Never Kept A Dollar Past Sunset

by Lowetide
  • At home to: TOR (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: STL, CHI (Expected 2-0-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • At home to: COL (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: PHI, WAS, TBY, FLA (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 0-2-0)
  • Overall expected results: 5-3-0, 10 points in 8 games
  • February result: 2-4-0
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 34-19-4, 72 points in 57 games

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rev.hans

“The trade deadline is the time of year when logic and reason take a holiday.”
Love it!
To Oilers management: Keep the powder dry.
To Oilers fans: Focus on the horizon. Step back from the panic button. This is a good team.

OriginalPouzar

The PK has killed off 5 of the last 13 opportunities part of that is goaltending (i.e. see Pickard on the 2nd goal yesterday).

Also, per Bruce McCurdy, six games in a row they have been scored on on the opposition’s first PP.

Wild stuff.

rev.hans

It’s amazing LT, you post the article at the top of the comments, yet so many commentators continue to say the same things, as if they haven’t read what you’ve written.
A case of: You can lead an Oilers fan to water, but if they want to complain about Bouchard or Stu Skinner many will refuse to drink…
Ps. If you’re reading this and wondering, What article? Here it is again: Read LT today in The Athletic on this topic:
https://flip.it/hhLDbd

OriginalPouzar

1) Not everyone has a subscription

2) Not everyone has to agree with the interpretation of the numbers.

OriginalPouzar

Coach confirms today was just a rest day for McDavid.

winchester

I like the idea of team building through the trade deadline. Chiarelli did it once with Patrick Maroon, a heck of a get for a 4th rounder. More recently we see Vegas shop at the deadline looking for keepers on sale.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

The trade deadline is when market prices for roster players are highest.

It’s the most expensive time to acquire players under contract.

If they’re going to go that way, they’d better be right and they’d better not pay too much.

Ekholm, like Maroon, and Perron, was a great way to pick up quality players.

I like the idea of picking up guys with no more than two years of term remaining. Call it an extended try out. If it doesn’t work out, can move them on for other assets.

As an example, last deadline I was big on acquiring Provorov to see if he’s a fit on his off-side with Nurse. I’d still like to see him here, but now there’s no term so a bit more risky to get him extended if things go well. There’s a chance he uses the time with McDrai to pump a UFA contract elsewhere, then we’re out assets for one playoff run.

Dave

Prior to Klingberg I was way opposed to looking at the goalie position. Small sample but he appears to be filling that 2RD spot. Regardless of cost .. In all honesty – Goal is probably our weakest position currently I wouldn’t say its do or die, but I would be I would be disappointed if SB wasn’t atleast looking for upgrades.. thats not easy but he should be looking.

Darth Tu

Before we flush Skinner out with the bath water, have we considered that maybe coaching is part of the issue? Maybe we should start looking at goaltending coach options. I’m seeing more than one comment regarding Skinner that seems to mention things about technique or process being what’s stopping him becoming a 1A rather than a 1B goalie. If Schwartz isn’t able to help him take that next step, or identify what parts of his game to improve then it’s time for him to go.

I might try to do a deep dive on this later tonight but if someone else is so inclined, maybe it’s a good plan to look at US Colleges and Junior teams and see which ones are producing the most NHL level goalies. If there are any places that have also had a consistent coaching staff over those years then surely that’s who you start talking to.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

I’m in full agreement.

So many (almost all) of Edmonton’s goalies have failed to take any kind of measurable next step, Skinner the lone exception, under Schwartz’s tenure.

I haven’t done a deep dive either, but mentioned yesterday in response to a similar comment that there are some interesting names who might merit consideration.

Curtis Joseph (as mentioned in the comment I replied to)
Fred Brathwaite (currently a goalie coach in the AHL, even suited up as EBUG twice)
Ron Tugnutt
Tommy Salo

I’m sure there are other, less famous names, and ones who aren’t Oilers retreads, but I’m not as plugged into the voodoo scene as much as I might be. This is who came to mind on the fly.

OriginalPouzar

Per Tony B:

EDM lines & pairings – Monday’s practice: 

• McDavid not on the ice (likely rest)

Podkolzin – Draisaitl – Savoie
Skinner – Hyman – Arvidsson
Janmark – RNH – Brown
Kapanen – Henrique – Perry

Ekholm – Bouchard
Nurse – Stecher
Kulak – Klingberg
Emberson

Skinner
Pickard

Defence are rotating through at practice here in Tampa. 

Pairings are mixed. These were just the initial rushes to begin skate. #Oilers

OriginalPouzar

I think the forwards are trending to a possible Arvy healthy scratch…..

rich tm

While I’ve liked (and watched) Arvidsson since he broke into the league with Nashville, the fact is he’s not getting the job done. Rob Brown – without directly mentioning him – pointed out that he skates it in along the boards, gets squeezed off, or stops and waits for someone to catch up. That gives the other team time to recover and the play just dies on his stick.

It’s that or a shot off the goalie’s logo.

While he’s someone willing to go to the net, he’s not getting it done anymore. It may be that he can’t be traded at the deadline and we have to wait for the off-season, but he’s been a disappointment.

Melman

I mentioned the other day re: Arvidsson – he’s a digger sure but the results are pretty meh and your description of the play on his stick is imo very accurate.

If the GM wants to do more than nibble, but not get into major surgery, Arvi @ $4M and Henrique @ $3M gives lots of options. I get that 19 has the + goal share%, but how often does he actually impact the game? He’s excellent defensively, but seems content with that and either lacks the will or speed to push things offensively. If RNH is off 1LW to be your 3C, is Henrique the best deployment of $3M of cap space? Maybe, but I think it’s a real question.

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OriginalPouzar

Back to Podz/Drai/Savoie at practice today.

Tarkus

Prospectilium!

The Birds of Fire get their turn in the spotlight.

Clattenburg has been better of late with 3 + 4 his last six GP. He is also the runaway leader in PIM for Flint (99, 2nd place 60).

Day just can’t get below his GAA back below 3. Allowing four in a win yestergame has him at 3.05.

Puck drops at 5 p.m. Evarts time.

winchester

Podkolzin – McDavid – Kapanen
Perry – Draisaitl – Savoie
Arvidsson – RNH – Hyman
Skinner – Henrique – Brown

Ekholm – Bouchard
Nurse – Emberson
Kulak – Klingberg

Pickard

This roster looks great if you are a bakery

winchester

Too harsh?

Yes a bit, I do believe these guys will come through. But will it be enough? Please lets get some vanilla out of the roster and pick up some players with unrelenting drive in corners and net front. Defenseman who actually clear the net. And players who don’t leave their teammates lying on the ice.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

McD wowys are fascinating.

Not sure what the solution is. He numbers are markedly worse without Drai or RNH on his line.

OriginalPouzar

Seravelli told Tyler this morning on Daily Faceoff Live that he taped an episode of Frankly Speaking on Friday (to air on Wed) where Bowman said “Don’t need to add a goalie”.

Of course, that was before the last two games but I don’t see Bowman panicking based on a small sample.

Of course, there are many that believe the season long sample, or the last few years combined, provide the need for a goalie upgrade but, as of 3 days ago, Bowman is expressing he does not believe think so.

John Chambers

It would be controversial and counterproductive for Bowman to say anything but that.

I would be rather surprised if Oilers mgmt wasn’t at least discussing options in goal and had a target or two in mind.

dustrock

Someone mentioned on reddit the Oilers are 1-8-2 against the top 2 teams in each division and outscored 45-27.

Harpers Hair

Elliotte Friedman on the radio just now…

He says Dallas is the leading contender to acquire Seth Jones from Chicago.

If that comes to pass:

Heiskanen – Jones
Harley – Dumba
Lindell – Lybushkin
Ceci

Oh my.

Harpers Hair

Friedman also saying the lead up to the trade deadline will be the “LTIR frenzy”

He mentioned Vegas specifically adding Shea Theodore to LTIR which adds $5.2 million to their deadline space which would give them close to $8 million for an acquisition with both Theodore and William Karlsson returning for the playoffs.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Dallas trading for Jones would be great for Edmonton. Make it so!

Harpers Hair

Jones is a very good defenseman on a very bad team.

Pretty sure he would thrive on a pairing with Heiskanen (who wouldn’t?) on a structured team like Dallas and with an elite goaltender behind him.

While Jones is overpaid any sort of retention by Chicago and/or the skyrocketing cap will take care of that.

Jones (6’4″ 215) would be joining a D corp that also features Thomas Harley (6’3″ 205). Esa Lindell (6’3″ 220) Lyubushkin (6’2″ 200 (Heiskanen (6’1″ 195) and Cody Ceci (6’3″ 210)

Nort sure how any of this is of any benefit to the Oilers.

OriginalPouzar

Where?

He spoke about Jones at length on 32 Thoughts including Dallas as a potential an never said anything close to them being the leading contender to acquire and spoke for a while about the challenges they would have acquiring the contract.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I am not sure I understand/buy the argument that because Stu made the finals last year = good enough to win this year.

Stu had a few good games in the playoffs but his overall numbers were not good. In many games/series the Oilers won despite mediocre goaltending.

I don’t know what to do about goaltending. Stu is young and cheap but he is also a very medium goalie.

rev.hans

Read LT today in The Athletic on this topic:
https://flip.it/hhLDbd

Skarlando

Just because Skinner is an Edmonton boy, does not mean he gets a free pass! My goodness, the media runs Talbot out of town for what was a sub par performance by the entire team, but Skinner gives up the first goal on the first few shots EVERY game, and nothing? His positioning is sub par, he can’t do the splits, or a butterfly slide, his RVH is brutal, and he looks like he’s swimming out there! Time for an upgrade, or at least someone who can push the river. Pickard’s been a good backup, but that’s all he is…

Reja

I believed Bowman would change directions on both Goalies in the offseason. Now l’m not so sure I have a feeling Bowman picks up another cheap on assets Goaltender with Pickard being the fall guy. Having a top 5 team with below average Goaltending will get you bounced in the 1st round. Its hard to win meaningful games where your hoping that your Goalie is at best equal with the opponent Backstop.

rev.hans

Read LT today in The Athletic on this topic:
https://flip.it/hhLDbd

godot10

Strome 27, Dubois 26, Chychun 26, Raddyish 27, Mangiopane 28, Sandin 24, Roy, 29, Thompson 27.

Not one of those guys was 30. They were mostly all entering their prime years, or still in their prime years.

The core of most championship teams are players between 25-30. Doughnut hole rosters almost never win. Superstars have a deep window, typically into their thirties.

Some of these players had acquired yellow or red flags, but the Capitals believed in their coach and in the Ovechkin control of the locker room.

That was/is one hell of a GM’ing and coaching job.

John Chambers

Also what Calgary has done in acquiring Sharangovic, Frost, Farabee, and Miromanov

anti-Trust Issues

Decisions based on small sample sizes that represent a statistical outlier rarely work out well.

Deciding to reinvent the goaltending and/or d-corps based on two bad games would be a poor decision.

steelymac

I would agree with you if the sample size was two games,sadly that isn’t the case.

rev.hans

Read LT today in The Athletic on this topic:
https://flip.it/hhLDbd

cowboy bill

is it really a small sample size though? Or an ongoing thing.

Scungilli Slushy

Lots of good thoughts today. I was on board with last summer outside of losing on the offer sheets

Those who weren’t on board may have been right about the team getting too slow, although I wouldn’t have wanted some of the guys back based on two playoff runs, which are what count the most

They need more spark and speed wouldn’t hurt. Unless Bowman goes full Kevin Lowe coming up, I fear yet another reset season while new management change the roster to what they want

The problem with being too slow as managers or timid, not wanting to hurt feelings or caring about the room too much, is that enough other teams don’t care and get better. Like the Caps did. And others. You fall behind and waste super star player’s seasons, only so many to blow

DexandRuby

Those who weren’t on board may have been right about the team getting too slow

There have been many times this year that I’ve been amazed by this team’s ability to make the puck do the work.

When they’re on, I don’t notice speed as an issue. I actually think nobody will ever stop them.

Now, when they’re off, they look old, slow, and uninterested. It’s almost unwatchable.

Is it simply a lack motivation during stretches of a long season? Waiting for playoffs and turning it on just enough to keep them in it?

I think having someone that causes chaos and brings the team into the fight, could help keep everyone engaged. How many times have we seen the team do better in games when they get pissed off or have a fight.

Scungilli Slushy

My take is that if teams let them do their thing they are fine, but if they pressure them full ice or collapse around the net, they can’t penetrate and break through, or put consistent pressure on. Sometimes Connor and Leon included. And many games the goalies help the other guys out with a softie, which kills momentum. All goalies let in some, but to me it’s more than some

They also don’t really push the pace on the rush as they once did. I think they are caught in a tough spot. The roster doesn’t suit how they are playing now, and the way they have to play to win deep means being better defensively

Bowman hasn’t really put his vision into place. It was a mistake to go into the summer without a GM. Makes me think that Bowman was the guy, and they had to wait for him

I have said the template was always in house. The team needs to be built like the 80’s Oilers were, and Sather went after it actively. Two superstars, one generational. High end offensive D man

First of all speed, then competent support players for them that are not easy to play against, play 100% and bring pressure most of the time, and a tough D that can play and enough big guys to bust cycles and make the net front an unfriendly place. Cherry on top is a goalie that can rise up and thrives in big moments, if you can find him

The ’06 team was also like that minus the high end talent. Really it’s how most Cup teams are built. This Oiler team can play at the highest level, but to me could be built better. They are too nice by nature as a group. That’s why Kane has such an impact on the team personality. You need the never back down balls out guys to keep the drive up

Younger guys trying to prove themselves can also bring the energy and attitude. One problem with older guys is yes they may want a Cup, but their story is mostly written, don’t have the same drive even if they are smarter. Perry may be an exception to that

OriginalPouzar

Natural Stat Trick isn’t working for me today, and maybe that’s a good thing. I’ve been writing for much of the season about worries over the Connor McDavid line, but fans are more concerned about the goaltending and defenseman Evan Bouchard.

The goaltending is a clear problem in the moment but we know this tandem has the ability to provide “good enough” goaltending to get this team to game 7 of SCF. Not saying an upgrade isn’t a good idea or anything but just that this tandem has done it within the last year.

Evan Bouchard has had a regression season for sure and he hasn’t recovered yet in recent games. Even with his poor season, he is 8th in d-men scoring and has a goal share at 5 on 5 around 57% (with an expected goal share over 60%). He has been elite/historical two playoffs in a row and, again, like the goaltending, no surety he gets back to the level of last year’s playoffs but its there.

McDavid has been uneven all season long and not as consitently postively impactful as we are used to seeing (not even close) and many games where he is a non-factor. Its just as concerning as the other two issues above.

Since returning from suspension, McDavid has played 8 games and:

- has 1 point at 5 on 5
- has 3 points as even strength
- is 5-14 goals at even strength
- is 3-12 goals at 5 on 5

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Rafa Nadal

Very concerning McDavid numbers. If he doesn’t turn that around, this team is out in the first round.

cowboy bill

Here’s 3 players Edmonton could acquire at the TDL that wouldn’t break the bank.
Karel Vejmelka & Ollie Maatta from Utah and Trent Frederic from Boston. Three depth pieces that address areas of need.

dcsj

We can see our weaknesses easily enough, but how easy to fix at the TDL? My view of the trade deadline in the past is that most of the trades don’t move much of a needle for those involved. Once in a while there’s a big score, but mostly it’s “desperation lottery” time

LMHF#1

“Can” win a Stanley Cup and “Should” or “will likely” win a Stanley Cup can be 2 different things.

After all, the ’17 team could have won. They certainly were lined up for it.

The trade deadline mistake a lot of teams make is the fixate on “filling gaps”. This shouldn’t be the way.

Upgrades are almost always available, and the deadline is often the cheapest time of year for these, rather than the most expensive, as it is for teams who go looking for a gap filler.

The Oilers should upgrade. Specifically the following players if you can:

Arvidsson
Brown
Kulak
and yes, Stuart Skinner.

The first two partially due to underperformance and partially because despite that underperformance, the coach leans on them like a crutch. Neither can deliver enough to deserve that or serve the team.

Kulak appears to be sputtering out after having been asked to do more. The Oilers D makeup means he cannot be an excellent #6 and has to play essentially a #4 role, so go upgrade him.

With Skinner, a few reasons: his ceiling isn’t high enough to justify the inconsistency, goalies are available (the new goalie market is fascinating), and he still has value if you moved him. I get why people don’t want to, but I’d be looking quite hard, and definitely grabbing a high potential ceiling young guy for the AHL. It is unfortunate Rodrigue didn’t continue his rise. That was looking good for a while.

Scungilli Slushy

Stu isn’t bad, but agreed he’s at his ceiling now. I base that on Kevin Woodley’s take. He has some technique issues, and that is exactly what we see when there are weak goals. Binnington does as well, keeps him out of talk about the top goalies. Lots of ability and so athletic, can’t keep his positioning and that causes weaker GA

I don’t think Pick is bad, but a better player can’t hurt at the right price. Kulak had issues last season as well and was better in playoffs, like Janmark . Arvi missed most of last season and like what Brown went through might still be getting his thing together. Also adjusting to the Oilers weird way of playing that seems to cause a lot of players trouble. I’m not sure a replacement fares any better, but won’t be surprised if Bowman tries

OriginalPouzar

I really have no idea what Bowman may or may not do in the next few weeks. What I do know is that he is a very experienced manager and I think it’s unlikely he over-reacts to small sample sizes.

Of course, this roster needs some changes and upgrades but, at the same time, what this roster needs is not necessarily a reflection of the last month but on the season overall, in my opinion.

I mean, the team has been crap from apx 10 games and the last 3 have been brutal. At the same time, the team is tied for 5th overall in the entire league.

Point simply that the last 3-10 games is not necessarily reflective but look at the season as whole.

I would suggest that the likes of Vegas and Dallas and the other teams in the Oilers tier have also had 3-10 game stretches where their play is not indicative of the team generally.

Oilers are slumping and slumping badly – as their competitors have for stretches this year.

If anything, what the Oilers need is their incumbents to get back to historical levels of play, namely: McDavid, S. Skinner, Hyman, Bouchard, Nuge, Ekholm.

rev.hans

Hear hear!
The most important thing for us as fans right now is to trust the depth of talent on this club, and settle ourselves down.
I did not like this last stretch either.
I do not like that Bouchard is still playing mega minutes when he is clearly still suffering from the bonk on the head when Reeves ran him into the goal post.
I think it’s hilarious that there are those who’d swap Skinner for Binnington or Gibson, neither of whom are an upgrade.
I hope we get to see more from McD (though he may be “saving himself” for when it matters; January-February is not when it matters -except at 4N).
Breathe.
As LT says, “Keep your powder dry.”
Go for a walk.

OriginalPouzar

I do not like that Bouchard is still playing mega minutes when he is clearly still suffering from the bonk on the head when Reeves ran him into the goal post.

WIth respect, this continues to be baseless speculation every time you post it.

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

I couldn’t catch either game on the weekend. How does Klingberg look? By what I’ve been reading, he might be a serviceable #2 RHD. Is there any chance they don’t need to upgrade there?

cowboy bill

IMO Klingberg is certainly a skilled puck mover that has shown his abilities offensively, but he does lack on the defensive side of things. His partner needs to make up for this deficiency. I don’t know if Nurse is the right guy, maybe he might be a better fit with Ekholm. Bouch can play with either Nurse or Kulak, while Emberson can do the same. With the way Bouch is playing right now maybe some time on the third pairing would send the proper message and at the same time let the coaching staff get a good look at what they have in Klingberg.

rev.hans

I’ve liked what I’ve seen. But he, like pretty much everyone not named Leon, struggled these past two games, defensively.
ps. Jeff Skinner was, to my eye, with Leon and Emberson, another lonely bright spot this weekend.

cowboy bill

To my eye Jeff Skinner lacks breakaway speed.

rev.hans

That is indeed what we saw on Sunday: poor breakaway speed.
We also saw a beautiful goal: smart play, great hands.

LateNightOilFan

The Town Heroes – “Take On The World” [Official Video]

I’m new here, but also from NS. Wondering if you ever saw this video The Town Heroes did in partnership with Hockey NS, you’ll like the jerseys they are wearing at the beginning. 🙂

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

I have, and I love The Town Heroes!

OriginalPouzar

Klingberg was one of the few players that I thought had a good game on Saturday and, on Sunday, he looked like a non-NHL player….

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Bad weekend. But who thought this team would come storming out of the gates? This team does not, ever, do that.

There were periods where they dominated and then eventually didn’t get the goal they needed and then sat back and gave up. Pretty lame, but also par for the course with this club, often.

Its in those stretches of dominance that you can still see last years’ team, but they lack, as someone said yesterday, “jam”.

This missing intensity makes them look disjointed and slow, and rudderless. They make lazy plays and don’t win puck battles or execute passes on the PK/PP.

Why are they lacking this “jam”? Or better, how will they find the required motivation to carry that “jam” across a full 60? I think this team needs to add at the deadline, but more important is the constant and necessary mental re-set. This is a team built for a good time, not a long time.

The optimist in me says its the result of a seasonal strategy, perhaps at least somewhat subconscious, of coasting into the playoffs, where they will meet their old friend, The Fear Of God, after which they will start whipping the puck around like they know how to do.

The pessimist in me says: 1) the loss of forward speed was not overcome by scoring veterans after all; 2) Ekholm is a year older and slower and the point on the graph where you find the magic between him and Bouchard has slipped because of Ek’s age in combination with Bouchard’s own “seasonal strategy” (of being not nearly good enough with the puck in either end); 3) McDavid is starting to tire… of what? We may find out; 4) The goaltending we have is good enough for last years’ team but not this years’ team.

I think the pessimist is probably correct here, but these things can be fixed.

SVR

I don’t know why these guys can’t figure out how to start on time, whether, after a break, beginning of seasons, beginning of playoff series, and most individual games. Been going on for years now. Goal differential by period tells you all you need to know

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rev.hans

Dear Optimist, I’m with you.
Dear Pessimist, On point
1) NHL EDGE says this year’s Oilers are overall slightly faster, with more speed bursts over 33kmh than last years. League rankings remain the same.
2) For at least the past three weeks Ekholm has been sick, plus he got no break over 4N. The man needs the rest his D-partners got (but he won’t get, at what cost? One reason to be unhappy with mid-season exhibition series’s).
3) McD is the mystery. He’s still high in the scoring race, but as Strudwick suggested, may be playing with a “governor.” He was exhausted in Game 7, 2024 and does not want to repeat?
4) Stu Skinner was hot/cold last year. He’s been that this year. Flashes of what had him beat both Oettinger and Bob (in terms of SV%) in spring/summer 2024. Not unlike others who regularly are blamed for their team’s stumbles (eg Binnington, 4N until Final).
Patience dear Pessimist. This is, to my eye, a better team than last year.

OriginalPouzar

Bad weekend. But who thought this team would come storming out of the gates? This team does not, ever, do that.

Well, they did win 14 in a row coming out of the Christmas break last season (5 days with no games)….

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Brantford Boy

Doubt I’ll get much sympathy from those in northern Alberta, but I woke to find my truck battery was dead this morning.

I think the Oilers could use a recharge as well. Will Bowman do a trickle charge (ie: powder dry/depth), or get the Eliminator 5 year warranty (ie: $5M+ player with term).

Putrid results over the weekend that’s a fact.

rev.hans

Trickle charge I’m thinking. This team, like your truck battery, does seem to need some basic maintenance. The PK is a good place to start. As the PK, so the Oilers…

Bar_Qu

The proximity of the TDL and the poor results in the last 3 games are complicating factors here. But most of the issue right now is the team as a whole is playing poorly, and the coaching staff can’t seem to get them out of that funk. It would make a lot more sense to make the decisions that are needed based on when the team is playing to its potential, and not when they are doing their absolute worst.

cowboy bill

When they’re playing to their potential everything is peachy, it’s when they play at their absolute worse the cracks are clearer. This might not be such a bad thing that they’re seeing this now, because they have the opportunity to make the improvements required at the TDL. That’s my view anyways.

Bar_Qu

Fair enough. I think they aimed too low with the bottom 6 construction last summer (should have kept Holloway!) and the bets for scoring wingers have not paid off. I still think Arvidsson is valuable for the playoffs, so I would keep him, but we need upgrades for Janmark and Brown.

cowboy bill

LOL I see Arvidsson, a $4M cap hit with no trade protection and Janmark & Brown as valuable for the playoffs with reasonable contracts.

Jethro Tull

I thought we had good periods where we cycled and dominated but just couldn’t finish. Then the puck is in the back of our net. Deflates the team. Shoot the puck.

cowboy bill

Washington definitely looks like the #1 team in the league. Edmonton can learn something from their roster construction.

Bar_Qu

You mean catch lightning in a bottle? Chrychrun is scoring well above his historical average, Logan Thompson is playing better than should be expected and there are a couple of other guys who seem to be ignited by Ovi’s chase for overall scoring leader. I think they come crashing to the ground next season but still play better than they did last year. Lucky is not a plan.

cowboy bill

I guess we’ll see how that all translates during the playoffs. But I think their style of play could possibly be very successful for a long playoff run.

Scungilli Slushy

Rob Brown was commenting on the way they play. Meat and potatoes hockey, and that makes it easier to know what to do. Basically dump and chase, suits the bigger not really fast players, and as Brown said, they aren’t a high skill team up front outside of Ovi, just playing a way that suits the roster, and they are scoring because of it

The Oilers players still don’t seem to know when to do what or where to be shift in and out. It leads to disjointed play and often not great support for the fella with the puck

cowboy bill

Oilers are more successful when they keep it simple. There’s something to the way Washington plays and that’s the right way.

rev.hans

And their emphasis on “shoot the puck.” A few too many passes when shots on goal might have made a difference, all season.

Shamus23

That was a terrible weekend.
Lots of things went wrong.
D was terrible
Goaltending wasn’t great for sure
The team was not playing good before the break. They definitely look worse now.
They look really old and slow to be honest.
They really need a #4 D man. Klingberg got a goal but did not look good otherwise.
Bowman really has his work cut out for him. But what can he really do?
I think a lot of the moves they made in the summer have not worked out. Henrique has gone downhill, Arvidson is a bust for sure, Skinner is scoring a bit, but not where we all thought he would be, Brown is ? , Janmark has not been good lately, pods is a gritty 3/4 liner but not a top 6 guy, The D is porous.
I guess it depends on if Kane is back early or if they can use that LTIR $.
I really think this team could lose all 5 on this road trip. Let’s hope not, because then pricing will go up on whoever they try to acquire .
Oil are in a bit of trouble

rich tm

Would only add the team was not playing good defensive hockey. The forwards were not helping with the way they managed the puck. Back checking was not consistent. They hung their goalies out to dry too many times.

The PK has been atrocious that last 8+ games and I wonder if it’s fatigue, aging players slowing down. Sticks are in the right places, but there have been deflections and cross seam passes that are getting thru that weren’t earlier. You say the goalie needs to make a save – yes. But the goalie also needs help and is not getting it.

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rev.hans

PK! Start here. When it’s working, Oilers are flying.

JJS

This is spot on. I fear the team has regressed from last year and is missing some chemistry/grit/speed/energy.

And while I agree with the ‘powder dry’ approach, how many more years do we really have?

If Bowman can improve the team with astute trades without kneecapping the cap, he should.

How? Trade a few underperforming players (named above) for others who fill the ‘grit/speed/energy’ mold.

And get the RHD we have needed for years. Bouch is inconsistent. Klinger is a hope and a prayer. Emberson is rising. The others are placeholders/fill ins.

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