A Condo of Condors

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Scungilli Slushy

So if the managers are nosing around top prospect goalies, what does that mean?

I think it means Bowman is a big time beaucoup horse trader. He would almost certainly have to trade a significant prospect to do that. Big time change in approach

godot10

Tomorrow is the first anniversary of a week that will live in infamy in Oilers history.

90s fan

What happened a year ago?

Scungilli Slushy

Where two young men chose TOI and money over the chance to be a part of history

Maybe

The Blues have as much a chance of being anything as my kids Blues Clues undies have of rising from the dump as zombie gonch

kinger_OIL

— Evaluating AHL “success” is an interesting give and take exercise

— All things being equal if your graduating a lot of AHL players to your team it’s because your team likely sucks and is full of AHL tweeners anyways

— If your AHL team is really good it’s likely because you have been really bad NHL team so you have a lot of draft and development

— If your AHL team stinks all things being equal it’s likely because you do t have draft and develops because your trading them like madman during your “window”

— All that to say that I’m fairly comfortable that most teams don’t use tools or have methodologies to evaluate the quality of the coaching in the AHL or players for that matter except the obvious ones.

— Meaning coaches that win in the AHL are consistently getting promoted for things that are mostly out of their control: ie emerging rosters with talent that goes to the show

godot10

The AHL is a coaches league. The talent level of teams is roughly equal, apart from single season anomalies. Good coaches win, bad coaches lose, and mid coaches stay mediocre.

OriginalPouzar

The talent level being equal among AHL teams isn’t even remotely true.

There are teams with very few young prospects and led by veterans (Hershey Bears) and other on the other side of the spectrum with many young prospects, of varying tiers, leading.

Wow.

OriginalPouzar

AHL Team success is generally driven by the veterans, not the real prospects. The Hershey Bears were runner’s up and they had one real prospect contributing materially. The team was led by Ethan Bear.

kinger_OIL

— yeah that’s not what I’m getting at.

— defining “success” in the AHL is a moving target because of the stage each AHL teams roster is is mostly about the status and stage of the NHL team.

— So determining whether a AHL team is successful means different things

OriginalPouzar

I still hold a tiny bit of hope the Oilers sign Munzenburger in the next 3 days……

Bill

Had been hoping the same but looking at it now, I don’t see it. They have Leppanen, Regula(barring a waiver claim), Brown, Prokop, Carfanga, Lindgren(Fort Wayne?), Akey, Dineen, Stillman, Millman(Fort Wayne?) and a couple others I’m aware of but forget their names.
Injuries, recalls and possibly a waiver grab aside, that’s getting pretty clogged for playing time. Would Munzenberger take a AHL/ECHL contract or roll the dice back in the DEL and see if that garners attention?
Be cool if they could get him under contract no doubt, just can’t see it myself.

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Scungilli Slushy

Not to mention the NHL left side is full

OriginalPouzar

The NHL left side currently has one player signed for next season (yes, that will change but, for now).

OriginalPouzar

I believe they offered Munzenburger an AHL deal and he rejected.

I must be missing something as I would have offered him an ELC without thinking about it and would only have him behind Akey and Regula as far as young d-prospects in the org.

I’m clearly wrong on him, I think.

Scungilli Slushy

That’s a tell. But he’s not really behind those two righties

OriginalPouzar

A couple of AHL/ECHL tweeners in the group yesterday – maybe a Cam Wright comes out of the bunch.

The one player mentioned by LT that I am interested in is Matt Copponi.

A very good year at Merimack offensively but a step back this past season at BU – he was buried on a very stacked team, of course.

I liked his game in his small sample with the Condors (2 apples in 3 games as well) and I look for him to be the guy that earns an NHL contract.

Quinn Hutson led the BU team in scoring and had nearly double the points of Copponi but, at the same time, he’s 18 months older.

Which one is the “better prospect”?

Pretendergast

Hutson

OriginalPouzar

Perhaps – I’m not convinced but probably.

I also have Marjala in that conversation.

Bill

Just had a quick look at Puckpedia, it’s going to be a wild camp in Bakersfield. There are a lot of players for the number of spots. Fantastic depth down in the AHL/ECHL.
Makes me wonder if Bowman is expecting movement via trades/waivers at the end of camp.

Gaz Gazzersson

Nice to see GMSB adding new warm bodies to Bako. Sounds like all 4 new Condors add some speed/compete to the mix. And Prokop is a large human being!

€√¥£€^$

Another post awaiting approval….. the last one got deleted. I do not understand.

What is the issue?

OriginalPouzar

I know this has happened to you a few times recently and I understand your frustration as it also happens to me sporadically.

There are some words that will will get a post caught in the filter – naming the owner of the team, a player’s name from the world junior trial, etc.

At the same time, I get the random innocuous post caught and I can’t, for the life of me, figure out why – I had one yesterday on Kostin that got caught – no idea why. Tried to re-post, caught again.

€√¥£€^$

It’s the blog version of the Millennium Falcon 😀😀

I am certain a better wordsmith can turn the name of that legendary star boat into one with a Lowetidian flavour….

Kert

Time to migrate back to blogspot? 😛

Scungilli Slushy

A few days back I had comments ‘waiting for moderation’. Not lately

Reja

Newspeak.

daniel

Akismet will flag legitimate comments that are submitted quickly as spam or hold them moderation. It will also hold comments that are too perfect or those processed by LLMs for moderation. So maybe post slower and be less accurate. Seems to react poorly to quickly copying and pasting.

€√¥£€^$

It would be generous to deem any of my posts crafted anywhere close to perfection, and they are not normally hasty in terms of the time it takes me to compose my conscious stream using a single thumb….but it was a reply to a post of mine own.

So this seems to be the most plausible explanation.

daniel

I would also guess that it might not like many comments from the same IP over a period of minutes. My experience has also been that if I get flagged it takes a bit before the egregious flagging stops. Once Akismet has an IP in its sights it will tend to re-flag the next posts.

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€√¥£€^$

The signing of Luke Prokop is impressive to me. This kid should be on an NHL contract somewhere, because of size, Right Shot, draft pedigree and skating. But he is not.

He started to show flashes of very good in Milwaukee towards the latter part of the season, but he was buried down the depth chart by veteran blue and winning, rather than development.

This signing, along with Copponi and the Pitlicks are simply excellent moves. I am really impressed with how things are shaking out in Condorstown.

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Todd Macallan

Agree on being impressed by these recent additions. I’m particularly interested in Lindgren due to his age and wheels.

I was pretty high on him in his draft year and will be curious to see how he fares in a pool suddenly filled with average-ish sized LH dmen who are fleet of foot.

€√¥£€^$

Not sure about his chances, but he was definitely a player on my radar that Draft. He will have the Bako leftorium to hurdle, but he is an intriguing player.

Reja

Big D like Prokup may take years on the development train before they pop. I’m really excited on Bakersfield it’s going to take a few years but at least they look like they have a actual plan and are laying the foundation.

€√¥£€^$

Exactly!

Amen

Scungilli Slushy

I was pondering what Bowman sees as the plan for the Condors, if he thinks they need to be a competitive franchise or doesn’t value that. It does seem they are putting a lot more effort into procurement, and that they are looking for players that fit their vision. Of course most won’t make it, but being organized and focused increases the odds of finding a player that fits the mould and can contribute

Reja

Bowman likes elevating players through the system where as his predecessor had no time or interest in development. We have a big fat zero Holland drafted players on our team.

Last edited 20 days ago by Reja
grahaeme

Correct. They’re both in St Louis

€√¥£€^$

And hopefully elevate others by surrounding them with talent.

Matvey Petrov; he has size, decent skating and so many tools that he could still turn into a player. I thought he could follow in Lavoie’s footsteps, as he is a better skater and is much more defensively responsible.

I know injuries were a factor for him, but I also think Cam Wright and Jacob Perrault took away many of his opportunities. I get it, but I will maintain that to always absolutely be the wrong approach.

I will leave it here, but I am going to be looking for better things out of the Condor’s coaching staff.