The Searchers

by Lowetide

On July 12, 2019 the Edmonton Oilers hired Archie Henderson as director of pro scouting. I’ve been watching the pro signings closely since and would describe the work of the pro scouts as traditional and safe. The signings give the team solid backup in several areas and possible NHL replacement options at all positions. Is there more available? Or is that all there is?

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ARCHIE HENDERSON

Shortly after Henderson signed, Edmonton added free agent Josh Archibald and then later in the summer of 2019 Riley Sheahan. It’s unknown how much input Henderson would have had on the process, but for me the pro scouting director is the guy looking for the next Jordan Oesterle or Rem Murray. Someone from off-off Broadway, if you know what I mean.

Henderson would have scouted the DRW before the acquisitions of Andreas Athanasiou and Mike Green, plus the Ottawa Senators before Tyler Ennis was added at the deadline.

Theodor Lennstrom was signed April 29, Henderson and the pro scouts would have seen him. We haven’t seen him yet, but definitely part of the Henderson portfolio.

Adam Cracknell was signed September 10. He is 35 and in my opinion a poor bet and ties up a spot on the 50-man list.

Kyle Turris, Mike Smith, Tyler Ennis and Tyson Barrie were signed early in free agency 2020, Henderson would have had involvement and there are some interesting names in there.

Henderson would have been central to the signing of Anton Forsberg, Alan Quine and Seth Griffith.

So let’s have a look at the AHL-Euro guys and see where the Oilers are shopping for fringe pieces. Any inspired additions in there?

There are some nice pieces here. Forsberg was .908 with the Blackhawks two years ago and .919 with the AHL IceHogs in 2018-19. He seems a suitable No. 3 goalie. He signed a $700,000 deal he gets paid that number no matter where he plays.

Quine is a player I’ve noticed for some time, he’s an aggressive center and has offensive ability. I think he might be an under the radar signing who ends up being a bigger story. Quine got a one-way contract too, that might be a tell for a player like Jujhar Khaira.

JAYCE HAWRYLUK

Vancouver Canucks signed Jayce Hawryluk yesterday, the Florida Panthers cut him looks and Van City got him for $800,000 with $200,000 in the minors. Seth Griffith got a two-year deal for $725,000 with $450,000 as his minor-league salary. He is 27, Hawryluk 24, I like the Vancouver bet more.

There are some nice players out there who are in a similar spot to Hawrlyuk.

  1. LW Anthony Duclair 66 games, 23-17-40. One dimensional but he can score.
  2. LW Dominik Kahun 56 games, 12-19-29. 36-27 goal differential at five on five.
  3. LW Andreas Athanasiou 55 games, 11-15-26. A fascinating and flawed player.
  4. LW Drake Caggiula 40 games, 9-6-15. 22-27 goal differential at five on five.
  5. LD Slater Koekkoek 42 games, 1-9-10. 27-24 goal differential at five on five.
  6. RD Madison Bowey 53 games, 3-14-17. 34-48 goal differential at five on five.

There’s quite the range here, Duclair would play a feature role, Kahun, Athanasiou, Caggiula and Koekkoek would be regulars and Bowey would be an NHL recall.

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Crazy Pedestrian

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LMHF#1

who: Wow.
You hate Russell like Godot hates Kassian.
But the truth is, Kris Russell has been one of the Oilers 6 best dmen in every year of his contract.
That will end at some point,but it hasn’t yet.

Incorrect.

And it’s been clear from the start.

Being stuck with these non-NHL “veteran” types is a special kind of hockey fan hell.

defmn

Scungilli Slushy: Brian Burke’s story about his draft interview with Nail tells you all you need to know about that lad’s journey. Somebody at Mission Control Kingsway didn’t do enough due diligence.

Or the people who did the due diligence were over ruled as per persistent rumours.

Scungilli Slushy

OriginalPouzar: Edmonton, St. Louis, Colorado, St. Petrsburg, Khabarovsk, Avangard…… i was going to say, “and he’s still pretty young” but he’s actually 27 now.

Brian Burke’s story about his draft interview with Nail tells you all you need to know about that lad’s journey. Somebody at Mission Control Kingsway didn’t do enough due diligence.

jp

OriginalPouzar: I think the math is right but not re-signing Bear (and Lagesson) aren’t realistic options and, no, I don’t see them waiting until day one and the LTIR cushion is accessed. Camp is key and, while insurance is available, I don’t see it.

Do my calculations not show that the team could effectively access $3.8 or $3.9M of Klefbom’s LTIR in the off season to sign Bear + Lagesson (+ other?) while still being compliant on day 1?

who

BornInAGretzkyJersey:
who,

5/6 defensemen aren’t worth $4M AAV plus term AND a highly restrictive NTC.

That’s the problem, not the player.

Not arguing with you.
Just responding to the guy who said Russell has never been one of the 6th best dman in Edmonton. Just pointing out the hyperbole.

OriginalPouzar

BornInAGretzkyJersey:
jp,

If Holland makes no further moves by day one, the available cap should be ~ $4.17M – $0.732M = $3.438M.

Efficient allocation of capital would necessitate calling up PRusty on the day before the season starts to use the full benefit of his $0.7M cap hit and available roster space.He could then be papered back to the AHL thereafter.

That would put the available cap space during the season — provided Kelf doesn’t return, and no other transactions are made prior to start of season — at $4.138M.

So the loose change would be $4.138M – $1.5M (accounting for Holland’s stated preference for walking around money) = $2.638M.

So Old Dutch has a max of (roughly) $2.6M to spend on the Bear and Lagesson contracts, and/or whomever else.

Gonna be a tight squeeze.

I think the math is right but not re-signing Bear (and Lagesson) aren’t realistic options and, no, I don’t see them waiting until day one and the LTIR cushion is accessed. Camp is key and, while insurance is available, I don’t see it.

jp

jp,

These numbers are slightly different from what I posted last night because the Oilers couldn’t access ALL of Klefbom’s potential LTIR if they were to sign Bear + Lagesson + other in the off-season (only about $3.9M of it).

jp

BornInAGretzkyJersey: If Holland makes no further moves by day one, the available cap should be ~ $4.17M – $0.732M = $3.438M.
Efficient allocation of capital would necessitate calling up PRusty on the day before the season starts to use the full benefit of his $0.7M cap hit and available roster space. He could then be papered back to the AHL thereafter.
That would put the available cap space during the season — provided Kelf doesn’t return, and no other transactions are made prior to start of season — at $4.138M.
So the loose change would be $4.138M – $1.5M (accounting for Holland’s stated preference for walking around money) = $2.638M.
So Old Dutch has a max of (roughly) $2.6M to spend on the Bear and Lagesson contracts, and/or whomever else.
Gonna be a tight squeeze.

But you didn’t subtract P Russell’s salary when you sent him back down. So $2.6M + $0.7M = $3.3M.

No account for the salary of whoever gets bumped if the Oilers sign Kahun or similar ($0.9M). So there should/could be $4.2M available to sign Bear + Lagesson + other (potentially). I believe. (and leaving some walking around money)

Jaxon

defmn: Yup. I can see that but what is Hollland doing for his defence in that scenario?

Signing Ben Hutton and Madison Bowey.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

jp,

If Holland makes no further moves by day one, the available cap should be ~ $4.17M – $0.732M = $3.438M.

Efficient allocation of capital would necessitate calling up PRusty on the day before the season starts to use the full benefit of his $0.7M cap hit and available roster space. He could then be papered back to the AHL thereafter.

That would put the available cap space during the season — provided Kelf doesn’t return, and no other transactions are made prior to start of season — at $4.138M.

So the loose change would be $4.138M – $1.5M (accounting for Holland’s stated preference for walking around money) = $2.638M.

So Old Dutch has a max of (roughly) $2.6M to spend on the Bear and Lagesson contracts, and/or whomever else.

Gonna be a tight squeeze.

jp

defmn: Late in the season, perhaps. Remember, though, that Tampa couldn’t give Johnson away for free and Vegas couldn’t get anything for Schmidt.

For sure. It’s not something you consider if the player is 50/50 on returning.

Moving Russell may be difficult in-season but Larsson and Barrie are on expiring deals. Maybe you need to move the guy you don’t want to move, but it’s not an impossible situation (other unknowns like someone else ending up on LTIR in the interim could present themselves as well)

Klefbom also has to know he’s putting the team in a difficult situation. Maybe he understands that at some point (soon?) he’s out for the season.

The flip side is that having Klefbom back would be great. That would be a heck of a D. Guess any decisions on how to proceed depend on the likelihood of that, which we can’t know.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

who,

5/6 defensemen aren’t worth $4M AAV plus term AND a highly restrictive NTC.

That’s the problem, not the player.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Bruce McCurdy,

Completely agree Chiasson has done well with limited line mates. That he’s able to move up in a pinch is a plus.

If only he were a viable PK option — it’s the optics, I tells ya.

His hands aren’t half bad. And from what I’ve see of him on his off-wing, he’s got a clean release and good nose/timing.

Damnable boots.

AC at Patrick Maroon money more in line with my expectations. Patty has twice the Cup rings, mind.

jp

OriginalPouzar:
Good analysis but a few things I would add:
– I don’t think Lagesson and Bear are coming in at $1.5M – Bear is going to get more than $800K – I’d say $2M so decrease by $500K
– Also, decrease by another apx $1.5M for the “walking around money” Holland is adamant he has. Using that entire $3.3M (well, $2.8M with my re-sign adjustments) leaves zero cap space – can’t even call up a player if someone is injured for a few weeks.
– So, really, we are left with $1.3M….’
No?

Not quite.

I did account for Bear and Lagesson getting reasonable deals (I said those deals would put the Oilers $1.5M over the cap, so $2.2M total for the deals, guessing $700k for Lagesson and $1.5M for Bear).

So we’re back up to $1.8M I think, plus $1.5M for in-season moves.

Saving some ‘walking around money’ is absolutely needed, agreed. I was responding to your post where you said:

“Klefbom’s LTIR cushion is simply not available in the off-season. I mean, it technically is, however, if the Oilers are over the cap on day 1 and need to use off-season LTIR in order to become cap compliant it leaves $0 of cap space going in to the season. That is not a manageable situation.”

I was focused on how much could theoretically be available (which I still believe is $3.3M). I’m not sure a full $1.5M is needed for walking around money (did Holland go into last season with that much space? I don’t think so).

If we say Holland sets aside $1M for walking around, do we agree the Oilers could add a player for up to $2.3M, without any other divesting of salary?

defmn

jp: Yeah, it’s certainly not something you’d want to do if you think Klefbom is likely to come back in season.

100% certain though? It’s not impossible to move the necessary salary in season, even from a position of weakness. What’s the worst case scenario, they need to move Barrie to get compliant? Hopefully they could instead move Russell part way through the year. Not ideal at all but if Holland is 75% or 80% sure Klefbom won’t be back maybe it’s worth risking that scenario?

Leaving space for call-ups is totally fair. I wasn’t really considering all of the $3.3M on a player. Though I still think more than $1M could be available to add a player while still leaving room for in season moves.

Of note, the Oilers look like they’ll already be using Klefbom’s LTIR to get Bear and Lagesson signed. So adding another players doesn’t force them to use LTIR when they wouldn’t otherwise, it just devotes more of Klefbom’s LTIR relief to an actual player vs saving it for a rainy day.

Late in the season, perhaps. Remember, though, that Tampa couldn’t give Johnson away for free and Vegas couldn’t get anything for Schmidt.

who

pts2pndr: The reason the right shot D should be more efficient is that both the pass made and the shot are on the forehand which is more accurate for the pass and generally a harder more accurate shot.lefty to lefty requires one of the shooter or the passer to be a backhand. Having a right shot offensively skilled D on the power play will add another weapon to an already potent power play.

Not really following you at all here, and I’ve had plenty of experience running a powerplay.
What makes the Oilers powerplay so unique has nothing to do with which way the players shoot. Its driven by the 3 centers spread across the middle of the ozone. The powerplay is most effective when these 3 guys keep moving and swapping positions. It makes it much harder to defend because the passing lanes keep shifting.
It also doesn’t hurt that Mcdavid is pretty much an automatic controlled zone entry.
I get the feeling that most posters would prefer to see 2 guys on their offwings firing one timers from the top of the circles. Like Ovechkin.
The 2 problems with that are:
1) We don’t have an Ovechkin
2) Those kind of powerplays can get stagnant. And very predictable.
I think last years powerplay was miles ahead of the traditional model. And I don’t think it really matters which way Barrie shoots. He’s just got to get the puck to one of the 3 centers.

jp

GordieHoweHatTrick: Neat.
does this include the ~$1M buffer “walking around money” KH likes to have in his jeans?

It does not, as others have mentioned. So with the $1M buffer there should be up to $2.3M to spend on a player, I believe. Could also be wrong.

jp

defmn:
You have to be 100% certain that Klefbom is sitting out the entire season for this to work because moving contracts this year doesn’t look very easy. And as noted by GR above you need to leave room for injury call ups.
If the board is hell bent on adding another player I think the only feasible way is the Toronto plan from last year.

Yeah, it’s certainly not something you’d want to do if you think Klefbom is likely to come back in season.

100% certain though? It’s not impossible to move the necessary salary in season, even from a position of weakness. What’s the worst case scenario, they need to move Barrie to get compliant? Hopefully they could instead move Russell part way through the year. Not ideal at all but if Holland is 75% or 80% sure Klefbom won’t be back maybe it’s worth risking that scenario?

Leaving space for call-ups is totally fair. I wasn’t really considering all of the $3.3M on a player. Though I still think more than $1M could be available to add a player while still leaving room for in season moves.

Of note, the Oilers look like they’ll already be using Klefbom’s LTIR to get Bear and Lagesson signed. So adding another players doesn’t force them to use LTIR when they wouldn’t otherwise, it just devotes more of Klefbom’s LTIR relief to an actual player vs saving it for a rainy day.

pts2pndr

who: ?
Barries right shot from the point has nothing to do with Chiassons right shot from the net front. Neither one of them is going to be setting up on their off wing for one timers. One does not replace the other.
I think the powerplay is going to miss the lefty point shot, being fed by Nuge as he curls in from the left half wall.
I don’t know why everyone insists the powerplay needs a right shot. 30 percent efficiency with 5 leftys isn’t good enough?

The reason the right shot D should be more efficient is that both the pass made and the shot are on the forehand which is more accurate for the pass and generally a harder more accurate shot.lefty to lefty requires one of the shooter or the passer to be a backhand. Having a right shot offensively skilled D on the power play will add another weapon to an already potent power play.

jp

who: ?
Barries right shot from the point has nothing to do with Chiassons right shot from the net front. Neither one of them is going to be setting up on their off wing for one timers. One does not replace the other.
I think the powerplay is going to miss the lefty point shot, being fed by Nuge as he curls in from the left half wall.
I don’t know why everyone insists the powerplay needs a right shot. 30 percent efficiency with 5 leftys isn’t good enough?

Dellow said PPs need at least on off handed shot option. The Oilers had a middling 5 left shot PP at the time so it became mantra. This despite Dellow’s article showing that 5 right shot PPs have the best results of all permutations (written off due to small sample size).

jp

Bruce McCurdy: He is a surprisingly effective defensvie player. This year Chiasson led all Oilers forwards (min 400 minutes) with just 1.65 GA/60 at 5v5 (only the ever-maligned Kris Russell was better among all skaters at 1.62). Last year was 3rd on team at 2.05 GA/60.

Low event at both ends for the most part, but at least he wasn’t getting caved in goal differential like, say, Sheahan, Khaira & Archibald were.

On the PP, he was #1 in the entire league in GF On/60 at 13.82. This after leading the team in that same category last season. He is extremely effective in that net front role, opens up all kinds of passing lanes behind him and is strong on puck recovery. Very smart player. Not a great athlete, slow boots, suspect hands, but knows what to do when he gets there.

Thanks for this.

I have no issue with the player and have argued for him at times (based on his goal differential and strong underlying numbers this season).

I didn’t realize he lead the league/team in PP GFon this year, and the team last year. Huh.

And suppressing offense at evens isn’t a bad thing (that was the criticism when he played with McDavid after all). Curious juxtaposition of suppressing even strength offense and leading the league in PP on ice offense.

So, who plays LW among the Oilers RWs?

flea

who: ?
Barries right shot from the point has nothing to do with Chiassons right shot from the net front. Neither one of them is going to be setting up on their off wing for one timers. One does not replace the other.
I think the powerplay is going to miss the lefty point shot, being fed by Nuge as he curls in from the left half wall.
I don’t know why everyone insists the powerplay needs a right shot. 30 percent efficiency with 5 leftys isn’t good enough?

I agree with you – the PP was good how it was set up. They’ll have to adapt it to the new right shot at the top.

I guess that means McDavid will be feeding Barrie instead of Nuge feeding Klefbom. Pretty nice tradeoff! McDavid has NEVER had that true RH d man to feed at the point. I’m excited to see it.

Also agree with you that the down low guy is likely better as a left shot now as well. Neal and RNH will have more opportunities to score with that potential point shot coming right to left from the top.

Gerta Rauss

jp: Also, if the Oilers were to sign a Kahun or the like, he’d replace someone else on the 23/24 man roster. So his salary minus the salary of Nygard/Haas etc. is what the Oilers would be adding.

Gerta Rauss: Also, when we are reassigning the waiver guys on day 2, is there enough room for the 4 guys you waived..?…my math could be off but I count 24 bodies

Oh-never mind, I see you addressed this in your original post

who

Scungilli Slushy: How many not really top 6 players with little ability to skate and drive 5v5 play can one team carry?

Neal is a better player and is going nowhere. With Barrie running PP1 Chiasson’s right shot isn’t as important. Which is why I assume he was used given so few RS D with the right stuff for PP.

AC is a fine 4th line player on the right team, but not for the Oilers above league minimum as it stands.

Same with Russell. Equal or better needed help could be available for a 4M cap hit right now.

?
Barries right shot from the point has nothing to do with Chiassons right shot from the net front. Neither one of them is going to be setting up on their off wing for one timers. One does not replace the other.
I think the powerplay is going to miss the lefty point shot, being fed by Nuge as he curls in from the left half wall.
I don’t know why everyone insists the powerplay needs a right shot. 30 percent efficiency with 5 leftys isn’t good enough?

OriginalPouzar

defmn: Should make for an interesting discussion next time the league and the PA get together.

Ya – I can’t imagine the league playing a shortened season without a subsequent agreement (and paying full comp for 48-60 games – with decreased revenues for each game in addition) – the escrow balance would probably get even bigger.

who

LMHF#1:
John Chambers,

Kris Russell will once again be clearly outside the top 6 D available to the Coach.

He will play because hockey coaching still hasn’t evolved.

He hasn’t been roster-worthy for the entirety of his contract.

The Ference-Russell era of hell continues…

The guy is a fourth line forward. Seriously. He’s not a defenceman – much less a good one.

Wow.
You hate Russell like Godot hates Kassian.
But the truth is, Kris Russell has been one of the Oilers 6 best dmen in every year of his contract.
That will end at some point, but it hasn’t yet.

OriginalPouzar

Bruce McCurdy: At least on the empty net side of the equation it’s possible to get a plus when you score in that situation, unlike the PP. Leon was on for a goodly number of ENGF as well. Overall NST has him on for 10 for, 14 against with either goaler out.

I’m sure he scored some, but not all of those 10 ENGF – just bring it up to mention how unbelievable his 50 goals in 2018/19 were considering he scored zero empty net goals.

defmn

OriginalPouzar: I believe the issue here is a discrepancy between what was agreed to as between the NHL/NHLPA it the RTP and CBA extension negotiations and a clause in the standard form player contract.

The SPC contains the following:

If because of any condition arising from a state of war or other cause beyond the control
of the League or of the Club, it shall be deemed advisable by the League or the Club to suspend
or cease or reduce operations, then:

(a) in the event of suspension of operations, the Player shall be entitled only to the
proportion of Paragraph 1 Salary due at the date of suspension,

(b) in the event of cessation of operations, the Paragraph 1 Salary shall be
automatically canceled on the date of cessation, and

(c) in the event of reduction of operations, the Paragraph 1 Salary shall be replaced
by that mutually agreed upon between the Club and the Player, or, in the absence of mutual
agreement, by that determined by neutral arbitration.

Should make for an interesting discussion next time the league and the PA get together.

Bruce McCurdy

BornInAGretzkyJersey: Problem is he’s a slow, offense only player.

He is a surprisingly effective defensvie player. This year Chiasson led all Oilers forwards (min 400 minutes) with just 1.65 GA/60 at 5v5 (only the ever-maligned Kris Russell was better among all skaters at 1.62). Last year was 3rd on team at 2.05 GA/60.

Low event at both ends for the most part, but at least he wasn’t getting caved in goal differential like, say, Sheahan, Khaira & Archibald were.

On the PP, he was #1 in the entire league in GF On/60 at 13.82. This after leading the team in that same category last season. He is extremely effective in that net front role, opens up all kinds of passing lanes behind him and is strong on puck recovery. Very smart player. Not a great athlete, slow boots, suspect hands, but knows what to do when he gets there.

pts2pndr

defmn: Once it became known that the cap wasn’t moving this year or for several years the writing was on the wall. The surprising part for me is the agents for some of these guys who were offered contracts at reduced salaries who said no and took their clients to free agency,

Firing offence imo.

There may be a number of players jettisoning agents and with good cause!

Bruce McCurdy

OriginalPouzar: I just checked and Leon was on the ice for 12 empty net goals against – essentially those are 22 minuses that hit plus/minus that skew the results.

At least on the empty net side of the equation it’s possible to get a plus when you score in that situation, unlike the PP. Leon was on for a goodly number of ENGF as well. Overall NST has him on for 10 for, 14 against with either goaler out.

OriginalPouzar

Cannia

Harpers Hair:
It’s considered good form to link to an article when cannibalizing it to appear informed.

Here’s Lebrun.

https://theathletic.com/2150802/2020/10/20/lebrun-nhl-gms-call-likely-to-focus-on-season-logistics-ahl-start-date/

Harpers Hair:
It’s considered good form to link to an article when cannibalizing it to appear informed.

Here’s Lebrun.

https://theathletic.com/2150802/2020/10/20/lebrun-nhl-gms-call-likely-to-focus-on-season-logistics-ahl-start-date/

Canabalize? OK, ya right.

Referenced the article and was clear when I was expressing my opinion – even doubled down to make it expressly clear.

Wasn’t on a platform where the link could be posted from.

Funniest part is you talking to others about good form – come on, even you couldn’t post that without laughing.

OriginalPouzar

godot10: Teams that lose players due to injury ARE penalized from a cap perspective untill the injured player is eligible to be put on LTIR in 30 days.

Players out with injury and their replacements both count until LTIR kicks in.

True, but on a technical point, if the player is out for term and can be placed on LTIR, his cap hit still counts, it’ll just increase the cap overage cushion.

OriginalPouzar

Kinger_Oil.redux: – if a player gets injured during the season can’t they call someone to replace him?

– The injured player goes on IR and the call up salary “Replaces” that salary

– Teams that lose players due to injury in season aren’t penalized from a cap perspective.

Yes, they can call a player up to replace a player on IR.

The cap hit of the player on IR does not go away and does not increase the cap ceiling of the team.

Teams are often running cap rosters well over 23 because of players on IR.

Yes, teams that lose players to injury in a season are penalized from a cap perspective.

Harpers Hair

It’s considered good form to link to an article when cannibalizing it to appear informed.

Here’s Lebrun.

https://theathletic.com/2150802/2020/10/20/lebrun-nhl-gms-call-likely-to-focus-on-season-logistics-ahl-start-date/

OriginalPouzar

defmn:
BTW Seravelli also mentioned that the NHLPA has been operating on the premise that once they play the first game next season that their contracts will be paid out based upon an 82 game schedule but that the MOU does not say that and that the league is of the opinion that contracts will be based upon the number of games it can schedule subject to the 20% escrow & 10% deferment agreed to.

Not sure how a detail of that importance could slip through without agreement but apparently it did.

I believe the issue here is a discrepancy between what was agreed to as between the NHL/NHLPA it the RTP and CBA extension negotiations and a clause in the standard form player contract.

The SPC contains the following:

If because of any condition arising from a state of war or other cause beyond the control
of the League or of the Club, it shall be deemed advisable by the League or the Club to suspend
or cease or reduce operations, then:

(a) in the event of suspension of operations, the Player shall be entitled only to the
proportion of Paragraph 1 Salary due at the date of suspension,

(b) in the event of cessation of operations, the Paragraph 1 Salary shall be
automatically canceled on the date of cessation, and

(c) in the event of reduction of operations, the Paragraph 1 Salary shall be replaced
by that mutually agreed upon between the Club and the Player, or, in the absence of mutual
agreement, by that determined by neutral arbitration.

OriginalPouzar

digger50:
Kahun should still be the target. He is likely the best pick up of the summer and hes sittin right there!!!

BLH has shared a rumor that Oilers made Kahun an offer but it was not enough and they moved on to Ennis. Interesting.

We don’t know what we don’t know but wasn’t the blog today about uncovering gems by pro scouting? Doesn’t this guys numbers scream he can help at 5X5?

Holland needs to land this guy and sort out the money after, but grab him.

No offence to BLH but that is not new information – Friedman mentioned it on 31 Thoughts with Marek days ago – the Oilers 100% offered Kahun a contract but the money didn’t work for the player. I mentioned it on here (based on Friedman) and Gregor has also mentioned it.

Doesn’t mean they can’t circle back with each other – Ennis’ contract is fully buryable in the AHL, it doesn’t preclude any other signing (although he’d probably get claimed) – Nygard, Hass each fully buryable. Khaira close.

OriginalPouzar

John Chambers:
Kris Russell –

For the fifth (5!) consecutive year this player will slot in to fill a badly-needed hole on the Oilers as a dedicated and versatile defensive player.

Nobody is calling him the second coming of Duncan Keith, but in the absence of anybody definitively better, for equal or less money, and WILLING TO PLAY IN EDMONTON, his skill set has fulfilled a need for a defense-first veteran blueliner every season.

Yes, Russell has undoubtably been a valuable member of the Oilers for the last four years. He was asked to bat above his place in the order (and to switch hit) more often that not and, while his performance in that regard was uneven over the years, he had some very good stretches (i.e. 2RD with Sekera in 2017) and this team would have been alot worse without him over that period.

I would anticipate that there are a few unsigned d-men, that would cost MUCH less than $4M that could fill in for Rusty this year with minimal, if any, pain to the defensive group – and via an overall benefit with the cap savings used elsewhere.

OriginalPouzar

LeBrun with an article out at The Athletic regarding return to play.

The GMs will be meeting this Friday – their first real meeting on the issue.

Of course, with so much up in the air, I don’t anticipate too much substance can be dealt with but I would expect much of the conversation to deal with what level of fans, and for how many games (at each level), can the owners, individually, and as a group, operate at next season – and how pro rating players comp will be required notwithstanding the current NHL/NHLPA agreement to pay comp in full even if there is a Covid shortened season. To be clear, that is my thoughts on the discussion, not what LeBrun advised.

LeBrun did advise that the NHL/NHLPA RTP committees have not met (the NHLPA will be finalizing a 10 person committee soon)

What did hearten me about the article is that organizations seem adamant on the AHL and there being a place for prospects to play. The AHL task force will be providing their recommendations shortly but there is scuttle about the AHL starting even before the NHL – get those guys playing

godot10

Kinger_Oil.redux: – if a player gets injured during the season can’t they call someone to replace him?

– The injured player goes on IR and the call up salary “Replaces” that salary

– Teams that lose players due to injury in season aren’t penalized from a cap perspective.

Teams that lose players due to injury ARE penalized from a cap perspective untill the injured player is eligible to be put on LTIR in 30 days.

Players out with injury and their replacements both count until LTIR kicks in.

Scungilli Slushy

godot10: I have no issues with Chiasson or his contract.The oilogosphere goes to die on some strange hills.

How many not really top 6 players with little ability to skate and drive 5v5 play can one team carry?

Neal is a better player and is going nowhere. With Barrie running PP1 Chiasson’s right shot isn’t as important. Which is why I assume he was used given so few RS D with the right stuff for PP.

AC is a fine 4th line player on the right team, but not for the Oilers above league minimum as it stands.

Same with Russell. Equal or better needed help could be available for a 4M cap hit right now.

defmn

OriginalPouzar: I was thinking about this in the post-2nd workout shower.

To the extent the AHL is playing and the team is in Western Canada (or there is no AHL but a taxi squad that travels with the team) it makes it a viable option.

Not to get cap compliant, mind you, but to reduce the daily cap hit allowing the team to accumulate cap space on a daily basis that gets banked.

Yup. That is also an option. The prudent option imo.

defmn

Jaxon: Definitely see your point. Consider this. You’re an owner whose industry has been hit hard by Covid. You r team needs NHL quality D, but you don’t want to pay NHL quality money. Russell is made available for $750k and you have the cap room for his $2M cap hit. Sure, you could sign Ben Hutton for $1.5M, but you’re saving $750k in real money. Maybe that isn’t insignificant to some owners right now. I don’t know if any of the teams I mentioned are in that situation, but it’s not out of the realm of possibilities. So, yes, squinting, very hard.

Yup. I can see that but what is Hollland doing for his defence in that scenario?

Jaxon

defmn: If you squint you can make the money work if the NMC makes it possible but here is the thing.

If Klef is gone for the season and we trade Russell who comes in to take his place? And once you have answered that why wouldn’t San Jose just sign that guy?

Definitely see your point. Consider this. You’re an owner whose industry has been hit hard by Covid. You r team needs NHL quality D, but you don’t want to pay NHL quality money. Russell is made available for $750k and you have the cap room for his $2M cap hit. Sure, you could sign Ben Hutton for $1.5M, but you’re saving $750k in real money. Maybe that isn’t insignificant to some owners right now. I don’t know if any of the teams I mentioned are in that situation, but it’s not out of the realm of possibilities. So, yes, squinting, very hard.

OriginalPouzar

defmn:
As suspected and mentioned here a few days ago Seravelli just said on tsn.ca that the Leafs intend to carry 20 players in order to be cap compliant with maybe 21 on game days.

I expect every club that can to do something similar. That opens a little more space for teams that want to spend it.

I was thinking about this in the post-2nd workout shower.

To the extent the AHL is playing and the team is in Western Canada (or there is no AHL but a taxi squad that travels with the team) it makes it a viable option.

Not to get cap compliant, mind you, but to reduce the daily cap hit allowing the team to accumulate cap space on a daily basis that gets banked.

OriginalPouzar

I would also add Kemp and Kesserling to the developing RD prospects…… Kemp will turn pro after this year and he’s already indicated he thinks the Oilers and Bakersfield would be a great place for him. Of course, that doesn’t mean that he will sign and test options but its a good arrow for a potential signing.

flyfish1168

OriginalPouzar: I know very little about his game, why he’s had recent struggles, etc. but I am hesitant to be in favor of his acquisition solely because of his history with the Red Wing organization – not because I personally have an issue with Holland acquiring from his old team but because that narrative is already out there and this would intensify and would create vast negativity towards Holland (and the player) based off of it. Potentially warranted but potentially not warranted.

I agree. He had a good junior career and a Memorial cup. Doesn’t guarantee you can transition successfully into the NHL. He is at an age where he may just figure it out.

OriginalPouzar

BornInAGretzkyJersey:
OriginalPouzar,

Bowey was drafted by WSH and the major part of the deal that sent Jensen the other way.

I’m sure the potential they scouted back then is just as intriguing now.

He’d sure look great in our pipeline behind Bouchard on the RHD depth chart, which will be rather barren when Bouchard graduates. Berglund notwithstanding, we do need more RHD matriculating.

Fair enough and, as I said, I don’t have an issue necessarily with the player himself but the optics of it would likely lead to great disdain and I, selfishly, don’t want to have to read through the disdain as I sift through all the Oil info, comments, opinions that I enjoy reading.

OriginalPouzar

Bruce McCurdy:

As for Alex Chiasson, I feel like I’m stone alone in liking the guy. All most seem to see is a contract, & a bad one at that. I see a good veteran role player with strong leadership skills who is solid on the bottom 6 & terrific on the powerplay. I think he came a lot closer to covering that $2.15 million bet than most would rate. I also think the Oilers would miss him.

I don’t disagree with you on Chiasson and his contract being close to value (pre-covid) for performance last year – heard you speak to that many times and you’ve convinced me.

With that said, the issue is broader than just value this past season. Taking away the fact that the market has been turned on its side:

– Chiasson is on of six right wingers including 5 that are legit every day right wingers

– much of Chiasson’s offensive value comes on the PP and its seems likely that the team has cover for him in that regard (not that he doesn’t provide unique value with his puck recovery and PP smarts)

– swapping his $2M for a LW $2M balances the lineup (and, at new market prices, probably acquires a more material player with some potential road ahead with the team).