2020-21 Game 8: Oilers at Jets

by Lowetide

The original Winnipeg Jets were a fine drafting team. Dave Christian, Thomas Steen and Tim Watters in 1979, and then 1980 and 1981 first-round picks Dave Babych and Dale Hawerchuk gave the team a rock solid foundation.

The modern Jets have been fire at the draft table. In the first five years, the team’s first-round picks were Mark Scheifele, Jacob Trouba, Josh Morrissey, Nikolaj Ehlers and Kyle Connor. The impact winger came in year six (Patrik Laine) and later picks like Ville Heinola and Cole Perfetti are going to have long stories to tell.

There’s a lot to respect about how the Winnipeg Jets went about team building. Both times.

THE ATHLETIC!

I’m proud to be writing for The Athletic, and pleased to be part of a great team with Daniel Nugent-Bowman and Jonathan Willis. Here is our recent work.

OILERS IN MONTH NO. 1

  • Oilers in October 2015: 3-5-0, goal differential -5
  • Oilers in October 2016: 7-1-0, goal differential +12
  • Oilers in October 2017: 2-5-1, goal differential -9
  • Oilers in October 2018: 4-3-1, goal differential -4
  • Oilers in October 2019: 7-1-0, goal differential +10
  • Oilers in Month 1 2021: 3-4-0, goal differential -4

The current team most resembles the 2018-19 squad that got Todd McLellan and Peter Chiarelli fired, although in fairness the general manager did a lot of the work himself. There’s lots of pressure on this organization top to bottom, but a win tonight gets them back to even on the year. My look at Evan Bouchard this morning drills down on the defence, and a second pairing wouldn’t go amiss for the coach right now. It’s been a troubled start to the year for several veteran blue.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN MONTH NO. 1

  • At home to: Vancouver, Vancouver (Expected: 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: Montreal, Montreal (Expected: 1-1-0) (Actual 0-2-0)
  • On the road to: Toronto, Toronto, Winnipeg, Winnipeg (Expected 1-2-1) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • At home to: Toronto, Toronto, Ottawa (Expected 2-1-0)
  • Overall expected result: 5-5-1, 11 points in 11 games
  • Current results: 3-4-0, 6 points after seven games

I had tonight as a win, and the beginning of the best stretch of the month (3-1-0) to close out proceedings. I’m not sure this team is good enough to win three of four.

BAKERSFIELD CONDORS TRAINING CAMP ROSTER

Not many legit prospects here, I count Benson, Marody, McLeod and Rodrigue as being a possible part of Edmonton’s future. Important for all of these men to play hockey, good for NHL owners for investing in the futures of these young men.

TAXI SQUAD, IR AND NON-ROSTER

This is the possible recall list, candidates include Joakim Nygard, Jujhar Khaira, Gaetan Haas and Evan Bouchard. I don’t think they’ll activate a goalie and men like Quine and Russell are probably heading to Bakersfield at some point during the year.

CURRENT ROSTER (22)

When the top performers are on the ice, Edmonton does very good things. The problem is Edmonton’s best count eight men plus the goalie. There 10 men nightly bleeding out and coach Tippett isn’t finding easy answers. This is why coaching staffs all have grey hair.

WORD AND DEED

I always listen for the coach to tell me about a young prospect who is pushing for the NHL. Through word and deed, you can usually get a pretty good idea about which way the wind is blowing.

Craig MacTavish was a wonderful coach in this area. Here’s an example. In the fall of 2007, Rob Schremp was pushing for a job opening but seemed to be getting passed by all manner of centers (Sam Gagner, Andrew Cogliano, Kyle Brodziak, Marc Pouliot).

One day, MacT laid it out: “He needs the strength base and the quickness. He’s got to be strong enough to battle at a standstill with players because he’s not going to outskate many players.”

I think Dave Tippett is telling us about Evan Bouchard, not through words (he has been very positive verbally) but through deed. The young man is 21 now, he is ready by any reasonable measure. The Oilers RH veterans (save Ethan Bear) are struggling. This isn’t a difficult problem to solve, simply give the kid a chance and rest Larsson and Barrie a few games each over the next 10 games. Tippett’s Oilers are giving up 10-bell chances on the regular, how could Bouchard be worse?

The coach tells you about his players, even if there are no words. I will tell you that the next 20 games or so will be a major tell as it pertains to Bouchard in this organization. There’s simply no reason to keep him out of the lineup with so many veterans struggling.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, we hit the ground running on TSN1260. Murat Ates from The Athletic Winnipeg will join us at 10:20, I’ll ask him about some interesting new players (Logan Stanley, Ville Heinola, David Gustafsson, Kristian Vesalainen) who are helping the Jets this season. Gerry Moddejonge from Post Media will join me to talk CFL (what a day it was yesterday for the Edmonton Football Team) and life after Scott Milanovich in this city. TSN 1260’s Corey Graham will pop in at 11:25 to talk about Central Scouting’s first 2021 list and the Edmonton Oil Kings content on that list. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual

I was wrong. So so wrong. So horrifically wrong. It IS too much to ask for above 40+ GF% from any Oilers bottom-6. I’m sorry hockey gods.

leadfarmer

Could we just switch Turris with Kahun
kahun seems much more defensively responsible and Turris seems to play like a winger

OriginalPouzar

At least the Oilers don’t have Lucic on the PP in the last minute down a goal…….

McSorley33

Very true.

Sierra

Those in glass houses…

Harpers Hair

Lucic 1G
Neal 0G.

OriginalPouzar

Elias Pettersson – 1G ergo, Lucic = Pettersson

Last edited 1 month ago by OriginalPouzar
Harpers Hair

Squirrel!!!!

OriginalPouzar

What the fuck does that even mean.

You are such a loser.

Bill Clinternet

Why must you take the bait every time?

Sierra

This is a very good question.

achotai

I wonder if the coaching staff could get creative:

x – Mcdavid – y
x – Draisaitl – y
x – Nuge – y

x = Kahun, Neal, Turris, Archibald,
y = Kassian, Pulji, Yamo, Khaira

Your three centers play 20 min a night, the wingers constantly rotate, and you can dress 7 defensemen.

Last edited 1 month ago by achotai
jake70

IMO, Nuge’s offense will tank if he has worse offensive players on his line, but it may be ok in context of a next contract.

Ryan

Brogan Rafferty’s Uncle Steve

January 26, 2021 8:25 pm

The Oilers have to trade for a back-up goalie, four defence, and six forwards or this season is going to be over quick!

That’s the winner of the thread, right there!

OilClog

Drai – Nuge, Yams
McDavid – Kahun, JP
McDavid – Neal, Kass
Shore – PRussell, Nygard

Dress 11 forwards, slam the best line in hockey out there followed by McDavid and wing sets that he bag skates. Anyone that doesn’t look as lost as Turris out there is fine for the 4th if the coach can figure out how to role lines or at least not have your 3rd and 4th getting their head caved in for half the 3rd period. Like wtf coach, ever heard of a time out. Calm the waters, stop the momentum.. Fuck coach.

Nurse Bear
Lagesson Barrie
Kookoo Bouchard
Jones

Slide Jones into wherever a RH is having some worts in game and I dunno try to coach and respond to the game flow.

Play Skinner and give Koski a damn breather or you will have to play Skinner 20 straight due to breaking Koski damn overworked 6’7 hips. Sheesh

hags9k

I like JJ but it’s time.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I was really looking forward to this team being moderately competitive this season (again, low expectations). What a disaster. Back to reading and re-watching the IT crowd for me.

Bling

They are 3-5 despite some horrible performances from Larsson, Barrie, and Turris and a brutal bottom six. One bad period prevented them from being 4-4.

I think you have to try Shore as the 3C next game and get Bouchard in.

OriginalPouzar

Shore has been getting just as caved on the 4th line as all other iterations of that line. He was very poor the last two games, getting caved and making egregious mistakes just like Turris and the rest of them.

TheGreatBigMac

Who else can we try at center, Marody? I think they want to wait on McLeod. I know Hauss is coming but apparently we need two centers.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I am shocked by how bad Turris and Barrie have been. I had low expectations and I am still amazed.

Sierra

Agreed

leadfarmer

These guys forgot how to defend. What a mess.
I never want to see Turris on the ice again
we should have just saved our money and spent it on Granlund like I wanted to

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Kassian too. Completely uninterested and clueless in his own zone.

HugThePost

I think the bigger question is: are Connor and Leon happy? The day one or both decide they are tired of the losing, the org is screwed. They have all of the leverage. Look at PL Dubois—-he decided he wanted out and he got his wish. Imagine what would happen when/if one or both of the most recent league scoring champs decides he wants out. We are all tired of watching this team invent new ways of losing. Imagine what it’s like for 29 and 97 to work their bags off every night to try outscore the many mistakes their teammates make.

At this rate, Nugey should get out while he has some career left to play.

Sierra

If this is the real Oilers do we think Nuge has any interest in staying? Especially without exploring what else is out there.

Last edited 1 month ago by Sierra
Bling

Larsson was good today. Fourth line was even, and P. Russell had a nice assist. Kassian with some nice looks, unlucky not to have scored one.

Turris was brutal. After a -3 today, he is -8 in 8 games. I just don’t see any upside in this player’s game. Mistakes in the d-zone and really not much doing in the offensive zone.

I don’t know what you do here.

Scratch Turris and insert Shore? Scratch Turris and make Nuge a C?

They have to do something, because the third line is a huge liability with Turris out there.

Sierra

Agreed, Turris has been real bad, but if RNH is made 3C, who plays LW with McD?

OilClog

Other then the goal he scored I saw a Larsson that was up and off the glass all night, while also losing man on man grit battles. Thought he looked like a 3rd pairing defender that plays about half a season imo.

McSorley33

Larsson was much better today.

The 4th line got killed tonight

Archibald 3CF / 10CA
JJ 4 /10
Russell 4 / 11

fishman

Bottom 6 and a couple weak D do us in again. Same script repeating.

kgo

It’s funny…to start the season most of us were marvelling at our Right side D depth….but 8 games in, I would fire Barrie and Larsson into a cannon…and Bear looks like Matt Benning….What the hell happened!?

OilClog

Matt Benning was the glue.

Crazy Pedestrian

Ok, so Bear is now the glue.

But the way Russell, Barrie and Larsson have been playing, they must be the nail polish remover.

And Turris is definitely the painters tape with drywall dust stuck on the back…

Sierra

Over estimating Barrie

Jaxon

WTF. Someone tell me why the coach didn’t call for a timeout right after the goal with only 1:50 left to rest his best and put them right back out there? Put McDavid, Draisail, and one of Puljujarvi, Yamamoto, Nugent-Hopkins, or Neal with Nurse and Barrie for the final minute and a half. Why!?

OilClog

Davey Tipps was liking what he was seeing.

JOFA

Turris was going to be the difference maker😉

Jaxon

And if he wasn’t going to use his timeout anyway, then why the hell didn’t he review that goal?

godot10

Kahun and Draisaitl still have 0 even strength goals at even strength together. One Yamamoto on that line is enough. A 2nd bigger less good one in Kahun kills the offense.

Harpers Hair

I questioned whether Kahun was a top 6 player and was shouted down by the mob.

He isn’t.

OriginalPouzar

Kahun has one less point at 5 on 5 on the season than Elias Pettersson and one less point than him overall despite 34 less minutes of PP time.

Perhaps 8 games is not determinative.

Harpers Hair

Squirrel!!!!

godot10

Have you checked where the Oilers and Canucks are in the standings?

8 games is 15% of the season.

There was the play-in. 4 games. And the 5 games before the pandemic.

So the Oilers are nearing 17 games of not being a playoff team.

How many games do you want to wait.

Is Nugent-Hopkins anywhere near the top 10 in NHL scoring like he was with Draisaitl?

Draisaitl was scoring at a rate not seen in over a decade.

OriginalPouzar

I was talking about making sweeping statements regarding a player based off his stated over 8 games and disregarding stats from previous years. If that’s the case, Elias Pettersson is also not a top 6 player.

kgo

Tippett shot himself in the foot in the 3rd period…when he left the 4th line out for 3 successive faceoffs resulting in a GA.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Tippett shot himself in the foot by letting the third and fourth lines on the ice. FTFY.

SK Oiler Fan

With the Stastny line out against them yet

wood99

It is very frustrating watching us get out worked all the time. Why did don’t Tippet call a timeout to let his top guys rest? Did he call one earlier that I missed. If he didn’t then I think it was a horrible coaching decision.

Sierra

Good question on the time out.

SK Oiler Fan

Agreed. Should have been right after the goal to water the horses

JOFA

Trap anyone? Anyone?

hags9k

Good teams can kill clock and limit chances when you are tied or leading. Especially important on the road. Up 3-1 on the road? Should be a Minnesota special snooze fest for as long as possible. Make it a small game. We just haven’t been able to hold a lead since Roloson.

SK Oiler Fan

How the hell are they ever going to keep the puck out of their net with this D and an average G? 33 plus shots again and 15 plus grade A chances I’m sure. Holland with a big wiff on the back end

rickithebear

It is time to free Russell and Larson from the defensive discease that are Nurse and Russell.
But he we can add another bottom 40 def dman in Bouchard.

The 1980’s Flat earth off dmen Philosophy in hockey Analytics has been proven to be a failure for 25 years.

OilClog

There’s more then 1 Russell?

Are we about to be invaded by the Mark Fistric army?

Bling

You’ve picked a strange day to defend Russell.

Having him and Barrie giving up the line so easily is a recipe for disaster. That’s the second game in a row that’s been a problem.

StixMalone

This team will never win 2 in a row…..

Sierra

Turris and Kass out with 1 minute left & down by a goal? WTF

Bling

Tipp can’t put anyone else out there. Drai and McDavid were both just out for long shifts.

It’s either the Turris or Khaira line.

Sierra

Kailer? Kahun? And one of McD, Drai and RNH is better than Turris and Kass.

How about calling a time out?

Last edited 1 month ago by Sierra
Bling

Yup he should’ve called a time out, you’re right.

Gerta Rauss

never mind

Eh Team

The playoffs are going to be out of reach soon if we keep running Russell and Turris out there.

Crazy Pedestrian

Yep… Oilers badly Need the skills of Broberg and Bouchard in the lineup… too bad they’re still a couple years away from making any real difference… Bouchard might crack the lineup this season, but he likely won’t be a difference maker quite yet.

McDavid must be livid right now…

Gerta Rauss

woot…!

still time left

Crazy Pedestrian

Nope… oilers should know better than to pull their goalie… they don’t have the defence to hold up the blue line…

Sierra

Somebody was ragging on the Flames earlier. Might want to flip the channel.

Last edited 1 month ago by Sierra
Bling

Good lord McDavid

OilClog

There’s still time!

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

The Oilers have to trade for a back-up goalie, four defence, and six forwards or this season is going to be over quick!

Last edited 1 month ago by Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve
hags9k

The Oilers with a lead is like pouring a nice brew into a frosted mug. Looks great but you know it’s not going to last long.

McSorley33

imagine if Dubois was playing?

OilClog

Gotta love the battle in Koski

Sierra

Turris shot it right into goalie pads on a 2 on 1.

Kert

Twice.

SK Oiler Fan

What a dumb play by Dria. Can’t stand pointless penalties

fishman

Well that was a frustration penalty.

Réal Goudenyéu

worst defence in the league. rediculous.

18 shots. this team doesn’t give a shit about actually playing this year clearly.

how many years have we had McDavid now? what an absolute joke.

fire the coach? fire the GM? who cares.

yet another wasted year.

I quit.

godot10

Worst forward support of the D in the league.

Sierra

Doesn’t change the fact that the D men are shit

fishman

Jets have a really nice compliment of tough, hard skating, skilled forwards. Wait until they get Dubois going. Big tough team built for playoffs. Missing a couple of D.

Pretendergast

Same as it ever was, its time to accept this team just isn’t very good. The bottom 6 is bad, Koskis overworked, d are porous. Is this 2011? Better things to do than watch for the near future. Ill enjoy watching the Connor and Leon highlights in all of our 5-3 losses.

leadfarmer

This team is absolutely awful defensively
feel bad for Koskinen

Sierra

whose played 3 in 4 nights and 6 in 9?

Groggie

3 in 4. That’s nothing. Wait till we play our 10 back-to-back. It could get real ugly.

Bulging Twine

yep, have to win those

Bulging Twine

arrrrrrggghhhhhh

hags9k

They just can’t keep the puck out of the net. Same as it ever was.

LMHF#1

And again Nurse floating…

Should’ve turned over the D in the off-season. This mix is just wrong.

OilClog

Maybe they should of challenged the offside 🤣

McSorley33

That is another clutch Goal against from the Turris line.

How much longer ?

Team Deflated

SK Oiler Fan

Bear needs to sit again apparently. Brutal pass then he’s swimming to no where

JOFA

Swarming not swimming😉

Gerta Rauss

Help us Yamamoto, you’re our only hope

fishman

OK pull Koski and give him a break..

wood99

Hey don’t disparage are veteran dman,or Tippet will take out jones🤬🤬🤬

Bulging Twine

lol