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Tarkus

Riders!

Optimism is like heroin

In regards to Broberg. I wonder if he has a skills coach hired to work on playing the right side? There is a huge opportunity for ice time if Nurse/Broberg is a better pair than Nurse Ceci.

defmn

Broberg and Nurse is a duplication of skill sets imo rather than complementary.

I prefer complementary pairings.

Optimism is like heroin

My preference is he plays lhd. However I also believe Ceci will leave before Kulak so the opportunity is on the right.

defmn

Agreed on Ceci but I want to see Broberg with Ekholm in TC and Nurse with Bouchard.
Complementary skills for both pairs.
And, yes, I know there are all sorts of reasons for status quo but those pairs have the highest potential if Broberg can hold serve long enough to get comfortable.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I know people say this, but I am not sure how they are stylistically similar? I guess they are both plus skaters. Otherwise, I do not see many similarities in their respective games.

winston

So Biron thinks Canucks is the best cdn team (on paper) heading into 24/25 season..really??? 🤦🏽‍♂️

misfit

While I don’t agree, they did win the Pacific last year. The players that walked in free agency were rentals. They replaced Lindholm/Kuzmenko with DeBrusk, and Zadorov with Desharnais/Forbort. The defense is clearly a downgrade, but again, only from the last part of the year, and the forward could be an upgrade.

They still have Vezina-calibre goaltending, and aside from JT Miller, the majority of their team is young enough that you could very likely expect improvement just from further development.

The Great One

They still have two glaring needs.

They need another top 6 forward in addition to DeBrusk to bump Pius Suter down to 3C.

There is some speculation they could be looking at Nik Ehlers who is apparently on the block in Winnipeg (the Jets have 16 forwards on the roster) but they would have to perform some cap gymnastics to pull that off.

They also have expressed the desire to add a puck moving 2/3 RD and could use the Tucker Poolman LTIR to facilitate that.

This would allow them to move Tyler Myers to 3RD and designate Vincent Desharnais to #7

Bank Shot

4 of the Canucks top six goal scorers from last year rode unsustainable shooting percentage. Regression is more likely than progression in their cases.

Gi JQE

This seems like click bait by Biron.

Oilers just went to the finals. But saying someone else is going to stir up a lot more media traffic…

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Scungilli Slushy

This has always been the way

Perfect. Show disrespect and it motivates

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Canucks are a Bubble team saved by the complete and utter incompetence of Rob Blake.

The Great One

Someone posted earlier that Detroit seemed to be loading up with over the hill veterans which prompted me to do a search of Cap Friendly rosters to determine which teams have the oldest rosters,

And, it appears he was right which given where they are in their rebuild is somewhat curious.

The 5 oldest rosters in the NHL

EDM 30.5
DET 30.4
PIT 29.9
LAK 29.5
TBL 29.4

The 5 youngest rosters

BUF 25.8
MTL 26.1
ANA 26.2
UTH 26.7
PHA 26.8

No surprises in the younger group but seeing FLA and OTT not far out at 27.5 was.

FLA has only 4 regulars 30 or older including 35 year old Bobrovsky.

OriginalPouzar

With the two oldest Oilers being their 12F/13F.

Context matters.

Why do you keep changing handles?

Gi JQE

This is key

Im curious.

Oldest rosters based on say:
Top 6? (Or even 9)
Top 4 d
Starter

I know thats kinda moving goal posts.

But if a team has all 22 yrd stars vs a team with their stars being 35. That isnt the same…

The Great One

Oilers

Top 6 30.1

Top 4D 29.75 (depends on Broberg deployment)

Goaltenders (they both play) 28.5

Scratches (Ryan, Janmark, J. Brown) 32.7

It certainly is a “veteran” squad.

leadfarmer

Why did you intentionally omit Perry?

Sierra

I’m not in the least worried about the Oilers average age for the upcoming season, or two, no matter how many times you bring it up under your various screen names.

The Great One

Florida

Top 6 28
Top 4D 29.5
Goaltenders 29

dulock

What’s wild here is that Bobrovsky (35) is going to be backed up by Driedger (30) not Knight (23). If you have a point, why do you need to lie?

The Great One

The Oilers have 16 players over the age of 30 and Darnell Nurse will be joining them in February for a total of 17.

Context matter a lot.

OriginalPouzar

Yup, 30 year olds like Kulak, Ceci, Stecher, right in their prime years, with 1-2 years left on their contracts….. seems perfect.

Hyman will likely be an issue in a few years but, of course, for now, this is player that scored 54 goals in the regular season and the most playoff goals by a single player in decades.

Kane’s age is an issue.

One would think that Ekholm’s age might be an issue, then again, only a couple of years left on that contract and he was 12th in Norris voting this past season.

Why do you keep changing your handle?

Ancient Oilers Fan

Ekholm should be fine.

That 1973 ParticipACTION ad said the average 60 year old Swede was as physically fit was the average 30 year old Canadian.

dulock

The Oilers have 4 players over the age of 32. I mean, we can play this game forever but why can’t you be honest about what we’re actually looking at?

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The Grate One

meanashell11

He has to

winchester

My opinion is that if the Oilers had healthy McDavid and Draisaitl they would be holding two cups right now.

But they are not because everybody knows you target them, hunt them, and get in any nasty crosscheck or slash anyway you can. It works, its effective, its apparently within the rules, and every playoffs its the same. It will be this way again.

I conclude that until this is recognized and addressed in a meaningful way, it will make no difference how many goals they add to the roster.

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Scungilli Slushy

It’s been discussed forever. However I don’t think that there is a way for a team to protect individual players completely. I do think that it helps having aggressive functional players that will give back and go after the other team’s best players

But there aren’t that many of them out there that play well. We have one in Kane if that works out. They addressed it at the draft really, looking for skill and a hard game

I have said many times there is a macho culture still around the Oilers that asks the high skill players to play physically. I think that is folly, especially for Connor. He and Drai need to learn to play in a way that avoids as much abuse as possible. They’ve proven they can take it and do it, it’s just counter productive

It should be the bottom 6 and bottom D bringing the heat and getting hits in, and no they didn’t really address that. But the Duo can work to avoid as much as possible, and they should because as you said the best way to the Cup is stay healthy, the rest doesn’t matter

Also I hope the coaches talk to guys about getting in when they jump the skill guys. Learn how to do it and don’t fail. If you don’t you sit

Gi JQE

There was a fantasitc article blowing out of the water the concept that “aggresive players” deter injuries.

When savards career was ended lucic had just left the ice, chara was on the ice, and the Bruins were one of the toughest teams.

The article went through 3 or 4 of the most blatant star players being targeted and the “tough/ deterrent ” players were there and on the ice… they did not stop the injuries from happening.

I love aggressive and strong players. But I believe the gordie howe elbow is more likely to deter than having kane on the line with you. Kane or lucic or whoever does not deter a knee on knee hit or check from behind.

drewbot

I don’t think it’s a matter of having heavyweights on the ice to drop their gloves. I believe that an aggressive team that is keeping an opponent on its heels with its own heads up is less focused on targeting key opponents. We have been told for years players wear down with constant pressure.

daniel

Yes. And you can have players who hit and crosscheck to injure.

daniel

The Matt Cookes of the world do not protect your stars: they injure the opponents star players. The selection and deployment of these players is intentional.

When Kane is healthy, he’s one of these players. Every hit from him, along the boards, his knee pad is accidentally in the back of the knee of the player he’s checking.

You can win by being tough and playing dirty. This was a component of EDM’s victory over CGY in 2022. We were better and tougher and we scared those cowards back to the states.

daniel

do think that it helps having aggressive functional players that will give back and go after the other team’s best players”

💯true, especially in the playoffs.

Without Kane and Desharnais we don’t have enough jam. Foegele tried to be physical. This is too bad for a team with such a great PK.

Josh Brown isn’t good enough to be relied on to provide this on a regular basis.

I would say that this more skilled lineup is also a lot softer. And that can and should matter in a best of 7.

I’m not convinced Knoblauch sees it that way though. Maurice does. Was Maurice more successful than Knoblauch because he coached his players to play dirty? Maybe.

Ryan

It’s a fair point.

The Avalanche are one of the softer teams to win the cup lately. They had the best whistle in the history of the game on their side though.

They were pushed out of the playoffs by Ryan Reeves along with a physical forecheck of the Knights, the year prior to winning.

While, the days of outright headshots like Matt Cooke on Savard, have seemingly disappeared, there are very little ramifications for players that try to injure other players with crosschecks or with a slew foot.

Florida wasn’t a particularly big team, but they had a good number of aggressive players that were willing to cross the line. Bennett didn’t throw a hit, including his “accidental collision with McDavid” without his feet in the air. I don’t think he got called for charging once.

It’s always a balance between skill and aggressive players, but you do need both. Dallas was like a walk on the beach compared to the other teams we played.

daniel

It’s always a balance between skill and aggressive players, but you do need both. ““

💯

€√¥£€^$

Cross the line and embellish.

I am convinced the Luostarinen knee on knee incident was 100% a tactic, which Barkov also employed at the end of the game as Bennett also did. I think tactic was not only to draw penalties, but also suspensions.

What a bunch of dirty, rotten cheats and scumbags that team is…

OriginalPouzar

Is there anything the team can do to address it via the roster?

I say, nope.

Gi JQE

I agree with OP here.

And I think we as fans are naive to think otherwise… based on a fair number of well articulated articles i have read over the past 10 years

daniel

The reason you have tough and dirty players isn’t to protect your players.

You have tough and dirty players to injure your opponent and win. It’s straightforward.

As long as those players are also skilled, you can win that way.

Lucic was a beast in 2011. In 2013 they don’t disgrace the Leafs without him. When he checked players, he hurt them. Those bumps and bruises added up and helps the Bruins win.

It’s a legitimate strategy in today’s NHL.

daniel

“Is there anything the team can do to address it via the roster?
I say, nope.”

Yes you can address it in the roster. Until the league protects the players, you can have players that hurt the opponents stars. And that can be one way of winning or trying to win.

Zadorov injured Leon intentionally. Desharnais was injured intentionally.

if your team has a Zadorov, you will injure the opposition intentionally.

daniel

This is on the league.

-League needs to make protecting players a priority. It’s not.

-97 drew 12 penalties 5v5 in the playoffs according to NST, Penalties drawn per 60 was 1.66, he was 45th. In the regular season that number was 1.7. Both numbers are too small.

-League needs to train and hire younger refs. All the refs that work the Stanley Cup Final have been over 40, with most being older than 50. They can’t keep up with the players, they don’t move fast enough, they interfere with play, they can’t see and react well enough to actually make the calls.

-The refs have a bias against Western Canadian teams: they are shorthanded more than average. The problem has been worse post-1993.

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daniel

“It works, its effective, its apparently within the rules, and every playoffs its the same. It will be this way again.”

I agree 💯.

But you can also be the team that injures your opponent.

Knoblauch’s Oikers are not that team. Which, given our PK is a bit of a strange choice.

Kane is a player who can intimidate and injure when he’s healthy. He was a bit that way vs Vancouver, but I think Zadorov took more than his pound of flesh. Kane probably did some damage on Hughes.

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winchester

One very poor mistake it to not be able to see a players peak performance.

Derrick Ryan, while we love him, his peak was 22/23 Time to start coaching.
Corey Perry peak was many moons ago and while his decline has been slow, he is well below replacement value.

OriginalPouzar

and there are prospects that will be pushing for Ryan’s job.

Perry was above replacement level last regular season (albeit very poor on the playoffs) but I believe most of his value is not related to on-ice play.

If the complaint is aging out of the 11F-13F (while being pushed by younger players), well, that’s a very good thing.

Optimism is like heroin

My dream scenario is Ryan getting pushed down to the Ahl. Is available for playoff depth and then takes a coaching role in Bakersfield for next season.

OriginalPouzar

He very well could get supplanted by Philp (and/or Pederson – but that’s a totally different style of player).

Optimism is like heroin

On need I think Philp will be the one as rh face off guys are in short supply.

A dark horse would be Lavoie.

Scungilli Slushy

Last season they scored 292 goals 64 on PP

This roster has 314 goals based on last season on it, halving Kane to 12 G. That’s 7% more, and we can assume that because there is more skill top 6 everyone gets a bump that was on last season’s roster, and the new guys playing on a better team. I think from what we saw Bro will get more than Des’s 1G

In the KK era they were +69, I wonder if they better that as well? Or it’s firewagon because it’s too much fun? I don’t think they can challenge the GDiff record, +216 Habs 76/77, wow. If they can keep the D play dialed in it could be quite a show

Scungilli Slushy

The highest last season was Avs 302

Kert

Skinner, Arvidsson and a full year of Henrique are all marvelous things. But what if McDavid is 100% healthy all year and gets back to being a 60 goal scorer, too?

Scungilli Slushy

Lots of potential to blow teams out. The backend is still iffy, that can really hamper the forwards which I think was a part of the problem last season

If Bro is able to do his thing it will be a big improvement though for one pair

Reja

With this juggernaut of a forward line-up as long as it works with the cap the older players can skip a game here are there if they’re knicked up.

winchester

The forwards are talented but one dimensional. They will likely struggle against defence like Vancouver. They can overcome it but wont be blowing out certain teams.

Scungilli Slushy

Yes but Arvidsson is far more aggressive than Foegele. I think they will be better at attacking the net inside, and the duo have players that have better finish. I haven’t watched Skinner play in years but he’s a big improvement over Nuge in scoring and finishing by the numbers other than Nuge’s outlier season

cowboy bill

The team will be better equipped with McDavid out of the line up. I don’t see a problem if McDavid is 100% healthy all year and gets back to being a 60-goal scorer.

winchester

Count on McDavid being injured in the playoffs next year.

And Skinner, Arvidsson or Henrique wont be able to lift a finger to prevent it.

Gi JQE

Is the spirit of dsf back???

Spartacus

I’m renting a VRBO in Penticton this week and the owner is Steve Kozari’s Mother. 👩

The place is beautiful, immaculately kept and, unsurprisingly, there are a LOT of rules.

Tarkus

Try not to point skyward, lest you become forever discriminated against!

Sierra

Are the rules enforced?

McSorley33

Rent it next spring…..anything goes then

Scungilli Slushy

Trash it!

Reja

The family is making a fortune on Sports Select especially Hockey.

Scungilli Slushy

Heh heh

OriginalPouzar

At this point, it’s getting tough to imagine Kane not starting the season on LTIR::

Stauffer Projected lines for the @EdmontonOilers 

Skinner-McDavid-Hyman
RNH-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Janmark-Henrique-Brown
Holloway-McLeod-Perry/Ryan

*Not sure where Evander Kane is health-wise right now 

Thoughts?

delooper

Still a while until the season begins. There can be trades. Players can have unanticipated surgeries, other signings can happen, etc, etc. There’s a lot of things that could potentially happen that are near-impossible to anticipate, given that we don’t know what’s actually going on.

OriginalPouzar

Of course, however, my reason for the strong presumption of Kane on LTIR is that I believe Stauffer is “providing the company message”- I really don’t see him throwing that out there without instruction, or at least “sign-off” from his bosses.

Scungilli Slushy

Given how beat up Kane is ~12 weeks seems like a short timeline to return. The interwebs say non surgical is 6-12 weeks to sports activity, but it sounds like also a hip issue as well as athletic pubalgia. Then he has to get into game shape

Who knows but you would definitely air on the side of caution so the AP is not aggravated again. I could see 4-6 months no problem

Nail in the coffin

If the hip needs resurfacing it took Patrick Kane 6 months to step back on the ice and play.

fishman

Oh you have to like that forward group! Perry/Ryan could be replaced easily enough.

dulock

Yeah, watching Jackson’s availability he mentioned the agent and second opinion and essentially “due diligence” which is code for the player and team aren’t seeing eye to eye but the agent or player doesn’t want the injury made public. I’d assume it’ll be LTIR but they don’t want to state that move officially

jp

Yeah, watching Jackson’s availability he mentioned the agent and second opinion and essentially “due diligence” which is code for the player and team aren’t seeing eye to eye but the agent or player doesn’t want the injury made public.

I took it as code for ‘player and org agree he’s going on LTIR but we can’t say all that publicly at this point’.

OriginalPouzar

When you add in Stauff’s recent tweet, I lean to that as well.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

That first line is going to be Supernova the whole season. If McDavid’s healed up and shoots again (98 shots less than 22/23) they will literally be unstoppable. Curious to see how many they give up. They’ll outscore it, zero question, but something to watch.

Skinner is going to score 50 goals.

Man its going to be fun watching McD hit 1,000 points. Eighteen points to go, 11 games to tie Bossy for 3rd fastest, 10 games to take it outright. This is incredible. The NHL should have a countdown ticker up. The Oilers need one regardless. You have to market this, its crazy impressive.

Scungilli Slushy

As usual I’ll be more concerned how Skinner plays defensively – or if – not his wheelhouse

The playoffs are so different, a boatload of reg season goals is great, but I want the line to handle any other and outscore them again post season, maybe with more ability to finish when the chips are down this time, but not be high event. It’s just too risky to play the final teams that way

I think Arvid if healthy is good the way he has played I think

OriginalPouzar

Skinner is 50% or great in goal share at 5 on 5 each of the last three seasons, on a very “meh” team.

Scungilli Slushy

They are a weird team. Of there top 20 players 5v5 only 3 were below 50%, SV% even looks OK

cowboy bill

Kane continues to be a mystery. However, it’s no mystery that Perry & Ryan need to be replaced on this roster ASAP.

winchester

I do agree. And those replacements need to be bulls. Not fighting, but physical, fast, in your face players.

OriginalPouzar

That could be Lavoie and Philp in fairly short order.

winchester

Thoughts? What are Ryan and Perry doing there.

OriginalPouzar

I think Perry is there because he was overtly fantastic in the leadership area – we could even see this from the stands – the conversations with players, etc.

Ryan is here as the established vet that needs to be beat out by the prospect pushing – that should be Philp.

OriginalPouzar

 At a guess, I would say Edmonton’s RH side on defense right now is Evan Bouchard, Philip Broberg, Cody Ceci, Josh Brown, Troy Stecher, Phil Kemp, Connor Carrick and Max Wanner. Wanner will pass many of them, maybe this season, but Carrick could see playing time in the NHL if the position sees multiple injuries.

I personally have Stecher well ahead of Josh Brown notwithstanding their NHL salaries.

I know Brown has the size and physicality that is a natural replacement for Vinny but everything I see and read and hear about Brown is, well, not good (and I can’t really say I have any thoughts on him from views, never really though about him).

I might even have Phil Kemp ahead of Josh Brown – well, I guess not yet but I could see Kemp passing Brown on merit if the call up is that “defensvie minded guy”. Kemp is as ready as he’ll ever be – would like to see him get a real opportunity over a guy like Brown – of course, if Kemp earns it with continued good play.

Scungilli Slushy

I’m having trouble getting the RD signings. Stecher at PIQ had better results neither get many points

Brown has been playing not all but a lot of games, Stecher has been more of a regular. Neither are great or been in the AHL for a while. Why would they want to play less games or in the A? Will they sit another D other than Bro? Will one get sent down and would they clear?

dulock

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Oilers kept both in the NHL all season but it also makes sense that two former Coyotes would accept the possibility of the AHL to play for a contender. They both have multi-year “don’t pick me up on waivers” deals that can also be buried and both are 30. I can see these being the “D is set” moves and I can also see these as the “Ceci found a new home” moves. We’ll have to wait and see.

OriginalPouzar

Got to imagine that Josh Brown is slatted for the AHL and will slide right through waivers (and maybe that’s the reason for the 3-year term, so that he slides through).

Notwithstanding their salaries, I would have to imagine that Stecher is 7D and Brown 8D (and competing with Kemp for 8D) as it stands right now.

I think there would be a MUCH bigger chance of Stecher getting claimed than Brown.

Scungilli Slushy

I think so to with Stecher

90s fan

I would assume any injury on D gets filled on the right side. If its a left side injury, broberg fills the LS hole, with one of those aforementioned righties coming into 3RD.

cowboy bill

What’s important is that they have 8 RHD that possibly could see ice time at the NHL level.

OriginalPouzar

Raphael Lavoie is in a similar position but has a chance to make a first impression on coach Kris Knoblauch this fall. Lavoie is a volume shooter with a heavy and sneaky release, and is coming off a 28-goal season with Bakersfield.

I think he’s in another tough spot this sesaon.

Jackson somewhat blocked him by re-signing Cory Perry, no?

I think it would behoove the player to reject his QO and sign an league minimum deal (likely with a higher AHL salary) – a deal that was offered to him last season and, against his agent’s advise, he rejected and “bet on himself”.

To be honest, I’d have preferred them not to sign Perry and have a player like Lavoie with an opportunity to win a spot. I mean, even if Lavoie is “better” during camp, do we see the org waiving Perry to start the season?

dulock

I think Lavoie would sign a one or two year one-way deal at the minimum. Last year, I think he signed his QO on the last possible day because he didn’t like the Oilers offer and ultimately lost out while playing just 7 games. I doubt Lavoie gets picked up if he is sent down this year so I would guess he’d take a similar deal to Hamblin & Philp as he’s in a 4-way fight for the 14th forward spot. I don’t mind him having to fight past Perry as it’s one more player worth of depth and the Oilers leadership wants Perry on the team.

Scungilli Slushy

He also has made a clear case he’s ready for the NHL, he’s closish but there’s a lot they are looking for

dulock

definitely, yeah. He’d have made another NHL team by now and if he was a centre I’d suspect the Oilers would have kept him all year.

Scungilli Slushy

I actually meant to say he hasn’t made a clear case – oops

cowboy bill

It would be wonderful to see Raphael Lavoie beat Corey Perry out of a roster spot to start the season.

OriginalPouzar

Agreed, it seems unlikely though.

Will Lavoie even get a line rush in cap with a Nuge or a Henrique or will he be with James Stephan and James Hamblin?

Actually, this will be something interesting come September – no idea how this new coach will run his training camp – I wonder if Knobby even knows at this point?

OriginalPouzar

Olivier Rodrigue is a prospect I can see making the NHL for a few games in 2023-24. It’s important to remember his progression to a top-10 AHL goalie isn’t recent. He finished No. 9 in 2022-23 (.912) and No. 10 (.916) in 2023-24. Rodrigue has delivered as a starter or co-starter in the world’s best minor league for two years now. It’s time for a look.

I agree with all of this but what do we make, if anything, of the rumblings that the org thinks he’s a full two seasons away?

dulock

Probably that the organization doesn’t know he has to play 28 games over the next two years to avoid being a Group VI UFA 🤣🤣

AsiaOil

This coming season is the time for him to see a few games. He’s probably ready as a backup next year and 1B the year after if all goes very well. I was sure that Dubnyk and Skinner would be starters early on. Didn’t have any confidence in anyone else we drafted over the years. Rodrigue is somewhere in the middle. Never had a good feel for him but a Laurent Brossoit kind of career seems possible. If he plays well this coming season then the door will be open for him to backup in 25-26. He’s got to beat out Pickard over the next 14 months which is fine. The goaltending pipeline is in good shape and well spaced. Intrigued by the new Finnish kid from the wilderness who I will follow.

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OriginalPouzar

Lane Pederson is a RH center who can make things happen in the offensive zone and is no slouch in the defensive zone. He delivered 46-39 (54 percent) outscoring at even strength a year ago, while scoring 22-30-52 in 66 games. I was surprised the Oilers didn’t recall him during 2023-24, and am convinced he’s at or near the top of the recall list now. Oilers like him plenty, he solves the AHL No. 1 center problem in a big way. How do I know? Check out his AHL salary.

Presumably it will take Philp a bit of time to get back up to speed and rolling but do you see Pederson as a recall option over Philp?

For me, Philp is the natural successor to Ryan – more of the 2-way responsible, tougher to player against, right shot player.

dulock

The Oilers have been searching for a checking 3/4 RHC for a few years now. I’d suggest Pederson will be the top option until Philp passes him. Pederson is a UFA at the end of the year but has NHL experience so he’s this season’s guy but Philp is well ahead of the rest of the RHC prospects (Grubbe, Chiasson, Copponi, Wakely, O’Reilly) and could see games in 2025.

cowboy bill

Philp will inevitably succeed Ryan and quite possibly MacLeod.

Toupée Shakur

I am most curious about what O-Rod, Rafa and Philp bring this year. Would be super sweet if one or more of these three showed NHL level abilities this season and gave some low cap hit options moving forward.

OriginalPouzar

I’d be surprised if Philp isn’t in the NHL come at some point after the turn of the calendar (unless he has regressed from where he finished off a year ago, after getting back up to speed).

WRX02

Duh – Stuart Skinner, but point taken.

Bruce McCurdy

Skinner hasn’t “seen the career progression anticipated” either, he jumped from fourth & last on that list of goalies to being The One,

McSorley33

What are the Detroit Red Wings doing?

Kane will be 36 in November

Tarasenko – 33 in December

Jack Campbell?

Cam Talbot?

Erik Gustafsson

Chiarot is 33

Jeff Petry will be 37 in December

If Stevie Y does not hit a shot with the Seider kid – does he still have a job?

AsiaOil

Holland’s fault…..ha ha ha

Scungilli Slushy

I called Stevie and asked why he has 4 NHL goalies under contract?

He said that the coaches came up with a way to reduce GA, and that they will be playing 2 goalies in net same time each game. Not sure if it’s side by side of front back yet

90s fan

Ha. The small G goes in front and sits in the butterfly. The bigger goalie plays upright in the back.

Perhaps Stevie remembers when Roli caught fire and beat them in 06. So he thinks, lets get 4 old goalies and see if one can catch fire.

Dee Dee

Master-Blaster rules Bartertown!

The Great One

Detroit just traded Robby Fabbri to Anaheim for goaltender Gage Alexander.

The Red Wings now have a total of 7 goaltenders under contract including former first round pick Sebastian Cossa.

One of their unsigned goaltenders is 2023 second round pick Trey Augustine who is the starter at Michigan State.

Scungilli Slushy

It’s weird

McSorley33

Ha!

Hockey Project

I don’t really get the number of goalies, but the skaters are all short-term deals. I guess Yzerman signed them as stop-gap measure veterans until the young guys are ready.

McSorley33

It’s already been a big chunk of time on the rebuild clock though….

The Seider pick ( 6th overall) was in 2019…..

Picked 6th overall in 2018.

But, I hear you ….nothing long term there.

Jaxon

He likes former Oilers? 4 on that list.

Jaxon

5 if you add Laggesson to the list.

OriginalPouzar

Yzerman was over-rated to start with and, over the last couple of years, has been quite poor.

Lets not forget Holland absolutely cleaned his clock on the Kostin/Yamamoto trade.