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Scungilli Slushy

Nice article LT. I don’t follow how pairing Walman with Bouch is spreading the wealth. It seems like doubling up on players with the same skill sets and possibly deficiencies. To me Walman adds much better puck moving to 2 pair than Nurse, and at this point Ekholm still works on 1 pair and is a better defender than Walman to back up Bouch

Scungilli Slushy

It could work very well. My concern would be that Walman and Bouch have a similar game (JW being more physical and meaner) and their defensive lapses might coincide, same issue as with Nurse

DevilsLettuce

If Nuge is 3C why would Oilers bother with a Dickinson signing?

Let Dickinson walk and wait to see if Kirby Brother of Patty Dach ends up on the open market.

cowboy bill

Because they aren’t seriously considering Nuge at 3c and Dickinson would be better. I still see Nuge on the third line but not at center.

jtblack

well, nobody can say the Oilers Org is a boring one.

Buckle up, sounds like this year will be quite the ride!

cowboy bill

It might be fascinating seeing a Babcock coached Oiler team, especially if they don’t buy in.

godot10

My gut feeling is that the Oilers are unfixable at the moment. “I find my lack of faith comforting.”

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I am not convinced that Babcock is hired, I’ll believe when I see it. I suspect that there is pressure being applied on Vegas behind the scenes and that Cassidy will be announced as HC within the month.

What is the best case scenario with Darnell Nurse? $2.5 million retained for Seeler and a 3rd? Going back 2 years, I’ve always thought Philly would be his landing spot.

What do y’all think the best outcome out of each of the Draft & Silly Season will be?

Lenny

It honestly doesnt seem worth it even just for the issues they may have recruiting. They need good bottom 6/bottom 4 role players. These are the players that Babcock seems to bully… why would they want to come here

Scungilli Slushy

If Seeler is the return there should be no need for retention. Nurse has a lot more value and they have a ton of cap. Bowman’s moves have been such it’s hard to predict what the return might be. Complete opposite to Holland, and he usually gets extra players

OriginalPouzar

The org has been very reluctant over the years to move Nuge down the the third line. Has he ever been given a stretch as 3C? I don’t recall.

I think his placement is impossible to know as we just don’t know how much cap is available after the Nurse trade to obtain a 3C with the need to updgrade 3LD. I mean, if somehow Noah Cates comes back in the trade, great, but it seems unlikely. Maybe it’s Sean C. but I hope for a smaller bad cap contract.

I don’t think they fade Nuge on PP1 – all the numbers, year after year after year show the PP struggles when he’s out. If anyone gets faded I think it’s Hyman.

Knob had this weird thing about Nuge not being able to play 3rd line as they needed that line after power plays – bullocks!

In any event, I heard rumblings of another hand/wrist injury for Nuge mid-season. That does line up as he a had a very strong first third and then fell off a cliff.

I expect a better 5 on 5 season from Nuge, no matter where he plays.

Scungilli Slushy

I think the concern with Nuge at 3C is he isn’t the strongest skater, solid edges but not great with speed and first steps. Which is probably why he’s so much better on the PP than 5v5 throughout his career outside of one season. Babcock it seems has the C come down low to support the breakout, suits strong skating

OriginalPouzar

I have been operating that it’s a foregone conclusion that Coffey is not back as a coach.

I suspect that, presuming it’s Babcock, DJ Smith will join him (and, if it’s Cassidy, Kevin Dean).

Lenny

Gregor has said he sees Coffey as the next PoHO. I dont see him as an AGM grinding away with the younger guys.

Lenny

I agree with that too. Not sure where he fits, it is crowded

cowboy bill

Truth be told Jackson should be gone.

Scungilli Slushy

Special advisor is a better gig than POHO. He will get paid well and isn’t tied to specific things to do or a chain of command. Just his opinions and the fun stuff

smellyglove

Ponder this paradox:

Lots of questionable moves over the years, including allegations that the Big Dogs (McDavid and Drai) have been making management-type calls or approvals including on coaching, player usage, and possibly even acquisitions. The inmates are running the asylum, so to speak. They need a shakeup and a real hard ass coach to come in to disrupt and boss the bench.

On the other hand, retaining McDavid is priority #1. He has all the cards on whether or not he will be here in a year or two. To kill his confidence or make large shifts without consulting him is folly. Some rumours have 97+ in the camp of “bring Babcock in.”

How do we reconcile this?

Scungilli Slushy

I think it’s just wait and see. I thought it was more likely that Babcock got derailed but it seems that he might not. My guess is that if nobody hires Cassidy Babcock lasts the season at most and Cassidy ends up with the Oilers at some stage

There is nothing to indicate Babcock has changed, and it remains to be seen if he can coach a team like this and not stifle it’s strengths. Connor and Leon aren’t Datsyuk and Zetterberg and there is no Lidstrom and it’s 20 years later

cowboy bill

There’s a Bouchard it will be interesting to see how Babcock and Bouchard relate.
It’s sounding like it’s going to be Babcock after all. I wonder if it will only be one year to start. I sure hope Cassidy is in the picture at some point.

Scungilli Slushy

Man that concerns me. I don’t know if Babcock will see the value Bouch brings even with his lapses. Hopefully he watched the Worlds and saw that

Scungilli Slushy

It occurs to me that Bouch may have been the biggest factor in the two finals. He was apparently pretty banged up these playoffs. Makar was also and the Avs were not the same team, even before MacKinnon got hurt

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