordan Kyrou 28 games 4 goals 5 assists 9 points

Six months later

Jordan Kyrou 55 games 14 goals 21 points 35 points
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godot10

Dylan Strome 20 games 3 goals 3 assist 6 points

Six months later

Dylan Strome 58 games 17 goals 34 assists 51 points

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Tage Thompson 38 games 6 goals 8 assists 14 points

Six months later

Tage Thompson 78 games 38 goals 30 assists 68 points

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Sierra

Which of these players are you saying is Holloway-like?

You can’t seriously be comparing Holloway to a young Leon.

godot10

The person was claiming that it was ridiculous to think a young developing 10 point player could be a 60 point player the following season.

I was providing evidence that it is not ridiculous. Development is not necessarily linear. Holloway had a history of rapid progress in college from low productivitiy to high productivity.

hunter1909

Why can’t we have nice things? Oilers headed straight for the 2nd row of the Hockey Guy’s Power Rankings.

hunter1909

All of this current drama places pressure on Kane to return.

Shamus23

They miss that type of player for sure

hunter1909

I tried to post during the end part of the third period but Lowetide must have had the place locked down.

Tonight’s loss is the best of the post 4 nations catastrophe so far. it easily might have gone just that way no matter what between two perfect rivals.

How about if they gave McDavid a 14 day holiday? Tell the new Draisaitl Oilers to hold the fort for the next two weeks and so long as they end up with a .500 or better record it’s all good. Then McDavid returns fresh lol

813.52Ran

Same here. Had some sort of error code for last part of game and rest of evening.

OilerParty

I’d would rest Ekholm also. For all the bluster regarding Bouchard and his lapses, he’s been better than Ek by all statistical measures.

drewbot

Kulak with a goal 8 blocks and 5 SOG.

Shamus23

Best game in awhile for him

Reja

Have you seen enough Bowman please end the experiment.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Wait, what?

Weren’t you extolling the virtues of Bowman earlier in this very thread (and yesterday, etc)?

jtblack

IMO, Bowman is taking the patient approach this and will rock and roll next year. And I would be ok with that

Gaz Gazzersson

the reunited Brown/Janmark/Henrique line a collective -8.

Ouch.

OriginalPouzar

This line was never very good and their playoff lore is not base in reality.

They played a total of 52 minutes together in the playoffs, so like 4-5 games.

They were 2-1 goal but caved by all underlying metrics.

Rafa Nadal

Is this team winning a single playoff round this year? Just horrific stuff. McDavid’s season to forget continues.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Guess they might as well shut down for the year in favour of an extended off season.

Harpers Hair

Looks like they may have already done so.

OriginalPouzar

The team was the 2nd best team in the league, 0.01% behind Carolina, for three months, from November through the end of January.

They are slumping big time right now and it sucks and there is some concern but its a slump.

The powerhourse Jets have 2 loosing streaks this season of 4 games…

Tarkus

Summarizing!

Stonehouse assisted on the Petes’ only goal in a loss.

Soup was not Akey’s to be had.

Wakely served the second of what has become a four-game suspension. He is eligible to return next Friday (March 7).

OriginalPouzar

4th goal, the winning goal – was pretty ugly.

OriginalPouzar

Ekholm is more of a liability that Bouchard right now – and its not close.

Paulie

Father Time may have come calling

Gaz Gazzersson

He hasn’t been right since the illness pre-4 Nations

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Zach “Pinball” Hyman authors a crucial goal from his office.

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dsr29

Goalie needs to be upgraded. It’s painful to watch. Mcdavid point blank, Bob makes the stop. Schmidt point blank, Skinner whiffs it.

LMHF#1

There are bad contract years and then there’s what Evan Bouchard is doing. Wow.

OriginalPouzar

Need to get him away from Ekholm maybe….

OriginalPouzar

Egregious non-clear by Ekholm – geez.

hunter1909

Okay.

This Oilers team is always going to be going either well or otherwise by the leadership and extreme level of play by it’s leaders.

With this in mind I will now bravely watch the rest of this game, from the 3rd period to conclusion.

General McDavid

Taylor Hall looking good tonight. Scores a goal wearing the classic Hartford Whalers uni.

OriginalPouzar

and he is now up to 2 points in 9 games for the Canes….

Litke 94

Leon Draisaitl is the best hockey player in the world.

LMHF#1

MVP right there.

Gaz Gazzersson

Who’s your daddy?

Drai, that’s who.

DevilsLettuce

Draisaitl is awesome

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Neon Leon with his best bulldozer impression.

OriginalPouzar

Holy hell what a goal by Drai.

OriginalPouzar

Oh, Kulak – you flub that one?

BornInAGretzkyJersey

I thought Stetcher did some solid work against a bigger opponent prior to that deflection goal.

OriginalPouzar

Great defensive play by Janmark – finally.

OriginalPouzar

Did coach replace Skinner with Podz on the Drai line because of that penalty?

OriginalPouzar

He’s back on this shift.

Funny Bissonness

I wish somebody had been tracking how often players fall down since the dawn of the NHL. It’s hard not to think Arvidsson is having a record-setting season.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Clearly you didn’t watch Taylor Fall play for EDM.

Funny Bissonness

If you told me there’d be 2 goals (that counted) scored in the first period, both by Brett Kulak, I would take that every time. Unfortunately, he scored one of them on the wrong goalie.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Kulak my balls, FLA.

Lutefisk

Uvis Balinksis
Now that’s a fine Latvian name.

Lutefisk

My wife’s family will not forgive me. Make that Balinskis. Oh I see a German has scored.

prefonmich

It’s 3am here in Saudi Arabia and I woke up early again to watch but am deciding if it’s worth my time and energy.. don’t think I can put myself through it today. Going to get up early for a workout instead. Hope the Oilers prove my choice wrong.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Bye, Felicia.

hunter1909

Tuned in the game and in 10 seconds Florida bullied in a goal.

Good night. Am not a masochist.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Considering how often you make posts like this, I’m surprised you still bother.

This is not a DoD team, have a little faith.

hunter1909

The best possible news is Oilers can spin this into a last gasp swoon to beat away the blues and prepare for playoff return to the other side of the Finals.

Winning this year need not be thought of as impossible. Certainly not until playoffs when/if some upstart team looks like it is going to KO another season.

dcsj

Hey something went our way!

OriginalPouzar

That’s coming back but what was Emberson doing?

Also, my goodness Ekholm is struggling now – an accident but a stick to the face as he was chasing and a bad play.

OriginalPouzar

That kill breaks a streak of seven straight games where the Oilers got scored on on the opposition’s first PP of the night.

OriginalPouzar

Janmark isn’t even responsible any more (these days) – what a terrible defensive zone pass – 30 seconds later the Oilers get the puck out.

OriginalPouzar

Of note regarding Kapanen playing center tonight.

Matt Savoie is actually a center (prior to turnning pro).

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Yeah.

Baffling deployment.

hunter1909

Every great NHL team was able to hit and fight and play the body to match anything the opposition could toss at them.

You can argue the Red Wings 20 seasons of dominance was an outlier, but cursed for the most part with weak goalies.

hunter1909

The flashy but unable to hit Oilers are going to have a big fat target on their collective backs from now to the rest of the season, and possibly beyond.

Soon Oilers fans will be repeating the mantra: “The refs need to step up and do their jobs”

hunter1909

Signing Skinner was a freaking disaster.

“We can’t afford to keep Holloway and Broberg” once they blew the 3 million on this plug.

“Oh but it’s just for 1 year”, they say. Sure…another 1 year lost to Oilers having less than a team able to win anything.

The thought that last season might be the high point for this team for several years is enough to make me puke.

Pretendergast

Holloway had a career high of 9 points. Skinner had a career high of over 40 goals.

You didn’t know what Dyl would be and he is in a key role on a loser team in St Louis.

This logic makes me ill.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

“Logic.”

More like revisionist history that only serves to propagate a fear-based narrative.

Benign Bone

In my view, the reason Skinner is bemoaned over Arvidsson as “the cause of not signing Holloway” is because he was the more avoidable error.

On the one hand, Arvidsson has a more multi-dimensional game, performed admirably in the playoffs against EDM, is a right shot, and replicated some of what Drai had found success with in the past (a better Yamo), which was the point of his signing. There was risk, but Drai needed a running mate and this was a reasonable bet at one. He had also primarily been playing at RW in LA so he didn’t actively block Holloway.

On the other hand, Skinner plays a one-dimensional game with none of the qualities that Drai typically succeeded with. He doesn’t have blazing speed to push defenders back, he doesn’t play responsible hockey, he doesn’t thrive in transition, etc. As such, his signing had to be understood as either for a different purpose (McDavid line or a 3rd scoring line) or as a mistaken understanding of how Drai finds success.

One was signed as a clear attempt to address a roster problem while the other was signed essentially as a luxury item.

godot10

I would have kept all of Broberg, Holloway, McLeod, and Desharnais, and traded Ceci for Emberson. All between 23 and 27.

The team is still a contender when they have their act together, but the roster is such a mess, that I really don’t have any good ideas how to fix it.

godot10

Podkolzin was a good deal, I would have done that even if I had signed Holloway.

Benign Bone

For me, Holloway is the loss that stings the most. His age, style of play, cost, etc was literally the perfect fit in so many ways. I was fine with moving McLeod under the pretense that we re-signed Holloway. Likewise, I was okay with taking a bit of a risk (turns out more of a risk than initially thought) on Arvidsson under the pretense that we were re-signing Holloway. I was even fine with not matching the offer sheet to Broberg under the pretense that we would at least match Holloway.

I’m happy the team moved on from Desharnais.

Sierra

I would have kept Broberg. I wasn’t so sure on Holloway.

Ceci for Emberson makes sense if they had kept Broberg.

Getting rid of Vinny is fine.

I can see the logic in moving on from McLeod.

Harpers Hair

The forgotten man in all of this is Warren Foegele.

He’s on pace for 24 goals and 45 points at a cap hit of $3.5 million while leading all Kings players at +22.

A big, fast third line winger at a relative bargain.

DevilsLettuce

Savoie should be playing with McDavid tonight, won’t be surprised if Stan trades Hyman in the summer.

6-2 Panthers.

ArmchairGM

Some ideas for the deadline.

Defense
– Ivan Provorov (50% retained, $2.3625M cap hit) for 2026 1st.
Check down: Jamie Oleksiak ($4.6M cap hit x2) for Stetcher + 2025 2nd (STL).

Goalie
– Karel Vejmelka (50% retained, $1.3625M cap hit) for 2025 3rd (STL).
Check down: James Reimer ($1M cap hit) for 2025 6th.

Center
– Jean Gabriel Pageau (20% retained, $4M cap hit) for Adam Henrique ($3M cap hit) & 2026 2nd.
Check down: Michael McCarron ($900k cap hit) for 2025 6th.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Provorov, Reimer, and JGP.

Yes. Yes, and yes.

JJS

Wahlstrom back on waivers

CrazyCoach

1990 was such a sweet revelation, especially after the ending of the 89 season. The November trade that sent away Jimmy Carson and Kevin McClelland felt like the white flag and the ship was ready to go down. I always felt that Carson getting traded for 99 essentially ended his career. He was the Joe Zanussi of that trade and never really found his footing in Edmonton. I didn’t know much about the trio coming west except Petr Klima. Wow, did I find myself surprised in a good way. It seems just like yesterday, but it also seems like a lifetime ago.

Missed the game the other night as I was out in LT’s old stomping grounds of Burns Lake, but I watched the condensed game. Wow, that Hagel goal was bad, in every sense of the word and others have beat that dead horse to death without being able to revive the horse, so I’ll just let it lay.

What will it take to get this team on track? As I mentioned a few days back, each season is a series of cycles and this is typical of every team. Even teams like the 76-77 Habs had down cycles, and maybe that may have manifested itself in ways not seen by outsiders, but I can wager a guess it did (Maybe Guy Lapointe missing an opportunity for a prank or Lafleur running out of smokes?). This was also in the days of no internet either. The Oilers down cycle is manifesting itself in poor quality play by the team team as a whole. Outside of Draisaitl, there are not too many in that dressing room who are having a career season, and I would go so far as to say that several of them are having the worst year of their careers. That’s the bad news. The good news is that this is still a very talented team with a great deal of skill and have put themselves into a good place until now. There is a little wiggle room. If you’re a Beatles fan, this is the period of the recording of Let It Be before Billy Preston showed up.

This brings me to the trade deadline. The only thing I don’t want to see is Savoie as a part of any trade. He seems like the real deal to me and the Oilers need to keep him. I’m in agreement with LT and many others about a hard skating puck retrieval winger. I always like one mixer on each line for my teams. They don’t even really have to put up the points. Just create space for the others and get the puck.

Long ways to go in this season and I hope to see a team that soars into the dance rather than one that limps across the line.

Go Oilers Go!