2024 Semifinal Game 2: Oilers at Stars

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kinger_OIL

— McDrai playing way too many minutes. 5-6 more than Stars best

— over 7 games that’s not sustainable…

Harpers Hair

Sid
@NHL_Sid

Edmonton’s third line has now been out-scored 1 to 6 in the playoffs thus far (14% goal differential).

Ryan
Harpers Hair

Woodguy
@Woodguy55

EDM had looked just gassed in the 3rd
9th game in 18 days.

Harpers Hair

Rust vs. Rest always turns to rest.

Yukon Jerk

You’ve posted this multiple times in this thread.
I know math is hard, so hopefully this will help
Dallas went 7 games against Vegas
Oilers played 5 vs LA.
Dallas went 6 against Col
Oilers played 7 vs Van.
Stars have played 1 more playoff game
Series is 1-1
The only rust I see is your schtick

Harpers Hair

Dallas got 3 extra days rest before this series started.

It’s a big damn deal.

Ryan

Fatigue could be a factor. McDavid is skating like a mere mortal, so I’m hoping it’s just fatigue.

Still something didn’t rhyme in the offensive zone. They couldn’t make passes or get shots on net. Dallas had very active sticks taking away the east west passing lanes.

I think Deboer made a systems change and Knoblauch was too slow to react.

I look forward to the Curlock report.

Last edited 6 months ago by Ryan
Harpers Hair

The biggest systems change was Dallas having a man high in the defensive zone ready to take off.

Not only does that put pressure on the Oilers D in the zone but it makes puck retrieval paramount.

Ryan

Contract aside at some point the Oilers need Nurse to show up for these playoffs. We’re 14 games in.

https://x.com/OilersJack/status/1794566045816246769

https://x.com/OilersJack/status/1794566045816246769/photo/1

Harpers Hair

I think DeBoer has figured out that pressuring the Oilers D is the way to victory.

Not coincidental that Nurse -10, Desharnais -7 and Ceci -6 are top contenders for the playoff green jacket.

SelathioHarms

I know no one cares about plus/minus (it’s a team stat) but this is actually interesting and worse than the eye test would indicate. Comparing all players +/- of the final four, EDM is the extreme outlier here.

Harpers Hair

Plus/minus doesn’t tell you much but it does tell you something.

I suspect DeBoer has spotted a critical weakness and is trying to exploit it.

SelathioHarms

Weakness, probably for sure… I think we all see this. Calling it a ‘critical weakness that DeBoer has spotted’, I mean, sure. He’s found the teams weakest defensive paring and is trying to exploit it. What coach isn’t doing that?. You suspect a lot of things. “Pressuring the d”, is like every coaches plan to victory.

Harpers Hair

The worst plus/minus among Dallas D is 0

Two of the Oilers D pairings are underwater.

Bling

I thought that was a really good game from the Oilers, minus some lack of finishing. The puck was bouncing a lot — seemingly more so for the Oilers — which caused some issues in terms of finishing and/or being able to get the shot away in time.

Nuge made a pass down low to Hyman at one point — I would have loved to have seen him pick a corner and rip it instead.

Nurse has been on for some GA but IMO none of them have been his fault. More importantly, I believe he is moving the puck *much* better. I saw him make a couple nice, on the ice bounce passes off the boards. More please.

Draisaitl was terrific. 97 getting there, still not 100% through the neutral zone. Still hesitating to shoot at times, even when he does decide to shoot it feels like he really doesn’t want to. Hopefully whatever ails him is getting better.

Getting Henrique back, at or near 100%, is going to help that third line. And I trust that Knoblauch will get some favourable matchups at home.

Lewis Grant

Oilers seem pretty proud of their performance tonight. Not sure if it’s confidence or ignorance. There’s a pretty fine line between those two.

jtblack

it is Maturity ….

Yukon Jerk

If you told me before the series started the Oilers would be going home with the split, I’d have said; “Amazing!” especially considering the verbal from the talking heads.
But they are taking home sometime just as important as the split,
Belief & Confidence
Oilers are every bit as good as the Stars & in some areas, better.
Skinner has found his game & the bottom 6 are contributing.
Bottom line
It’s a great spot to be in & that is F¥cking Fantastic

Gerta Rauss

Yes, agree with all of this

It’s a tough loss, but I’ll take a split all day every day

They ran out of gas but I think we match up well against them

I like our chances

Darryl8843

Knoblauch calling out the refs and the league in a politically correct way after a long pause. What a beauty

McSorley33

Load them up ….keep doing it

godot10

Kane seems to stand the entire game on the bench. He doesn’t appear to sit down.

Sierra

So?

godot10

With his injury, sitting and standing up must cause some discomfort.

Darryl8843

He doesn’t want you to think he’s tired or not trying

McSorley33

Dominate game.

Coach gets credit from Simpson

Loads up McDrai in 3rd.

Wow.

Plumbers record only goal of game

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Soooooo Coach K with a pretty epic fart on that goalie pull eh?

Why would you signal to him in the middle
of a line change when Dallas had three guys back?

Id take McLeod out for a game. Give him the Stu treatment. He’s clearly fighting it all
over the ice and he’s a black hole on the Dallas side of the redline. He’ll benefit from a rest.

winchester

Kane came up short

McDavid getting more speed, but still not enough to beat the D

Dallas D were allowed to do their thing, they don’t want to play physical and Oilers didn’t hit them hard. And that high man is completely new look for Oilers to play against, it really spreads out the ice.

Skinner first goal a bit weak, but big saves thereafter.

Oilers looking for perfect goal again, we’re not in front of goalie for their own lucky bounce.

prefonmich

Couldn’t disagree more. Benn with a perfect shot. Looked pass and low blocker quick release. Skinner not at fault on either goal. Boys played hard. Dallas a great team and playing more desperate. Oilers had so many shots blocked and passes. This is Dallas’ strength. Oil also coming off a g 7 game series. The difference was minimal all considered and could have gone our way just as easily.

winchester

Stu should stop a wrist shot above the circles all day

kaotic

We are a more physical team than Dallas. If we don’t start being aggressive and punishing them, finishing our checks, we aren’t going to win this series. We have to play to our strengths. It’s as simple as that.

finn_fann

I much prefer the game when the oilers are tied or up a goal. The way Dallas plays with the lead makes me think they won’t give it up too often.

Lewis Grant

Well, 1-1 out of Dallas isn’t bad, especially since the Oilers were competitive both games. Much better than I expected.

According to expected goals, Oilers should have been up 2-0 after the first, and won 3-2.

But Dallas is a good team, and the Oilers will have to keep their focus and drive at 100%. They’ll have to play better than they did during the third period.

Munny 2.0

Munny 2.0

Reply to  OriginalPouzar

May 25, 2024 7:01 pm

I disagree with both of you.

I think these next two periods will be the reveal.

How Dallas responds with their back to the wall will tell us what they really have. Last five periods have nowhere near the meaning and import as the next two

And you know Deboer is ripping his players a new one right now

OriginalPouzar

Reply to  Munny 2.0

May 25, 2024 7:09 pm

I don’t agree with that at all.

One would think the first period with their backs against the wall would be the reveal.

I don’t agree that the next two period are more important than the first 5.

.

Lol. And this might’ve been the easiest prediction of the night

Last edited 6 months ago by Munny 2.0
Harpers Hair

Rest came home to roost early in the second period.

Rust is gone now.

DevilsLettuce

Hey Foghorn Leghorn It’s called adjustments , Knobs will have his response ready for game 3.

OriginalPouzar

I still don’t agree that the last two periods of this game were more important that the first game.

Munny 2.0

Maybe you should re-read those posts again. You don’t seem too clear on their meaning.

prefonmich

Zero shame in that effort. One goal off Des pants the difference.

Lewis Grant

Looked like a nice tip by Marchment to me.

delooper

Not a bad game, Oilers. Had a lot of good chances and pressure. Sometimes it doesn’t work out.

finn_fann

Dominant in the first, even in the second, faded in the third. I think if they come out of the first with 2 goals it would’ve been a very different game

TheGreatBigMac

Not enough sustained pressure, the Stars had more. You could see the lead up to the second goal they were pressing successfully we need more of that. Passes seemed off more tonight, wonder if it’s fatigue or the ice. Either way looking for a better game 3.

OriginalPouzar

Disapointing result tonight – needed to cash more in the first.

Two good hockey game in Dallas.

Either team could have won either.

Oilers going home for two where they’ve been dominant for a long time.

Gotta be Derek Ryan out for Henrique – he was poor tonight, barely played on their PK and, well, is old so a rest is always good, right?

drago

I agree. I have lots of time for Ryan, but he was not good. Obvious candidate for replacement IMO.

Ryan

Need to get the Curlock report.

The Oilers soundly outplayed the Stars in the first. Gave up the better chances against in the second.

By the third, something was broken on the coaching side of things.

We definitely got Deboered in the 3rd period.

Harpers Hair

Didn’t you notice all the Stars stretch passes in the last two periods?

DeBoer has changed things up.

Sierra

I posted earlier Ryan out for Henrique. Ryan was weak tonight and is having trouble keeping up. Also, Henrique can be the scoring threat on that line.

SKOilerFan

Another perfect game by rhe Stars for infractions! Such BS. Make the penalty differential look better when the game is done. Classic NHL

striker

What were the two power plays for again? What were the infractions? Honest question. Couldn’t watch whole game.

Last edited 6 months ago by striker
Sierra

Not the Oilers night. Needed more than 1 goal in the first period.

Munny 2.0

Refs making sure the scoresheet looks like they were actually at the game with whistles

gogliano

I’d put Henrique in for one of the 3rd liners.

Diablo

Henrique is a top 6 forward. Gonna be nice to have him back in the lineup for game 3

Professor Q

They’ll regroup and do better once they get back to Edmonton. They were in this game the entire time I think, and are evenly matched with Dallas. Just have to mitigate the senseless mistakes and inopportune decisions.

giddy

Oilers ran out of gas by halfway through the second. Dallas with the rope-a-dope tonight.

leadfarmer

Lol now you call a penalty

Tarkus

Game managers gonna game-manage.

Prairie_Sentinel

Garbage time calls are the worst, we’ve drawn one PP in two games that was of any consequence.

prefonmich

Not the best time to pull Skinner imo but game could have gone either way. Going home series tied.

Diablo

Getting the split on the road is just fine. Oilers were in this game the whole way. Stars win on a lucky bounce.

Diablo

Flush this one and win the next two at home.

KnightRain

What a bad pull…didn’t even have possession…

Darryl8843

Stupid time to pull the goalie. Over two minutes left without possession and the first line not on.

godot10

Bouchard literally moved out of the way for Lindell’s shot. What was he thinking?

Darryl8843

He was probably thinking it would be fun to make you think what he was thinking

Derek

Maybe the worst goalie pull in the history of the national hockey league. Wow

Darryl8843

It was just dumb. Over 2 minutes left no possession. Players changing. Just bad

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Why in the hell was Skinner called in?

That is so stupid

Tarkus

Why pull Skinner when you don’t have possession?

Diablo

Just a terrible time to pull the goalie.

gogliano

That’s a terrible pull

dsr29

Unbelievable. Just said to my son, watch them pull the goalie without possession of the puck.

Professor Q

Bouchard needs to do better there but at least it was a shot attempt.

Last edited 6 months ago by Professor Q
prefonmich

One shot

Munny 2.0

Even too many men going uncalled

LMHF#1

Are they going to drive the puck deep at any point instead of continuing to try stopping or turning at the circle?

That play isn’t there.

fishman

Not much room out there. Dallas playing a pretty tenacious team D. Shoot it in and fore check like demons!

Professor Q

Maybe a timeout for now and reassess how to get the offence going?

KnightRain

Lay it all on the line, Guys!!!
Get it on net and drive!!!!

dunterpunter

You worried? Who’s worried?

Time to not worry.

dunterpunter

I’m still not worried

Hockey Project

It’s been a hell of a long time since Dallas really gave up any chances. They seem to be knocking down everything.

Derek

Theyre playing great with a lead, still attacking when it’s there. I wish the good guys knew how to defend a lead like this. Edmonton looks a bit tired TBH

thelongdark

Just can’t get anything going.

Munny 2.0

Five Stars guarding the blue line and Drai tries to carry it in multiple times. smh

Lewis Grant

We deserved a lead coming out of the 1st. But since then, Dallas has had too many chances. That last Dallas goal felt like it was coming.

Derek

Dallas getting alot of good looks going low to high slot.

giddy

Terrifying flashbacks to VGK last year

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

McLeod line does zilch offensively and is now a liability on the GAs…

Gotta swap it up Coach K, can’t have that.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Ryan on the 4th