Oilers at Capitals, G57 2024-25

by Lowetide
  • At home to: TOR (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: STL, CHI (Expected 2-0-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • At home to: COL (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: PHI, WAS, TBY, FLA (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • Overall expected results: 5-3-0, 10 points in 8 games
  • February result: 2-3-0
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 34-18-4, 72 points in 56 games

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fishman

Yea the cupboard looks pretty bare….. Pretty hard to stockpile talent when you trade all your draft picks. Scouting needs to start looking under rocks to find some undrafted prospects.

Harpers Hair

Could be quite a pivotal week in the standings.

While the Oilers enter the Valley of Death in Tampa, Florida and Carolina, Vegas and LA have an opportunity to make hay.

Tampa (18-7-2), Florida (17-10-2), and Carolina (21-6-1) all have dominant records at home.

All the fun starts tomorrow when Vegas visits LA where the Kings have the best (18-3-2) home record in the league.

LA then has Vancouver at home while following that with road games against Dallas and St. Louis.

Vegas finishes the week against Chicago and New Jersey at home where they have a 20-6-2 record.

LA holds 3 games in hand on both Vegas and the Oilers so could tighten the Pacific race significantly.

Sierra

Horrible 2-game stretch, and arguably longer than 2 games. Team has been flat with no spark over that period.

Benign Bone

McDavid is now 0-8 on-ice at 5-on-5 and 0-10 on-ice at EV in the team’s past 4 games. Not putting the blame on him completely, but that’s a rough total. Numbers for other notables are:

Ekholm 1-7
Bouch 1-4
Draisaitl 4-3
Hyman 1-5
Nuge 1-3

fishman

Well certainly match’s the eye test.

rich tm

He needs help. Team’s are defending him better (layers) and he doesn’t have help.

Two changes worth considering. Move Savoie up with him. Give him a player with speed who can help, can get teams backing up. Then, put pre-beak JSkinner back w/Drai.

Move Arvidsson at the deadline. He’s doing nothing. His best shot is on the goalie logo. He’s small and easily knocked off the puck, get squeezed along the boards. There’s a reason Nashville and LA gave up on him. Great heart, but nothing left in the tank.

yycyegyvr

This teams record against other playoff teams is abysmal.

They should be very busy at the trade deadline.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

I gotta say. If Ovie breaks the record, and Washington wins the President’s Trophy along the way… I think there’s a pretty strong Hart argument there (as much as it pains me to say as a Leon die hard). Washington seems galvanized by the chase, and are outperforming all expectations because of it.

godot10

Jack Adams for the coach, and Chris Patrick for GM, but no single player on the Capitals is Hart worthy.

rich tm

Klingberg might be a good passer, but I’m not seeing him good in his own end.

Not to say that’s the only thing that needs fixing. Right now, they are lacking in details defensively. They don’t work back to pucks and turn too many over.

Some of these smaller forwards just aren’t going to help. They keep doing the same thing over and over and over.

Last edited 2 hours ago by rich tm
BornInAGretzkyJersey

That was one ugly baby.

daniel

Ya gotta see the baby!

Chelios is a Dinosaur

That game was… breathtaking.

Decidedly Skeptical Fan

This team is hot garbage right now. Unwatchable. Trading futures at the deadline is not going to fix that.

colieo_87

Fire Dustin swartz please for the sake of the team. Hire cujo

BornInAGretzkyJersey

I’ve been trying to think of a strong candidate to replace DS for a while.

Ranford was promoted in LA, so he’s unlikely to take a step down. Burke is employed in MTL, they missed the slim window where he was available. Korn and Allaire, both perpetually employed. Essensa has been in BOS forever (was coach to Tim Thomas when they last won the Cup). Guys who look like potential fits and as being available:

  • Looks like Fred Brathwaite is busy with the AHL’s Henderson Silver Knights, maybe his work with goalies such as Logan Thompson merits a promotion. Considering he suited up as an EBUG for the Silver Knights as recently as 2022/23, perhaps the competitive fire still burns strong and he’d be interested.
  • Curtis Joseph was last busy with CAR as a consultant. Maybe he’s got the itch? Or maybe he’s just enjoying the quiet and family life (he has seven kids).
  • Tommy Salo looks to have gone behind the bench and into management in the SEL and various feeder leagues. Hasn’t been busy since 2023/24. Maybe he’s kept up on modern technique and could be a valuable hybrid goalie scout as well as goaltending coach.

Not sure if I prefer any of these guys, goalies being voodoo, but I don’t have my finger on the pulse of that part of the game and the who’s who among rising stars.

I’ve been banging this drum since Mike Smith hired his own consultant during the off season and came back looking ten years younger. Well, I brought it up when Duby worked with Burke and rose from the ashes, but that fizzled out as there seemed little appetite for discussion. I think Chabot was fired for less. Schwartz has had his chance and not delivered. Time for change.

daniel

When Ovechkin goes to the White House for dinner will McDonald’s be on the menu? Will Gretzky be invited? Putin too?

Last edited 2 hours ago by daniel
813.52Ran

Butthurt much?

Tarkus

Why the goalie pull when down by three?

Chelios is a Dinosaur

What the hell was the point of that.

rich tm

Fire the coach.

Gerta Rauss

Ovechkin may get the record before this game is over

Hockey Project

Right I was about to type “the Oilers are trying to give all-time empty net merchant an empty-net hat trick” Ovechkin got the hat trick on an empty-netter.

rich tm

Nice score off a forecheck.

Both goals this period involved pressure/creating mistakes.

SVR

Skinner trolling Knoblauch with another goal

godot10

Garbage time. Almost the entirety of Skinner’s career has been scoring in garbage time.

Sierra

You should have no trouble providing facts to support such a statement, right?

OriginalPouzar

Caps may let the Oilers get another to get an empty net for Ovie….

OriginalPouzar

or pull the goalie down 3 – i HATED that decision.

Lummer

A lost weekend. Remember that today’s Oilers are the same team that came back from 3 down in Colorado January 16

OriginalPouzar

Massive goal by Skinner………

OriginalPouzar

I’m not positive that Connor Brown with McDavid and Leon is the answer but here we are….

OriginalPouzar

Hyman with a small effort on a forecheck, a bounce off Arvy and a nice finish by Nuge.

OriginalPouzar

Klingberg was one of the few Oilers that I thought played well yesterday – he’s been worse than imaginable this afternoon.

Ty Emberson the Oilers’ best d-man this weekend…..

rich tm

The mistakes continue. Have to start wondering if the players are not capable of fixing this. Odd man breaks continue and no response.

Last 2 teams they’ve played are making them look old and slow. PP not doing it, PK has been atrocious. Goalies not getting help – and not making saves.

It’s a team failure at this point.

Last edited 3 hours ago by rich tm
DevilsLettuce

Let’s completely ignore the fact they’ve been battling for the division lead while being one of the best teams since the horrid 1st week of the season.

They definitely can’t right the ship, should blow it up and shoot for the lottery lol

They’ve never come out of long breaks slow and stagnant only to turn it around hotter then sun. Never has happened, not once.

Shamus23

Washington is big and tough and can skate. Built for the playoffs. GM did a great job this Summer. Good goaltending as well. Oilers are the exact opposite with 2 sensational players that without would be in the bottom 6-7 in the league easily without those 2. If they are not scoring and producing this team is not good

daniel

If you’re Tulsky and you need to move Rantanen, Bouchard is a delicious looking return. If you’re Bowman, and you can get Rantanen and Andersen on a rental, and you think Klingberg can supplant Bouchard, maybe that expensive rental looks good to you.

OriginalPouzar

1) Klingberg cannot supplant Bouchard (Klingberg was worse today than anything we’ve seen from Bouch)

2) Not trading Bouchard for any rental

Even if Bouchard does not find his game this season, he’s already shown us where his game can get to and will likely get to many many times in the next decade.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

This team does not know how to start. 4 Nations means two opening nights for this club, suboptimal.

daniel

if Skinner is your starter, why do you start him against the weaker team on the b2b? Does he have a bad record against WSH or something?

fishman

Do you seriously think that had we swapped goalie starts it would have made a difference ??

daniel

No. I just want to know why they made the decision.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Seems teams tend to play the starter against the first team to try and ensure one win, while playing the weaker goalie on the second of a back to back to try and juice up the team to play for the backup.

Sierra

How many teams play their backup goalie in game 1 after a long(ish) break? I’m betting few to none do.

LateNightOilFan

My thought is because KK pulled Skinner against the Avs before the break, he wanted to give Stu the net right away, which is usually how you treat a starting goalie. Plus, even though Picks has played most of his games against the weaker teams, he does have some wins against the stronger teams, and Stu was tagged with the loss the last game against the Caps.

Also, just to add, these 2 games are more about the defensive lapses being exposed, plus the inability to generate any sustained offense. Probably could have had either goalie in net (and any other goalies people are looking for) and the results would be the same.

Last edited 3 hours ago by LateNightOilFan
daniel

Good rationale. Thanks

OriginalPouzar

I wouldn’t put anything more in to it than it was the first game after a 2-week break – you play your starting goalie.

Bondo11

Pathetic…

Hockey Project

Right now, the Oilers look like they couldn’t organize a hunger strike at a fashion show.

Gaz Gazzersson

Closed door meeting [clap clap clapclapclap]

fishman

Appears to be very little fight in these dogs……

DexandRuby

Players only meeting led by captain Mcminus sounds pretty motivating.

Yukon Jerk

5 goals on 20 shots
2 days in a row
Woof

fishman

The Oiler 8 wingers are invisible. Getting very little done. Our offence has been reduced to 29 + 97 and some contributions from the D. 97 has looked a bit off all season. Combine that with less than average goaltending and here we are. Obviously we are still a top 5 team but showing very little last 5 games or so.

Crazy Pedestrian

Frickin oilers. Man they suck right now.
no way their winning a cup this year.

Harpers Hair

Pretty good chance we’re watching the cup winner in this game.

They’re wearing red.

prefonmich

They’re not even close. Only one player having a great season and the rest are mediocre to downright terrible seasons. I’m ready to write this season off completely. Hate to say that but what is their record against top teams? They will lose the rest of this road trip games at this rate and may be out of a playoff spot soon enough the way they are playing. There is no one coming to save them. This is not on the goalies. I’m done watching.

Shamus23

Honestly their record against the top 8 teams is like 3-10-2.

delooper

Oilers aren’t just losing they’re propelling all their opponents to new heights.

prefonmich

Ugh that was bad Klingberg on that shift. Ugly

813.52Ran

They’re laughing at us.

Neumann

Just getting crushed all over the ice.

OriginalPouzar

That was VERY VERY VERY poor by John Klingberg…..

delooper

Looked like a bad pass to me.

LMHF#1

That idiotic PK system doesn’t work.

prefonmich

This road trip could get really ugly really fast

fishman

Could??

OriginalPouzar

Imperative to get this kill to give themselves a chance…

OriginalPouzar

Nope!

Shamus23

Might be really good for this team to get shit kicked 6 or 7 – 1 today. This is a sad performance. Lol 5-1. This team needs a whole lot more than 2-3 additions

Shamus23

So now the Nuclear option. Lol. With 30 minutes left. Which leaves no other lines that look doom at all today

Shamus23

Well back to McD with Podz and Kappanen

Shamus23

This team looks slow and old. They have pretty much looked that way for a month

prefonmich

They are playing such a disjointed terrible brand of hockey. They look like more of a last place team aside from Drai

Mato

I really hate to say this but they look old and slow.

prefonmich

Old and slow and they only get hit, they don’t give hits. I honestly don’t know what Jackson was thinking in terms of roster construction with the signings he made. I’ve stayed quiet to now about it to give it some time but this team is skill without will and too many guys on the downside of their career peak.

DexandRuby

So hard to watch. I get taking hits to make plays but push back once in awhile! I swear Leon is the biggest physical threat of the forwards. That’s just ridiculous. Youd think some of these lower earning guys might have something to prove. Instead of just riding the glimmer twins coat tails.

OriginalPouzar

Its Ovi but that is a stoppable shot for sure.

prefonmich

Did you mean blockable. Dmen just parted the seas and let Ovie just snap it from right in the centre of the ice. No attempt to get in the way whatsoever.

Last edited 3 hours ago by prefonmich
OriginalPouzar

What a steal by Drai in the neutral zone and then holds the puck to set up Ekholm for a solid chance. Drai is so good.

OriginalPouzar

Rip that puck Connor.

Neumann

Clock management to end both those PPs. Have to be aware of when the penalized player is coming out of the box.

OriginalPouzar

Big save by Pickard on Chychrun there.

OriginalPouzar

Matt Savoie should be on PP2 – even if they have to go with 1D on it.

Tarkus

The Oilers did as much to kill that penalty as the Caps did.

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