Oilers sign Haas, fans haapy

Gaetan Haas is a wildly popular player for a man who scored just five goals in his first NHL season. I did the season ending grades for The Athletic and had Haas and Jujhar Khaira with the same grade. It looked to me at that time, and does today, that only one of the two will be back next season. Interesting addition.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, check it out here.

  • New Lowetide: Can the Oilers find Connor McDavid’s ideal winger this summer?
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: The two coaches who had the biggest influence on Dave Tippett
  • New Jonathan Willis: The 5 reasons why the Oilers re-signed Gaetan Haas
  • New Jonathan Willis: Can (and should) the Oilers trade Kris Russell?
  • Jonathan Willis: How Edmonton could have left 2010 draft with both Taylor Hall and Ryan Johansen
  • Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto’s NHL comparables offer Oilers fans hope for the future
  • Lowetide: Top 20 prospect update: A lot of movement and some impressive graduations
  • Lowetide: Mavrik Bourque a quality option for the Oilers in the draft
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Inside the franchise-altering decision to pick Leon Draisaitl over Sam Bennett
  • Lowetide: Adam Larsson’s Oilers future uncertain as ‘sexy’ options emerge
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: One-on-one with Wayne Gretzky: On the time he visited Moscow during the Cold War
  • Jonathan Willis and Lowetide: Discount forward options the Oilers could pursue in free agency
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Oh my God, Edmonton’s picking first’: An oral history of the 2015 NHL draft lottery
  • Lowetide: Comparison of Oilers, Flames drafts 2010-19 closer than it should be
  • Lowetide: The most potent lines in Oilers history
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: On the time Dave Semenko fought Muhammad Ali
  • Lowetide: Why Jan Mysak could be a value pick for the Oilers at the 2020 Draft
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers overcame malice in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver to join the NHL
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Remembering Jacques Plante’s brief tenure with the Oilers at age 45
  • Lowetide: Oilers need to find (or get) real value in William Lagesson

Many of you have taken advantage of the 90-day free trial this week, so I wanted to remind everyone a final time that clicking on the story link takes you directly to the free trial. And thanks to those who joined this week.

50-MAN ROSTER (37)

Riley Sheaham, Tyler Ennis, Patrick Russell, Mike Smith, Mike Green, Markus Granlund, Brandon Manning, Tomas Jurco, Brad Malone, Josh Currie, Keegan Lowe and Shane Starrett are the remaining UFA’s.

I wonder if Khaira is moved out, with Sheahan signing and the Oilers running McDavid-Draisaitl and Sheahan on the checking line with Haas the energy line pivot. I like Haas’ speed, his ability to draw penalties and interrupt sorties. He didn’t score enough, his faceoff totals aren’t fab, and I wonder if he lands on a line (eventually) with a lefty center. That would allow each man to take strong side faceoffs. One thing about Haas? He didn’t play much against elites (132 minutes, 26 percent of his overall five on five time according to Puck IQ) but he performed well in those minutes:

If you had to offload one of these men, who would it be? Khaira’s penalty killing is my checkdown for keeping him, but is quality PK work enough to keep a player on the roster? Suspect we’re about to find out.

2008 Harvest Moon

The Edmonton Oilers were one of the quietest teams in the NHL this weekend at the draft. The offer sheet signing of Dustin Penner (and subsequent lay down by Anaheim) meant that Edmonton would be standing in the shadows for much of the heart of this draft.

Compounding the problem was the inability to acquire a draft pick in round 2 or 3. Looking at the transactions it appears as though many teams were willing to trade picks but lesser picks in this year’s draft were part of the asking price.

Simply put, the Oilers didn’t have the currency required to get in the game based on the facts before us. One quibble with that statement would be that the New York Rangers acquired pick #90 with a prospect “in the range” of Jean-Francois Jacques. On a day when quality was available well into the 4th round it might have been an opportunity missed as Jacques will be waiver eligible this fall if and when he is sent away.

Round One: RW Jordan Eberle- A perfect combination. A strong argument can be made that Eberle was the best player available and he certainly addressed a need (shooter) in the system. He’s a May 1990 and 16 (tied for 4th in the WHL) of his 42 goals (tied for 4th in the WHL) came on the powerplay. A quality pick and immediately one of the 5 best prospects in the system (I’ll rank them all next weekend with a new top 20).

Round Two: None. Kevin Prendergast stated the price was so ridiculous they decided to sit and wait where they were. Kevin Lowe said they might have moved up had they pulled the trigger on the 2 needs for the NHL team (top 2line F and toughness) but the extra NHL and fringe talent (Stoll, Torres, Pouliot, Schremp, Jacques) was held back for another day.

Round Three: None. There was still quality on the table at this time and most certainly the Bourret trade at #90 is a tell that the Oilers could have been in the mix (the two teams involved, NYR and Phoenix, are “Oiler friendly” and one imagines Edmonton decided not to offer a superior talent to Bourret which is not a difficult task). We all have our opinions, but I think Edmonton needed to pay their way in to the third round and pick up another asset with Jacques. Perhaps I’m overvaluing the player, but Bourret is no screaming hell I’ll tell you that much right now.

Round Four: D Johan Motin. A solid, if unspectacular pick and generally speaking we adopt this player type as our own when the Oilers brass give the seal of approval. Stay at home type with size and a mean streak, he apparently can be exposed in areas and is no sure thing. Still he’s rather safe for the 4th round and my bet is he’ll play at some point in time with the big club.

Round Five: LW Phillippe Cornet. His scouting report reads like a pure tweener. He’s skilled but he isn’t fast, he’s got some try but isn’t overly physical. Somewhat similar to Stephane Goulet at first glance, but players with his resume taken in the fifth round do not have a terrific history of success. This is where the Kyle Brodziak’s of the world, the plumbers, find their homes and begin the long process of grinding themselves into useful role players. A real long shot from here.

Round Six: C Teemu Hartikainen. This is the type of player who can get somewhere from this point in the draft. Good size and strength combination, he has feet of clay but some pluck and desire. Finns seem to be genetically predisposed to playing well in the North American style and based on his resume this fellow would seem like a worthy candidate. The third most valuable player taken by the Oilers this weekend.

Round Seven: D Jordan Bendfeld. Tough as nails enforcer who will go right to pro (he’s a draft re-entry, former Coyote selection). This is an organizational hire who someone in management likes for what might be a variety of reasons. There are probably 100 kids with more talent that didn’t get drafted today and another 100 with the same talent who could be signed as minor league free agents tomorrow. I don’t think these kinds of picks are terribly wise simply because it’s a bullet in the organizational gun and you might as well pick a “draft and follow” player who may emerge as something else again one year from now. Having said that, if this were my kid Lowe had just drafted I’d be crying on the deck with a beer in my hand right now so what the hell let’s leave it alone.

The Oilers weekend came and went and we’re still left with the need for a shooter and some grit on the big club and a plethora of players who are NHL players or near NHL players with not enough deck chairs for the fall dance. Among the things that are more likely today than they were a week ago are Marty Reasoner being passed over because of roster problems, JF Jacques hitting the waiver wire and Curtis Glencross finding a new home. Nothing really got done but that Eberle kid is a terrific story and looks like a player.

We’re porridge.

Quick notes on 2008 from 2020

Looking back, I was fairly obsessed with getting back into the second and third round, while NHL teams also correctly valued those picks more than J.F. Jacques. The second round had some NHL goalies (Jacob Markstrom, Jake Allen) along with talented skaters like Roman Josi, Justin Schultz, Derek Stepan, Travis Hamonic and Marco Scandella. The third round was less abundant, but Adam Henrique, Zack Smith and Michael Stone were available.

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118 Responses to "Oilers sign Haas, fans haapy"

  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    Haas’ primary skills last year were:

    – to be an even player (essentially) with almost no time with either McDavid or Drai – like almost none.

    – drawing 14 penalties (and taking only 3).

    My question (and I spoke a bit about this yesterday with McCurdy and SuperNova) is if drawing penalties is a repeatable skill for non-elites? Dustin Brown was used as a positive example.

  2. OriginalPouzar says:

    Khaira, Haas and, if signed, Sheahan, are solid options for 4C but, no, I cannot get on board with Sheahan as the 3C – that’s the role he played for most of the current season and aren’t we all settled that its the one key roster spot where an upgrade is needed?

    Sheahan did a fine job there over the year but its the same as Rusty playing 2RD – he was able to play there and it wasn’t team cratering but he’s playing out of position.

    I’m also not in favor of moving Khaira unless value is coming back – he’s at $1.2M, has some versatility and his PK ability is material. I’ve heard that Haas killed penalties in the Swiss league so maybe its a skill he can develop at the NHL level but Khaira is already there, at a high level.

    As for offence, yes .8 P/60 for both Khaira and Haas this season but, as has been pointed out yesterday (JP I think), Khaira has been at 1.3 P/60 the few years prior.

    At this point, I think Sheahan is not going to be re-signed.

  3. OriginalPouzar says:

    Eberle certainly covered the 22nd overall draft bet.

    The next time the Oilers chose 22nd overall, they chose Kailer Yamamoto, he’s starting to cover that bet early as well.

    The Oilers will likely draft 20th or 23rd this year – how do they move to the 22nd spot?

  4. Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR says:

    Kinda running out of spots. Ennis and Sheahan might be on the outside looking in even if they get a compliance buyout of Neal. They’re hopefully going to upgrade 3C spot, which likely bumps out Sheahan.

    If Green could play 2nd pair, could they possibly trade Larsson for Kasperi Kapanen. A first line of AA, CMD, and KK would be likely the fastest trio in the league. KK also kills penalties, and brings the defensive conscience LT mentions in The Athletic today (free trial for me too).

    To me, there will be no better time to trade Laesson than this summer.

  5. Sunnyboy says:

    By eye , Khaira needs to go, been too long in one place. His give a hoot meter has a bent needle or worse and intensity appears lacking. Years of not taking big enuf steps find him past the last chance Texaco but still in the town limits. Space is needed in the bottom of the roster for better players, KH needs room to wheel.
    Haas skates well, will have a better 2nd year in NA, ready for an expanded role.

  6. jp says:

    My guess is Haas, Khaira and Sheahan (or similar) all return. They’re good cover if Holland can’t find a 3C upgrade and they’re cheap enough for all to fill 4/5C and 4/5W slots. All 3 aren’t likely to be regulars (on a 100% healthy team) but I don’t see why there isn’t room for them on the 23-man roster.

  7. dessert1111 says:

    Out of the UFAs, I’d bring back Ennis and Sheahan, and Currie for depth. Green and Smith maybe depending on other options, price points and if a couple guys can be offloaded.

    My bet is Haas works on his core strength this summer so he doesn’t fall down so much. Does seem to have a knack for drawing penalties, and I’d be surprised if he doesn’t see more PK rotation if he’s in the lineup.

  8. Silver Streak says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR,

    Absolutely no way I`m resigning Green…..he is long past his best by date. He never was known for his skating…he never played a heavy game….he always could, and still can, pass the puck and play some PP time…..but God help us if a jailbreak occurs….no way he get back in time. We have a much younger and cheaper version of Green ready and waiting in Bouchard….time to move on from yesterdays man.

  9. Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR says:

    Silver Streak:
    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR,

    Absolutely no way I`m resigning Green…..he is long past his best by date. He never was known for his skating…he never played a heavy game….he always could, and still can, pass the puck and play some PP time…..but God help us if a jailbreak occurs….no way he get back in time. We have a much younger and cheaper version of Green ready and waiting in Bouchard….time to move on from yesterdays man.

    I’m not bullish on signing Green either, but IF they were able to swap Larsson in a deal for Kapanen, he might be able to bridge the gap until Bouchard can play steady top 4 minutes. I’m just a big Kapanen fan to be honest, and Toronto has had interest in Larsson in the past. I do feel that it’s not smart to walk Larsson up to UFA, or to sign him for 1 penny more than he’s making now. But one of those options will take place unless they trade him, and this summer is when it makes the most sense.

  10. dustrock says:

    I guess I just don’t see the point in resigning Haas at this point. Is there something to be said for waiting until the (true) offseason?

    Obviously his deal isn’t going to cripple the team but just more contracts for guys who don’t move the needle.

    We don’t have a bunch of cap room. I guess the timing is just funny to me.

  11. Harpers Hair says:

    James Mirtle has a deep dive into every team’s cap situation up at the Athletic.

    Worth a read.

    https://theathletic.com/1765324/2020/04/29/mirtle-ranking-every-nhl-teams-salary-cap-situation-from-best-to-worst/?source=user_shared_article

  12. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Haas’ primary skills last year were:

    – to be an even player (essentially) with almost no time with either McDavid or Drai – like almost none.

    – drawing 14 penalties (and taking only 3).

    My question (and I spoke a bit about this yesterday with McCurdy and SuperNova) is if drawing penalties is a repeatable skill for non-elites?Dustin Brown was used as a positive example.

    It does seem to be.

    The link below should bring you to NST. All forwards >500 minutes in all situations which nicely gives 381 players (essentially 12 forwards per team).

    https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=y&team=ALL&pos=F&loc=B&toi=500&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

    Haas was 16th in the NHL in penalties drawn/60 minutes (1.53 penalties/60). The median number for all forwards was ~0.75/60, so Haas was drawing penalties about twice as often as the average player.

    If you sort for penalties/60 and look at the individual players over their career (I just did it for some examples on the high and low end) the rate of penalties drawn was surprisingly consistent (after you link to a player you need to switch a pull-down from “counts” to “rate”, at least on my device).

    Just a couple of examples:
    Garnett Hathaway was first in the NHL this year with 2.95 drawn/60. He’s been over 2.1/60 every other year of his career.
    Brad Marchand was 5th with 1.94/60. He’s never been below 1.15/60 in his career (remember, 0.75 is average)
    Loui Eriksson was last with 0.1 drawn/60. He was better than average earlier in his career but hasn’t bee over 0.7/60 in the past 8 seasons (and declining).
    Nick Bonino was 2nd worst at 0.16/60. His best season in the last 9 was 0.65/60.

    It’s definitely a repeatable skill as far as I can tell. Hopefully he doesn’t bulk up too much 🙂

  13. jp says:

    dustrock: Obviously his deal isn’t going to cripple the team but just more contracts for guys who don’t move the needle.
    We don’t have a bunch of cap room. I guess the timing is just funny to me.

    This is the same concern some had with Holland’s moves last summer, and it’s no more real a concern now than it was then.

    Contracts under $1.065M (whatever the bury-able amount is) do not affect the cap. If those players aren’t ultimately among the 23 best skaters their cap hits do not affect the Oilers salary cap. There’s virtually no negative to a signing like this.

  14. OriginalPouzar says:

    Confirmed that Theodor Lennström has been signed to a one-year ELC.

    My assumption is that he plays top 4 left side with Sammy in the Bake but outside chance he’ll fight with Willie for a roster spot (assumption that Rusty is not on the roster).

  15. defmn says:

    The deck chairs are filling up and one of the questions I have that I asked yesterday, after word of the Haas signing, is what we know about Holland’s history with regard to summer UfA signings.

    Specifically if last summer’s shotgun approach to filling the bottom six and creating competition was typical or if it was a one off due to having so many unknowns coming in from another team.

    Is it something he and Tippett had discussed regarding the Seattle franchise when Tippett was scouting Holland as a possible GM there?

    Regardless I don’t see it as using up cap room because this contract can go to Bakersfield or Switzerland with no impact on anything other than Darryl’s bank account.

    If Ennis and Sheahan are willing to sign for no or low impact cap hits I am not at all opposed to seeing them at training camp as well. It isn’t like Bakersfield is overflowing with high end forward prospects so those who don’t make it fill in that roster. It’s just Darryl’s money.

    I would think that PRussell is looking at a two way contract at best and I am hoping for younger at the 1B goalie position.

    Green depends on how he sees his career in its winding down phase. If he is interested in the 6/7 spot while mentoring Bouchard, Jones and Bear I am good to go with that scenario. He’ll be 35 when the season starts and maybe he has started thinking about what he would like to do with his playing days coming to an end.

    Holland has a history or hiring his former players into off ice positions and that may very well be why he waived to come to Edmonton in the first place.

  16. defmn says:

    jp: This is the same concern some had with Holland’s moves last summer, and it’s no more real a concern than it was then.

    Contracts under $1.065M (whatever the bury-able amount is) do not affect the cap. If those players aren’t ultimately among the 23 best skaters their cap hits do not affect the Oilers salary cap. There’s virtually no negative to a signing like this.

    2020-21: $700,000 + $375,000 = $1,075,000

  17. defmn says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Confirmed that Theodor Lennström has been signed to a one-year ELC.

    My assumption is that he plays top 4 left side with Sammy in the Bake but outside chance he’ll fight with Willie for a roster spot (assumption that Rusty is not on the roster).

    Nibbling around the edges. Good to see Holland is keeping busy.

    Mark Spector
    @SportsnetSpec
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    Lennstrom is 25, a LH D. 6-1, 176 lbs. He’s a project, not unlike Joel Persson last season.
    He’ll be on a one-year (two-way) entry level deal for $925K when he’s up. Same deal as sighed by Nygard and Haas last season.

  18. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Turtle sure seems to draw more penalties than he “takes” on a year over year basis.

  19. dustrock says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Confirmed that Theodor Lennström has been signed to a one-year ELC.

    My assumption is that he plays top 4 left side with Sammy in the Bake but outside chance he’ll fight with Willie for a roster spot (assumption that Rusty is not on the roster).

    Do we need better D in the Bake? Sounds good to have more in the pipeline I guess. Know nothing about him.

    The Alan Persson Project didn’t turn out, at least at the NHL level.

  20. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Ennis would be a nice fit on the roster, he’s the Swiss Army Knife we’re looking for. He’s best slotted in on the third line but able to move up in a pinch. He plays a responsible game, has some hands and can still wheel. Plus he’d move Neal down to the fourth line where he’s proven himself suited at 5v5.

  21. OriginalPouzar says:

    Whoa – Malone and Esposito signed to 2 year AHL deals.

    That’s AWESOME!

    I wanted Malone back for the AHL as guys like Yamamoto have given him huge kudos for mentorship and helping them develop.

    The fact that Malone is now on an AHL deal and not an NHL deal so he doesn’t count towards the 50 is simply fantastic.

    Great to have Espo back as well – he plays a very gritty game down in the AHL and is a solid middle six/bottom six player for the Condors.

    LOVE IT!

  22. OriginalPouzar says:

    dustrock: Do we need better D in the Bake? Sounds good to have more in the pipeline I guess. Know nothing about him.

    The Alan Persson Project didn’t turn out, at least at the NHL level.

    Absolutely we need him in the Bake.

    Assuming Rusty is gone, Lagesson is in the NHL, well, that leaves Sammy as the top left D right now.

    Things are getting thin on the AHL blue with Bouch likely to play most of this season in the NHL, Berglund staying in Sweden, Broberg staying in Sweden and Jones and Laggy likely done with the AHL.

  23. Harpers Hair says:

    dustrock: Do we need better D in the Bake? Sounds good to have more in the pipeline I guess. Know nothing about him.

    The Alan Persson Project didn’t turn out, at least at the NHL level.

    More here:
    https://globalnews.ca/news/6882822/edmonton-oilers-defenceman-theodor-lennstrom-sweden/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

  24. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    dustrock,

    The graduations of Bear, Jones and Lagesson had a noteworthy impact on BAK, which was/is thin up front as is. The injuries in net didn’t help much either. I’d wager an upgrade or two on D in BAK is necessary. Competition and mentorship are valuable to a young team.

  25. N64 says:

    Latest trial shot of Remdesivir sitting pretty in the Haas. IV administered for hospital use only, but looks like it can reduce recovery time (11 vs. 15 days) and deaths (8.0% vs. 11.6%)

    https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/nih-clinical-trial-shows-remdesivir-accelerates-recovery-advanced-covid-19

    N64 says March 11, 2020 at 1:20 pm…in some use in Seattle area:
    https://fortune.com/2020/03/10/gilead-coronavirus-treatment-remdesivir-being-used-washington-cdc/

    More treatments can help change the game. Multi drug studies with Joint control arms underway seem very well subscribed. With 4 drug arms only 20% are getting a placebo and fewer controls to track and that seems more attractive to patients and researchers.

    Update:

    More good news:

    http://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200429000724

  26. yeraslob says:

    jp: It does seem to be.

    The link below should bring you to NST. All forwards >500 minutes in all situations which nicely gives 381 players (essentially 12 forwards per team).

    https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=y&team=ALL&pos=F&loc=B&toi=500&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

    Haas was 16th in the NHL in penalties drawn/60 minutes (1.53 penalties/60). The median number for all forwards was ~0.75/60, so Haas was drawing penalties about twice as often as the average player.

    If you sort for penalties/60 and look at the individual players over their career (I just did it for some examples on the high and low end) the rate of penalties drawn was surprisingly consistent (after you link to a player you need to switch a pull-down from “counts” to “rate”, at least on my device).

    Just a couple of examples:
    Garnett Hathaway was first in the NHL this year with 2.95 drawn/60. He’s been over 2.1/60 every other year of his career.
    Brad Marchand was 5th with 1.94/60. He’s never been below 1.15/60 in his career (remember, 0.75 is average)
    Loui Eriksson was last with 0.1 drawn/60. He was better than average earlier in his career but hasn’t bee over 0.7/60 in the past 8 seasons (and declining).
    Nick Bonino was 2nd worst at 0.16/60. His best season in the last 9 was 0.65/60.

    It’s definitely a repeatable skill as far as I can tell. Hopefully he doesn’t bulk up too much 🙂

    For sure. I was wondering if his penalty drawing skill was due to him being easily knocked down, lol

  27. jp says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey: Ennis would be a nice fit on the roster, he’s the Swiss Army Knife we’re looking for. He’s best slotted in on the third line but able to move up in a pinch. He plays a responsible game, has some hands and can still wheel. Plus he’d move Neal down to the fourth line where he’s proven himself suited at 5v5.

    Definitely agree, Ennis is a useful player (maybe more).

    Hopefully he’s willing and Holland can find a few $$ to make it happen (some have speculated that he’d take $1M but I don’t see that as reasonable coming off a season where he was 157th in scoring [that’s a #5/6F – 2nd line]). He shouldn’t break the bank but his market value is well above $1M.

  28. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    jp,

    Thing is he’s not getting any younger. He’ll be 31 on October 6th.

    I wonder if he’d welcome some security and stability to play at home for a slight discount. This may be his last good chance to secure a contract with term.

    Man, we Oilers fans are a stingy lot. But it’s been a while since we’ve had some walking around money. This is where all those slight over pays on term and AAV are coming to bite us in the ass. A few hundred thousand here and there eventually adds up to something more significant than a rounding error. Still though, if his ask is in the Archibald range, I’d sign the man.

  29. yeraslob says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Ennis would be a nice fit on the roster, he’s the Swiss Army Knife we’re looking for.He’s best slotted in on the third line but able to move up in a pinch.He plays a responsible game, has some hands and can still wheel.Plus he’d move Neal down to the fourth line where he’s proven himself suited at 5v5.

    Totally agree. Much better than bringing back Samwise, we have enough slow boots.

  30. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: James Mirtle has a deep dive into every team’s cap situation up at the Athletic.

    Thanks, will have a closer look shortly.

  31. jp says:

    N64:
    Latest trial shot of Remdesivirsittingpretty in the Haas. Drug is for hospital use only, but looks like it can reduce recovery time (11 vs. 15 days) and deaths (8.0% vs. 11.6%)

    https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/nih-clinical-trial-shows-remdesivir-accelerates-recovery-advanced-covid-19

    N64 says March 11, 2020 at 1:20 pm…in some use in Seattle area:
    https://fortune.com/2020/03/10/gilead-coronavirus-treatment-remdesivir-being-used-washington-cdc/

    More treatments can help change the game. Multi drug studies with Joint control arms underway seem very well subscribed. With 4 drug arms only 20% are getting a placebo and fewer controls to track and that seems more attractive to patients and researchers.

    Update:

    More good news:

    http://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200429000724

    Not a silver bullet but positive news on multiple fronts. Every bit helps. Thanks.

  32. Munny says:

    yeraslob: For sure.I was wondering if his penalty drawing skill was due to him being easily knocked down, lol

    Lol… I will admit to having wondered the same.

  33. jp says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    jp,

    Thing is he’s not getting any younger.He’ll be 31 on October 6th.

    I wonder if he’d welcome some security and stability to play at home for a slight discount.This may be his last good chance to secure a contract with term.

    Man, we Oilers fans are a stingy lot.But it’s been a while since we’ve had some walking around money.This is where all those slight over pays on term and AAV are coming to bite us in the ass.A few hundred thousand here and there eventually adds up to something more significant than a rounding error.Still though, if his ask is in the Archibald range, I’d sign the man.

    Yes, he’s starting to get up there.

    $1.5M-ish (like Archibald) for 2 or 3 years is exactly what I had in mind actually.

    And I also think/hope he might take something of a discount for security, to play at home, to play with McDavid/Draisaitl/Nuge. We’ll see, it would be great to have him back though.

  34. OriginalPouzar says:

    Per Rishaug:

    Kenney on the NHL possibly coming to Edmonton later in the summer. “Given the professionalism and resources of the league I’m confident they can come forward with a detailed proposal” Hasn’t heard from the league again, but they have had regular dialogue with the Oilers.

  35. N64 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Per Rishaug:

    Kenney on the NHL possibly coming to Edmonton later in the summer. “Given the professionalism and resources of the league I’m confident they can come forward with a detailed proposal”Hasn’t heard from the league again, but they have had regular dialogue with the Oilers.

    All other things being equal If they go with 4 neutral locations I’d guess they’d all be on the US side of the border, but if they do a Canadian neutral site and the hotel staff are part of the iso bubble the Ice District has a lot to offer.

    It really will be up to the PA whether play resumes and I think it will require a high consensus. If even 15% of players don’t like the idea of resuming I don’t think the PA will sign on.

  36. OriginalPouzar says:

    As per Greg Wyshynski, Spector is speculating that, if they can’t get regular season games in, the most likely scenario is for the teams in each division to meet in one neutral local for a “play-in” where current teams 1-2 play to determine the division winner and 3 plays 6 and 4 plays 5 to determine who gets in.

    Best of 3s.

  37. defmn says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    As per Greg Wyshynski, Spector is speculating that, if they can’t get regular season games in, the most likely scenario is for the teams in each division to meet in one neutral local for a “play-in” where current teams 1-2 play to determine the division winner and 3 plays 6 and 4 plays 5 to determine who gets in.

    Best of 3s.

    So to make sure I understand.

    Both 1 & 2 in the division get in but the winner of the best of 3 gets top spot and would play the winner of the 3-6 if the 6 wins or the winner of the 4-5 if the 3 wins?

  38. OriginalPouzar says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR:
    Kinda running out of spots.Ennis and Sheahan might be on the outside looking in even if they get a compliance buyout of Neal.They’re hopefully going to upgrade 3C spot, which likely bumps out Sheahan.

    If Green could play 2nd pair, could they possibly trade Larsson for Kasperi Kapanen.A first line of AA, CMD, and KK would be likely the fastest trio in the league.KK also kills penalties, and brings the defensive conscience LT mentions in The Athletic today (free trial for me too).

    To me, there will be no better time to trade Laesson than this summer.

    I would much prefer to sign Tyler Ennis for under $2M and not acquire K. Kapanen than suffer the drop off from Larsson to Green on the right side.

    Going in to the season with Mike Green as a healthy lineup top 4 guys is a massive risk in my opinion.

  39. OriginalPouzar says:

    As per Seravelli:

    In memo to players and teams today, #NHL says it “may be able – provided we continue to trend favorably” move to Phase 2 and open facilities in “mid-to-later portion of May.”

    Players currently outside of club city should “consider whether to plan to return to their Club cities.

  40. BONE207 says:

    jp: It does seem to be.

    The link below should bring you to NST. All forwards >500 minutes in all situations which nicely gives 381 players (essentially 12 forwards per team).

    https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=y&team=ALL&pos=F&loc=B&toi=500&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

    Haas was 16th in the NHL in penalties drawn/60 minutes (1.53 penalties/60). The median number for all forwards was ~0.75/60, so Haas was drawing penalties about twice as often as the average player.

    If you sort for penalties/60 and look at the individual players over their career (I just did it for some examples on the high and low end) the rate of penalties drawn was surprisingly consistent (after you link to a player you need to switch a pull-down from “counts” to “rate”, at least on my device).

    Just a couple of examples:
    Garnett Hathaway was first in the NHL this year with 2.95 drawn/60. He’s been over 2.1/60 every other year of his career.
    Brad Marchand was 5th with 1.94/60. He’s never been below 1.15/60 in his career (remember, 0.75 is average)
    Loui Eriksson was last with 0.1 drawn/60. He was better than average earlier in his career but hasn’t bee over 0.7/60 in the past 8 seasons (and declining).
    Nick Bonino was 2nd worst at 0.16/60. His best season in the last 9 was 0.65/60.

    It’s definitely a repeatable skill as far as I can tell. Hopefully he doesn’t bulk up too much 🙂

    So this skill, can we call it diving?…ha…
    Haas was reportedly first in “on his ass”/ 60 according to reports.
    Maybe it’s a skill he learned from the Italian soccer league. Not too far from Switzerland.
    My biggest take away from that stat is that CONNOR ranks only 82nd on the list. WTF.
    Perhaps the Haas signing is to give 97 another season of examples on how to do it right.

  41. Darth Tu says:

    jp: It does seem to be.

    The link below should bring you to NST. All forwards >500 minutes in all situations which nicely gives 381 players (essentially 12 forwards per team).

    https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=y&team=ALL&pos=F&loc=B&toi=500&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

    Haas was 16th in the NHL in penalties drawn/60 minutes (1.53 penalties/60). The median number for all forwards was ~0.75/60, so Haas was drawing penalties about twice as often as the average player.

    If you sort for penalties/60 and look at the individual players over their career (I just did it for some examples on the high and low end) the rate of penalties drawn was surprisingly consistent (after you link to a player you need to switch a pull-down from “counts” to “rate”, at least on my device).

    Just a couple of examples:
    Garnett Hathaway was first in the NHL this year with 2.95 drawn/60. He’s been over 2.1/60 every other year of his career.
    Brad Marchand was 5th with 1.94/60. He’s never been below 1.15/60 in his career (remember, 0.75 is average)
    Loui Eriksson was last with 0.1 drawn/60. He was better than average earlier in his career but hasn’t bee over 0.7/60 in the past 8 seasons (and declining).
    Nick Bonino was 2nd worst at 0.16/60. His best season in the last 9 was 0.65/60.

    It’s definitely a repeatable skill as far as I can tell. Hopefully he doesn’t bulk up too much

    Well, a few months back Evolving Wild were pushing “drawing penalties” as a reason to promote Petterson as a Hart trophy front runner ahead of the likes of Leon. This was at the same time as punishing Leon further by saying that as he scored so many points with the man advantage he’s not really all that dominant in the league.

    Maybe I’m being a bit too simplistic with the stance of “all goals count, whether you’ve got an extra guy on the ice or not” argument. However, surely if you’re going to give someone credit for drawing penalties to create man advantage situations, you also need to give credit for someone actually burying the puck on said power play opportunities?

    Back to Haas. Looking at the stat lines above that LT posts I would certainly be bringing Haas back before Khaira. Now, do we know that Khaira is definitely being shipped out? Maybe he’s kept as well and it’s Neal that’s bought out and JJ is the “lefthanded centre” alongside Haas. I get the argument for the big line of Neal-Khaira-Chiasson, but I like the look of a Khaira-Haas-Chiasson line as well. Neal is a player I liked for years, but he is getting older, and he’s not really a typical 4th line player.

  42. who says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR: I’m not bullish on signing Green either, but IF they were able to swap Larsson in a deal for Kapanen, he might be able to bridge the gap until Bouchard can play steady top 4 minutes.I’m just a big Kapanen fan to be honest, and Toronto has had interest in Larsson in the past.I do feel that it’s not smart to walk Larsson up to UFA, or to sign him for 1 penny more than he’s making now.But one of those options will take place unless they trade him, and this summer is when it makes the most sense.

    This is a well thought out post.
    I’m not a big fan of moving Larrson if the Oilers are planning to contend next year. But if the return is high enough, and if Green can give you at least a year of top 4 minutes, it might be worth the risk.

  43. yeraslob says:

    BONE207: So this skill, can we call it diving?…ha…
    Haas was reportedly first in “on his ass”/ 60 according to reports.
    Maybe it’s a skill he learned from the Italian soccer league. Not too far from Switzerland.
    My biggest take away from that stat is that CONNOR ranks only 82nd on the list. WTF.
    Perhaps the Haas signing is to give 97 another season of examples on how to do it right.

    Nah, they could both look at videos of lil Johnny cowboi if they’re looking for diving tips.

  44. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp: It does seem to be.

    The link below should bring you to NST. All forwards >500 minutes in all situations which nicely gives 381 players (essentially 12 forwards per team).

    https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=y&team=ALL&pos=F&loc=B&toi=500&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

    Haas was 16th in the NHL in penalties drawn/60 minutes (1.53 penalties/60). The median number for all forwards was ~0.75/60, so Haas was drawing penalties about twice as often as the average player.

    If you sort for penalties/60 and look at the individual players over their career (I just did it for some examples on the high and low end) the rate of penalties drawn was surprisingly consistent (after you link to a player you need to switch a pull-down from “counts” to “rate”, at least on my device).

    Just a couple of examples:
    Garnett Hathaway was first in the NHL this year with 2.95 drawn/60. He’s been over 2.1/60 every other year of his career.
    Brad Marchand was 5th with 1.94/60. He’s never been below 1.15/60 in his career (remember, 0.75 is average)
    Loui Eriksson was last with 0.1 drawn/60. He was better than average earlier in his career but hasn’t bee over 0.7/60 in the past 8 seasons (and declining).
    Nick Bonino was 2nd worst at 0.16/60. His best season in the last 9 was 0.65/60.

    It’s definitely a repeatable skill as far as I can tell. Hopefully he doesn’t bulk up too much

    Thank you.

  45. OriginalPouzar says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR: I’m not bullish on signing Green either, but IF they were able to swap Larsson in a deal for Kapanen, he might be able to bridge the gap until Bouchard can play steady top 4 minutes.I’m just a big Kapanen fan to be honest, and Toronto has had interest in Larsson in the past.I do feel that it’s not smart to walk Larsson up to UFA, or to sign him for 1 penny more than he’s making now.But one of those options will take place unless they trade him, and this summer is when it makes the most sense.

    Personally, I feel there will be a big drop off from Larsson to Green at 2RD – obviously different types of players, and Larsson is not without his consistency issues, but with respect to ability to play against top 6 players, I don’t have confidence in Green except for spot duty.

    Also, is Kapanen really that much of an improvement on a guy like Ennis to justify that drop off on D?

    I mean, Kapanen was at 1.9 P/60 both last year and this year but, guess what, so was Tyler Ennis.

    I believe Kapanen kills penalties and is even faster than Ennis, etc. but to justify the trade and cap hit difference.

    I don’t like it – no offence!

  46. defmn says:

    OriginalPouzar: Personally, I feel there will be a big drop off from Larsson to Green at 2RD – obviously different types of players, and Larsson is not without his consistency issues, but with respect to ability to play against top 6 players, I don’t have confidence in Green except for spot duty.

    Also, is Kapanen really that much of an improvement on a guy like Ennis to justify that drop off on D?

    I mean, Kapanen was at 1.9 P/60 both last year and this year but, guess what, so was Tyler Ennis.

    I believe Kapanen kills penalties and is even faster than Ennis, etc. but to justify the trade and cap hit difference.

    I don’t like it – no offence!

    I don’t like it either. Even pencilling Larsson in as the 2RD has the potential for disaster given that that implies that Bear – with his total of 89 games in the NHL over three seasons is now to be considered our #1 RD?

    That makes me as nervous as lining Green up in the #2 spot frankly.

    Remember the first rule of Lowetide Lore – prospects do not progress in a straight line.

    Until a guy plays his 200th game in the big league I think you want cover in case of wobble.

  47. jp says:

    defmn: I don’t like it either. Even pencilling Larsson in as the 2RD has the potential for disaster given that that implies that Bear – with his total of 89 games in the NHL over three seasons is now to be considered our #1 RD?

    That makes me as nervous as lining Green up in the #2 spot frankly.

    Remember the first rule of Lowetide Lore – prospects do not progress in a straight line.

    Until a guy plays his 200th game in the big league I think you want cover in case of wobble.

    Bear
    Larsson
    Green
    Bouchard!

  48. OriginalPouzar says:

    defmn: So to make sure I understand.

    Both 1 & 2 in the division get in but the winner of the best of 3 gets top spot and would play the winner of the 3-6 if the 6 wins or the winner of the 4-5 if the 3 wins?

    I think the winner of 3/6 and 4/5 get the 2nd and 3rd slots in the division – not sure if they are thinking a cross-over similar to how the wild card would play out or what.

  49. Glovjuice says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR:
    Kinda running out of spots.Ennis and Sheahan might be on the outside looking in even if they get a compliance buyout of Neal.They’re hopefully going to upgrade 3C spot, which likely bumps out Sheahan.

    If Green could play 2nd pair, could they possibly trade Larsson for Kasperi Kapanen.A first line of AA, CMD, and KK would be likely the fastest trio in the league.KK also kills penalties, and brings the defensive conscience LT mentions in The Athletic today (free trial for me too).

    To me, there will be no better time to trade Laesson than this summer.

    Watching AA in anticipation of his great speed was tantamount to listening to Gorecki’s Symphony No. 3 in anticipation of a Beethoven crescendo – aka didn’t happen.

  50. pts2pndr says:

    Sunnyboy:
    By eye , Khaira needs to go, been too long in one place. His give a hoot meter has a bent needle or worse and intensity appears lacking. Years of not taking big enuf steps find him past the last chance Texaco but still in the town limits. Space is neededin the bottom of the roster for better players, KH needs room to wheel.
    Haas skates well, will have a better 2nd year in NA, ready for an expanded role.

    So speed, versatility, penalty killing and truculence has no value. We are too soon to over value players from other teams while undervaluing our own. Khaira has value if not to us to others. Moving an NHL player for a lottery ticket should be dependant on the team having a equal or better replacement.

  51. defmn says:

    jp: Bear
    Larsson
    Green
    Bouchard!

    I want to see Larsson healthy for the year and Bear finish a second season before I flip them in my mind. I know the game is changing. I just don’t think it has changed that much.

  52. pts2pndr says:

    jp: Definitely agree, Ennis is a useful player (maybe more).

    Hopefully he’s willing and Holland can find a few $$ to make it happen (some have speculated that he’d take $1M but I don’t see that as reasonable coming off a season where he was 157th in scoring [that’s a #5/6F – 2nd line]). He shouldn’t break the bank but his market value is well above $1M.

    Was above does not equate to is, as related to value in the new normal. Much is at best uncertain. We don’t know what we don’t know.

  53. pts2pndr says:

    Glovjuice: Watching AA in anticipation of his great speed was tantamount to listening to Gorecki’s Symphony No. 3 in anticipation of a Beethoven crescendo – aka didn’t happen.

    How many times did you see him struggle to keep up? I am of the belief that given a full training camp with McDavid and you will see a very different player.

  54. defmn says:

    pts2pndr: So speed, versatility, penalty killing and truculence has no value. We are too soon to over value players from other teams while undervaluing our own. Khaira has value if not to us to others. Moving an NHL player for a lottery ticket should be dependant on the team having a equal or better replacement.

    Agreed.

    This reminds me of the discussion a while back about trading Puljujarvi for draft picks. I am opposed.

    I understand that draft picks have value but they don’t have the same value to every team imo depending on where they are in their competitive cycle.

    Once a team has all 12 of the main core pieces in place and a bit of a cushion in terms of those guys going to free agency then draft picks are great. In fact they are the life blood of sustainability.

    But draft picks only value is really their purpose – which is to become legitimate NHL players. So before you start turning legitimate NHL players into draft picks its kind of important to have all those spots taken care of. Then you use any surplus to kick the ‘best before’ can down the road so that you neither bottleneck or run dry.

    The OIlers do not have all 12 core pieces in place, let alone a cushion. They might or might not have a top 6 LW in AA, they definitely don’t have a 3C and Nuge and Larsson are UFA after next season with only one of those spots having even a glimmer of a replacement in sight in Bouchard.

    They are not at the point where the GM willingly trades legitimate NHL players for draft picks that may or many not be ready in 4-5 years.

    If Khaira, Benning, or Puljujarvi are deemed expendable the first choice, imo, is to get an actual player back who can fill one of those holes or who is closer to filling one of those holes than is currently in the system.

  55. jp says:

    defmn: I want to see Larsson healthy for the year and Bear finish a second season before I flip them in my mind. I know the game is changing. I just don’t think it has changed that much.

    Sure, as you like.

    I was mostly replying to “Until a guy plays his 200th game in the big league I think you want cover in case of wobble.”

    Hopefully Holland will give Bear (and the Oilers) that kind of cover in 2020-21.

  56. defmn says:

    jp: Sure, as you like.

    I was mostly replying to “Until a guy plays his 200th game in the big league I think you want cover in case of wobble.”

    Hopefully Holland will give Bear (and the Oilers) that kind of cover in 2020-21.

    Ah, yeah, I guess I was still in ‘I think people are writing Larsson off too soon’ mode. 😉

    But I agree that Green is a good segue to Bouchard in that 3rd spot if Green is willing to accept it and the money that goes with it.

    A lot of chatter about the league in prep to get back at it within a month or so. You think its possible?

  57. Glovjuice says:

    pts2pndr: How many times did you see him struggle to keep up?I am of the belief that given a full training camp with McDavid and you will see a very different player.

    Keep up ? Well, zero. But, creating anything with his speed? Zero also. A lot like watching – hoping – wishing to see Puljujarvi drive wide to the net just ONCE in my mind.

  58. jp says:

    pts2pndr: Was above does not equate to is, as related to value in the new normal. Much is at best uncertain. We don’t know what we don’t know.

    So no speculation on anything until we know?

    You are correct there are many things we don’t know, I’m just continuing based on a flat cap without massive upheaval beyond that, since that scenario is more likely than any other specific one we might guess on.

  59. Harpers Hair says:

    defmn: Agreed.

    This reminds me of the discussion a while back about trading Puljujarvi for draft picks. I am opposed.

    I understand that draft picks have value but they don’t have the same value to every team imo depending on where they are in their competitive cycle.

    Once a team has all 12 of the main core pieces in place and a bit ofa cushion in terms of those guys going to free agency then draft picks are great. In fact they are the life blood of sustainability.

    But draft picks only value is really their purpose – which is to become legitimate NHL players. So before you start turning legitimate NHL players into draft picks its kind of important to have all those spots taken care of. Then you use any surplus to kick the ‘best before’ can down the road so that you neither bottleneck or run dry.

    The OIlers do not have all 12 core pieces in place, let alone a cushion. They might or might not have a top 6 LW in AA, they definitely don’t have a 3C and Nuge and Larsson are UFA after next season with only one of those spots having even a glimmer of a replacement in sight in Bouchard.

    They are not at the point where the GM willingly trades legitimate NHL players for draft picks that may or many not be ready in 4-5 years.

    If Khaira, Benning, or Puljujarvi are deemed expendable the first choice, imo, is to get an actual player back who can fill one of those holes or who is closer to filling one of those holes than is currently in the system.

    Exactly.

    The Decade of Darkness has conditioned Oiler fans (you know who you are) with a morbid obsession with draft picks.

    A team that is entering its window to win is far different than a team that needs to tear it down to the studs and rebuild through the draft. (see Ottawa for reference).

    The Oilers now have enough pieces of a contender that they should be looking for players who can contribute to winning either right now or in the very near future rather than wishing and hoping a draft pick will be able to help with a few seasons.

    Instead of turning NHL players into draft picks, they should be turning draft picks into NHL players as well as finding young players who are blocked in other organizations and filling in the gaps with free agents (which they HAVE been doing).

    The best recent example of this is the Canucks turning a first round pick into one one of the league’s top scorers in JT Miller and sending a former third round pick to LA for Tyler Toffoli (a win if they can re-sign him).

    Could the Oilers get their coveted 3C for their first round pick in the upcoming draft?

    Should they?

    Of course they should if the right player is available.

    If you read James Mirtle’s piece on the Athletic today you will have noticed that the TBL are once again in the worst cap hell in the league.

    Guess what?

    Tyler Johnson is a natural centre signed for the next four seasons at a $5M cap hit and the Lightning will have to move him.

    I’d wager they would take Kris Russell (with some salary retained) and the Oilers 1st round pick for Johnson.

    Who says no?

  60. jp says:

    defmn: Ah, yeah, I guess I was still in ‘I think people are writing Larsson off too soon’ mode.😉

    But I agree that Green is a good segue to Bouchard in that 3rd spot if Green is willing to accept it and the money that goes with it.

    A lot of chatter about the league in prep to get back at it within a month or so. You think its possible?

    I mean, I can see the appeal of moving Larsson this summer and getting an asset IF you’re not going to re-sign him. But that’s also terrifying.

    The Oilers could have a really strong D group next season though (as they do right now). Some of Russell/Benning/Green will need to move on but they can move 2 and still have 6 legit NHL D with prospects who “should” be ready for NHL games behind them. I’m curious what Green has left in the tank too, IF he’s willing to sign a modest deal.

    As for the league resuming? I don’t see why not (that is, it’s definitely possible). I’m no expert on what exactly would be needed and it very may well not happen, but for sure it could. Stuff is moving towards opening up in the US, for better or worse. The NHL seems to think a resumption is possible. I sure would love to see this Oilers team, with Holland’s deadline additions, finish the season…

  61. Harpers Hair says:

    So a couple of culinary notes:

    Made a Costco run today and, guess what? Nando’s Piri Piri sauce is now even cheaper.

    Picked up two litres for $7.47 each…an absolute steal.

    On tonight’s menu… Chicken Picatta with Lemon Sauce.

    Most recipes call for chicken breast but we prefer thighs as they tend to be juicer and more flavourful.

    I’ve used a recipe for two but it can easily be doubled.

    Ingredients:

    4 Chicken thighs
    1 egg lightly beaten
    2 tablespoons plus 1/4 cup dry white wine or chicken broth, divided
    3 tablespoons lemon juice, divided
    3 garlic cloves, minced
    1 teaspoon Nando’s Piri Piri sauce (or any that you prefer)
    1/2 cup all-purpose flour
    1/2 cup grated Parmesan cheese
    1/4 cup minced fresh parsley
    1/2 teaspoon salt
    3 teaspoons olive oil, divided
    2 tablespoons butter

    Preparation:

    In a shallow dish, combine the egg, 2 tablespoons wine, 2 tablespoons lemon juice, garlic and hot pepper sauce.

    In another shallow dish, combine the flour, Parmesan cheese, parsley and salt.

    Coat chicken with flour mixture, dip in egg mixture, then coat again with flour mixture.

    In a large nonstick skillet, brown the chicken in 1-1/2 teaspoons oil for 3-5 minutes on each side or until juices run clear. Remove and keep warm.

    In the same pan, melt butter. Add the remaining wine and lemon juice. Bring to a boil. Boil, uncovered, until sauce is reduced by a fourth. Drizzle over chicken.

    Enjoy!

  62. OriginalPouzar says:

    pts2pndr: How many times did you see him struggle to keep up?I am of the belief that given a full training camp with McDavid and you will see a very different player.

    I agree but I base it on a training camp with Coach T.

  63. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: Exactly.

    The Decade of Darkness has conditioned Oiler fans (you know who you are) with a morbid obsession with draft picks.

    A team that is entering its window to win is far different than a team that needs to tear it down to the studs and rebuild through the draft. (see Ottawa for reference).

    The Oilers now have enough pieces of a contender that they should be looking for players who can contribute to winning either right now or in the very near future rather than wishing and hoping a draft pick will be able to help with a few seasons.

    Instead of turning NHL players into draft picks, they should be turning draft picks into NHL players as well as finding young players who are blocked in other organizations and filling in the gaps with free agents (which they HAVE been doing).

    The best recent example of this is the Canucks turning a first round pick into one one of the league’s top scorers in JT Miller and sending a former third round pick to LA for Tyler Toffoli (a win if they can re-sign him).

    Could the Oilers get their coveted 3C for their first round pick in the upcoming draft?

    Should they?

    Of course they should if the right player is available.

    If you read James Mirtle’s piece on the Athletic today you will have noticed that the TBL are once again in the worst cap hell in the league.

    Guess what?

    Tyler Johnson is a natural centre signed for the next four seasons at a $5M cap hit and the Lightning will have to move him.

    I’d wager they would take Kris Russell (with some salary retained) and the Oilers 1st round pick for Johnson.

    Who says no?

    Nothing at all wrong with this template but is Johnson a 3C? I’m not sure he’s a fit for that lineup spot/role on the Oilers and I suspect Holland will fill that spot for less dollars and without using a 1st round pick (the one draft pick that does have a decent chance of producing a useful NHLer in 2 or 3 years).

  64. Harpers Hair says:

    jp: Nothing at all wrong with this template but is Johnson a 3C? I’m not sure he’s a fit for that lineup spot/role on the Oilers and I suspect Holland will fill that spot for less dollars and without using a 1st round pick (the one draft pick that does have a decent chance of producing a useful NHLer in 2 or 3 years).

    Go big or go home.

    Johnson is RHC who plays on Tampa’s third line.

    Perfect fit.

  65. defmn says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Could the Oilers get their coveted 3C for their first round pick in the upcoming draft?

    Should they?

    Of course they should if the right player is available.

    If you read James Mirtle’s piece on the Athletic today you will have noticed that the TBL are once again in the worst cap hell in the league.

    Guess what?

    Tyler Johnson is a natural centre signed for the next four seasons at a $5M cap hit and the Lightning will have to move him.

    I’d wager they would take Kris Russell (with some salary retained) and the Oilers 1st round pick for Johnson.

    Who says no?

    I really dislike when people say ‘no’ when they don’t have a better idea to offer as an alternative but I would say no because of age. He will be 30 this summer signed for 4 more years.

    If I am giving up a first rounder I am starting to get nervous at around age 27 regardless of whether or not he is locked in just because of the age of the team’s current core.

    I actually liked your Sutter suggestion better on a much smaller bet but my first choice would be to see if Benning and Puljujarvi get you close and add from there as necessary.

    If that doesn’t get it done I offer next year’s 1st for the right guy. Not this year since a first rounder this year should be ready in year 3 and I am still in catch up mode in case Nuge walks or AA doesn’t work out. The team is close but not flush if that makes sense. One bad break can throw the thing off so I hold this year’s first unless the perfect solution presents itself.

  66. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: Go big or go home.

    The Oilers already have Big. Johnson is more top 6F than 3C IMO. There’s no need to spend $5M or a #1 pick to fill that lineup spot.

  67. jp says:

    Harpers Hair,

    All the stuff defmn said too.

  68. Harpers Hair says:

    jp: The Oilers already have Big. Johnson is more top 6F than 3C IMO. There’s no need to spend $5M or a #1 pick to fill that lineup spot.

    Will wait to see your suggestion with a player that can actually move the needle at all.

  69. pts2pndr says:

    defmn,

    My thoughts exactly.

  70. Harpers Hair says:

    So the consensus seems to be, keep the first round pick who MIGHT contribute in three to five years.

    A reminder the Oilers will be picking in the same range as the 2017 draft when they picked Yamamoto.

  71. Harpers Hair says:

    defmn: I really dislike when people say ‘no’ when they don’t have a better idea to offer as an alternative but I would say no because of age. He will be 30 this summer signed for 4 more years.

    If I am giving up a first rounder I am starting to get nervous at around age 27 regardless of whether or not he is locked in just because of the age of the team’s current core.

    I actually liked your Sutter suggestion better on a much smaller bet but my first choice would be to see if Benning and Puljujarvi get you close and add from there as necessary.

    If that doesn’t get it done I offer next year’s 1st for the right guy. Not this year since a first rounder this year should be ready in year 3 and I am still in catch up mode in case Nuge walks or AA doesn’t work out. The team is close but not flush if that makes sense. One bad break can throw the thing off so I hold this year’s first unless the perfect solution presents itself.

    Curious who you are trading Benning and Puljujarvi to?

    Tampa already has 4 RHD on the roster and are loaded with high end wingers.

  72. defmn says:

    Harpers Hair:
    So the consensus seems to be, keep the first round pick who MIGHT contribute in three to five years.

    A reminder the Oilers will be picking in the same range as the 2017 draft when they picked Yamamoto.

    No. But it has to be better than Johnson. I broke my own rule to respond to you on a hockey question. Please don’t make me regret that by putting words in my mouth.

  73. dustrock says:

    Harpers Hair,

    What is this nonsense of 1 teaspoon of Nandos? More like 1 litre right?

  74. Harpers Hair says:

    dustrock:
    Harpers Hair,

    What is this nonsense of 1 teaspoon of Nandos? More like 1 litre right?

    Well…that’s for the faint of heart…I always use a “lash” which perks things right up 🙂

  75. defmn says:

    Harpers Hair: Curious who you are trading Benning and Puljujarvi to?

    Tampa already has 4 RHD on the roster and are loaded with high end wingers.

    Anybody that has a blocked youngish centre who is interested in one or the other or both.

    I just need a guy that can score 12-15 goals and PK. Johnson doesn’t do it for me.

  76. who says:

    Harpers Hair: Exactly.

    The Decade of Darkness has conditioned Oiler fans (you know who you are) with a morbid obsession with draft picks.

    A team that is entering its window to win is far different than a team that needs to tear it down to the studs and rebuild through the draft. (seeOttawa for reference).

    The Oilers now have enough pieces of a contender that they should be looking for players who can contribute to winning either right now or in the very near future rather than wishing and hoping a draft pick will be able to help with a few seasons.

    Instead of turning NHL players into draft picks, they should be turning draft picks into NHL players as well as finding young players who are blocked in other organizations and filling in the gaps with free agents (which they HAVE been doing).

    The best recent example of this is the Canucks turning a first round pick into one one of the league’s top scorers in JT Miller and sending a former third round pick to LA for Tyler Toffoli (a win if they can re-sign him).

    Could the Oilers get their coveted 3C for their first round pick in the upcoming draft?

    Should they?

    Of course they should if the right player is available.

    If you read James Mirtle’s piece on the Athletic today you will have noticed that the TBL are once again in the worst cap hell in the league.

    Guess what?

    Tyler Johnson is a natural centre signed for the next four seasons at a $5M cap hit and the Lightning will have to move him.

    I’d wager they would take Kris Russell (with some salary retained) and the Oilers 1st round pick for Johnson.

    Who says no?

    I do.
    I don’t think Johnson is worth a 1st rounder. Not with that contract.

  77. Harpers Hair says:

    who: I do.
    I don’t think Johnson is worth a 1st rounder. Not with that contract.

    Well, some contending team is going to get a RH 3C who scored 29 goals in his last complete season.

    I’d wager they won’t regret it.

  78. OriginalPouzar says:

    Last night:

    Emillio Petterson, drafted in the 6th round, touted as a fantastic signing by the flames management who is stocking with talent.

    Tonight:

    Tyler Maden, one of top drafted prospects not in the NHL, labelled “a former third round pick” (and a 2nd round pick and a depth forward approaching 300 NHL games not worth a mention).

    Narrative spinning 101!

  79. jp says:

    Harpers Hair:
    So the consensus seems to be, keep the first round pick who MIGHT contribute in three to five years.

    A reminder the Oilers will be picking in the same range as the 2017 draft when they picked Yamamoto.

    This is an argument AGAINST keeping the pick?

  80. Harpers Hair says:

    Do you know, if you randomly start 5 metronomes out of sync, within a few minutes they sync up perfectly.

    https://sciencedemonstrations.fas.harvard.edu/presentations/synchronization-metronomes

    It’s called Weak Coupling and can be observed in nature

    The phenomenon of spontaneous synchronization is found in circadian rhythms, heart & intestinal muscles, insulin-secreting cells in the pancreas, ambling elephants, drummers drumming, menstrual cycles, and fireflies, among others.

  81. Harpers Hair says:

    jp: This is an argument AGAINST keeping the pick?

    No.

    The Oilers should be interested in winning now…not in 3-5 years.

    What is your solution?

  82. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: Will wait to see your suggestion with a player that can actually move the needle at all.

    The player really just needs to not get fed like Sheahan did.

    Sutter would be fine as one example and likely only “costs” Russell.

  83. duct tape and foil says:

    I like Neal (apart from the contract) as he brought goals and a very good attitude to the team. He made a positive difference last year with his hot start and leadership. But if his contract can be ditched for free (in cap terms) through a compliance buy-out, then you do that in a NY minute.

    Khair’s contract is almost zero problem and you have to like his PK work and willingness to physically engage. But his results for first half of the year were horrific and he was a very large negative at ES last year. Honestly I give him one last shot and move him at the deadline next year if can’t get his act together (BOS supposedly wanted him this year so he has a market).

    Ennis is fine as a cheap signing but he’d have to take a lower cap hit to get more than one year (two max).

    Sheahan did some decent work at 3C but that’s a slot you need to improve on next year in terms of both speed and skill. A 31% GF% doesn’t cut it (like Khaira) plus his wheels are mediocre and he’s not very physical. You only keep one of Khaira or Sheahan, and my pick is Khaira as he might improve. Last season was probably peak Sheahan and it’s not good enough.

  84. who says:

    Harpers Hair: Well, some contending team is going to get a RH 3C who scored 29 goals in his last complete season.

    I’d wager they won’t regret it.

    I would give up the 1st for a JT Miller type, but not Johnson.
    Too old. Too many years at 5 million.

  85. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: No.

    The Oilers should be interested in winning now…not in 3-5 years.

    What is your solution?

    The Oilers ARE winning now. They need an upgrade at 3C to a competent player. They don’t need to spend $5M and 1st round picks to fill 3C adequately. How many teams pay their 3C $5M on merit?

  86. OriginalPouzar says:

    defmn: I really dislike when people say ‘no’ when they don’t have a better idea to offer as an alternative but I would say no because of age. He will be 30 this summer signed for 4 more years.

    If I am giving up a first rounder I am starting to get nervous at around age 27 regardless of whether or not he is locked in just because of the age of the team’s current core.

    I actually liked your Sutter suggestion better on a much smaller bet but my first choice would be to see if Benning and Puljujarvi get you close and add from there as necessary.

    If that doesn’t get it done I offer next year’s 1st for the right guy. Not this year since a first rounder this year should be ready in year 3 and I am still in catch up mode in case Nuge walks or AA doesn’t work out. The team is close but not flush if that makes sense. One bad break can throw the thing off so I hold this year’s first unless the perfect solution presents itself.

    Whoa, lets hold on a second – you are talking about Brandon Sutter, right?

    The trade was Rusty for Sutter – negative value contract for negative value contract.

    Both Benning and Puljuarvi are positive value assets and either, by himself, is an over-pay for Brandon Sutter.

    No?

  87. Harpers Hair says:

    jp: The Oilers ARE winning now. They need an upgrade at 3C to a competent player. They don’t need to spend $5M and 1st round picks to fill 3C adequately. How many teams pay their 3C $5M on merit?

    Boston and Tampa off the top of my head and Pittsburgh is close. But what do they know?

    Did I mention the deal also includes getting rid of Kris Russel?

    Yes I did.

  88. duct tape and foil says:

    If we could get a Neal compliance buyout then I would consider trading Russell for Sutter and playing him as 3C. But in this economic climate, nobody is taking Sutter’s $4.5 million contract in real dollars in exchange for Russell’s $2.5 million in real money (only $1.5 after July 1). If VAN does not want to retain at least $1.5 million before July 1 then no deal. There is a market for Kris Russell at $1.5 real dollars after July 1 next year. Real cash is going to be more important to most teams than cap next year.

    If VAN and Sutter agree, perhaps deal JP to NYR for Georgiev to get a youngish 1b goalie, sign Ennis, and we are pretty much good to go.

  89. Harpers Hair says:

    Why I miss George Carlin.

    https://youtu.be/JSbT7JVNEU4

  90. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: Boston and Tampa off the top of my head and Pittsburgh is close. But what do they know?

    Did I mention the deal also includes getting rid of Kris Russel?

    Yes I did.

    I don’t know who you’re considering 3C in Boston. Only Pastrnak, Bergeron, Marchand and Krejci make more than $3.2M…

    You’re telling us that TB needs to unload their 3C because they can’t afford him.

    3C in Pittsburgh makes $4.1M.

    Russell’s deal is only for 1 year, Johnson’s is 4 years, all after age 30. Let someone who’s looking for a 2nd line forward spend the assets on Johnson.

  91. defmn says:

    OriginalPouzar: Whoa, lets hold on a second – you are talking about Brandon Sutter, right?

    The trade was Rusty for Sutter – negative value contract for negative value contract.

    Both Benning and Puljuarvi are positive value assets and either, by himself, is an over-pay for Brandon Sutter.

    No?

    Nobody suggested trading Puljujarvi and/or Benning for Sutter.

  92. defmn says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Why I miss George Carlin.

    https://youtu.be/JSbT7JVNEU4

    Saw him less than a year before he died. He was at the Jubilee. An incredible performer.

  93. Harpers Hair says:

    jp: I don’t know who you’re considering 3C in Boston. Only Pastrnak, Bergeron, Marchand and Krejci make more than $3.2M…

    You’re telling us that TB needs to unload their 3C because they can’t afford him.

    3C in Pittsburgh makes $4.1M.

    Russell’s deal is only for 1 year, Johnson’s is 4 years, all after age 30. Let someone who’s looking for a 2nd line forward spend the assets on Johnson.

    By ice time, Charlie Coyle is the Bruins 3C.

    His ticket next season is $5.25 million.

    Tampa is always in a cap churn.

    The emergence of Brayden Point and his $6.75 million cap hit makes Johnson too expensive given Kucherov and Stamkos pulling in $18 million.

    Doesn’t mean Johnson can’t play.

  94. Harpers Hair says:

    defmn: Saw him less than a year before he died. He was at the Jubilee. An incredible performer.

    And an absolute genius.

  95. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Thanks to those who invested time in Covid research. When it first hit things. WAS helpful.

    Now, we are at a point where we know things. Perhaps this isn’t the best forum for posting aggregated random news links.

    It’s becoming political in general. When I have time, now, to peak in, and am faced with it. Not enjoyable for me, if I can’t comment without a lot of coddling, and call things that are wrong headed out.

    It makes me want to stay away, mostly because of how things are moderated here. The folks that could care less, and have no investment, reign free with their baiting and misinformation, the offended tread lightly.

    I think N64 is becoming dead wrong. The information links are the type invoking paranoia in the weak minded. At first I appreciated the news collecting. That was weeks ago.

    Godot shit the bed so hard on Covid, there is a hole in that home right to the source of the outbreak in China.

    Keep calm, wash hands. and carry on, my fellow Lowetidians.

    Kirk out.

  96. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: By ice time, Charlie Coyle is the Bruins 3C.

    His ticket next season is $5.25 million.

    Tampa is always in a cap churn.

    The emergence of Brayden Point and his $6.75 million cap hit makes Johnson too expensive given Kucherov and Stamkos pulling in $18 million.

    Doesn’t mean Johnson can’t play.

    True, Coyle at $5M will overlap with Krejci for 1 season before he’s UFA. Then they’ll be back to 2 centres making $5M+.

    No one said Johnson can’t play, the issue is that TB can’t afford to pay their 3C $5M. You said that yourself.

    Very few teams see that as a sensible way to spend their cap dollars, much less teams who employ the top 2 centres in the NHL (who recall, play 35 of the 50 even strength minutes each night)

  97. Harpers Hair says:

    jp: True, Coyle at $5M will overlap with Krejci for 1 season before he’s UFA. Then they’ll be back to 2 centres making $5M+.

    No one said Johnson can’t play, the issue is that TB can’t afford to pay their 3C $5M. You said that yourself.

    Very few teams see that as a sensible way to spend their cap dollars, much less teams who employ the top 2 centres in the NHL (who recall, play 35 of the 50 even strength minutes each night)

    And yet Nuge is paid $6 million and due for a raise.

    Go figure.

  98. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: And yet Nuge is paid $6 million and due for a raise.

    Go figure.

    Nuge is a winger. And when Nuge played C, Draisaitl was a winger. You know that.

  99. Harpers Hair says:

    jp: Nuge is a winger. And when Nuge played C, Draisaitl was a winger. You know that.

    Now that’s some expensive overlap.

  100. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: Now that’s some expensive overlap.

    That’s cute. It’s kinda like how Pettersson used to be a C.

    Just call it balance.

  101. Munny says:

    Harpers Hair,

    Thank you, Kelly.

  102. Munny says:

    Harpers Hair: Exactly.

    The Decade of Darkness has conditioned Oiler fans (you know who you are) with a morbid obsession with draft picks.

    A team that is entering its window to win is far different than a team that needs to tear it down to the studs and rebuild through the draft. (see Ottawa for reference).

    The Oilers now have enough pieces of a contender that they should be looking for players who can contribute to winning either right now or in the very near future rather than wishing and hoping a draft pick will be able to help with a few seasons.

    Instead of turning NHL players into draft picks, they should be turning draft picks into NHL players as well as finding young players who are blocked in other organizations and filling in the gaps with free agents (which they HAVE been doing).

    The best recent example of this is the Canucks turning a first round pick into one one of the league’s top scorers in JT Miller and sending a former third round pick to LA for Tyler Toffoli (a win if they can re-sign him).

    Could the Oilers get their coveted 3C for their first round pick in the upcoming draft?

    Should they?

    Of course they should if the right player is available.

    If you read James Mirtle’s piece on the Athletic today you will have noticed that the TBL are once again in the worst cap hell in the league.

    Guess what?

    Tyler Johnson is a natural centre signed for the next four seasons at a $5M cap hit and the Lightning will have to move him.

    I’d wager they would take Kris Russell (with some salary retained) and the Oilers 1st round pick for Johnson.

    Who says no?

    This is a huge overpay for a cap dump.

    Keep in mind that given the economics of the League going forward, cap dumps are going to be even more costly this off-season than they were last. And damn they were expensive last year.

    No team is going to let TBL out of cap jail by giving them a 1st rounder.

    Not to mention, Johnson is only a part-time C, and doesn’t PK. He’s not a 3C in the way Sutter, when healthy, is a 3C. With age working against him, plenty of term left, and the huge variance year-to-year in his scoring numbers, it remains to be seen whether this is the cap hit TBL can actually dump.

  103. Munny says:

    defmn: Saw him less than a year before he died. He was at the Jubilee. An incredible performer.

    Saw him at the Jube too, but back in the 80s. There was no other comedian I wanted to see more, so when I heard he was coming, I threw some hard-earned student loan money his way.

  104. Munny says:

    defmn,

    defmn,

    Both of these posts are well-argued, IMO. I would amend one point though… the replacement player (for Khaira, Benning, Pujo) doesn’t have to come back in the very same deal. But he does have to in the very same off-season.

  105. defmn says:

    Munny:
    defmn,

    defmn,

    Both of these posts are well-argued, IMO.I would amend one point though… the replacement player (for Khaira, Benning, Pujo) doesn’t have to come back in the very same deal.But he does have to in the very same off-season.

    Agreed. I just like my life neat and tidy. 😉

  106. defmn says:

    Munny: Saw him at the Jube too, but back in the 80s.There was no other comedian I wanted to see more, so when I heard he was coming, I threw some hard-earned student loan money his way.

    He had a knack for seeing the absurdities for what they are.

  107. Munny says:

    defmn,

    Off topic, but you haven’t by any chance happen to have read Peter Gärdenfors book, The Geometry of Thinking, have you?

    I’ve never heard of it till today, but it looks like something I need to get.

  108. hunter1909 says:

    Haas is one of Holland’s Heroes – unsung signings that came to the Oilers, didn’t blow defensively until they could eventually start scoring a few goals.

    So far Holland is strong like Sather but will he be ruthless culling the dead wood like Slats was?

  109. defmn says:

    Munny:
    defmn,

    Off topic, but you haven’t by any chance happen to have read Peter Gärdenfors book, The Geometry of Thinking, have you?

    I’ve never heard of it till today, but it looks like something I need to get.

    No, I haven’t.

    On Amazon The Geometry of Meaning: Semantics Based on Conceptual Spaces is listed?

    Is that the one?

    If you get it I’d love to hear what you think.

    BTW if you use Amazon they are backed up. I have been waiting for about a month now for the last book I ordered.

  110. hunter1909 says:

    defmn: BTW if you use Amazon they are backed up. I have been waiting for about a month now for the last book I ordered.

    lol so now they’re no better than the post office.

  111. Munny says:

    defmn: No, I haven’t.

    On Amazon The Geometry of Meaning: Semantics Based on Conceptual Spaces is listed?

    Is that the one?

    If you get it I’d love to hear what you think.

    BTW if you use Amazon they are backed up. I have been waiting for about a month now for the last book I ordered.

    Yup, that sounds exactly like what I was hearing. And it sounds like neuroscience is backing his theory… that the mind conceptualizes ideas, meanings, abstractions in much the same way it does with space, geography, placement of self within space etc.

  112. wolf8888 says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Why I miss George Carlin.

    https://youtu.be/JSbT7JVNEU4

    Love it! Guess what George would have to say about the Covid hysteria?

  113. wolf8888 says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    Thanks to those who invested time in Covid research. When it first hit things. WAS helpful.

    Now, we are at a point where we know things. Perhaps this isn’t the best forum for posting aggregated random news links.

    It’s becoming political in general. When I have time, now, to peak in, and am faced with it. Not enjoyable for me, if I can’t comment without a lot of coddling, and call things that are wrong headed out.

    It makes me want to stay away, mostly because of how things are moderated here. The folks that could care less, and have no investment, reign free with their baiting and misinformation, the offended tread lightly.

    I think N64 is becoming dead wrong. The information links are the type invoking paranoia in the weak minded. At first I appreciated the news collecting. That was weeks ago.

    Godot shit the bed so hard on Covid, there is a hole in that home right to the source of the outbreak in China.

    Keep calm, wash hands. and carry on, my fellow Lowetidians.

    Kirk out.

    Here Here!

  114. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: And yet Nuge is paid $6 million and due for a raise.

    Go figure.

    Nuge does not play 3C, he plays 2C or top 6W – hence why the Oilers are looking for a 3C with a lower cap hit.

    Nuge is do a raise but I think most Oiler fans hope/believe it won’t be overly material – in the $7MM range (subject to new NHL economics).

  115. defmn says:

    Munny: Yup, that sounds exactly like what I was hearing.And it sounds like neuroscience is backing his theory… that the mind conceptualizes ideas, meanings, abstractions in much the same way it does with space, geography, placement of self within space etc.

    Sounds even better. Geometry as the only true science from which to build meaning is an idea that stretches back past Plato. Let me know if you read it.

  116. duct tape and foil says:

    Sheahan was a good pickup last year to plug a gaping hole at 3C and PK, but he is sub-optimal in terms of speed, offense and even ES defense. He got beaten or made nasty mistakes numerous times last year at ES in the defense zone which led to GA. So he’s not fast, not physical, limited offense, LHS and prone to mistakes at ES. Not ideal as a 3C. He did OK last year at 3C (better than Khaira or anyone else we had available would have done) but this is one position we need to improve at.

    In contrast, Haas was much less prone to defensive mistakes as Bruce outlined on the CoH podcast today (one of the best on the team) and with more experience might have 3C potential if he can get stronger. He has more raw offensive skill than Sheahan, but it’s unclear if he can score much more, and you do have to piss more than drops as 3C. More comfortable with him going forward at 4C.

    Pavel Zacha as a target makes sense to me as a youngish 3C – maybe a deal can happen if NJD is interested in JP and a spare dman like Benning.

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