Red Wings at Oilers, G31 2025-26

by lowetideedm
  • At home to: Wild, Kraken, Jets (Expected 2-1-0) 2-1-0
  • On the road to: TML, Canadiens, Penguins (Expected 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: Bruins, Wild (Expected 1-1-0)
  • At home to: VEG, Flames (Expected 1-0-1)
  • On the road to: Flames, Jets (Expected 1-0-1)
  • At home to: Bruins (Expected 1-0-0)

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Funny Bissonness

Gotta wait and see how it plays out before passing judgement. But a few thoughts:
1)If you’re taking on all of Jarry and getting rid of Skinner, you better be right.
2) Sad to see two(!) local boys go. I will always cheer extra hard for players from Edmonton and area
3) I knew nothing about Spencer Stastney before today, but am intrigued. Looks like a real player on paper.
4) After a prolonged period of abysmal pro-scouting, our pro scouts have been money more often than not lately.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Have our pro-scouts been money recently??? Mangi and Freddy??

Funny Bissonness

Fair point! I’m waiting on trent still. High ankle sprains are tricky and I won’t pass judgment on that deal yet. I believe Mangiapane was a reasonable bet that just hasn’t worked out.

But I was thinking more the big deals. This Jarry trade is a big deal. After years of all our big deals working out about as well as Milan Lucic, we have gone through a period of Hyman and Ekholm that gives me faith here.

Reja

I do think Mangiapane is a streaky player whom I think will turn up the intensity come playoff time. He still has a good shot needs to get it off more often.

Fibonacci

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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4m
Been driving so here’s PIT/EDM deal:

Jarry & Poulin to Edmonton
Kulak, Skinner & 2029 2nd to Pittsburgh

Not sure what’s out there

Fibonacci

Nashville Predators

@PredsNHL

TRADE https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f504.svg

We’ve received a 2027 3rd round draft pick from EDM for defenseman Spencer Stastney.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Do we really think these moves make the team better? Jarry with no retention is scary.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Woof. Have to see what is included in the deals but I don’t know how this improves the team. Makes the D very thin. And we still have Pickard as back up. Ugh.

Fibonacci

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC

This is shaping up to be a very big day

There is word is Edmonton is closing in on a pair of deals…

Acquiring Tristan Jarry from Pittsburgh and Spencer Stastney from
Nashville

We will see how it all unfolds.

Tarkus

Oilers acquiring Jarry from PIT and D Spencer Stastney from NSH. Separate deals.

https://x.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1999494361550324212?s=20

https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1999493179029225861?s=20

Last edited 4 days ago by Tarkus
rich tm

Guessing Kulak is going the other way (for Jarry) to help with money, and Stastney comes in to replace Kulak.

Interested to see the other moving parts.

€√¥£€^$

I wonder if Max Jones will be part of these moves. Or if he fills in for a forward who is moved.

Diablo

If Frederic is going the other way, then I’ll consider this deal a win, regardless of what comes back.

Reja

We are going to win the next 6 of 7 if Skinner and Pickard can hold up.

Funny Bissonness

This comment aged rapidly.

rickithebear

My Proprietary Standard procedure of Goalie gm perf measure is
A. Number of closed sh (into goalie) without moving (Bio evo hunt = hit body takes over) each indv dmans side. X,y & Y,Z heat maps.
B. Number of Closed SH by goalie tracking puck movement each indv deans side with 2 heat maps.
C. Number of open SH into net elevation space indv def sides. Find a true OSH save% baseline = xG
D. Break up into further data sets based on Fwd quality of comp (xAvg o7/08) OSH targeting volume & Success rate.
This dates back to assumption every thing is regression.
But open/closed is an absolute 100%/0% which requires separate excluded data sets. Open SH are regression to each indv players : Dmen penetration & OSH reduction xAvg,
Fwds penetration & Osh targeting.
I was not able to articulate this in 07/08 we people first questioned my claim of Fwd indv. xG by x,y release, Y,z location, Type shot & Goalies hit rates.
Table hockey goalie Theory Ron Gunville (Late PP Dir PA Raiders age 7) position mid 70s.
I recognized The change from upright stance to Gunville pos. In table hockey games made it lower scoring = less fun!
We saw .865 starter save% avg go up to .915 in NHL.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

How would you explain the diminishing average save % of goalies across the NHL (currently 0.898) since peaking at 0.915 in both 2013/14 & 2014/15?

Is this a result of targeted open shooting tactics by players and coaching staffs?

Lewis Grant

Missed the game but just watched the highlights.

FOLKS, did you watch that first goal carefully? (I can find anybody having commented on it.) Watch the last two replay angles.

McDavid passes the puck through the legs of THREE different players to Hyman. THREE!! In tight, in the goal area!

That is insane!!

What a time to be an Oiler fan.

MushedPeas

same and same.

holy smackers.

McD’s third assist on the night wasn’t bad either.

winston

Was at the game tonight and paid really close attention to Frederic..he brings nothing to the table.,,like nothing!!! He needs to sit for few games.

Ryan

It really is different to watch the game live.

Back when I used to live in Edmonton, I vividly remember James Neal. I wouldn’t say that he couldn’t skate, but he really didn’t get around the very rink quick. He sort of played a half court game. He didn’t often cross the redline back into the d zone.

Pronger back in the day… Watching him live the first few times, I was sort of surprised. Less happened when he was on the ice than I had expected. He tilted the ice in an undramatic fashion. Nothing bad at all happened when he was on the ice, so you relax or go to the restroom without worrying. But watching him play wasn’t as exciting as I had imagined, which was perfectly fine. He was very efficient.

dangilitis

Great bounce back game.
Hopefully they bring it this weekend against Stecher and co.

Also, it would be a nice reward to bring Hutson up to play against his bro.

Reja

Yes bring him up while he’s on a heater. Let’s find out if Bowman is like Holland or more like Sather on being able to tap in at the right time.

DevilsLettuce

Bowman calls him up, coach plays him 8 uneventful minutes, crowd proclaims Bowman signed a stinker.

rich tm

Solid night. They used the middle of the ice more to break the puck out as the game went on and it worked. Took the body more too.

prefonmich

Nice to see Skinner having a little fun with the win. Super solid game by him and the team.

Reja

Attaboy Skinner great game let’s keep it going Saturday against some good shooters.

fishman

Skinner with a very solid night!!

DevilsLettuce

McDavid with 11pts in 4 games.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Guy must be made of antigravity, falling UP the cliff like that.

DevilsLettuce

12pts*

fishman

Hatty for Hyman! Music! 4 apples for 97!

dangilitis

Podz hit iron on purpose for a stoppage in play, all to set up ZMH’s hat trick

delooper

4d chess.

Funny Bissonness

Oilers and the empty net post, a love affair through the ages.

Bar_Qu

I actually thought the Oilers had vanquished the EN issue this year. Sheesh.

Bar_Qu

That’s better

prefonmich

Almost unfathomable how bad Oilers are at hitting empty nets. Must be making up for Patrick Stefan reverse karma.

delooper

Just as you say that, they get an empty-net goal.

prefonmich

Perfect! Exactly what I wanted!

LMHF#1

Vasily – you have to be better than that.

That stupid flip shot with a wet noodle stick got him there.

Wrister, slapper and proper snapper all go in.

Last edited 5 days ago by LMHF#1
delooper

The Detroit and Chicago commentators tend to be really interesting listening to. Had a rare moment of not-too-much-insight just a minute ago, talking about how few late-round Edmonton draft picks have panned-out recently. They didn’t think to ask “how many late round draft picks have they had?”

BornInAGretzkyJersey

The comment was fair though, that EDM hasn’t had a draft pick beyond the second round hit 60 points in the last 25 years.

There were plenty of late round picks prior to the last 5-6 years.

delooper

If I was in a Python mood I’d make a list of teams ranked by the total number of draft picks they’ve had over the past 10 years. Curious what that looks like.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Would be interesting to mull over, for sure.

fishman

Thankfully Kulak seems to have rebounded after really struggling. Good to see.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

DET broadcasters pumping Skinner’s tires on air right now.

prefonmich

Just watching highlights of Makar throwing a wrist shot on net to create chaos and rebound goal. Has anyone else noticed Bouch doesn’t take wrist shots anymore? Like ever? I wonder why? He used to score plenty like that. If I was d coach I’d be reminding him to use his wrister again, especially with how closely teams play him now.. give him more chance to get a shot on net and not get it blocked and/or headed the other way.

Hockey Project

I’ve thought the same thing a few times, but your post inspired me to check.

Yr Wrist Slap SOG Wrist% Slap%
2022 76 91 205 0.37 0.44
2023 59 54 156 0.38 0.35
2024 67 111 220 0.30 0.50
2025 63 106 235 0.27 0.45
2026 22 38 75 0.29 0.51

He’s been taking about the same amount of wrist shots the last few years, but definitely less than he did his first two seasons in the league.

Last edited 5 days ago by Hockey Project
prefonmich

Interesting how our perception shapes our reality..

prefonmich

Thanks for looking that up and providing context

dangilitis

DSF talks shit about the “decline” of the Oilers veterans, particularly McDavid, Hyman, and RNH, Ekholm, and Draisaitl, and on cue, all of them major positive contributors tonight. The reverse curse, it never fails.

Can you talk some shit about Frederic, now?

delooper

Wasn’t DSF an 80’s cassette tape manufacturer?

dcsj

Maybe BASF??

Admiral Ackbar

Imagine devoting the effort to more than a decade of daily menacing partisan hockey fans in some bizarre project to show them their own bias. That’s the charitable look. The alternative of daily trolling would be even more bizarre.

LMHF#1

Anyone at the game live – does Todd still whistle like an idiot to call his players off?

Hockey Project

I try not to complain about refs, but tonight they’ve been about as useful as an Amish electrician.

Scungilli Slushy

In today’s NHL players get to decide what they will do. I think Ekholm needs to channel his inner Pronger. Steady play, and if anyone thinks they should be a goof, he should crush them in some way. He’s enormous and I think they don’t want a piece of that

Not fighting paid semi skilled fighters. Kicking ass on the rest

OriginalPouzar

Ekholm is NOT a physical player. He can be dirty with his stick but he doesn’t use his body to be physical

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Sometimes it’s hard to tell when you’re being facetious.

Ekholm destroyed Finney in the first, and just laid out Copp in the paint a few moments ago.

OriginalPouzar

and a couple plays in this game change his career?

He’s not a physical player with his body.

This is backed up with hit stats (which aren’t worth a ton but, relative to his fellow d-man should tell an accurate story).

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Perhaps I see it differently. I see Ekholm being parsimonious with his physicality, in particular picking his spots for greater effect. He does it enough to keep guys honest, or gain an advantage on the puck, but not enough that he’s running around looking for a hit that’s not necessarily there.

fishman

atta boy Zack scoring in tight! Boy was he missed!

dangilitis

4G 2A in his last 6 games. (0G 2A in first 6 games back)

It’s a shame that he couldn’t get back from injury sooner. I will understand why he will be passed over for Team Canada, but he would give them everything he has and more

prefonmich

Big goal. That’s good Nurse.

prefonmich

A little lucky but get it to the net when big guns are out there.. simple play

LMHF#1

You see the arrogance of that ref who tripped Leon?

This new crew of ex players turned officials are the worst possible choices.

That guy deserved to get popped in the jaw after that reaction.

Prairie_Sentinel

These new NHL officials wouldn’t last half a season working Sask senior hockey

LMHF#1

No proper training and ex-players who couldn’t hack it but still have the ego complex. What could go wrong?!?

This league can’t get out of the bush.

prefonmich

Official needs to get out of the way there. Awful

LMHF#1

Not a penalty.

This league has gotten plain strange.

prefonmich

Weak call after dangerous play on Ekholm earlier completely missed.

fishman

Pods with a couple of big hits his last shift. Love that guy!

leadfarmer

Nurse with a what in the world was that play

fishman

Poor D play by 25 + 2 this year has led to quite a few GA.

OriginalPouzar

and 14 and 27

prefonmich

Nurse overplayed puck carrier and needlessly took himself completely out of the play. Granted he hasn’t been doing as much of that lately..

JJS

He did against Buffalo which resulted in his penalty and a PP goal against. He ‘dog whistles’ quite regularly

prefonmich

I was trying my best to not be as hard on him but I am often frustrated. He gets into trouble when he tries to do other people’s jobs as well as his own.. happens too often

JJS

Agreed. Simple Nurse is my favourite Nurse

fishman

De Brincat should have been penalized for taking Ekholm down behind the net.

SVR

Nice to see Ek get one especially after that big hit in the first.

OriginalPouzar

Big save by Skinner on a breakaway (two things I’m told he doesn’t do) and the Oilers extend the lead shortly after.

dangilitis

Going into tonight, 2-1-1 in past 4 games with a goals against average of 1.77 and a save percentage of .929. If he’s about to get on one of his patented hot streaks, I am here for it. It’s the games in between that have always been the issue with him as a starter

DevilsLettuce

Over the cliff McDavid hunting down the scoring lead.

dangilitis

Lol. Over the hill 28 y/o McDavid chasing the aged 30 y/o MacKinnon.
Also very much in the mix are the greybeards 29 y/o Rantanen and 32 y/o Kucherov…

yeraslob

Stammer with the hatty in smashville. Guy’s been invisible since leaving Tampa.

yeraslob

4 goals

JJS

Mcdavid has surpassed M Bossy in total points. Which means most future ‘quickest to’ milestones will be just Gretzky and Lemieux benchmarks. Unreal talent.

Reja

I hated Bossy who was just a tick better goalscorer than Ovechkin.

Reja

Hyman PP marker I was on his horse one game too early. I hope I don’t get banned for voicing a opinion on who I think might have good game. If this is the end of me so be it. I would like to thank my production crew and my handlers and of course my beautiful wife for having a sense of humour watching the Playoffs games while I’m stressed right out every time the opposition directs a shot at Skinner.

Scungilli Slushy

I have hesitation calling most pro athletes uninterested or lazy. But how they are playing looks lazy. There is no urgency

Looks like Bowman, having gone through 3 Cups, was right about refreshing the group. We wait

Scungilli Slushy

Sather did it as well

fishman

PP cash’s! Important goal.

Scungilli Slushy

With the amount of injuries the club has taken ‘blocking shots’ I feel a foaming rage

Playoffs sure. Reg season? Context. Getting in lanes, so there is no shot, facing the puck, where the pads are

Gaz Gazzersson

ZACHARY! 🚨

fishman

Wings with a hard forecheck and winning board battles.

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