2019-20 Game 56: Blackhawks at Oilers

There’s a lot up in the air for the Oilers today, the roster is in a major state of flux. Connor McDavid’s knee, James Neal’s foot and goodness knows what else has the lineup status unknown as we speak. Given the choice between giving 97 an extra two days and turning this into a longer term issue, Oilers fans are all voting the same way. Make sure the captain is right. No exceptions.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Trying to make sense of Connor McDavid’s injury and Darnell Nurse’s new contract with Oilers
  • New Jonathan Willis: Faced with uncertainty, Oilers hedge their bet on Darnell Nurse
  • New Lowetide: Oilers sign Darnell Nurse
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers Observations: A Connor McDavid scare, Leon Draisaitl’s back, boosting the top line and helping Zack Kassian
  • Lowetide: The Oilers trading their first-round pick is a bad idea
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: After a ‘long road’ to the NHL, Tyler Benson’s Oilers debut holds extra meaning
  • Mitch Brown: The Video Room: How Oilers’ Kailer Yamamoto overcomes his small stature to make dynamic plays
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Emotionless’ Oilers fail yet again to match passion from a week ago
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: 15 potential trade targets for the Oilers before the 2020 deadline
  • Lowetide: Drilling down on right-handed centres for the Oilers to target before the trade deadline
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers trade suggestions: 50 proposals from readers, with our verdict
  • Lowetide: If fast is the new big, the Oilers are trending in a very good direction
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ 2016 draft and the value of waiting five years
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘I got a text from Wayne Gretzky that I’ve still got saved’: 8 years later, Sam Gagner reflects on his 8-point night.
  • Lowetide: What’s next for Tyler Benson and William Lagesson after being called up by the Oilers?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Now it’s over’: With a new contract in hand, Zack Kassian ready to move on after Matthew Tkachuk fight
  • Lowetide: Why the Oilers are more likely to trade Adam Larsson than Kris Russell
  • Lowetide: Oilers prospects Evan Bouchard and Tyler Benson deliver best minor league performances in 20 years
  • Jonathan Willis: An updated list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20
  • Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto gives Oilers a midseason spark, one of the best in team history
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers’ road forward — and perhaps to a Stanley Cup — requires trusting the kids on defence
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Deciding what to do with Darnell Nurse, Mike Smith, Tyler Benson and Evan Bouchard

OILERS AFTER 56 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 22-29-5, 49 points; goal differential -27
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 29-19-8, 66 points; goal differential +7
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 23-29-4, 50 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 24-27-5, 53 points; goal differential -21
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 29-20-6, 64 points; goal differential +3

A win tonight and this year’s model catches the 103-point playoff team in the standings. What’s more, the goal differential between those two teams is in the range and we can say with authority the 2019-20 Oilers are a good hockey club. On pace for 95 points.

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
  • Current 10 games: 3-2-0

It’s a tight start to this segment and the road trip to come is rife with monsters and outlaws. A win tonight means this 10-game segment will deliver no worse than 10 points (probably).

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 1-4-0, two points; goal differential -16
  • Oilers in February 2017: 2-3-0, four points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in February 2018: 1-3-1, three points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in February 2019: 1-2-2, four points; goal differential -7
  • Oilers in February 2020: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential +1

Crazy February runs all down the line, this year’s team is the only one in plus numbers goal differential. A win tonight would be nice, and would mean the home stand got some real traction right at the end.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: CAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: SJS, NAS, CHI (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: TBY, FLA, CAR (Expected 1-1-1)
  • At home to: BOS, MIN (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: LAK, ANA, VEG (Expected 2-1-0)
  • At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 2-2-0, four points in four games

I have the Oilers going 1-1-1 on the road trip, the team will face quality this week but that’s usually when Edmonton is at its best.

OILERS 2019-20

I spoke to Sam Gagner yesterday (here) about his multiple roles on the roster this season and he gave a great answer. Based on yesterday’s lines without McDavid the line will run Gaetan Haas between Gagner and Alex Chiasson.

It’s insincere to call it a big test with 97 not in the lineup. It’s Everest. A very big game tonight, the word “eek” will be used one way or another tomorrow. Edmonton could eek out a win, or we could all be saying eek by the middle of the first period. Such is the way of injury when the best player on the planet has a Charley horse.

TRADE DEADLINE

I’m more convinced than ever that the Oilers will be active at the trade deadline, it’s a matter of what’s available and the prices. I don’t think Holland will grab anyone too spendy, which means no Kreider and maybe no Pageau or Kovalchuk.

I think Holland’s plan for the forwards will not be apparent until summer. I’ll have an article up at The Athletic about it later today or tomorrow morning.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning we hit the ground running with a full boat, TSN1260. Jonathan Willis from The Athletic will talk Darnell Nurse’s contract, Connor McDavid’s injury and the week to come. Seth Rorabaugh from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review will talk about the big Jason Zucker deal pulled off by the Penguins last night. Corey Graham and Andrew Peard update us on the Oil Kings at 11, while we are lining up a CFL guest for free agency at 11:20. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Gerta Rauss says:

    atta boy Yam fry

    kid’s an NHL’er

  2. Oil2Oilers says:

    Yes that would be wise

  3. drglen says:

    that was a really beautiful pass from Klefbom to Taives.

  4. Yeti says:

    It’s curious how he doesn’t seem to realize he’s a bust.

  5. OilClog says:

    Smith looks like a 10yr old practicing his karate in the crease.

  6. jp says:

    Holy, didn’t see how good a save that was on the turnover. That was pretty big.

  7. OilClog says:

    As long as no one provides a stepping stool the sign behind the counter is out of sight and out of mind.

  8. OilClog says:

    Bulging Twine:
    What is wrong with Chiasson?

    This is who he is, probably best shape of his life lol. If they just want a big body to bounce pucks off of they should try Khaira if not Kassian.

  9. fishman says:

    He has to be the scariest goalie to cheer for. It always looks like any shot has a chance of beating him! Yikes…

  10. fishman says:

    Leafs beat Yotes in OT.

  11. docweb says:

    Only our 3rd game in attendance after giving up our Season tics last year…can confirm… lots of empty season and very quiet

  12. who says:

    Oil2Oilers:
    It might be that the Oilers powerplay is reliant on Connor’s godlike zone entries.

    You’re bang on.
    McDavid at 5 on 4 is an almost guaranteed zone entry. Thats a big reason why the powerplay is so good.

  13. jp says:

    Vegas down 0-4 after 2
    Jets down 0-2 after 2

    Out of town looking good so far if the Oilers can take care of business.

  14. Munny says:

    Well that was a period we can build on at least.

  15. Lowetide says:

    After One:

    2-2 tie
    13-11 Edmonton shots
    17-16 Chicago Corsi five on five
    ==

    Lots of mistakes on both sides, like a pre-season game. Oilers haven’t settled down in this one.

  16. tileguy says:

    No lateral move Smith

  17. fishman says:

    What the hell was Benning doing????

  18. LadiesloveSmid says:

    What the fuck is Benning doing there?

    Poor RNH

    If I was a betting man, I’d call that the GWG

  19. Munny says:

    Benning caught puck-watching

  20. jp says:

    That’s on Benning IMO. He bit on Kane shooting and let Boqvist get that pass across.

  21. jp says:

    WTF kind of save was that lol.

  22. Munny says:

    Sweet Potato from Yam Fry!!!!!

  23. jp says:

    Ha! Yamamoto again. Wow.

    That guy is seriously a player.

  24. LadiesloveSmid says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    What the fuck is Benning doing there?

    Poor RNH

    If I was a betting man, I’d call that the GWG

    Good thing I’m not a betting man

  25. Gerta Rauss says:

    Nugget

  26. jp says:

    The PP figured it out!

    Big game so far by the top line!

  27. Munny says:

    Nuggets!

  28. OilClog says:

    Nuge is a killer again!

  29. Munny says:

    So who took the under once they found out Connor was out?

  30. fishman says:

    Good idea to tighten up on D. Trying to win playing pond hockey without 97 may not be the best strategy. Man I love the way Yammer competes! Breath of fresh air!

  31. flyfish1168 says:

    Love the nuge

  32. jp says:

    That was a heck of a pass and a real nice shot by Moto.

  33. Munny says:

    Another great shift from L1

  34. fishman says:

    Chintzy penalty

  35. Leroy Draisdale says:

    well we knew we would be getting the next penalty

  36. jp says:

    Yeah I had a hard time remembering Barrasso too (I had Tom B…).

    But yeah, I wasn’t claiming generational. And I suppose yes both were more tandem than uncontested starter.

  37. fishman says:

    Good kill!

  38. fishman says:

    Stripes with game management

  39. Leroy Draisdale says:

    X2

  40. Munny says:

    What a backhand pass by Drai there

    #bobbyhullwrists

  41. StixMalone says:

    That penalty happens every night to McDavid and it’s never ever called….

  42. BONE207 says:

    Archibald…the modern day Marchant.

  43. Munny says:

    Great vision and lack of panic point on Sheahan to find Kassian in the slot.

    Good shift

  44. jp says:

    Archibald-Sheahan-Kassian have looked like a really effective 3rd line tonight. Solid game so far.

  45. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Bear with a plus D-zone shift there.

    One handed a Blackhawk to the ice in the right corner. Then scoots over to the left corner when the puck squirts free for a zone clear.

    Love seeing that poise.

  46. BONE207 says:

    Minnesota hatching the Pysankas. Scrambled eggs for dinner, Honey

  47. fishman says:

    Yep. Frustrating aspect of todays game. Oilers not likely to get another PP but Hawks very likely to get another soft call their way.

  48. Munny says:

    think that was Alex Nylander he threw down

  49. jp says:

    It feels weird to hear Caggiula’s name.

    Not really any emotions either way, it’s just weird.

  50. BONE207 says:

    I don’t miss his toothless face.

  51. fishman says:

    So that means we have a 1 st line, 3 rd line and two 4 th lines??

    Guess that’s better than 3 – 4 th lines!!!

  52. Durag says:

    4-3 after 2. That was the blueprint for winning without McDavid, right?

  53. BillyTheKidRanford says:

    OP,
    With 97 on Ir does that provide some additional cap $$ for the trade deadline?

  54. Gerta Rauss says:

    It’s just how Tippett drew it up

  55. Munny says:

    jp: Archibald-Sheahan-Kassian

    They’ve looked tremendous together. Sheahan has more offensive sense than I’ve been giving him credit for.

  56. Munny says:

    That’s not a sight I like to see.

    Be well, J-Bo.

  57. Munny says:

    Drai not going to agree with anything Geno says lol

  58. fishman says:

    Yep scary incident. Hope he is OK..

  59. Lowetide says:

    After TWO

    4-3 Edmonton (2-1 Edmonton in the second)
    26-23 Edmonton shots (13-11 in the second)
    30-30 Corsi five on five (16-14 Edmonton in the second)
    ==

    I wouldn’t bet a plug nickel on either team winning this, but it’s fabulous game to watch. I’ve been drinking water all night, watched the ARI-TOR game and just found out the Leafs won in OT. Thought the Coyotes won it. Huh.

    Enjoy tonight, ladies and men. This is a terrific, fun game. The coach may shoot people after the game.

  60. jp says:

    Munny: They’ve looked tremendous together.Sheahan has more offensive sense than I’ve been giving him credit for.

    Yeah our introduction to he and Archibald probably deflated our expectations.

    He/they aren’t world beaters but they look for the most part like solid 3rd liners. Holland did well to get them signed for next to nothing.

  61. Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville says:

    So, if the Oilers make the playoffs, does Connor’s injury make Drai the frontrunner for the Hart?

  62. Harpers Hair says:

    Lowetide:
    After TWO

    4-3 Edmonton (2-1 Edmonton in the second)
    26-23 Edmonton shots (13-11 in the second)
    30-30 Corsi five on five (16-14 Edmonton in the second)
    ==

    I wouldn’t bet a plug nickel on either team winning this, but it’s fabulous game to watch. I’ve been drinking water all night, watched the ARI-TOR game and just found out the Leafs won in OT. Thought the Coyotes won it. Huh.

    Enjoy tonight, ladies and men. This is a terrific, fun game. The coach may shoot people after the game.

    Arizona scored in OT but the goal was disallowed.

    Also, Jay Bouwmeester collapsed on the ice in Anaheim.

    The game was suspended with 8 minutes left in the first period.

  63. flyfish1168 says:

    Due to the medical emergency involving Blues defenseman Jay Bouwmeester, tonight’s game will be postponed and made up at a later date. Scary situation.

  64. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Come on Oilers, finish this off!

  65. teddyturnbuckle says:

    No call on Draisaitl brutal

  66. Ice Sage says:

    Hack-a-Drai in full force, it’s gonna be theme for a few weeks

  67. Munny says:

    Munny:
    That’s not a sight I like to see.

    Be well, J-Bo.

    Stauffer reported on the wireless that J-Bo was responsive and answering questions before entering the ambulance.

  68. fishman says:

    Bloody brutal that there was no call there! These refs are garbage.

  69. jp says:

    All the best to Bouwmeester. Definitely don’t want to see stuff like that.

  70. jp says:

    Munny: Stauffer reported on the wireless that J-Bo was responsive and answering questions before entering the ambulance.

    Great to hear.

    Kinda funny they suspended the game if he’s alert and stable.

    In any case, hopefully he’s OK.

  71. Munny says:

    Let’s keep in mind that St. Pierre is one of the two refs tonight.

    Voted worst ref in the League by a poll of the players.

  72. fishman says:

    Yep. That makes total sense now. Players know! Didn’t realize they did a poll like that.

  73. russ99 says:

    Oh jeez, hope Bouwmeester is ok.

    Also Brandon Perlini of Detroit took a skate to his face, got his nose pretty bad, real lucky it missed his eye.

    Scary stuff.

  74. drglen says:

    oilers hanging on… no call on drei

  75. Munny says:

    Some quotes fr players:

    “St. Pierre may be the most arrogant human being I’ve ever seen. It’s honestly like he hates the players. He treats everybody like shit.” — a Central Division player.

    “(St. Pierre) is the worst. Bar none. Bar. None.” — a Metro Division player.

    “I hate picking (St. Pierre) because he’ll probably be happy if he wins it.” — a Metro Division player.

  76. jp says:

    Ice Sage:
    Hack-a-Drai in full force, it’s gonna be theme for a few weeks

    Draisaitl gets his normal stuff plus everything that McDavid would have gotten. That’s how it works, right?

  77. Side says:

    The last russian doll, a.k.a average sized dachshund on skates, a.k.a Kailer Yamamoto is doing okay tonight.

  78. drglen says:

    gotta win some D zone draws here..

  79. Munny says:

    Only about half the players responded.

    St. Pierre got 42 percent of the votes

    The next “worst” ref?

    12 percent

  80. Munny says:

    drglen,

    Toews has been owning us on the dot tonight

  81. fishman says:

    Love that guy! Hope he can maintain that level of play..

  82. Ice Sage says:

    drglen,

    Yessiree, that’s the burden his broad Teutonic shoulders must bear

  83. Side says:

    He has been incredible.

  84. Munny says:

    Oilers never score empty netters. Never ever.

  85. fishman says:

    Nail biter time!!!!!

  86. Gerta Rauss says:

    whew

    that’ a big win for these guys

    another 2 in the bank

  87. Munny says:

    Ha!!

    Drai Ribs to finish tonight’s meal!

  88. fishman says:

    I see what you did there! hee hee hee!

  89. drglen says:

    We Wein!!

  90. Ice Sage says:

    Munny:
    Oilers never score empty netters. Never ever.

    Nicely done

  91. Gerta Rauss says:

    a measly 4 point night for Drai

  92. jp says:

    Great game.

    Huge deal to get a win without McDavid.

    And the Blackhawks looked porous, but they were 6-2-2 coming in.

    Solid. And important points to move up relative to a lot of the competition

  93. russ99 says:

    Nice win boys, whole team stepped up big.

    Read up on Bouwmeester, man, thats really scary. Hope he has a speedy recovery.

  94. jm363561 says:

    What a win. Nerves shredded.

  95. Munny says:

    lol, the Gords really made me wait for that one.

  96. Ice Sage says:

    I’ll be OK (if I’m alive) to watch Drai and McD in their Kane/Toews twilight 10 years on, as long as they collect a few cups in the interim

  97. OriginalPouzar says:

    Massive win – just huge.

    Point gained in Arizona – huge gap there.

    Two points gained on Vegas and the Jets.

    Drai with a massive gain in the minds of Hart trophy voters.

  98. flyfish1168 says:

    I was going Koekkoek throughout this game

  99. geowal says:

    Well that was fun!

  100. Munny says:

    That game was far more entertaining than I expected.

    Especially after the checking job they did on us in the first meeting.

    Not a work of art, but lots of speed and chances.

  101. Rebillled says:

    I’ll admit.

    Thought we were screwed at 2-1.

    Great job fellers.

  102. geowal says:

    Munny:
    Drai not going to agree with anything Geno says lol

    I loved that interview. Some healthy snark in there.

  103. Munny says:

    Rebillled:
    I’ll admit.

    Thought we were screwed at 2-1.

    Great job fellers.

    The old, fragile Oilers would’ve caved into an endless series of tire fires after that shortie by Serious.

  104. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Well timed.

  105. Munny says:

    So keeping the Drai line together worked at home, with last change.

    Do they keep them together on the road?

  106. rickithebear says:

    Next 12gm:
    9 road, 3 home

  107. jp says:

    Shots 18-5 in the 3rd. 41SA total.

    Smith sure shut the door in the 3rd tonight. Gotta give the man his due.

  108. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Draisaitl just a case study in how wrong we usually are.

    I wanted them to draft Bennett.

    I would’ve traded him in a deal for Subban/Larsson in Hall’s place in 2016.

    $8.5M seemed like $2M too much.

    He’s got an 8P lead on McDavid in the Art Ross race.

    This road trip will be tough as hell.

  109. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Munny,

    If Nuge can tread water with faceoffs there would appear to be no need to double shift centres with a hot change.

    Otherwise, we might see more of the third line taking on the toughs and d-zone draws.

  110. rickithebear says:

    Just watched CHI 3rd goal.
    Klefbom at Chi net.
    Free path 2 on 1 to Klefbom def side.

    **History shows you cannot trust a trailing Fwd to prevent an open shot.
    This differs from analysis based on non open / closed differentiation.
    You here Debrusk spout the old non 2nd half of Goal diff theory philosophy.

    Poor SOE will do a micro analysis like debrusk!

    This is not the 80’s boys!

  111. geowal says:

    So you’re saying the road trip will be rather easy and they’ll do well! Since you’re wrong about things. I’ll take it.

  112. Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville says:

    flyfish1168,

    For koko puffs?

  113. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Nuge had Kane covered as best he could, the open man was Boqvist. Benning was watching Kane and left (rover) Boqvist stone alone in the slot.

    Your analysis is flat.

    Note: I like Benning, but he made a costly mistake.

  114. Boil-in-the-Oil says:

    Very good. And . . . I love me some Drai ribs
    What a fun game to watch. Always (usually) enjoy Oilers/Hawks games.

  115. Professor Q says:

    Tertiary scoring.

    Imagine Yamamoto from the beginning of the season, competing for the Calder?

  116. Munny says:

    Kucherov and Cirelli both hurt in the TBL game tonight.

    Huge for us if they’re not able to go Thursday.

  117. rickithebear says:

    What is Open shot Philosophy.
    1. Do not Pinch so their is a free path to undefended Rover side.

    2. If their is a 2 on 1 with free path to undefended side.
    A. High % chance of open shot. Kane high high %
    B. Force as many chances of failure to generate open shot.
    i. Play to have ability to force forward when trailing forward close to greatly reduce free target time and % of open shot.
    ii. A forced pass prevents open shot.
    iii. Try to break – up, interfere with pass, to prevent open shot.
    iii. Pass complete, we hope 2 nd option of 2 on 1 fails to generate open shot.

    Every time their is an extra Sequence in events. Higher probability of failure!

    100% Klefboms (Rovers) fault. 2D -1G and trailing fwd have a much easier time defending 2 opposition players driving goal.

  118. Bank Shot says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Nuge had Kane covered as best he could, the open man was Boqvist.Benning was watching Kane and left (rover) Boqvist stone alone in the slot.

    Your analysis is flat.

    Note:I like Benning, but he made a costly mistake.

    He’s right that Klefbom created the sequence.

    Chicago is pretty top heavy just like the Oilers. The Oilers should play more risk adverse when Kane is on the ice, and try the risky stuff when he’s sitting.

  119. rickithebear says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    Benning takes Blomquist!
    Kane angle is not changed by Benning holding to his position.
    Open unchallenged (faced up) open shot from elite goal scorer is allowed.
    Extremely high% Kane buries it.
    Low risk of fauilure.

    Non differentiated open/ closed shot probability is silly improper analytics!

    Your failure is living in 1960’s thought rather than using the
    1. X, Y differentiation of hockey surface ( homeplate theory)
    And
    2. Y,Z differentiation of Net Elevation surface (open and closed space (shot) theory)

    Silly Binary Boy!

  120. rickithebear says:

    Bank Shot: He’s right that Klefbom created the sequence.

    Chicago is pretty top heavy just like the Oilers. The Oilers should play more risk adverse when Kane is on the ice, and try the risky stuff when he’s sitting.

    1.881% of top 10 evg/60 (319) skaters are Dmen.
    At best Rovers Abandoning homeplate is 98.119% wrong.
    Sometimes it 100% wrong!

    Enough for tonight.

    bank shot.
    Thanks for understanding the start of SOE.

  121. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Professor Q,

    But was he ready at that time?

    I’m in the camp that believes he needed time to get some momentum established before ramping up, vs. being yo-yo’d as before.

  122. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Munny,

    Isn’t Stamkos hurt too? All of whom would be an incredible boon to our fortunes if they were out of the TBL lineup.

  123. Munny says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    He has been but they’re hoping to have him back for Thursday. Day-to-day at this point.

    But you’re right, would be a big help to our squad if Stammer can’t go either.

  124. who says:

    rickithebear:
    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    Benning takes Blomquist!
    Kane angle is not changed by Benning holding to his position.
    Open unchallenged (faced up) open shot from elite goal scorer is allowed.
    Extremely high% Kane buries it.
    Low risk of fauilure.

    Non differentiated open/ closed shot probability is silly improper analytics!

    Your failure is living in 1960’s thought rather than using the
    1. X, Y differentiation of hockey surface ( homeplate theory)
    And
    2. Y,Z differentiation of Net Elevation surface (open and closed space (shot) theory)

    Silly Binary Boy!

    Benning DID NOT take Boquist!
    That’s the big problem on the 3rd goal. Backchecker had the puck carrier angled off. All Benning has to do is cover Boquist.

  125. v4ance says:

    jp:
    Shots 18-5 in the 3rd. 41SA total.

    Smith sure shut the door in the 3rd tonight. Gotta give the man his due.

    It’s not a usual thing, playing horrible for two periods in net and still pulling out the win with one good period. All three goals against Smith went straight in on passes crossing the Royal road or the Ricki-box from shots 5 to 10 feet out.

    Lehner deserved better. All 4 goals on him were second chance rebounds from 5 feet or less. His defence hung him out to dry and yet he still kept the game close. He made that one gorgeous save on Yamamoto to deny the hattie in the 3rd making the exact save that Smith couldn’t make in the 1st 2 periods.

    Honestly if we switched Lehner for Smith in our net, we’d have won 6-1. Smith battled and got the win but he doesn’t inspire any confidence to me.

  126. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Agree to disagree.

    Benning hesitated and didn’t take his man or stick or puck in the slot. At all. Had he tried I would assign no blame to him and beg it off on the odds.

    Kane didn’t bury it. It was a sublime feed from Kane (who was being well covered by RNH) directly across the crease to a wide open Boqvist that led to the tap in goal.

    I think we’re watching different things.

  127. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Care to cite any of these numbers with reputable sources?

  128. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Bank Shot,

    I guess I just disagree with your statement in general.

    To pass up a perceived advantage for a clean break at the line when you see it because of one player’s presence is to ignore the potential.

    There were further errors that lead to the goal.

    It’s no more all Benning’s fault than it is Kelfbom’s or Nuge’s. Or Smith.

    They all played a role.

    To single out one player because that’s your hobby horse is just tacky.

    #roverderangementsyndrome

  129. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Glad I’m not the only one seeing it that way.

  130. v4ance says:

    Re-watched all three goals multiple times against Smith from multiple angles and all were horribly played by our goalie.

    The first, Smith is a fraction late to react to Kane’s cross slot pass and just waves his blocker horizontally below Saad’s shot. He could have pushed harder across and gotten more of his body into the path of the shot and raised his arm an inch to stop the shot.

    The second is almost a replay of the first in that he is late to push across but this time it’s right to left instead of left to right. Ryan Carpenter takes the puck close to the boards and takes a step to the right faceoff dot. From that spot he is looking straight across at Toews telegraphing the play. From that angle he really has no option other than a pass and Smith should have read that as the most likeliest and dangerous option on the 2 on 1. Toews’s one timer actually went off Smith’s pad under his glove because Smith AGAIN didn’t push across hard to get his body in front of the shot. 5 inches more to his left and that’s right into his belly and a save. It would have been a tough save but lots of NHL goalies make that play 70% of the time or more. Lehner made that save on Kailer in the 3rd to deny the hattrick!

    The 3rd goal, Kane has the puck on his backhand and is in no position to make a high percentage shot skating thru the left faceoff dot. Benning should have intercepted the pass but it was a great pass from Kane just outside the sweep of Benning’s stick. Once the pass was going across, Smith flopped forward while sliding to his right and the puck went into the middle of the net. He needed to slide across upright and cover some of the middle of the net. but he guessed that the puck was going low and only covered the bottom 10% along the ice.

    I felt all three would have been tough reaction saves and I thought all three were within an NHL goalie’s capability. Smith owes Draisaitl’s line supper for outscoring his mistakes

  131. who says:

    v4ance:
    Re-watched all three goals multiple times against Smith from multiple angles and all were horribly played by our goalie.

    The first, Smith is a fraction late to react to Kane’s cross slot pass and just waves his blocker horizontally below Saad’s shot.He could have pushed harder across and gotten more of his body into the path of the shot and raised his arm an inch to stop the shot.

    The second is almost a replay of the first in that he is late to push across but this time it’s right to left instead of left to right.Ryan Carpenter takes the puck close to the boards and takes a step to the right faceoff dot.From that spot he is looking straight across at Toews telegraphing the play.From that angle he really has no option other than a pass and Smith should have read that as the most likeliest and dangerous option on the 2 on 1. Toews’s one timer actually went off Smith’s pad under his glove because Smith AGAIN didn’t push across hard to get his body in front of the shot. 5 inches more to his left and that’s right into his belly and a save.It would have been a tough save but lots of NHL goalies make that play 70% of the time or more.Lehner made that save on Kailer in the 3rd to deny the hattrick!

    The 3rd goal, Kane has the puck on his backhand and is in no position to make a high percentage shot skating thru the left faceoff dot.Benning should have intercepted the pass but it was a great pass from Kane just outside the sweep of Benning’s stick.Once the pass was going across, Smith flopped forward while sliding to his right and the puck went into the middle of the net.He needed to slide across upright and cover some of the middle of the net. but he guessed that the puck was going low and only covered the bottom 10% along the ice.

    I felt all three would have been tough reaction saves and I thought all three were within an NHL goalie’s capability.Smith owes Draisaitl’s line supper for outscoring his mistakes

    I think Koskinen is the better goalie but let’s give Smith a little credit here.
    He stopped 38 of 41. The 3 that beat him were one time shots from passes through the slot. That’s a pretty solid game.
    Unless you expect him to stop them all.

  132. jp says:

    v4ance: It’s not a usual thing, playing horrible for two periods in net and still pulling out the win with one good period.All three goals against Smith went straight in on passes crossing the Royal road or the Ricki-box from shots 5 to 10 feet out.

    Lehner deserved better.All 4 goals on him were second chance rebounds from 5 feet or less.His defence hung him out to dry and yet he still kept the game close.He made that one gorgeous save on Yamamoto to deny the hattie in the 3rd making the exact save that Smith couldn’t make in the 1st 2 periods.

    Honesstly if we switched Lehner for Smith in our net, we’d have won 6-1.Smith battled and got the win but he doesn’t inspire any confidence to me.

    As you like.

    The Oilers were outshot (31-41) and out chanced (22-27). They had one more HD chance than the Hawks (9-8). Maybe Lehner deserved better but Smith had a .927 SV% and got the win.

    I’m not sure what to say if you thought he was horrible and should have had those goals against.

  133. OilClog says:

    Silly blind bear, Benning did nothing but stand there watching, if he simply tied up the open man the events would bring forth a different result.

    It’s the 2020, don’t let the opposition to play with the puck untouched infront of the net or you’re most likely to be digging the puck out of your net.

    Smith had a far greater expected out come to make a save on Kane during that sequence with angles and positioning to he or any goalie would ever have trying to stop the cross crease one timer that is uninterrupted.

    But hey you think Larsson should be playing 1st pair, Manning 2nd pair, and Klef on the 3rd. It’s clear the numbers you preach have not alignment with the actual game of hockey. One thing hockey will always need, eyes.

  134. v4ance says:

    I thought his save percentage was goosed by the 18 shots taken in the third. Many of those were more of the Eakins variety… low percentage from the points hoping to generate rebounds with not enough traffic actually getting to the net. Most of those hit him low in the pads where he’s still kinda strong.

    I thought an average NHL goalie should have saved 2 of the 3 goals against but an average NHL goalie could have saved all three.

    You’re not seeing Smith has absolutely no ability to move laterally to make a save anymore? If I was an opposing video coach, I’d put 50 of the most recent goals against Smith to show how horribly he’s playing attempts at his net where he has to move sideways to make a save. I’d guesstimate 75% or more that beat him are ones where he takes the bottom of the net and lets goals go into the top 1/2 of the net

  135. Munny says:

    Bank Shot: He’s right that Klefbom created the sequence.

    Actually it was Nuge that began the sequence. Klef is caught deep because when he goes low to support Nuge in the corner (and knowing that Yama is already sitting on the boards). Nuge makes a back pass into coverage.

    That’s why Nuge was skating so hard on the back check. His giveaway.

    I mean, if we’re going back to the seeds.

    Benning still played it poorly, and had the last chance (other than Smith) to prevent the goal. And he knows he sucked, watch his reaction after the goal. Has “Aww, frack” written all over it.

  136. Munny says:

    There were some point blank attempts from in close among those 18 shots too. I can clearly remember Debrincat having one.

    There were seven goals. Neither goalie was lights out.

  137. godot10 says:

    Grant Fuhr was a starter in the NHL at 19 a few months after he was drafted, and was excellent.
    Tom Barrasso was a starter in the NHL at 18, but wasn’t particularly special.
    Dan Blackburn was a starter in the NHL at 18 (for the Rangers) but got hurt, and never recovered.

  138. v4ance says:

    Yes but my point was ALL 4 of the Oiler goals were point blank rebound goals. The Oilers played a great team game in front of Smith and provided more than enough run support grinding out goals from the greasy areas.

    They obviously wanted to prove that the team was more than just “McDavid” and a bunch of plugs.

    All 3 of the goals scored against Smith were on rush chances where average NHL goalies make the save 70% of the time based on historical data.

  139. Munny says:

    Adam Larsson very quietly had a very good game tonight.

  140. godot10 says:

    Professor Q:
    Tertiary scoring.

    Imagine Yamamoto from the beginning of the season, competing for the Calder?

    He wasn’t ready at the start of the season. It would have been repeating the mistake of the last two years. It likely would have been a wasted year.

  141. OriginalPouzar says:

    Professor Q:
    Tertiary scoring.

    Imagine Yamamoto from the beginning of the season, competing for the Calder?

    This Yamamoto, yes, but I would posit that Kailer wasn’t ready to be this player at the start of the season and needed the AHL time. He was also hurt and missed most of the material camp.

  142. OriginalPouzar says:

    McDavid with further imaging in TO – just a deep charley horse – nothing structural.

    Per John Shannon

  143. jp says:

    v4ance:
    I thought his save percentage was goosed by the 18 shots taken in the third.Many of those were more of the Eakins variety… low percentage from the points hoping to generate rebounds with not enough traffic actually getting to the net.Most of those hit him low in the pads where he’s still kinda strong.

    I thought an average NHL goalie should have saved 2 of the 3 goals against but an average NHL goalie could have saved all three.

    You’re not seeing Smith has absolutely no ability to move laterally to make a save anymore?If I was an opposing video coach, I’d put 50 of the most recent goals against Smith to show how horribly he’s playing attempts at his net where he has to move sideways to make a save.I’d guesstimate 75% or more that beat him are ones where he takes the bottom of the net and lets goals go into the top 1/2 of the net

    I thought he made a number of difficult saves in the 3rd and before.

    And no, I don’t agree that an average goalie should have allowed 0 or 1 goals on 41 shots last night. Not at all.

    Sure, Smith looks bad. I’ve not said he’s a “good goalie”, or even “was the better goalie last night” or anything like that. But I did/do think he had a good game. I don’t really care how he looked doing it.

    Incidentally, his results have been sustained good for a while now. He’s 8-0-2 in 10 starts in 2020 (2.67GAA, .917SV%). Koskinen is 1-3-0 over the same span (3.27, .892). I still *think Koskinen is the better goalie, but he’s really struggled for 2 months now. He’s only had a .900 SV% in 2 of his 8 starts going back to Dec. 21st (3.69, .879).

    Smith has saved the Oilers bacon since the turn of the calendar and been an important part of them getting back to the top of the division. Even if all it’s taken is him being competent, he’s done that.

  144. jp says:

    Munny:
    Adam Larsson very quietly had a very good game tonight.

    Noticed that. Good to see.

    Larsson returning to his previous levels of play/results would be huge on so many levels for the Oilers.

  145. OriginalPouzar says:

    Larsson returning to 2017 Larsson would be huge for this team.

    He had a good stretch of being that player back in December but has reverted to inconsistent.

    Here is hoping we see 2017 Adam night in and night out.

  146. Professor Q says:

    godot10: He wasn’t ready at the start of the season. It would have been repeating the mistake of the last two years. It likely would have been a wasted year.

    OriginalPouzar: This Yamamoto, yes, but I would posit that Kailer wasn’t ready to be this player at the start of the season and needed the AHL time. He was also hurt and missed most of the material camp.

    I obviously know this. Hence the “imagine” part. I think he should be considered anyway, under the Landeskog Rule. Alas, he plays for Edmonton.

  147. Professor Q says:

    No, he wasn’t, and I was one of the supporters of Bakersfield at the time. I was simply dreaming up a scenario.

    I am a believer in Ken Holland and having the young ones play in the AHL and other leagues for various reasons.

  148. jonrmcleod says:

    drglen:
    Dear Oilers.Please just decline the next PP.

    This didn’t age well.

  149. jonrmcleod says:

    Professor Q:
    Tertiary scoring.

    Imagine Yamamoto from the beginning of the season, competing for the Calder?

    Is Yamamoto still classified as a rookie?

  150. Lowetide says:

    New for The Athletic: Why Connor McDavid’s injury is unlikely to alter Ken Holland’s trade deadline plan for the Oilers

    https://theathletic.com/1597872/2020/02/12/lowetide-why-connor-mcdavids-injury-is-unlikely-to-alter-ken-hollands-trade-deadline-plan-for-the-oilers/

  151. jp says:

    Good point. He is not. And would not have been if he’d been with the Oilers since October.

  152. dangilitis says:

    geowal,

    If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right

  153. Professor Q says:

    My bad, he had played 26 games already, one more than the threshold.

    Okay, I get it. I screwed up and touched some nerves with a simple thought, unintentionally.

    Everyone can go back to ganging up on someone else now.

  154. Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville says:

    Professor Q:
    My bad, he had played 26 games already, one more than the threshold.

    Okay, I get it. I screwed up and touched some nerves with a simple thought, unintentionally.

    Everyone can go back to ganging up on someone else now.

    Haha, this made me lol.

  155. Yeti says:

    Professor Q: Everyone can go back to ganging up on someone else now.

    Well, what the hell am I meant to do with this voodoo effigy of you now? You’re so damned selfish.

  156. OriginalPouzar says:

    They mentioned a call-up to be made yesterday afternoon that would meet them in Florida but it never came.

    My guess is they are waiting on an assessment of Granlund’s health. He missed last game with injury (undisclosed to my knowledge) but yesterday Woody did say he may be available for tonight’s game.

    If he’s ready to go, I think he’s the call-up.

  157. godot10 says:

    I believe so. He hasn’t played 25 NHL games in either of his previous NHL seasons. I do not believe the cumulative total matters.

  158. jp says:

    godot10:
    I believe so.He hasn’t played 25 NHL games in either of his previous NHL seasons.I do not believe the cumulative total matters.

    Yamamoto played 9 and 17 in the two seasons before this one so is ineligible by both total GP and the 2 X 6.

    The rule is 25 total games or at least 6 games in 2 different season, to be ineligible for the Calder (if memory serves, but pretty sure)

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