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Frederik is not great at receiving passes on the move, he did some good things in this game, but in the top 6, I think he is in over his head. The 3rd wheel with McDrai must have good offensive instincts and ability, Freddy doesn’t have this in his tool box. Square peg, round hole.

The 3rd wheel candidates, IMO should be: Tomasek, Mangiapane, Savoie & Philp (why not?).

razor

What do we think of this forward lineup?

Drai McDavid Federic
Howard Nuge Mangiapane
Pokolzin Philip Savoie
Janmark Henrique Kapanen
Lazar

Tomasek is not moving the needle for me. I think he needs some time in that A.

donkeyboy

Ike wasn’t the only culprit on the play, but his going the wrong way on the defensive boards led to the second goal against.

This is something he can work out in the A.
Based on overall pro-readiness, I have Samanski ahead of him.

Hutson struggled with the pace tonight, both by eye and metric.

godot10

Ekholm and Bouchard have been on the ice for five GA in two games, four with McDavid and Draisaitl. At least today, the foursome outscored their defensive miscues.

Bouchard will not make the Olympic team as a high event defenseman defensively.

OriginalPouzar

Its exhibition season – the performance of any of these players prior to October 8 means absolutely nothing come October 8 and beyond.

donkeyboy

Bouch is going to win the Norris this season.

OriginalPouzar

Per Tony B:

Kris Knoblauch says Vasily Podkolzin is expected to fly back Tuesday. Will resume skating with the team on Wednesday morning.

He won’t play vs. SEA Wednesday and will play in Vancouver on Friday.

wood99

I thought Regula and Leppänen were our 2 best dmen tonight. Good composure and nice outlet passing as well some strong defensive plays along the boards in both ends of the rink. Going to be some interesting decisions the coaching staff is going to have to make.

blackadder

I agree, I thought Regula and Lapenen both played well. Bouchard/Ekholm struggled but hard to say if that’s on them or the McDavid line’s scrambly play.

I was expecting more from Howard-RNH-Mangiapane. Mcdavid’s line – great on the rush, not so great at defending. Kinda liked Samanski, didn’t really notice any other forwards.

Skinner was better. No chance on the last 2, positioning wasn’t great on Vacouver’s first goal. Made a few nice saves, too. He needs to be better but his play is moving in the right direction. Suspect he plays one more exhibition game, hopefully he continues to improve.

90s fan

I am not sure the coaching staff has it in them to put either of these men on the team, regardless of whether they earn it or not…

I didn’t watch the game, but I was hoping leppanen would show well. Pleased to hear about Regula.

OriginalPouzar

Leppanen has some doozy moments and plays the the defensive zone.

Condors open camp tomorrow, he’ll be on his way soon. McCambridge has a job to do on Leppanen’s defensive structure and teaching some in to his game – there could be a legit player here but he’s going to need at least half a season in the AHL if not the year.

I’m not sure they can expose Regula…..

blackadder

He’s not ready for prime time. He has a skill level and level of offensive awareness that can’t be taught. But defensive structure can be and hopefully he’s a quick learner.

rich tm

Bouch & Ek look like their ready for preseason to be over. Neither has been that sharp tonight. I think it was Lepanen a couple minutes earlier who stood up the zone entry at the blue line. Have liked his play.

blackadder

Lepanen’s puck skills are impressive and his defense is better than I thought it would be (recognizing the Oilers aren’t playing an NHL level team tonight)

teamblue

Samanski has an awkward skating stride.

OriginalPouzar

Its going to be a LONG season with every single goal Skinner lets in leading to shredding on social media – every goal in exhibition, let alone what we’ll see come October 8.

wood99

It’s going to be a long year with you apologizing and making excuses for every goal this year.

90s fan

There is a difference between apologizing, and acknowledging that goalies get scored on… and that it’s exhibition.

wood99

Are you new to this blog. Op has been apologizing for 3 years for skinner.Im just waiting for him to bring up his rookie season and how good he was just in case we have forgotten.

90s fan

What difference does it make if I am new or not? Maybe wait to post your apologist comment for when it s more relevant.

Also in case you’re new, I am the leader of the skinner bandwagon. Ain’t nothing gonna knock me off. I am rooting for him all the way.

Reach Advantage

It’s going to be a long season you ragging on Ekholm every game

OriginalPouzar

I sure hope not but that one is up to him as opposed to based on a narrative.

Reach Advantage

pfff

rev.hans

Agreed. I have often wondered what fans get out of dissing the goalie (I grew up having to listen to my father, a Habs fan, rag on Ken Dryden when he had an off night).

blackadder

This is the Oilers. I remember sitting with friends and we’d be complaining about how many goals Fuhr let in through the five hole. “He’d be 3rd string on any other team”.

rev.hans

I’m curious: did any of you play goal? I ask because, while I’ve heard some criticism of goalies from other goalies, it’s rare. Non-goalies, however, enjoy nothing more than piling on the position most of them haven’t a clue about. What do these fans (not just Oilers fans) get out of it?

OriginalPouzar

Weak play on the defensive boards by Frederic leads to a grade A wide open shot from the slot – for the goal against.

Moonlight

There was no effort to battle for that puck by Frederic

rich tm

I’ll have to go back and watch again. Frederic did not look ready for the pass from Ekholm, but I didn’t think Ekholm put him in a position to do anything with the pass.

Moonlight

Rewatching the plsy, think you’re right

Moonlight

Skinner also down too early on the shot.

teamblue

Didn’t matter if he stayed standing or dropped down like he did, puck still would’ve gone through. He dropped to try see through the screen.

blackadder

That’s the October Oilers we’ve come to expect – sloppy coverage, giveaways, lack of a needed save – only a few days early.

donkeyboy

Drai set this sequence in motion with a bad pass intended for Ekholm that lead to the turnover. Also, Lekkerimaki made a great read to force the takeaway- he looked good tonight.

From there the Oilers are chasing without structure in their own end.

rev.hans

Agreed. Some sloppiness on the Oilers side; but give Lekkerimaki his due: he’s a dangerous player.

blackadder

Regula is starting to make a believer out of me that he could play top 6

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leadfarmer

So you believe him to be an NHL Regular.
Ill show myself out

blackadder

“I’m starting to believe he could play top six” is the sort of generic statement that doesn’t typically make people walk out the door, but you do you.

blackadder

OMG, I am so dense. Apologies to leadfarmer.

blackadder

Sad thing is, this is the exactly the sort of joke I like to make, to the annoyance of my friends and family….

blackadder

Sorry for being s bit of a dick to you earlier – that was a dad joke hall of fame level joke and it just flew right over me.

But it’s preseason, still a bit of rust in my commenting i need to work out.

leadfarmer

No worries. That’s what the interwebs for. Hope Regula finds his last r

OriginalPouzar

Solid save by Skinner there coming across the crease.

OriginalPouzar

Ekholm beat to the middle off the rush – got twisted/turned around – too reminiscent of the playoffs…..

Louis Levasseur

Not that it’s a huge deal, but why does the the Canucks broadcast crew do the preseason games in Edmonton? Makes no logistical sense to me.

rich tm

No it doesn’t. But it’s better than listening to Jack & Bob talk about everything except the game right now on CHED.

OriginalPouzar

The Canucks and SN have negotiated that all Canucks games are broadcast in their regional deal.

The Oilers and SN have not.

David

I’m a big fan of Regula. Keep him on the roster for sure.

OriginalPouzar

I wish the Canucks had a better lineup – he continues to look great but can only read so much in, right?

OriginalPouzar

Regula out there 4 on 4 – absorbs contact with the puck on the boards, comes out with the puck, makes a move and a smart pass to an attacking forward with time and space.

OriginalPouzar

Lazar/Kap PK 1 – also, interestingly, Ek/Emberson (which they used alot in the regular season last year) – Bouch was in the box but I suspect they would have gone with that pair either way – Bouchard will get more PK time this year, he’s good at it, but coach did say he wants to manage those minutes.

OriginalPouzar

Regula with a fantastic 3 zone pass to break Mangiapane and lead to some offensive zone chaos.

fishman

Always find it annoying when we have to listen to Canuck broadcast team for a home game…..

OriginalPouzar

Its them or nothing.

SN and the Canucks agreed all their exhibition games get televised in their regional broadcast package.

Oilers and SN have not negotiated that deal

OriginalPouzar

10 minutes played – 6 points from the top line…..

Reja

Frederic=Maroon I really noticed Frederic on the aggressive effective forecheck with the Bruins a few years ago. I kinda know why he looked so soft and invisible in the Playoffs. High ankle sprains are a bitch plus the cheap shot by Roy might of scrambled a few circuits in his head as well.

OriginalPouzar

Sick mitts by Leppanen with the toe drag in to quick release off the rush – didn’t score but it was sexy!

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John Chambers

Leppanen will play NHL games this year. He’s bona fide.

OriginalPouzar

Noah Philp continues to look highly confident with the puck on his stick in the defensive zone.

OriginalPouzar

First shot against, first goal…… Thatcher Demko!

OriginalPouzar

Per Tony B:

EDM lineup vs. VAN:

Draisaitl – McDavid – Frederic
Howard – RNH – Mangiapane
Lazar – Philp – Kapanen
Samanski – Tomasek – Hutson

Ekholm – Bouchard
Dineen – Emberson
Leppanen – Regula

Skinner

OriginalPouzar

Great opportunity for Howard tonight playing with Nuge and Mangiapane.

Fibonacci

Invisible.

fishman

Jays clinch!!!!!! 1 st place baby!

OriginalPouzar

I’ve probably watched 90% of their innings since the end of June and its been such an enjoyable ride – so many moments.

Hoping for a lot more in October – starting Saturday.

Reja

Hopefully Bichette returns. Who starts in game 1 against the Bo-Sox who will knock off the Yankees.

OriginalPouzar

Gausman, Bieber, Yesavage……

Reja

I say Bieber- Gausman-Yesavage

OriginalPouzar

Henrique, Savoie, Nurse, Stecher and Kulak skated this morning indicated they are NOT playing.

Tony B. said the following two lines ARE expected to play:

Drai/McDavid/Frederic
Howard/Nuge/Mangiapane

Canucks lineup sucks for tonight.

winchester

Oilers traded to get a high first round draft pick named Savoie.

if they want to use him as bottom six player they should have just kept McLeod.

winchester

They stuck Holloway on the fourth line forever. Kid had high motor and potential written all over him.

Fibonacci

Did you say Holloway?

Dom, Shayna and Sean at the Athletic weighed in for their season preview of the Blues.

“A player who sounded like a cost-effective third- or fourth-line option for the Blues — and looked the part under Bannister — immediately became a point-per-game producer under Montgomery.

His finish was even stronger: in the 20 complete games he played after the 4 Nations Face-Off, Holloway had 10 goals and 23 points. With him on the ice, St. Louis controlled 55 percent of expected goals and outscored opponents 21-8. He was a true two-way difference-maker..”

“Flipping ahead to this season, Holloway’s age, combined with the production and two-way substance he showed with relatively little experience, has the model buying in on him big-time.

He’s projected to produce like a high-end No. 2 forward with elite defensive impacts, and he’s surrounded by enough other talented forwards to increase his odds. “

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6659124/2025/09/26/st-louis-blues-2025-26-season-preview/

BornInAGretzkyJersey

New name, same sequence of posts. Some things, and people, never change.

cowboy bill

And Holloway will be demanding a healthy raise to remain with the Blues. Hope for their sake he’s worth it.

Fibonacci

As he likely should.

It’s notable that he has not been extended already so I imagine the Blues are waiting to see if his “pop” has sustain.

The Blues have an interesting salary structure with all their core players…Kyrou, Thomas, Buchnevich locked up long term in the $8 million range with Parayko, Faulk and, now, Cam Fowler on D coming in at near the $6.5 million range.

I’d guess Broberg will inherit the Tory Krug $6.5 million

DevilsLettuce

Broberg will be aiming for far higher then 6.5

Fibonacci

He might…doesn’t mean he will get it.

RFA with arbitration rights.

cowboy bill

They would have had to pay MacLeod. Savoie is a less costly option. It’s all about balancing the books.

OriginalPouzar

I have been very adamant in my agreement but, at the same time, the intent here is a long term top 6 player – this trade, like the Howard trade, was made for the short, medium and, likely, long-term benefits.

fishman

Kirk with a grand slam! Jays up 5-1!!!

Gaz Gazzersson

Alejandro having a day!

OriginalPouzar

Jarventie cleared as expected.

Brown too, of course.

OriginalPouzar

Stauff speculating on social media that the Oilers could keep all of Savoie, Tomasek, Howard, Philp and Regula on the opening roster – talked about needing internal growth and development and those in addition to Emberson and Podz.

As speculated, Janmark likely at risk in addition to Lazar and, now Stecher.

Waivers risk on Regula is not worth it – sorry Stech, hope you clear, we will need you if you do.

daniel

Interesting that the projected roster from Stauffer doesn’t align with the lines that have Philp as 5C and Regula as an 8/9. Does this say anything about differences of opinion between the coach and manager?

€√¥£€^$

That is a source of angst for me, as well. However, I think it is just the alignment for the following game, at least that is what I am telling myself.

If Lazar is the 4C and a healthy Philp is not on the SOR, I will be re-evaluating how I spend my time & money.

Reja

That’ll show them.

drewbot

The oil seems to get a lot of self-inflicted cuts. over and over.

cowboy bill

It’s pre-season you can only take the lines at face value. No doubt they want to see Lazar since Philp has seen more ice and so far, made the most of his opportunity. Regula finds himself in a nice position too since they probably won’t want to risk losing him to waivers.

David

That’s my concern. Stan may see the need for youthful injection but Knoblauch is a coach which means experience is first second and third in importance in his mind for success. Coaches are just wired that way.

bcoil

Maybe the GM and Coach are just show caseing some players for a potential trade

Reja

Pump and dump is my motto I was scared when Holland made a trade not so much with Bowman who’s so far is batting over 300. Its too bad Frederic reinjured his ankle on his 1st shift as a Oil. I thought Frederic would be the difference against the likes of Vegas and especially the Panthers.

leadfarmer

I hate the load up Mcdavid Drai to give the other lines a sense of identity. Mcdavid defers shooting to give it to Drai and makes us a one line team.
if you want lines to develop an identity than don’t go back to Mcdavid and Drai for 30 min at the first sign of trouble. And start using the 2nd pp unit. The top unit knows they will have the entire pp so they don’t have a sense of urgency.

cowboy bill

With both of Hyman & Podz not available they’re short on wingers, however they still seem to have some depth, which is a good thing, especially with the centers. So, in the short term it’s ok.

OriginalPouzar

Short because the coach refuses to give a young player the opportunity up the lineup?

Woodguy v2.0

Link to everyone put on waivers today:

https://puckpedia.com/waiver-wire

Woodguy v2.0

As per Puckpedia’s twitter everyone put on waivers yesterday has cleared.

DevilsLettuce

How did Rathborn clear!?! He was the next Bobert Raggidiny.

Fibonacci

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli

Mason McTavish’s six-year deal with the Ducks carries a $7 million AAV.

Fibonacci

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC

3 x $6.1M for Cam Fowler with STL Blues

Fibonacci

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris

Anthony Stolarz is signing a four-year extension with the Leafs carrying a $3.75M AAV

Fibonacci

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris

Anthony Stolarz is signing a four-year extension with the Leafs carrying a $3.75M AAV

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OriginalPouzar

Fine AAV for performance – unfortunately he’s only able to play 25-25 games per season.

Tarkus

Through two games, Lafreniere is an absurd 27-of-41 (65.9%) on the dot.

Red wolf

My third line is: Frederic – Nuge – Philp.
Frederic is the fearsome forechecker
Nuge mentors Philp
Philp helps Nuge with offside face-offs
All play responsibly on D

But alas we have not seen it. Sigh!

Sierra

I like it

godot10

Nugent-Hopkins, Philp, Frederic if one is running those three together. Philp is the centre.

cowboy bill

Tomasek is an RHC also that could slot in between Nuge & Freddy. But Freddy is covering for Hyman at the moment. Philp is the 4c, who happens to be an RHC also.

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I do not think Tomasek is a good Center option. Smart player, but he is just not fast enough. I think the top scorer from the SHL should be on McDrai’s starboard side during the pre-season. Freddy looked very lost there vs the sea monsters.

cowboy bill

They might see him as a better center option than Frederic. Once Hyman returns Freddy will be slotted on the third line IMO.

Red wolf

Centers can play wing. It is generally considered easier so starting with Nuge at center would be my preference. The plan is to set up Philp to succeed.

OriginalPouzar

Savoie is applying for the Connor Brown role. I’ll be honest, in my opinion that’s not what Savoie could do best for this team.

That’s exactly it. Yes, he can be a tenacious energy guy in the bottom six that kills penalties, he’s got that skill set. At the same time, his primary skill-set is a complimentary offensive producer with a skilled center and i don’t understand the coach’s requirement that he prove the Connor Brown role before the up the lineup role – this team is looking for players that can play up the lineup but they won’t give their most skilled option the chance, why?

Reja

Remember K.K is not a Bowman hire if they’re not on the same page then I can’t see K.K surviving a rocky patch that’s a little worse then the one Woody went through.

Sierra

At times I don’t get this coach. This is one of those times. Maximize the asset by playing Savoie with skill.

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DevilsLettuce

If he’s playing the Connor Brown role, he’ll be spending all sorts of time in the top 6.

Cant gaslight me into misremembering Connor Brown snuffing out the offense time and time again.

cowboy bill

That’s exactly right. I suspect both of Savoie & Howard will be deployed throughout the top 9. Hopefully neither of them will be snuffing out offense.

drewbot

Not smart? I don’t know, but they seem to do this over and over with different folks in charge.

cowboy bill

Either way if they’re together or on separate lines, it’s advantage Oilers.

OriginalPouzar

 I doubt Alec Regula has played well enough to take Troy Stecher’s (or Ty Emberson’s) job, but a trade might be in the offing. 

We’ll need to see how Regula does in the last few games with some increased pace but I’m starting to feel that the waiver risk is bigger than i first thought.

I am very well aware of the more famous names that slide through every year but, at the same time, big, mobile, right shot d-man with skill – he’s a tweener, yes, but only until he is more.

I see risk.

Reja

Regula is making this team he gets the puck headed in the right direction fast and he’s a much needed big body to block out opposition on net front presence. Stecher is the odd man out. If Regula climbs the ladder rather quickly this opens up a trade for one of our D.

OriginalPouzar

I think this is the likely outcome but would note that, at this point, he’s been able to “get the puck headed the right direction fast” in the first half of exhibition season – the next step is to do that when the pace picks up in the next few games – then he’ll need to prove it during regular season.

I agree though – waiver risk is too high.

cowboy bill

It’s a tough call, Emberson could be the odd man out because of his richer contract.
Stecher is probably gone next season. So, who knows?

OriginalPouzar

i would be shocked if they waive Emberson – Its either Regula or Stech (unless they keep 8).

OriginalPouzar

You can see the next round of cuts in this group. I think it’s impressive that both Josh Samanski and Quinn Hutson are still here, but they’re bound for Bakersfield as sure as Buck Owens.

Both have exceeded my expectations and make me even more excited to watch the Condors this season.

I am one always weary of “overager points” – this is mostly 20 year olds in the CHL but also players that seem to “pop” late in to a college career, like Hutson. Tough to see him any more than a “tweener” but he does have a chance at that role and maybe more – maybe the “next Hamblin’?

I can see him playing NHL games and giving “serviceable low event minutes” in a pinch.

Samamski, well, i didn’t know what to expect from him, if anything – that kid has offensive skill and he’s a long body and I lOVE his personality.

I’m cheering for him big time and thank Dallas Eakins for the recommendation.

Reja

I know it’s early but if you had to form a line-up card who are your projected PP1-PP2 on the farm as well as PK1-PK2?

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cowboy bill

Really?

Reja

OP probably has the best take of farm club over anyone. I know it’s early to be forecasting the Condors roster and deployment but you can’t live in fear. Pour yourself a nice cocoa with coloured marshmallows and let your mind wander.

OriginalPouzar

Its tough to say what they might do at this point. Do we know if Regula will be a Condor or Janmark or Howard.

One thing I hope is that Seth Griffith is NOT on PP1 – great Condor but its time to move on from that.

bcoil

Not only do they have to fit Hyman back into this line up but don’t forget Podkolzin. Who gets the short straw when they come back ?

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bcoil

Im leaning towards a combination of a trade and someone that doesn’t need waivers .

Shamus23

Going to the game tonight. I see the game is on Sportsnet as well.
Hopefully the big boys show up.
I do find it odd that Knoblauch seems to not like putting young players up in the lineup ( especially Savoie) to start out. Kid is very quick and talented. Guess he is trying to make a 3 rd line that has a bit more speed ?
I like Lazar and think he plays a very good 4 th line checking game and is a good pk guy. He is pretty much a career 50ish% face off guy and at 30 years old is still pretty quick. But Philp is 3 and 1/2 years younger and looks faster and quicker than last year and albeit a small sample size ( 107 faceoffs in his NHL career). He has a 56-57% face off win avg. I think if he is not kept on the team, he will get claimed. I also think that would be a big loss . Lazar could get claimed as well. Just me but Henrique even looks slower than last year and he really slowed down. It is unfortunate he has a NMC as personally I would waiver him. I think someone mentioned he wouldn’t waive his clause this past summer for a trade.
That is his right . I was kind of hoping Janmark would have been moved as well. But the coach seems to really like him. Yes he is very solid on the PK , but I would much rather see Savoie, Philp and Lazar pk’ing and playing rather than him. Doubt he gets traded, and some say he is in the best shape he has been in for a while. Hope so
Be interesting to see the final roster and who stays and goes.
Looking forward to a fun win tonight with some dominant performances by McD and Drai.

OriginalPouzar

I think Janmark may very well not be on the opening roster but waived and will clear. A trade may have cost the Oilers an asset to go with as he’s over-capped for term.

Shamus23

Don’t think he can ge waived with a modified NTC/ NMC

OriginalPouzar

He has a modified no trade clause, not a no movement clause – Janmark can definitely be waived (Henrique cannot).

Gaz Gazzersson

What is the nature of the Maximum Jones injury, i cannot find mention of it anywhere,

OriginalPouzar

its definite injury.

He left the game early – looked like a potential hip……

Its an issue if he is hurt come opening rosters as he will have a cap hit (it will be based on how much time he spent in the NHL last season) so maybe like 1/3 or 2/5 of his AAV.

Todd Macallan

If I remember correctly, Hamblin was waived to Bako in the previous round of cuts as well.

SKOilerFan

Interested to see this Kholm guy alongside Bouchard. Must be German

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