Rangers at Oilers, G22 2024-25

by Lowetide
  • On the road to: CAL (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: NJD, VEG (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-2-0)
  • On the road to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: NYI, NAS (Expected 2-0-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • On the road to: TOR, MTL, OTT (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 1-1-1)
  • At home to: MIN, NYR (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: UTA, COL (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-0, 16 points in 13 games
  • November results: 5-3-1, 11 points in 9 games
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 10-9-2, 22 points in 21 games

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Tarkus

Prospectichuk!

Like yesternight, a dectet of NAmateurs will do the hockeying.

Day had another tough outing last time out, stopping only 15 of the 20 shots he faced before getting yanked after the first. His season stats have ballooned/cratered to 3.19 GAA and 88.6%. He and Clattenburg and the Birds of Fire oppose Akey & Wakely, Attorneys at Law in a rare four-NAmateur matchup.

The Tomas Mazura Parade of Apples continues, now with a dozen in as many games. Still just one goal though.

Muskegon (Berry) @ 4 p.m.
Notre Dame (Fischer) @ 4 p.m.
St. Lawrence (Mazura) @ 5 p.m.
London (O’Reilly, Nicholl) @ 5 p.m.
Barrie (Akey, Wakely) @ 5 p.m.
Flint (Day, Clattenburg) @ 5 p.m.
Ottawa (Stonehouse) @ 5 p.m.

All times are two times and are also Minburn time.

Bruce McCurdy

“That kid who scored twice” was a nice player to these eyes as well. Still 17 when he became a Memorial Cup hero, have followed his progress from that day forward.

Somehow he lasted all the way to the third round of that 2015 draft, #72 overall. Finished out junior career, played most of one season in AHL, got called up to stay at age 20.

Today the #72 overall’s magic number is 103. He has 103 NHL goals, a career +103, & has played 103 playoff games, winning 2 Stanleys,

Anthony Cirelli. What a steal.

JOFA

#53 still needs more time and patience IMO

NickShaver

My look-fors tonight:

  • Perry and Knoblauch’s comments about net-front play hit home and the Oilers invoke their inner G. Anderson (for his fearless net driving), R. Smyth, E. Moreau, K. Buchberger, etc. around the Rangers’ net and their inner K. Lowe, S. Smith, D. Manson, B. Marchment, J. Smith, etc. around their own net. I’m just looking for the message to start being realized. I’m glad Knoblauch sees what so many of us see. Following this game, I expect his practices to reflect this observation.

A thought that is pretty much impossible to prove:

  • If the Oilers’ scoring hadn’t fallen off a cliff for the 1st quarter of the season, would Skinner’s numbers still be so bad? If the Oilers were able to score some goals instead of being goalied, would the plays have developed that led to the goals against? Obviously, the Oilers would still make some mistakes, but with the HDSC suppression and other defensive metrics showing the overall defence doing well AND the Oilers having more leads and bigger leads, would Skinner still give up the goals he did?
DevilsLettuce

Oilers would be a 4-2 team in a 3-2 league if Skinner didn’t give up the goals he does.

Boil-in-the-Oil

And I might add . . . if our Oilers could score 4 goals per game (rough calculation, we’ve scored just under 3 goals per game).

Bruce McCurdy

Oilers at home have scored 2.27 goals per game, second worst in the league.

“It’s quite sad, actually.” — Punjabi Oil

€√¥£€^$

Turns out Holland was a competent GM after all….

The 2024 NHL Draft for the Oilers seemed like the best I’d seen in years, followed by July 1st optimism, followed by the offer sheet shock, followed by other moves that hinted of managerial competence, yet with question marks on Defense.

When the smoke cleared, the team was older and slower, but now is suspect in Goal, on the Blueline, on the wings and even on bottom 6 C.

Nowhere to go but up? We wait with bated breath.

Oilercoaster Ride indeed

Sierra

Have we heard what the trouble with Arvidsson is? I don’t even recall him being injured in-game?

Bruce McCurdy

He played into the 59th minute of his last game. No sign of trouble

OriginalPouzar

Coach confirms that Nurse is in tonight and Bouch is 50/50. The comment on Bouch is scary as that last player that was 50/50 will miss his 5th straight game tonight….

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Yep. You wonder if he has been dealing with a nagging injury. Would explain some of his recent play.

OriginalPouzar

Bouch is ill.

When he heard Dermott was sick it was reasonable to think he wasn’t the only one – it seems rare that only a single player on an NHL team gets sick.

fishman

So as many fans I am prone to overreaction in the moment. After two days there is still a play in the game against the Wild my mind will not let go of. Bouch is a wonderfully gifted offensive talent, but. On the 2 nd (or 3 rd) goal Bouch was standing at the side of the net. A Wild forward was next to him with inside position. Ekholm was fully engaged with another Wild forward. The pass came to the Wild forward next to Bouch who easily put it in the net. Bouch made absolutely no attempt to check the Wild forward, nothing! He stood there looking like a bell boy waiting for a tip! How is it possible he could be so unaware and disengaged???? Love the talent he has but holy cow he is labelled as a defence
man!

Bruce McCurdy

He actually backed away from the opponent (Marcus Foligno) while reaching for the puck.

maybe he was cognizant of not giving somebody else his germs. 😷

Last edited 1 hour ago by Bruce McCurdy
OriginalPouzar

Holy hell if Bouch can’t play…..

Looks like a good chance Nurse plays – that’s great.

Jeff Skinner still not allowed to play with the higher talent, every other option will be tried first.

Would be surprising to have Skinner start this game.

Tony Brar 

@TonyBrarOTV

Oilers lines at Morning Skate:

• No Hyman, Arvidsson

RNH – McDavid – Kapanen

Podkolzin – Draisaitl – Brown

Skinner – Henrique – Janmark

Caggiula – Ryan – Perry

• No Bouchard

Six D: Ekholm, Nurse, Kulak, Emberson, Stecher, Dermott

Skinner

Pickard

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Yikes.

And lol at the Skinner comment. The coaching staff clearly does not trust this player.

€√¥£€^$

Skinner can score goals, but not at a rate that out-scores his deficiencies.

His best days are behind him and he has no business on a Stanley Cup contending roster. Far too many soft plays are a hallmark of his game. Perhaps he will land on a bottom team as an important goal producer, but in Edmonton his game brings negative value.

The Oilers will not be contender while he remains in the top 9. He is no longer the even-strength out scorer he once was, at least not on this underperforming roster.

Elgin R

Total waste of skin. 156th in goals, 286th in points but is currently tied for 31st league wide in the race for the green jacket (#1 on the Oilers). Robidas island asap and bring up Savoie.

winchester

Everybody loved him in the summer.

OriginalPouzar

Derek Ryan has not played on the PK over the last 6-7 games – 2 minutes total in 7 games and I think that’s essentially when he gets put on for “face-off/get-off” and he loses the faceoff.

If Ryan isn’t even a PK any longer, is there a role for him on this team?

I think they want to give Philp a bit more runway in the AHL but Ryan was hanging on to his career by a thread to start the season and, without a PK role, that thread is starting to wilt.

fishman

Exactly!

NickShaver

I get the “want” to have Ryan on the team (smarts, RH C, good attitude/team guy), but I don’t get why he really is in the lineup when you consider his limitations. I agree that he is probably only there to give Philp some more time developing his pro game in the AHL following his year off from hockey. I’m hoping that a healthy Oilers lineup has no room for Ryan as much as I wish they could all contribute in meaningful ways.

TravisTDK

To be fair to Ryan, he has a 61.4% face off win percentge. For players who have taken more than 100 face offs these are the players ahead of him.

Barkov- 67.1%
Nico Sturm- 65.6% (has 99 faceoffs)
Jamie Benn- 65.1%

He is winning a lot more of his face offs than he is losing, there is value there. If there wasn’t Nuge at 55.6% (tied for 27th) would be taking them.

DevilsLettuce

While Podkolzin has earned his praises, they’re doing Draisaitl dirty lol

Against Minny, Nuge had some moments skating that leaves an observing thinking he’s battling some sort of lower body ailment.

3rd line could do everyone a whirl of good fortune having a big game.

Entire 4th line needs mobility scooters.

winchester

I hope thats Josh Brown on right wing. Somebody, anybody go to the front of the net.

flyfish1168

Many parts of the Oilers game is around Bouchard’s play. If he has a good game, we will be OK. If he plays as the shin pad assassin it will be a long night

Last edited 3 hours ago by flyfish1168
Reja

Any idea who the starter is? I do hope Kris doesn’t throw Skinner to the Wolves and goes with Pickard tonight.

iHockeyWpg
Shamus23

What team shows up tonight is the big question.
I am sure we will get a Vezina performance out of the Ranger goalie.
Let’s hope the coach has McD and Drai on separate lines tonight to start at least. They need 2 lines going.
I like the idea of Talbot if they are actually going out and getting a goalie. Wish they would get a D man before anything else.
I agree with you LT on Philp. He should be here right now. That bottom 6 is slow and especially that 4th line. ( Albeit Ryan plays his heart out every shift)
If Nurse is in tonight that will help out for sure.
Nuge needs a game .

teddyturnbuckle

Guys, with all these injuries are the Oilers accumulating anymore cap space?

teddyturnbuckle

OP?

OriginalPouzar

Massive break after tonight – lets have some good vibes for these 5 day after a heartening performance tonight – please!

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I think the Oilers win. This game is like the Ottawa game. A near guaranteed loss, facing a good team on prime time.

The Oilers usually do the opposite of expected. I say 6-3 win.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Savoie with 10 points in 15 games. At what point do we start to worry about his offence?

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Thank you for the sanity check. Some times my Oilers Fan Syndrome clouds my judgement.

flyfish1168

How did Jordan Eberle compare? I seem to remember he had better than a point a game.

flyfish1168

Jordan Eberle Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Jordan’s stats as a 19 yr old pretty good

leadfarmer

For a pro rookie who missed all of almost last season on a team that doesn’t score a lot I would say he is tracking as expected. Hoping for a spike after the new year and end the season just under ppg

SVR

Agree on Rodrigue. He should get a shot soon. He’s playing well, and looking at his db, his stats (save percentage) has tracked better than Skinner through the same stage of development all the way.
Too bad, he didn’t shine in training camp. Likely means he has to wait for an injury, or the last wheel to fall off Skinner before he gets a chance.

Hadn’t thought about Boyd Gordon for years. Had my son emulate his face off style while playing minor hockey. Face inches from the ice directly over the dot!

Woodguy v2.0

long December, with reason to believe that this year will be better than the last.

Love it

One of my favorite albums.

Brantford Boy

Great album… I hung it up years ago after the over play times. Somewhat recently I came across ‘Possibility Days’, which I didn’t even know existed… definitely worth the listen if you aren’t familiar…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dityp2WT_yE

Last edited 3 hours ago by Brantford Boy
Woodguy v2.0

Thanks for the recommendation

leadfarmer

theres a lot of place holders on this roster right now. Philp I’m sure they want him to get half a season in Bakersfield. Savoie probably most of the season. On top of the injured guys of Hyman Arvidsson and Kane
I think they really would like Rodrigue to have the season in Bakersfield but may be hard to do.
I hope Pickard plays very well so they can reset Skinnner

Sierra

Placeholders, for when?

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