Deadlines and Commitments

by Lowetide
  • On the road to: CAR (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: ANA, MTL, DAL (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: BUF, NJD, NYI, NYR (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: UTA, WPG, SEA, DAL (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: SEA (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: CGY (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected results: 7-5-2, 16 points in 14 games
  • March result: 2-1-0
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 36-22-4, 76 points in 62 games

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daniel

Glass half full: Bowman added two good NHL players in Walman and Frederic. Walman brings puck moving, possibly to a second pairing that needs it. Frederic brings power forward physicality and middle six scoring to a middle six lacking both. Jones made a positive first impression let’s hope he keeps it up.

Glass half empty: Bowman’s acquisitions are not that different than Broberg and Holloway, who became expensive after the offer sheets. One can argue about the differences between the players lost and acquired, but the basic roles are the same. If the organization would have signed and retained Holloway and Broberg before the sheets, the puzzle would have been different and Bowman may have used assets to bring in other pieces that are missing or not working: top six winger for Draisaitl, right-shot centre, shut-down defender/penalty kill specialist, goaltending depth. As it stands, the PK and goaltending depth are of concern. The PK was crucial to the 2024 run, during which the organization was three NHL goalies deep, while this season it’s only two goalies deep.

Sierra

If the organization would have signed and retained Holloway and Broberg before the sheets, the puzzle would have been different and Bowman may have used assets to bring in other pieces that are missing or not working: top six winger for Draisaitl, right-shot centre, shut-down defender/penalty kill specialist

Say the Oilers had retained Broberg and traded Ceci for Emberson, who are you suggesting needs replacement with your comment of currently needing a “shut-down defender/penalty kill specialist”: Ekholm, Bouchard, Nurse, Broberg, Kulak or Emberson?

Wouldn’t retaining Holloway address your suggest need of a “top six winger for Draisaitl?

daniel

The wants/needs aren’t so much my analysis as the list from fans and analysts.

Rob Brown being quite insistent that a top 6 for Draisaitl is missing, Mac T, Stauffer and Strudwick vocal about a large shut down D to stop the cycle and play on the PK. Jamie McLennan and Staples insistent that goalie depth is a concern. Maybe you disagree. Thats fine.

Emberson has been very good on the PK. Ekholm and Nurse have not been very good this season. Maybe Broberg wohld have stepped up. He has the frame and reach to block lanes. Stetcher and Klingberg would be the first ones I’d be looking to generally replace with a shut down type.

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Death By Misadventure

Weird how Vegas did not add a big piece to their roster when Stone is not on LTIR.

Death By Misadventure

Good trade deadline by Stan Bowman, but not great. Expected more if Kane is out till playoffs and Oilers had that magical LTIR room I’ve been hearing about all year.

Frederic is ok as a pick up. Like the truculance, but lacks skill. Ideally a 3rd liner.

Jones is meh. 4th liner. Maybe pressbox?

Excited about Walman and the fact that he’ll be on the team next year. High hopes but we will see.

Klingberg is meh. Ideally 3rd pair. Maybe pressbox?

One thing that is unmistakable is that Vegas and LA ran in place while the Oilers got better. Whoot whoot!

Ultimately how far this team goes will be via internal improvement. So many underwhelming performances on this roster. Knoblauch seemed to have all the right answers last year, but not so much this year. Is the coaches life span in Edmonton 18 months?

After 62 games (big sample size alert!) only Drai, Perry, and Kulak are exceeding expectations.

So far this season:

McDavid – meh compared to what we know he can do

Hyman – ok but mostly meh compared to what he can do

Nuge – what the f is going on here?

JSkinner – seriously, what the f is going on here?

Arvidsson – seems the effort is there but not the results, mostly meh especially considering he plays with Drai

Henrique – meh compared to his own recent past

Janmark – has mostly disappeared this season after a nice start

Brown – has good stretches, but has disappeared for stretches too

Podz – pleasant surprise early but clearly best suited for down the line up

Kapanen – good for his role, see him making good plays all the time, but coach seems not to trust him

Bouchard – far cry from what we know he can be. Prone to absolute brain farts and complete check outs on the defensive side.

Ekholm – seems to have taken a step back this season

Nurse – actually having a great season compared to what most expected from him after the playoffs. Offense seems to have dried up.

Emberson – meeting expectations, fine

Stecher – meeting expectations, fine

SSkinner – absolute yo-yo all year. Can’t predict game to game what kind of game he will have, but mostly well below expectations.

Pickard – ok in role, but nothing special.

Have I missed any one?

That’s a lot of under performance and question marks this late in the season and the runway is running out.

The sky is not falling on this team and I’m still mostly optimistic for this roster, but that’s a lot of underperformance.

Drai better win the Hart after dragging this much underperformance to Top 10 in the league.

But yeah, Vegas and LA are about as good they are going to be. Oilers have a path to a lot of improvement if things click. Here’s hoping.

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100% on point

AsiaOil

Interesting day with a lot of teams loading up. But only one team gets out of the eastern conference and only one team gets out of the central division. The early rounds of the playoffs will be a bloodbath and there will be a lot of first and second round buyer regrets.
In contrast the western division was pretty quiet with the Oilers making a few moves to fill gaps on defense and bottom six grit. Vegas and LAK didn’t do much. Really important that the team bears down and overtakes Vegas for first place to give us the easiest path to the conference finals possible. WPG coming out of the central and TOR out of the East would be dreamy.

Scungilli Slushy

I’d rather play the Kings than the Avs

winchester

The play of Cam Dineen has been overshadowed by the trade deadline today.

I thought he played excellent. So did Stetcher. There is some depth right there.

Neumann

Here here. He played very well last night. Good instincts in the Ozone. Looked to attack. Small sample size alert. Delivered with zero expectations.

Tarkus

Summarizing!

O’Reilly’s heater continued with a goal (#23, just like his jersey) and two assists in a 3-2 win. He had a team-high 5 SOG and was named first star.

Clattenburg had an assist in his return.

Day stopped 31 of 35 in a loss.

Fischer, Berry, Akey, Wakely and Nicholl were denied soup and shall have to subsist on Frosted Flakes in grapefruit juice instead.

DevilsLettuce

Kane/McDavid/Hyman
Podkolzin/Draisaitl/Arvidsson
Frederic/Nuge/Perry
Janmark/Henrique/Brown
Skinner/Kapanen/Jones

Ekholm/Bouchard
Nurse/Spacek..err..Walman
Kulak/Emberson
Klingberg/Stetcher

Skinner
Pickard

Can’t see Knoblauch diverting from some of his established norms, imo the addition of all the banging wingers will have him running Nuge up the middle. Frederic is better then Kostin and Nuge usually does well with those player types.

I don’t think it’s realistic to think the coach won’t be playing the PK duo of Janmark/Brown come April. They provided several momentum turning moments last run and I imagine they’ll be given lots of opportunities to do the same.

Deep forwards, defense is looking great with Kulak in a role to succeed not being asked to do too much.

Will the goaltending hold? is Skinner already making calls to the Kobe whisperer for another spring run?

Oilers are going to be a hard out for anyone.

Scungilli Slushy

No other team has what the Oilers have, the Duo

Bowman gave them help

Now it’s up to the players to get their ducks in a row

Death By Misadventure

I think you’re very optimistic with Kane on the first line. After missing this whole season with multiple issues and surgeries, I’ll be mostly happy if he’s a 4th line banger that scores the occasional goal and makes life tough for the other team for 10-12min per night.

Sierra

For sure, expecting Kane to be a 1st line player after missing the entire season is so unrealistic.

Funny Bissonness

Surprised at all the negativity surrounding the Oilers deadline.

The way I see it is we landed a top 4 D in Walman, Trent Frederic (who has more skill than some folks are giving him credit for), Max Jones, and added a prospect in Petr Hausr in exchange for a 1st, 2nd, 4th, Shane LaChance, and Max Wanner

For our total haul, we paid approximately the same as the Leafs paid for just Brandon Carlo (they paid a 1st, Fraser Minten who was a recent high 2nd round pick and has already played NHL games, and a 4th).

Jfresh has Walman at 83% WAR playing top pair minutes on SJS. For comparison, Jfresh has Carlo at 31% WAR playing 3rd pair minutes on BOS.

No goalies moved except Spencer Knight for Seth Jones (we didn’t have a Seth Jones to part with to land Knight – if you think he was the answer), and Mrazek (a terrible target for multiple reasons)

Today was considered a seller’s market and prices match that belief. I may be in the minority, but I think the Oilers made smart bets on good targets, and didn’t overpay. Overall I’m quite pleased with this deadline.

Todd Macallan

Completely agree. Also quite pleased, and important to remember the Oilers appeared to improve more than any other team in their division, which isn’t nothing.

Funny Bissonness

A couple other random notes:

Colorado is down to a 4th and a 7th pick in the 2025 draft. Over 86 million committed to 18 players next season

Dallas has over 90 million committed to just 16 players next season.

Florida, Dallas, Colorado, and the Oilers ALL have traded their first round picks in the next two drafts. However, it’s quite likely Florida will also lose their 2027 or 2028 1st when the Brad Marchand condition is met.

Colorado and Dallas will likely meet in the 1st round.

daniel

Seems like we could have had Mrazek or Vanacek, as they moved. Czechs at full cap.

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Shaun VanAllen's mom

Jeff Skinner = Petr Klima c. 1990.

JOFA

Love it! Redemption!

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Playoff Roster – Yes?

Kane – McDavid – Hyman
Frederic – Draisaitl – Podkholzin
RNH – Henrique – Arvidsson
Jones – Philp – Brown

Walman – Ekholm
Nurse – Bouchard
Kulak – Emberson

Gaz Gazzersson

I’d like to see

RNH – McDavid – Hyman
Kane – Draisaitl – Savoie
Jones – Frederic – Podkholzin
Philp – Henrique – Arvidsson

Walman – Ekholm
Nurse – Bouchard
Kulak – Emberson

OriginalPouzar

Perry?

I don’t think the coaches will even contemplate Ek on his off-side.

winchester

Small comment – I’d rather have Ryan back than Philp

And Brown is this years McLeod, if he is asked to get physical, he breaks out in a rash.

OriginalPouzar

Derek Ryan was 2-10 goals at 5 on 5 in the playoffs last season….

OriginalPouzar

Kane at 1LW seems aggressive – we can hope but its probably not likely.

Coach loves Janmark.

Perry will be in the lineup.

I think Kulak will be on the right side more than Kulak (I presume you don’t have Ekholm on his off-side – that’s a non-starter I’m sure).

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I realize that I forgot Perry:

RNH – Henrique – Perry
Jones – Philp – Arvidsson

Also, Walman on the right.

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Death By Misadventure

So is Evander Kane officially coming back before the playoffs?

What about Frederic?

If both are off till the playoffs, am I correct in assuming that the Oilers left a lot of money under the cap?

Ranford.85

Headlines today and yesterday were Frederic out a couple weeks to a month, Kane out until playoffs.

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I read Frederic by end of March, Kane will be ready for playoffs.

OriginalPouzar

Kane is officially not coming back until the playoffs – maybe game 1, maybe later, that is not known.

Frederick is likely back before the end of the month.

They have $1MM of cap space – probably used on Savoie/Philp/Ryan at some point.

rickithebear

The biggest mistake I made articulating my theories on this site was that my groups of situation xAVg data must be broken into the 4 Data sets (4th variable) by ZS Vol. that dictated results potential. OZ win% vol, DZ win% vol, Bench chg with puck (Sheltered) & Bench chg without puck.
Thevuse of a common data set is a massive fail.
wallman is bottom 30 def D.
Fredric is a great OFF grab, leagues 25th most shetered D bouchard (low Bchg w/o, & High OZ FO% is #105 evga/60 (Contains Open SH var w 87% +ve ident) most other D to #150. No top 60 Def D.
Cgy on the other hand Has 5 Top 60 def D. If they make the playoffs & make a better cup run than the oilers I will be pissed!

Genjutsu

Always good to hear from you Mr Bear.

LMHF#1

Good to see you’re still kicking Ricki!

Reja

Comeback Player of the Decade Award.

Lewis Grant

I like what the Oilers did and didn’t do at the deadline. (Deadline deals are often bad deals.)

But wasn’t the whole verbal about not signing Broberg and Holloway oriented around having lots of money to spend at the deadline? I’ve never quite understood LTIR, so maybe somebody can explain it to me, but it looks to me like we didn’t spend near as much as we could have.

Scungilli Slushy

Bowman said it was about fit

Price, what teams were looking for and what he had to sell

It was a good deadline IMO, if not ideal

daniel

Seems they have about $1.075M unspent.

Crudely speaking Walman replaces Broberg, Frederic replaces Holloway. Not matching saved just under $3M in 2024-2025 cap. That cap went to Podkolzin, Kapanen, Jones and Klingberg depending on how you want to count the beans.

The moves make us better than before deadline for certain. And if we matched it seems we would have missed on other pieces.

But there is a bit more ceiling to Holloway than Frederic although Frederic has more truculence. I would think at present Walman has more offensive upside and Broberg more defensive acumen. Certainly, Walman has more experience.

Death By Misadventure

Brutal if they left $1m under the cap. If Kane isn’t coming back till the playoffs they had room to make the team better and didn’t.

SKOilerFan

They didn’t have alot of assets left to peddle.

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OriginalPouzar

Cap space would be needed to bring up Philp, Savoie or Ryan (without sending someone down through waivers)

Death By Misadventure

None of those players should be on the roster.

daniel

The real tragedy is Jeff Skinner as a $3M healthy scratch,

SKOilerFan

Very good summary. I think the Fredrich pickup is under stated for this team. Could have used 2 of him.

Clarkenstein

Friday is Trash day where I live. Bowman must have slept in because the trash in this lineup didn’t get taken to the curb. Not the same team that went to game 7. Can they win a round with this one let alone a Cup?

Death By Misadventure

Agreed. I have a hard time believing that Jeff Skinner is still on this roster. Seemed like Oilers dumping him and he agreeing to waive his NMC would have been a no brain for both sides.

OriginalPouzar

Those are two presumptions and the third presumption is a team willing to take him without being paid for it and, if not, should the Oilers have paid assets to get rid of Skinner and then more assets to acquire something?

They don’t have a ton of valued assets to trade.

I think they did very well at this deadline – prices were insane and they got good pieces, targeted adds.

Death By Misadventure

Were prices insane? Seems they were mostly in line with prior years.

TravisTDK

In line with prior years of assets the Oilers do not have.

SKOilerFan

Well Knobber has a job to do to get some value from the hodge podge of underperformers. Sadly there’s guys st the top of the roster in this category.

Death By Misadventure

100%. Oilers are a cup champion on paper. But from player to player there’s a lot of guys who have been well below what we would have expected at the beginning of the year.

DexandRuby

I watch Boston games often and I’ve never been a big fan of Carlo. For his size, he’s always left me wanting more. I’d even say he’s soft at times. I’m happy the Oil didn’t make that trade.

Lewis Grant

Kinda hurts to use “didn’t make that trade” and “Carlo” in the same post. The 2015 trade that WAS made meant that draft pick #33 wouldn’t be ours to select Carlo.

I’d have been happy if the “Oil didn’t make that trade”, and we could have had Carlo.

Scungilli Slushy

Carlo is tall and heavy, Walmart is tallish and a tank, good fancies. And can skate. Like it

Shamus23

Dallas got a lot stronger and we’re coming o. Strong already with great goaltending
Colorado got way stronger
Winnipeg was already strong with the best goalie in the West and added 2 Vet battlers but couldn’t get a 2nd line Cman
Edmonton added some toughness and a D man. With Drai and McD they are game changers, but goalies are a huge ?

Oil will get by LA Who did nothing substantial. Vegas has the advantage in goal for round 2, but if they get by them which I don’t think they do, no way they get by whoever comes out of that other side.

Unless Skinner actually plays A+++++++. Hockey.

Lewis Grant

I didn’t think we would get by Dallas last year. And we did.

Amid all the negativity, let me point out two things:

1.The Oilers have the guy who, until he got hurt against Vancouver, had the highest career era-adjusted playoff points per game of any player in NHL history.
2.The Oilers also have some guy named Connor McDavid, who broke the NHL playoff record for assists.

No other team has even one of those guys, even after the trade deadline.

We have two.

Scungilli Slushy

I think the Oilers are probably weak at C. particularly when the load up the top line. The caveat for me is if they return to form. Especially Skinner, of course every team needs their goalies playing well

Other than the Oilers the Avs probably did the most to fix weaknesses in the West. The Stars added Rantanen, but their D group is iffy and their best D may not come back 100%

Assuming health and back to form, the teams that concern me most are the Jets and Avs. The Knights somehwhat as the know how to shut the Oilers down. The Oilers can have trouble with containing McK and Makar, got bigger and better at C, and the Jets are rolling with a great goalie

The Avs took out the Jets last season, but it was through rush plays that Helly had trouble with, and the Oilers aren’t generating nearly as many as normal

Test games:
Stars 2
Jets 2
Knights 1

SKOilerFan

It’s ok to be an underdog. Oilers should be ranked 4th in the west. Goalers and team D have them below Win, Veg, Dal

LMHF#1

Reads to me like Bowman doesn’t think they can win this year.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Huh?

LMHF#1

They barely added anything with name players on the board, roster holes+upgrades needed, and contenders making moves.

That doesn’t scream “I’m going to make sure we have a great shot”.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I mean they added a top 4 dman…

OriginalPouzar

They made targeted adds, including a 2/3D who will be here beyond this season. Given the quantity of tradeable assets they had, this was more than I expected. I am just fine without “a big splash”

Scungilli Slushy

If you heard his presser, he was in on a lot of the players that moved, but he said there weren’t deals there for various reasons

He doesn’t take things for granted and mentioned his experience. The main thing that was just because last season went a certain way and players had the seasons they did, it’s not a certainty it stays the same way, he said this at season start as well and was right

He didn’t blow his brains out for one run and added good players that were lacking – this is key, there are lots of runs ahead. He mentioned players picking their games up including goalies – it’s up to the team to play to their potential or no additions would make that much of a difference

He also mentioned he feels adding too many players is another problem and sometimes doesn’t work with only 20 games left

I think he’s a realist and in a laid back way called the team to be better, also that with a bigger roster to stay in the lineup they had to show up for every game or they might be out. I’m pretty happy with all of this

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Agreed. I also think Walman was a great add in that he is under contract for another year.

LMHF#1

I’m a go for it every chance you get, then reload advocate. So this doesn’t work for me. There isn’t a “long term” or a guarantee that there are any runs ahead, much less a lot of them. Cap league with a volatile contract market means constantly upgrading and changing and reloading or you fall behind.

You can always upgrade – GMs in his head space don’t seem to think that way. They think “spot filled”. I’m not on board with that.

Worst outcome is to get stuck in the Ottawa or SJ spaces from years past, or where Carolina is at now. Giant, pointless, and a waste.

Scungilli Slushy

I hear you but one cup isn’t enough for this team

Pretendergast

Hoping Wilbur and Rantanen are in town while the fellas and I go to watch tomorrow. Was hoping for a Marchand debut but still should be a great show!

McSorley33

How are the smartest guys in the room doing in Carolina?

ristojalo

I miss being reminded daily how amazing Yzerman and Tulsky are.

Pretendergast

Fine? They turned a player who was worth 2 2nds in the summer to 2 1sts and a young plug in player after swinging for a top 5 winger who didn’t sign a fair deal. They still netted value for future moves and didn’t put all their chips on a guy who didn’t want to be there.

Take the gamble, don’t chase losses. That’s pretty smart considering the circumstances. Not all of us are McSorley with the crystal ball and the high horse.

Diablo

Where are you getting this narrative that the Canes would have moved Necas for two 2nd round picks in the summer from?

The Canes don’t seem to want to pick a lane; are they Cup or bust or still building the foundation? Maybe they saw what Florida did and decided that they can’t compete with them.

Pretendergast

The narrative has been said several times by Frank Seravalli.

The Canes have repeatedly said they want sustained excellence, which they’ve achieved. They’ve never been cup or bust. Everything Florida did on deadline day (NOT Jones) was after the Rantanen move. They were in on Rantanen until the end.

Scungilli Slushy

It doesn’t seem to me that they made their team better. This is their forward depth chart now:
Jarvis Aho Svech
Martinook Stall Stankoven
Hall Kotkaniemi Blake
Robinson Jankowski Roslovic
Jost
Carrier
Fast LTIR

They do have picks still, but the two 1sts are 2026 2028, the 3rds 2026 2027. Next summer 15 players signed and 37M in cap. Maybe changing things up, didn’t like the roster? They are contending now, those picks are years away from helping and will be low 1st round. Maybe they’ll trade them for more help

They are weaker than they were and have to rebuild depth. Couldn’t sign Guentzel and did a weird deal for Rantanen in that it was secretive, so they didn’t do what the Stars did and made sure they were signing him. That is some bad risky work there to me

They are going nowhere these playoffs with that forward group. They’re going to have to get into free agency, but then Tyler Durden or whomever their owner is doesn’t like to spend. What teams are looking for picks for high end players?

Lewis Grant

Disagree. Maybe they lose a little in the here and now going from Necas to Stankoven, but Necas didn’t fully buy into Brind’Amour’s system and wasn’t going to re-sign in summer of 2026, so they did well in their return.

Despite the bad luck of Rantanen not wanting to sign, they picked up two 1sts and two 3rds. At deadline day, if you really want to buy high, that’ll buy you Brad Marchand and Brock Nelson, which is pretty good depth.

Carolina has always been too smart to buy high at deadline day (Guentzel was the exception.) So they’ll probably get more than Marchand and Nelson for their four picks, and they’ve already got Stankoven. I’d say that’s a great return for 1.5 years of a defense-optional Necas.

Pretendergast

Many teams are looking for picks for players.Contracts they can’t handle. Carolina is not a traditional team, they don’t do business the way you think they should.

They’re always flexible, and always competitive. They turned over half of their dcore this offseason and are still highly competitive. They believe if you go to the dance enough times, you’ll break through. The team isn’t on a strict budget, they’re about creating value repeatedly. Things won’t always work out their way but they aren’t afraid to make moves. Tulsky has also said he’s not afraid to work a problem. Rantanen not wanting to sign means you don’t make the trade? Okay, I personally think there’s no shot Necas would’ve returned that haul. Necas didn’t fit Rod’s system so they did something about it.

Tulsky has done several interviews, I believe he’s gone through Marek’s new pod after the Rantanen deal. Really insightful stuff I encourage you to listen, very different from the GM’s giving up money and picks and sweeteners all the time cause they’re bad at spending. (Cough Holland). Canes don’t have all the answers, but they rarely lose value, and to me that’s your job as a GM

Scungilli Slushy

NHL isn’t a competition of who does nice deals made by smart guys

It’s about who wins the Cup. Tall foreheads Tulsky and Dubas leave weakness in their wake

TravisTDK

Tulsky has been a GM less than 1 season. Think you might be blowing your load a little early.

Pretendergast

Just because you want him to fail doesn’t mean he is.

https://x.com/WaltRuff/status/1898134220591268161

This is his philosophy. He made an aggressive move which seems to be something you wanted Bowman to do so no clue why you hate the guy so much. Dubas isn’t in Erik’s stratosphere.

OriginalPouzar

Bowman does expect Kane back at some point.

Won’t be back in the regular season. Hopefully in the playoffs. Maybe game 1 but they don’t know. If they play long enough, he’ll certainly be back.

Kane, Frederick and Jones – truculence – expects them all there and to make a difference.

cowboy bill

I see plenty of depth everywhere but between the pipes.

Scungilli Slushy

They only have 3 regular centres, and one is 35 and slow. Bowman said Kap was doing well at C and Frederic could play C, but neither have regularly and in playoffs a different story. Nuge can do it if he has to, but he’s back to wing where he’s better (if he can get his deal together)

cowboy bill

I’m seeing Nuge at 3c & Henrique at 4c. I wonder if Philp is a better option than Kapanen for a RH 4c? Or if Ryan is even a consideration? I wish Bowman could have added another center too. It didn’t happen. Freddy can fill in anywhere but is a best on the wing.

OriginalPouzar

Bowman did acknowledge that he looked around trying to find someone that could play with Leon but the right fit never materialized.

Death By Misadventure

I would shed happy tears if they managed to get Alex Tuch.

OriginalPouzar

Bowman said more was made of the trade protection than reality – it wasn’t a big factor.

I don’t think he was looking to move out a ton of cap commitment.

Remember, not a ton of assets to use any more cap space (let alone if they would need to pay to move money out).

OriginalPouzar

Bowman acknowledges the goalies have not been as good recently but looked at the big picture and thought, from Nov through end of Jan it was very good. Acknowledges it has slumped recently and its an important position. “Team game” has escaped them over the last 5-6 weeks and that puts pressure on the goalies. Need to not put pressure on the tenders to “save games”

Benign Bone

Jake Walman

67th per. top speed (75th & 88th years prior)
80th per. 32-35 kph (68th & 89th)

95 per. hardest shot (98th & 99th)
83 per. avg shot (91st & 90th)

JFresh’s mircostat breakdown shows him as also being effective at generating offense and reasonably effective at D-zone exits. He struggles mightily at preventing zone entries and generally isn’t a strong defender (how much is coloured by being on SJ . Prone to turnovers and not physical. So Bouchard-lite.

His microstat card from last year in DET holds some positive news for those worried about his entry defense.

Beyond anything I see in the numbers, the deadline additions suggest that management wanted an infusion of spice and skating to the team. All of Frederic, Jones, and Walman are above average skaters in at least one dimension and all of them bring (the dreaded) intangible qualities. Frederic and Jones add the physicality & workman-like pace to a rather vanilla group of forwards while Walman brings a bit of personality to a room that, from an outsider’s view, can be pretty lacking in such. 

Collectively, these additions (alongside Kane) should help do what Lucic claimed he would do when he came: add some swagger.
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I’ll reserve any final judgement until I see Walman play a few games as an Oiler, but I’m not keen on the fit. 

On the plus side, adding another talented offensive D should help the team’s transition offense and also take some minutes off of Ekholm by taking over PP2 (which I think is a big factor). Further, you never know when or how skilled players will mesh so having more is better. I can think of more than a few ways to deploy 3 pairings capable of contributing to genuine O-zone pressure. He’s also got another year at a very good cap hit.

On the downside, it’s another Dman that’s prone to mistakes on a blueline that already has 3 (Bouch, Nurse, Klingberg) and doesn’t help minimise EDM’s primary weakness. Barring another trade, they seem to be choosing the “live by the sword, die by the sword” approach; maximise your strength in hopes that it overpowers your weakness.

That having been said, I hope they’re right and not me 🙂

McSorley33

Great breakdown

Durag

Any stats on Walman and Emberson playing together?

Benign Bone

Walman only joined the Sharks this year and Emberson was traded to us in the offseason so no 🙂

Kert

…So zero goals against when they are on the ice together. Pretty impressive.

Durag

Excuses! Haha

Ancient Oilers Fan

That’s interesting because on the Elite Prospects website he is listed as a defensive defenceman. His highest point production was 21 points in 63 games, both total and points per game.

Maybe he was tasked with being more offensive in SJ, out of his comfort zone.

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Benign Bone

If I were to guess, that labelling is likely the result of his role in Detroit playing alongside Seider. The lion’s share of his TOI was as his partner on the top pairing and, with little else on that blueline that could help, it ended up making both he and Seider look less skilled than they are. However, I look forward to seeing the truth of the matter!

Gaz Gazzersson

David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
#LetsGoOilers release this statement regarding Evander Kane: “After further consultation with team medical staff, it has been determined that forward Evander Kane will not be ready to return to action for the remainder of the 2024-25 regular season. As a result, he will remain on LTIR.”

Diablo

And be back for game 1 of the playoffs (hopefully after a conditioning stint in the AHL).

Jethro Tull

There’ll be new leadership team in Boston this off season.

Jethro Tull

Utah Hockey Club unveil Shea Weber as their new franchise D. Bowman dropped the ball on this one.

cowboy bill

Did Bowman do enough? I think not.

Jethro Tull

Kane may be back…

Sierra

And he may be impactful…or not.

cowboy bill

Kane will be back, so will Frederic and somehow, I have a good feeling about Max Jones. I like Walman. I just hope it’s enough.

dangilitis

Well, the D is undoubtedly stronger and better than several Cup-winning teams.

Evander Kane’s health remains the ultimate wild card. I believe he can be a productive top 9 winger. If he can still wheel well enough to play with McDavid or Drai and throw his weight around, it is an absolute game changer. He could be as good an add as anyone at trade deadline not named Rantanen or Marchand.

Even without Kane, this team has the forward pieces to succeed in the playoffs without a big add. They need to find the answers internally and the coaching staff need to get these lines back to doing what they were as recently as January. And the shooting percentages need to regress towards historic averages.

cowboy bill

They have 6 legit defensemen who I sure hope can stay healthy.

OriginalPouzar

I have no issues with what he’s done – in particular with the assets that Oilers had to trade.

I’ve been staunch in my opinion that the improvement from this team comes from within given massive underperformance by many individuals, and as a group.

Won’t say McDavid’s underperformance has been massive but, on the year, he’s well below established norms: not just points but impact on the game and, well, defensive commitment.

This team needs McDavid, Bouchard, Ekholm, Hyman and Nuge to be closer to historical norms.

That, with a solid bottom six truculent scorer and a legit top 4 (low end 2D) plus Kane.

Gaz Gazzersson

A healthy Frederic down the middle is intriguing. 3C and 4C deployment will be interesting. If Jones could deliver the sort of play he showed last night, that would help. Having more wingers than spots could be a good thing – shuttle guys in and out to keep things fresh

Death By Misadventure

We are mostly aligned on this. Although disagree that McDavid’s under performance has not been massive.

He’s 19 points behind MacKinnon and has only 50% of Drai’s goal total.

For a guy that once scored 64 goals and over 153 points in a season, and had one of the all time great playoff scoring runs just 10 months ago, this season is a far cry from what we are used to seeing. I think even McDavid would admit that.

Sierra

Can’t really know what he did do, but certainly a top 6 winger or RC would have been nice adds. Tough to do everything with limited assets and limited cap room. Relying on 4-5 players to find their game is risky business.

General McDavid

Yet again there’s going to be some seriously stacked teams in the dance again.

If the Oil want to sip champagne, 3 things are mission critical for the playoffs.

1) Stay healthy obvs
2) Seeding. They need to push up the standings to get a more favourable matchup early.
3) Most importantly, they need some short series wins. The Oil have less depth vs some of the elite teams. They need a quick 4 or 5 game series along the way to arrive at the Final more rested and less banged up.

The Oil need to hit the ground running early in the playoffs and get those first couple of series over quickly. If they’re playing marathons early, they’ll be too spent to win a formidable finals matchup.

All that said, I’m happy with their deadline. I’ve never understood teams that turn over too much of their roster at the deadline. Chemistry is a thing. I like teams that improve around the edges instead of trying to parachute in big names.

yycyegyvr

This team is famous for slow starts.

dangilitis

I actually want to see Edmonton finish 2nd. No doubt that LAK are going to be tough, maybe the best iteration we will face, but the winner of the Pacific will be playing either Colorado or a Minnesota team that has only been held back from division contenders by their incredible injury struggles, and they should be healthy. Either of these teams are poised to upset Vegas in round 1

Rafa Nadal

Is anyone else seeing rumours that Ekholm has a core muscle injury? I really hope that’s not true.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

That would be pretty bad.

Core injuries are the new shoulder injuries for Oilers. So very possible.

cowboy bill

I saw that too.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I am very curious what the return is for Carlo. He would have been a nice add.

The Bruins finally blow it up. As bad as the Reinhart trade was for the Oilers, the 2015 draft was even worse for Boston. Imagine if they had drafted Kyle Connor and Chabot over Senyshyn and Zboril. Cup window would still be open.

Mato

Minton, apparently

Durag

I like both the trades, but it’s an underwhelming deadline on the whole.

Death By Misadventure

That’s a succinct way of putting it and agreed. Should have done more if Kane is out till the playoffs and that LTIR money was available for spending.

Still, I’ll give Stan Bowman a B-

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Marchand to Florida is so gross.

Florida has to be the betting favourites to win this year. Oilers missing on Zito is almost as egregious as the Reinhart trade.

Paulie

I can’t remember – did the Oil hire Holland over Zito?

Scungilli Slushy

Sure did

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Unless there are a ton of trades in queue, pretty boring deadline. I think the Oilers are likely the most improved team in the west. Maybe Colorado?

Sierra

You don’t think the Stars adding Rantanen is as big as an improvement as the Oilers adding Walman? I do.

Death By Misadventure

Which Rantanan is Dallas adding? The one in Colorado or the one in Carolina?

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Aight

Walman w Ceci – 45% xGF – 537 min
Walman w/o Ceci – 55% xGF – 302 min
Ceci w/o Walman – 32% xGF – 436 min
All numbers even strength

Kert

Hopefully Ceci Cecis for Dallas in the playoffs.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Ceci is our man on the inside for this years playoffs.

I chose to believe he loves the Oilers so much he agreed to be traded to help them win in this years playoffs.

godot10

I think those are numbers we have see see seen before.

Tarkus

The States may try to annex Canada, but Finland has already annexed Dallas:

Rantanen
Heiskanen
Hintz
Granlund
Lindell

Big D should now be known as what Loretta Lynn–or, perhaps in an alternate universe, Lorettä Lynanen–would call Finn City.

Scungilli Slushy

These last few managers haven’t figured out the Oilers need a Finn or two to go with the Swedes. It’s tradition, and superstition

Scungilli Slushy

Well I guess I forgot Kap, oops

godot10

“Do or do not. There is no try.” -).

Boomgoo

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

Scungilli Slushy

C’mon Stan find a C on the cheap

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Trade deadline day is the only day every year I regret deleting twitter.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Coyle for Mittelstadt is strange.

I am shocked Vegas has not made a trade yet.

Scungilli Slushy

Bruins need skill the Avs size I suppose

Jethro Tull

Mark Stone is fit and on the roster, I believe.

Funny Bissonness

My issue with Dallas has not changed. They don’t have enough D.

Harley Lyubushkin
Lindell Ceci
Bischell Dumba

Obviously Heiskanen is injured and should be available for the playoffs. But he got turnstiled by McDavid when healthy, nevermind coming off a serious leg injury.

Lyubushkin does not belong on a top pair. Ceci doesn’t belong in a top 4 anymore. Dumba doesn’t belong in the NHL at this point.

If injury happens in the playoffs, they’ll be calling up Dumba, Petrovic, Lundqvist, Kyrou, or Capobianco. Gross options. I wouldn’t like that at all if I were a stars fan.

They have 6 good NHL D. But generally, you need a lot of D to win in the playoffs. And they just don’t have enough. I don’t trust that D corps and the many question marks surrounding it.

dangilitis

Stankoven is a significant player of value in return. Obviously Rantanen is an upgrade but his fit in Dallas remains to be seen

Scungilli Slushy

He’s plucky, but he’s 165lbs and .5 PPG. An NHLer but mid tier as long as he can stay healthy to me

dangilitis

Rantanen was 0.5 ppg on Carolina 😉

Stankoven has only played 83 games in the NHL, so you think the production may be improved.

who

So what do you think of the Oilers defense?

Brantford Boy

Deep… Bigly

Funny Bissonness

Haha that’s a fair question. I think a lot of that answer depends on what version of Ekholm we get come playoff time. If we get the tower of power, we have one the best top pairs in the league (can’t forget Bouch’s record setting postseason last year), followed by nurse and either Kulak or Walman. Which I really like. Then you have an seriously good 3rd pair with the remaining of Kulak or Walman with Emberson.

If Ekholm is injured come playoff time, we have trouble.

Extra D as Stetcher, Josh Brown, Dermott, and I guess Dineen? I think I like Stetcher. But he’s small for the playoffs. I don’t know. I think this is where I start missing Vinny and Broberg.

Overall I think our D is big, but not giant, mobile* but that comes with an asterisk of whether Ekholm can move. And I wonder if we have enough good D too. I do like our extras more than Dallas, but the extras still don’t fill me with the warm fuzzies.

Brantford Boy

And Klingberg… great depth by management

Funny Bissonness

Oh yeah, thank you! I was forgetting about Klingberg. Getting deeper by the minute.

Scungilli Slushy

Tulsky turned Necas Drury a 2nd 3rd and 4th into Stankoven Hall Juntorp and two low position 1sts

Not convinced that is good work or smart. Maybe ballsy

Scungilli Slushy

Should have got Johnston in that

Victoria Oil

If I was Carolina, I’d be happy with Rantanen for Wyatt Johnston 1 for 1. Johnston might be as good as Rantanen going forward and he ain’t going to cost $12 million. YMMV.

Scungilli Slushy

And a 21 YO tall RS C. Probably is off the table

Pretendergast

They were offered 2 2nd for Necas a few months ago. Thats now 2 1sts, 2 3rds, and Logan Stankoven. I dont think theyre done either

dangilitis

They could have also just kept Necas. There was no need to trade him.

Pretendergast

Necas wanted to move and they weren’t going to pay the 9+ for him after next year. Rantanen gamble was a solid gamble, didn’t work out.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I am curious what Rantanen’s extension looks like.

The Hurricanes are very very risk averse when allocating cap space. Pretty impressive return for Rat. Lots of trade capital if they want to grab someone.

dcsj

According to TSN it’s around 12 million. Isn’t that less than the number Colorado was complaining about?

Funny Bissonness

8 x 12. Worth noting Dallas has a better tax situation than Colorado or Carolina. But if you’re an Avs or Canes fan, this one has to sting for sure.

Pretendergast

Difference comes out to around 3.5M total at 8×12. Carolina rumoured at 13.25M. No clue what Rantanen and agent were doing but if 3.5 was the diff over 100M you gotta think.

Boil-in-the-Oil

Someone suggested it’s due to Texas’ low taxes… over time could be considerable saving to Rant.

Pretendergast

Yes, what I posted was the tax difference over the life of the deal between Carolina and Dallas. I’m estimating but it looks like Carolina more than made up the difference with 13.25M.

All rumours but I think Rantanen just didn’t like the fit.

Funny Bissonness

Oof. That would really hurt for the Canes fans. Gotta be sitting there thinking “what the heck is wrong with us?”

barry.moore23

“What to leave in, what to leave out ?”

My dad’s all time fave song. He spent his life running against the wind. Mostly of his own making, I’m sure. Peace, old guy. We miss you.

Tarkus

Walman will continue to wear #96 for the Oilers.

It will be the first time an Oiler has worn that number.

Bruce McCurdy

Pretty disrespectful to Connor McDavid, no?

90s fan

What do you mean?

Chelios is a Dinosaur

I think it’s a cheeky shot at those who clutched pearls when JP had the audacity to choose 98.

90s fan

Ha, ok, I respect a good jab now and then!

cowboy bill

I doubt Connor feels that way.

Side

Who will have the courage to be the first to wear #69 for the Oilers?

According to the Google AI Overview, Andy Dorris wore the number 69 for the Oilers from 1977 to 1981, Solomon Freelon from 1972 to 1974, Andy Gallik in 2015 and Christian DiLauro in 2021.

Crazy Pedestrian

LOL! Google AI is hilarious! 😂

Elgin R

Rantanen to the Stars! Man, the west is going to be a hard road this time around.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I hope Stan can trade Skinner to a contender.

He is a good player. Knobber clearly does not like/trust him.

I imagine Skinner would waive his clause to go to a another contender.

Scungilli Slushy

Would be sweet if he could pull a C coming back. I am quite concerned about upgrading there. Henri and Nuge are smaller and don’t have the quickness needed and there is no 4C. Henri’s numbers in the playoffs were bad and not sustainable for outscoring again more than likely

Tarkus

With Savoie back in the minors, Emberson and Podkolzin are the only Oilers born this century.

Tarkus

Kuzmenko returns to the Pacific as Philly phlips him to the Kings for a 3rd.

Skippy - the bush kangaroo

Guaranteed to increase goals against.

Scungilli Slushy

I probably have some form of PTSD over past bleeding of assets at the TDL and everywhere else, but Bowman added 2 quality players that seem like the right fit for need. Maybe 3 if Jones can take a roll and run with it

Another C and perhaps a depth goalie would cover a couple more bases

Scungilli Slushy

He also added size that can skate. As opposed to Bjugstad types. I like that he likes that in a player. No more undersized (unless really special like a Point Linseman Peca or Marchand for example), or not fast players, it’s not the true Oilers’ way

oil-in-the-blood

So far these adds have been solid and good bets. We will see where these land and hopefully he can sneak in one more surprise here.

godot10

Does filling the hole that you had just finished digging constitute productive work?

oil-in-the-blood

living in the moment is enlightening.
Bowman has done well with his moves.

Reja

I agree It’s time to move on who needs dogshit rubbed in our nose daily. This team has been underperforming yet I still feel it’s the best team since the eighties. No excuses but it’s been the shortest offseason in franchise history. All we need is a tick or two above average joe goaltending and we win our 6th cup.

Diablo

Walman is perfect. Yzerman lost his mind giving him away to Grier for free.

I’d like them to get a RHC to play on the 4th line.

I was really impressed with Jones last night – he’s a much better fit on the bottom lines that Jeff Skinner. There are now too many wingers on the roster – is Jeff Skinner really OK with sitting on the bench the rest of the way? He’s unlikely to get into a playoff game with all the depth that has been accumulated.

A perfect deadline would be a trade to send Jeff Skinner away for either 4th line RHC or some goalie insurance.

Scungilli Slushy

It’s becoming clear that Brisebois was the brains in Tampa, not Steve

rich tm

That’s part of hit. Also have to wonder if Lalonde was over his ski’s as the head coach given what TMac has done since he got there.

cowboy bill

The Walman trade was magical and came out of nowhere. Kane, Skinner & Klingberg could still be on the trade block That’s nearly $10M in cap space potentially available. May the magic continue.

90s fan

Kane does not represent 5M in space. His LTIR goes with him. Its nothing space.

10M in space truly does represent magic.

90s fan

I think its assumed that since Bowman has now dipped into those reserves that Kane is staying on LTIR or is being traded for picks. I am guessing from the chatter here that he is staying on LTIR.

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90s fan

Looks like i am wrong. Sportsnet has stated that with the current moves, Kane could still be activated, by sending guys down and hitting a roster size of 20. Interesting.

cowboy bill

Not going to happen.