Oilers at Devils, G65 2024-25

by Lowetide
  • On the road to: CAR (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: ANA, MTL, DAL (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: BUF, NJD, NYI, NYR (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: UTA, WPG, SEA, DAL (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: SEA (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: CGY (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected results: 7-5-2, 16 points in 14 games
  • March result: 3-2-0
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 37-23-4, 78 points in 64 games

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hunter1909

Oilers back into a 16-18 game depending on the team race with the LAK for 2nd place in the Pacific.

A home and away series of 2 games which is included between the 2 antagonists this mini season should be interesting.

Last edited 1 month ago by hunter1909
hunter1909

Back up to 9th.

Thanks to Leon, Connor and Evan who got all of the points.

SelathioHarms

Admittedly I did not not watch the game entirely, only highlights but I’m having a hard time seeing goaltending as the problem. Fundamentally Skinner looks sound to me and athletic enough to make some tough saves. I’m not convinced Vegas or LA have better tenders. I’m not convinced a trade deadline goalie change would have made a difference. This team might be one domina Hasek away from a cup, but they also could be one defensively committed team away from a cup.

drewbot

Well the team as whole plays one way, they play non- aggressive skill type game,they do not push or force any type of will if the game is not there for them. It’s been this way for a long long time. Case in point Bouchard is extremely passive but very talented, he is an example of many players. Bowman sees this and is trying to bring in physicality and some speed. I think it’s too late but I hope not.

PUKLUK

I was somewhat unsure of the KK hire. But, I thought you never know…could be another Cooper. My take is that he was mostly relying on Gully while he was finding his way, and that was a factor in the last half of last season’s success. I believe that he was more confident and put in more of his systems and ideals this season. Maybe too much AHL and not enough NHL. At any rate, this is not working. Remember when Lombardi I believe fired a coach with a good record and brought in Sutter? Won a cup as I recall. Now I have no idea who out there might be available or this would even work. But, something needs to happen fast. Skinner is weak, but with a better system in place in front of him he might be enough with better support. Just a thought

winston

Philp and Savoie in, Kapanen and Janmark out. Let’s start there. Never a dull season with these Oilers! 😳

godot10

Two young guys have no chance of helping a team of struggling old men. A/The team for old men pretty much has to save itself.

Sierra

So you’re saying Holloway and Broberg wouldn’t help, nor McLeod?

813.52Ran

I think godot10 was referring to Philp and Savoie, not Holloway and Broberg. Those two play for a different team now.

godot10

Broberg, Holloway, McLeod, and Desharnais were established NHL’ers, and all between 23-27. Savoie and Philp are not.

It would be a lot easier to integrate Savoie and Philp if there were a group of 23-27 year olds on the roster.

Arguably Bouchard is struggling, because he is a relatively young guy on a team of old men with wives and kids and babies and dogs. Who is he to share his successes and struggles with on the team?

Hyper-mercenization of a team withi older veterans is a poor way to construct a roster.

One should try to have a roster of a team that is a normal distribution age wise, centered on 27-28. Some skew is okay, particular as elite players stay productive longer.

But Jackson and Bowman hacked off the young branches of the tree instead of the old ones.

Last edited 1 month ago by godot10
Mr.Snrub

Looks like the Edmonton Coach Killers are back! I believe tonight was Coach K’s 134th regular season tilt just passing Coach Woodcroft’s 133 regular season game resume. Maybe Head Coach # 6 is this group of prima donna’s lucky number! Speaking of numbers it was 3617 days ago when Bill Daly flipped over that golden ticket, even the most jaded fan back then couldn’t even imagine this decade of disappointment.

JimmyV1965

Unless this team makes some kind of miracle revival, mngt needs to overhaul the roster in the offseason. There are only two untouchable players on this roster. Everyone should be tradeable, even if they have a NMC. Plenty of players with NMC get traded.

SKOilerFan

Almost everyone on the roster will have depressed trade value after this season unless there is a miracle post season for a bunch of guys

Funnybird

Is Skinner still working with the same sport psychologist that he had last year?

ing316

Skinner’s last 9 games:
864, 870, 840, 926, 875, 889,889, 839, 750;
Team Canada wouldn’t win more than 50% of their games with that goaltending. Honestly not sure if an NHL goalie (especially a starter), with 8 of his 9 starts in the 8’s. I don’t even think Campbell was that bad and he was sent to AHL and bought out.
Management knew Skinner was iffy and went with a career AHL goalie for a back up if Skinner failed (which he clearly has).

SKOilerFan

Twas a risk for sure. Just shows if you don’t have an elite G a team needs at least 3 goalies that could play in the bigs at least for a short stretch. Could Rodrigue be any worse?

Funnybird

Fire them all into the sun! Except for McDrai

SVR

Does Bowman even get to fire Knoblach since he is Jackson’s guy?

GaetanHaasWasAMediocreHockeyPlayer

If you are not in 5 alarm panic mode, I don’t know what to tell you.
3-9-0 in the last 12, none of those wins inspiring confidence.
That’s only one point better than their infamous 2-9-1 start last year, which took a historic 16 game winning streak to snap out of.
Almost assuredly LA will catch up in one of their two games in hand, which could be as soon as tonight. Only 7 up on Vancouver.
Has anything happened in the last 12 games that inspires anyone to think they’ll be able to play even .500 down the stretch?
Can’t get a save when they need it, can’t get a goal from anyone not 97 or 29, can’t get a single bounce.
Somebody help me! Please!

Boil-in-the-Oil

But one high point in that time period . . . the Dallas game we looked pretty damn good. But that’s where it ends, sadly.

GaetanHaasWasAMediocreHockeyPlayer

They did.. for 40 minutes then came close to blowing it.
There is no saviour now. Unless you fire the coach (AGAIN?!!!), no one can save them but themselves.

Shamus23

LA will pass the Oilers this week probably.

Harpers Hair

Already done.

cowboy bill

Even Jeff Skinner can’t score.

SVR

Why can’t our defensemen clear the front of the net so our goalie can see the shot?

Diablo

Why can’t a 6’4” goalie see the shot?

Reja

I wonder what our record would be if we faced Skinner as the opposing goaltender.

ing316

80-2

SVR

Im not saying Skinner doesn’t suck. Just would be nice if the dman boxed out on one of those goals like they teach defensemen to do in atoms or peewee.

Boil-in-the-Oil

I wish our team, offence or defence, would score more, at least meet expectations.

prefonmich

It’s such a lazy narrative to blame this on the goalie. Other than Leon and Mcdavid, no other player or line is contributing anything offensively. Kulak and Emberson with a terrible game in front of their goalie. Wingers not pressuring. This is a team with a lot of one dImensional players who have lost that dimension. Going to result in another coaching change and likely a ton of turnover in offseason.

dangilitis

This team is definitely underperforming this season in terms of scoring relative to expectations.

However, at 15 minutes left in the game, they had contributed enough offensively to be ahead. You can’t give up 2 shots from the blue line when your team is outshooting the opponent 13-4 in the 3rd period of a tie game. They weren’t high danger chances. They just weren’t. Give up 1, and we’re going to overtime.

And there should be turnover in the offseason if the forwards can’t score and the goalies can’t stop pucks

Shamus23

This team does not have the C men for starters, or any that are good at all Once this coach goes to his nuclear option. Which he did 2 minutes into the 2nd which is a joke. It is also killing McD who looks absolutely gassed . He is probably deflating the rest of the players when he does this. It’s Crazy.
Yes the D are useless at clearing guys, but Skinner on both goals went down on his knees in the middle of the net and was hoping it hit him. Gage on the Oil Stream Postgame just said “Skinner has to battle and be looking for the puck, just not hoping it hit him”
It’s pretty hard to watch this team since the 4 Nations.

JimmyV1965

Skinner isn’t the only problem. He’s a big part of it. Corey Perry is our best winger. That’s an even bigger problem.

LMHF#1

Fire him. Still time to save the season.

Moonlight

We need a #1 goaltender, no question. We will never win with Skinner. He makes some nice saves but allows such deflating goals at the worst possible times. I don’t know how anyone can defend his play. He’s just not a starting goalie in this league. Maybe 1B but that means we need a 1A.

Reja

Every shot looks like a hard save because half the time he’s out of position. He seems to have trouble tracking the puck so that’s why every shot is a adventure. If I’m Kris I’m rolling the dice with Pickard because Skinner is going to cost you your job.

rich tm

KK has lost me with the forward lines. It’s Woodcroft all over again.

Glad I can’t watch the next couple of games, may need to make it the rest of the season as this is getting really bad.

dangilitis

He doesn’t really have any other option. The only line scoring right now is McDavid with Draisaitl and Hyman. He’s hoping the other lines can saw it off while they outscore.

Wingers can’t score.
Even Jeff Skinner is now snake bit. Arvidsson and Podkolzin are not 2nd line wingers.
RNH is not playing like a 1st line winger
Henrique’s line not even making it as a 4th line now.

Sierra

How much of that is on the Coach and his systems?

Lucid Oil

Complain all you want about goaltending (which I have) but this team can’t score. Can’t find lose pucks in front of the net and bury them.

SKOilerFan

Lacking the physical ability to win net front battles. Fs eventually laying on the ice if they ever get there

DevilsLettuce

Soft goals deflate teams

ing316

Yep, goaltending is killing the team.

Diablo

What a garbage team. Aside from McDavid the rest of the team was awful – NJ defense kept everything to the outside and the Oilers refused to pay the price to skate through it.

Skinner let in three goals that every starter in the league would have stopped.

This season is slipping away.

iwin76

Is it just me or is Hyman’s inability to maintain possession a killer for McDrai?

dangilitis

That is the only line that is outscoring teams right now. He’s doing fine. Not nearly the same as last year (2 injuries may have set him back), but definitely not the problem

SKOilerFan

Has lost a step and falls over alot

winchester

He had a good game

Paulie

What happened to this team? Wheels just came off a few weeks ago. At this rate we’re gonna wind up as 7-8 seed in playoffs. What a disappointing season. And next year all the old players will be one year closer to the end of their careers.

dcsj

Gotta score to win

Funnybird

Thats just it, Skinner is not a Vezina goalie and the Oilers are not going to have a Vezina goalie in this era. Need a coach to figure out how to make the pieces work. As LT has said many times, goalies are voodoo, we can’t afford a top 5 goalie and need to figure out how to make it work with a 10 to 20 tender.

ing316

We don’t need a Vezna goalie, we just need average goaltending and we would easily be in 1st for the division.

Last edited 1 month ago by ing316
dcsj

Ok, I just looked up the last 10 games. They scored 3 goals in 5 of them. Two of those were wins. They scored 5 against Dallas for the win. That’s all the wins, BTW. They scored 2 three times all losses. They scored 1 in Tampa, a loss.

I think there biggest problem is scoring. Yes the goalies aren’t helping, but 2.7 goals for in the last 10 isn’t enough. I think they need to average above 3 to win consistently.

don’t ask me how to get that to happen. On paper,it ought to be happening.

Gaz Gazzersson

M*****f*****. 🤬

delooper

Far from their worst game in the past month, but nowhere near the level they should be at, this point in the season.

StixMalone

And yet another loss. Getting painful …

Litke 94

Same story every game.

Out shoot them. Mostly outplay them. Have more expected goals. Save percentage in the .800’s while opposition goaltending save percentage is 100 points higher.

The verbal tomorrow will be about foot speed, needing to bear down, etc. It will largely ignore that the Oilers heavily outshot their opposition, on the road, and the game winner was a weak, undetected slapper that plotted along the ice.

“But the Oilers shouldn’t give up so many chances!” Yeah, and how many tough chances did Allen save tonight? How many tough chances do the opposition goalies save every night? The expected goals against tonight were 2. 2.

ing316

Yes, defense makes mistakes, forwards make mistakes but the stats and eye test say we would have 8 more wins (16 more points) with just AVERAGE goaltending. Our goalies combined to be the worst combo in the league on a team way above average. Did a single person here think this combo was what we should go with for a Cup run? After their start did anyone else think taking a chance on Blackwood might be a good gamble? He was had for a second and the Sharks took a huge cap dump with it.

813.52Ran

Laughing stock of the league.

Funny Bissonness

Good news is we’ve found our new goalie! Bad news is it’s Troy Stetcher.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Well another coach resorts to the tried and true strategy of playing McDrai like a rented mule.

I actually think Knobber is in trouble which is insane.

813.52Ran

Coach killers.

Crazy Pedestrian

Team is trash right now, and chances are they won’t recover soon enough to turn it around this late in the season. Last year was the one shot they had, and the Hockey Gods said no soup for you!

Last edited 1 month ago by Crazy Pedestrian
teddyturnbuckle

Other than the McDavid line the Oilers have nothing

OriginalPouzar

I believe we now call it the Draisaitl line….

delooper

I’m watching the ESPN+ feed. When the puck went around the back of the net, the announcer said in a slightly exaggerated voice “Skinner stops it.”

ing316

Skinner, another mid 800 game. He needs to sit. Honestly might be worth bringing up Rodrigue and letting him run for a number of games and hope for the best. The team is deflated as you can clearly see they do not trust their tender and by his numbers you can see why. Team has to take chances and push from behind again…

OriginalPouzar

Rodrigue is now .898 in the AHL and he was great for the 1st half an in the to 10 in save percentage – that’s how poor he has been since January. He is not an option.

thehappyrabbi

So sick of being gaslit regarding Stuart Skinner by Jack and Louie. When Koskinen let those same goals in it was always his fault. But Stu can never be expected to stop a screen from the blueline.

813.52Ran

Not just Jack And Louie . . .

Crazy Pedestrian

Devils have injuries to core players, and Oilers still can’t seem to take advantage. They are morphing into pretenders before our eyes. Only bright spot is Draisaitl and his Rocket chase.

Funnybird

Exactly, grind to the outside is not working. Maybe take a different approach. Try to play with a little more skill

Funnybird

Devils won a cup with a late season coaching change, maybe something we should consider… Sorry knobber things aint rhyming and don’t think it is all goaltending at this point

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Unless the new coach plays goalie too, Oilers are f$&ked.

Funnybird

the Devils will lose their next game 6 to 3. No reason for this Oilers team to not be able to score goals except for the game plan

delooper

I suspect that’s the case too. Oilers are going to get another coach fired because their minds can’t focus on playing hockey.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Skinner stinks this season. What a disaster.

Crazy Pedestrian

At least Bowman should know for sure what his #3 item on his priority list should be this summer (behind McDavid and Bouchard Extensions)

dangilitis

13-4 in shots, 1-2 in goals this period. Welp. Must be so deflating when you are trying to work out of a funk when every point shot finds its way to the back of your net while every shot attempt you make bounces into friendly spaces

Diablo

Must be tough to win when your goalie can’t stop a beachball.

dangilitis

That was my polite way of saying this, in combination with the most inept scoring from a set of forwards I have ever seen.

Diablo

We’re going to lose to a team that’s lost their top RHD and number 1 centre.
This team is pitiful right now.

GarbanzoHumanBean

They’re testing my fanaticism.

prefonmich

If you’re not creating you can’t give up plays like the last two goals. Wingers not even close to pressuring up high.

Litke 94

The first one, sure. But the second shot was a weak slapper from the point that wasn’t an inch off the ice. Look around the traffic, pick up the shot and stop it.

KnightRain

Ugh. Why don’t we score like that very often? How can other teams get in tight and screen our goalies but we hardly ever seem to do the same?

delooper

Oilers have a big crush on the tic-tac-toe goal.

Litke 94

We had two chances with traffic in front right after. Difference is Allen made the stops.

fishman

For starters our D are not very physical when trying to clear front of the net. At the other end we don’t have enough forwards willing to get gritty in front of the net.

SKOilerFan

Bingo

teddyturnbuckle

Skinner you are allowed to look around the man in front

Diablo

Skinner sucks.

Reja

He’s so painful to watch.

Diablo

He’s not in position to make the stop. Went down too late. Can’t win in this league when your goalie is getting beat from the blueline all the time.

StixMalone

Why do we never attack the point?????

dangilitis

Another 2 back-breaking goals released from the blue line

norm2015

GET EMBERSON OFF MY TV

Funnybird

Skinner gonna skin

prefonmich

Jones in pursuit just quit on it. That was a mismatch of lines.