Legend

Last night’s game is the stuff of legends, real Paul Bunyan stuff. Leon Draisaitl’s after practice yesterday verbal talked about checking close and being precise on defensive details. 2-1 final, exhausted post-game.

The big man then proceeded to go out and post three assists and an EN goal to help the Oilers to an impressive win. Kailer Yamamoto, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Mike Smith also had starring roles in one of the most exhilarating wins of the season. A day that began with shocking news about Connor McDavid ended with two points and a win.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Lowetide: Why Connor McDavid’s injury is unlikely to alter Ken Holland’s trade deadline plan for the Oilers
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘We want to take it as a challenge’: Oilers survive first game without McDavid as room for improvement remains
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Trying to make sense of Connor McDavid’s injury and Darnell Nurse’s new contract with Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: Faced with uncertainty, Oilers hedge their bet on Darnell Nurse
  • Lowetide: Oilers sign Darnell Nurse
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers Observations: A Connor McDavid scare, Leon Draisaitl’s back, boosting the top line and helping Zack Kassian
  • Lowetide: The Oilers trading their first-round pick is a bad idea
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: After a ‘long road’ to the NHL, Tyler Benson’s Oilers debut holds extra meaning
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Emotionless’ Oilers fail yet again to match passion from a week ago
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: 15 potential trade targets for the Oilers before the 2020 deadline
  • Lowetide: Drilling down on right-handed centres for the Oilers to target before the trade deadline
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers trade suggestions: 50 proposals from readers, with our verdict
  • Lowetide: If fast is the new big, the Oilers are trending in a very good direction
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘I got a text from Wayne Gretzky that I’ve still got saved’: 8 years later, Sam Gagner reflects on his 8-point night.
  • Lowetide: What’s next for Tyler Benson and William Lagesson after being called up by the Oilers?
  • Lowetide: Why the Oilers are more likely to trade Adam Larsson than Kris Russell
  • Lowetide: Oilers prospects Evan Bouchard and Tyler Benson deliver best minor league performances in 20 years
  • Jonathan Willis: An updated list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20
  • Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto gives Oilers a midseason spark, one of the best in team history
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers’ road forward — and perhaps to a Stanley Cup — requires trusting the kids on defence

OILERS AFTER 56 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 22-29-5, 49 points; goal differential -27
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 29-19-8, 66 points; goal differential +7
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 23-29-4, 50 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 24-27-5, 53 points; goal differential -21
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 30-20-6, 66 points; goal differential +4

The numbers don’t lie, this is just the second Oilers team in the 97 era to grab 66 points from the first 56 games of a season. The first team in the cluster to 30 wins. Positive goal differential for just the second time. Never thought this season would roll out in such a way.

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
  • Current 10 games: 4-2-0

Oilers seem destined to post another solid run on the tens. There’s a tough road trip ahead, but the final two games of the home stand set up the rest of the month well.

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 1-4-0, two points; goal differential -16
  • Oilers in February 2017: 2-3-0, four points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in February 2018: 1-3-1, three points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in February 2019: 1-2-2, four points; goal differential -7
  • Oilers in February 2020: 3-2-0, six points; goal differential +2

It isn’t a major hurdle, but this year’s group is having the best run to Valentine’s compared to the previous four teams. Notice the handsome goal differential relative to the past.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: CAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: SJS, NAS, CHI (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: TBY, FLA, CAR (Expected 1-1-1)
  • At home to: BOS, MIN (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: LAK, ANA, VEG (Expected 2-1-0)
  • At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 3-2-0, six points in five games

The next four games are absolute killers, and the Wild usually make the Oilers and fans numb, too. Some tough matchups ahead. Those tough games seem to bring out the best in this team.

OILERS 2019-20

The top line had a massive night, Mike Smith was outstanding and the team tightened up defensively after a Fillmore East first 25 minutes. All numbers five on five unless noted, and all via NST.

LINE 1 Nuge-Leon Draisaitl-Kailer Yamamoto played 13:45, going 14-13 Corsi, 10-8 shots, 1-1 goals and 1-2 HDSC. Not certain this line stays together on the road but keeping them together was a key to victory.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins had an assist (plus a power-play goal) along with three shots, GV, TK and some great decisions at both ends of the ice. Leon Draisaitl had an EN goal, an assist, two power-play assists, one shot, won 10 of 17 on the dot. He’s Paul Bunyan. Kailer Yamamoto had a goal (plus a PP marker), three shots, one HDSC, one giveaway and two takeaways. This may one day be a famous line. Nuge is in a good spot.

LINE 2 Zack Kassian-Riley Sheahan-Josh Archibald played 11:16 together, 9-8 Corsi, 5-3 shots and 1-0 goals, 3-1 HDSC.

Zack Kassian had an assist, two HDSC, created some good looks. I thought he lost his man on the first goal (Saad beat him to the net) but seemed strong after. Riley Sheahan scored a goal, two shots, two penalties and won 9 of 19 in the dot. Josh Archibald had an assist, a takeaway and five hits. He worked hard and took some hits to make plays.

LINE 3 Jujhar Khaira-Colby Cave-Patrick Russell played 7:57, going 3-5 Corsi, 2-3 shots, no goals and no HDSC. It was the nothing happened line and that’s a good thing.

Jujhar Khaira had a shot on net, a giveaway, and 2:19 successful on the PK. Colby Cave had a shot, a takeaway and won four of six in the dot. Patrick Russell had a takeaway and won some battles along the wall.

LINE 4 Sam Gagner-Gaetan Haas-Alex Chiasson played 7:27, going 5-10 Corsi, 4-7 shots, no goals and 0-1 HDSC. Far higher event than the Cave line in about the same minutes.

Sam Gagner had two shots on goal and had 54 seconds on the power play. Gaetan Haas drew a penalty and won two of five faceoffs. Alex Chiasson had a shot on goal and a PP assist.

PAIRING ONE Darnell Nurse and Ethan Bear played 17:04 together, going 19-12 Corsi, 12-9 shots, 0-1 goals, 1-3 HDSC.

Darnell Nurse had three shots on goal, played a little on the PP and skated miles. It was his shot that was tipped then turned over in the opposition zone, and was the genesis of the play that would result in the 1-0 goal. Pairing handled it well, needed the trailing forward to cover Brandon Saad. Played 8:48 against Patrick Kane (10-7 Corsi and 0-1 goals. Ethan Bear had one shot and three giveaways on the night, made lots of good plays and solid outlet passes. Bear played Kane well on the first goal against.

PAIRING TWO Oscar Klefbom and Adam Larsson played 17:16, going 11-19 Corsi, 8-9 shots, 2-0 goals and 3-0 HDSC.

Oscar Klefbom took a penalty, played a strong physical game and kept the puck heading in a good direction. Made good decisions all over the ice. Adam Larsson had two shots, a giveaway, and at least a couple of sorties into the offensive zone.

PAIRING THREE Caleb Jones and Matt Benning played 9:01 together, going 3-4 Corsi, 1-3 shots, no goals and 0-1 HDSC. Benning was paired with Klefbom on the GA, he didn’t play the two-on-one well.

Caleb Jones had a takeaway and played a relatively quiet game, third pair playing just 21 percent of the five on five minutes. Benning didn’t play the pass on the two on one, will say that was a perfect pass from Patrick Kane. Had one shot on goal, GV, TK.

GOALIE Mike Smith stopped 38 of 41, .938. Stopped all five HDSC. Since January 1, he is 8-0-2, has a .917 save percentage and a goals against average of 2.67. That’s fantastic stuff, and exactly what Catherine Silverman told me back on July 1 about him. He can carry a team for long stretches. The second GA featured keystone cops PP entry for Edmonton and then a jailbreak two-on-one with Nuge defending, Toews got all of it and Smith almost stopped that one, too.

THE RECALL

I expect it’ll be Tyler Benson and that he’ll get a longer look on the road trip, but we’ll have to wait and see. Should hear this morning.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy morning, TSN1260, but it should go as planned unless Ken Holland has another media avail. Bruce McCurdy from the Cult of Hockey at the Edmonton Journal will put last night’s game in perspective (suspect we’ll be hearing about Pat Hughes), and Joe Osborne from OddsShark will talk MLB odds (are the LA Dodgers a favourite after the big trade?) and NHL (are the Oilers are road bet worth making this week?). 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    They mentioned a call-up to be made yesterday afternoon that would meet them in Florida but it never came.

    My guess is they are waiting on an assessment of Granlund’s health. He missed last game with injury (undisclosed to my knowledge) but yesterday Woody did say he may be available for tonight’s game.

    If he’s ready to go, I think he’s the call-up.

    • dustrock says:

      I agree completely. Tippett is risk-averse, it’s a C that’s hurt, and they’re on a tough road trip. Bring in a veteran who at least knows the drill.

      I would prefer Benson but I get the logic here.

      • Doug McLachlan says:

        Benson it is!

        He’s super creative with the puck but doesn’t have the wheels.

        Do you swap him out for Gagner from last night’s line and run:

        Benson-Haas-Chaisson?

  2. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    WC standings using points percentage shown at points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    COL 17
    STL 17
    DAL 13

    Cause-if
    EDM 10
    VAN 10
    CGY 7

    Wildcard
    VGP 6
    WPG 5

    Out of playoffs
    AIR 5
    MIN 4
    NSH 4
    CHI 2
    ANA -3
    SJS -4
    LAK -14

    -tie breaks due to gp
    -COL takes the conference lead. Shitty about Jbo, hope he recovers. Man.

    Relevant games tonight:

    CGY (-130) at LAK (+110) – Need Flattop to do his old team a favour tonight.

    CHI (+130) at VAN (-150) – CHI played their asses off last night. Wonder how much they’ll have tonight?

  3. meanashell11 says:

    I really liked that second line last night.

  4. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    EC standings using points percentage shown at points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Atlantic
    BOS 23
    TBY 22
    TOR 11

    Metropolitan
    WSH 21
    PIT 19
    NYI 17

    Wildcard
    CBJ 13
    PHI 12

    Out of playoffs
    CAR 11
    FLA 10
    NYR 5
    MTL 3
    BUF 1
    NJD -5
    OTT -9
    DET -26

    -TOR needed a 3rd period goal and OT to beat ARI. They’re not that good.

    Relevant wildcard games tonight: None

  5. Caribbeerman says:

    Too bad that Cooper Marody has not been 100% as this could have been the perfect opportunity for him with CMD out and the “DRY” line staying together. I would imagine Granlund would get the call.

  6. Paulie says:

    In his CoH game summary, Leavins says Oscar is apparently playing hurt. Does anyone have info on this?

  7. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    Paulie:
    In his CoH game summary, Leavins says Oscar is apparently playing hurt. Does anyone have info on this?

    I find it’s usually best practice to simply assume Klefbom is hurt because he always is in some way or another.

  8. dustrock says:

    LT, I get the road trip has different considerations for matchups, but I’m not sure you could split up the Drai line until you’ve had several games in a row where it clearly isn’t working.

    Right now, they’re white hot and teams haven’t figured them out yet.

    Yamamoto is playing like a 5’8″ Ryan Smyth out there, greasy goals. I’m not convinced long term that he doesn’t start to get boxed out more, but his ability to find open space near the blue paint sure seems high-level if not elite.

    • Doug McLachlan says:

      Man do I love Yamamoto’s game.

      Best description I’ve heard is that he’s an angry hornet inside your car.

      That second goal where he just steals the puck out from Lehner’s pad was beautiful. Not hacking and slashing, just calm hands – like a surgeon.

  9. Reja says:

    Last night was the biggest win in almost 3 years. If they can gut out 3 points on this road trip this will magically heal Connor’s leg and he’ll be good to go against the big bad Bruins.

  10. Reja says:

    dustrock:
    LT, I get the road trip has different considerations for matchups, but I’m not sure you could split up the Drai line until you’ve had several games in a row where it clearly isn’t working.

    Right now, they’re white hot and teams haven’t figured them out yet.

    Yamamoto is playing like a 5’8″ Ryan Smyth out there, greasy goals.I’m not convinced long term that he doesn’t start to get boxed out more, but his ability to find open space near the blue paint sure seems high-level if not elite.

    It usually takes one or two go arounds against a team before they figure out some players. It sure looks like Yamo is going to ride the wave for the remainder of the season.

  11. OriginalPouzar says:

    Paulie:
    In his CoH game summary, Leavins says Oscar is apparently playing hurt. Does anyone have info on this?

    I think he’s been dealing with foot/toe issues most of the season – lots of maintenance days but he’s been a trooper and hasn’t missed a game.

    He could very well be dealing with other bumps/bruises as well given the time of year.

  12. dustrock says:

    Reja:
    Last night was the biggest win in almost 3 years. If they can gut out 3 points on this road trip this will magically heal Connor’s leg and he’llbegood to go against the big bad Bruins.

    Tampa will be tough and Rask hasn’t lost at home since April 2019, if they play Rask.

    They will have a shot against Florida because Bob and Caroline is always a toss-up. If they can win those 2 games that is a hugely successful road trip, with or without McDavid.

  13. fries n gravy says:

    Paulie,

    I asked the Oilers scout the other night and he didn’t say yes or no, just ignored the question and talked about something else. I probably didn’t frame the question well, my bad. Totally inconclusive.

  14. Nit64 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: WC standings using points percentage shown at points over/under fake Bettman .500

    -tie breaks due to gp

    Hi WG, Pts % alone will break ties for playoff position in favour of fewer GP. So you don’t need a separate tiebreak if you run with “WC standings sorted by points% showing points over/under fake Bettman .500”.

    Note: there are rare scenarios where for clarity you’d show the pts% next to the over/under. But the classic example from MLB involved 2 teams above .667 and 6 games in hand.
    https://twitter.com/CBSSportsMLB/status/1007328235464613888

    When this occurs (usually in the first few weeks) it’s cool to see both. That MLB scenario sorted by PCT showing GAMES above .500 would be:

    NYY +11.5 (.684)
    BOS +12.5 (.681)
    TB -1.5
    TOR -4
    BAL -14.5

  15. Coiler says:

    Well done to the team. Leon was in beast mode last night. The fact that he was able to get 4 points against Chicago’s best defensive pairings speaks to his elite level. Well done to the big German.

    Like many of you noted in yesterday’s blog comments, Nuge stepped it up bigtime. Hopefully this will continue.

  16. giddy says:

    Last season when McDavid lost a few games, Drai went supernova. Appears to be the same thing here. Kid has big shoulders.

    It really is like when Crosby is hurt on the Pens, Malkin turns it up to 11–like when Crosby only played 22 games, Malkin had 109 pts in 75 games.

  17. Oilin4 says:

    Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual: I find it’s usually best practice to simply assume Klefbom is hurt because he always is in some way or another.

    Imagine half the players are playing hurt at this point in the season

  18. JJS says:

    Man oh man, this team

    We live and die on the backs of our goalie and our studs

    Same as it has been for a decade…

    Great to see Nuge finding the success that has been visible just beneath the surface since his rookie year. Line-mates matter. Who knew?

  19. godot10 says:

    // I thought he lost his man on the first goal.//

    It is a matter of fact that “he” lost his man on the first goal, not a matter of opinion. “He” is getting as regular as the Sun rising in the East in being responsible for the first goal against in the game.

    A weak, weak, weak effort on that play.

  20. Woogie63 says:

    Dear Mr. Lehto

    Your advice sucks.

    JP

  21. OriginalPouzar says:

    Interesting note from Staples listening to the CoH post-game podcast, we know Leon’s production in the 15 games since Kailer’s recall, however, in those 15 games, Nuge is 6th in the NHL in scoring.

    Remember the struggles Nuge started the season with?

    He’s playing the best hockey of his career now (and I think it pre-dated the current Nuge/Leon/Kailer line).

    He said he wanted consistent linemates he could form chemistry with. Well…..

  22. godot10 says:

    dustrock:
    LT, I get the road trip has different considerations for matchups, but I’m not sure you could split up the Drai line until you’ve had several games in a row where it clearly isn’t working.

    Right now, they’re white hot and teams haven’t figured them out yet.

    Yamamoto is playing like a 5’8″ Ryan Smyth out there, greasy goals.I’m not convinced long term that he doesn’t start to get boxed out more, but his ability to find open space near the blue paint sure seems high-level if not elite.

    Keep playing the Draisaitl line togetther until they start stopping them.

    We have seen this movie before with Malkin and Kopitar. It is our turn.

  23. Reja says:

    godot10: Keep playing the Draisaitl line togetther until they start stopping them.

    We have seen this movie before with Malkin and Kopitar.It is our turn.

    You can only ride Leon hard for so long. Its Holland’s job to get some fricking help in the middle and no he doesn’t have to sell the farm to acquire a 3C that can briefly play 2C in a pitch.

    • Material Elvis says:

      Sounds like you are describing Pageau. Do you think Pierre Dorion is going to help out the Oilers because of the kindness of his heart? Any 3C/2C guy will cost a premium at this point.

  24. John Chambers says:

    If the Oilers weather the storm over the next two weeks maybe the NHL media will start to acknowledge Draisaitl as a Hart candidate.

    The odds on him winning the Art Ross are probably pretty good. He’ll just have to polish up that -11 before the end of game 82.

  25. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Dom Luszczyszyn has EDM going 12-11-3 to round out the season in his model for 93P which *should* be enough to make the playoffs.

    This team’s not making any noise, would be nice to get wing help for 97 though. Palmieri?

    Dumping Russell/Neal imperative this summer.

    • Material Elvis says:

      Would love Kyle Palmieri on Connor’s wing. Take last night’s team and add McDavid and Palmieri…..cooking with gas.

      I’d dump both of those guys next year, too, especially Neal. Russell is a reasonable #7 if they can’t get rid of the contract without too much pain.

    • Profit says:

      Sportsclubstats has the Oilers at 89.9% to make it in.

      Similar assumption that a roughly .500 record through the end of the year should get them in with 92-93 pts.

  26. russ99 says:

    OriginalPouzar

    The problem with this idea on the road is that they’re going to line match our weaker lines to death, which LT alluded to.

    We need Nuge to center his own line to keep us in the game, we’re playing teams way better than the Hawks at hemming us in and generating good quality chances on the cycle.

    • TheGreatBigMac says:

      Yes but I still think you at least try to go with what’s been working before hitting blender. Maybe Leon and crew can power through!

      If/when it’s time to play will it blend I say we try:
      Archibald Drai Kassian
      Gagne Nuge Yam

  27. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Benson called up.

  28. Litke 94 says:

    Was watching SC with Jay and Dan last night, which included a bit on Tkachuk vs. Doughty.

    It got me thinking… LA is in the midst of a rebuild. Edmonton is moving towards win-now mode. Doughty likes McDavid… Hates Calgary. Seems to fit pretty well on the surface.

    If the path to trade for Drew Doughty made itself available – knowing the full extent of how much that may cost and the steps to do it – would you do it? He’s 30, signed at $7 million a year for another 5-6 years I believe.

    It would certainly require both Larsson and Russell shipped out before hand. And would likely require one of Bouchard or Broberg being sent back in the trade, on top of other things.

    Would this be a move worth exploring? Do you think Doughty will pull a Weber/Chara and play well into his mid to late 30s? Is it worth the cost of a top D prospect? Could it even be done with the cap? Would LA even be willing? What are Doughty’s underlying numbers like?

    At the very least it intrigues me.

  29. Material Elvis says:

    russ99:
    OriginalPouzar

    The problem with this idea on the road is that they’re going to line match our weaker lines to death, which LT alluded to.

    We need Nuge to center his own line to keep us in the game, we’re playing teams way better than the Hawks at hemming us in and generating good quality chances on the cycle.

    There’s no way I would mess with the chemistry of that line. They are killing it right now — ride the wave.

  30. John Chambers says:

    Litke 94,

    How about James Neal, Puljujarvi, Broberg and the 2020 1st for Doughty with $2M salary retained.

    • Litke 94 says:

      Now these are the types of proposals I am interested in seeing!

      With 2 million retained, that contract becomes a lot less risky, but I wonder if LA would balk at having to gain cap in the trade, due to Neal.

      • Scungilli Slushy says:

        A good GM finds gems that will be good players. Signing the memory of great players almost never works out.

        Kovalchuk is doing great, but at his age somebody could make a big mistake if they give him term.

        The Oilers have enough that stop gaps are what is needed, and some
        good drafting to keep it going.

        Clear cap space, make a deal for a top 6, a 3C, and perhaps a top 4 RD if Larsson is going.

  31. knighttown says:

    A few random notes;

    1. My kid is a underaged Bantam defensman hoping to play Major (AAA) next year and if there’s one skill I could teach him (that is teachable) it’s Ethan Bear’s footwork on puck retrieval. His turn radius is exception (small feet?) but he does this little thing where he points his toes left-right-left and the forechecker just gets air.

    2. I don’t think there’s any “figuring out” of Yamamoto. He has one exceptional talent and that’s his change of direction. The puck retrieval on the PP versus Keith; there might be 5% of NHL players that can get to that puck. He’s going left, sees the bounce and is going right in the blink of an eye.

    Are these two items related? When you add in Leon’s skating improvements is it time to start talking about David Pelletier?

    3. Darnell Nurse played a good game. But…BUT…the play you outline above is just so damn maddening. On that shift (or maybe the one previous) he fires a bomb of a slap shot off the pad…a real good play. I remember it because Louis complimented him on his “shooting mentality”
    Not 30 seconds later, the puck moves around and he takes the pass from Bear and floats a wrister in that never was going to be good and always had the chance to be bad. It gets blocked and they’re off to the races. And he does it all the time. He had another “rush” where he gained the line and sent a floater at the tender. If he’s too stupid to learn, that’s on him but is it possible no one is correcting this behaviour because “pucks on net = good play”?

    4. The script for Draisaitl’s Hart and Pearson wins has been written and now it’s up to him to publish it. Leon crawled out from under 97’s shadow, carried them for the 2-3 weeks when 97 was out, won the scoring race and dragged his team of misfits into the playoffs for the first time in years.

    5. Although some might view it to be more likely Holland goes and gets a rental forward now because of McDavid’s injury I think it’s just the opposite. The human body is not like a computer where it spits out 2-3 weeks recovery. In addition, that leg is one of the most important and monetarily valuable assets in the history of sports. His advisors and doctors are making this decision, full stop, and the Oilers are along for the ride. If they don’t like what they see they’ll park him. I don’t see the Oilers putting their chips in until they know they have both of their pocket Aces healthy and in the lineup.

  32. VanIsleOil says:

    Leon Draisaitl is Paul Bunyan…. pure gold LT.

    https://tinyurl.com/tcy56z7

    Man that Smith is hard on the ticker to watch. Every shot he is flipping, swimming, or falling forward. But credit to him, lately it has been enough.

  33. Litke 94 says:

    Litke 94:

    Do you think Doughty will pull a Weber/Chara and play well into his mid to late 30s?

    Wow, double strike-out. Just being reported that not only is Weber’s season likely over, but that his future is in question.

  34. godot10 says:

    John Chambers:
    Litke 94,

    How about James Neal, Puljujarvi, Broberg and the 2020 1st for Doughty with $2M salary retained.

    Why would you do that?

    The Oilers have Bear, and Bouchard in the pipeline. And Benning, Berglund, Persson, with Jones and Broberg as swing men.

    Alternatively, one can sign UFA Pieterangelo for similar money to Doughty and not spend the player assets.

    Plus Doughty and Pieterangelo are 30. Neither is likely to have the longevity of Nick Lidstrom.

  35. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    John Chambers:
    Litke 94,

    How about James Neal, Puljujarvi, Broberg and the 2020 1st for Doughty with $2M salary retained.

    I think we’d have to replace Puljujarvi with Larsson for cap purposes (and perhaps they’d prefer a proven D in return, too) and likely add a bit more, but I’d absolutely consider the possibility. Would love to have a guy of his talent and swagger on the backend.

    Elite Dmen seem to surprise with how they can reinvent or adjust their games as they age to remain effective well into their 30s. Weber seemed like he was in steep decline even 3 years ago, but has since turned it around a fair deal. Keith has lost a step but continues to thrive off his brain. There are no guarantees that Doughty will manage this, but he’s been elite long enough and made the necessary adaptations to be consistently good for long enough that I don’t think I’d be quick to Dough-t him.

  36. JimmyV1965 says:

    Reja: You can only ride Leon hard for so long. Its Holland’s job to get some fricking help in the middle and no he doesn’t have to sell the farm to acquire a 3C that can briefly play 2C in a pitch.

    Or you can always get wingers and play RNH at centre.

  37. OriginalPouzar says:

    Hmmm, Benson with the recall, not Granny, I’m a bit surprised.

  38. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    knighttown: 3. Darnell Nurse played a good game. But…BUT…the play you outline above is just so damn maddening. On that shift (or maybe the one previous) he fires a bomb of a slap shot off the pad…a real good play. I remember it because Louis complimented him on his “shooting mentality”
    Not 30 seconds later, the puck moves around and he takes the pass from Bear and floats a wrister in that never was going to be good and always had the chance to be bad. It gets blocked and they’re off to the races. And he does it all the time. He had another “rush” where he gained the line and sent a floater at the tender. If he’s too stupid to learn, that’s on him but is it possible no one is correcting this behaviour because “pucks on net = good play”?

    I was thinking about this too last night.
    If he could be taught better for completing the last 40 feet of his 200 ft drives, he would be at another level (Karlson-y). His shot is weak. At this point I think he should try to drive to the net and when he starts skating it the length of the ice W or C drop back to cover LD. Maybe Connor could teach him a few moves…

  39. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    VanIsleOil:
    Leon Draisaitl is Paul Bunyan…. pure gold LT.

    https://tinyurl.com/tcy56z7

    Man that Smith is hard on the ticker to watch. Every shot he is flipping, swimming, or falling forward. But credit to him, lately it has been enough.

    His form and technique are basically gone, but he is a fighter.

  40. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Interesting note from Staples listening to the CoH post-game podcast, we know Leon’s production in the 15 games since Kailer’s recall, however, in those 15 games, Nuge is 6th in the NHL in scoring.

    Remember the struggles Nuge started the season with?

    He’s playing the best hockey of his career now (and I think it pre-dated the current Nuge/Leon/Kailer line).

    He said he wanted consistent linemates he could form chemistry with. Well…..

    Nuge is 10th in total points in the league since December 31st, but mostly because the guys ahead have played more games than he has in that span. His 1.4 P/GP is 4th in the league.

    If you look at each team’s past 15 games only, Nuge’s 21 points comes in 3rd, behind only Draisaitl (28) and Kucherov (23).

  41. ArmchairGM says:

    John Chambers:
    If the Oilers weather the storm over the next two weeks maybe the NHL media will start to acknowledge Draisaitl as a Hart candidate.

    The odds on him winning the Art Ross are probably pretty good. He’ll just have to polish up that -11 before the end of game 82.

    He’s +7 in his past 15 games.

  42. doctoreye says:

    Carolina has two first round picks in 2020 draft.They are looking for a RD.Why not trade Larsson for one of their picks?We could use that pick along with PULU to get almost any available player to play with McDavid.

  43. knighttown says:

    GordieHoweHatTrick: I was thinking about this too last night.
    If he could be taught better for completing the last 40 feet of his 200 ft drives, he would be at another level (Karlson-y). His shot is weak. At this point I think he should try to drive to the net and when he starts skating it the length of the ice W or C drop back to cover LD. Maybe Connor could teach him a few moves…

    Off the rush I think it’s pretty simple. Soft dump and chase yourself as he’s a load to handle on the forecheck. Get possession and wait for help. Or hard rim to the weak side.

    It’s the shift killing muffins that are the major issue. It’s win a battle, back to Bear, over to Nurse and chest muffin.

    He needs to keep that moving and there’s usually three options;
    1. Support winger working up from the corner towards him
    2. Center (or F3) moving up high, center of the zone at the blue line

    If those aren’t open the safest play is always to place the puck behind the net and re engage the cycle. Defenders are trained to protect the corners and behind the net last.

  44. Harpers Hair says:

    Kypreous reporting Shea Webber’s career my be in jeopardy over foot problems related to previous surgery.
    Ryan Whitney redux?

  45. jtblack says:

    doctoreye:
    Carolina has two first round picks in 2020 draft.They are looking for a RD.Why not trade Larsson for one of their picks?We could use that pick along with PULU to get almost any available player to play with McDavid.

    Also Tampa has 2 – 1st rounders ..they might want Larsson or Russell for playoff depth??? obviously to get a 1st, they would be part of a package

  46. knighttown says:

    knighttown: Off the rush I think it’s pretty simple. Soft dump and chase yourself as he’s a load to handle on the forecheck. Get possession and wait for help. Or hard rim to the weak side.

    It’s the shift killing muffins that are the major issue. It’s win a battle, back to Bear, over to Nurse and chest muffin.

    He needs to keep that moving and there’s usually three options;
    1.Support winger working up from the corner towards him
    2.Center (or F3) moving up high, center of the zone at the blue line

    If those aren’t open the safest play is always to place the puck behind the net and re engage the cycle. Defenders are trained to protect the corners and behind the net last.

    But then he followed these dog plays with two splendid “slot” breakout passes later in the game.

    Honestly, with those might have been his only two such passes I can remember.

  47. Harpers Hair says:

    doctoreye:
    Carolina has two first round picks in 2020 draft.They are looking for a RD.Why not trade Larsson for one of their picks?We could use that pick along with PULU to get almost any available player to play with McDavid.

    Carolina has an analytics department.
    Don’t think they’ll be giving up a first for Larsson.

  48. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Hmmm, Benson with the recall, not Granny, I’m a bit surprised.

    This is where I think they are banking on Benson’s skill to help one of the 3 fourth lines we currently have and maybe make it a third line.
    If it were me, I’m thinking of pairing him with Nuge on a temporary 2nd line and keeping yam with Drai. Or maybe throw Benson up with Drai and Yamo and hopefully the Chem with Yamo from Bak clicks. Pair Nuge with Kassian in either case.

  49. npanciroli says:

    Time to jump on that Weber injury and trade Larsson for a forward from Montreal.

  50. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Nit64: Hi WG, Pts % alone will break ties for playoff position in favour of fewer GP. So you don’t need a separate tiebreak if you run with“WC standings sorted by points% showing points over/under fake Bettman .500”.

    Note: there are rare scenarios where for clarity you’d show the pts% next to the over/under. But the classic example from MLB involved 2 teams above .667 and 6 games in hand.
    https://twitter.com/CBSSportsMLB/status/1007328235464613888

    When this occurs (usually in the first few weeks) it’s cool to see both. That MLB scenario sorted by PCT showing GAMES above .500 would be:

    NYY +11.5 (.684)
    BOS +12.5 (.681)
    TB -1.5
    TOR -4
    BAL -14.5

    Yes, I know.

    I’m not going to do half games so I just mention why two teams with the points over Bettman are in a certain order.

    Sometimes they have identical records and I break the tie via regulation wins, so I mention when it’s gp and the team ahead is actually ahead in points %.

    If you want to do the same standings using half games i’ll read it.

  51. Reja says:

    VanIsleOil:
    Leon Draisaitl is Paul Bunyan…. pure gold LT.

    https://tinyurl.com/tcy56z7

    Man that Smith is hard on the ticker to watch. Every shot he is flipping, swimming, or falling forward. But credit to him, lately it has been enough.

    Yeah baby he’s a bigger version of Mike Palmateer, he’s battling hard and making saves at the right time.The players are feeding of his compete level and are getting it done in front of him.

  52. Harpers Hair says:

    If Weber is indeed done, it would be likely be a blessing in disguise for Montreal since it would free up almost $8 million in cap space for the next six seasons.

    Since Weber is 34, it’s likely he would rapidly decline given his foot problems.

    He received $68 million in signing bonuses on his 14 year contract and only has $18 million in pure salary remaining.

    If he goes on LTIR, the Habs win..if he retires they will have massive cap recapture penalties as will Nashville.

  53. duct tape and foil says:

    Well here we are, 6 out of next 8 games on the road in February, and no McDavid. If the team can somehow get 8 points out of those 8 games, we are likely in the playoffs. They only play 6 road games all of March (and 3 of those are in the first week). They are literally home and clear as of March 5 since they only have a single 4 day eastern road trip for the rest of the season.

    Drai’s line is obviously fine, Sheahan’s line as well since Kass adds enough speed and skill. The 4th line’s job is to make nothing happen (which they did well last night).

    The Haas line is however not fine and most of the problem is RHS Gagner being a turn-over machine on the LW boards in our zone. Benson is up and I would play him with Cave and Russell on a limited minutes Bako line since these guys are probably familiar with each other.

    RNH Drai Yamo
    Kass Haas Chaser
    Khaira Sheahan Archie
    Benson Cave Russell

    Anathasiou and Glendening from DET fills a bunch of holes

  54. New Improved Darkness says:

    Oilin4,

    Levin’s said that Klefbom was playing hurt to explain his recent streak of middling performances.

    Perfect introductory syllogism for your grade-seven math classroom:

    * All men are playing hurt all the time.
    * Dreamy is not playing well lately.
    * Dreamy must therefore be playing hurt.

    All the boys will swoon with cognitive dissonance while the girls mentally peel fresh grapes. But since this is now the era of no girl left behind in the math classroom, we must also add the companion syllogism:

    * All men feign productive domestic industry involving power tools in order to avoid emptying out the garbage can.
    * The garbage smells especially bad today.
    * Therefore your man is driving to Home Hardware to pick up another DeWalt.

    However, the middle school math teacher can not actually say out loud that suburban DeWalt is an expensive form of aroma therapy, because that would break the code on the governing principles of life that young couples simply have to internalize for themselves, akin to explaining the pros and cons of the missionary position during the Boolean-valued adolescent phase of getting some / not getting some.

  55. Profit says:

    This from Stauffer:

    Bob Stauffer
    @Bob_Stauffer
    Anton Slepyshev has 16-19-35/48 GP/+22 this season for KHL leading CSKA .
    Oilers qualified him summer 2018 to retain rights.
    His KHL contract is up at the end of this season.
    No question IMO he could play in the NHL as a bottom six forward.
    Still just 25, 6’2″, 220, can skate

    I have a lot of time for the idea of Sleppy coming back over. Question for one of the big (contract) brains here. Could Sleppy come over at the end of the KHL season this year? Or is this a next year only possibility?

    • Doug McLachlan says:

      He could come over this year but, as it is after December 1st, he would have to pass through wiavers – and won’t.

      He’s a next year contract but I would be thrilled to see it.

      A European showtime line of Nygard-Haas-Slepyshev could be fun.

  56. Harpers Hair says:

    Profit:
    This from Stauffer:

    Bob Stauffer
    @Bob_Stauffer
    Anton Slepyshev has 16-19-35/48 GP/+22 this season for KHL leading CSKA .
    Oilers qualified him summer 2018 to retain rights.
    His KHL contract is up at the end of this season.
    No question IMO he could play in the NHL as a bottom sixforward.
    Still just 25, 6’2″, 220, can skate

    I have a lot of time for the idea of Sleppy coming back over. Question for one of the big (contract) brains here. Could Sleppy come over at the end of the KHL season this year? Or is this a next year only possibility?

    He would have to clear waivers.

  57. LMHF#1 says:

    If MTL is out – they’re a very interesting trading partner.

    Kovalchuk, Domi, Tatar, Petry and more…

    I wonder what would get you Kovalchuk, Domi and Petry…

    Definitely the 1st…Larsson probably…then more…

    But that would answer a lot of questions and right quick…

  58. Dustylegnd says:

    godot10:
    // I thought he lost his man on the first goal.//

    It is a matter of fact that “he” lost his man on the first goal, not a matter of opinion.“He” is getting as regular as the Sun rising in the East in being responsible for the first goal against in the game.

    A weak, weak, weak effort on that play.

    Thanks for another “objective” evaluation of Kassian’s game…I love the fact he will be tormenting you for the next 4.25 years

  59. Dustylegnd says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Interesting note from Staples listening to the CoH post-game podcast, we know Leon’s production in the 15 games since Kailer’s recall, however, in those 15 games, Nuge is 6th in the NHL in scoring.

    Remember the struggles Nuge started the season with?

    He’s playing the best hockey of his career now (and I think it pre-dated the current Nuge/Leon/Kailer line).

    He said he wanted consistent linemates he could form chemistry with. Well…..

    Has any Oiler ever been more deserving of quality linemates?…oh wait a minute McDavid had Sam and Chiasson last game…..Never Mind

  60. theDjdj says:

    John Chambers,

    That would go down as Chiarelli bad. Don’t trade significant assets for 30yo defenseman. If anything they’d be desperate to move the contract. I’ve loved Doughty for years but you shouldn’t pay for former glory

  61. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Saw Demelo mentioned as a name of interest from some rinky dink rumour account on twitter.

    His numbers are awesome. Hope Holland is genuinely looking at him.

  62. Nit64 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: If you want to do the same standings using half games i’ll read it.

    Was not suggesting half games, just sorting by pts%.

    Example 1. Today. Nearly identical result. Only change is the RW tiebreaker is not used for Preds/Wild because of the different pts%.

    Western Conference sorted by points%
    Showing Bettman over/under .500

    CENTRAL
    Colorado 17
    St Louis 17
    Dallas 13

    PACIFIC
    Edmonton 10
    Vancouver 10
    Calgary 7

    WILD CARD
    Vegas 6
    Winnipeg 5

    OUT
    Arizona 5
    Nashville 4
    Minnesota 4
    Chicago 2
    Anaheim -3
    San Jose -4
    Los Angeles -14

    Turns out at mid-season you really need to go to extremes to construct the corner case where Pt% and over/under have different order. Whereas in October trolls can dine on sort order nightly.

    Example 2. Add 5 games to Colorado. 3-2-0

    Western Conference sorted by points%
    Showing Bettman over/under .500

    CENTRAL
    St Louis 17 (.652)
    Colorado 18 (.650)
    Dallas 13

    PACIFIC
    Edmonton 10
    Vancouver 10
    Calgary 7

    WILD CARD
    Vegas 6
    Winnipeg 5

    OUT
    Arizona 5
    Nashville 4
    Minnesota 4
    Chicago 2
    Anaheim -3
    San Jose -4
    Los Angeles -14

    Sorry to confuse things with the 2018 MLB example that blew up twitter in New York and Boston.

    To sum up. Extremely small change. If you like you it, you need to do less:

    1. sort by Pts%
    2. tiebreak by RW and ROW (not needed as much due to #1. over/under tiebreak never needed due to #1).
    3. show Pts over/under
    4. also show Pts% for teams where the order is opposite the over/under (example 2).

    – A. Nit

  63. OilClog says:

    Nuge was heating up before Yamamotor arrived.

  64. Munny says:

    RIP Christie Blatchford. You will be missed.

  65. ArmchairGM says:

    OilClog:
    Nuge was heating up before Yamamotor arrived.

    I don’t think so.

    Nuge was 2-2-4 and minus-6 in the 10 games prior to December 31st: 0.40 P/GP

    He’s gone 8-13-21 and plus-10 in the 15 games since: 1.40 P/GP

    • OilClog says:

      Game 33 assist against Montreal
      Game 34 goal against the canucks
      Game 35 0pts – 3 cowpukes
      Game 36 1 goal 3 assists rangers

      Yamamotor
      Game 36 1 goal rangers.

      So infact he was heating up getting over the injury dragging around cement shoes and cement hands for wingers.

      Before game 33 Nuge had 2pts in 7 games coming back from injury.

      Since game 33 he’s been coming on.

  66. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair: He would have to clear waivers.

    I like Sleppy he’s a playoff player it’s to bad he couldn’t come over for the run to the finish line.

  67. Victoria Oil says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Kypreous reporting Shea Webber’s career my be in jeopardy over foot problems related to previous surgery.
    Ryan Whitney redux?

    That’s a long and smelly contract. LTIR might be the best thing for the Habs.

  68. Reja says:

    JimmyV1965: Or you can always get wingers and play RNH at centre.

    If Josh Anderson ever gets healthy I offer Caleb and Jesse, unite the Jones and the Finn can resurrect Jesse from the Bambi league he’s playing in.

    • OilClog says:

      If Anderson gets healthy and comes back he might be their 3rd best RW and we’re offering Caleb and Jesse. Yiiiikes.

      We don’t need a Anderson when we have a Alex Chiasson potting 30 for us.

  69. SwedishPoster says:

    Hell of an effort last night. The game was more nerve wrecking than your usual regular season game, felt crucial to get a win in the first game without McDavid.

    Couple of notes. Drai is such a gamer, has that it factor in spotlight games. Yamamoto’s reactionary times are some of the quickest I’ve seen since Hasek, seriously, damn he reacts quickly to developing plays. Sheahan looks so much better when he plays with two plus skaters.

    The PP was an absolute tire fire on the first penalty but after that they just kicked it into top gear. What a statement from the teams skill guys.

  70. Harpers Hair says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Saw Demelo mentioned as a name of interest from some rinky dink rumour account on twitter.

    His numbers are awesome. Hope Holland is genuinely looking at him.

    VCR won’t move him while they hash out a new contract with Markstrom.

    If they can’t agree to terms with Markstrom, Demko is #1.

  71. meanashell11 says:

    Munny:
    RIP Christie Blatchford.You will be missed.

    Oh wow. I have lived outside of Canada for a long time but really liked her. 20 years ago she had her email on her stories and I used to reach out to her. Always nice to speak to. Was she sick?

  72. duct tape and foil says:

    I’ve got tons of time for Slepy and wish we had him right now. Like Kass, he was another victim of the Throughly Mediocre Coach and would probably do just as well with any kind of support and proper deployment.

    Speaking of TMac. Nice to see him getting 110% out of his roster in LA. Shame that SJS wasted Jumbo’s prime years on that fake.

  73. Munny says:

    From Friedman’s 31:

    4. Edmonton made it clear in the Taylor Hall sweepstakes they weren’t interested in moving their first-rounder for a rental. I’m not convinced they’d want to move Jesse Puljujarvi for one. They don’t want to touch their top defence prospects. I don’t think any of that changes with Connor McDavid injured. The only way I’d see any of that changing is if a difference-maker with term or team control is in the picture.

    https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-nhl-players-beijing-2022-winter-olympics/

    Small ball.

  74. meanashell11 says:

    Munny,

    That’s sad. I have never smoked, my Mom beat that out of me!

    I just loved Christie’s toughness and support for those who could not fight back. Real Canadian values!

  75. Munny says:

    meanashell11: I just loved Christie’s toughness and support for those who could not fight back. Real Canadian values!

    Agreed. Should be a state funeral or something (it won’t be).

  76. OilClog says:

    Lol Shea Webers career is over 4-6weeks with an ankle sprain 🧐🙄

    Bunch of overblown drama, Kyp would be fired but that already happened lol.

  77. JOFA says:

    Wrong decision to call up Benson IMO. Should be putting up numbers down on the farm to try and trade him ASAP

    #tweener
    #freecurrie

  78. dustrock says:

    Sheahan looks so much better than the first 20 games of the season.

  79. OriginalPouzar says:

    Benson is a teeener but Currie a legit NHL option?

  80. SwedishPoster says:

    On a different note I wonder if it’s a coincidence that Holland was planning a scouting trip to Sweden this week when Skellefteå, BroBerglund’s team, plays a back to back vs the two teams where number one and two in the SHL scoring race plays? The guy leading is a 28 yo who’s 5’7 so unlikely to be a hard target, very skilled though and would probably look real good in the AHL.
    The guy who’s second, Mathias Bromé, is more interesting. It was talk about him heading to the NHL already this season but he ended up staying. Player who’s taken the long route but has developed into a very wellrounded player with smarts and skill. Not Nygård fast but a good skater. Is starting to shine in international games with team Sweden as well. 25 yo, winger, 6’0. By no means a guarantee he’d be able to stick in the NHL but worth a gamble so I hope my theory is correct and Holland is looking at him. Cheap depth that has a slight chance to be more than that.

    • SwedishPoster says:

      Should also be noted that Detroit is looking at Bromé according to swedish media. Might have been on their radar a year ago when Holland was in charge.

  81. leadfarmer says:

    Lots of crow eating on Yamamoto going on here
    I wonder if Godot published a crow cookbook yet

  82. dustrock says:

    leadfarmer:
    Lots of crow eating on Yamamoto going on here
    I wonder if Godot published a crow cookbook yet

    I mean, he looks like a completely different player now and is going hard in the forecheck and the blue paint. I didn’t see it to that level in his previous call-ups.

    He’s also 5’8″ and had some injuries.

    Having some doubts was pretty natural.

    Very happy for him.

  83. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Very happy for KY’s breakout!
    Also great to hear his youthful exuberance in interviews talking about playing with McD and Drai. He is flying high!
    If he is still playing this way in the fall, get that extension done before he realizes how valuable he is to the team’s success!

    KY and Bear’s emergence are highlights for me this year and a big part of the team being slightly ahead of RE.

  84. Bulging Twine says:

    It was great to see the Oilers score 4 goals without McDavid and Russell in the line up

    Let’s hope they can continue to produce offense without these two and their combined 30 goals

  85. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Material Elvis: There’s no way I would mess with the chemistry of that line.They are killing it right now — ride the wave.

    Agreed.

    You have to outscore the opposition to win.

    I’d be interested to see if 29-56 can still score without 93 but I’m ride that PDO pony until it bucks you off.

  86. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    doctoreye:
    Carolina has two first round picks in 2020 draft.They are looking for a RD.Why not trade Larsson for one of their picks?We could use that pick along with PULU to get almost any available player to play with McDavid.

    Eric Tulsky is CAR’s VP analytics.

    I seriously doubt he’d want Larsson.

    A GM like Tallon, who also wants RHD, is more likely to take Larsson.

  87. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    New Improved Darkness:
    Oilin4,

    Levin’s said that Klefbom was playing hurt to explain his recent streak of middling performances.

    Perfect introductory syllogism for your grade-seven math classroom:

    * All men are playing hurt all the time.
    * Dreamy is not playing well lately.
    * Dreamy must therefore be playing hurt.

    All the boys will swoon with cognitive dissonance while the girls mentally peel fresh grapes. But since this is now the era of no girl left behind in the math classroom, we must also add the companion syllogism:

    * All men feign productive domestic industry involving power tools in order to avoid emptying out the garbage can.
    * The garbage smells especially bad today.
    * Therefore your man is driving to Home Hardware to pick up another DeWalt.

    However, the middle school math teacher can not actually say out loud that suburban DeWalt is an expensive form of aroma therapy, because that would break the code on the governing principles of life that young couples simply have to internalize for themselves, akin to explaining the pros and cons of the missionary position during the Boolean-valued adolescent phase of getting some / not getting some.

    Perfect introductory syllogism for your grade-seven math classroom:

    * All men are playing hurt all the time.
    * Dreamy is not playing well lately.
    * Dreamy must therefore be playing hurt.

    I was at the NSH game.

    Not sure what happened but at one point he basically dragged himself to the bench on one leg. I think he blocked a shot.

    Was in pain on the bench.

    Way more pain than McDavid after his injury based on how demonstrative each player was one the bench after they got hurt.

    I was surprised he came back in the NSH game tbh. He looked like someone shot him.

  88. flyfish1168 says:

    dustrock:
    Sheahan looks so much better than the first 20 games of the season.

    I keep thinking he came to camp out of shape

  89. fries n gravy says:

    Solid read: https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/edmonton-oilers-gm-ken-holland-in-position-to-make-good-old-fashioned-hockey-trade-moving-out-d-man-for-winger

    My sense:
    – Oilers would trade Russell in a heartbeat if they didn’t need to retain salary. They like him quite well, but $4m cap space is $4m cap space.
    – Oilers really like Benning in the 3rd pair, but not at all higher up
    – Oilers don’t see a replacement for Larson’s minutes, so won’t trade him now
    – Oilers know RD changes are a-coming within 12 months
    – Holland doesn’t want to cripple this year’s team

    Remember, Holland bought out Sekera. My guess is that he’s turning over every stone possible looking for a way to trade Russell and will only listen on Larsson if there’s a substantial forward coming back.

  90. flyfish1168 says:

    Profit:
    This from Stauffer:

    Bob Stauffer
    @Bob_Stauffer
    Anton Slepyshev has 16-19-35/48 GP/+22 this season for KHL leading CSKA .
    Oilers qualified him summer 2018 to retain rights.
    His KHL contract is up at the end of this season.
    No question IMO he could play in the NHL as a bottom sixforward.
    Still just 25, 6’2″, 220, can skate

    I have a lot of time for the idea of Sleppy coming back over. Question for one of the big (contract) brains here. Could Sleppy come over at the end of the KHL season this year? Or is this a next year only possibility?

    That would be like found free money.

  91. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Woodguy v2.0: A GM like Tallon, who also wants RHD, is more likely to take Larsson.

    “I’d like to acquire a veteran D if I could to play with (Aaron) Ekblad and settle things down a bit back there,” Tallon told NHL.com. “We need to be more consistent on the blue line.”

    I just checked and Ekblad is a Right shot D.
    No need to consult your phone.

    Perhaps Cowboy Up could settle Ekblad down.

  92. New Improved Darkness says:

    I had to sign up for online banking through an “upgraded” customer website today, after a long rain delay from my initial trek through the telephonic gantlet of reading back my long account number digit by digit, twice over, at 1% of the speed of a teletype from the 1970s.

    [*] I used to have one of those babies in my bedroom, with the continuous scroll of yellow paper. It was the only reliable way to save my finished programs, in the era of 8″ floppy disk drives which I couldn’t then afford.

    [**] For those who have never seen one, the 8″ floppy disk drive was invented by a French superchef wielding a precision Swiss microplane so as not to unduly disturb the vast white perfection of the white-tundra bone china—effective data rate measured in truffles per month.

    Eventually some kind Indian soul reached my callback number and together we walked through the valley of darkness. I spared her the valley of dorkness which I sometimes inflict on these people, because she never lied to me to make the whole experience sound less fucked up.

    But, of course, one experiences a lot of dead time to drum your fingers while the system sends code to your email and your mobile device, and during one of these dead spells I finally cracked the fine print of the 2×2×2×3×3 jihadic reward compact. As shipped, this is actually an IKEA flatpack in five-dimensional space, with two larger dimensions to form a base, so it’s less prone to tip over onto some tender non-bottom facet when delivered to your five-dimensional doorstep.

    [*] Just imagine filming and narrating your very own five-dimensional unboxing video when your 72 virgins arrive as promised, guaranteed overnight. They’re not Swedish virgins, though they do arrive in excellent working order thanks to Swedish orderliness and ingenuity. It’s an interesting culture up there in the serpentine queue of afterlife application forms: backgammon cafes as far as the eye can see, each one with wall-to-wall giant-screen TVs contractually enslaved to the video supersite virgin.mm/unbox.

    [**] “mm” shortened from “Imam” by gutting the vowels—now with a delicious Mr Goodbar connotation—as the ruling .com in the heavenly kingdom of the infinite expense account which is never settled (though you can request a hard copy print-out of your transaction history under ancient transparency and retention covenants which predate Hammurabi).

    Now the problem is this: your virgins arrive so efficiently that you’re still in your transient housing stage of the serpentine swell, awaiting completion of the official online paperwork. It’s your last brush with evil as you transition into your eternal afterlife, structured so as to shatter any illusions you might have acquired concerning mere banality.

    Every time you type the wrong quantity in the wrong place—or even the previously correct quantity in the previously correct place—you have to sacrifice a virgin or wave a dead chicken to reset your session, or every other screen thence forward will contain triple-mascara punctuation marks set into red geometric backdrops (circles, squares, and octagons are par for the course, whereas the red Star of David is spectacularly hard to achieve, and you’ll regale your confederates with this story forevermore). The crux of the problem here being that dead chickens are barely available for ready money; moreover, in a cashless society, ready money is itself rarer than hen’s teeth. Sorry about that, virgins. Simple law of supply and demand.

    How long can you beat yourself bloody on the steady supply of error pages with no actual actual code. (Ooooh—there’s that the red-circle exclamation mark again, I think we’ve been here before.)

    It’s rumoured the veterinarians have more training that your garden-variety GP, because Dr Doolittle was screwing the pooch when he should have been busy inventing a much-needed furry-companion babblefish. Animals don’t tell you precisely what’s wrong, in much the same way that the modern web design idiom has devolved into a taciturn, cowboy wilderness of happy turtle / sad turtle.

    [*] Some extremely progressive designs also provide a progress indicator denominated in tumbleweeds; these mainly prove reliable in the kind of interminable atmospheric stillness that once caused hardened sailors to jump overboard in thrall to a mermaid illusion. When you’re finally awarded a cactus instead on your breadcrumb progress bar, you’re so relieved you kiss the damn thing with both lips. Tumbleweeds come and go, but cacti are not revoked.

    No-one really knows if the triple-mascara circles, triangles, squares, and octagons of ! are distinct species, or merely cosmetic variations on the same theme. But the tipple-mascara Star of David is for certain at least a distinct breed, one which likely translates to “oh my gosh, we didn’t even realize this moribund code was reachable any longer” and then you’ll get a real tech person on the phone (Imam Cubed, but just call me “Cube”) and he’ll spend careful hours on the phone with you until he finally says “ah, now I know how you got here!” and then he’ll quickly conclude the call by transferring you back to a different desk (adding a blessing on your soul, whatever that’s finally worth).

    But now we see a clear reason why so many Swedes were seconded from their own proper Cloud Nine to the boiler room of the Arabic afterlife. In the prevailing absence of dead chickens, sacrificing a virgin is the only way to reliably reset your afterlife application form. Eternity waits for no man.

    Nevertheless, the Arabic Job is a stubborn man. He’s sill industriously working his way through the afterlife application form without having yet sacrificed a single virgin out of sheer frustration (the moment comes when a man thinks “what’s one virgin less of our 72, more or less?”)

    Job is hardly the 40-year-old virgin, but his present dry-spell of 4000 years while presiding over a squabbling household of 72 Certified Angus beauties all dressed up like the Zoot twins of Castle Anthrax would surely have already broken a lesser man. Yet still our hero Job has not succumbed to “Fetchez la vache!” (God moves in mysterious ways, and Arab Job was hardened up for a good reason.)

    When Arab Job finally succeeds—only one cactus so far, and his lips healed up just fine more than a thousand years ago—he’ll be the only man on the inside still with his full original complement of seventy two. Every red-blooded Arab and Persian man will kneel over and kiss the fluffy, antiseptic floor that Sultan All-72 treads upon. Only what they don’t know is that none of the virgins are putting out yet, to punish Arabic Job for having made them wait for multiple millennia in the first place. Secretly, their hearts are throbbing with romantic gratitude that he shepherded his entire allotment through the eye of the needle. But the first woman who breaks from the sisterhood scornwagon will be a marked woman among the other seventy one for a darn long time, so not one of them dares to do so, despite the ready supply of fever dreams.

    What really needs to happen here is that Job needs to assemble a caravan and sneak his entire entourage out of the dry quarter. There’s a special star in the heavenly sky that twinkles twice as bright during an Irish wake. He may have to cross a long desert or two, but he’ll surely find the forbidden quarter all in good time if he sticks with his gun. Once there he can requisition 72 sumptuous private tents, and then get them all so liquored up that by the next morning no-one can remember which tent he first visited to deliver more than a friendly peck on the cheek. On that collectively woozy morning, one lucky woman (or was it two?) will need to drop kick a bubbling samovar into next week, so as to take the giveaway glow out of her fresh dimples with a broken, bruised, and scalded big toe, upon which she will hobble uncomplainingly with a light and burbling heart.

    So far so good. At this juncture Arab Job faces a new and horrific logistical problem. How to return to the unforbidden side without squandering the whole virginal shebang on one extended excursion?

    You think the outbound trip was cantankerous with 72 virgins in tow? Try making the return trip with only 69 virgins still saddled upon the virginal shortbus and three intensely feminized fiends who are newly piety challenged. Plus, in the stultified thinking of your multi-millennial dry spell, you forgot to mark your return trail with regular tumbleweed markers (in this desert not even cacti will grow), and it’s actually far harder to navigate away from an irregular Irish wakestar than it was to obtain in the first place, as Arab Job will soon learn.

    Well, that about covers it. Without having descended into the valley of dorkness, I think I’ve successfully described my morning call-tree experience to a mint teapot.

    To repeat each of the last 200 voice prompt messages involving digit sequences read out in sin … gle … step … dup … li … cate slower than your clattering adolescent bedroom teletype from the 1970s, press *.

    To sacrifice a virgin (and skip 1/72ndth of a c-hair closer to the main prize), press #.

    ———

    [*] If you’re too chickenshit to sacrifice one of your seventy two with your bare hands, you might be able to avail yourself of asking “these questions three” near a shaky wooden catwalk stretched across some bleak, desolate crevice. But this is a risky as the shootout in the NHL, because the pouty bombshell who has most consistently haunted your dreams just might answer to her favourite colour based on recently expressed group preference.

  93. godot10 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Lots of crow eating on Yamamoto going on here
    I wonder if Godot published a crow cookbook yet

    Why would I have to eat crow on Yamamoto? All I ever said was that Yamamoto needed time in the minors (as almost every player of his type who matriculated from the WHL needed), and in September, I said to forget about him (and Bouchard) till January.

    Holland did exactly what I suggested with regard to Yamamoto.

    No need to eat crow on Yamamoto for continually articulating the right development path for him.

    It is a vindicatioin cake for me, not a crow cake.

  94. Harpers Hair says:

    godot10: Why would I have to eat crow on Yamamoto?All I ever said was that Yamamoto needed time in the minors (as almost every player of his type who matriculated from the WHL needed), and in September, I said to forget about him (and Bouchard) till January.

    Holland did exactly what I suggested with regard to Yamamoto.

    No need to eat crow on Yamamoto for continuing articulating the right development path for him.

    It is a vindicatioin cake for me, not a crow cake.

    Small sample size alert.

    Teams are seeing Yamamoto for the first time.

    As they get a read on him they will reduce his effectiveness.

  95. leadfarmer says:

    godot10: Why would I have to eat crow on Yamamoto?All I ever said was that Yamamoto needed time in the minors (as almost every player of his type who matriculated from the WHL needed), and in September, I said to forget about him (and Bouchard) till January.

    Holland did exactly what I suggested with regard to Yamamoto.

    No need to eat crow on Yamamoto for continually articulating the right development path for him.

    It is a vindicatioin cake for me, not a crow cake.

    I believe too small for the NHL
    Wasted draft pick was the refrain

  96. JOFA says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Benson is a teeener but Currie a legit NHL option?

    A smarter call-up IMO. Better pure goal scorer. Better skater. More NHL games under his belt. Benson will never play 100 games in the bigs. Need to trade him ASAP.

  97. JOFA says:

    Harpers Hair: Small sample size alert.

    Teams are seeing Yamamoto for the first time.

    As they get a read on him they will reduce his effectiveness.

    Pun intended?

  98. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Profit:
    This from Stauffer:

    Bob Stauffer
    @Bob_Stauffer
    Anton Slepyshev has 16-19-35/48 GP/+22 this season for KHL leading CSKA .
    Oilers qualified him summer 2018 to retain rights.
    His KHL contract is up at the end of this season.
    No question IMO he could play in the NHL as a bottom sixforward.
    Still just 25, 6’2″, 220, can skate

    I have a lot of time for the idea of Sleppy coming back over. Question for one of the big (contract) brains here. Could Sleppy come over at the end of the KHL season this year? Or is this a next year only possibility?

    Love me some Sleppy.

    Great shot.

    I bet he’d flourish under Tippett.

    Bet JP would too, but alas I don’t think that’s in the cards.

  99. Harpers Hair says:

    JOFA: Pun intended?

    Caught me.🤪

  100. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Nit64,

    1. sort by Pts%
    2. tiebreak by RW and ROW (not needed as much due to #1. over/under tiebreak never needed due to #1).
    3. show Pts over/under
    4. also show Pts% for teams where the order is opposite the over/under (example 2).

    – A. Nit\

    I do sort by pts%.

    I go to hockey-reference, click on the standings, click on pts%, copy and paste.

    I also tiebreak by RW when the pts% is identical.

    I show pts over/under Bettman and if a team has a better pts % and the same Bettman as the team below I write “tie’s broken by gp”.

    Its due to the less gp that the points percentage is better, but its usually ~0.002 or 0.001 so why write it?

    I can’t figure out what you’re on about because you’re asking me to do almost exactly what I do.

  101. Munny says:

    New Improved Darkness,

    +100 for the Pythons intertwined amongst the chaste and the chased.

    Edit: I was trying to circle this back to numerology but like your Imams, I came up with zero…

  102. Reja says:

    JOFA: Pun intended?

    Wow aren’t you ray of sunshine give the kid a chance before he’s tarred and feathered and banished to the gulags in Siberia.

  103. leadfarmer says:

    Harpers Hair: Small sample size alert.

    Teams are seeing Yamamoto for the first time.

    As they get a read on him they will reduce his effectiveness.

    I think every teams focus is to defend the front of the net
    As long as he continues to go there he will be effective

  104. JOFA says:

    Reja: Wow aren’t you ray of sunshine give the kid a chance before he’s tarred and feathered andbanished to the gulags in Siberia.

    Remember Rattie?

  105. Harpers Hair says:

    leadfarmer: I think every teams focus is to defend the front of the net
    As long as he continues to go there he will be effective

    Until opposing pitchers throw him the high hard fastball.

    It’s coming.

  106. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Nit64,

    1. sort by Pts%
    2. tiebreak by RW and ROW (not needed as much due to #1. over/under tiebreak never needed due to #1).
    3. show Pts over/under
    4. also show Pts% for teams where the order is opposite the over/under (example 2).


    – A. Nit\

    I do sort by pts%.

    I go to hockey-reference, click on the standings, click on pts%, copy and paste.

    I also tiebreak by RW when the pts% is identical.

    I show pts over/under Bettman and if a team has a better pts % and the same Bettman as the team below I write “tie’s broken by gp”.

    Its due to the less gp that the points percentage is better, but its usually ~0.002 or 0.001 so why write it?

    I can’t figure out what you’re on about because you’re asking me to do almost exactly what I do.

    Good grief Darcy…
    Points percentage tells you everything you need to know.
    The team with the superior points percentage will ALWAYS finish ahead.
    The only occasion when tie breakers matter is if there is a tie….a relatively rare occurrence.

  107. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Reja: I like Sleppy he’s a playoff player it’s to bad he couldn’t come over for the run to the finish line.

    Flattop didn’t use his players well.

    Tippett does.

  108. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Harpers Hair: Good grief Darcy…
    Points percentage tells you everything you need to know.
    The team with the superior points percentage will ALWAYS finish ahead.
    The only occasion when tie breakers matter is if there is a tie….a relatively rare occurrence.

    JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY!!

    THE WAY I SHOW THE STANDINGS HAS TEAMS WITH THE SAME “POINTS OVER BETTMAN” WHEN ONE TEAM HAS A BETTER POINTS %.

    THE TEAM WITH THE BETTER POINTS % IS ****ALWAYS**** AHEAD IN THE MY STANDINGS LIKE EDM IS AHEAD OF VAN TODAY.

    THE TEAM WITH THE BETTER POINTS % ****ALWAYS**** HAS GAMES IN HAND SO I MAKE A NOTE THAT THE ORDER OF OF TEAMS IS DUE TO GP.

    WHEN THE POINTS PERCENTAGE IS THE SAME I USE REGULATIONS WINS AS THE TIE BREAK.

    WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!?!??!??!?!

  109. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    SwedishPoster:
    Hell of an effort last night. The game was more nerve wrecking than your usual regular season game, felt crucial to get a win in the first game without McDavid.

    Couple of notes. Drai is such a gamer, has that it factor in spotlight games. Yamamoto’s reactionary times are some of the quickest I’ve seen since Hasek, seriously, damn he reacts quickly to developing plays. Sheahan looks so much better when he plays with two plus skaters.

    The PP was an absolute tire fire on the first penalty but after that they just kicked it into top gear. What a statement from the teams skill guys.

    Yammo is small and great edges.

    Doesn’t take him nearly as much muscle energy to change direction as larger players.

    In today’s NHL small stature *might* be a fore-check advantage.

    Also,

    I think “playing fast” has more to do with edge work than straight ahead speed.

    That’s why passing on Barzal was such a crime.

    He turns like Yammo in tight spaces and has the offensive ability of Drai.

  110. oilsnc79 says:

    New Improved Darkness:
    I had to sign up for online banking through an “upgraded” customer website today, after a long rain delay from my initial trek through the telephonic gantlet of reading back my long account number digit by digit, twice over, at 1% of the speed of a teletype from the 1970s.

    [*] I used to have one of those babies in my bedroom, with the continuous scroll of yellow paper. It was the only reliable way to save my finished programs, in the era of 8″ floppy disk drives which I couldn’t then afford.

    [**] For those who have never seen one, the 8″ floppy disk drive was invented by a French superchef wielding a precision Swiss microplane so as not to unduly disturb the vast white perfection of the white-tundra bone china—effective data rate measured in truffles per month.

    Eventually some kind Indian soul reached my callback number and together we walked through the valley of darkness. I spared her the valley of dorkness which I sometimes inflict on these people, because she never lied to me to make the whole experience sound less fucked up.

    But, of course, one experiences a lot of dead time to drum your fingers while the system sends code to your email and your mobile device, and during one of these dead spells I finally cracked the fine print of the 2×2×2×3×3 jihadic reward compact. As shipped, this is actually an IKEA flatpack in five-dimensional space, with two larger dimensions to form a base, so it’s less prone to tip over onto some tender non-bottom facet when delivered to your five-dimensional doorstep.

    [*] Just imagine filming and narrating your very own five-dimensional unboxing video when your 72 virgins arrive as promised, guaranteed overnight. They’re not Swedish virgins, though they do arrive in excellent working order thanks to Swedish orderliness and ingenuity. It’s an interesting culture up there in the serpentine queue of afterlife application forms: backgammon cafes as far as the eye can see, each one with wall-to-wall giant-screen TVs contractually enslaved to the video supersite virgin.mm/unbox.

    [**] “mm” shortened from “Imam” by gutting the vowels—now with a delicious Mr Goodbar connotation—as the ruling .com in the heavenly kingdom of the infinite expense account which is never settled (though you can request a hard copy print-out of your transaction history under ancient transparency and retention covenants which predate Hammurabi).

    Now the problem is this: your virgins arrive so efficiently that you’re still in your transient housing stage of the serpentine swell, awaiting completion of the official online paperwork. It’s your last brush with evil as you transition into your eternal afterlife, structured so as to shatter any illusions you might have acquired concerning mere banality.

    Every time you type the wrong quantity in the wrong place—or even the previously correct quantity in the previously correct place—you have to sacrifice a virgin or wave a dead chicken to reset your session, or every other screen thence forward will contain triple-mascara punctuation marks set into red geometric backdrops (circles, squares, and octagons are par for the course, whereas the red Star of David is spectacularly hard to achieve, and you’ll regale your confederates with this story forevermore). The crux of the problem here being that dead chickens are barely available for ready money; moreover, in a cashless society, ready money is itself rarer than hen’s teeth. Sorry about that, virgins. Simple law of supply and demand.

    How long can you beat yourself bloody on the steady supply of error pages with no actual actual code. (Ooooh—there’s that the red-circle exclamation mark again, I think we’ve been here before.)

    It’s rumoured the veterinarians have more training that your garden-variety GP, because Dr Doolittle was screwing the pooch when he should have been busy inventing a much-needed furry-companion babblefish. Animals don’t tell you precisely what’s wrong, in much the same way that the modern web design idiom has devolved into a taciturn, cowboy wilderness of happy turtle / sad turtle.

    [*] Some extremely progressive designs also provide a progress indicator denominated in tumbleweeds; these mainly prove reliable in the kind of interminable atmospheric stillness that once caused hardened sailors to jump overboard in thrall to a mermaid illusion. When you’re finally awarded a cactus instead on your breadcrumb progress bar, you’re so relieved you kiss the damn thing with both lips. Tumbleweeds come and go, but cacti are not revoked.

    No-one really knows if the triple-mascara circles, triangles, squares, and octagons of ! are distinct species, or merely cosmetic variations on the same theme. But the tipple-mascara Star of David is for certain at least a distinct breed, one which likely translates to “oh my gosh, we didn’t even realize this moribund code was reachable any longer” and then you’ll get a real tech person on the phone (Imam Cubed, but just call me “Cube”) and he’ll spend careful hours on the phone with you until he finally says “ah, now I know how you got here!” and then he’ll quickly conclude the call by transferring you back to a different desk (adding a blessing on your soul, whatever that’s finally worth).

    But now we see a clear reason why so many Swedes were seconded from their own proper Cloud Nine to the boiler room of the Arabic afterlife. In the prevailing absence of dead chickens, sacrificing a virgin is the only way to reliably reset your afterlife application form. Eternity waits for no man.

    Nevertheless, the Arabic Job is a stubborn man. He’s sill industriously working his way through the afterlife application form without having yet sacrificed a single virgin out of sheer frustration (the moment comes when a man thinks “what’s one virgin less of our 72, more or less?”)

    Job is hardly the 40-year-old virgin, but his present dry-spell of 4000 years while presiding over a squabbling household of 72 Certified Angus beauties all dressed up like the Zoot twins of Castle Anthrax would surely have already broken a lesser man. Yet still our hero Job has not succumbed to “Fetchez la vache!” (God moves in mysterious ways, and Arab Job was hardened up for a good reason.)

    When Arab Job finally succeeds—only one cactus so far, and his lips healed up just fine more than a thousand years ago—he’ll be the only man on the inside still with his full original complement of seventy two. Every red-blooded Arab and Persian man will kneel over and kiss the fluffy, antiseptic floor that Sultan All-72 treads upon. Only what they don’t know is that none of the virgins are putting out yet, to punish Arabic Job for having made them wait for multiple millennia in the first place. Secretly, their hearts are throbbing with romantic gratitude that he shepherded his entire allotment through the eye of the needle. But the first woman who breaks from the sisterhood scornwagon will be a marked woman among the other seventy one for a darn long time, so not one of them dares to do so, despite the ready supply of fever dreams.

    What really needs to happen here is that Job needs to assemble a caravan and sneak his entire entourage out of the dry quarter. There’s a special star in the heavenly sky that twinkles twice as bright during an Irish wake. He may have to cross a long desert or two, but he’ll surely find the forbidden quarter all in good time if he sticks with his gun. Once there he can requisition 72 sumptuous private tents, and then get them all so liquored up that by the next morning no-one can remember which tent he first visited to deliver more than a friendly peck on the cheek. On that collectively woozy morning, one lucky woman (or was it two?) will need to drop kick a bubbling samovar into next week, so as to take the giveaway glow out of her fresh dimples with a broken, bruised, and scalded big toe, upon which she will hobble uncomplainingly with a light and burbling heart.

    So far so good. At this juncture Arab Job faces a new and horrific logistical problem. How to return to the unforbidden side without squandering the whole virginal shebang on one extended excursion?

    You think the outbound trip was cantankerous with 72 virgins in tow? Try making the return trip with only 69 virgins still saddled upon the virginal shortbus and three intensely feminized fiends who are newly piety challenged. Plus, in the stultified thinking of your multi-millennial dry spell, you forgot to mark your return trail with regular tumbleweed markers (in this desert not even cacti will grow), and it’s actually far harder to navigate away from an irregular Irish wakestar than it was to obtain in the first place, as Arab Job will soon learn.

    Well, that about covers it. Without having descended into the valley of dorkness, I think I’ve successfully described my morning call-tree experience to a mint teapot.

    To repeat each of the last 200 voice prompt messages involving digit sequences read out insin … gle … step … dup … li … cate slower than your clattering adolescent bedroom teletype from the 1970s, press *.

    To sacrifice a virgin (and skip 1/72ndth of a c-hair closer to the main prize), press #.

    ———

    [*] If you’re too chickenshit to sacrifice one of your seventy two with your bare hands, you might be able to avail yourself of asking “these questions three” near a shaky wooden catwalk stretched across some bleak, desolate crevice. But this is a risky as the shootout in the NHL, because the pouty bombshell who has most consistently haunted your dreams just might answer to her favourite colour based on recently expressed group preference.

    Lord Almighty man, you tell a fantastic story. But I can’t understand a fucking thing your talking about. Lol

  111. who says:

    fries n gravy:
    Solid read: https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/edmonton-oilers-gm-ken-holland-in-position-to-make-good-old-fashioned-hockey-trade-moving-out-d-man-for-winger

    My sense:
    – Oilers would trade Russell in a heartbeat if they didn’t need to retain salary. They like him quite well, but $4m cap space is $4m cap space.
    – Oilers really like Benning in the 3rd pair, but not at all higher up
    – Oilers don’t see a replacement for Larson’s minutes, so won’t trade him now
    – Oilers know RD changes are a-coming within 12 months
    – Holland doesn’t want to cripple this year’s team

    Remember, Holland bought out Sekera.My guess is that he’s turning over every stone possible looking for a way to trade Russell and will only listen on Larsson if there’s a substantial forward coming back.

    Yep.
    That’s pretty much how I see it.

  112. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    SwedishPoster:
    On a different note I wonder if it’s a coincidence that Holland was planning a scouting trip to Sweden this week when Skellefteå, BroBerglund’s team, plays a back to back vs the two teams where number one and two in the SHL scoring race plays? The guy leading is a 28 yo who’s 5’7 so unlikely to be a hard target, very skilled though and would probably look real good in the AHL.
    The guy who’s second, Mathias Bromé, is more interesting. It was talk about him heading to the NHL already this season but he ended up staying. Player who’s taken the long route but has developed into a very wellrounded player with smarts and skill. Not Nygård fast but a good skater. Is starting to shine in international games with team Sweden as well. 25 yo, winger, 6’0. By no means a guarantee he’d be able to stick in the NHL but worth a gamble so I hope my theory is correct and Holland is looking at him. Cheap depth that has a slight chance to be more than that.

    Very cool.

    Thanks SP!

    As I have for years, love me some SP.

  113. who says:

    JOFA: Remember Rattie?

    Are you comparing Rattie to Yamamo?
    I liked Rattie but he wasn’t close to the forechecker, or backchecker, that Yamamoto is. And Rattie was 24, and didn’t score at the same rates with McDavid that Yamamoto is with Draisaitl.
    Not a good comparable at all.

  114. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Durag:
    Vancouver has very little control over the fate of Dylan Demelo

    I love you.

    Just so you know.

  115. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    JOFA: Remember Rattie?

    And it was on this day, the year of our Gord February 12th, 2020 that Jaroslav Pouzar’s helmet jumped the shark.

  116. Lowetide says:

    Woodguy v2.0: JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY!!

    THE WAY I SHOW THE STANDINGS HAS TEAMS WITH THE SAME “POINTS OVER BETTMAN” WHEN ONE TEAM HAS A BETTER POINTS %.

    THE TEAM WITH THE BETTER POINTS % IS ****ALWAYS**** AHEAD IN THE MY STANDINGS LIKE EDM IS AHEAD OF VAN TODAY.

    THE TEAM WITH THE BETTER POINTS % ****ALWAYS**** HAS GAMES IN HAND SO I MAKE A NOTE THAT THE ORDER OF OF TEAMS IS DUE TO GP.

    WHEN THE POINTS PERCENTAGE IS THE SAME I USE REGULATIONS WINS AS THE TIE BREAK.

    WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!?!??!??!?!

    Perhaps anger management would help? Baseball’s system is shit. Once you get 3 games in hand, it’s 1.5 GBL which makes no sense. Stay the course, crazy humannnn.

  117. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0: JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY!!

    THE WAY I SHOW THE STANDINGS HAS TEAMS WITH THE SAME “POINTS OVER BETTMAN” WHEN ONE TEAM HAS A BETTER POINTS %.

    THE TEAM WITH THE BETTER POINTS % IS ****ALWAYS**** AHEAD IN THE MY STANDINGS LIKE EDM IS AHEAD OF VAN TODAY.

    THE TEAM WITH THE BETTER POINTS % ****ALWAYS**** HAS GAMES IN HAND SO I MAKE A NOTE THAT THE ORDER OF OF TEAMS IS DUE TO GP.

    WHEN THE POINTS PERCENTAGE IS THE SAME I USE REGULATIONS WINS AS THE TIE BREAK.

    WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!?!??!??!?!

    It’s not hard at all…just completely unnecessary.

    It doesn’t tell anything not expressed by points percentage.

    Now I have to go exchange my hearing aid.

  118. JimmyV1965 says:

    JOFA: A smarter call-up IMO. Better pure goal scorer. Better skater.More NHL games under his belt. Benson will never play 100 games in the bigs.Need to trade him ASAP.

    There were a lot of posters on this site that said Yama could never play in the NHL. Not sure who said it, but the comment I remember was he was built like a bird. I think that would temper bold predictions about Benson after two games and about 10 minutes in the show. Guess not.

  119. Harpers Hair says:

    Pastrnak hits the 40 goal mark along with Matthews.

  120. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Love me some Sleppy.

    Great shot.

    I bet he’d flourish under Tippett.

    Bet JP would too, but alas I don’t think that’s in the cards.

    Both have the same issue, not wanting anything but top 6.

  121. Reja says:

    JOFA: Remember Rattie?

    Who?

  122. JimmyV1965 says:

    leadfarmer: I think every teams focus is to defend the front of the net
    As long as he continues to go there he will be effective

    He’s not only in front of the net. He’s a menace along the wall. He’s digging pucks out of the corner. He’s frickin everywhere!!! The guy must lose 10lbs every game. He’s the anti-Lucic because he’s 140 lbs and wins the board battles with a good stick. Lucic is 240 and almost always loses the board battles.

  123. JimmyV1965 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY!!

    THE WAY I SHOW THE STANDINGS HAS TEAMS WITH THE SAME “POINTS OVER BETTMAN” WHEN ONE TEAM HAS A BETTER POINTS %.

    THE TEAM WITH THE BETTER POINTS % IS ****ALWAYS**** AHEAD IN THE MY STANDINGS LIKE EDM IS AHEAD OF VAN TODAY.

    THE TEAM WITH THE BETTER POINTS % ****ALWAYS**** HAS GAMES IN HAND SO I MAKE A NOTE THAT THE ORDER OF OF TEAMS IS DUE TO GP.

    WHEN THE POINTS PERCENTAGE IS THE SAME I USE REGULATIONS WINS AS THE TIE BREAK.

    WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!?!??!??!?!

    Maybe sort them by batting average. That’s how they do it in the MLB. Although I think they should sort it by RBI first.

  124. Scungilli Slushy says:

    JimmyV1965: He’s not only in front of the net. He’s a menace along the wall. He’s digging pucks out of the corner. He’s frickin everywhere!!! The guy must lose 10lbs every game. He’s the anti-Lucic because he’s 140 lbs and wins the board battles with a good stick. Lucic is 240 and almost always loses the board battles.

    Exactly.

    Certainly there were concerns about his size, but what matters is being productive.

    Yama May have more injuries, but he’s being a good player and that’s the run.

    Nothing is guaranteed to anyone. I hope Benson hits it as well, for as long as the two can do it.

  125. Scungilli Slushy says:

    JimmyV1965: He’s not only in front of the net. He’s a menace along the wall. He’s digging pucks out of the corner. He’s frickin everywhere!!! The guy must lose 10lbs every game. He’s the anti-Lucic because he’s 140 lbs and wins the board battles with a good stick. Lucic is 240 and almost always loses the board battles.

    What I worried about Yama, after he was drafted and looked at tape of his scoring, was that he was net front but because junior so many were very easy, no D challenging.

    He has translated his game well and still doing his thing. If may not continue but you couldn’t ask for more fairly.

  126. Woogie63 says:

    Trade Russell or Larsson before the second play-off run in +10 years.

    Isn’t the convention you 8+ dman to have a long run in the play-offs?

  127. Nit64 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY!!

    THE WAY I SHOW THE STANDINGS HAS TEAMS WITH THE SAME “POINTS OVER BETTMAN” WHEN ONE TEAM HAS A BETTER POINTS %.

    THE TEAM WITH THE BETTER POINTS % IS ****ALWAYS**** AHEAD IN THE MY STANDINGS LIKE EDM IS AHEAD OF VAN TODAY.

    THE TEAM WITH THE BETTER POINTS % ****ALWAYS**** HAS GAMES IN HAND SO I MAKE A NOTE THAT THE ORDER OF OF TEAMS IS DUE TO GP.

    WHEN THE POINTS PERCENTAGE IS THE SAME I USE REGULATIONS WINS AS THE TIE BREAK.

    WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!?!??!??!?!

    1. Thought you were sorting by pts over/under, then breaking on RW, ROW. Last tie breaker on games played. MY BAD ASSUMPTION,

    2. Was suggesting sorting by pt%, then breaking on RW and ROW. The Games played tiebreak never arises (due to the .0001 etc). TURNS OUT THAT’S EXACTLY YOUR PROCESS.

    3. HERE’S WHERE I LOST THE PLOT THIS AM. You (or the phone) had Minny ahead of Nashville this am. But pt% should have put Nashville ahead of Minny:

    Nashville .5364
    Minnesota .5357

    Checked out your procedure on hockey reference tonight. Slam dunk. They used all the decimals and did not go down to the extra RW for WPG:

    ARI 28 23 8 64 21 21-23-15 .483
    WPG 29 24 5 63 22 22-24-12 .483

    EASY PEASY. Back on track.

  128. jp says:

    godot10: Why would I have to eat crow on Yamamoto?All I ever said was that Yamamoto needed time in the minors (as almost every player of his type who matriculated from the WHL needed), and in September, I said to forget about him (and Bouchard) till January.

    Holland did exactly what I suggested with regard to Yamamoto.

    No need to eat crow on Yamamoto for continually articulating the right development path for him.

    It is a vindicatioin cake for me, not a crow cake.

    Your over top blaming of Kassian for every goal against he’s on ice for bothers me (last nights example was one of the fair criticisms). But I can back you up on the Yamamoto thing. There were a sizable group of posters claiming he was too small to succeed. You were not one of them and did call his path this year almost to the day.

  129. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Harpers Hair: Small sample size alert.

    Teams are seeing Yamamoto for the first time.

    As they get a read on him they will reduce his effectiveness.

    So teams have a defense against “has better edges than you and hounds the puck like a pissed off hornet in your car?”

  130. Nit64 says:

    Harpers Hair: It’s not hard at all…just completely unnecessary.

    It doesn’t tell anything not expressed by points percentage.

    Now I have to go exchange my hearing aid.

    Very clear that WG sorts by Points Percentage. Good way to sort, but not a great way to depict distance for the fans.

    WG’s approach is intuitive. Uses a sort order that can’t be cherry picked and a gives a great pts plus/minus leaderboard number that fans can follow.

    When the cameras jump from hole to hole golf fans compare players on different holes by the their over/under par number. Exactly what WG gives hockey fans comparing teams with different games played.

    • Woodguy v2.0 says:

      WG’s approach is intuitive. Uses a sort order that can’t be cherry picked and a gives a great pts plus/minus leaderboard number that fans can follow.

      You nailed *exactly* why I do it that way.

      I want everyone to have the information, but present it in a way that is very easy to digest.

      If I gave a list of teams and 3 decimal point % that were often separated by 0.002 then it wouldn’t mean anything.

      What I post means something, is truthful and makes sense.

  131. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Lowetide: Perhaps anger management would help? Baseball’s system is shit. Once you get 3 games in hand, it’s 1.5 GBL which makes no sense. Stay the course, crazy humannnn.

    L

    Nit64: 3. HERE’S WHERE I LOST THE PLOT THIS AM. You (or the phone) had Minny ahead of Nashville this am. But pt% should have put Nashville ahead of Minny:

    Nashville .5364
    Minnesota .5357

    Checked out your procedure on hockey reference tonight. Slam dunk. They used all the decimals and did not go down to the extra RW for WPG:

    ARI 28 23 8 64 21 21-23-15 .483
    WPG 29 24 5 63 22 22-24-12 .483

    EASY PEASY.

    Its entirely possible (and you have evidence that I did) that I didn’t do my usual tie-break thing for NSH and MIN.

    I usually only pay that close of attention at teams in the playoffs.

    You are also right that hockey-reference doesn’t tie break by regulation wins when pts % is the same. I do that manually.

    I think they tie-break by alphabetical order of acronym.

    I will pay attention to everyone now.

    Even the teams at the bottom.

  132. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Harpers Hair: It’s not hard at all…just completely unnecessary.

    It doesn’t tell anything not expressed by points percentage.

    Now I have to go exchange my hearing aid.

    You don’t even know why I’m mad.

    Ha!

    See my conversation with Nit64 if you want to understand.

  133. Wilde says:

    gonna be on time for the condors game I promise

  134. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Lowetide: Perhaps anger management would help? Baseball’s system is shit. Once you get 3 games in hand, it’s 1.5 GBL which makes no sense. Stay the course, crazy humannnn.

    I use anger as fuel.

  135. Nit64 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I think they tie-break by alphabetical order of acronym.

    LOL. Or could be random order from db query. Totally get now why you were jumping down to the G column on account of the 3 digits. I’m curious enough to check the next few mornings and see what they are actually sorting on. Had assumed they sorted on the underlying number (not the 3 digit display).

  136. Nit64 says:

    Lowetide:Baseball’s system is shit. Once you get 3 games in hand, it’s 1.5 GBL which makes no sense. Stay the course, crazy humannnn.

    MLB/NBA/NFL sort by PCT. Darcy sorts by PCT.

    PGA uses over/under PAR. Darcy uses over/under fake .500.

    He’s got them all surrounded.

    All Your Base Are Belong to Us.

  137. Reja says:

    I’m calling it right now Kings and Hawks both win in regulation tonight folks.

  138. Ice Sage says:

    Thanks Woodguy for your daily standing updates – I find them clear, unbiased and complete. They’re helpful for some water-cooler arguments with fans of other teams, too.
    Only thing better would be ranking the teams in afterlife Virgins, apparently.

  139. JOFA says:

    who: Are you comparing Rattie to Yamamo?
    I liked Rattie but he wasn’t close to the forechecker, or backchecker, that Yamamoto is. And Rattie was 24, and didn’t score at the same rates with McDavid that Yamamoto is with Draisaitl.
    Not a good comparable at all.

    Try to follow along 😉

  140. JOFA says:

    Reja: Who?

    Exactly 😉

  141. flyfish1168 says:

    Reja:
    I’m calling it right now Kings and Hawks both win in regulation tonight folks.

    Wouldn’t be too much to ask

  142. JOFA says:

    JimmyV1965: There were a lot of posters on this site that said Yama could never play in the NHL. Not sure who said it, but the comment I remember was he was built like a bird. I think that would temper bold predictions about Benson after two games and about 10 minutes in the show. Guess not.

    We wait!

  143. JOFA says:

    Woodguy v2.0: And it was on this day, the year of our Gord February 12th, 2020 that Jaroslav Pouzar’s helmet jumped the shark.

    Great lid😉

  144. Johnny skid says:

    Harpers Hair: Until opposing pitchers throw him the high hard fastball.

    It’s coming.

    Pettersson didn’t handle the high hard fastball to well the other night either.

  145. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0: So teams have a defense against “has better edges thanyou and hounds the puck like a pissed off hornet in your car?”

    Of course they do.
    Wait until he gets close to the boards and then knock him into next week.
    It’s exactly what they’re doing to Elias Pettterson but Petterson is far more talented and about 6 inches taller.

  146. Johnny skid says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Wait until he gets close to the boards and then knock him into next week.

    Matt Grzelcyk hit on poor old Pettersson is a perfect example of this.

  147. OriginalPouzar says:

    Granlund back for the Condors tonight – could see him recalled shortly.

  148. OriginalPouzar says:

    McLeod and Maksimov on the 2nd line tonight, at least to start – McLeod’s starting to produce which is a solid bonus – his offence likely won’t translate to the NHL level but can’t really develop in to an NHL forward without some AHL offence.

  149. G Money says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Hmmm.

    How do the cows feel about this?

  150. Harpers Hair says:

    Johnny skid: Matt Grzelcyk hit on poor old Pettersson is a perfect example of this.

    Yes it is.
    Yamamoto should expect that treatment too but since he’s a waif the consequences will likely be far more dire.

  151. Side says:

    Harpers Hair: Of course they do.
    Wait until he gets close to the boards and then knock him into next week.
    It’s exactly what they’re doing to Elias Petttersonbut Petterson is far more talented and about 6 inches taller.

    Elias Petterson does not compare to 6 feet 0.0472 inches and 194.007 pounds of Brogan Rafferty though.

  152. Bank Shot says:

    Harpers Hair: Of course they do.
    Wait until he gets close to the boards and then knock him into next week.
    It’s exactly what they’re doing to Elias Petttersonbut Petterson is far more talented and about 6 inches taller.

    Petterson has no heart. Continues on the tradition of the Canucks being a bunch of tinmen.

    Coming out clutch losing in every game 7. What a doomed francrys. Should probably jut move them to Seattle so there is some hope for the future.

  153. duct tape and foil says:

    Not many guys deserve the nickname Taz – but Yamo sure does the way he plays.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StG2u5qfFRg

  154. Wilde says:

    Bakersfield Condors vs. Ontario Reign; February 12th, 2020; first run (broken up by penalty)

    Gambardella – Granlund – Currie
    McLeod – Esposito – Maksimov
    Stukel – Malone – Koules
    Vesey – Starrett – Hebig

    Lowe – Bouchard
    Manning – Kulevich
    Samorukov – Persson

  155. Harpers Hair says:

    Bank Shot: Petterson has no heart. Continues on the tradition of the Canucks being a bunch of tinmen.

    Coming out clutch losing in every game 7. What a doomed francrys. Should probably jut move them to Seattle so there is some hope for the future.

    What a pathetic response.

  156. Johnny skid says:

    Harpers Hair: Yes it is.
    Yamamoto should expect that treatment too but since he’s a waif the consequences will likely be far more dire.

    Every player in league gets that treatment but Elias doesn’t seem to handle it well.

  157. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: Yes it is.
    Yamamoto should expect that treatment too but since he’s a waif the consequences will likely be far more dire.

    Is there anyone more waify in the NHL than Pettersson though? I’m not sure there is.

  158. Bank Shot says:

    Harpers Hair: What a pathetic response.

    Just keep crying over the Canucks and that black cloud hanging over them.

    Maybe if you kick enough rocks at the Oilers on this board you will finally feel okay.

  159. Harpers Hair says:

    Johnny skid: Every player in league gets that treatment but Elias doesn’t seem to handle it well.

    Yeah…PPG players are a dime a dozen.
    Yamamoto is trying to hit .5 PPG.

  160. Bank Shot says:

    Pettersson still has the coach check under his bed for monsters.

  161. Johnny skid says:

    Harpers Hair: Yeah…PPG players are a dime a dozen.
    Yamamoto is trying to hit .5 PPG.

    Not sure what that has to do with anything i said.

  162. jp says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Yamamoto is trying to hit .5 PPG.

    Had to think about that one for a second. But yeah, he’s not quite there for his career yet.

    This year he’d be 1st line on the Canucks it seems.

  163. leadfarmer says:

    If 5’10 defensemen are able to thrive in this league I have no doubts a 5’7 forward can excel

  164. drglen says:

    Dreiseitl has to be a frontrunner for the HART trophy this year actually.

    Glad Benson called up again..

  165. Reja says:

    Johnny skid: Every player in league gets that treatment but Elias doesn’t seem to handle it well.

    NHL is a dog eat dog league you show weakness and other teams players will pounce on it. If Elias and the Kanucks are crying about his treatment wait till the playoffs. The Sedins probably took him aside and told him to quit whining and putting a target on your back.

  166. Professor Q says:

    leadfarmer:
    If 5’10 defensemen are able to thrive in this league I have no doubts a 5’7 forward can excel

    If only Nathan Gerbe could rise again!

  167. Harpers Hair says:

    jp: Had to think about that one for a second. But yeah, he’s not quite there for his career yet.

    This year he’d be 1st line on the Canucks it seems.

    He would be on the second line in Utica.

  168. jp says:

    leadfarmer:
    If 5’10 defensemen are able to thrive in this league I have no doubts a 5’7 forward can excel

    +1

    Great point.

    As an aside, the Canucks are set up to test this kind of stuff out. They’re betting hard on cornerstones under 180 lbs. It will be interesting to see how it goes.

  169. Johnny skid says:

    Reja: NHL is a dog eat dog league you show weakness and other teams players will pounce on it. If Elias and the Kanucks are crying about his treatment wait till the playoffs. The Sedins probably took him aside and told him to quit whining and putting s target on your back.

    it’s sad that the twins wasted there careers in that city.

  170. Material Elvis says:

    jp: Is there anyone more waify in the NHL than Pettersson though? I’m not sure there is.

    His shoulders are narrower than the handlebars on a unicycle.

  171. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: He would be on the second line in Utica.

    I was just going based on his current scoring rate (0.93 PPG). I imagine his numbers would be pumped even more if he were playing with guys like Pettersson and Miller. He’s had an impressive debut.

  172. Bank Shot says:

    Wow. Nice move by Currie in the Bake. Stopped on the partial break afterwards. He is always one of the best Condors when I watch.

  173. Adam Wu says:

    I find all this speculation about young players being deliberately injured in career and potentially life threatening ways as if it was somehow something that is normal, business as usual, or, indeed, in the case of particular poster, practically relishing in the possibility, disturbing to say the least.

  174. Reja says:

    Johnny skid: it’s sad that the twins wasted there careers in that city.

    The moment they booed team Canada off the ice in 72 against the Commies cursed them for eternity.

  175. Wilde says:

    Bakersfield Condors vs. Ontario Reign; February 12th, 2020; after 20

    13CF-12CA
    5FF-9FA
    2GF-0GA

    Top F: Currie (2.21 Game Score)
    2 shot attempts, 3 shot assists
    1 goal, 1 assist
    5CF-1CA
    4FF-1FA
    2GF-0GA

    Top D: Samorukov (0.25 Game Score)
    0 shot attempts, 1 shot assist
    3CF-2CA
    3FF-2FA
    1GF-0GA

    • Wilde says:

      Bakersfield Condors vs. Ontario Reign; February 12th, 2020; after 40

      25CF-23CA
      15FF-16FA
      2GF-0GA

      Top F: Currie (2.42 Game Score)
      3 shot attempts, 5 shot assists
      1 goal, 1 assist
      9CF-4CA
      7FF-3FA
      2GF-0GA

      Top D: Persson (0.31 Game Score)
      2 shot attempts, 0 shot assists
      9CF-8CA
      8FF-4FA
      1GF-0GA

  176. Nit64 says:

    leadfarmer: I believe too small for the NHL
    Wasted draft pick was the refrain

    Draft night comments here trended towards upbeat:

    https://lowetide.ca/2017/06/23/oilers-at-22-kailer-yamamoto/

    MUNNY: Eric Kroetch‏ @ejk1987 · Only two skaters in the 2017 @ISShockey Draft Guide with Skating rating at “Elite”. Makar & Yamamoto are both. @EdmontonOilers @Avalanche (ISS Amateur Scout)
    HT JOE: I like the pick…
    LADIESLOVESMIDsays: Big fan of this pick…
    RUSS99: Solid pick…
    LEADFARMERsays: What a great pick…
    ALPINE: Great pick
    POUZAR: I’m no guru but I love this pick…
    REXLIBRIS: Quite pleased with this Kailer Yamamoto pick…
    THE TRADE GUY: A cool-assed pick y’all.
    GERTA RAUSS: …I like the pick today…

    And yes a few shorted the market on Yammer:

    HUNTER1909: This reminds me of when Sather used to draft players randomly, secure in the knowledge he had all the superstars he’d ever need, and could always trade for any player he liked.
    In other words, a completely wasted draft pick. 5’7″ and 146 pounds LOL puleeeeese…

    RICHARD S.S.: Absolute wasted pick – a Minature Smurf.

    Most prescient AND most ironic award goes to:

    Scungilli Slushy: …These flags have been raised here for years, but those who raise them don’t typically come back with a rubbing the nose in it 3-5 years later. Maybe we should.

    Well as LT likes to say “Here we are”. (710 google hits on lowetide.ca for that specific refrain, very long at that fair).

    Hi, Slushy. Maybe we should, indeed. But far better to point out you were also open-minded about the player:

    Scungilli Slushy: The difference here is Chiarelli has mentioned why he drafted him referring specifically to traits in his game that do make sense. It’s still a bigger long shot than others available.

  177. Nit64 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: ARI 28 23 8 64 21 21-23-15 .483
    WPG 29 24 5 63 22 22-24-12 .483

    I think they tie-break by alphabetical order of acronym.

    Caught them out. It’s a random tie break. Looked again tonight and it reversed.

    WPG 29 24 5 63 22 22-24-12 .483
    ARI 28 23 8 64 21 21-23-15 .483

    Looks like they only sorted on the three digits. Databases do not guarantee any ordering that you don’t code. Shot a note to the site to sports-reference suggesting sorting on more digits than they show. Small stuff, but they do a lot of sports so not impossible that they adjust it someday.,

  178. Reja says:

    Adam Wu:
    I find all this speculation about young players being deliberately injured in career and potentially life threatening ways as if it was somehow something that is normal, business as usual, or, indeed, in the case of particular poster, practically relishing in the possibility, disturbing to say the least.

    There’s always the Pickleball league but it doesn’t pay nearly as much as the NHL

  179. Harpers Hair says:

    Johnny skid: it’s sad that the twins wasted there careers in that city.

    How many Oiler players have wasted their careers in the past 30 years…and counting?
    Can you spell McDavid?

  180. Side says:

    Harpers Hair: How many Oiler players have wasted their careers in the past 30 years…and counting?
    Can you spell McDavid?

    Pathetic response.

  181. Harpers Hair says:

    Side: Pathetic response.

    Just the facts Ma’am.

  182. Side says:

    Harpers Hair: Just the facts Ma’am.

    The biggest travesty will be when the Canucks waste GOAT hockey player, Rogan Baffeety.

    Right?

  183. leadfarmer says:

    Nit64,

    I think they were upbeat on draft day as LT and myself beat his drum heavily before the draft but very soon thereafter started being more negative than positive.
    I don’t think there were many of us left that were high on him or Bear by this last offseason

  184. Victoria Oil says:

    Hawks out shooting the Nucks 30-11 but trail 2-0. Shit.

    Caggiula and Pearson just had a fight (Caggiula lost). Is it just me or has fighting gone up across the league after the BoA battles. Before that, it seemed there were very few fights this year. Now it looks like fighting has been rediscovered thanks to the Oilers and Phlegms

  185. tcho says:

    Chicago seriously kicking the Dys’ asses tonight everywhere but the scoreboard. Shots 34-13, NST giving a clear edge in every category. I wonder if that luck train stays on the rails.

  186. v4ance says:

    Side: The biggest travesty will be when the Canucks waste GOAT hockey player, Rogan Baffeety.

    Right?

    You should just jump to the eventual endpoint of the argument and point out we lead 5-0 in Cups.

    It doesn’t matter how many times you measure your Linden, it’s always going to be shorter than our Messier.

    Plus no matter how much you stroke your pair of twins, Henrik and Daniel will never be as gorgeous as Connor or Wayne

  187. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: How many Oiler players have wasted their careers in the past 30 years…and counting?
    Can you spell McDavid?

    Wait now..

    Has there ever been a Vancouver Canuck who didn’t waste his career?

  188. leadfarmer says:

    For supposedly not being a fan of the Dys our resident troll sure gets testy about anyone insulting them

  189. Reja says:

    jp: Wait now..

    Has there ever been a Vancouver Canuck who didn’t waste his career?

    Cam Neely.

  190. Harpers Hair says:

    jp: Wait now..

    Has there ever been a Vancouver Canuck who didn’t waste his career?

    Thousands of players have never won a cup.

    McDavid is one of them.

  191. Side says:

    Harpers Hair: Thousands of players have never won a cup.

    McDavid is one of them.

    Most of these players are Canucks, interestingly enough.

  192. Reja says:

    Hrudey is going to be crying on Burke’s pillow tonight.

  193. Harpers Hair says:

    More blood in the Streets of Bakersfield.
    Ontario wins 4-2.

  194. JimmyV1965 says:

    Pettersson and Yama are different players, from what I can see so far. Pettersson is more like McDavid and Hall. He drives play and is on top of the opposition, forcing them to make mistakes and often iniating contact, thereby causing opponents to scramble, resulting in holds and hookings and sometimes very bad and dirty hits. Yama doesn’t hold the puck as much. He darts into spots and he’s suddenly there, causing turnovers and forcing opponents to make quick decisions. It results in penalties, but I don’t think he has as much prolonged contact with the opposition. He doesn’t hold the puck as much as guys like pettersson and McDavid, or Drai or Hall. Maybe I’m wrong about this. It’s only been a few games I guess.

  195. JimmyV1965 says:

    Harpers Hair: He would be on the second line in Utica.

    What’s this I hear about a pathetic response.

  196. Harpers Hair says:

    JimmyV1965:
    Pettersson and Yama are different players, from what I can see so far. Pettersson is more like McDavid and Hall. He drives play and is on top of the opposition, forcing them to make mistakes and often iniating contact, thereby causing opponents to scramble, resulting in holds and hookings and sometimes very bad and dirty hits. Yama doesn’t hold the puck as much. He darts into spots and he’s suddenly there, causing turnovers and forcing opponents to make quick decisions. It results in penalties, but I don’t think he has as much prolonged contact with the opposition. He doesn’t hold the puck as much as guys like pettersson and McDavid, or Drai or Hall. Maybe I’m wrong about this. It’s only been a few games I guess.

    Petterson is a primary player who drives results.

    Yamamoto is a secondary player who can complement primary players.

  197. JimmyV1965 says:

    Markstrom is the best player on the Canucks thus year.

  198. Harpers Hair says:

    JimmyV1965:
    Markstrom is the best player on the Canucks thus year.

    Depending on the rest of the season, he may be the league MVP.

  199. Reja says:

    JimmyV1965:
    Pettersson and Yama are different players, from what I can see so far. Pettersson is more like McDavid and Hall. He drives play and is on top of the opposition, forcing them to make mistakes and often iniating contact, thereby causing opponents to scramble, resulting in holds and hookings and sometimes very bad and dirty hits. Yama doesn’t hold the puck as much. He darts into spots and he’s suddenly there, causing turnovers and forcing opponents to make quick decisions. It results in penalties, but I don’t think he has as much prolonged contact with the opposition. He doesn’t hold the puck as much as guys like pettersson and McDavid, or Drai or Hall. Maybe I’m wrong about this. It’s only been a few games I guess.

    Yamo definitely seems to thrive on the quick give-n-go in the soft areas with his two talented line mates.

  200. JimmyV1965 says:

    Harpers Hair: How many Oiler players have wasted their careers in the past 30 years…and counting?
    Can you spell McDavid?

    With McDavid and Drai, and the pieces we have on defence, it would take material incompetence by the GM not to create a contender. He’s had a Cup contender handed to him on a silver platter. We wait.

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