I’m Left, You’re Right, She’s Gone

The Edmonton Oilers went into a tough building without Connor McDavid and played a strong game last night. Mistakes cost them and there wasn’t enough talent to outscore the errors. It’s no fun to lose, but there were encouraging signs. Things to work on, there’s plenty the coach can point to as positives as the team winds towards Sunrise.

THE ATHLETIC!


The Athletic
 Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Lowetide: Making sense of the Oilers defensive depth chart for the stretch run and the summer
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman:It was reactionary’: Oilers’ Zack Kassian addresses alleged kick; Lightning depth strikes; and Kailer Yamamoto’s big game
  • Jonathan Willis: 10 overlooked trade targets for the Oilers before the 2020 deadline
  • Lowetide: Why Connor McDavid’s injury is unlikely to alter Ken Holland’s trade deadline plan for the Oilers
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘We want to take it as a challenge’: Oilers survive first game without McDavid as room for improvement remains
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Trying to make sense of Connor McDavid’s injury and Darnell Nurse’s new contract with Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: Faced with uncertainty, Oilers hedge their bet on Darnell Nurse
  • Lowetide: Oilers sign Darnell Nurse
  • Lowetide: The Oilers trading their first-round pick is a bad idea
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: 15 potential trade targets for the Oilers before the 2020 deadline
  • Lowetide: Drilling down on right-handed centres for the Oilers to target before the trade deadline
  • Lowetide: If fast is the new big, the Oilers are trending in a very good direction
  • Lowetide: Why the Oilers are more likely to trade Adam Larsson than Kris Russell
  • Lowetide: Oilers prospects Evan Bouchard and Tyler Benson deliver best minor league performances in 20 years
  • Jonathan Willis: An updated list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20

OILERS AFTER 57 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 22-29-6, 50 points; goal differential -27
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 30-19-8, 68 points; goal differential +10
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 23-30-4, 50 points; goal differential -34
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 24-28-5, 53 points; goal differential -23
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 30-21-6, 66 points; goal differential +3

A good road game keeps the goal differential in the black and we’re next up at Sunrise for the Florida Panthers Saturday afternoon. Oilers current pace would land them 82gp, 43-30-9, 95 points. That should be a playoff number.

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
  • Current 10 games: 4-3-0

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 2-4-0, four points; goal differential -14
  • Oilers in February 2017: 3-3-0, six points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2018: 1-4-1, three points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2019: 1-3-2, four points; goal differential -8
  • Oilers in February 2020: 3-3-0, six points; goal differential +1

The two playoff teams are now in a flat tie. As I recall, Edmonton had a welcoming schedule after the deadline as several opponents were sellers. One hopes that remains true.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: CAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: SJS, NAS, CHI (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: TBY, FLA, CAR (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: BOS, MIN (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: LAK, ANA, VEG (Expected 2-1-0)
  • At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 3-3-0, six points in six games

In truth, with the McDavid injury added to the degree of difficulty, a point per game this month would be a victory. Stay in the race, that’s the key, until the captain returns around the deadline. Oilers 1-1 without 97.

OILERS 2019-20

Caleb Jones scored the only goal, Mike Smith had a fine evening and there were some star-crossed moments for Jean Beliveau. All numbers NST and everything is five on five.

LINE 1 Nuge-Leon Draisaitl-Kailer Yamamoto played 18:25, going 11-19 Corsi, 7-14 shots, 1-0 goals and 1-3 HDSC. It was easily Edmonton’s best line.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins picked up another assist, three shots on goal, two takeaways and a mostly strong performance without the puck. Got beat a couple of times by talented Lightning forwards but no harm and solid otherwise. Leon Draisaitl had an assist, three takeaways, two costly giveaways (one on the PP, the other with the net empty). Won eight of 17 on the dot. A tough game from a great player who also contributed in a big way. Single events can have major impact while also being single events. Kailer Yamamoto skated miles, worked hard, didn’t get the results. He’s so smart. Don’t change a thing, young man.

LINE 2 Zack Kassian-Riley Sheahan-Josh Archibald played 11:21, going 10-12 Corsi, 6-8 shots, no goals and 2-4 HDSC.

Zack Kassian is going to be hearing from player safety again, and Tyler Benson should get a good night’s sleep in Florida. Kassian had three shots, two HDSC and can help a team when he isn’t suspended. Riley Sheahan had one shot (HDSC) and won six of 14 faceoffs. Josh Archibald played a rambunctious game.

LINE 3 Sam Gagner-Gaetan Haas-Alex Chiasson played 9:36, going 11-7 Corsi, 6-5 shots, no goals and 4-1 HDSC.

Sam Gagner had three shots, a takeaway and gave his line some good looks in the offensive zone. Gaetan Haas had two shots, two HDSC and won three of eight in the faceoff circle. Alex Chiasson had two shots, two HDSC, and a takeaway. He had a couple of good looks on the power play as well. One of those cashes, Oilers get a point.

LINE 4 Jujhar Khaira-Colby Cave-Patrick Russell played 7:55, going 4-9 Corsi, 4-5 shots, 0-1 goals and 2-2 HDSC.

Jujhar Khaira had a giveaway and transported the puck a couple of times, but was not a major factor. Colby Cave had two shots, HDSC, drew a penalty and won two of nine on the dot. He didn’t do anything to sway Patrick Maroon from knocking Mike Smith’s stick out of his hand and scoring from behind the net. Patrick Russell worked like a demon again, had one shot and one HDSC. Russell’s inability to get the puck out under control started the sequence that ended in the 1-0 goal.

PAIRING ONE Darnell Nurse-Ethan Bear played 18:09, 15-22 Corsi, 10-17 shots, no goals, 1-4 HDSC. Spent 9:58 with Draisaitl.

Darnell Nurse had four shots, blocked a shot and played a physical game. He was loose on coverage a couple of times but also suppressed danger. It was one of those games, you could see good and bad in most every Oilers player last night. Ethan Bear had a takeaway and several solid outlet passes. He also hammered a shot late that I thought tied the game (absolutely drilled it).

PAIRING TWO Oscar Klefbom-Adam Larsson played 15:34, going 12-12 Corsi, 7-8 shots, 0-1 goals and 5-3 HDSC.

Oscar Klefbom had two shots, a giveaway, one impressive rush and a curious decision on the SH goal (he needed to be the trailer until the zone was won). Also made a strange play on the puck with an empty net (leading to the third goal against) when the puck came back to the point (used his rump instead of his hand/shoulder and made an awkward attempt at the puck). Adam Larsson had one shot, created some havoc and make a couple of nice defensive plays. Maroon was his man on the first goal, Larsson going walkabout.

PAIRING THREE Caleb Jones and Matt Benning played 10:13, going 6-9 Corsi, 4-6 shots, no goals, 3-2 HDSC. Jones scored his goal while paired with Bear.

Caleb Jones scored a goal, two shots, blocked a shot, settled the play a few times. Good game. Matt Benning chased the play quite a bit, that was the theme for much of the evening for all three pairs.

GOALIE Mike Smith stopped 34 of 36, .944. He been quality since January 1. He got caught up with Maroon, lost his stick and his post on what was a weak goal (no help from Cave or Larsson, though).

KASSIAN

Zack Kassian hurts the team when he is suspended and word today that it’s an in person meeting means a longer suspension is likely. This puts the organization in a tough spot, but I don’t think Ken Holland makes a trade today.

Tyler Benson is the obvious replacement and I think getting him into games on the road is a good idea. A guess at the lines would be Nuge-Leon-KY, Chiasson-Sheahan-Archibald, Benson-Haas-Gagner and Khaira-Cave-Russell. We wait.

BAKERSFIELD 2019-20

Condors season is bleeding out, troops sent to Edmonton (in yellow) represent the best of the best. It’s a cruel reality for minor league teams. Bakersfield plays at home tomorrow night against the Colorado Eagles.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy fun Friday show to wrap up the week, TSN 1260 beginning at 10 this morning. Steve Lansky from Big Mouth Sports joins me to talk Zack Kassian suspension and how to make a mega-project like the NHL trade deadline work. Ryan Holt, PBP broadcaster from the Bakersfield Condors talks about a trying stretch run and Murat Ates from The Athletic will discuss the new Paul Maurice contract. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    WC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    COL 16
    STL 17
    DAL 14

    Poorific
    VAN 11
    EDM 9
    VGP 7

    Wildcard
    CGY 7
    NSH 5

    Out of playoffs
    WPG 5
    MIN 4
    ARI 4
    CHI 1
    SJS -4
    ANA -4
    LAK -13

    -Pysankas win tie-break via regulation wins
    -NSH, MIN, and SJS win tie-break via less gp
    -I feel dirty figuring out tie-breaks for the dross of the Poorific. Fucking Nit64.

    Relevant games tonight:

    SJS (+130) at WPG (-150) – I think there’s a hair of value on SJS because fading Hellybuyck has put my daughter through college.

  2. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    EC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Atlantic
    BOS 24
    TBY 23
    TOR 10

    Metropolitan
    WSH 22
    PIT 19
    NYI 16

    Wildcard
    CBJ 13
    PHI 13

    Out of playoffs
    CAR 11
    FLA 9
    NYR 6
    MTL 2
    BUF 2
    NJD -4
    OTT -8
    DET -27

    -Made a tidy sum betting against TOR yesterday getting +125 ml (including OT) and +195 3 way (regulation only) on DAL

    Relevant wildcard games tonight:

    -NYR (+125) at CBJ (-145) – Elvis plays tonight. .930 all situations, 25gp. He’s the real deal. Not a lot of value though.

    -NJD (+190) at CAR (-230) – NJD played last night, but line is *really* heavy on CAR. NJD is worth half a unit, but no more imo.

  3. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Stauffer made noises yesterday on his show that “he wouldn’t be surprised if McDavid was back before the current injury timeline”

    My guess is he comes back to EDM when the team comes back from the roadie.

    Tests out the leg, doesn’t go vs BOS on Wednesday but does vs MIN on Friday.

    That would be one day short of 2 weeks on an injury that was given “a 2-3 week timeline”

    Maybe he does come back vs BOS?

    *knocks on wood*

  4. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Hard to complain about Klefbom and his great contract but Last nights game is a good example of why he isn’t an elite d man. He seems to make ? bone headed plays every few games that don’t make any sense. Usually an ill advised pinch early in a game. Last night his cover on the Leon power play entry was mind boggling.

  5. Wonder Llama says:

    After the first 10-14 minutes I thought the Oilers battled back hard. Actually kinda proud of their effort last night. Shame about the shortie.

    McDavid is the fastest human alive with the puck, but is there anyone faster on the forecheck than Yamamoto? He’s moving up the rankings of my favorite 21st century Oilers real fast.

  6. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    I’m busy all morning and won’t be able to post much so might as well light the fire now…….

    What an incredibly dumb thing Kassian did.

    No excuse.

    Waiting for Godot to do “I told you so” posts all day.

  7. flyfish1168 says:

    I’m angry at Zack for losing his brain. You can do what he did and if you do there are too many camera to get away with it. He deserves a suspension.

    On the other hand I can’t help but reiterate my frustration with parros as the person doling out the penalties. NHL has always had a problem with consistency. Bias now comes into question how parros handles these situations.

  8. hunter1909 says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    I’m busy all day so might as well light the fire now…….

    What an incredibly dumb thing Kassian did.

    No excuse.

    Waiting for Godot to do “I told you so” posts all day.

    Maybe he wants to make sure he’s fresh for the playoffs.

  9. JOFA says:

    Currie deserves a call-up IMO.

  10. hunter1909 says:

    Last nights game easiest Oilers loss ever at least for the season.

    Team looked pretty decent vs an outstanding Tampa Bolts.

  11. hunter1909 says:

    JOFA:
    Currie deserves a call-up IMO.

    Deserving’s got nothing to do with it.

  12. hunter1909 says:

    flyfish1168:
    I’m angry at Zack for losing his brain. You can do what he did and if you do there are too many camera to get away with it. He deserves a suspension.

    On the other hand I can’t help but reiterate my frustration with parros as the person doling out the penalties. NHL has always had a problem with consistency. Bias now comes into question how parros handles these situations.

    Since they want to have a pug dishing out justice I nominate none other than the genial giant vegan George Laraque to take over from Paros.

    Diversity baby.

  13. Litke 94 says:

    What a stinger last night. I really thought we were going to be able to squeeze that game into OT. F***. We never do very good in Tampa lol.

    The loss hurts less since I probably would have expected a loss even with McDavid, but those would have been a nice couple of points. Regardless, the team didn’t get blown out of the water, and a similar effort on Saturday/Sunday should be good enough for 2 points.

    Re: Kassian. Initially I was hoping there was another angle that could show his skate being caught in a jersey or something… doesn’t appear to be the case. Dumb move X 10.

  14. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    teddyturnbuckle:
    Hard to complain about Klefbom and his great contract but Last nights game is a good example of why he isn’t an elite d man. He seems to make bone headed plays every few games that don’t make any sense.Usually an ill advised pinch early in a game.Last night his cover on the Leon power play entry was mind boggling.

    He’s not supposed to be “covering” there.

  15. JOFA says:

    hunter1909: Deserving’s got nothing to do with it.

    Says Benson?

  16. Paulie says:

    This season has gone about as well as could be expected in terms of where the team sits now. But thinking about the team before the season began, how many of us would have predicted (a) Bear emerges as top 2 D; (4) Yama emerges as top 6 W; (c) Jones emerges as #6 LD. (c) wasn’t hard to see coming I guess, but (a) and (b) were probably long shots. Bear seemed plausible as a #3 RD candidate, but he has exceed expectations. There was a hope that Yama could be a middle or top 6 forward, I suppose, but he’s gone out and greatly exceeded expectations. This is about as well as things could have gone from a developmental point of view. Now, if Bouch can step in next year, that would be massive. Even if the team misses out on the playoffs, this will have still been a very successful year.

  17. flyfish1168 says:

    I feel they should compile all of the previous suspensions and then see how each one was handled. Then work out the median value of each incident and us that as a road map. Wording is each suspension can be used also. Example when they suspended Torres for predator hits. It seems simple and parros has looked and sounded awkward. Time for change.

  18. Jethro Tull says:

    What Kass did was dumb.

    Worst thing about it is that it’s extremely low hanging fruit for Parros to suspend him.

    What I’d like to see is for him to take a stand against head hunting like Gio or the other asshole.

    I kicked a guy in the chest with my skate once. I fell down, landed on my back and an opponent took the opportunity to put his stick in my crotch, then lean on it. Puck was miles away, it was just a friendly scrimmage at the old Med Hat arena.

    He tried fighting me not on the ice, but in the Captain’s Cabin afterwards. I’m a lover, not a fighter, but I was righteous, y’all. Jethro for the win. We played darts later after his teammates explained that you don’t take things off the ice…..it was the blurst of times.

  19. Litke 94 says:

    He gives the opponents almost no time with the puck. Lightning quick and determined to win every inch of the ice in the offensive zone. And he’s pretty damn good at winning puck battles too!

  20. LadiesloveSmid says:

    teddyturnbuckle:
    Hard to complain about Klefbom and his great contract but Last nights game is a good example of why he isn’t an elite d man. He seems to make bone headed plays every few games that don’t make any sense.Usually an ill advised pinch early in a game.Last night his cover on the Leon power play entry was mind boggling.

    I imagine that’s how they line up the entries in practice. Leon biffed that entry.

  21. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Does anyone remember Parise kicking Corey Potter in the chest in 2013?

    I don’t know that I’m particularly upset by that play. Maybe give him 2 games.

  22. Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville says:

    I agree Kassian’s behavior isn’t ok and should be punished, just from the simple fact that kicking in any way with a skate on should be punished, because so much bad can come of it and you don’t want to set a precedent of it being ok, ever.

    That being said, and I’m in no way a huge Kassian fan, I still get mad at him every time I remember him smashing Gagner’s face in, but I’ve watched that replay about 10 times now and I don’t even see any real kind of kick, it actually looks more to me like he knows it’s potentially dangerous and is more like gingerly just trying to push off to help separate himself to get back into the play.

    Again, not saying it’s ok, but, IMHO no intent to injure and to my eye, didn’t look aggressive on any level. I think for precedent sake, a suspension is required, but anything more than 5 games I think is too much.

  23. stephen sheps says:

    Woodguy v2.0: SJS (+130) at WPG (-150) – I think there’s a hair of value on SJS because fading Hellybuyck has put my daughter through college.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAFwgCvDdzw

    you’re welcome

  24. JimmyV1965 says:

    flyfish1168:
    I’m angry at Zack for losing his brain. You can do what he did and if you do there are too many camera to get away with it. He deserves a suspension.

    On the other hand I can’t help but reiterate my frustration with parros as the person doling out the penalties. NHL has always had a problem with consistency. Bias now comes into question how parros handles these situations.

    It’s the inconsistency that’s maddening. Benning has received two concussions from Evander Kane. Both were dirty plays. He did not receive a penalty for either or supplemental discipline.

  25. hunter1909 says:

    Litke 94: The loss hurts less since I probably would have expected a loss even with McDavid, but those would have been a nice couple of points. Regardless, the team didn’t get blown out of the water, and a similar effort on Saturday/Sunday should be good enough for 2 points.

    That’s the spirit!

    Re Kassian:

    Cesare Maniago NHL goalie once kicked a fan between the legs with his skates on while being ushered off ice after some on ice incident. Incredibly the irate fan had been trying to get at Maniago. How many games does Kassian get suspended for doing that?

  26. hunter1909 says:

    JimmyV1965: It’s the inconsistency that’s maddening.

    I thought you were mentioning the inconsistency in Kassian’s overall game and I wanted to say he’s been plenty consistently invisible lately, unless it’s getting in NHL trouble in a mirror image of his turbulant past. Fortunately he’s still in control of himself. Who knows lol

  27. godot10 says:

    I think his people will tell him why it is important to take the two extra days off. One has to make sure the contusion is completely healed, because repetitive contusions to the same spot is dangerous. Really, the only risky thing about a contusion is not letting it fully heal, and getting another one in the same spot, particularly when the contusion is near the ligament attachments to the bone.

    Disclosure: I am not a medical doctor or physiotherapist.

  28. JimmyV1965 says:

    hunter1909: I thought you were mentioning the inconsistency in Kassian’s overall game and I wanted to say he’s been plenty consistently invisible lately, unless it’s getting in NHL trouble in a mirror image of his turbulant past. Fortunately he’s still in control of himself. Who knows lol

    I did see him back checking behind the Oiler net last night, one time. That’s progress. Lol. The contract really does suck.

  29. Reja says:

    Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville:
    I agree Kassian’s behavior isn’t ok and should be punished,just from the simple fact that kicking in any way with a skate on should be punished, because so much bad can come of it and you don’t want to set a precedent of it being ok, ever.

    That being said,and I’m in no way a huge Kassian fan,I still get mad at him every time I remember him smashing Gagner’s face in,but I’ve watched that replay about 10 times now and I don’t even see any real kind of kick, it actually looks more to me like he knows it’s potentially dangerous and is more like gingerly just trying to push off to help separate himself to get back into the play.

    Again,not saying it’s ok, but, IMHO no intent to injure and to my eye,didn’t look aggressive on any level.I think for precedent sake,a suspension is required,but anything more than 5 games I think is too much.

    Zero intent to harm a nothing burger but with all these outraged people lobbying for a suspension he’ll probably get a couple.

  30. teddyturnbuckle says:

    LadiesloveSmid: I imagine that’s how they line up the entries in practice. Leon biffed that entry.

    Didn’t like the half second delay on the play. He didn’t react in time once it was turned over but it was a terrible entry by Leon.

  31. godot10 says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    I’m busy all morning and won’t be able to post much so might as well light the fire now…….

    What an incredibly dumb thing Kassian did.

    No excuse.

    Waiting for Godot to do “I told you so” posts all day.

    Kassian’s post game comments about the incident don’t match the video. He better correct his false memory before the in-person hearing.

    It was NOT reactionary.

    AND it is IRRELEVANT if it was reactionary or not.

    It was just effing #braindead.

  32. teddyturnbuckle says:

    I’m surprised they haven’t gone to Nuge for the power play entries.

  33. kgo says:

    Skinner got 2 games for identical play in 2013…as a multiple offender I see Kass getting 4 or 5 games…it’s a stupid fucking play but luckily nobody got hurt

  34. Bag of Pucks says:

    hunter1909,

    That’s a great story about Maniago. Never heard that before.

  35. godot10 says:

    What does the video show?

    Cernak couldn’t get up because Kassian was holding his stick. Both of Kassian’s legs were free. Kassian then released Cernak’s stick, looked at him, and kicked him.

    It wasn’t reactionary. It wasn’t even accidentally-on-purpose. It was intentional.

    I think Kassian will be fortunate if it is only five games.

  36. dustrock says:

    Reja: Zero intent to harm a nothing burger but with all these outraged people lobbying for a suspension he’ll probably get a couple.

    The problem is that full intent isn’t required, just being reckless as to the consequences.

    Obviously he didn’t try to kick Cernak in the throat or something, it was more of a push with his skate.

    But what if the other Oiler had moved or Cernak slipped and cut his face or his wrist on the skate?

    You can’t be on your back and have your skate up like that. It’s a stupid play and if it was Yamamoto or Draisaitl or Klefbom maybe they’d get a game.

    But Kassian is going to get 5 and he should.

    He should also fucking play better, but that’s a whole ‘nother story.

  37. Harpers Hair says:

    Bruce Boudreau fired in Minnesota.

  38. Faustkarz says:

    JOFA,

    What does Currie do to deserve a call-up over Benson?

  39. Bag of Pucks says:

    Last night’s game is a great litmus test for Holland on his roster. TBay’s bottom 6 is littered with gritty fast Fs who are all a threat to score. One solid line after another coming over the boards. No reprieve.

    Ken’s done a great job airlifting in serviceable vets to stop the bleeding in the bottom 6. But the Lightning show the way to do it right. Build the pipeline and let it flow.

    And credit where due. Mike Smith has been a great add. I’ve never been sold on Brian Elliott as he’s typically choked when handed the starter role aside from that one good year. Smith is reminding me a little of Luongo this season. Vet leadership from the G. He’s a competitor and the Oil seemed a liitle ‘quiet’ as a team. Good fit.

  40. JOFA says:

    Faustkarz:
    JOFA,

    What does Currie do to deserve a call-up over Benson?

    Score 20 goals?

  41. Andy Dufresne says:

    I noticed the Kassian incident as it occured live and was surprised the commentators didnt focus in on it at all.

    Dumb action. Retaliatory or not. Reactionary or not.

    I didnt see/notice if the kick made contact or not.

    Kass deserves a 1 game suspension. Dangerous play.

    His history / case file may cause it to be 2 games.

  42. Twinkle Mo' Fo' Toes says:

    Kassian has been all kinds of bad since he signed that contract, last night he was brutal. Aside from the horrible plays in his own zone, I was most upset by his decision to stay on the ice for close to 90 seconds to selfishly spend 40 or so seconds with Nuge and Leon, where he was barely in the play.

    I figure Kassian will get 5 games, but wouldn’t be surprised if it was 7 or 8. So dumb.

    I thought Haas was great last night, he needs more speed on wings.

    Finally, I don’t know who else feels the same way, but Leon drives me crazy with his extra-long shifts, especially during the PP (but also 5v5) I see him more than anyone getting in trouble at the end of his frequent “double shifts”. This played a huge part in the shorty. Klef had also been out for 90+ seconds. I think the PP would be more effective and less leaky if the Oil would switch everyone out after 1 minute (how often have they actually scored after being out there for 60 seconds or more, I doubt it is more than 10% and I bet they’ve given up more goals than scored on the PP after 50 seconds).

  43. Oilman99 says:

    Lightning missing two superstars, this was an opportunity lost to end the losing streak at TBay.

  44. Andy Dufresne says:

    Well thats #@$@%$ !

    Thats a @$#%@^@% decision.

    Ill be #6@%# if they dont @%#%$^# recognize all the @^#%$^ that Boudreaus been #%$^$#^ facing.

    #BoudreauBeepedOut

  45. Reja says:

    dustrock: The problem is that full intent isn’t required, just being reckless as to the consequences.

    Obviously he didn’t try to kick Cernak in the throat or something, it was more of a push with his skate.

    But what if the other Oiler had moved or Cernak slipped and cut his face or his wrist on the skate?

    You can’t be on your back and have your skate up like that.It’s a stupid play and if it was Yamamoto or Draisaitl or Klefbom maybe they’d get a game.

    But Kassian is going to get 5 and he should.

    He should also fucking play better, but that’s a whole ‘nother story.

    There was zero intent to harm. What I see this morning is people don’t like Kass. They don’t like his contract. They don’t like the way he plays. They didn’t like his previous lifestyle. They most definitely didn’t like when he mocked Gagner. It’s a nothing burger if it was Mitch Mariner are 500 other players in the league it would be forgotten already.

  46. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Bruce Boudreau fired in Minnesota.

    But what about their strength of schedule.

  47. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – Yeah the Kassian thing (well things now). If he was on another team everyone be up in arms: Fandom does funny things to a teams perspective of their own players.

    – It’s just gross stuff: he needs a suspension and to get his head out his ass

    – He’s cost the team points with his antics. I don’t like it

  48. Bag of Pucks says:

    Jethro Tull:
    What Kass did was dumb.

    Worst thing about it is that it’s extremely low hanging fruit for Parros to suspend him.

    What I’d like to see is for him to take a stand against head hunting like Gio or the other asshole.

    I kicked a guy in the chest with my skate once. I fell down, landed on my back and an opponent took the opportunity to put his stick in my crotch, then lean on it. Puck was miles away, it was just a friendly scrimmage at the old Med Hat arena.

    He tried fighting me not on the ice, but in the Captain’s Cabin afterwards. I’m a lover, not a fighter, but I was righteous, y’all. Jethro for the win. We played darts later after his teammates explained that you don’t take things off the ice…..it was the blurst of times.

    Darts fixes everything. Good stuff!

    A forechecker gave me the can opener once when i had my back to him on a retrieval. Tripped me into the boards pretty hard. I responded with a stick swing to his head that was full on Glenn Anderson in its recklessness. Luckily just hit his shoulder. I got chirpped as I was going to the box and challenged their bench to a fight. Was literally seeing red at that point.

    The two funny parts. We had a really good fighter on our team and he laughed at how psycho I’d gone and told me never to challenge the entire team again! He didn’t need the extra aggravation in his life. And one of my teammates had a new girlfriend that had come to watch him play for the first time. Apparently she was shocked at the violence in that game and lobbied him to quit. A failed puck bunny. Who knew?

    Sometimes shit happens in the heat of the moment.

    Not excusing Kass’s behaviour btw. Just brings back fun memories.

  49. Twinkle Mo' Fo' Toes says:

    Reja,

    Kassian’s play, contract, history with Gagner is irrelevant. His stupid action is relevant and with his suspension this year already, he will get 5 games minimum. Kicking a player has no place in the game, it is not “nothing”. It was a dangerous act for no apparent reason other than to hurt his opponent and using razor-sharp skate blades being propelled by the most powerful muscles of a very strong human being could have had a very serious outcome. He is not kicking a guy with Crocs FFS.

  50. Harpers Hair says:

    Reja: But what about their strength of schedule.

    6th easiest remaining schedule.

    I wonder if they’ll get the Dead Coach Bounce?

    In other news, MacKinnon one point behind McDavid in the scoring race.

    Tick tock.

  51. godot10 says:

    Reja: There was zero intent to harm.

    That is not what the video shows.

  52. LadiesloveSmid says:

    The beauty of half of your forward group being AHL quality is that when one is suspended, you can slot another one in from Bako no problem!

  53. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair: 6th easiest remainingschedule.

    I wonder if they’ll get the Dead Coach Bounce?

    In other news, MacKinnon one point behind McDavid in the scoring race.

    Tick tock.

    I bet your giggling with glee that Mcdavid’s out?

  54. YKOil says:

    Kassian kick was stupid. Regardless of anything else, stupid. Signed too soon I guess. If they were still negotiating the contract he just lost $200k+ a year.

    Fan of Kassian, not impressed at all today.

  55. Reja says:

    godot10: That is not what the video shows.

    You would have to be a drama queen to believe Kassian violently kicked, stomped intentionally, tried to neck tie the bolt player. Where’s Greta when you need her?

  56. Jethro Tull says:

    Curling in the Peace River pulp spiel this weekend. Anyone about?

  57. frjohnk says:

    Mike Smith sure is a goalie who loves roller coasters.
    He was 0-3-2 from Nov 30 to Jan 2.

    Since then 8-1-1.

    On the season he is 15-10-4. 2.93 GAA. .904 Sv %. Oilers have 34 points in the 29 games he has started.

    Koskinen is 15-11-2. 2.91 GAA. .909 Sv%.

    From hockey reference both goalies have 48% quality start %. Smith has had 7 really bad starts, Koskinen has had 5.

    I still Koskinen is the more consistent goalie and better goalie but looking at the overall numbers, the gap is not much.

    I see that Talbot has a .924 sv % and is above league average in most goalie metrics. Where the hell was this guy last year?

  58. dustrock says:

    Reja: There was zero intent to harm.

    That’s an opinion. We don’t know what he intended with his action.

    The point is that it doesn’t matter if he intended to harm him or not. It’;s a reckless action.

    I’m sure Bertuzzi didn’t intend to injure Moore with his sucker punch.

  59. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Reja: Zero intent to harm a nothing burger but with all these outraged people lobbying for a suspension he’ll probably get a couple.

    – Intent doesn’t matter as much as what the actual injury was for the practical purpose of dishing out punishment in the NHL. If heaven forbid the skate went up and carved his face after glancing off his chest, he’s be out a lot more: that’s just how it works.

    – Re intent: anyone who has played hockey knows what he did. You don’t kick someone with your skate by mistake, or a reaction. It just doesn’t happen. He is costing us points

    – Hope he’s gong to be able to react positively to this long-term contract: some players don’t. It’s part of the “art” of salary negotiations: understanding its’ implication on players motiviations. He could fall into the “fu$k it, I’ve been paid, no need to show discipline, now”

  60. dustrock says:

    Ha ha someone on twitter suggesting the Oilers emergency call-up Raphael Lavoie 😀

  61. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – This is great news if it happens. Both Howson and Bob might be gone :

    – This off-season will be interesting: I hope they bring in some up and comers, people with different perspectives, a modern sport science group, a GM-in-waiting, all that jazz

    https://thesportsdaily.com/2020/02/14/report-oilers-howson-to-join-ahl/

  62. Reja says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – Intent doesn’t matter as much as what the actual injury was for the practical purpose of dishing out punishment in the NHL.If heaven forbid the skate went up and carved his face after glancing off his chest, he’s be out a lot more: that’s just how it works.

    – Re intent: anyone who has played hockey knows what he did.You don’t kick someone with your skate by mistake, or a reaction.It just doesn’t happen.He is costing us points

    – Hope he’s gong to be able to react positively to this long-term contract: some players don’t.It’s part of the “art” of salary negotiations: understanding its’ implication on players motiviations.He could fall into the “fu$k it, I’ve been paid, no need to show discipline, now”

    The player in question didn’t even react did Kass even make contact when he straightened his leg.

  63. npanciroli says:

    throw the book at Kassian IMO. Stupid play.

  64. godot10 says:

    Reja: The player in question didn’t even react did Kass even make contact when he straightened his leg.

    Tampa is a team that plays with discipline, and it’s players are disciplined and have the ability to control themselves.

    Unlike one particular Oilers player, who has zero impulse control, and a clearly impaired decision-making neural net.

  65. N64 says:

    Harpers Hair: In other news, MacKinnon one point behind McDavid in the scoring race.

    Dear [ ̄ ̄]ノ( º _ ºノ)

    We know where you left your [ ̄ ̄].

    HARPERS HAIRsays:
    January 4, 2020 at 2:59 pm
    Nathan MacKinnon now leading the league with 1.51 PPG (compared to 1.48 for McDavid and Draisaitl)

  66. Reja says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – Intent doesn’t matter as much as what the actual injury was for the practical purpose of dishing out punishment in the NHL.If heaven forbid the skate went up and carved his face after glancing off his chest, he’s be out a lot more: that’s just how it works.

    – Re intent: anyone who has played hockey knows what he did.You don’t kick someone with your skate by mistake, or a reaction.It just doesn’t happen.He is costing us points

    – Hope he’s gong to be able to react positively to this long-term contract: some players don’t.It’s part of the “art” of salary negotiations: understanding its’ implication on players motiviations.He could fall into the “fu$k it, I’ve been paid, no need to show discipline, now”

    The minute he signed the contract he became the new whipping boy for certain percentage of Oiler followers. This is why Whitney, Penner, Horcoff etc laugh about It now but at the time a certain fan base was on them 24/7. The only followers wanting a long suspension for Kass are Oiler followers.Oiler followers actually think we can entice free agents for market value ha ha that’s a hot one.

  67. N64 says:

    Draisaitl 1.58
    McDavid 1.47
    MacKinnon 1.43

  68. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    I noticed the Kassian incident as it occured live and was surprised the commentators didnt focus in on it at all.

    Dumb action. Retaliatory or not. Reactionary or not.

    I didnt see/notice if the kick made contact or not.

    Kass deserves a 1 game suspension. Dangerous play.

    His history / case file may cause it to be 2 games.

    I think with his recent suspension and my suspicion that King George doesn’t like him, it will be closer to 5…
    Regardless of how long it is, he needs to get back to where he was playing a few weeks before he inked is contract…

  69. Reja says:

    godot10: Tampa is a team that plays with discipline, and it’s players are disciplined and have the ability to control themselves.

    Unlike one particular Oilers player, who has zero impulse control, and a clearly impaired decision-making neural net.

    There Discipline got them bounced in the first round. Why do you think they added slow foot Maroon? I say it was for a dose of turbulence and nasty when the real hockey starts.

  70. Ribs says:

    This is awesome…

    https://www.tsn.ca/edmonton-eskimos-to-retain-name-increase-engagement-with-inuit-communities-1.1442817

    Change the name? Heck no! We want more Eskimos football!

    Love it.

  71. Bank Shot says:

    GordieHoweHatTrick: I think with his recent suspension and my suspicion that King George doesn’t like him, it will be closer to 5…
    Regardless of how long it is, he needs to get back to where he was playing a few weeks before he inked is contract…

    An in person hearing usually means 6+ games.

    Can’t really defend Kassian’s actions here. You can’t kick someone. I think everyone agrees on that.

  72. jtblack says:

    BOP.  I thought about our convo the other day, and actually asked myself, WHO WOULD I CONSIDER “GENERATIONAL STATUS.”  

    You made me consider definition, because as long as the definitions are different, then none of it matters. So my definition (doesn’t have to be yours or anyone else’s) is the following, and it doesn’t have to be all of themnecessarily.

    A PLAYER:That changes:
    1) The way a position is played
    2) The way the entire game is played
    3) Changes the way teams play / defend / draft
    4) Is so exceptional compared to their peers over at least a 5 year period

    STARTING IN 1970.  SO THE LAST 50 YEARS ……  GENERATIONAL: Here Goes Nothing.

    ORR – ON ALL LISTS
    GRETZKY- ON ALL LISTS
    LEMIEUX- MOST GIFTED OFFENSIVE PLAYER TO EVER LACE THEM UP.  Put together one of the best stretches of all time in 92/93 upon his return from cancer.29 G 24 A in 17 GAMES.  SEASON PACE WAS 213 PTS.  **Still holds the CHL record for most points in a Junior season.  IN 70 GMS LEMIEUX HAD 133 G & 149 A for 282 POINTS** 

     LINDROS – I am not even the biggest Lindros fan. But I do believe that injuries played a big part in Lindros’ legacy.  Consider, 149 points in 57 games in his draft year, one of the best Junior Seasons Ever.  1st 5 years in PHILLY WERE FLAT OUT DOMINANT.  Lindros never played 80 games in any of his 8 years in Philly.  His Goals per 80 in his first 5 years were 54, 54, 51, 52, 49.  In 8 years in Philly he average 1.36 PPG and redefined the Power Game. 
    LIDSTROM – MR. UNDERRATED.  CORSI MONSTER. WINNER.  7 NORRIS TROPHIES along with 3 – 2nd place finishes in the Voting. Detroit was stacked in those days, but I think their silent assassin wore #5.   
    CROSBY – #1 overall pick who has delivered on the all of the Hype.
     OVECHKIN – #1 overall pick who is arguably the best Goal Scorer of All Time (especially when considering ERA adjustments)
    MCDAVID- EVEN IF HE NEVER PLAYED ANOTHER GAME, I HAVE HIM AS GENERATIONAL

      HONORABLE MENTION : PAVEL BURE  

    GOALERS ………………. 

    *ROY – Won Cup as a Rookie. 3 CUPS.  3 VEZINAS. MOST PLAYOFF WINS @ 151 (38 MORE THAN 2ND PLACE).  ** also. I believe he should have won another VEZINA in 96/97.  38-15-7.  .923SV%. 7 SO. ** redefined to butterfly style*

    HASEK – 1 CUP.  6 VEZINAS.  **redefined the “cover the bottom of the net style.  Flat out Dominant for a 4 or 5 year period in Buffalo. 

    HONORABLE MENTION – MARTIN BRODEUR

  73. Darth Tu says:

    N64,

    For Harper’s Hair, where is Petterson in that list?

  74. N64 says:

    ~ In NHL stats 1.00 PPG ahead of Brogan Rafferty. ~

  75. Johnny skid says:

    godot10: Tampa is a team that plays with discipline, and it’s players are disciplined and have the ability to control themselves.

    Unlike one particular Oilers player, who has zero impulse control, and a clearly impaired decision-making neural net.

    Beat that rented mule! No mercy. Why can’t Zack not be perfect like you?

  76. OriginalPouzar says:

    Granlund was the presumed call-up – made necessary by Kassian taking himself out of the lineup, again.

    Cap space is further reduced.

    Granny has played well down in the AHL and is a legit NHL depth player when playing well who is responsible and can kill penalties.

  77. jake70 says:

    Just watched that kick 5 times. Clear as crystal to me – was intentional.

  78. BONE207 says:

    Potty training the twins.?

  79. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    I think you need an honourable mention for Bossy in this.

    Its controversial yup, but only once in his career did he drop below 50 goals in a season and that was his last.

    Limited by injuries and played in the highest scoring era of the game but his goal numbers are still crazy: 53, 69, 51, 68, 64, 60, 51, 58, 61 38

    From the Wiki Bossy owns or shares these NHL records:

    Most consecutive 50+ goal seasons: 9
    Most 50+ goal seasons (not necessarily consecutive): 9 (tied with Wayne Gretzky)
    Most 60+ goal seasons (not necessarily consecutive): 5 (tied with Wayne Gretzky)
    Highest goals-per-game average, career (minimum 200 total goals): .762 goals per game
    Most power-play goals, one playoff season: 9 (tied with Cam Neely)
    Most consecutive hat tricks: 3 (tied with Joe Malone, who accomplished this twice)

    I say if you’re including Ovi you have to give a mention to Bossy

  80. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Missed the end of the game and the kick. Just watched it. Stupid yes, malicious no.

    He was trying to move Cernak off Archie because it has created an odd man situation.

    Holding his stick and then trying to push him off is weird, maybe he was trying to get his stick so he couldn’t join the play.

    I saw absolutely no intent to injure, just to move him.

    Any discipline needs to reflect that fairly or it’s also not just.

  81. godot10 says:

    Reja: There Discipline got them bounced in the first round. Why do you think they added slow foot Maroon? I say it was for a dose ofturbulence and nasty when the real hockey starts.

    They are paying Maroon $900K for one year, NOT $3.2 million per for four.

  82. godot10 says:

    Johnny skid: Beat that rented mule! No mercy. Why can’t Zack not be perfect like you?

    Is 4 x $3.2 million rented? Or a grossly overpaid for white elephant?

  83. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Granlund was the presumed call-up – made necessary by Kassian taking himself out of the lineup, again.

    Cap space is further reduced.

    Granny has played well down in the AHL and is a legit NHL depth player when playing well who is responsible and can kill penalties.

    I don’t think you can replace a player on the roster for a suspension? Except in exceptional cases.

    So I think the Oilers will be limited to 22.

  84. v4ance says:

    I’m been the most critical of Mike Smith but I have to give him credit. He played a good game last night but he was beaten by an even better goalie.

    I felt he made small errors on both goals though. On the first , he lost his focus along with his stick with Maroon creating traffic in front of the net. He lost the puck for a second and that’s all it took for Maroon to bank it off him. Smith’s not a good technical goalie but he really just should have hugged his post.

    The second goal Gourde was coming all the way down on the ice on his backhand trying to outskate Klefbom to the net. With the backcheck, his only real option was to pull it to his forehand and go for the stick side and Smith should have anticipated that. Smith dropped his blocker to cover the bottom of the net, but once Gourde got it to his forehand, the entire top corner was available.

    This is my main complaint against Smith: he’s been getting the run support in this last stretch and I was afraid he’d lose when he just needed to be AS good as the opposing goalie just like last night.

  85. Reja says:

    godot10: They are paying Maroon $900K for one year, NOT $3.2 million per for four.

    Edmonton has a hard time attracting any free agents unless they’re over the hill or the offer is 25 percent more then practically everyone else. Kass pretty much signed for market value, I think he’ll be a good soldier and hopefully he’s 4th in line to raise the cup.

  86. Harpers Hair says:

    Darth Tu:
    N64,

    For Harper’s Hair, where is Petterson in that list?

    Intersting question.

    Pettersson is 21 and is scoring at a 1.00 PPG game pace. (5th overall pick)

    So let’s look at the others in their 21 year old season:

    MacKinnon – .646 (1st overall pick)

    Draisaitl – .939 (3rd overall pick)

    McDavid – 1.31(1st overall pick)

    Of course development is not a straight line and all the other players were drafted higher than Pettersson but he shows well given his age.

    Also worth noting that the Canucks are not as top heavy as the Oilers and have more balanced scoring.

    This season’s top 10 scorers by points:

    Draisaitl – 90
    McDavid – 81
    RNH – 42
    Klefbom – 32
    Kassian -30
    Neal – 29
    Nurse – 24
    Chiasson – 20
    Bear – 18
    Archibald – 14

    Total – 380

    Pettersson – 57
    Miller – 57
    Horvat – 46
    Boeser – 45
    Hughes – 44
    Pearson – 41
    Virtanen – 32
    Gaudette – 27
    Edler – 23
    Leivo – 19

    Total – 391

    So, while it’s great to have two dominant scorers, depth and balance can overcome that especially if injury strikes one of your top guys.

    Also worth noting that MacKinnon played 16 games without Rantanen and Landeskog his usual line mates.

    I would wager he would show much better if they had not been injured.

  87. who says:

    Woodguy v2.0: He’s not supposed to be “covering” there.

    Yeah. A lot of posters seem to struggle with this concept.
    To my eye every team that uses the drop back pass (and they all seem to) relies on the puck carrier to not turn it over. There is no backup.
    So if the blue line is clogged up the correct play is to get the puck deep.
    That is the backup plan.

  88. Ice Sage says:

    godot10,

    Reja: But what about their strength of schedule.

    And their Run of cups and dominance? – Remember Charlie Coyle, the next Crosby. That broken clock hasn’t even been right once… (problem is you develop a past).

  89. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair: Intersting question.

    Pettersson is 21 and is scoring at a 1.00 PPG game pace. (5th overall pick)

    So let’s look at the others in their 21 year old season:

    MacKinnon – .646 (1st overall pick)

    Draisaitl – .939 (3rd overall pick)

    McDavid – 1.31(1st overall pick)

    Of course development is not a straight line and all the other players were drafted higher than Pettersson but he shows well given his age.

    Also worth noting that the Canucks are not as top heavy as the Oilers and have more balanced scoring.

    This season’s top 10 scorers by points:

    Draisaitl – 90
    McDavid – 81
    RNH – 42
    Klefbom – 32
    Kassian -30
    Neal –29
    Nurse – 24
    Chiasson – 20
    Bear – 18
    Archibald – 14

    Total – 380

    Pettersson – 57
    Miller – 57
    Horvat – 46
    Boeser – 45
    Hughes – 44
    Pearson – 41
    Virtanen – 32
    Gaudette – 27
    Edler – 23
    Leivo – 19

    Total – 391

    So, while it’s great to have two dominant scorers, depth and balance can overcome that especially if injury strikes one of your top guys.

    Also worth noting that MacKinnon played 16 games without Rantanen and Landeskog his usual line mates.

    I would wager he would show much better if they had not been injured.

    The kid needs some meat on his bones but he’s got one hell of shot and that’s not going anywhere.

  90. Reja says:

    who: Yeah. A lot of posters seem to struggle with this concept.
    To my eye every team that uses the drop back pass (and they all seem to) relies on the puck carrier to not turn it over. There is no backup.
    So if the blue line is clogged up the correct play is to get the puck deep.
    That is the backup plan.

    Never give up the puck without back-up support then again I was taught this in Atoms a hundred years ago

  91. Ice Sage says:

    Reja,

    RE: Petterson – he’s Gotta stay healthy too, gets bumped out a lot. Gonna be interesting come playoffs to see if Vcr can protect him. Goes for McD also, but the Calgary fiasco has established a gritensity identity for this year’s Oilers.

  92. who says:

    Hey LT, I’m curious why you think Maroon was Larssons man on the first goal?
    Looked to me that Cave had him marked and then left Maroon to cut him off on the other side of the net.
    Larsson was the closest guy when Maroon scored, but I’m not sure that’s on him.

  93. JimmyV1965 says:

    godot10: Tampa is a team that plays with discipline, and it’s players are disciplined and have the ability to control themselves.

    Unlike one particular Oilers player, who has zero impulse control, and a clearly impaired decision-making neural net.

    Tampa plays with discipline. WTF does this even mean? Certainly rules out the elbow Cernak gave Benning last night that he didn’t get called for. I think you make some insightful comments, wrapped around absolutely delusional horse shit.

  94. Bank Shot says:

    Harpers Hair: Intersting question.

    Pettersson is 21 and is scoring at a 1.00 PPG game pace. (5th overall pick)

    Way back of the pack. That’s all you have to say, No one cares about the rest of your excuses.

  95. Harpers Hair says:

    jtblack:
    BOP. I thought about our convo the other day, and actually asked myself, WHO WOULD I CONSIDER “GENERATIONAL STATUS.”

    You made me consider definition, because as long as the definitions are different, then none of it matters. So my definition (doesn’t have to be yours or anyone else’s) is the following, and it doesn’t have to be all of themnecessarily.

    A PLAYER:That changes:
    1) The way a position is played
    2) The way the entire game is played
    3) Changes the way teams play / defend / draft
    4) Is so exceptional compared to their peers over at least a 5 year period

    STARTING IN 1970. SO THE LAST 50 YEARS …… GENERATIONAL:Here Goes Nothing.

    ORR – ON ALL LISTS
    GRETZKY- ON ALL LISTS
    LEMIEUX- MOST GIFTED OFFENSIVE PLAYER TO EVER LACE THEM UP. Put together one of the best stretches of all time in 92/93 upon his return from cancer.29 G 24 A in 17 GAMES. SEASON PACE WAS 213 PTS. **Still holds the CHL record for most points in a Junior season. IN 70 GMS LEMIEUX HAD 133 G & 149 A for 282 POINTS**

    LINDROS – I am not even the biggest Lindros fan. But I do believe that injuries played a big part in Lindros’ legacy. Consider, 149 points in 57 games in his draft year, one of the best Junior Seasons Ever. 1st 5 years in PHILLY WERE FLAT OUT DOMINANT. Lindros never played 80 games in any of his 8 years in Philly. His Goals per 80 in his first 5 years were 54, 54, 51, 52, 49. In 8 years in Philly he average 1.36 PPG and redefined the Power Game.
    LIDSTROM – MR. UNDERRATED. CORSI MONSTER. WINNER. 7 NORRIS TROPHIES along with 3 – 2nd place finishes in the Voting. Detroit was stacked in those days, but I think their silent assassin wore #5.
    CROSBY – #1 overall pick who has delivered on the all of the Hype.
    OVECHKIN – #1 overall pick who is arguably the best Goal Scorer of All Time (especially when considering ERA adjustments)
    MCDAVID- EVEN IF HE NEVER PLAYED ANOTHER GAME, I HAVE HIM AS GENERATIONAL

    HONORABLE MENTION : PAVEL BURE

    GOALERS ……………….

    *ROY – Won Cup as a Rookie. 3 CUPS. 3 VEZINAS. MOST PLAYOFF WINS @ 151 (38 MORE THAN 2ND PLACE). ** also. I believe he should have won another VEZINA in 96/97. 38-15-7. .923SV%. 7 SO. ** redefined to butterfly style*

    HASEK – 1 CUP. 6 VEZINAS. **redefined the “cover the bottom of the net style. Flat out Dominant for a 4 or 5 year period in Buffalo.

    HONORABLE MENTION – MARTIN BRODEUR

    You forgot a couple of red headed twins.

    They changed the way the game is played by:

    Inventing the slap pass.

    First to use the drop back pass on the power play.

    Perfecting the cycle.

    I’ll just leave this here for you.

    https://youtu.be/yGUfc2h4wEc

  96. Reja says:

    Ice Sage:
    Reja,

    RE: Petterson – he’s Gotta stay healthy too, gets bumped out a lot.Gonna be interesting come playoffs to see if Vcr can protect him.Goes for McD also, but the Calgary fiasco has established a gritensity identity for this year’s Oilers.

    Billy Jacks stick weighs more then some of these kids playing directly out of the draft. Big reason for all the injuries unless they’re shifty like a Gretzky and having Semenko and company didn’t hurt either. I just watched the fight between Sammy and Hunter where Sammy splits hunters nose open with a knee to the face. Now that’s what intentional looks like man oh man did they compete hard back in the day.

  97. Harpers Hair says:

    Bank Shot,

    If only Draisaitl could have scored at that rate in his 21 year old season.

  98. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair: You forgot a couple of red headed twins.

    They changed the way the game is played by:

    Inventing the slap pass.

    First to use the drop back pass on the power play.

    Perfecting the cycle.

    I’ll just leave this here for you.

    https://youtu.be/yGUfc2h4wEc

    Biggest regret they mentioned was not winning a cup.

  99. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: You forgot a couple of red headed twins.

    They changed the way the game is played by:

    Inventing the slap pass.

    First to use the drop back pass on the power play.

    Perfecting the cycle.

    I’ll just leave this here for you.

    https://youtu.be/yGUfc2h4wEc

    Hehe

    And of course the book is still being written on Pettersson, Hughes, Horvat, Markstrom and Brogrom Raffletty!

  100. dustrock says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Blue Bullet Draft rankings are out:

    https://bluebulletreport.com/2020/02/14/2020-nhl-draft-rankings-top-31-for-february/

    Can argue with Brad’s system but I find his value generally is on par with the consensus. He at least uses math for it.

    Lafreniere the clear #1 pick, a drop-off to Byfield, and then a fairly large drop after Perfett at 8 and Lundell at 9. And then Askarov at #10.

    Drysdale at #5 then Poirier at #12 for D, then nobody until Sanderson at #24.

  101. OriginalPouzar says:

    N64:
    ~ In NHL stats 1.00 PPG ahead of Brogan Rafferty. ~

    Speaking of which, the 20 year old Evan Bouchard leads the AHL in d-man points in 2020 – 16 in 18 games I believe.

  102. Jethro Tull says:

    In other news, Sparta has said they are insulted by any team that calls itself the Spartans that doesn’t run a brutal militaristic regime.

  103. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: I don’t think you can replace a player on the roster for a suspension?Except in exceptional cases.

    So I think the Oilers will be limited to 22.

    They put McDavid on IR to open up the roser spot for the Granlund call-up.

  104. Leroy Draisdale says:

    I know, stumbled across Dave Brown vs Kyte fight. It was savage. Brown was just feeding him while he was lying on the ground. Ref standing right there and did nothing.

  105. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Bank Shot: An in person hearing usually means 6+ games.

    Can’t really defend Kassian’s actions here. You can’t kick someone. I think everyone agrees on that.

    Are you suggesting that Reja change his nic to “Not Everyone” ?

  106. frjohnk says:

    Harpers Hair: They changed the way the game is played by:

    Inventing the slap pass

    When the Oilers came back down to earth after the 90 Cup win, I added the Red Wings as my team. Gido got the American dish and watched the majority of Red Wing games. Would use the VCR to tape some games. I know that in the 90’s Lidstrom was really good at it. Might be where the Sedins got the idea.

    I would bet the slap pass was invented over 100 years ago.

    Sedins were fantastic players, seem like even better human beings. 1st ballot Hall of Famers.

  107. v4ance says:

    jtblack:
    BOP. I thought about our convo the other day, and actually asked myself, WHO WOULD I CONSIDER “GENERATIONAL STATUS.”

    You made me consider definition, because as long as the definitions are different, then none of it matters. So my definition (doesn’t have to be yours or anyone else’s) is the following, and it doesn’t have to be all of themnecessarily.

    A PLAYER:That changes:
    1) The way a position is played
    2) The way the entire game is played
    3) Changes the way teams play / defend / draft
    4) Is so exceptional compared to their peers over at least a 5 year period

    STARTING IN 1970. SO THE LAST 50 YEARS …… GENERATIONAL:Here Goes Nothing.

    ORR – ON ALL LISTS
    GRETZKY- ON ALL LISTS
    LEMIEUX- MOST GIFTED OFFENSIVE PLAYER TO EVER LACE THEM UP. Put together one of the best stretches of all time in 92/93 upon his return from cancer.29 G 24 A in 17 GAMES. SEASON PACE WAS 213 PTS. **Still holds the CHL record for most points in a Junior season. IN 70 GMS LEMIEUX HAD 133 G & 149 A for 282 POINTS**

    LINDROS – I am not even the biggest Lindros fan. But I do believe that injuries played a big part in Lindros’ legacy. Consider, 149 points in 57 games in his draft year, one of the best Junior Seasons Ever. 1st 5 years in PHILLY WERE FLAT OUT DOMINANT. Lindros never played 80 games in any of his 8 years in Philly. His Goals per 80 in his first 5 years were 54, 54, 51, 52, 49. In 8 years in Philly he average 1.36 PPG and redefined the Power Game.
    LIDSTROM – MR. UNDERRATED. CORSI MONSTER. WINNER. 7 NORRIS TROPHIES along with 3 – 2nd place finishes in the Voting. Detroit was stacked in those days, but I think their silent assassin wore #5.
    CROSBY – #1 overall pick who has delivered on the all of the Hype.
    OVECHKIN – #1 overall pick who is arguably the best Goal Scorer of All Time (especially when considering ERA adjustments)
    MCDAVID- EVEN IF HE NEVER PLAYED ANOTHER GAME, I HAVE HIM AS GENERATIONAL

    HONORABLE MENTION : PAVEL BURE

    GOALERS ……………….

    *ROY – Won Cup as a Rookie. 3 CUPS. 3 VEZINAS. MOST PLAYOFF WINS @ 151 (38 MORE THAN 2ND PLACE). ** also. I believe he should have won another VEZINA in 96/97. 38-15-7. .923SV%. 7 SO. ** redefined to butterfly style*

    HASEK – 1 CUP. 6 VEZINAS. **redefined the “cover the bottom of the net style. Flat out Dominant for a 4 or 5 year period in Buffalo.

    HONORABLE MENTION – MARTIN BRODEUR

    I would add Peter Forsberg to my list as well as all those you’ve mentioned

  108. Munny says:

    Benning apparently practised today and is no worse for the wear from the elbow to the nose by Cernak.

  109. Munny says:

    Harpers Hair: Inventing the slap pass.

    Jim Hughson’s burner account?

    You know this isn’t true.

    #inflammatorybs

  110. jtblack says:

    YES, it’s not an easy exercise … FORSBERG was dynamite for sure … Simliar to Lindros, injuries played a part for Forsberg too …

    The Forsberg – Sakic ; 1 – 2 Punch was pretty deadly for the Avs ..

  111. Bank Shot says:

    Munny: Jim Hughson’s burner account?

    You know this isn’t true.

    #inflammatorybs

    Can’t decide if HH is dumb or just stupid.

  112. N64 says:

    Woodguy,

    Hockey Reference gave you the wrong GP, PTS, SP% and SP% order for the Blues this morning:

    Colorado 56 33-17-6 72 0.643
    St. Louis 58 32-15-10 75 0.638

    Somehow they have the correct 32-15-10 record, but miscounted both GP and PTS.
    32-15-10 does not add up to 58 games and 75 points.
    Looks like the postponed game tripped them. The correct SP% has Blues first:

    St. Louis 57 32-15-10 74 0.649
    Colorado 56 33-17-6 72 0.643

    I reported the addition errors to hockey reference. They will be wrong for the Blues and Ducks until they fix this or their postponed game is completed.

  113. Harpers Hair says:

    Bank Shot: Can’t decide if HH is dumb or just stupid.

    You seem like a nice person.

  114. Bank Shot says:

    Harpers Hair: You seem like a nice person.

    Why would anyone treat someone that is just here to stir up shit nicely?

    You act like an idiot, you get treated like one.

  115. v4ance says:

    Bank Shot: Can’t decide if HH is dumb or just stupid.

    I go with obtuse. Intelligent enough but lacking in common sense

  116. YKOil says:

    dustrock: Can argue with Brad’s system but I find his value generally is on par with the consensus.He at least uses math for it.

    Lafreniere the clear #1 pick, a drop-off to Byfield, and then a fairly large drop after Perfett at 8 and Lundell at 9.And then Askarov at #10.

    Drysdale at #5 then Poirier at #12 for D, then nobody until Sanderson at #24.

    If I’m GM for Toronto, Colorado, Edmonton… I move heaven and earth to get a top 10 pick and get Askarov

  117. N64 says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – This is great news if it happens. Both Howson and Bob might be gone :

    One down. One to go:

    @TheAHL
    The AHL’s Board of Governors has unanimously elected Scott Howson as President and Chief Executive Officer, effective July 1, 2020.
    Details: http://bit.ly/37p0R49

  118. godot10 says:

    Bank Shot: Can’t decide if HH is dumb or just stupid.

    He is neither It takes a lot of intelligence to be a troll. He is sort of the Matt Tkachuk of the blog, preying upon the weakminded and snowflakiness of many Lowetide posters.

  119. Bank Shot says:

    N64: One down. One to go:

    @TheAHL
    The AHL’s Board of Governors has unanimously elected Scott Howson as President and Chief Executive Officer, effective July 1, 2020.
    Details: http://bit.ly/37p0R49

    Great news. The more Boys on the Bus gone from this org the better.

  120. godot10 says:

    YKOil: If I’m GM for Toronto, Colorado, Edmonton… I move heaven and earth to get a top 10 pick and get Askarov

    As a general rule, one should wait for goaltenders one has ranked in the 1st or 2nd rounds to fall to you in the 3rd round.

    Go into every draft with this mindset, instead of going all in on one guy early in the 1st round.

    One should be very wary and careful if one decides to break this rule.

  121. Reja says:

    godot10: He is neitherIt takes a lot of intelligence to be a troll.He is sort of the Matt Tkachuk of the blog, preying upon the weakminded and snowflakiness of many Lowetide posters.

    All the signs of a disgruntled former employee.

  122. N64 says:

    Paul Almeida @AzorcanGlobal Jan 23, 2019
    When asked about the “old boys club” Nicholson focused on Lowe yet didn’t mention MacTavish & Howson who have been here forever.

  123. Munny says:

    I’m thinking you mean “old Boys Club” here?

  124. N64 says:

    Media guys are only team employees if they work for the rights holder.

  125. Reja says:

    Bank Shot: Great news. The more Boys on the Bus gone from this org the better.

    Every team has a boys on the bus crowd getting pay stubs from scouts, agents to equipment managers etc.

  126. Harpers Hair says:

    N64:
    ~ Media guys are only team employees if they work for the rights holder. ~

    And I actually did for a time.

    But I’m hardly disgruntled….just objective.

  127. N64 says:

    Well you definitely have an objective.

  128. Harpers Hair says:

    godot10: He is neitherIt takes a lot of intelligence to be a troll.He is sort of the Matt Tkachuk of the blog, preying upon the weakminded and snowflakiness of many Lowetide posters.

    Now the question is…who is Kassian?

  129. geowal says:

    Bank Shot: Great news. The more Boys on the Bus gone from this org the better.

    While I know what you mean, he’s not really “boys on the bus”…he was never on that bus. More of a leading shadow of the decade of Darkness. What could we call them? Maybe the Men of the Shadows?

  130. YKOil says:

    godot10,

    Know the rule full well. I am a believer in Askarov. Ceiling for him is the pick after Buffalo (if Buffalo remains in the top-10, right now they are #7 or so) as Buffalo doesn’t need a goalie. Floor is top-15; too many teams need a tender.

  131. leadfarmer says:

    Harpers Hair: Now the question is…who is Kassian?

    We need LT to employ one to take out some of the trash around here

  132. Bank Shot says:

    geowal: While I know what you mean, he’s not really “boys on the bus”…he was never on that bus. More of a leading shadow of the decade of Darkness. What could we call them? Maybe the Men of the Shadows?

    Quite right he wasn’t a player, more of a henchmen of the Boys on the Bus.

  133. Munny says:

    Johnsson out 8 weeks.

    There go the Kapanen dreams…

  134. N64 says:

    Nope. It’s just LT’s grand experiment to see if his readers can ever develop enough immunity to ignore the resident troll.

    With a little luck HH will cross the line some day instead of his victims. Picture LT on the line one day with McCurdy when HH goes way too far. Like this Burt Lancaster scene at 0:49:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLuUu_dT-NI

  135. geowal says:

    I didn’t think anybody considered the boys on the bus era to still be present in 1994, if you do that’s cool.
    Still liking the men of the shadows idea.

  136. Munny says:

    Right: Happer’s Hair from now on.

  137. N64 says:

    Think of it as culling the ex-NHL GM herd.

  138. hunter1909 says:

    Harpers Hair: You forgot a couple of red headed twins.

    They changed the way the game is played by:

    Inventing the slap pass.

    First to use the drop back pass on the power play.

    Perfecting the cycle.

    I’ll just leave this here for you.

    https://youtu.be/yGUfc2h4wEc

    Man retires, leaves Alberta to go live on Vancouver Island.

    Retired Man starts following the local Canucks from Vancouver Island. Oilers blow so it’s not too difficult. Thinks his currently forecast -8 + snow Vancouver Island is akin to Mediterranean paradise like St Tropez, and isn’t afraid to taunt the hillbillies on Lowetide with this “fact”.

    Bored, out of work, his immediate family holding little interest to him(and probably vice versa) he decides to troll Lowetide fans, from his Vancouver Island -8 and snow filled Mediterranean paradise. His now local team the Canucks are a middling franchise but the Oilers aren’t exactly winning cups either so it’s all relatively easy to wind everyone up. Possibly starting to detach from reality itself.

    Hence the trolling.

  139. Bulging Twine says:

    Is there any confirmation that Holland did indeed go to Sweden?

  140. pts2pndr says:

    Dave Browns best beat down was on Stu Grimson ( the Grim Reaper ). Knocked him senseless with the first punch and then beat the defenceless man until the refs finally stepped in. So bad it was actually hard to watch.

  141. pts2pndr says:

    His motto is I’m not happy til you’re not happy. ?

  142. Munny says:

    The farm team is so shorthanded right now that they’ve been renamed the “Bakersfield Condos” for the remainder of the season.

  143. Munny says:

    And apparently Kassian has hired Alan Dershowitz to filibuster his Player Safety hearing today, otherwise what the hell is taking so long?

    #nodecision
    #aliveandkicking

  144. Scungilli Slushy says:

    godot10: As a general rule, one should wait for goaltenders one has ranked in the 1st or 2nd rounds to fall to you in the 3rd round.

    Go into every draft with this mindset, instead of going all in on one guy early in the 1st round.

    One should be very wary and careful if one decides to break this rule.

    If you want high end players they are far more predictably in the first round.

    Goalies are harder to project of course, it remains the best we’re first rounders.

  145. Harpers Hair says:

    Munny:
    And apparently Kassian has hired Alan Dershowitz to filibuster his Player Safety hearing today, otherwise what the hell is taking so long?

    #nodecision
    #aliveandkicking

    Just listened to a radio hit with Ray Ferraro.

    He thinks Kassian should get a minimum of ten games.

  146. Scungilli Slushy says:

    So Kassian is not a great in the moment decision maker.

    So how is it that Chara gets a slap on the wrist for yet again performing an action with intent? Cross checking people (ever) but above the shoulders outside of game play is vicious.

    He also has a history, Kassian hasn’t broken anyone’s neck.

    Gio and tkachuk have repeatedly done dangerous plays and hurt people seriously.

    Anyone on a witch hunt over the ‘kick’ against one of their own players in a league full of refereeing bias and incompetence, well it just doesn’t make sense to me.

    As with stats that we love here, context and not being reactionary and unnecessarily extreme works, you know.

  147. OriginalPouzar says:

    Munny:
    Benning apparently practised today and is no worse for the wear fromthe elbow to the nose by Cernak.

    Great news on many levels.

  148. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Harpers Hair: Just listened to a radio hit with Ray Ferraro.

    He thinks Kassian should get a minimum of ten games.

    See above

  149. OriginalPouzar says:

    I’ve been quite happy with Howson’s work with Broberg, Berglund, Niemelasson, etc.

    Hope he does end up helping get Berglund under contract for next season before he leaves.

  150. Reja says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    So Kassian is not a great in the moment decision maker.

    So how is it that Chara gets a slap on the wrist for yet again performing an action with intent? Cross checking people (ever) but above the shoulders outside of game play is vicious.

    He also has a history, Kassian hasn’t broken anyone’s neck.

    Gio and tkachuk have repeatedly done dangerous plays and hurt people seriously.

    Anyone on a witch hunt over the ‘kick’ against one of their own players in a league full of refereeing bias and incompetence, well it just doesn’t make sense to me.

    As with stats that we love here, context and not being reactionary and unnecessarily extreme works, you know.

    The Boys on the bus probably teased Parros back in the day, some people hold grudges.

  151. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Just read your piece Bruce, great as always.

    You said justice needs to be served, which it does, but it needs to be just, or like everywhere else it creates unrest.

  152. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Reja: The Boys on the bus probably teased Parros back in the day, some people hold grudges.

    Ha!

    Other than being a bit young maybe.

    Or maybe he’s just another narcissist asshole more interested in himself than serving the greater good.

    It is possible to take care of one’s interests and not be destructive.

  153. OriginalPouzar says:

    Kassian gets 7 games – about right.

  154. Munny says:

    So Kass will be missing:

    FLA
    CAR
    BOS
    MIN
    LAK
    ANA
    VEGreville

    And will return to action at home to the Jets on HNIC Leap Day.

  155. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Munny:
    7 games for Kass

    https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    Total BS. Way too much.

    Let’s see some more hard ‘discipline’ being dispensed to non Oiler players.

  156. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Perfect.

  157. Reja says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Ha!

    Other than being a bit young maybe.

    Or maybe he’s just another narcissist asshole more interested in himself than serving the greater good.

    It is possible to take care of one’s interests and not be destructive.

    Not sure if they ( Zach and Parros) were in Montreal at the same time but it’s obvious he has a hard on for him.

  158. Lowetide says:

    Seven for Kassian. I thought six.

  159. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Kassian gets 7 games – about right.

    Says who

  160. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Reja: Not sure if they ( Zach and Parros)were in Montreal at the same time but it’s obvious he has a hard on for him.

    Some people are attracted to the bad boy type.

  161. N64 says:

    Hey. anyone remember the good old days when we argued whether 18-97-44 or 93-29-56 were the first line?

  162. OriginalPouzar says:

    Speaking of the canucks, as we do on this forum, not great news for Ferland who left Utica’s game with concussion like symptoms.

    This is not good.

    Of course, the thought is for the person/player but, as far as hockey goes, there is a reasonable chance that most of that 4 year contract is spent on LTIR – not good at all for the canucks cap management – will make it tougher in the off-season and to manage the cap during the season.

  163. Munny says:

    They were not.

  164. N64 says:

    Welcome back to the Utica forum OP. Where have you been?

  165. Bag of Pucks says:

    Fully agree all those players were generational. I would include Brodeur and Bossy as well.

    Trap or not, Martin’s numbers speak for themselves. And Bossy played in the shadow of Gretzky which shouldn’t penalize him. Like Hull and Ovechkin after him, he was a purebred sniper.

    Trottier to Bossy. Gretzky to Kurri. Those were the lethal combos of the 80s.

  166. Bag of Pucks says:

    7 games for Kassian makes about as much sense as the Rocket’s “two minutes for looking so good” with Grecian Formula.

  167. Johnny skid says:

    I wondered what the oiler premium was going to cost. Thanks GEORGE, you suck at your job.

  168. Glovjuice says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    The beauty of half of your forward group being AHL quality is that when one is suspended, you can slot another one in from Bako no problem!

    thread/ (this is what the cool kids say right ?)

  169. digger50 says:

    Reja: Not sure if they ( Zach and Parros)were in Montreal at the same time but it’s obvious he has a hard on for him.

    Might be right

    And being Valentine’s Day Kassian didn’t want an in person hearing just in case the lights went out .

  170. Scungilli Slushy says:

    digger50: Might be right

    And being Valentine’s Day Kassian didn’t want an in person hearing just in case the lights went out .

    I’d put a unit on Zach in that game.

  171. hunter1909 says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    7 games for Kassian makes about as much sense as the Rocket’s “two minutes for looking so good” with Grecian Formula.

    Leave The Rocket out of this.

  172. Reja says:

    digger50: Might be right

    And being Valentine’s Day Kassian didn’t want an in person hearing just in case the lights went out .

    Head hunters and slue footers need only to apply.

  173. Pescador says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Ha!

    Or maybe he’s just another narcissist asshole more interested in himself than serving the greater good.

    It is possible to take care of one’s interests and not be destructive.

    Somewhere Harlots Helmet is smiling whilst stroking a raccoon in his lap
    & laughing like Dr. Claw

  174. Pescador says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Some people are attracted to the bad boy type.

    hunter1909: Leave The Rocket out of this.

  175. Bulging Twine says:

    So which Detroit connection will Holland hire to replace Howson?

    Interestingly there are two former Oilers in player development there

    Shawn Horcoff and Daniel Cleary

  176. Harpers Hair says:

    Pescador: Somewhere Harlots Helmet is smiling whilst stroking a raccoon in his lap
    & laughing like Dr. Claw

    Being without Kassian for 7 games may be a blessing in disguise.

    He’s been awful since he signed that bloated contract.

  177. jp says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Ha!

    Other than being a bit young maybe.

    Or maybe he’s just another narcissist asshole more interested in himself than serving the greater good.

    It is possible to take care of one’s interests and not be destructive.

    I haven’t been following the thread today so may have missed an explanation.

    But what would Parros have to gain personally from suspending Kassian. Or letting Chara off clean?

  178. Harpers Hair says:

    Jason Zucker with 2 goals tonight for Pittsburgh.

    Some GM knows what he’s doing.

  179. Reja says:

    If JJ doesn’t want to engage Holland better find someone ASAP before they start targeting the second line. Also put Connor in the chamber for 72 hours and he should be good to go against the darling Innocent Bruins. We better squeak out a win this weekend or we’re n trouble.

  180. Glovjuice says:

    Add Howe and boom, done. Perfect list, impeccable. Rarely does anyone post something I agree with 100 %. The key is Mozart level when they enter the league – from day one. Easier for F then D then G but Mozart from day one is the key. And, I’m more of a Stravinsky / Zappa / Glass person but that is a whole separate conversation involving modernism vs. all else but…

  181. Glovjuice says:

    Fuck me

  182. OilClog says:

    The Twins invented the slap pass between the 3rd and 4th Stanley cup victory parades. It’s just facts.

  183. OilClog says:

    He actually has been engaging recently, why doesn’t the Gord and savior Chiasson?

  184. OilClog says:

    Parros was a Duck when Kassian was winning all those cups with the twins in Vancouver. Might be some on ice history between the 2 all things considered.

  185. Bulging Twine says:

    I would not want to be a Houston Astros batter this season

  186. Munny says:

    Bob Stauffer‏Verified account @Bob_Stauffer · 35m35 minutes ago

    Oilers prospect Raphael Lavoie scored his 10th goal in 13 games tonight since being traded to Chicoutimi.
    He now has 28-35-63 in 45 GP this season.
    The 2019 2nd rounder’ along with 2018 2nd round pick Ryan McLeod are important prospects for EDM to develop.

  187. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Bulging Twine:
    I would not want to be a Houston Astros batter this season

    Yup. Just like in the past several seasons, they are going to know what pitch is coming their way once again this year. Haha. On the flip side, I have very little sympathy for teams like the Dodgers and Yankees whining about how unfair their plight in life is when they annually buy whatever pieces they need to get to the WS.

  188. Reja says:

    Munny:
    Bob Stauffer‏Verified account @Bob_Stauffer · 35m35 minutes ago


    Oilers prospect Raphael Lavoie scored his 10th goal in 13 games tonight since being traded to Chicoutimi.
    He now has 28-35-63 in 45 GP this season.
    The 2019 2nd rounder’ along with 2018 2nd round pick Ryan McLeod are important prospects for EDM to develop.

    You think. When Holland passed on Zegras I was pissed we needed cheap skilled forwards yesterday. He partly made amends when he took drive to the net Lavoie. I still can’t believe he fell in our lap.

  189. Reja says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan: Yup. Just like in the past several seasons, they are going to know what pitch is coming their way once again this year. Haha. On the flip side, I have very little sympathy for teams like the Dodgers and Yankees whining about how unfair their plight in life is when they annually buy whatever pieces they need to get to the WS.

    Yet they still won’t let in the all time hit leader. They just love torturing Pete fricking hypocrites.

  190. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Reja: Yet they still won’t let in the all time hit leader. They just love torturing Pete fricking hypocrites.

    I think Pete has served his time … let him in. There are certainly worse characters in the HoF than Rose.

    So you’re an Astro … what is the first sign that you are considered a locker room cancer? Someone in your dugout starts banging on a trash can while you are in the batters box.

  191. hunter1909 says:

    jp: I haven’t been following the thread today so may have missed an explanation.

    But what would Parros have to gain personally from suspending Kassian. Or letting Chara off clean?

    Are you kidding? This is Lowetide, where rational opinions can be and are often checked at the entrance.

  192. LMHF#1 says:

    Altuve’s helmet had better be reinforced.

    100+ at your temple isn’t going to be fun for he or the rest of them.
    They sure earned it.

  193. Pescador says:

    Harpers Hair: Being without Kassian for 7 games may be a blessing in disguise.

    He’s been awful since he signed that bloated contract.

    I don’t wish to make light of Michael Ferland’s concussion issues as I am nothing like you but,
    If both were free agents this past summer;
    Kassian is/was the superior player.
    Looking at the contract Vancouver signed Ferland to, I guess you would know a thing or 2 about bloated

  194. Harpers Hair says:

    Reja: You think. When Holland passed on Zegras I was pissed we needed cheap skilled forwards yesterday. He partly made amends when he took drive to the net Lavoie. I still can’t believe he fell in our lap.

    He ain’t all that.

    Many second round picks are eating his lunch.

    Arthur Kaliev has 79 points.

    Many second round picks are playing in men’s leagues like the SEL and the NCAA while Lavoie is still playing against kids in the Q.

    Temper your expectations.

  195. Harpers Hair says:

    Pescador: I don’t wish to make light of Michael Ferland’s concussion issues as I am nothing like you but,
    If both were free agents this past summer;
    Kassian is/was the superior player.
    Looking at the contract Vancouver signed Ferland to, I guess you would know a thing or 2 about bloated

    One of these players has a brain injury and the other has no brain.

    Pick your poison.

  196. jp says:

    Reja: You think. When Holland passed on Zegras I was pissed we needed cheap skilled forwards yesterday. He partly made amends when he took drive to the net Lavoie. I still can’t believe he fell in our lap.

    It was pretty remarkable to get Lavoie in the 2nd.

    Comparing Lavoie to the top picks based on NHLE (using the Hockey Abstract factors):
    Turcotte (5th)—– 29
    Cozens (7th)—— 41
    Zegras (9th)——- 36
    Podkolzin (10th)- 13
    Boldy (12th)——- 17
    Caufield (15th)— 41
    Newhook (16th)- 32
    Krebs (17th)—— 40
    ——————————–
    Lavoie (38th)—– 33

    He wouldn’t look a bit out of place in the top half of the 1st round.

    Edit: Or what HH said.
    That Dys 1st is looking generational.

  197. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair: He ain’t all that.

    Many second round picks are eating his lunch.

    Arthur Kaliev has 79 points.

    Many second round picks are playing in men’s leagues like the SEL and the NCAA while Lavoie is still playing against kids in the Q.

    Temper your expectations.

    Ok Grandpappy.

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