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OriginalPouzar

First exhibition game today, right after the Jays game and, yes, I am excited.

OriginalPouzar

5pm on FloHockey:

Griffith/Marjala/Hutson
Jarventie/Samanski/Rh. Pitlick
Re. Pitlick/Hamblin/Janicke
Clattenbrug/Copponi/Keppen

Milman/Brown
Krebs/Akey
Inamoto/Prokop

Jonsson
Day

godot10

A chain is only as strong as its weakest leak. Chaulk is on the critical path.

TheGreatBigMac

Bakersfield should be strong this year and the big club isn’t in urgent need of a call up. So we should get a good read on what Chaulk can do, wish him well.

MushedPeas

Godspeed, friend of Jay. Time to show your quality.

Pretendergast

They should be better than last year, which isn’t saying much.

Losing Savoie doesn’t help and everyone was hurt or called up last year. It was a skeleton crew.

Better on paper, don’t think they’ll be strong though.

OriginalPouzar

Hurt, called up, personal leave or simply not reporting……..

Reja

Look at Bowman impressive work in Chicago he creates players from within and promotes them. You’ll see players like Samanski-Hutson-Clattenburg-Jarventie-Akey get NHL action whereas with Holland they end up like Lavoie who changed his game for the organization and watched his ship sail right on by.

OriginalPouzar

Lavoie waived by Vegas and cleared this week.

Walter Gretzkys Neighbour

Can we now PLEASE put the “he was mismanaged” story to bed?

Reja

No doubt if Lavoie was developed by the Bowman Hawks he has a Bickell like career. How many big wingers came through and had meaningful minutes in the Hawks system? Lots. You watched Lavoie do you not think there was a couple of 15 goal seasons in him with that big body and shot.

OriginalPouzar

Oh, lots and lots of doubt – sometimes the players just isn’t that guy.

I watched alot of Lavoie – I did see him dominate the AHL for stretches – it took him a LONG time to be effective at all at the AHL level, a long time for any sort of consistency and he was never ever to move the needle with any NHL chance – in Edmonton or Vegas.

SKOilerFan

Not sure if those lines could be any more of a misfit. 97 and 29 need to be at C without Hyman.
Let’s get skill playing with Skill
No idea where this idea came from that frederic is a top 6 player. Never has been.
Nuge is not the 2nd best C on this team so why is he there?
Tomasek doesn’t have the boots to play 3C but put him with two vets and maybe it survives.
Philp is the ideal 4th line C for the next 3 years so let’s get that started now

Pod 29 Mgp
Nug 97 Sav
Hen 86 Fred
How 48 Kap

Tarkus

Summarizing!

Lafreniere scored his 2nd goal of the young season.

Park, Barnett and Berry were denied soup and shall have to subsist on rice cakes instead.

Ozoil

I think Tampa just became my 2nd favourite team.

90s fan

Announcer: “unbelievable”…. “Tampa not even trying to mask the dirtiness”.

Know thyself, announcer.

Fibonacci

Quite the slugfest in Florida as the Panthers smoke the Lightning 7-0

274 minutes in penalties.

Jeff Petry with 1G 2A.

Ekblad injured after playing only 41 seconds in the first and did not return.

Fibonacci

B/R Open Ice

The Panthers’ 8th goal was taken off the board because a player who participated in the goal had been ejected earlier in the game and was illegally on the ice

Never seen anything like this before

LMHF#1

Bush. League.

Glad Tampa gooned it up with them though.

I’d devote an entire regular season game to the same if I were Oilers’ coach.

Fibonacci

It all started with the attack on Ekblad.

The Lightning called up a bunch of goons including 6’3″ 209 33 year old Scott Sabourin who has a total of 47 games and 19 seconds to his credit.

I suspect there will be plenty of supplemental discipline handed out.

Fibonacci

@GinoHard_
Scott Sabourin RAN OVER Aaron Ekblad and then started throwing punches.

https://x.com/GinoHard_/status/1974615184271372762

(click for video)

daniel

Love it. Don’t worry. He will be back next week. His doctors will make certain of that.

Speaking of which, PEDs are known to decrease the tensile strength of tendons.

Of course that has no bearing whatsoever on the Barkov injury, which was a pure fluke.

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Ozoil

if you think that’s where “it started” you don’t have a clue.

SVR

Watching some NHL highlights tonight. I really like that Scott Sabourin fella. Good player.

90s fan

Hey, Florida brings that upon themselves. I hope every single game every team plays against them is played like that.

Fibonacci

You know Florida won 7-0, right?

90s fan

I do. Do you think they were happy with the night?

Prairie_Sentinel

It’s called preseason for a reason. TB wasn’t gonna let things go unanswered.

OriginalPouzar

Shootout:

SJB Shooter 1 – Save Day

Hutson – Shoots, stopped.

SJB Shooter 2 – shoots short side – scores

Pitlick – Slaloms back and forth across the o-zone 3 times, stickhandles 123 times and is stopped.

SJB Shooter 3 – same play as shooter 2, same result.

That was the most entertaining game I’ve watched this season, and I watched all Oilers games (kind of with the split squad games).

fishman

Appreciate all the updates/comments on the game!!

OriginalPouzar

That may have been the most entertaining 3 on 3 period I’ve seen in years.

Marala splits the D to go in all alone – stopped.
Marjala takes the puck at the offensive blue, drives down the left side and is stopped
Marjala delays on a 1 on 2 to make it a 2 on 2 and quick releases on – stopped.

Nathanial Day with a 5-alarm save on a cross-crease pass.

Shootout.

OriginalPouzar

After a very poor offensive zone offensive play late, Akey uses some body misdirection and takes off from center to drive the net 3 on 3 – almost a breakaway.

OriginalPouzar

Nathanial Day with an exceptional third period to get the Condors to OT.

Jarventie did join the fun with a great shift with a minute left. A nice pass back to Akey at the point with a ton of time and space (and Akey, well, looked like his first AHL game), then Jarventie with a great power forward puck protection in the corner, quick edges both ways to separate and find Samanski high slot for a decent shot.

OriginalPouzar

Day with a number of very solid stops in the 3rd – point blank shots, some including cross-crease movement.

OriginalPouzar

Pitlick and Copponi with some great PK works and turn it in to a 2 on 1 – the Copponi one-timer stopped.

Still 2-2 in the third.

OriginalPouzar

Condors can’t clear, Brown caught up at the blue line leaving Akey to battle two net-front – they score, Brown with a huge cheap shot to a net front player about 2 seconds after they score.

OriginalPouzar

SJ defender simply whiffs on a net front clear, it gets past him and Hutson pokes it in for his second.

Krebs and Marjala with the helpers – they combined to get the puck to the net front but that was a d-man blunder.

OriginalPouzar

Samanski with great speed and power, take the puck at his own blue line and bull rushes cross ice through the neutral zone and down the right wing – almost beats two defenders, draws them and drops to a teammate who gets a net front chance.

Now Samanski with a nice cross-ice pass to Marjala on a two on one – he led him a half a foot two much and the shot was stuffed.

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OriginalPouzar

Day coming in for Jonsson after 9 save on 10 shots half way through the game.

I think they are going opposite tomorrow in SJ (this one in Bako) – not sure why they don’t give each a full game – its not like they haven’t had rookie camp and main camp and aren’t up to speed……

OriginalPouzar

Josh Brown with a massive hit to a forward with his head down in the offensive zone (and has to drop em’ but not much of a fight) – a massive hit, think it was clean too.

OriginalPouzar

Samanski getting LOTS of PK time – used his speed there to only beat the opposition goalie to a loose puck on a clear – caused a scramble, chaos and a near SH chance.

Reja

Now that K.K has a secure job he needs to start the goaltender that’s playing better. Pickard should and deserves to start game 1 against the hated Flames.

OriginalPouzar

Hutson and pass the puck as well – great vision to go full cross-seam on 3 on 3 to set up Griffith for a good chance.

Condors continue to dominate and then take penalties.

OriginalPouzar

Josh Brown pulled out high on the PK, puck goes to the low man with all the time in the world to cut in front and rip one by Jonsson.

1-1.

Condors dominating at 5 on 5 – dominating zone possession.

OriginalPouzar

Clattenburg tries to stick-handle between two attackers….. in the defensive zone – turned over.

No damage but he’ll need to cut that completely out.

OriginalPouzar

Griffith, Marjala, Jarventie, Hutson and Akey on the PP (Lepannen and Dineen not playing).

Marjala with great pass to the slot from a nice rip by Griffith early – stopped.

OriginalPouzar

Marjala wins the offensive zone draw and makes a deft 2-foot pass to Hutson who rips home the 1-0 goal in the first.

OriginalPouzar

Majala tries a spin move on a one on one rush and Leppanen goes intentionally off his skate on a 2 on 2 rush – we’ve got some confident Euros in Bako – both moves almost worked.

OriginalPouzar

That wasn’t Lep, he’s not playing, not sure who that was.

OriginalPouzar

Samanski gets PK1 with Hamblin (and a great gap close, won battle and zone exit to start it).

fishman

Wow Jays bats explode and have a 10-1 lead bottom of the 8 th. For at least one game they have kept Yankees bats quiet. Go Jays!!

OriginalPouzar

Go Condors!

Back to Back with the Jays.

Melman

Was at the game last night and here’s my guess on the early season roster deployment:

They have 7 forwards who are new to the team – 4 of whom are NHL rookies (including Tomasek). They have 2 more in KK and Fredric who weren’t here last Oct. That’s a lot of new faces.

Playing McDrai together while Hyman is out gives the rest of the forwards more ice time without the pressure of playing with the big dogs to settle in and let the coaches see what they can do. When 97&29 centre separate lines the bottom 3 Fs have a lot of 6/7 minute nights.

Putting Fredric with 97 & 29 will show the coaches how well he can play with skill (I’m doubtful – seems to have slow hands), and where he ends up slotting in.

Hyman comes back in 10-15 games and they can start settling where everyone fits. Can Fredric play on one of the top 2 lines or is he going to be part of a beefy 3rd line?

They’re playing to win in June not Oct. and with a weak Pacific they should be able to hang near the top of the division for a dozen games.

Maybe I’m out to lunch, but I’d argue it’s a defensible strategy to start the season.

unca miltie

Pretty much what the coach said tonight at Bob’s event.

daniel

If you trade Stecher, what’s the return?

Some chatter that 97 signs on Monday based on a reservation of the Oilers HoF room. Seems like viable chatter. 3 years like Knobby? LT was discussing it on the radio.

P.S. I mentioned before, but LT the contact section no longer works. Might have been broken by the Bluehost fixes. They upgraded some things to make the site more secure.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

I know there’s a lot of hype around the notion, but Lukas Reichel seems like a decent target (demographic) at the very least. A young player worth liberating from a team mired in the basement who happen to be looking for some veteran presence.

OriginalPouzar

The Oilers would simply be turning around and waiving Reichel though.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Perhaps I should have phrased it more like godot10 likes to; modulo stuff.

Someone in Reichel’s demographic — a young player who may break out with a change of scenery and different deployment. Someone who fills a need in regards to player type, age, and contract status.

Would be nice to get another win like Petey managed while trading Gernat and a 4th for Maroon.

Bobbyoiler

Allman Brothers, such a great band!!!! Jessica is an awesome song!!!

fishman

Vladdy with a home run for Jays one run lead!!!

fishman

Now Kirk with a homer for 2-0 lead!!

Todd Macallan

That dp by Vladdy was one of the best in recent memory

Mayan Oil

Personally, I am not worried that the Oilers will predominantly run McD and Drai as a first line pair. Training camp is training camp, not regular season. Up and comers will almost always look better playing with one of them, but it doesn’t give you as much info as to whether they can hold their own away from McDrai. I think it is better to do what they did during camp, to see the up and comers AWAY from the Glimmer Twins to ensure they can perform at an acceptable level at the NHL level in general.Then armed with the better info, they will form line combos around those who have proven they are develped to the appropriate level to allow Mc D and Drai to each center their own lines more often. Sure, the nuclear option will appear when needed situationally from game to game, but ideally I think the braintrust understands if they get both of MCDrai on thier own lines and humming, other teams have to worry about shutting down TWO lines and that is a more winning stratregy in general. Keep calm, and trust the process!

fanaddict

If the Oilers want to keep Stecher but have to waive him, why not sign him now to a two year one way extension at $1.3, similar to Emberson, then waive him. Perhaps the contract liability may help reduce the chance he’s picked up?

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OriginalPouzar

but then the Oilers have the contract liability starting next season…….

fanaddict

I thought of that. $0 would remain on the cap this year if waived, $150,000 would remain on the cap next year if he is waived and $5,000 would remain if waived the following year. Given the current cushion of $226,000, and while all the small overages add up, $150,000 and $5,000 per year may not be significant to the Oilers to manage compared to another team taking a chance to keep him on their NHL roster.
This is all contingent on the Oilers really wanting to keep Stecher for depth this year. If not, then just waive him and see what happens. He’s comparable in skill, but older and smaller than Emberson and Regula.

OriginalPouzar

Nobody on the Oilers on waivers today.

If I’m not mistaken, initial roster submissions are Monday so final day for waivers for re-assignment prior to roster submission is tomorrow……..

Will be an interesting day.

Fibonacci

For those who have a keen interest in prospects, the debut of Gavin McKenna with Penn State will be streamed tonight on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/nhl

godot10

The debut was streamed last night on Youtube.

Fibonacci

Ah…thanks.

It seems another game will be streamed tonight.

meanashell11

Ready, fire, aim…..

Bobcaygeon

I give 5 games max before 29-97 are split.
that’s as weak of a 2nd line as you’re going to see in the NHL.

knighttown

People aren’t talking about how little goal scoring there is on the wings. PP1 guys will score but is there anyone else that is a sure thing for 15?

Lewis Grant

Umm….am I missing something? Hyman scored 54 two years ago. Drai averages 54 per 82 over the last 7 seasons. Mangiapane had 14 last year in a down year. I’d be surprised if Savoie didn’t score 15.

If Nuge is on the wing, he might even get to 50 points this year.

Or are you referring to Bako? (In which case, I imagine Jarventie should easily surpass that.)

YYCOil

The Oilers always over think their roster.

Roll the lines … stack the TV time out and key ozone face offs and speciality teams. For 2-4 minutes of key moments in the game, when 97, 29, 2 have full charge.

1C McDavid
2C RNH
3C Tomasek
4C Henrique

is honestly bottom half of the league –

1C McDavid
2C Driasaitl
3C RNH
4C Philp

is the best in the league.

53-93-88 is a really good third line but ….

OriginalPouzar

 I think the Oilers will run McDavid, Nugent-Hopkins, David Tomasek and Henrique, with Noah Philp or Curtis Lazar alongside on that fourth unit. Is there a way to improve that depth chart, stay under the cap, and keep the waiver eligibles on the roster?

I think there is one obvious way to improve on that center depth chart….. play Leon Draisaitl at center…….

This may “require” giving Savoie or Howard some reps with McDavid or Drai – god forbid they do that without them having made enough tough plays on the wall first.

Lewis Grant

Yakupov scored 9 points in 10 games on McDavid’s wing, until the linesman took him down.

MushedPeas

Yeah that was the icing on the DoD cake. One last little treat.

SoCaloil

i watched last nights game and my impression is that they are not reqfy to
start the season a group

savoie is and he makes the team
Tomasek is close but needs the game to slow down for him a bit
and I think Howard could use some AHL time

about the D
Stetcher is good. And he can move around
Idk how you trade him. I’d prefer him over the other two

Lewis Grant

If I had to put one D on waivers, I think it would be Emberson.

Stecher is a known quantity to several teams. He showed good in the SCF, when the whole league was watching.

Regula is a known quantity to Boston, who would probably take him back out of spite. And he’s young.

Emberson isn’t known to anybody but San Jose. And here is the Sharks’ RD depth chart: Dmitry Orlov, John Klingberg, Timothy Liljegren, Sam Dickinson, Vincent Desharnais. That’s surprisingly good. Do they really have room for Emberson?

BornInAGretzkyJersey

This line of thinking presumes that 31 other NHL teams don’t employ pro scouts to identify buy low opportunities. Or, that 31 other NHL teams have identified that Emberson isn’t worth a waiver wire bid.

Lewis Grant

Every team overrates its own players. I like Emberson, but he was a healthy scratch in the playoffs.

There are a lot of notable names on waivers.

Keep in mind, once you make a claim, you go to the bottom of the waiver priority list. Right now San Jose is at the top. If they claim Emberson, then they go to the bottom. So not only do they have to be willing to play Emberson, they also have to think that he’s better than any other player that will be waived this season.

OriginalPouzar

Every team overrates its own players. I like Emberson, but he was a healthy scratch in the playoffs.

After playing 76 games in his first full NHL season.

Of note, the year prior the likes of Connor Brown, Cory Perry and Mattias Janmark were healthy scratches in the playoffs. This past season, Kapanen has a healthy scratch in the playoffs.

Regula hasn’t played in 15 months and was an AHL player when he last played – he and Regula are essentially the same age.

There are a lot of notable names on waivers.

There might be 75 players on waivers tomorrow

Keep in mind, once you make a claim, you go to the bottom of the waiver priority list. Right now San Jose is at the top. If they claim Emberson, then they go to the bottom. So not only do they have to be willing to play Emberson, they also have to think that he’s better than any other player that will be waived this season.

This is not right. The waiver order does not change until November 1 – it goes by inverse order of last year’s standings and then, come November, goes by current standings.

A successful claim never changes waivers order in the NHL.

MushedPeas

I hate to risk Emberson but that’s probably who I risk. Unless I believe his play will ultimately eclipse Stecher’s. Bit of a futures game. Near and mid.

DevilsLettuce

I think it would be wise to get Regula as many regular season reps as possible, he’s much better suited to handle a physical playoff round then Stetcher.

€√¥£€^$

Of the 3 RHD, Stecher is the only one who we know what he is. He is a solid 7-8 dman. Emberson & Regula have a lot more ceiling.
We don’t know what they are yet. Emberson has only played 106 games and Regula 22.

Stecher is a small, 31 year old dman who is with his 6th NHL team in 6 seasons and he’s been traded 3 times in this time span. He can be replaced a lot easier than the others..

Good GM’s with limited organizational defensive depth don’t trade promising younger defensemen or let them go for free. Especially RHD.

Stecher’s been around the block. He is the least likely of the 3 to be claimed, but if claimed, the long-term damage would be minimal.

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Prairie_Sentinel

Agreed on Stetcher, Emberson is six years younger and, although I love Stetcher’s compete level, he’s the one that can be moved out.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Well put. This is how I see it too.

Presuming Regula is bona fide, to me the question is who can we get for Stetcher if there’s a real risk of waiver claim.

Lewis Grant

Stecher performed ably in 2nd pairing minutes with Nurse during the Stanley Cup final. Against the dirtiest, nastiest, most physical team in the NHL.

At this point in Oilers fandom, I evaluate players based on how they play playoff hockey. Playoff hockey is a different game.

OriginalPouzar

Yes, he performed ably but, if we are talking playoff hockey, he comes in last among the 3 d-men in the type of skill-set they would want in the playoffs. Of course, we don’t know if Regula or Emberson would get to the needed level but each are 25 years old.

leadfarmer

I do think this team is still hunting for a forward upgrade.

leadfarmer

Im excited for the announcement of Mcdavid Walman Ekholm extensions on Tuesday

godot10

The Oilers big boys, except for Draisaitl, have been late to the start line three seasons in a row.

Will the Oilers have to wait for November again for Bouchard and McDavid to make an appearance?

yycyegyvr

Hey it’s not like there’s some huge decision hanging over the team this year I’m sure it’ll be fine.

SVR

But I’ve been told it’s not a distraction and that if it is, they are in the wrong business

OriginalPouzar

Bouch ususally starts in November, last year he didn’t start until like March……

Bouchard was fine in exhibition – much better than McDavid and Ekholm.

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

It’s a good roster! I like the depth up front, but I honestly can’t get a handle on how I’d deploy the forwards. I’m not a fan of loading up 97 and 29, but I get the logic. I don’t mind Frederic getting the first crack there either. It’s going to look even better when Hyman gets back.

I agree totally with the D. I wonder if you could flip Emberson, Janmark and a pick for Reichel in Chicago.

Anybody in favour of putting together a new “Kid Line” with Howard-Tomasek-Savoie on the third line (at least at home)? All the necessary elements are there. Give them the keys and let them go!

DevilsLettuce

Why would the Oilers give up that much for a player that would be hard pressed to stay in the lineup?

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

Emberson and Janmark might realistically be on waivers tomorrow. I don’t think their entire salaries can be buried in the minors either. Chicago needs defence. The trade is basically Emberson for Reichel, and a pick as a sweetener to take Janmark’s contract.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

That’s assuming Janmark doesn’t have CHI on his 10-team no trade list.

OriginalPouzar

The Oilers won’t waive Emberson – he remains young with considerable time to continue to develop.

Janmark could have been waived if he wasn’t hurt, noone would claim him, he’s got negative value.

Riechel wouldn’t make this team and I would 100% not trade Emberson for him. When Walman was Emberson’s age, he was a bit player for STL.

Fibonacci

Michael Russo
@RussoHockey

Hearing the Wild have agreed to terms on a five-year, $34 million contract extension with Filip Gustavsson ($6.8M AAV)

Fibonacci

$6 million AAV now seems like the floor for an accomplished starter.

Few teams under that bar.

LMHF#1

Goaltenders are NFL running backs. Don’t commit!

Fibonacci

While there is some truth to that, the overwhelming majority of cup winners have elite, highly paid goaltenders.

Bobrovsky, Vasilevsky, Hill, Binnington, M.A. Fleury, Darcy Kuemper come to mind.

Colorado was a brief exception but they too have committed long term to MacKenzie Blackwood.

Pretendergast

Adin Hill who played half the games to the cup run, was making 2.1M when they won the cup. Was left off Canadas roster for being a bad teammate. Elite? Hmmm.

Binnington was making league minimum when they won.

Fleury didnt play any finals games in the 2 years they won and lost the net to Murray being payed little twice who sucked hind banana the moment he got paid. (ie. dont commit)

Bobs save percentage was lower than Stu’s in the first year. I don’t think he’s elite but he’s better than our guy.

Not to mention the survivorship bias (no teams that lost had elite goalies? Tell that to our friends in Winnipeg).

Half-baked and mostly banal, per usual.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

the overwhelming majority of cup winners have elite, highly paid goaltenders

Hill ($2.175MM) and Binnington ($650k) were not elite nor were they highly paid when they won the Cup. Kuemper (very good, but not elite) was making a very reasonable starter wage $4.5MM when he won. TBY won their first of back to back Cups with Vasilevskiy making $3.5MM before his jump to $9.5MM.

Lewis Grant

The difference is that none of those guys (except for Vasy) are truly elite (although Bob has had his moments).

Lewis Grant

That’s a pretty interesting comparison, actually. You pay plenty to an elite guy like Derrick Henry or Saquon Barkley, but you don’t pay anybody else much at all.

Lewis Grant

As much as we complain about our goaltenders….we are getting great contract value out of them.

LateNightOilFan

I don’t think he was ever available though, given how MAF was mentoring him the past 3 seasons for the starter’s role, which he pretty much assumed last season. Probably similar to what the Oilers envisioned with Campbell-Skinner.

OilerParty

I’m wondering what this means for Wallstedt moving forward?

Unproven at the NHL level, but has a pedigree and a track record up to this point. I still think the Oilers should have taken him.

Fibonacci

He’s under team control for at least 3 more seasons.

Considering he’s only 22, he and the team are in a pretty good spot.

OriginalPouzar

His recent track record was a terrible regression season in the AHL where he became the 1B to Samuel Hlavaj and undrafted now 24 year old (about 1.5 years older than Wallstedt) who played more games with better numbers.
He’s starting the season on the Wild roster but not really on merit.

Tarkus

Prospectice!

The NAmateur pool this season is deep on collegiates, and they dominate today’s sched.

Michigan entered the season at #12 in Div-1. Park (G) and Barnett (A) each found the scoresheet in a romp yesternight. Park was listed as 4LW while Barnett was 3LD.

The other ranked team featuring a NAmateur is #19 St. Thomas, whose blueline is bolstered by Bauer Berry, making his NCAA debut like the aforementioned Michiganders did. Will he show more offense in college than he did in the USHL? We wait.

Lafreniere rounds out the sched–he has 1+1 in his three games since returning to junior.

Michigan (Park, Barnett) @ 5 p.m.
St. Thomas (Berry) @ 5 p.m.
Kamloops (Lafreniere) @ 7 p.m.

All times are two times and are also Sandy Lake time.

OriginalPouzar

If coach insists on loading up to start the season and isn’t willing to give Savoie or Howard a look, I have some time for Tomasek getting a chance riding shot fun (Frederic shifting to center) or Mangiapane with his motor (looked good in a bit of time there last night).

I won’t “give up” on Fred there based on exhibition – veteran play in exhibition means nothing (and McDavid was just as ineffective) but the rope shouldn’t be long.

Ozoil

Mangiapane looked great on that one shift there, they almost scored. I was disappointed they didn’t go with that for a couple shifts. Shows how stubborn nhl coaches are.

In don’t buy that exhibition mean nothing to Fredric. This is a golden opportunity for him, he’s not holding out to show he can keep up with drai and mcd in the regular season. He’s trying his best now and showing he can’t.

OriginalPouzar

He’s not busting his ass 100% to get bangs in and playing that aggressive style though and that will also hinder his performance.

I’m not sold on him, or him up there, but can still only put so much stock in to anything over the last few weeks for vets. Likely not easy to play with a 3/4-assing it McDavid.

Lewis Grant

Once McDrai eventually get split up…

Mangiapane-McDavid-Hyman
Podz-Drai-Savoie
Howard-Nuge-Frederic
Henrique-Philp-Tomasek/Kapanen

Not so bad. You’ve got at least two real scorers on each of the top three lines, plus a grittier guy.

For now, Freddy plays in place of Hyman, and Tomasek/Kapanen move up.

I’d still like a little more grit in this group, after the loss of Kane/Perry/Brown, but I guess you pick that up at the trade deadline.

MushedPeas

One could presumably nab a substantial (if lesser) roster player for Ekholm.

Lewis Grant

Boy, I hate to think about this. He has been exactly what this team needed. That trade is one of the biggest turning points for this team in the last few years.

But if (and that’s an if) he can’t turn the corner from what we’ve seen since his injury….might be time to sell high, before any other team realizes it.

Reja

This is a big leap but the emergence of Regula climbing the ladder to hopefully top 4 by seasons end could not only open up Cap room but also garner assets in a trade of Kulak or Ekholm.

leadfarmer

it makes a lot of sense for a team on the rise but not something contending teams do.

MushedPeas

Not something this contending team has done. Doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be the right move (doesn’t mean it would be). All contingent I guess on Ek’s play this season and the nature of the return – where/how it strengthens the roster.

LMHF#1

That depends.

Does he bring someone who can score 30 from the wing?

OriginalPouzar

As we’ve discussed as a possibility for months, Ekholm may never fully recover near his top game from (a) his injury, (b) due to age regression or (c) a combo of all three.

At the same time, his performance in exhibition should be discounted like it should be for all other vets. He’s coming back from injury, yes, but he’s also doing what he needs to be to get his body and timing ready like all the other vets.

We will start to learn what Ekholm we may get Wednesday.

SkatinginSand

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