2019-20 Game 58: Oilers at Panthers

This blog is about a lot of things, but at its heart, everything is driven by hyperbole. I won’t say this is the biggest game of the year, but you should know I want to say it. That’s the spirit of the Lowetide blog. From Donner Party to ‘giants walk among us’ it’s always been my way. I thought you should know.

The first time these two teams met in Florida, it was a 4-4 tie. The big story for Edmonton was Brent Grieve, who scored twice. You may not remember Grieve, he was a big winger who could win puck battles and score some. Grieve’s career was shorted by injury but he had 13 goals in his first NHL shot with Edmonton (acquired by Slats in December 1993). Boxscore is here.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Despite ‘transformation’ with Oilers, Zack Kassian’s on-ice actions come under scrutiny again
  • New Jonathan Willis: Why the Oilers are playing their best 5-on-5 hockey of the season
  • Lowetide: Making sense of the Oilers defensive depth chart for the stretch run and the summer
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘It was reactionary’: Oilers’ Zack Kassian addresses alleged kick; Lightning depth strikes; and Kailer Yamamoto’s big game
  • Jonathan Willis: 10 overlooked trade targets for the Oilers before the 2020 deadline
  • Lowetide: Why Connor McDavid’s injury is unlikely to alter Ken Holland’s trade deadline plan for the Oilers
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘We want to take it as a challenge’: Oilers survive first game without McDavid as room for improvement remains
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Trying to make sense of Connor McDavid’s injury and Darnell Nurse’s new contract with Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: Faced with uncertainty, Oilers hedge their bet on Darnell Nurse
  • Lowetide: Oilers sign Darnell Nurse
  • Lowetide: The Oilers trading their first-round pick is a bad idea
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: 15 potential trade targets for the Oilers before the 2020 deadline
  • Lowetide: Drilling down on right-handed centres for the Oilers to target before the trade deadline
  • Lowetide: If fast is the new big, the Oilers are trending in a very good direction
  • Lowetide: Why the Oilers are more likely to trade Adam Larsson than Kris Russell
  • Lowetide: Oilers prospects Evan Bouchard and Tyler Benson deliver best minor league performances in 20 years
  • Jonathan Willis: An updated list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20

OILERS AFTER 58 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 22-30-6, 50 points; goal differential -28
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 31-19-8, 70 points; goal differential +13
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 24-30-4, 52 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 24-29-5, 53 points; goal differential -25
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 30-21-6, 66 points; goal differential +3

I’m fascinated by the goal differentials, all teams but the current group are stretching toward agony or ecstasy. My goodness three of these teams were bad.

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
  • Current 10 games: 4-3-0

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 2-5-0, four points; goal differential -16
  • Oilers in February 2017: 4-3-0, eight points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in February 2018: 1-5-1, three points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in February 2019: 1-4-2, four points; goal differential -10
  • Oilers in February 2020: 3-3-0, six points; goal differential +1

It’s a big game tonight and we don’t know what the second line looks like, so you know the goalie will be important in this one. A bit of concern about the power-play entries as well.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: CAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: SJS, NAS, CHI (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: TBY, FLA, CAR (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: BOS, MIN (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: LAK, ANA, VEG (Expected 2-1-0)
  • At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 3-3-0, six points in six games

I see this as being the key contest this weekend, because the Carolina game tomorrow is the definition of a schedule loss. Today’s game is the one. Win it and the week is a success (2-1-0 going into Sunday).

OILERS 2019-20

I’m guessing Granlund (the veteran) draws in for Kassian on the No. 2 line, but suspect we’ll also see Tyler Benson this afternoon. Edmonton needs more skill, need some goals. Benson can’t be expected to have a major impact but his numbers suggest he can help.

NHL EQUIVALENCY

The NHLE took some hits in yesterday’s comments, I’ll remind you that Kailer Yamamoto’s draft day NHLE (37.7) told us he had a real chance, while Jesse Puljujarvi’s (20.8) was a red sky in the morning. Anything over 30 NHLE for a forward is excellent, anything over 20 for a defenseman is too. If a player is beyond the age of the entry deal (20-22 for entry) then these numbers are probably embellishing a little. Here we go.

Now it’s easy to poke holes in the NHLE but math can be creative as well as precise. Kailer Yamamoto is more efficient in the NHL than he was in the AHL, but his numbers in the minors indicated he was a skill player. NHLE can’t tell us everything because we don’t have time on ice. NHLE never did betray John Marino as an example, because he didn’t play a feature role in college. It has value.

I will tell you that, in looking at these numbers, all of Benson, Puljujarvi, Lavoie, Jones, Persson and Bouchard are bona fide and can be expected to carry enough of the load to be projected as NHL players when their time arrives. McLeod and Maksimov will get a TOI push a year from now, their story has yet to be written. Based on their usage, these are solid numbers.

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  1. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    WC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    STL 17
    COL 16
    DAL 14

    Pathetic
    VAN 11
    EDM 9
    VGP 7

    Wildcard
    CGY 7
    NSH 5

    Out of playoff
    MIN 4
    WPG 4
    ARI 4
    CHI 1
    SJS -3
    ANA -4
    LAK -13

    -VGP beats CGY with more regulation wins
    -All other ties are broken with gp

    Relvant games tonight:

    EDM (+135) at FLA (-155) – Line looks right. Depends on which Bob shows up. You can get to the slot on FLA. Will EDM?

    SJS (+160) at MIN (-180) – New coach bounce? Line looks too heavy on MIN.

    CHI (+125) at CGY (-145) – CHI has lost 5 in a row and been the better team in most of those games. I like them here.

    WSH (-145) at ARI (+125) – WSH is meandering, ARI is too at a lower level.

    NYI (+150) at VGP (-170) – NYI isn’t getting all the saves like they were earlier in the season. A bit of value on them though.

  2. OriginalPouzar says:

    Mikko starts.

    Benson is in.

    As per Stauffer

  3. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    EC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Atlantic
    BOS 24
    TBY 23
    TOR 10

    Metropolitan
    WSH 22
    PIT 20
    NYI 16

    Wilcard
    PHI 13
    CAR 12

    Out of playoffs
    CBJ 12
    FLA 9
    NYR 7
    BUF 2
    MTL 1
    NJD -5
    OTT -8
    DET -27

    -CAR/CBJ tie break due to gp
    -TOR fans (correctly imo) constantly bitch about the playoff seeding format. I wonder if they’ll bitch if TOR makes it as the 9th best team in the EC?

    Relevant wildcard games tonight:

    EDM (+135) at FLA (-155) – Line looks right. Depends on which Bob shows up. You can get to the slot on FLA. Will EDM?

    TOR (-175) at OTT (+155) – OTT beat ARI last game. Line is probably right. Campbell confirmed to start for TOR.

    PHI (+155) at TBY (-175) – Two hottest teams in EC. This might be where TBY’s run ends.

    DET (+335) at BOS (-470) – Not a relevant game but have never (or rarely) seen a hockey line like that. You have to put a half unit on DET just out of obligation.

  4. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Mikko starts.

    Benning is in.

    As per Stauffer

    Is calling Benson “Benning” a thing?

    I recall someone making that mistake in a previous thread.

    Is it a LT comments section meme now?

    Serious question.

  5. flyfish1168 says:

    I like Oiler Afternoon games. Starting early with a few beverage on a long weekend is a good thing. They seem to have become better playing in the afternoon the last couple of years.

  6. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    Easy to forget how dominant Arnott could be, or how dominant we projected Arnott’s potential to be, in the 1990s. That year he scored 33 as a rookie.

    Wouldn’t score 30 again till 05-06, but his career was consistent. Consistent scorer when healthy. Consistently unhealthy. Had a nice little renaissance to a career that amassed 400+ goals.

  7. Ben says:

    It’s been FOREVER coming, but I actually think the org is set up for consistent success over a bunch of years–as long as they can solidify G.

    Your team can only fall so far with a strong, deep D corps, and they’ve done fantastically well developing Jones, Bear and Bouchard thus far. If Samorukov and/or Broberg hits too, they’ll have lots of asset options.

    (Having two of the best Fs in the world doesn’t hurt either).

  8. buck yoakam says:

    I think Arnott was best when he played aggressively …the coaches asked him to tone down and he never was the same for the oilers…they din’t care for the amount of time he spent in the penalty box. Another missed diagnosis

  9. Mr DeBakey says:

    I think the thing is to call them
    T Benningson and
    M Benningson
    Thus eliminating any confusion

    The guy named after a plastic hat started the problem

  10. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    This blog is about a lot of things, but at its heart, everything is driven by hyperbole. I won’t say this is the biggest game of the year, but you should know I want to say it. That’s the spirit of the Lowetide blog. From Donner Party to ‘giants walk among us’ it’s always been my way. I thought you should know.

    Huge, if true.

  11. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    On it!

  12. jtblack says:

    Nothing beats the afternoon games on the weekend! Double Dip … Let’s Go Oilers !!!

    RN 5 games over is in the playoffs, equivalent of 87 points .. You have to think a few teams in the Turtle Derby will heat up … But will they ? Minny is not very Good, AZ is struggling and has been for a while, and WPG is probably overachieving already ….

    Crazy to think, but 89 or 90 Points could get in the playoffs in the West ..

  13. OilClog says:

    Just experienced the joys of reading that the Oilers should trade Yamahonda for Robin Lehner. The Hockey writers are a grouping of individuals that got left at various zoos because their families are fucking disgusted by them.

  14. Ryan says:

    Five games left before the trade deadline on the 24rth. A scheduled loss tomorrow against the desperate Canes and a likely loss against Boston on Wednesday.

    The Panthers, Wild, and Kings are winnable games.

    When will cautious Ken pull the trigger on a trade?

    If we somehow were able to win today and tomorrow (unlikely), would that be enough or does he wait right up to the last minute (my guess).

  15. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Excited about the game today. Chips are down, odds stacked against them. Perfect.

  16. Ben says:

    Ryan:
    Five games left before the trade deadline on the 24rth. A scheduled loss tomorrow against the desperate Canes and a likely loss against Boston on Wednesday.

    The Panthers, Wild, and Kings are winnable games.

    When will cautious Ken pull the trigger on a trade?

    If we somehow were able to win today and tomorrow (unlikely), would that be enough or does he wait right up to the last minute (my guess).

    Do you think there’s a realistic, advisable trade out there for KH that would be impactful enough to change the outcomes of these upcoming games?

    I really strongly believe Ken should hold on to his (meagre) assets until he can cash them in for a non-rental top-6 forward. And that’s more likely to happen in the summer.

  17. blainer says:

    Ryan:
    Five games left before the trade deadline on the 24rth. A scheduled loss tomorrow against the desperate Canes and a likely loss against Boston on Wednesday.

    The Panthers, Wild, and Kings are winnable games.

    When will cautious Ken pull the trigger on a trade?

    If we somehow where able to win today and tomorrow (unlikely), would that be enough or does he wait right up to the last minute (my guess).

    A month ago I wanted to be in on the Hall trade or any good trade for that matter that could move the needle. Now I’ve done a complete 360 on this especially with the emergence of Yammer. Arizona may well miss the playoff’s and most likely will lose their 2020 first plus will have given away an excellent D prospect.

    I agree with Kenny.. wait til the very last minute when the prices drop. With the CMD injury it’s just very risky to move either the first or second rounder in a draft as deep as this one.

    If he does move either pick I hope it’s not for a rental.

  18. v4ance says:

    Just for fun, I did a quick and dirty remaining opponents’ strength of schedule with roughly 1/3 of the season left. My method was take the upcoming opponents for each team and add their current standings points to a running sum and then do the average for the remaining games.

    VEG (23 games) 63.74 (Easiest sked) 3 games against Oilers may be decide who gets in as Pacific wildcard
    Van (24 games) 64.25
    EDM (25 games) 64.44 3games each against ANA and VEG
    CAL (23 games) 64.82 (hardest sked) mainly because they play BOTH BOS and TB twice more. 4 near guaranteed losses?

  19. jtblack says:

    CAPOLOGISTS …

    Can someone explain the NYR buyout amounts for Shattenkirk. Goes way up in year 2? Does that make sense?

    Shattenkirk, Kevin $1,483,333 $6,083,333 $1,433,333 $1,433,333

  20. jtblack says:

    Ryan Strome with a tidy 49 points (36 @ ES) …. Not sure how TMac messed that one up …..

  21. jtblack says:

    it’s risky to move out the 1st or 2nd regardless of the McD injury .. Edm needs those picks as they can be part of the Cup Winning Team in 3-5 years …

  22. blainer says:

    jtblack:
    it’s risky to move out the 1st or 2nd regardless of the McD injury .. Edm needs those picks as they can be part of the Cup Winning Team in 3-5 years …

    Yup I wouldn’t be dealing either of those picks.. even with CMD..

  23. buck yoakam says:

    in Todd we trust(ed)…frick thats maddening

  24. Gerta Rauss says:

    I’m at work and on my phone so I can’t really dig into the numbers, but iirc there is a signing bonus in that calculation and you get no relief buying those out

  25. Woogie63 says:

    If Connor’s neighbour, wanted to bet you he is back for the Boston game, how would you interrupt that?
    Asking for a friend….

  26. Ben says:

    Yeah, TMac was stupid not to play Strome with Panarin more often.

  27. cowboy bill says:

    OK so here’s the line up for this afternoon’s game as per Cowboy Bill .

    93-29-56
    49-23-15
    60-91-89
    16-12-39

    77-6
    25-74
    82-83

    19
    41

    Brad Malone should get the call up , so Malone , Russell & Lagesson are the spares .

    GO OILERS !!!!!

  28. godot10 says:

    //This blog is about a lot of things, but at its heart, everything is driven by hyperbole.//

    Hmmm! -)

    This must be the place.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JccW-mLdNe0

  29. Harpers Hair says:

    v4ance:
    Just for fun, I did a quick and dirty remaining opponents’ strength of schedule with roughly 1/3 of the season left.My method was take the upcoming opponents for each team and add their current standings points to a running sum and then do the average for the remaining games.

    VEG (23 games) 63.74 (Easiest sked) 3 games against Oilers may be decide who gets in as Pacific wildcard
    Van (24 games) 64.25
    EDM (25 games) 64.44 3games each against ANA and VEG
    CAL (23 games) 64.82 (hardest sked) mainly because they play BOTH BOS and TB twice more. 4 near guaranteed losses?

    For future reference, here is a site that updates strength of remaining schedule on a daily basis based on am amalgamation of several power rankings.

    http://powerrankingsguru.com/nhl/strength-of-schedule.php

  30. Woogie63 says:

    Ben:
    Yeah, TMac was stupid not to play Strome with Panarin more often.

    Probably like the Montreal GM who couldn’t get Kassian anytime on the line with Connor or the Duck’s GM after Maroon starting playing with Connor. Or the CBJ GM who is wonder what happened to Josh Anderson offense.

  31. digger50 says:

    Yes, it could be a risky move.

    It is also a risky move to keep kicking the timeline back. Year 6,7,8 of McDavid? When will be the time?

    And an even bigger risk is the injuries to Connor. Keep keep going the timeline back and you may miss the window altogether.

  32. Ryan says:

    The old play him 18 games with the black hole of offense Looch, then trade him when he has no value.

    The Oilers have patented the reverse pump and dump… you’d almost think that they’re doing it on purpose.

  33. Ryan says:

    No, prices are too high right now.

  34. Reja says:

    Woogie63:
    If Connor’s neighbour, wanted to bet you he is back for the Boston game, how would you interrupt that?
    Asking for a friend….

    I would see if Vegas has a line then I would call my liquidator and push all in on 97.

  35. digger50 says:

    I believe it shows that Strome had some talent in him that was untapped. Todd pigeon holes players, he does not adapt well.

    Instead of trading Strome for a top 6 winger, he simply could have played Strome as a top 6 winger (or 1RW) and got much better results than the trade.

  36. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Woogie63: Probably like the Montreal GM who couldn’t get Kassian anytime on the line with Connor or the Duck’s GM after Maroon starting playing with Connor.Or the CBJ GM who is wonder what happened to Josh Anderson offense.

    – Or Kailer playing with 2 studs: who knew.

    – Put Kailer with the line mates Benson gets when he plays: results same.

  37. godot10 says:

    There are a few things that can eff up McDavid’s career. Not letting a contusion near a joint fully heal is one of them.

    #CamNeely

  38. Ryan says:

    Agreed, I think a pure rental is not a good idea due to the McDavid injury.

    I’d be on board with a player with term or a cheap rental if the Oilers don’t lose four of the next five games and McDavid’s okay.

  39. JimmyV1965 says:

    digger50:
    Yes, it could be a risky move.

    It is also a risky move to keep kicking the timeline back. Year 6,7,8 of McDavid? When will be the time?

    And an even bigger risk is the injuries to Connor. Keep keep going the timeline back and you may miss the window altogether.

    It’s almost inevitable. He’s either trading the first or someone like Broberg now or in the summer. Can’t trade it for a rental, but there’s massive holes and this team is too close to simply wait for picks to develop three or four years from now. Hope I’m wrong and he can fill the holes with lesser assets.

  40. Ben says:

    Woogie63,

    Honestly still shocked Chiarelli didn’t pay Maroon.

  41. JimmyV1965 says:

    I want to be hopeful, but can’t see how it’s possible to win this game with Archie Sheahan and plug as the second line. And I really like what these guys have done this year.

  42. Harpers Hair says:

    JimmyV1965: It’s almost inevitable. He’s either trading the first or someone like Broberg now or in the summer. Can’t trade it for a rental, but there’s massive holes and this team is too close to simply wait for picks to develop three or four years from now. Hope I’m wrong and he can fill the holes with lesser assets.

    There is an argument to be made that this season is the time to “go for it”.

    With the Pacific being so weak, winning the division and facing a weak opponent in the first round can provide a team with an easy path to the conference finals.

    In that series, you would be facing a Central team that just survived a very tough series to get out of their own division.

  43. 90s fan says:

    Complete 360: you came around to the idea we should definitely not make a trade, then realized that you were crazy to waiver on your basic instincts and are again calling for a big trade!

  44. SkatinginSand says:

    Finally, another person who understands that the blood needs to be fully gone from the muscle, to prevent the possibility of calcification of that muscle. If you are careful, no problem, but the training staff have already screwed up royally allowing him to finish the game and then skate the next day. It has nothing to do with his work ethic or desire to get back quickly.

  45. Silver Streak says:

    Do we know if Bob is playing ? They might have this as a rest game…

  46. ArmchairGM says:

    25 games left and Leon is already at 90 points.

    #Beastmode

  47. Dr. Taboggan says:

    I am inclined to agree. That being said, other than Vancouver and Edmonton, the Pacific is only going to get worse. Arizona is a mess. Knights have traded away all futures and have a mediocre D, Fleury is old. Key players in Calgary are aging, especially their D. California teams are a mess. Vancouver and Edmonton have a 2-3 year window to stomp the Pacific.

    I would trade the 1st this year for a longterm add. Russell and the first for Ehlers. Something along those lines.

  48. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Woogie63:
    If Connor’s neighbour, wanted to bet you he is back for the Boston game, how would you interrupt that?
    Asking for a friend….

    Don’t take the bet.

    Stauffer mused something similar in his “I know something, but can’t say it so I’ll allude to it so bluntly you’ll get the message” tone on Thursday.

  49. Ryan says:

    I’m wavering due to concerns over McDavid’s status…

    If everything is as stated, then pull the trigger on a cheap rental or for a player will term as soon as possible to inject some life into this roster.

    We currently have three fourth lines and that’s being generous.

    There’d be some risk with missing the playoffs and still no certainty at the deadline (unless we wait and lose the next five straight, then do nothing).

    While there’s more certainty with waiting, there’s also the opportunity cost in not obtaining help sooner.

    However, maybe McDavid’s leg is worse than we know.

    If that’s the case, there’s zero point in making a trade.

  50. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Silver Streak:
    Do we know if Bob is playing ?They might have this as a rest game…

    Nothing on daily faceoff yet.

    I hope so.

    All situations SV% for FLA this year:

    Player GP SV%
    Sam Montembeault 11 0.886
    Sergei Bobrovsky 44 0.896
    Chris Driedger 9 0.932

  51. Ben says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Don’t take the bet.

    Stauffer mused something similar in his “I know something, but can’t say it so I’ll allude to it so bluntly you’ll get the message” tone on Thursday.

    Gotta figure out a way to get across from that guy at a poker table one of these days.

  52. yeraslob says:

    Silver Streak:
    Do we know if Bob is playing ?They might have this as a rest game…

    My hockey pool has him listed as injured. Not sure it’s right…

  53. godot10 says:

    Ben:
    Woogie63,

    Honestly still shocked Chiarelli didn’t pay Maroon.

    Chiarelli ran out of money…er…cap space. It is not that he didn’t want to.

  54. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    digger50:
    I believe it shows that Strome had some talent in him that was untapped. Todd pigeon holes players, he does not adapt well.

    Instead of trading Strome for a top 6 winger, he simply could have played Strome as a top 6 winger (or 1RW) and got much better results than the trade.

    Absolutely. 100%.

  55. Clarkenstein says:

    OilClog:
    Just experienced the joys of reading that the Oilers should trade Yamahonda for Robin Lehner. The Hockey writers are a grouping of individuals that got left at various zoos because their families are fucking disgusted by them.

    YOu do realize this site is run by one of those “hockey writers” don’t you? Don’t paint everyone with the same brush brother!

  56. Harpers Hair says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    I am inclined to agree. That being said, other than Vancouver and Edmonton, the Pacific is only going to get worse. Arizona is a mess. Knights have traded away all futures and have a mediocre D, Fleury is old. Key players in Calgary are aging, especially their D. California teams are a mess. Vancouver and Edmonton have a 2-3 year window to stomp the Pacific.

    I would trade the 1st this year for a longterm add. Russell and the first for Ehlers. Something along those lines.

    I really don’t buy that Calgary’s D is getting old.

    While Giordano certainly is, Hanifin is 23, Andersson 23, Kylington 22 and Valimaki 21.

    As they transition away from Brodie and Hamonic, they should be just fine.

    I also expect, depending on how this season plays out, there’s a good chance they move Gaudreau this offseason and should get quite a haul for him.

  57. Ryan says:

    That’s right.

    It’s like with the Kris Russell contract gambit…

    Signing bonus in the last year potentially makes the contract tradable after it’s paid, provided the acquiring team doesn’t care about the cap hit, but also makes the last year of the contract buyout-proof.

  58. jp says:

    He did have signing bonuses but no clue how the get the buyout number to $6M on 20-21. He had a $2M bonus that year and $0 this season. I’d have thought the 20-21 number would be $3.48M, I don’t understand why it’s $6M…

  59. Primetime says:

    Harpers Hair,

    Agree with all you points except the idea that Johnny Hockey gets a huge haul. I think they could have at the start of this year (and thought they should have), but another weak playoff, or not even making the playoffs with a down regular season will severely affect his perception/value in the league.

    I think they will likely lose a Gaudreau trade now, but may still be a better team if they trade him

  60. Harpers Hair says:

    Erik Karlsson to miss the rest of the season with a broken thumb.

    Can you spell tank?

  61. N64 says:

    Thanks for the correct SP% ordering for the Blues and Avs.

    Hockey reference still has it backwards They might not get the Blues SP% right until the interrupted game is completed.

  62. Harpers Hair says:

    Primetime:
    Harpers Hair,

    Agree with all you points except the idea that Johnny Hockey gets a huge haul.I think they could have at the start of this year (and thought they should have), but another weak playoff, or not even making the playoffs with a down regular season will severely affect his perception/value in the league.

    I think they will likely lose a Gaudreau trade now, but may still be a better team if they trade him

    Wouldn’t surprise me if Treleving orchestrates a massive trade (he’s done them before) that sends Gaudreau to NJD in return for a forward and a first round pick. (NJD) have two).

  63. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    @SanJoseSharks
    #SJSharks defenseman Erik Karlsson has suffered a broken thumb and will be out for the remainder of the season.

  64. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    @SanJoseSharks
    #SJSharks defenseman Erik Karlsson has suffered a broken thumb and will be out for the remainder of the season.

    That is so ten minutes ago.?

  65. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ben:
    Yeah, TMac was stupid not to play Strome with Panarin more often.

    He played 2 exhibition games with McDavid, scores a goal and then essentially never played with him again.

    Of course, the middle ground would be to play him away from McDavid but also away from Lucic….

  66. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    @SanJoseSharks
    #SJSharks defenseman Erik Karlsson has suffered a broken thumb and will be out for the remainder of the season.

    The question is, can Ottawa get lucky and bad enough to have the first two picks in the draft.

  67. Sherp007 says:

    Excited to be going to the game today in Sunrise. I know I won’t be the only Oiler fan there, but might be the only attendee today who regularly enjoys this blog. Big Damn game is right. Too bad no Hockey McJesus playing today, but hope we pull out a gut check win. Cheers to LT for the blog, and from this FL oiler fan to all my other Oiler fans, Lets go Oilers!!!!! Let’s go Oilers!!!!!

    Clap clap

  68. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Clarkenstein: YOu do realize this site is run by one of those “hockey writers” don’t you?Don’t paint everyone with the same brush brother!

    I think he was referring the The Hockey Writers website: https://thehockeywriters.com/

    He is correct that many of writers on that site are pretty bad in regards to their knowledge and opinions imo.

  69. OriginalPouzar says:

    Clarkenstein: YOu do realize this site is run by one of those “hockey writers” don’t you?Don’t paint everyone with the same brush brother!

    The Hickey Writters is the name of a blog.

  70. leadfarmer says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Erik Karlsson to miss the rest of the season with a broken thumb.

    Can you spell tank?

    How does one tank when one does not have a first round pick
    Happy for the Sens though. This is a good draft for lot of lotto balls

  71. flyfish1168 says:

    Harpers Hair: I really don’t buy that Calgary’s D is getting old.

    While Giordano certainly is, Hanifin is 23, Andersson 23, Kylington 22 and Valimaki21.

    As they transition away from Brodie and Hamonic, they should be just fine.

    I also expect, depending on how this season plays out, there’s a good chance they move Gaudreau this offseason and should get quite a haul for him.

    NO, They have been trying for 3 years to rid them of Yahoo Johny. They are asking to much and no one is willing to pay. It is well known he can’t perform in the playoffs. Yahoo get one or two good season and then quiet again. Why lower than you think he is worth.

  72. flyfish1168 says:

    +1

  73. flyfish1168 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I think he was referring the The Hockey Writers website: https://thehockeywriters.com/

    He is correct that many of writers on that site are pretty bad in regards to their knowledge and opinions imo.

    They are bad as ken campbell at hockeynews. So anti Oilers he doesn’t even know what his talking about

  74. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair: Reply

    Is that the reverse engineering tank.

  75. yeraslob says:

    Harpers Hair: I really don’t buy that Calgary’s D is getting old.

    While Giordano certainly is, Hanifin is 23, Andersson 23, Kylington 22 and Valimaki21.

    As they transition away from Brodie and Hamonic, they should be just fine.

    I also expect, depending on how this season plays out, there’s a good chance they move Gaudreau this offseason and should get quite a haul for him.

    Gaudy won’t garner “quite a haul”. What GM serious about winning the Cup picks up that playoff disappearing act?
    Flames fans, lol.

  76. digger50 says:

    I do agree.

    And making a move now, to ensure playoffs is wiser than waiting to see, getting close and missing. Assuming we are talking about a keeper player.

    Having said this is the move I’d look for, I also don’t think it’s out there. There just not much on the market at fair value. It’s going to come down to the wire.

  77. Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville says:

    Well, since this is a bit of a mathy, stats related blog, if we really wanted to get nit64picky, it was technically 15 minutes.

    ???

  78. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Thanks for tipping me off to it Nitty McNitterson.

  79. jtblack says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    @SanJoseSharks
    #SJSharks defenseman Erik Karlsson has suffered a broken thumb and will be out for the remainder of the season.

    it’s OK. Karlsson only has 7 more years @ $11.5 Million

  80. buck yoakam says:

    My ottawa friends really dislike dorion and I’m thinking he is stocking the cupboards and has pulled out some incredible deals under duress with a very ultra cheap owner…who really knows the correct path…Karlsson has been underwhelming

  81. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Erik Karlsson to miss the rest of the season with a broken thumb.

    Can you spell tank?

    Why would they tank?

    Want OTT to get a better pick?

  82. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Harpers Hair: The question is, can Ottawa get lucky and bad enough to have the first two picks in the draft.

    That would be awesome and hilarious.

  83. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    OriginalPouzar: He played 2 exhibition games with McDavid, scores a goal and then essentially never played with him again.

    Of course, the middle ground would be to play him away from McDavid but also away from Lucic….

    Strome played 58.4 5v5 minutes with McDavid and outscored the competition 3-1 for a tidy 75%

  84. JimmyV1965 says:

    yeraslob: Gaudy won’t garner “quite a haul”.What GM serious about winning the Cup picks up that playoff disappearing act?
    Flames fans, lol.

    There’s a player named Jordan Eberle, I believe, who was very much accused of not showing up in the playoffs, until he scored 9pts and led the Isles in playoff scoring last year. I have no clue what Gaudreau would get in a trade. Probably a little more than Adam Larsson.

  85. leadfarmer says:

    If you can trade Boy hockey and sign Hall that would be something I would do and could easily see Calgary trying to do in offseason.
    Don’t see him getting the crazy value that Calgary thinks he has but a team that has been spurned by offensive talent like Isles or Cbus would be interested

  86. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Sherp007:
    Excited to be going to the game today in Sunrise. I know I won’t be the only Oiler fan there, but might be the only attendee today who regularly enjoys this blog. Big Damn game is right. Too bad no Hockey McJesus playing today, but hope we pull out a gut check win. Cheers to LT for the blog, and from this FL oiler fan to all my other Oiler fans, Lets go Oilers!!!!! Let’s go Oilers!!!!!

    Clap clap

    Yell at the refs for me!!

    *clapclap*

  87. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    flyfish1168: They are bad as ken campbell at hockeynews. So anti Oilers he doesn’t even know what his talking about

    Yeah, Ken Campbell is so bad he should write for that site.

  88. Ryan says:

    I can’t pull up Shattenkirk’s buyout details, but it’s a similar contract to Russell’s in that he had a signing bonus on the last year of the contract and the real dollars of that year are below the cap hit.

    The buyout cap hit is the actual cap hit minus the real dollar savings. With Russell, his buyout cap hit for his last year spikes to $3.4m due to a $1m signing bonus that year and real dollar earnings of only $2.5m.

  89. Woogie63 says:

    I keep looking at Slepyshev as a great option for next year.

    He can really skate, NHL experience, 1OV in Russia, seems to have become a better player since he has played in the KHL, right age, Left shot. Around $1M.

    Is this the left wing (I know he played RW) the team is looking for McDavid?

    I keep looking at Puljujarvi……

  90. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0: That would be awesome and hilarious.

    As it stands right now, they would be picking #3 and #6 and that #6 should get better with Karlsson out.

    I would imagine they could also tank enough to get the #3 to #2 .

    If they sell off their pending UFAs at the deadline for more picks they could dominate the draft since they also already have three second round picks.

  91. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    yeraslob: Gaudy won’t garner “quite a haul”.What GM serious about winning the Cup picks up that playoff disappearing act?
    Flames fans, lol.

    Gaudreau scored 99pts last season and 84pts 2 seasons ago.

    He’ll have 2 years left at 6.75MM.

    He’ll garner a good return.

    I doubt NJD goes for him as he doesn’t fit their rebuild cluster.

    He grew up Cherryhill NJ which is pretty close to Philadelphia and he grew up a PHI fan.

    They have lots of interesting things to trade, but currently have Giroux at 1LW, Farabee at 2LW and Van Reimsdyk, making $7MM for 3 more years, at 3LW.

    Maybe the NYI idea like another poster suggested is right. They certainly have the cap space.

  92. VanIsleOil says:

    T-A-N-K….but what does that have to do with SJ and their play….Ottawa gets the pick.
    Need any more help with spelling, I am glad to help.

  93. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Harpers Hair: As it stands right now, they would be picking #3 and #6 and that #6 should get better with Karlsson out.

    I would imagine they could also tank enough to get the #3 to #2 .

    If they sell off their pending UFAs at the deadline for more picks they could dominate the draft since they also already have three second round picks.

    Deeeeeeeeeep draft too.

    Will they do a MTL in 2007 when they got McDonaugh, Pacioretty and Subban in the top 43 or will they do an EDM in 2007 where they got Gagner, Plante, and Nash?

    Also,

    Oilers’ picks were all before MTL’s in that draft.

    Man.

    Also,

    2020 draft is 2003, 2015 deep.

    Much deeper than 2007…although MTL found value in a big way.

  94. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Gaudreau scored 99pts last season and 84pts 2 seasons ago.

    He’ll have 2 years left at 6.75MM.

    He’ll garner a good return.

    I doubt NJD goes for him as he doesn’t fit their rebuild cluster.

    He grew up Cherryhill NJ which is pretty close to Philadelphia and he grew up a PHI fan.

    They have lots of interesting things to trade, but currently have Giroux at 1LW, Farabee at 2LW and Van Reimsdyk, making $7MM for 3 more years, at 3LW.

    Maybe the NYI idea like another poster suggested is right.They certainly have the cap space.

    I wonder if the Flames would take Subban if NJ retained half.

  95. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Woogie63:
    I keep looking at Slepyshev as a great option for next year.

    He can really skate, NHL experience, 1OV in Russia, seems to have become a better player since he has played in the KHL, right age, Left shot.Around $1M.

    Is this the left wing (I know he played RW) the team is looking for McDavid?

    I keep looking at Puljujarvi……

    Love to see Sleppy back here.

    Unrated part of Drai’s playoff heater.

    I think he’d flourish under Tippett.

    #TeamSleppy

  96. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Deeeeeeeeeep draft too.

    Will they do a MTL in 2007 when they got McDonaugh, Pacioretty and Subban in the top 43 or will they do an EDM in 2007 where they got Gagner, Plante, and Nash?

    Also,

    Oilers’ picks were all before MTL’s in that draft.

    Man.

    They are also in a position to take on a stinky contract or two in return for more picks.

    Cap Friendly has them with $40 million in cap space next season BEFORE the cap increase.

    Lordy.

  97. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Harpers Hair: I wonder if the Flames would take Subban if NJ retained half.

    I don’t think NJD trades Subban.

    He’s not having a great counting stats season, but he’s their best fancystats Dman and is playing the toughs with the re-activated body of Andy Greene.

    NJD may trade Vatanen as a rental and Severson can’t play those minutes.

  98. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Harpers Hair: They are also in a position to take on a stinky contract or two in return for more picks.

    Cap Friendly has them with $40 million in cap space next season BEFORE the cap increase.

    Lordy.

    Their owner doesn’t have any money to burn though, that’s a big deal.

    They can take on more cap than actual dollars.

    Also,

    OTT has in this draft:

    OTT 1st
    SJS 1st

    OTT 2nd
    CBJ 2nd
    DAL 2nd

    That’s pretty slick already before they sell (if they sell) Pageau and maybe Duclair and Demelo.

    I like Demelo a lot. Never grabbed a top 4 job in SJS but his fancies are good in OTT and he’s RHD.

    In retrospect SJS should have flushed Braun earlier and went with Demelo

  99. Alpine says:

    I think Gaudreau ends up in Philly. Fletcher loves a big splash and they can move JvR and/or Voracek 2 years down the road when they would need to re-up Johnny and Couturier. Giroux might be cheaper to re-sign by then. They have the prospects to make an offer, he’s from the area, it all adds up.

    Another team to watch on that front would be the Rangers. Lots of assets they could move.

  100. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Their owner doesn’t have any money to burn though, that’s a big deal.

    They can take on more cap than actual dollars.

    Also,

    OTT has in this draft:

    OTT 1st
    SJS 1st

    OTT 2nd
    CBJ 2nd
    DAL 2nd

    That’s pretty slick already before they sell (if they sell) Pageau and maybe Duclair and Demelo.

    I like Demelo a lot.Never grabbed a top 4 job in SJS but his fancies are good in OTT and he’s RHD.

    In retrospect SJS should have flushed Braun earlier and went with Demelo

    He’s going to have to spend just to get to the cap floor so it’ll be interesting to see if he uses the cash to try and be competitive next season or to load up for the future.

    They have a number of players on ELC’s who are likely NHL ready in Batherson, Josh Norris, Erik Branstrom and Logan Brown.

    They only have 8 players under contract for next season so it’s like having a blank canvas to build a team.

  101. Ben says:

    jtblack: it’s OK.Karlsson only has 7 more years @ $11.5 Million

    Look at that whole roster on capfriendly. Wilson’s gonna be screaming ‘amnesty’ like a drunk-driving diplomat.

  102. jtblack says:

    In retrospect SJS should have ….

    Dough Wilson had a great run and his work should be commended. But his work over the last couple years has been very poor for the most part …

    He Locked up Jones @ $5.75 and he has 4 more years left and has been below average.

    He traded a 1st and pieces to lock up E Kane; who has 5 more years @ $7 Mil. He’s been decent on the ice, but who knows about the rest of it.

    He traded a 1st and 2 – 2nds and some parts (Demelo, Tierny, J Norris) to lock up E Karlsson. Karlsson has 7 more years @ $11,500,000. That’s a massive number.

    Throw in 34 old Burns with 5 more years @ $8 Mil.

    And 32 year old Vlasic with 6 more years @ $7 Mil.

    Then top it off with 30 year old Couture with 6 more years @ $8 Mil.

    Add it all up and Doug Wilson has created quite a mess. It forced him to lose good players like Donskoi and move on from his Captain …

    In the Short term, it isn’t working. The real problem is it looks down right awful going forward.

  103. Darth Tu says:

    Harpers Hair: I wonder if the Flames would take Subban if NJ retained half.

    I know he has no NMCs or NTCs, but surely a move to Calgary doesn’t fit into team Vonn/Subban’s celebrity couple plan?

  104. Darth Tu says:

    For the Oilers, Flames and Canucks I’d say San Jose future nightmare looks excellent.

  105. jtblack says:

    Darth Tu: I know he has no NMCs or NTCs, but surely a move to Calgary doesn’t fit into team Vonn/Subban’s celebrity couple plan?

    They can downhill skill @ C.O.P. ..certainly that’s an attraction …

  106. Lowetide says:

    I would prefer to see Puljujarvi back here, or dealt for a young forward, but Ottawa’s second round pick would have value on the draft floor, day two.

  107. yeraslob says:

    JimmyV1965: There’s a player named Jordan Eberle, I believe, who was very much accused of not showing up in the playoffs, until he scored 9pts and led the Isles in playoff scoring last year.I have no clue what Gaudreau would get in a trade. Probably a little more than Adam Larsson.

    Eberle didn’t show up the ONE time Edm made the playoffs. Gaudy has a history of not showing up… he can’t handle the playoffs, he’s wimpy.

  108. jp says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Deeeeeeeeeep draft too.

    Will they do a MTL in 2007 when they got McDonaugh, Pacioretty and Subban in the top 43 or will they do an EDM in 2007 where they got Gagner, Plante, and Nash?

    Gagner, Plante and Nash in the top 21!!!

    Oy.

  109. Ben says:

    Lowetide:
    I would prefer to see Puljujarvi back here, or dealt for a young forward, but Ottawa’s second round pick would have value on the draft floor, day two.

    KH has such limited walking around money. Hope he consolidates it to buy a scorer.

    I’d prefer a deal where they trade their own 2nd for a Puljujarvi.

  110. Reja says:

    Darth Tu:
    For the Oilers, Flames and Canucks I’d say San Jose future nightmare looks excellent.

    But. But. You see the mountains

  111. Munny says:

    Two very good shifts in a row.

  112. Munny says:

    Ohh Nuge.

    Don’t know ho many quality chances we will get this game, gotta bury ones we get.

  113. jp says:

    Woogie63,

    Woodguy v2.0: Love to see Sleppy back here.

    Unrated part of Drai’s playoff heater.

    I think he’d flourish under Tippett.

    #TeamSleppy

    It would be great to see.

    I wouldn’t expect him to play top 6, but his NHLE this year is 50. That’s a fair jump up from Nygard and Haas there were added this year, and he’s bigger and younger than those two as well.

    I also wonder if Sleppy’s teammate Grigorenko would be a nice target for 3C. He has size and pedigree and has really blossomed the last couple of years in the KHL.

    Grigorenko turns 26 in May, and I think is a FA (from his KHL deal) this summer. NHLE is 52 this year and was 62 last season. He was also a 1st all-star and lead the playoffs and goals and points last year. That *looks like 2/3 of a plus 3rd line.

    Puljujarvi returning to the Oilers would be great too, could be 3/3 of a real 3rd line for next season.

  114. Ben says:

    Ugly hockey. These fans should demand their $12.50 back.

  115. OriginalPouzar says:

    This is working out well – couple hours in Sao Paulo – tucked in to the Star Alliance lounge and got the game on my GameCenter – should be able to watch the rest of the first and the 2nd.

    Star Alliance lounge is nice.

    Would have been a big goal by Chiasson on that breakaway.

  116. Harpers Hair says:

    Ben:
    Ugly hockey. These fans should demand their $12.50 back.

    Then they would also need to return their free hotdogs and sodas.

  117. Munny says:

    Ben:
    Ugly hockey. These fans should demand their $12.50 back.

    This is exactly the kind of game Oiler fans should be wanting to see.

  118. Ben says:

    That’s how they getchya.

  119. Ice Sage says:

    Larsson. Luv dat guy

  120. OriginalPouzar says:

    Top line with a massive shift – Nuge, so close from the slot.

    Yama and Nuge win battles behind the net and the puck goes back to Larsson for a 1-0 lead.

    Think Yama should get the 2nd assist there, in addition to Nuge.

  121. Munny says:

    Larsson!!!

  122. OriginalPouzar says:

    Benson with a nice look there in front for Sheahan – he’s got the vision and the skill.

  123. Darth Tu says:

    jtblack: They can downhill skill @ C.O.P. ..certainly that’s an attraction …

    I’m sure we can tempt them here with Edmonton Ski Club

  124. russ99 says:

    Ben,

    LT if he were signed, that could be possible, but much of why Jesse’s trade value cratered in December is due to the acquiring team has to deal with Jesse’s agent, with another year in Finland if they don’t get what they want a real possibility

  125. Ben says:

    But noticeably not fleet of foot, to be sure.

  126. Harpers Hair says:

    Evander Kane going off repeatedly on Twitter after receiving a three game suspension.

    Don’t think this will end well for him.

  127. Ice Sage says:

    BS call. JJ a victim of game management.

  128. russ99 says:

    digger50:
    I believe it shows that Strome had some talent in him that was untapped. Todd pigeon holes players, he does not adapt well.

    Instead of trading Strome for a top 6 winger, he simply could have played Strome as a top 6 winger (or 1RW) and got much better results than the trade.

    I maintain Strome would still be here if McLelllan stuck with him at RW and not had the bright idea of turning him into a defensive center. He has a good offensive zone game, but couldn’t cash for a long stretch.

  129. russ99 says:

    That was an ugly period, but I’m glad we got the goal.

  130. Munny says:

    that was a dangerous turnover in our own end with a minute to go

  131. OriginalPouzar says:

    Missed the first 7 minutes but Oil looked awesome for the rest of the first. Solid PK and, aside from some pressure post PP, Oilers carried the play and got the lead.

    That top line just keeps rolling – Drai and Nuge 1st and 4th in NHL points in 2020 and Kailer staying right up near PPG and is like plus 12 or something.

    Sample size alert but, at some point last week, Kailer was 4th in the NHL in 5 on 5 P/60 (all his points were at 5 on 5 as he wasn’t getting PP time until McDavid got hurt).

  132. Ben says:

    First intermission thought experiment:

    With 35 years of advances in sports science, nutrition, training, coaching, goaltending, etc., who would win a head-to-head matchup between the ’83 Oilers and the Oiler team playing today?

  133. Lowetide says:

    After One

    1-0 Oilers
    11-9 Edmonton shots
    21-13 Edmonton Corsi five on five

    ==

    Impressive opening period, a determined team selling out to make the play when needed. I have no doubt the Panthers will push in the second. Nice goal by Larsson, Leon’s line strong and I liked Benson playing with Sheahan and Archibald too.

    A nice first 20.

    Florida got plenty of life from the PP, Oilers need to be solid to start the second.

  134. Rebillled says:

    russ99,

    Ugly but we i thought that was a great start, Should be 1-0 and is.

  135. Woogie63 says:

    Ben:
    But noticeably not fleet of foot, to be sure.

    I saw two back checking examples where he looked pretty fast

  136. Reja says:

    russ99:
    That was an ugly period, but I’m glad we got the goal.

    I thought it was a great period the boy’s brought their lunch pails to work today. Bullshit penalty changed the momentum at the end of the period, need to get it back and gut out a win.

  137. russ99 says:

    Ben,

    If goaltending was more modern, 83 no doubt. Also the idea of Coffey, Kurri and Gretzky playing together with no two-line pass rule is scary.

    If you watch those old games, the goaltending on both sides is shockingly bad.

    The butterfly changed everything.

  138. Munny says:

    Good period, went a stretch of over 9 minutes without allowing a shot against.

    I will be happy if we can somehow take this home 1-0.

    (Not that we should go into a shell)

  139. Lowetide says:

    russ99:
    Ben,

    LT if he were signed, that could be possible, but much of why Jesse’s trade value cratered in December is due to the acquiring team has to deal with Jesse’s agent, with another year in Finland if they don’t get what they want a real possibility

    If JP spends 11 seconds holding out with a new team on his second contract, he’ll never play in the NHL again. His agent knows it. The contract isn’t an issue. The Oilers are the issue.

  140. Ben says:

    Yeah, I also wonder about the mobility of those non-Coffey d-men.

  141. Rebillled says:

    Just wanna thank LT for the 1977 Def Jam reference from last post.

    She gone.

  142. russ99 says:

    Lowetide: If JP spends 11 seconds holding out with a new team on his second contract, he’ll never play in the NHL again. His agent knows it. The contract isn’t an issue. The Oilers are the issue.

    Hope so for his sake.

  143. Rebillled says:

    This team hasn’t had two captains for a long time.

    Hart for sure. What a deal.

  144. Oil2Oilers says:

    Benson made two skill player in the NHL type passes in that period that I noticed. One that lead to a tricky zone exit, one that was broken up in the offensive zone but would of led to a HDSC. It brought me hope for his future, and signals the grip on his stick might be easing as he gets used to the NHL

  145. OilersFuture says:

    Ben:
    First intermission thought experiment:

    With 35 years of advances in sports science, nutrition, training, coaching, goaltending, etc., who would win a head-to-head matchup between the ’83 Oilers and the Oiler team playing today?

    I think this team could beat the 83 Oiler’s. It would be a good match-up, but Gretzky, Messier and Coffey are all nearly 60 years-old now …

  146. Harpers Hair says:

    Lowetide: If JP spends 11 seconds holding out with a new team on his second contract, he’ll never play in the NHL again. His agent knows it. The contract isn’t an issue. The Oilers are the issue.

    If the draft is as deep as everyone seems to think and Ottawa identifies a player they really like, I can see them moving two of their three (so far) second round picks to move into the first round again.

    If they do sell off Pageau, Duclair, Hainsey Boroweicki and Anderson at the deadline, they could well end up with another 3 or 4 picks.

  147. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oilers are playing a great game so far – a great road game and a great team effort game for the depleted lineup.

    Full effort from all 19 players so far – solid work ethic, making smart plays, short passes, pucks towards the offensive net and, so far, few big defensive mistakes.

    Tippett hockey!

  148. Younger Oil says:

    These refs are absolutely disgusting today, for both sides, what the fuck is going on?

  149. leadfarmer says:

    I’ve said this before but
    I’d dump Russell
    Trade Larsson
    And resign Benning as the Ricki D this offseason

  150. OilClog says:

    Sports betting overlords

  151. Ben says:

    That seemed like the right call to me.

  152. Woogie63 says:

    Dan O’Halloran would benefit from narrower stripe pattern.

  153. OilClog says:

    Ricki will maul you for 2 of those 3 suggestions

  154. Munny says:

    zone entries continue to be a thing on the PP

  155. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice to see Benson with some PP2 time – too bad Klef’s stick exploded.

    Drai’s breakaway was at the end of a shift over 2 min (entire PP) – no gas left.

  156. Younger Oil says:

    There were two hooks and a slash on that breakaway, what the hell?!?!

  157. OilClog says:

    WTH was Gagner thinking putting back behind his net when Klef has no stick good Gordie price almighty gags

  158. leadfarmer says:

    The one rule change I want to see is a penalty on making contact with your stick on a player who has a step on you

  159. Munny says:

    Was that Jones headman pass right between the opponents legs lol?

  160. leadfarmer says:

    That’s ok He’s in too much shock on how Fayne and manning aren’t played 25 min a night

  161. Oil2Oilers says:

    i enjoy the Benning Jones defensive pair and hope to see them for the rest of this year and all of next. Having a third pairing that can both pass and skate is a revelation.

  162. OilClog says:

    Little do you know that Fistric has been visiting his cave with due care.

  163. Oil2Oilers says:

    Agreed

  164. leadfarmer says:

    Could we trade for Granlund yet?

  165. Darth Tu says:

    And Gravel isn’t in the league

  166. OilClog says:

    Some will try to suggest JJ still isn’t engaging

  167. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Is there no longer a penalty for instigating on Acciari?
    Also,
    Is there no longer a game misconduct on Benning for not having your jersey tied down?

  168. Harpers Hair says:

    leadfarmer:
    Could we trade for Granlund yet?

    He just scored for Nashville against the Blues.

    If the Predators win (they’re up 4-3 at the moment) they will only be 1 point out of a wildcard spot with multiple games in hand.

    Don’t think the’ll be selling.

  169. Reja says:

    OilClog:
    Some will try to suggest JJ still isn’t engaging

    It’s either engage or off to the Gulag leagues

  170. Munny says:

    They should Zamboni this ice every commercial break

  171. Rebillled says:

    What a fucking save!

  172. Munny says:

    Whew, thank you Koski

  173. OilClog says:

    That’s what I keep saying about Alex Chiasson

  174. Munny says:

    FLA’s best shift of the night

  175. jake70 says:

    P. Russell on that tire fire a minute or 2 ago…..on the half wall and starts to fly the zone and his D has noone to pass to ….. IQ man.

  176. leadfarmer says:

    Harpers Hair: He just scored for Nashville against the Blues.

    If the Predators win (they’re up 4-3 at the moment) they will only be 1 point out of a wildcard spot with multiple games in hand.

    Don’t think the’ll be selling.

    He’s been a horrible fit there and if they can get value for him they probably will
    He has been heating up lately though

  177. Munny says:

    Another huge save from Koski, this time late in the period. Would’ve been a backbreaker.

  178. OriginalPouzar says:

    2nd period wasn’t as good as the first but I’ll certainly take a 1-0 lead on the road going in to the third.

    Lets finish this off!

  179. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    2nd period wasn’t as good as the first but I’ll certainly take a 1-0 lead on the road going in to the third.

    Lets finish this off!

    Dig deep gang, play the system and wait for the odd man rush to get some breathing room.

  180. delooper says:

    I think Benson is going to have a slow transition to the NHL. I was skeptical of him when he was in the minors but he appears to continue to improve. The worst thing that could happen to him is if people get their expectations too high, too quickly.

  181. Harpers Hair says:

    Nashville wins in regulation.

    Now only 1 point out of a wildcard spot with 3 games in hand on Arizona and two on Calgary.

    Looks like they are going to be players in the race.

  182. jonrmcleod says:

    Natural Stat Trick has the Oilers having zero HDCF. How is that possible? They had 2 breakaways.

  183. theDjdj says:

    jonrmcleod:
    Natural Stat Trick has the Oilers having zero HDCF. How is that possible? They had 2 breakaways.

    I don’t think Leon had a SOG. But Chiassons shot 100% a HDSC. Always been a little suspicious in how that stat is tracked

  184. SwedishPoster says:

    Couple of tire fire shifts there at the end. Koski coming up big. Other than that a strong effort through the first two. The lack of quality amongst forwards is obvious but they are battling and checking like demons in all zones. Benson is having his strongest showing to date, finds himself around the puck much more than in his first couple of games and when he has the puck he does good things with it. Still needs to get involved even more but it’s a step in the right direction.
    Klef and Larsson are playing great. The first line as well. Yamamoto is forechecking himself into Ekblad’s nightmares.
    But even the lesser lines are finding chances, Chiasson probably should have finished at least one of his big opportunities. Nurse is having a pretty scrambly game, playing with a lot of risk, as is Bear, would like for them to reel it in a bit for the third.

  185. Ryan says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Nashville wins in regulation.

    Now only 1 point out of a wildcard spot with 3 games in hand on Arizona and two on Calgary.

    Looks like they are going to be players in the race.

    Wonder what thoughts are bouncing around in Chayka’s head right now.

  186. Reja says:

    delooper:
    I think Benson is going to have a slow transition to the NHL. I was skeptical of him when he was in the minors but he appears to continue to improve.The worst thing that could happen to him is if people get their expectations too high, too quickly.

    We want results. We want results.

  187. Ice Sage says:

    Big Goal.

  188. Munny says:

    It’s a Drai Heat.

    That early 3rd period goal with those two huge late saves by Koski in the 2nd is a big time turn of events.

  189. Ryan says:

    That was a laughable penalty call.

  190. Munny says:

    Only two, thank the gords

  191. Ben says:

    Imagine a professional sports league where the presence or amount of blood determines the severity of an in-game foul. Absolute Calvinball.

  192. leadfarmer says:

    Ryan: Wonder what thoughts are bouncing around in Chayka’s head right now.

    Very curious if he admits his mistake and gets assets back at trade deadline or be too proud and lose him for nothing this offseason
    Hall admitted he like the Tavares process. I’d say the chance of him signing before July 1 at 5% and dropping

  193. Munny says:

    colossal save

  194. russ99 says:

    Koskinen is saving our bacon tonight.

  195. Ben says:

    Munny: It’s a Drai Heat.

    Amazing.

  196. Oil2Oilers says:

    One of the more enjoyable afternoon games I’ve ever seen the Oilers play. They are not a talented lineup right now but they are wide awake and engaged this game.

  197. Darth Tu says:

    The longer this Draisaitl contract goes on, the more it looks like daylight robbery.

  198. SwedishPoster says:

    Munny:
    colossal save

    Think you mean Kolossal.

  199. Ice Sage says:

    Nice shot. Oilers sagging.

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