2019-20 Game 40: Oilers at Canucks

I saw Ethan Bear make a terrific pass on Saturday night, absolute beauty to Josh Archibald for the Oilers second goal against the Montreal Canadiens. In a world where everything happens at warp speed, the game has slowed for this rookie to the point where he could see the play, execute the play and do it with style. Oh man. Ethan Bear.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Lowetide: Should the Oilers pursue Lias Andersson in trade?
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Broken toes, holiday-time hospital visits and memories of home: A week in the life of Oscar Klefbom, the Oilers’ do-everything defenceman
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Grasping Mike Smith, Leon Draisaitl and the Oilers’ recent plight by reading between the lines
  • Lowetide: As Oilers’ auditions of fringe forwards nears conclusion, it’s time for Condors’ top prospects to force the issue
  • Lowetide: The key missing element to the Oilers’ brilliant top line
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘We called him ‘The Crane”: Teammates and coaches reveal their best Connor McDavid stories
  • Jonathan Willis: Should the Oilers have outbid the Coyotes for Taylor Hall?
  • Lowetide: Connor McDavid’s frustration and the impact it could have on the Edmonton Oilers
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers need to figure out five-on-five woes quickly, starting with Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl
  • Lowetide: Who should be the next man up from the Bakersfield Condors?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: 10 subscriber questions for Oilers rookie defenceman Ethan Bear
  • Lowetide: Five loud noises Ken Holland could make to help the Oilers immediately
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects list, winter 2019
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 5 prospect, Winter 2019 — Raphael Lavoie
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 4 prospect winter 2019: Tyler Benson
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 3 prospect winter 2019: Ethan Bear
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 2 prospect winter 2019: Philip Broberg
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 1 prospect winter 2019: Evan Bouchard

OILERS AFTER 40 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015: 16-21-3, 35 points; goal differential -22
  • Oilers in 2016: 20-13-7, 47 points; goal differential +5
  • Oilers in 2017: 17-20-3, 37 points; goal differential -17
  • Oilers in 2018: 19-18-3, 41 points; goal differential -6
  • Oilers in 2019: 20-15-4, 44 points; goal differential -3

This year’s Oilers got to 20 wins before Christmas, that’s a helluva feat. Lots of negatives around the team during December, and we can remind ourselves about the five wins at the start of the year. They’re massive today.

OILERS IN DECEMBER

  • Oilers in December 2015: 6-4-2, 14 points; goal differential -7
  • Oilers in December 2016: 6-2-4, 16 points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in December 2017: 7-4-1, 15 points; goal differential +8
  • Oilers in December 2018: 6-5-1, 13 points; goal differential +2
  • Oilers in December 2019: 4-6-1, 9 points; goal differential -9

A win tonight and this year’s team can see the 2015 and 2018 team, and perhaps set up a miracle run to respectability by the end of the month. That’s a big ask.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN DECEMBER

  • On the road to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: OTT, LAK, BUF, CAR (Expected 2-1-1) (Actual 1-2-1)
  • On the road to: MIN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: TOR (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: DAL, STL (Expected 0-2-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: PIT, MTL (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: VAN (Expected 0-0-1)
  • At home to: CAL, NYR (Expected 1-1-0)
  • Overall expected result: 6-6-2, 14 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 4-6-1, 9 points in 11 games

If the Oilers can win two of the final three games this month, they’ll finish 6-7-1 and that would have to be considered sweet victory after all that’s gone down in December. Long way to go and disaster lurks around every corner. As always.

OILERS 2019-20

I’m more excited for the Sheahan line than the McDavid trio tonight. Why? You can find players who will have some success alongside 97, but Dave Tippett is at mid-season without another line he can count on. That checking trio is very bad news for Jujhar Khaira because Tippett’s other third line is usually a speed group.

CONDORS 2019-20

Kirill Maksimov, who I ranked No. 12 on this year’s winter top 20, is on another run lately. In November he went 1-3-4 during a four game stretch and in his last three games the young winger is 1-2-3.

When we discuss him, it’s based on our observations of him via boxcars, anecdotes, highlights and scouting reports. He has some nice things but is long shot even now to make the NHL. That said, Ethan Bear was in the same spot back in 2017 when he turned pro.

You never know. And the funny thing is that math does help but isn’t the absolute authority. Here are the leading rookie points-per-game numbers for Oilers F prospects in the AHL at age 20 since 2004:

  1. Tyler Benson 2018-19: 68, 15-51-66 (.97)
  2. Rob Schremp 2006-07: 69, 17-36-53 (.77)
  3. Magnus Paajarvi 2011-12: 34, 7-18-25 (.74)
  4. Marc Pouliot 2005-06: 65, 15-30-45 (.69)
  5. JF Jacques 2005-06: 65, 24-20-44 (.68)
  6. Kailer Yamamoto 2018-19: 27, 10-8-18 (.67)
  7. Teemu Hartikainen 2010-11: 66, 17-25-42 (.64)
  8. Kyle Brodziak 2004-05: 56, 6-26-32 (.57)
  9. Slava Trukhno 2007-08: 64, 14-21-35 (.55)

The success is Kyle Brodziak in this group, and that may tell us something about the two current prospects listed here. Benson has the wider range of skills (in my opinion) and perhaps will have a better career. One thing is certain: No one had a first year pro like Benson in the years 2004+. His season was the best in the group. I will tell you Brodziak has one thing in common with Ethan Bear. At the 2007 training camp and preseason, he blew past a plethora of first-round picks and won a roster spot with ease. Perhaps one of the keys in winning an NHL job in today’s league is blowing away your previous fitness numbers and then flattening preseason competition.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

We start the week strong at 10 this morning, TSN1260. Thomas Drance from The Athletic-Vancouver will start the party at 10:20, we’ll talk about the Canucks, their brilliant young roster and expectations for the season. Jason Gregor from TSN1260 will pop in at 11 to preview the Oilers story for tonight’s game and we’ll talk some NFL, too. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. theDjdj says:

    Nurse is a legit elite fighter

  2. OilClog says:

    Nurse vs Lucic is going to be knucklemania, hopefully ends with a Darnell roar and spartan kick.

  3. Material Elvis says:

    Pettersson ran Koskinen.

  4. theDjdj says:

    wtf is that call how is that matching penalties. Woeful woeful Petterson made zero effort to not run into Koskinen

  5. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Markstrom is next up

  6. Ben says:

    Darnell Nurse isn’t even the best drummer in the Beatles.

  7. Professor Q says:

    theDjdj:
    wtf is that call how is that matching penalties. Woeful woeful Petterson made zero effort to not run into Koskinen

    That’s been Pettersson’s schtick since his rookie season. He always gets calls for stuff he initiates – because he has terrible balance and awareness, is always flippy floppy, and usually ends up falling over, so the refs are fooled.

    I still remember him hauling Jesse down and Jesse getting called for Tripping.

  8. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers basically play a “Sieve” defence then blame the goalies lol

  9. OriginalPouzar says:

    Solid road period.

  10. hunter1909 says:

    Ben:
    Darnell Nurse isn’t even the best drummer in the Beatles.

    He hits the hardest that makes him more of a metal drummer.

  11. Lowetide says:

    Haas ends the period on a dogged check in his own zone with all hell breaking loose. What. a. player. from. nowhere.

  12. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide:
    Haas ends the period on a dogged check in his own zone with all hell breaking loose. What. a. player. from. nowhere.

    Please ffs explain this. What do you mean he has 4 points or something.

  13. theDjdj says:

    Professor Q: That’s been Pettersson’s schtick since his rookie season. He always gets calls for stuff he initiates – because he has terrible balance and awareness, is always flippy floppy, and usually ends up falling over, so the refs are fooled.

    I still remember him hauling Jesse down and Jesse getting called for Tripping.

    It’s weird how this petal gets the run of calls but mcdavid has to be hacked to pieces before they make a call

  14. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Peterssen- this franchise must value penalty differential more than most teams. They always have a healthy roster of D Bags and it seems usually have a positive penalty diff at the end of the season

  15. hags9k says:

    Haas is Swiss for haul ass.

  16. theDjdj says:

    hunter1909: Please ffs explain this. What do you mean he has 4 points or something.

    Zibanejad made comments to this the other day. How in Sweden youre measured by your work ethic and not your point total. He is an absolute work dog that does all of the smalll things extremely well. He doesnt score but he does contribute to wins

  17. theDjdj says:

    hags9k:
    Haas is Swiss for haul ass.

    good.

  18. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Nuge having a great game. Leon looks like a shell of himself these days. Not liking his decisions tonight.

  19. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    2-1 Edmonton (1-0 Edmonton in the second)
    20-20 shots (13-11 Van City in the second)
    40-27 Vancouver Corsi five on five (23-14 Vancouver in the second)
    ==

    McDavid line 10-3 Corsi and 9:01. I think they run them heavy this period.

  20. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Nurse goes 150%, 200% of the time.

    He just needs his guidance system calibrated and it’s Larry Pronger time.

  21. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Darnel would be worshipped in Philly

  22. who says:

    teddyturnbuckle:
    Nuge having a great game.Leon looks like a shell of himself these days.Not liking his decisions tonight.

    Klefbom has defended well tonight.
    But man, he has made some terrible decisions with the puck. He must have 4 or 5 unforced giveaways already.

  23. jm363561 says:

    theDjdj: Zibanejad made comments to this the other day. How in Sweden youre measured by your work ethic and not your point total. He is an absolute work dog that does all of the smalll things extremely well. He doesnt score but he does contribute to wins

    A good description of Anton Lander!

  24. Professor Q says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    Nurse goes 150%, 200% of the time.

    He just needs his guidance system calibrated and it’s Larry Pronger time.

    The Larry being Larry Robinson or Larry Murphy?

  25. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Lowetide:
    Haas ends the period on a dogged check in his own zone with all hell breaking loose. What. a. player. from. nowhere.

    I like him.

    Hopefully he finds some range.

    I wonder if he might not be good support for Connor at some point. If roster finds depth and the flies go away

  26. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Professor Q: The Larry being Larry Robinson or Larry Murphy?

    Either would do, I was referring to comments recently about Robinson and CFP.

    I don’t remember Murphy being as crusty as the other 2 and Darnell.

  27. Reja says:

    Professor Q: The Larry being Larry Robinson or Larry Murphy?

    Could be Larry Fine.

  28. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Dria looking tired often. Bet He’s ready for the break

  29. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wonderful block by Caleb Jones – didn’t look pretty but effective.

  30. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Not sharp to start 3rd. Dont think this will end well

  31. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oh, that’s no goal I would think.

  32. Gerta Rauss says:

    looked like a kicking motion to me

  33. SK Oiler Fan says:

    In Van, that’s a a goal

  34. hags9k says:

    boy that’s close.

  35. Sierra says:

    No way it’s being overturn3d

  36. Gerta Rauss says:

    hoo boy…not sure what the hell that was

  37. theDjdj says:

    wtf if that’s not a kicking motion idk what the fuck is. That is an absolute dog shit call

  38. OilClog says:

    The fix is in

  39. Halfwise says:

    NHL doing what it does best, right there.

    Even the homer announcers could see a kicking motion.

  40. theDjdj says:

    jm363561: A good description of Anton Lander!

    Lander would be handy on the 4th line right now. Haas is a better skater.

  41. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Not sure I like the line selection after the review. And the next line out?

  42. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Binge watching season 23 of ‘Oilers Getting Fucked by Video a Review’

    Most nail biting television but I always know how it ends

  43. Sierra says:

    How was Horvat allowed to go to the net all by his lonesome?

  44. John Chambers says:

    The Canucks broadcast, which includes John Garrett, unanimously agreed Horvat had kicked it in.

    How could anyone judge it otherwise?

  45. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Horvat just missing cleats & a Messi jersey for fuck sakes

  46. theDjdj says:

    Halfwise:
    NHL doing what it does best, right there.

    Even the homer announcers could see a kicking motion.

    He literally moves his foot forward to guide the puck into the goal. That is just an absolutely woeful decision. The NHL’s inability to adequately referee their games is genuinely frustrating as a fan

  47. SK Oiler Fan says:

    7 min in and 2nd shift for McDavid??

  48. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Sierra:
    How was Horvat allowed to go to the net all by his lonesome?

    Dria was looking for the fast break off Koski’s pad

  49. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Another pass by 97 to traffic

  50. flyfish1168 says:

    Knuckleheads starting to be a pretty dirty team Person should getting more than a hold on that sequence

  51. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Well, at least we all know that if the nucks pull off a win by 1 goal, we will know that the refs and NHL are definitely trying to control the outcome of the game.

  52. Sierra says:

    Crazy Pedestrian:
    Well, at least we all know that if the nucks pull off a win by 1 goal, we will know that the refs and NHL are definitely trying to control the outcome of the game.

    We should be more concerned with how Horvat was wide open

  53. Gerta Rauss says:

    PP opportunity slips away and you know the refs will even that up with a Canucks PP before the night is over

  54. hags9k says:

    Next call is coming against the Oil. no question.

  55. OriginalPouzar says:

    The one goal game stat is the worst stat the networks pump out.

    The Oilers are NOT 11-2 in one-goal games. They’ve given up an empty net goal like 8-9 times this year – those are one-goal games that don’t show up in the stat.

  56. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Cue the Pettersen flopping

  57. Reja says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    PP opportunity slips away and you know the refs will even that up with a Canucks PP before the night is over

    He kicked the fuking puck in if I’m Tippett I’m going after the refs in post game.

  58. Halfwise says:

    Crazy Pedestrian:
    Well, at least we all know that if the nucks pull off a win by 1 goal, we will know that the refs and NHL are definitely trying to control the outcome of the game.

    Simply out scoring is not enough. They have to beat the margin of RefSuck.

  59. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Man tippett has kept the Ferraris in the garage this period

  60. hags9k says:

    joke

  61. tapper says:

    On what planet was that take down on Nurse not a penalty?

    On the “you just had a PP” planet.

    This league is nuts.

    I knew I shouldnt have tuned in the third after my own game.

  62. LadiesloveSmid says:

    I mean what are these calls?

    Do they lose on the back of that Too Many Men?

  63. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Fin Nuge. Let them walk right in uncontested then went chasing. Brutal.PK

  64. Sierra says:

    Shitty zone coverage on the PK, especially the two forwards.

  65. flyfish1168 says:

    tapper:
    On what planet was that take down on Nurse not a penalty?

    On the “you just had a PP” planet.

    This league is nuts.

    I knew I shouldnt have tuned in the third after my own game.

    I don’t understand how it can be missed

  66. Bling says:

    What a brutal too many men call.

    That was not even close to being a penalty.

  67. Keith says:

    Homer refs trash league

  68. Bank Shot says:

    Sierra:
    Shitty zone coverage on the PK, especially the two forwards.

    That was all Nuge. Just terrible. Hopefully they can find a plus two way guy that can PK to replace him.

    Oilers can’t afford to pay more than $6 million for a guy that only produces on the PP and is average everywhere else.

  69. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Markstrom needs to be run yet

  70. oilersfan says:

    They kick the puck in

    Call a marginal too many men

    Then proceed to allow the Canucks to dry hump McDavid all over the ice

    Sounds about right

    Draisaitl to blame for both goals against , albeit one was kicked in.

    McDavid was the too many men

    Our best players have to be our best players and they haven’t been lately

  71. Bling says:

    How convenient that they miss the high stick on Nurse.

  72. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Bank Shot: That was all Nuge. Just terrible. Hopefully they can find a plus two way guy that can PK to replace him.

    Oilers can’t afford to pay more than $6 million for a guy that only produces on the PP and is average everywhere else.

    Not sure I’ve seen him pit in such a shitty effort on that shift. Was like it was a 5 on 3

  73. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    oilersfan:
    They kick the puck in

    Call a marginal too many men

    Then proceed to allow the Canucks to dry hump McDavid all over the ice

    Sounds about right

    Draisaitl to blame for both goals against , albeit one was kicked in.

    McDavid was the too many men

    Our best players have to be our best players and they haven’t been lately

    It’s the fix man…
    THE FIX!!!

  74. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Bling:
    How convenient that they miss the high stick on Nurse.

    So convenient! The refs are in Bettmans pocketbook man!!!

  75. hags9k says:

    The NHL makes sure the games are reffed in “arcade mode”.

    Frustrating when Nurse gets close-lined coming into the zone but oh wait, it wasn’t our turn for a PP. Phantom too many men?? Hmm only 8 mins left, you’ll have to do! TWEEET!

  76. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    This is where Oiler fans are at? It’s the refs?

    This team hasn’t won 2 in a in over a month.

    They have been outplayed tonight simple as that.

  77. Sierra says:

    Needed a goal from Nuge there.

  78. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Nice shot to the Crest by Nuge

  79. Professor Q says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    This is where Oiler fans are at? It’s the refs?

    This team hasn’t won 2 in a in over a month.

    They have been outplayed tonight simple as that.

    You obviously haven’t watched the game tonight, then.

  80. Sierra says:

    FFS Nurse and Bear. They deserved to be scored on there. That was fooken brutal.

  81. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Bank Shot: That was all Nuge. Just terrible. Hopefully they can find a plus two way guy that can PK to replace him.

    Oilers can’t afford to pay more than $6 million for a guy that only produces on the PP and is average everywhere else.

    So what is the going rate for a PP witch?

  82. hags9k says:

    Réal Goudenyéu,

    You are right. But the refs can still fuck off.

  83. Johnny skid says:

    oilersfan: Then proceed to allow the Canucks to dry hump McDavid all over the ice

    every team in the league is allowed to do this.

  84. tapper says:

    Ahh I see, the too-many-men had a dash of F-U Connor courtesy NHL officials as he was the one who jumped on the ice. You can almost feel their glee in finding ways to call him. They’re so infantile.

  85. Rondo says:

    Not a good night for Leon.

  86. Bank Shot says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan: So what is the going rate for a PP witch?

    I dunno, but it’s sort of the last thing this team needs with McDavid and Draisaitl.

    It’s diminishing returns.

    We need an even strength warlock.

  87. Professor Q says:

    John Chambers:
    The Canucks broadcast, which includes John Garrett, unanimously agreed Horvat had kicked it in.

    How could anyone judge it otherwise?

    Yep. I love Bo, but that was clearly a redirect and sweep of the leg to kick the puck in. He had no choice but to do so, and was celebrating before it went in.

    How the refs and officials reviewing it decided against it is beyond me. These refs absolutely suck.

  88. Gerta Rauss says:

    Hart trophy finalist Loui Eriksson with the empty netter

  89. Bling says:

    Deserved a better fate. Atrocious refereeing.

  90. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Johnny skid: every team in the league is allowed to do this.

    Yep. It’s rule 97-f-u-oil. all infractions against McDavid that would be called against literally any other player not on the oilers, shall be deemed “to quick to judge as an infraction”

  91. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Best players not best players. Time to get away from the rink

  92. Sierra says:

    since the goalie was pulled the Oilers have one shot on net. Rarely got the puck into the OZone, let alone had it under control brutal. This team is not good.

  93. Sierra says:

    Bling:
    Deserved a better fate.

    Not with how they played in the 3rd period

  94. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Bank Shot: I dunno, but it’s sort of the last thing this team needs with McDavid and Draisaitl.

    It’s diminishing returns.

    We need an even strength warlock.

    Agreed

  95. hags9k says:

    Merry Christmas Oiler fans. Lots of draft coverage under the tree to unwrap.

  96. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Professor Q: You obviously haven’t watched the game tonight, then.

    Professor Q: You obviously haven’t watched the game tonight, then.

    There wasn’t an ounce of give a shit on any of the zone entries with the goalie pulled – no second chances just a shot on net and it’s out.

    The Canucks also hit two posts the Oilers are lucky it wasn’t a 6-2 game.

    But no let’s blame the refs.

  97. teddyturnbuckle says:

    That’s about all folks. If I was a betting man I’d say thats the end of our playoff spot for the season. Oilers are in free fall mode.

  98. oilersfan says:

    Draisaitl is like minus 15 the last 6 weeks or so

    For a guy who said he wanted to win the selke to start the year and looked the part he has really let his defensive game fall apart

    How many games in the last 10 has the other teams’ checking line out scored the two top player in the league 5×5? I think maybe 7

  99. digger50 says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    There wasn’t an ounce of give a shit on any of the zone entries with the goalie pulled – no second chances just a shot on net and it’s out.

    The Canucks also hit two posts the Oilers are lucky it wasn’t a 6-2 game.

    But no let’s blame the refs.

    Refs gave them that game in my opinion

  100. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    It will be worth it if Tippett gives the refs hell in the after game presser. Hopefully The “kicked in goal” will now become infamous on sports networks as an embarrassment of the league, and Bettman will be forced to address it along with the shitastic reffing that has been going on. At least, that is the hope.
    Not a single other sport has this degree of reffing issues.

  101. Professor Q says:

    Crazy Pedestrian,

    Unfortunately, as we are used to, none of this will happen.

    Even when they promised to look into the holding of McDavid, when Edmonton was in the playoffs, those calls only lasted a month in the following season before tapering off.

  102. Scungilli Slushy says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Nice shot to the Crest by Nuge

    The baby man has no art to his offensive game. That look off was worse than what I would try. No wonder he can’t score enough.

    He also can’t raise the puck over 18 inches healthy or not. Given all goalies play the bottom half of the net, one notices the snipers can hit the open top half. And the really good guys have ‘practiced’ release points that are unexpected.

  103. verdad2.0 says:

    The team is a disgrace
    Holland is an idiot, incompetent
    Fire him

  104. gogliano says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    There wasn’t an ounce of give a shit on any of the zone entries with the goalie pulled – no second chances just a shot on net and it’s out.

    The Canucks also hit two posts the Oilers are lucky it wasn’t a 6-2 game.

    But no let’s blame the refs.

    Hey guys the team has some blame ergo refs cannot have any blame, it’s basic logic!

  105. SK Oiler Fan says:

    oilersfan:
    Draisaitl is like minus 15 the last 6 weeks or so

    For a guy who said he wanted to win the selke to start the year and looked the part he has really let his defensive game fall apart

    How many games in the last 10 has the other teams’ checking line out scored the two top player in the league 5×5? I think maybe 7

    Not sure how they could be tired yet they look tired. They had like 4 shifts in the 3rd before the last 2 min. Battle level real low

  106. Harpers Hair says:

    If the Oilers ever make the playoffs…this is exactly how to beat them

    Neutralize McDavid and Draisaitl and beat them up with depth.

  107. verdad2.0 says:

    Fire Holland tonight

  108. Scungilli Slushy says:

    oilersfan:
    Draisaitl is like minus 15 the last 6 weeks or so

    For a guy who said he wanted to win the selke to start the year and looked the part he has really let his defensive game fall apart

    How many games in the last 10 has the other teams’ checking line out scored the two top player in the league 5×5? I think maybe 7

    The both of them are forcing plays to the point now that almost nothing is working.

    They need some chill back in their game. More sneaky.

  109. Dicky94 says:

    oilersfan,

    I’ve noticed that he holds onto the puck too long now and loses puck battles because of it. Needs to make quicker passes.

  110. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    verdad2.0:
    The team is a disgrace
    Holland is an idiot,incompetent
    Fire him

    I was wondering when you might show up.

  111. Harpers Hair says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    This is where Oiler fans are at? It’s the refs?

    This team hasn’t won 2 in a in over a month.

    They have been outplayed tonight simple as that.

    This.

  112. texmex says:

    In 13 games in December, the oilers scored 3 or more goals four times!!!!

    Blame the refs. Blame whoever. This team is just not good enough.

    We knew it in October but a hot start to the season blew our expectations out of whack.

    I predicted 82 points, and I’m sticking with it

  113. Johnny skid says:

    verdad2.0:
    Fire Holland tonight

    could we start with ref’s first.

  114. London Jon says:

    theDjdj: He literally moves his foot forward to guide the puck into the goal. That is just an absolutely woeful decision. The NHL’s inability to adequately referee their games is genuinely frustrating as a fan

    Every Canucks fan around me thought it was kicked in. Cue unbridled joy when the refs once again decide to uphold their shit decision

  115. digger50 says:

    John Chambers:
    The Canucks broadcast, which includes John Garrett, unanimously agreed Horvat had kicked it in.

    How could anyone judge it otherwise?

    The Oiler broadcast are such wimps

    He caught an edge (he was blatantly tripped)

    The too many men was close ( it was ridiculous)

    I think I seen a kicking motion (it was obvious to all)

    The Boston broadcast against Washington, these guys feared nothing. They literally trashed the refs all game. Every scrum or hit was Washington with another cheap shit. Amazing difference.

  116. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Harpers Hair:
    If the Oilers ever make the playoffs…this is exactly how to beat them

    Neutralize McDavid and Draisaitl and beat them up with depth.

    Which is precisely why they eventually need to be split up if the team is ever going to be successful.

  117. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Harpers Hair:
    If the Oilers ever make the playoffs…this is exactly how to beat them

    Neutralize McDavid and Draisaitl and beat them up with depth.

    I’m not sure I’ve ever read something like that before.

    If I get it, you mean neutralize the other team’s best players, and then outscore the others as well? Is that right?

  118. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Fk me that PK shift by Nuge was Alarming. Those are shifts that push GMs to pulling triggers

  119. hags9k says:

    The refs always suck. It’s like there’s an invisible possession arrow depending on the last call and/or the game score.

    But that is not to say the Oilers aren’t a bad team again. They are bad, and getting worse. We haven’t even gotten to the part where the cracks in the confidence appear and the effort drops. Yikes!

    I give them credit for the work ethic this year but the recipe for wins is still 97-29 and red hot goalie. They’ve just got nuthin else goin on.

  120. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    digger50: Refs gave them that game in my opinion

    Yup. Even HH has to be a little embarrassed to have the refs overlook a blatant no-goal for them.

  121. Harpers Hair says:

    Scungilli Slushy: I’m not sure I’ve ever read something like that before.

    If I get it, you mean neutralize the other team’s best players, and then outscore the others as well? Is that right?

    No.

    The Oilers have only one line.

    Many teams actually have three or four.

  122. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Scungilli Slushy: I’m not sure I’ve ever read something like that before.

    If I get it, you mean neutralize the other team’s best players, and then outscore the others as well? Is that right?

    If all you have to do is neutralize one line, the game plan becomes pretty clear and very achievable.

  123. digger50 says:

    Harpers Hair:
    If the Oilers ever make the playoffs…this is exactly how to beat them

    Neutralize McDavid and Draisaitl and beat them up with depth.

    Fuck off Harper, I’ve had enough of you

  124. Harpers Hair says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: Yup. Even HH has to be a little embarrassed to have the refs overlook a blatant no-goal for them.

    But it wasn’t.

    There was no distinct kicking motion.

    It is quite allowable to turn your skate to deflect the puck.

    The on ice officials and the command centre both agreed it was a good goal.

    Stop whining.

  125. Harpers Hair says:

    digger50: Fuck off Harper, I’ve had enough of you

    You seem like a nice person.

  126. London Jon says:

    Just about to watch the highlights.

    The Canucks goal was clearly kicked in as per the big screen highlights.

    We were sat behind the oilers bench for the McDavid too many men line change. Could be wrong but absolutely did not look like too many men – Connor has just put a foot down when the weather puck came past him. If that’s TMM so are 5 other line changes a game

  127. digger50 says:

    Scungilli Slushy: The baby man has no art to his offensive game. That look off was worse than what I would try. No wonder he can’t score enough.

    He also can’t raise the puck over 18 inches healthy or not. Given all goalies play the bottom half of the net, one notices the snipers can hit the open top half. And the really good guys have ‘practiced’ release points that are unexpected.

    Wrist surgery

  128. Harpers Hair says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan: If all you have to do is neutralize one line, the game plan becomes prettyclearand very achievable.

    Exactly.

    The Canucks played it perfectly.

  129. digger50 says:

    Harpers Hair: But it wasn’t.

    There was no distinct kicking motion.

    It is quite allowable to turn your skate to deflect the puck.

    The on ice officials and the command centre both agreed it was a good goal.

    Stop whining.

    Get off the blog Harper

  130. Johnny skid says:

    Harpers Hair: You seem like a nice person.

    you say this a lot.

  131. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Harpers Hair: Exactly.

    The Canucks played it perfectly.

    It’s why Crosby and Malkin don’t play on the same line? Why is this so hard to figure out?

  132. Harpers Hair says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan: It’s why Crosby and Malkin don’t play on the same line? Why is this so hard to figure out?

    Yes.

  133. Sierra says:

    Scungilli Slushy: I’ll chime in here.

    Most players will get points with the world’s best player. The question is what are they able to do to help him?

    That is what matters. He shouldn’t be carrying players in an ideal world.

    So, have any helped other than Drai?

  134. London Jon says:

    The puck drops down, and lands, before Horvat clearly and deliberately moves his skate towards the puck to kick/push it in.

    He has very deliberately kicked the puck in and the refs and the league should be embarrassed that they reviewed that and let the goal stand.

    If the ref had called that no goal on they ice they would also have absolutely upheld it. They never want to change their decisions because they hate the video review.

    Worst quality officials in pro sports

  135. tapper says:

    Harpers Hair,

    How said is your life that you spend years, years making selective appearances with selective arguments, circular and ad hominem, on a hockey blog for not even your own team just to try to wind ppl up? Like, I am an oilers fan and barely spend time on an oilers blog. And can’t imagine trying to find a flames blog. And then joining it. And then posting on it. You’re either really sad or really miserable or some combination of the two.

  136. who says:

    The reffing was bad. But they missed calls both ways. Don’t see how you blame this loss on the refs.
    You could point your finger at Drai. It was his man who scored the first 2 goals.
    Or you could blame McDavid. He was in the penalty box for the game winner. Looked like a penalty to me. He interfered with the Canuck forward before Haas got to the bench.
    It’s Christmas. So I am going to focus on the pleasant surprises in the 1st half of the year. If we accept the premise that McDavid, Draisaitl, Nuge, Kassian, Klefbom, Larrson, Nurse and Russell are playing at expected levels, is there an Oiler that has really delivered below this blogs expectations?
    I see Koskinen, Bear, Haas, and lately Jones as delivering above expected levels.
    What are your thoughts?

  137. JimmyV1965 says:

    Scungilli Slushy: The both of them are forcing plays to the point now that almost nothing is working.

    They need some chill back in their game. More sneaky.

    I suspect they feel they have to carry the team on their shoulders. Lots of pressure. Then they start to force plays.

  138. franksterra says:

    Scungilli Slushy,

    It’s ok, its heady stuff. Don’t blame yourself, we all have a lot of catching up to do.

  139. Reja says:

    who:
    The reffing was bad. But they missed calls both ways. Don’t see how you blame this loss on the refs.
    You could point your finger at Drai. It was his man who scored the first 2 goals.
    Or you could blame McDavid. He was in the penalty box for the game winner. Looked like a penalty to me. He interfered with the Canuck forward before Haas got to the bench.
    It’s Christmas. So I am going to focus on the pleasant surprises in the 1st half of the year. If we accept the premise that McDavid,Draisaitl,Nuge, Kassian, Klefbom, Larrson,Nurse and Russell are playing at expected levels,is there an Oiler that has really delivered below this blogs expectations?
    I see Koskinen, Bear, Haas, and lately Jones as delivering above expected levels.
    What are your thoughts?

    You and Harper should get a room.

  140. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Harpers Hair: But it wasn’t.

    There was no distinct kicking motion.

    It is quite allowable to turn your skate to deflect the puck.

    The on ice officials and the command centre both agreed it was a good goal.

    Stop whining.

    No it’s not! Turning your skate is called “kicking”. If the skate was knocking the puck in when the player is skating by or attempting to stop, that is a deflection. Intentionally turning your skate towards the net just as the puck hits it is “kicking”

    Sure the oilers didn’t play a great game, and the nucks May have still somehow won the game, but it was still 2-1 oilers before that mistaken goal and the oilers were keeping the game close.

  141. who says:

    Reja: You and Harper should get a room.

    Huh?
    I think you need to take a deep breath. And relax.

  142. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    London Jon:
    Just about to watch the highlights.

    The Canucks goal was clearly kicked in as per the big screen highlights.

    We were sat behind the oilers bench for the McDavid too many men line change. Could be wrong but absolutely did not look like too many men – Connor has just put a foot down when the weather puck came past him. If that’s TMM so are 5 other line changes a game

    Game management to the fullest. Calling phantom calls to even out other calls is the NHL’s MO. Especially against the Oilers. Bettman hates them the most.

  143. Professor Q says:

    Did anyone address the reffing in the post-game interviews?

  144. who says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: No it’s not! Turning your skate is called “kicking”. If the skate was knocking the puck in when the player is skating by or attempting to stop, that is a deflection. Intentionally turning your skate towards the net just as the puck hits it is “kicking”

    Sure the oilers didn’t play a great game, and the nucks May have still somehow won the game, but it was still 2-1 oilers before that mistaken goal and the oilers were keeping the game close.

    Actually, if you just turn your skate, I don’t think it’s considered a kicking motion. He may have kicked at it, but it’s hard to tell.

  145. JimmyV1965 says:

    I watch a lot of hockey. The reffing sucks across the league. Good teams overcome it.

  146. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    who: Actually, if you just turn your skate, I don’t think it’s considered a kicking motion. He may have kicked at it, but it’s hard to tell.

    Meant to say “turning your skate towards the net”. And I’m no expert in skating, but it definitely looks like he stretched his foot out to kick that puck. The way he was stopping was not natural at all. Besides, he didn’t even try to use his stick there at all.

    Whatever. The reffing in hockey in general is atrocious. They don’t call the game as intended, but instead manage it. They’re basically handicapping the game so the less skilled players have a chance. And when they screw up or miss something (because even when calling by the book, not everything will be caught due to human error), they call phantom calls to make up for their mistakes, which gives the league a bad rep due to calls being made on standard hockey plays that are almost never called.

    It infuriates the fans, the players, and gives the whole game experience a bad vibe.
    And this somehow gets worse in the playoffs where they let lesser skilled players get away with even more infractions and manage the game in the name of “balance”.

  147. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    who:
    The reffing was bad. But they missed calls both ways. Don’t see how you blame this loss on the refs.
    You could point your finger at Drai. It was his man who scored the first 2 goals.
    Or you could blame McDavid. He was in the penalty box for the game winner. Looked like a penalty to me. He interfered with the Canuck forward before Haas got to the bench.
    It’s Christmas. So I am going to focus on the pleasant surprises in the 1st half of the year. If we accept the premise that McDavid,Draisaitl,Nuge, Kassian, Klefbom, Larrson,Nurse and Russell are playing at expected levels,is there an Oiler that has really delivered below this blogs expectations?
    I see Koskinen, Bear, Haas, and lately Jones as delivering above expected levels.
    What are your thoughts?

    I generally agree with your player expectation assessments with some minor comments and one major comment.
    Nuge has performed below my expectations, Haas is now beginning to play as I had hoped (not knowing what he was all about really to start the year).

    Draisaitl’s year has been Jekyll and Hyde. The first ~ 4 weeks were excellent – one of the best players in the league – complete game, possible Selke talk justifiable. So strong on the puck. Then something happened. Now he is a massive defensive liability for several weeks straight. Making very poor decisions with the puck, losing defensive coverage almost every shift and “lazy” play – big loops; not stops and starts. Sure he is still getting points, but he is a very offensively talented player playing next to McD, so, I suspect that aspect of his game will continue. But for long-term Oilers success one would have to think he needs to be 2C at some point. Drive a line by himself. But his numbers in that role are very poor too.
    People will argue he has been played too much and is tired, and that can explain part of it, but I don’t think it is the full explanation. I think a lot of it is mental, not physical. That to me is a massive concern.
    Hopefully he turns things around after the “break”.

  148. CallighenMan says:

    Harpers Hair: But it wasn’t.

    There was no distinct kicking motion.

    It is quite allowable to turn your skate to deflect the puck.

    The on ice officials and the command centre both agreed it was a good goal.

    Stop whining.

    Bull$hit

  149. CallighenMan says:

    Harpers Hair: But it wasn’t.

    There was no distinct kicking motion.

    It is quite allowable to turn your skate to deflect the puck.

    The on ice officials and the command centre both agreed it was a good goal.

    Stop whining.

    Bull$hit

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