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rev.hans

Tut tut. I didn’t see your usual caution about small sample size. The Howard PP points/shots per 60 is astronomical. Could have unwary readers salivating.

kinger_OIL

— speaking of the fall i had a wonderful moment with my 6 year old son this morning

— he had a 7am hockey practice (that’s another post, the madness of kids organized hockey now)

— anyway we leave at 6:40 in the morning and it’s pitch black : he’s never outside at that time so he was marvelling at how dark it was and was curious to observe that it seemed to be getting slowly lighter as we drove.

— practice ended at 8 am and we get out of the arena just after 8:10 and it’s completely sunny : he couldn’t understand what had happened so that it wasn’t dark and was very animated

— I once read that the greatest gift of organized hockey for parents isn’t the actual games and practices rather the drives back and forth where you get to spend times with your kids and talk about everything. For sure this was one of those moments.

rev.hans

Lovely!
My kids are adults now. Driving them anywhere (or being driven by them anywhere) continues to be some of the best time lost together. And now I’m getting similar magical moments with my granddaughters.

winchester

I would grab Logan Stanley in trade or waivers. Absolutely get him into the system. While we have other options, he brings a different element and a team should have a variety of tools available.

When the Jets put the Oilers out of the playoffs a few years back, Stanley dominated the ice. He owned his corner, nobody wanted any part of him in the corner nor the front of the net. Oilers would skate the other way.

Archibald chopped him down at the knees and I was fine with it. Not Archie’s fault he’s closer to the ice and Logan is big. Archie’s took the worst of it in regard to penalties and rebuke from fans.

Regardless, if Stanley can play, and he still needs to be able to play, his size brings another dimension to the defence.

OriginalPouzar

Ingram clears.

As I said, no surprise there at the $2MM cap hit.

A trade (with retainment) could make some sense now that he’s available for the AHL.

OriginalPouzar

Recently retried Tyson Barrie will be joining the Canucks regional broadcasts on SN (home games) – I’m not sure what capacity, probably intermission analyst.

I love listening to Barrie speak – always great on podcasts, etc. Really seems like and awesome guy.

Fibonacci

Likely as an analyst replacing Ray Ferraro when he is away tending to his other duties.

Ferraro recently signed on to do some LA Kings games and will still be doing ESPN games.

Busy guy.

OriginalPouzar

Yevseyev with close to 20 minutes in a 2-0 win. Oh, ya, should mention two assists in that 2-0 win – one at evens and one on the PP.

Now up to 5 points in 8 games which I believe is top 5 in d-man scoring in the KHL.

POP!

Darth Tu

While I wish Ingram well, I don’t think Edmonton would be the best landing spot for him. I also think trying to slot him ahead of Pickard, and dare I say it Skinner too (there are people who are convinced he’s a better option than Stu) is a dangerous game. He’s solid enough as a 1B or backup guy from what I’ve seen and going by the numbers, but I don’t think he’s a material upgrade on either of our guys. The grass isn’t always greener.

Now, back to my plans to somehow turn a bag of pucks into Sorokin….

Oddspell

I agree that I don’t think we’re the best spot for him. He’s also not my favourite of the potential waiver pick-ups. I don’t mind taking a stab at Ingram, but only if we’re willing to do some cold, calculating player value maximising. If Ingram is a wash for Skinner, then freeing Skinner for a trade (I believe he likely has some value), is probably not a bad asset management move.

Lewis Grant

New York has a significant Russian community, and Russians tend to congregate there (e.g. Panarin signing there). Sorokin and Shesterkin are good buddies. Varlamov is his nominal backup. (I’m seeing a pattern here.) Even if the Islanders go the rebuilding route, I doubt Sorokin wants to leave, unfortunately.

Linus Ullmark was available quite recently. He single-handedly separated Ottawa from the Detroit/Buffalo pack of teams that were not quite getting over the playoff hump.

I would take chances on Jeremy Swayman.

The problem is that our goaltending is like a 20th overall team. Not good enough to be content, not bad enough to go hard for anything that comes available.

Calvin Pickard has done everything you could have asked for out of a backup, and yet if we do anything, he’ll be out of a job.

OriginalPouzar

Per Tony B:

EDM lines & pairings – Morning Skate:

Mangiapane – Henrique – Savoie

Howard – Tomasek – Kapanen

Janmark – Philp – Hutson

Marjala – Samanski – Jarventie

Nurse – Stecher

Kulak – Regula

Dineen – Brown

Pickard

Jonsson

Darth Tu

That Mangiapane – Henrique – Savoie line is the 3rd line apparent eh? If Mangiapane still has all the speed it could work out pretty well. I like Savoie not being thrust too high up the lineup to start the year but I would like to see him get a go with Drai eventually.

I’m intrigued to see who emerges to make up the 4th line from the Howard-Tomasek-Kapanen and Janmark-Philip-Hutson sets. Philip looks to be doing everything he can to earn that 4C slot.

rev.hans

I too am looking forward to these lines. Fingers crossed that Philp keeps doing what he’s been doing this preseason.

rev.hans

Is this the expected lineup for tonight’s game?

OriginalPouzar

Yes.

rev.hans

Thank you

godot10

More likely Winnipeg would trade Stanley rather than waive him.

Reja

If Pickard continues to outplay Skinner this preseason do you not owe it to Cal and the team to start him in game one. We can’t afford to start the season 1-4 while Skinner is adapting to a new coach and 15 pound weight loss.

OriginalPouzar

Connor Ingram has a $1.95M cap hit.

He has some upside but he is also no locked in upgrade on either Oilers goalies, not playing for most of last season and having a poor performance prior to the Players Assistance Program. Team matters in his recent numbers, of course.

I have said that, if they put Hyman on LTIR they have room to carry 3G but I find that very unlikely.

That $1MM over Pickard does not provide value – plus the waiver risk on Cal

The play here is, if he clears, and he might at that cap hit, is to acquire at half retained and allow him AHL time and see where it goes.

Reja

Could the shoe drop October 1st after a certain so and so signs. This signing should free up a pretty good goaltender out East apparently where the rumours are swirling.

Reja

If the Oilers pick-up a Goalie off of waivers say Dipietro does he have to be on the Oilers roster a certain amount of time before he can go to Bakersfield?

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Reja

Thanks I guess with a cap hit of anything over a million it wouldn’t make sense to pick up any goalie unless your playing him instead of Pickard. Placing Pickard on waivers would be kinda nasty after Cal has been a more than adequate back-up for his price tag. Anyways I do think Cal would get plucked off of waivers with that cheap price tag he carries.

Fibonacci

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli

Paul Maurice tells reporters that Panthers captain Aleksander Barkov is undergoing surgery for a right knee injury.

Timeline for return TBD.

Fibonacci

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC

Going to know more in the next 24-48 hours, but Panthers are bracing for the possibility their captain, Aleksander Barkov, could be lost for the season.

Would be brutal, no one wants to see that…but, unfortunately, was a bad injury.

meanashell11

Did no one tell the Panther LTIR does not work anymore to circumvent the cap!

godot10

Anton Lundell is ready to be #1C. So they only need to find an elite #3C. If Barkov is gone for the season, they can offersheet Mason McTavish, but they probably lack the picks required…so nix that.

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Fibonacci

More likely Sam Bennett fills the 1C spot with Lundell moving to 2C.

Evan Rodrigues should slot in at 3C.

Moonlight

Maybe I’m wrong, it has happened many times before. If Barkov is out for the season, they can only replace him with a player at the league average AAV. That’s a helluva blow, not feeling bad for them but isn’t that part of the new CBA?

Bar_Qu

When I said in the summer that the Panthers have a tougher road to return to the SCF than the Oilers, this is not what I thought, but it is not unexpected. They’ve had three hard years in a row, winning twice & partying all summer(s). Fla was more susceptible to injury than any other team & it sucks that it happened to Barkov. It will be interesting to watch Zito adjust this winter to keep them in contention. The new cap rules make it that much harder for them.

rev.hans

I’m curious: why was Fla more susceptible to injury than any other team?

Reja

More Playoff games = more injuries.

Bar_Qu

Because they’ve gone to the final 3 years in a row & each summer has been very active for their players when they won. I’d say the losing team has a worse summer, but a lot fewer events.
Plus, with the way they play, it is harder on their bodies, imo. I could be wrong, but that is my prediction which I feel I should stand by, right or wrong.

Fibonacci

Offseason activity is not a known precursor of knee injuries.

rev.hans

Walking around drunk holding Lord Stanley above your head could be considered hazardous. I’ve noticed some Panthers do this in the water. This likely cuts down on risk of injury.

rev.hans

Thank you.

Tarkus

Prospecticism!

After taking last season off, the Dub returns to the NAmateur pool. And with Nicholl taking a turn this season as “designated Oilers gimped-up prospect”, the WHL gets the spotlight this weekend.

Lewandowski and Lafreniere were returned to junior earlier this week and are expected to be in their respective lineups tonight.

WHL games this season can be seen on Victory+.

Saskatoon (Lewandowski) @ 7 p.m.
Kamloops (Lafreniere) @ 8 p.m.

Both times, as usual, are Evansburg time.

leadfarmer

Speaking of Connor’s I think he is waiting for others to sign before he signs a team friendly contract, which he doesn’t want to be a “ceiling” for salaries

Bill

I had been thinking about this for a few weeks now. Just my thoughts but I wonder if there is friction between McDavid and the PA when it comes to what he’s willing to sign for and what the PA would be hoping for? If he’d sign an under market deal, it’d probably piss off the union.
Let the likes of Kaprizov sign for $16+ million, rising cap or not, that’s a lot of money to 1 player.

leadfarmer

He knows he can’t win the cup with a 17 mil contract but doesn’t want to piss of the nhlpa when he signs for 15 mil so he’s saying vague things like I may not sign until mid season to pressure Eichel Kaprizov and Kyle Connor to sign their contracts and then sign his. Unfortunately so far it hasn’t worked

Pretendergast

I can’t agree on Logan Stanley. The Jets play button down, which helps the backend with significantly more forward support than Edmonton’s makeup.

Helleybuck does what Carey Price did and polishes turds for a living.

Add to the fact that I’ve watched Stanley be a pylon repeatedly for years during my stint in Winnipeg and I’d say it’s a hard no from me dawg.

Stanley in Winnipeg is what Lucic was in Edmonton for a few years, the butt end of the joke.

godot10

This is not the Stanley the Oilers are looking for.

Reja

Archibald knocked him down like he was shot he’s a wuss just like Sheehy was.

Brantford Boy

Today’s conversation should really be about the Flintstones, I see you Barney Rubble’d the photo LT… in addition if we’re talking about bets… bet.. bet… bet… bet. I believe Darcy would approve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D50bjRjwHc

Scungilli Slushy

Mental health issues are around my family, so I am not speaking from a place of insensitivity or lack of experience. Edmonton is probably not a great fit for a player that has had some issues with this

It is certainly among the top teams in terms fan and local media attention, to the point Stauffer mentioned that hockey radio goes 365 in Edmonton, through the doldrums, and that is not the case in most markets

There is also the pressure of playing with two superstars and the highest level expectations. That’s a lot of pressure not in most markets. I think Bowman will wait until he finds a goalie he clearly sees as better or more what he prefers, which is what he said some months ago. Maybe it’s CI, I’m leaning to probably not

It is also a welcome change that Stan has been openly supportive of his goalies, praising them, nobody under the bus explicitly or implied. At the same time making it clear he would still make a change if it made sense, as it should be in pro sports

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