WCF GAME 2: Oilers at Dallas

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Scungilli Slushy

Agreed that the more you have the puck the more turnovers. That shouldn’t be confused with making bad plays. Drai forces things that aren’t advised when he’s not feeling it or the room he wants isn’t there

Reja

DaBoer is veteran coach he’s setting the narrative that Dallas was jobbed and the Refs owe them. Our home crowd needs to get behind the boys and not allow the Refs to dictate next game.

Scungilli Slushy

There are not a lot of options for a coach when he knows if the other team plays well enough there is no chance your team can win, without a miracle. Like the 80’s

Create enemies to rally around and hope for the best. Thankfully the work holland started and Bowman completed in terms of physicality and size means trying to run them won’t work, and in fact may backfire

Very happy for them and we fans. They dominated 5 of 6 periods it looks like but couldn’t catch the game so perhaps less periods, but the point remains I think

NickShaver

Sounds like some desperation possibly setting in.

Victoria Oil

I like Stu Skinner, but he has been the proverbial box of chocolates these playoffs. Next game will he be Dom Hasek or Andre ‘Red light’ Racicot?

Pretendergast

3 shutouts in 4 games is good right?

813.52Ran

Aaah, but those other games . . . .

Abbeef

I thought game 1 was overblown. Skinner got scored on too many times, but didn’t get cleanly beat off a wrister with no screen three times like the guy on the other end. His team let him down in the pk imo. When you’ve only let in 2 5v5 goals in the last 4 games I think you’re doing alright. Any hand wringing is a fault on the hand wringer not the goalie.

dangilitis

Mason Marchment

“A lot of that stuff, you just keep in the back of your mind, and if the opportunity presents itself, then you take your chance,” he said. “We’ve got a long series here.”

Shaq-Hyman will see about that

Side

Does Marchment mean like.. when you’re standing behind someone and the opportunity is there to cross check them in the back?

Moonlight

I wish that the reporter would have followed up by asking if they thought the slash was retaliation for trying to take out McDavid at the knees.

dangilitis

https://x.com/DarrenDreger/status/1926121601193402729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1926121601193402729%7Ctwgr%5Ee8fba6ec304bfee53e1dc3222d346f46d40dacd6%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2F

NHL rules are apparently foolish.

The malice and danger of the infraction should, in my opinion, determine a major, not whether someone is injured. How does one define injury? Literally everyone is injured on a slash to a body part. And if it exacerbates a pre-existing injury, that’s automatically a major?

Skippy - the bush kangaroo

Not to mention the Stars are instructed to dive, so how does one truly know an injury.

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Clarkenstein

On the broadcast last night it was mentioned that the Stars have led the league in “embellishment” penalties for the past four years. Not a stat to be proud of imo.

godot10

Because of Marchment.

90s fan

Agree fully, 100%

dangilitis

It also encourages the shenanigans that the Panthers did in the SCF where at least 2 of their players went to the dressing room, only to miraculously return after the major was called.

Lucid Oil

The refs used the right judgement tonight. Pretty ordinary slash in reaction to a cross check.

dangilitis

Agree. No pre-meditation, either

90s fan

I kind of think it was a pound of flesh for a minor, but too soft for a major. So minor it is.

doritogrande

Didn’t watch the game but just caught the SN highlight package.

Who was that absolute beauty blocking a garbage slapshot with 3 seconds left in a bid to preserve Stu’s shutout?

TheGreatBigMac

Frederic

doritogrande

Much obliged. Sign the man.

OriginalPouzar

Frederic

Funnybird

Connor Brown is an absolute beauty!

DevilsLettuce

DeBoer is cooked.

prefonmich

What a dumb comment by DeBoer. Has there ever been a 5 minute major for a slash? McDavid gets no special treatment. Fans would be furious if it were McDavid but it wouldn’t have been a 5 minute and intent? It was a cross check by Hintz first and a retaliation by Nurse. Tells me that Hintz may be more seriously injured than it looked.

dangilitis

Morrissey injured McDavid and didn’t even take a penalty. Shit happens. If Hintz is injured or rendered ineffective that destroys their first line and will turn into one of those dumb luck penalties

Gaz Gazzersson

99% of what happens on the ice is “intent”.
Pete’s a clown with that comment.

NickShaver

Incredibly whiny comment by DeBoer. Intent is when you swing your stick from over shoulder height onto the hands of an attacking player. As you say, Nurse took a cross check from Hintz, then slashed low… a play that happens many times in a game. If Nurse was intending to injure, that slash is likely at least waist high where the protection is much less.

dcsj

I’m fine with Dallas freaking out over this. Make the slash the center of your thoughts and get off your game for Sunday. Works for me

doritogrande

Direct quote from https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/dallas-stars-roope-hintz-leaves-early-after-slash-from-edmonton-oilers-darnell-nurse-1.2311226

As TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger points out, per Rule 61.3, a major penalty should have been called due to an injury occurring on the play.

Rule 61.3 seems to support why the Dallas Stars were unhappy with Nurse Major for slashing on Hintz being reduced to a minor. Injury is key in the interpretation

This seems like a made-for-Oilers rule. Like the equally egregious “not in full control” Colorado offside bullshit from a couple years ago.

We also probably owe Calgary a 3rd round pick too.

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Skippy - the bush kangaroo

Hints should count himself lucky he didnt get 2 for embellishment the way he carried on.
watch him suit up for game 3 like nothing happened.

dangilitis

To be fair, not sure why he wouldn’t come back if he was able. He might be this year’s Chris Tanev

Skippy - the bush kangaroo

See ‘like nothing happened’, tanev’s play was clearly impacted by an injury.

Gaz Gazzersson

DeBoer with the sad violins. Didn’t hear you complaining, Pete, when Blackwell went at 97’s legs

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OriginalPouzar

Apparently DeBoer thinks that who a penalty is committed on is of primary importance when calling it.

fishman

That was a BS comment by DeBoer. It was a slash deserving a 2 min penalty nothing more. To suggest the call would have been different if 97 was one getting slashed is ludicrous. Shame on DeBoer.

NickShaver

Ha. Yeah, that was a pretty ridiculous take he had on the play.

fishman

Wow DeBoer whining about Nurse not getting a 5 min major. Let the games begin.

anonymous

Well, Hintz did seem to be crying. When we were kids if we made someone cry, the sticks and nets were taken away…

dangilitis

For all the deserved shit Skinner gets, the media criticizing his shutout performance is an interesting choice. Yes he had a lot of movement but he also stopped some HDSC including a potentially momentum shifting SH breakaway, and a chance in tight that helped shift a potential 1-1 game to a 2-0 lead. Just under 3 goals saved above expected

I agree with the commenter who pointed out that he was out further to challenge shooters (something Pickard does a lot of), and when the defenders were blocking shots and clearing out the rebounds, the effort was a great success

NickShaver

I’m not trying to compare Skinner to Hasek overall, but how many games in general, was Hasek just doing whatever he could to stop a puck, including sliding all over the place or having some wobble in his game? Skinner did whatever he could to stop the puck and looked like he was fighting it a bit, but he made the saves or forced shooters to change the angle to their disadvantage. Skinner should get the credit for shutting the door even if it didn’t look pretty, just like Hasek.

Pretendergast

If they’re talking about how he looked as he stopped every single puck his way then you know they’re grasping at a narrative they already wrote a story for (cough Spec).

fishman

Better ice at home should be advantage Oilers.

dangilitis

Will be interesting to see how he line matches

ing316

He is fighting the puck a bit but maximum effort and the team was collapsing around the net to prevent rebounds; as well lots of blocks including a good one from 97. Skinner did seem calmer in his previous 2 shutouts. But whatever, he got a shutout and outplayed Ott.

dangilitis

So many battles won tonight. Maybe a bit less in the 3rd but still very mature period

Money Puck says the expected goals were 4.18-2.87 and I think that seems about right for Dallas, although we could have had another 2-3 by my estimation.

Also: Second straight game where the “deserve to win o meter” was >63%, with lots of love to Hyman, Nuge and Kane for their contributions

https://moneypuck.com/g.htm?id=2024030322

leadfarmer

So are we done running Bouchard out of town?

Zelepukin

No that will continue to peak the second he has a bad giveaway, which by Edmonton trollfan logic is far worse than being second only to Bobby Orr in points per playoff game for a defenseman, all time.

dangilitis

I may be mistaken, but I haven’t seen any hate on this site since early in LA series

Pretendergast

It was always for a contract he hadn’t signed yet so no. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Funnybird

Someone with a high level hockey IQ needs to take a real deep dive into the 7 games that Skinner has started this playoffs. Is it Skinner, is it the team, or is it the Gords?

Admiral Ackbar

Obv all 3. How much of each? Well, that’s the question. The breakaway he faced today, the fwd felt a bit of pressure on the forehand side and was pressured onto his backhand side. It’s a lot easier for the G to make that stop if he has less than two thirds of the net to worry about. Against Seguin in game 1, it was a clean breakaway from the red line in. And that was a Leon-Kling gaff at the opposing blue line to allow it to happen.

Ranford.85

Baby Nuge with back to back games of one goal and one assist, sitting a pretty +3 after two.

OriginalPouzar

I consider that as impressive a defensive performance than games 4 or 5 versus Vegas. Dallas pressed hard in the 3rd period and they defended in-zone alot but they got in all lanes, fronted so many pucks – it was wonderful.

Admiral Ackbar

I honestly wonder how much better the Stars can play. The Oil truly sucked all the flow out of their game and the Dallas fans didn’t get antsy. I had the impression this performance wasn’t abnormal to them. Or maybe they’re just hockey-illiterate.

NickShaver

I had the same thought about Dallas. I think they played better than the first game over the whole game, but it seems like they are playing at their ceiling. Meanwhile, the Oilers still have another level they can get to. I hope I’m not wrong in feeling this.

prefonmich

Stu is truly a gem of a human. Along the lines of Principe. Always first to credit teammates when he gets the win and shutout. They deserved the credit in this one!

Sierra

Big win. Solid, mature game. Can’t wait for Game 3!

Reja

We got our split I didn’t mind the slash on Hintz after numb nuts tried to take out McDavid . I know that play happens all the time he must of connected in the sweet spot of the ankle.,

Yukon Jerk

Dear John Klingberg:
How does 3 years x $1.1M grab ya?
I know he wouldn’t sign that but holy hell can that man move a puck

Ranford.85

$0.1M more than they gave JBrown!

leadfarmer

I thought it was an absolutely horrible signing. Boy was I wrong. I wish we could keep him in the offseason

OriginalPouzar

Not a chance he signs that I wouldn’t think.

DevilsLettuce

Stu Hasek is one hell of a trip.

Elgin R

Below .840 or a shutout – goalie fits the team.

Reja

That is one shaky shutout but as they say it’s results that matter. Skinner got the split now let’s take care of business in front of the best fans in the N.H.L.

prefonmich

Wonder about Hintz. Did Nurse get him in the Achilles? Really didn’t look like much but he didn’t come back.

Ranford.85

I think they mentioned something about an older injury on the broadcast?

Moonlight

It looked like the front of the foot

Side

Reading Stars fans comments, Hintz has a history of foot problems and seems like Nurse hit him in the top of the foot?

leadfarmer

Can you believe someone out there thought Rantanen was not worth the money.

Elgin R

Most notable (in a good way) player on Dallas.

fishman

Oilers outhit Stars 49-28!

leadfarmer

Huge game by the guys.
But we need to figure out what to do on a 3-2. We’ve had at least 4 tonight and most ended up in a turnover and a rush the other way.

Moonlight

Stop forcing passes.

Reja

No kidding so many opportunities need to start converting. Dallas was pressing hard on home ice they’ll play more rope-a-dope next game in Edmonton. We need to be patient as the turnovers will come with our D getting it quickly up the ice.

Moonlight

Wow +3 on the PP

Tarkus

#NeverInDoubt

W

Skinner for Conn Smythe.

Gaz Gazzersson

#PlayLaBambaBaby!!

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Moonlight

How do you add a gif?

Gaz Gazzersson

If you can find a link that ends in “.gif” you can just paste the link into your post

Moonlight

Thanks man.

Reja

Apparently not only are they flying in Daly but Bettmsn as well as a investigation is under way on why Dallas took more penalties then Edmonton.

dcsj

Haha refs missed the memo?

Moonlight

That was a nerve wracking shutout. Nice team win, they really limited the Grade As.

Admiral Ackbar

All shutouts against good teams are nail biters

JJS

3 wins. 3 shutouts. Ever been done before?

Admiral Ackbar

So happy to not hear the USA chant.

Complete effort. 5 very very good road periods.

home ice advantage!!

John Chambers

Tonight we got good acid trip Stuart Skinner

Gerta Rauss

“don’t take the brown acid”

yycyegyvr

“The warning that I received, you may take with however many grains of salt you wish, that the brown acid that is circulating around us, is specifically not too good. It’s suggested that you do stay away from that; of course, it’s your own trip, so, be my guest.”

Moonlight

That made me laugh out loud

Reja

2 hits of Purple Mic.

giddy

Oilers the better team in 5/6 periods thus far.

Moonlight

Yup. Be nice to be up 2 – 0 but I’ll take the split

Gerta Rauss

OK- there’s the split we needed

It’s either 5 GA or shutouts for the Skinman

prefonmich

That has to be a record. Stu with 3 shutouts for his 3 wins. Well played boys!!

David

Dallas would be a pretty great team if they had a goalie as good as Skinner.

fishman

Wow shut out for Stu! Wasn’t always pretty but he battled hard. Well done!!

Neumann

3rd shutout in 4 games. Pretty. Pretty. Good.

Tarkus

And it’s not even Game 4+ yet!

Unorthodox tending but effective.

Ranford.85

That isn’t pretty good, that’s incredibly good!! It’d be interesting to know when the last time that happened in the playoffs.

Yukon Jerk

What
A
Clinic

prefonmich

This shows how far Stecher has come.. appreciated by coaching staff, getting the responsibility on the pp at this stage

Gaz Gazzersson

Tony Stretcher was a BEAST

Tarkus

Dallas fans, please regale us with your U-S-A chant again.

prefonmich

That should be awarded a goal, Fer sure

dangilitis

Does it have to prevent the shot or do you have to be in alone?

Gaz Gazzersson

Suck it, Mikko.

Tarkus

The Mikko shall not inherit the earth.

fishman

Empty net put Kane out!

Moonlight

ENG, let’s go

Moonlight

Let Skinner shoot it and score