2024-25 PS Game 8: Oilers at Canucks

by Lowetide
  • 2019-20: 9-7, 56 percent
  • 2020-21: 4-11, 27 percent
  • 2021-22: 10-8, 56 percent
  • 2022-23: 13-13, 50 percent
  • 2023-24: 8-18, 31 percent
  • At home to: WPG, CHI, CAL, PHI (Expected 3-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: NAS, DAL (Expected 0-1-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: CAR, PIT (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: DET, CBJ, NAS (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 5-4-2, 12 points in 11 games
  • Actual October results:
  • Oilers in 2024-25:

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Strapping Jocks

So… that was the opening night roster, eh? Hmmmm

UnjustEnrichment

I know it’s just exhibition season, but boy do the Oilers look old and slow out there. They’ve lost some jam and some speed. I do not think this team is better than the team they had last year; it seems worse. I would rather have Desharnais, Broberg, Holloway, McLeod and Foegele than the old guys in whom the team has invested. The money for Perry, Chris Skinner and Brown would have been enough to keep some of the young guys. What a shame. Oh and we perhaps have to talk about Puljujarvi again. The Oilers have certainly lost a lot of good young talent in the past two years. I think we are in for a year of regression. I hope I am wrong.

SkatinginSand

Who is Chris Skinner?

UnjustEnrichment

Jeff. You knew who I meant.

OriginalPouzar

That exhibition season was a SLOG!

Can’t wait for Wed – should be awesome!

Benign Bone

Nice to see Nurse-Emberson look stable! Can’t say the same of the 3rd line or Knob loading up McDrai. Feels like that 2nd line hasn’t gotten nearly enough game time together.

Diablo

Glad it’s over and no one got injured.

fistycuff

Maybe it is just me, but I am not seeing the confident team we saw most of last year. It’s probably just the lack of reps as a team, but there should have at least been a late push, no? Zip, diddly, squat. Was hoping for a good game, but that was about as boring as it gets from this fans perspective. Lots of mistakes.

OriginalPouzar

Oilers won their last 3 exhibition games by a combined score of 14-4 and then lost the opening game 8-1.

I think team performance in the exhibition season means absolutely nothing as far as regular season performance.

GB&Q

Podz looks as advertised, and i think we saw some Arvidsson. Jeff S has yet to reveal himself, however.

flyfish1168

tocchett shut the front door. I’m tired of you whining to the refs already

Kert

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a player love icing the puck as much as Nurse does.Is he just trying to sewer his zone starts stats? He makes some weird choices out there.

fistycuff

It is his trademark.

Kert

Haha..The only worse “signature move” is JFJ losing control of a pass with zero pressure on him.

(Side note, I thought Nurse’s signature move was taking the puck carrier on a two on one by flopping at them, and leaving the pass open for an easy goal.)

London Jon

So many times, under no pressure at all, he ices the puck. I think the level he thinks he makes clever plays at, and his own perceived skill level, is very different to reality

OriginalPouzar

Savoie keeps the play alive on the PP, circles high near the line, passes off to Wright on the side boards, to the middle to an activating Hamblin who buries it for a 4-3 lead.

I think that’s Savoie’s third assist – I guess he wasn’t the one to jam the scrum goal in.

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Kert

Seems like Savoie does a lot right. He wasn’t as noticeable as my expectations of him were during preseason. Maybe he keeps forcing the the issue and we see him back with the big club shortly. I assume his homework assignment down there is to accomplish more 5v5.
Hopefully he can.

OriginalPouzar

Elite shot by Bouch for his goal but, yup, as we are getting used to, his puck play skills early on are, well, bobbly.

Tarkus

Bonus material!

Fischer had two assists for Notre Dame in exhibition action this evening.

OriginalPouzar

Savoie takes one hard to the net at the end of the PP – stands his ground, bangs away and it goes in.

OriginalPouzar

Cam Wright with some of the best forechedk board work I’ve seen in a long time – eventually finishes it off with a high skill back hand snipe.

OriginalPouzar

D’Amato with a great delay and pass over to a releasing Hamblin for the one-timer equalizer.

LMHF#1

Are the Oilers going to bother showing up against a team they owe a serious beating (both on the scoreboard and physically) to?

Really don’t like this. This is a chance to soften up these losers.

Derek

It’s preseason man. Edmonton owes a serious beating to Florida. They beat everyone else last year.

OriginalPouzar

Arvidsson and Skinner both playing LW on the track back and the opposite pointman wide open with time in the slot…..

UnjustEnrichment

From what I have seen so far, both of them seem clearly on the downhill side of things. We paid for their past performances when we should have been investing in the future upside of good younger players.

OriginalPouzar

I would put out the fact that what you have seen is exhibition season where established veterans generally are going what they need to do to get ready for the season and not playing their top game.

In 2022/23, Jeff Skinner had a single point in the exhibition season and followed that up with 37 goals and 82 points in the regular season.

fishman

Not much chance for Skinner on that one. Too much traffic in front of net.

OriginalPouzar

That’s all around exhibition terrible by Hyman – bad pass in the neutral zone for the turnover and then not it the shooting lane.

OriginalPouzar

Great play be Emberson in the neutral zone to step up and pick off a bad pass – led to a solid rush chance by Podz.

OriginalPouzar

That may have been the farthest out Nuge has ever shot from – off the bar!

OriginalPouzar

Fanning on cross-ice passes through the defensive slot are NOT going to help Philp’s chances….

OriginalPouzar

Hopefully Bouch is getting his traditional October/November puck issues out very early this season.

OriginalPouzar

Silovs starting – wrist shots from distance should win the day!

Tarkus

Summarizing!

Day made 32 stops in a 2-1 OT victory. He was named 1st star.

Who made Day a winner? Why, it was Clattenburg going end-to-end to pot the GWG. He was named 3rd star.

O’Reilly finished with the one goal and 6 SOG, turning in a 3rd star effort.

Nicholl assisted on the O’Reilly goal.

Wakely did not dress tonight.

Strapping Jocks

Wow, Clattenburg looked like he was playing against the Oilers D right there!

OriginalPouzar

Savoie very active on PP1 – kind roving between half wall and bumper spot – looking to move in to the middle and shoot.

The Great One

Well…Jesse had a night.

1G 2A +4 as Pittsburgh beats the Blue Jackets 7-3.

Diablo

Pre-season hero

OriginalPouzar

Well…Jesse had a night.in an exhibition game

I hope he has a nice season now that his hips are fixed again (for now).

Jesse, like Holloway, has performed in exhibition season’s past!

As an aside, lots of other players had great nights too, like Barzal with 1G/4A.

UnjustEnrichment

Some good young talent managed to escape from the Oilers. I don’t really blame the ones who got away, particularly if the team was low-balling them and Captain Everything shouts in the dressing room to motivate his teammates.

Sierra

Is there no Pens forum for you to discuss their players at?

UnjustEnrichment

There is nothing wrong with writing about some good former Oilers who were given away for peanuts.

meanashell11

I see DSF has another handle…….

Walter Gretzkys Neighbour

Twat

Kert

I’d be happy to see JP recover his career. He had so many tools and so much promise. His only sins were believing his own hype as an 18 year old and subsequently getting injured. It’d be great if he got back on track and even better if he did it in the east.

OriginalPouzar

Seravelli thinks that Philp has an inside track on making this team – although not for sure. He does think the Oilers are very much wanting to accrue cap space – its why they traded Ceci and didn’t match either offer sheet. He does see a potential for Ryan being waived.

Seravelli cannot see a world in which Josh Brown hits waivers – he would be surprised. Stauff agreements.

At the same time, he does think they sign Dermott. He thinks there is a better chance that Philp sticks to start the season than Dermott being signed but suggests both could happen.

Last edited 2 months ago by OriginalPouzar
BornInAGretzkyJersey

Just piggy-backing on the recent discussion the other day about O’Reilly…

It’s Seravalli. Two A’s, one E.

As for the content of the post, it seems like Frank’s comments are at odds with themselves. Can’t be accruing cap space if you keep everyone. Classic Frank.

Strapping Jocks

Frank has the ear of JJ and Bowman for sure. I would take what Seravalli says pretty seriously. So what it means is that management wants space but doesn’t know how to get it and signed too much old, deadweight in the summer.

Ryan

Question. How much worse is Josh Brown than Kurtis Macdermid (when he played for Colorado)?

The Great One

MacDermid often played as a 4th line forward in Colorado.

Ryan

The most common skater he played with was Erik Johnson, so that it would appear, he also played a fair amount of defense. Wowy.

Willis is not a fan.

Jonathan Willis
@JonathanWillis
·
Oct 3

192 defencemen (6 per team) have played at least 1,900 minutes at 5v5 since ’21-22. Here’s the entire list with a worse xGF% than Josh Brown:

1. Patrick Nemeth (Switzerland)

2. Marco Scandella (UFA)

Brown shouldn’t be in the Oilers’ top six.

jp

MacDermid certainly didn’t play 1900 minutes though.

OriginalPouzar

The org may not be happy with Petrov’s camps. Lineup for the Condors’ exhibition game:

Wright/Hamblin/Savoie
De Jong/Grubbe/Griffith
D’Amato/Swetkujiff/Stefan
Petrov/Kindopp/Weatherby

Carrick/Kannok-Liepert
Mayhew/Kemp
Brady/Corcoran

Delia

fishman

Dang. Looking like another lost Russian prospect. Hopefully he can pull up his socks and get back in the mix.

OriginalPouzar

Savoie blocks a point shot, chases the puck down and gets a good shot on a partial break!

Tarkus

O’Reilly puts London on the board, assisted by Nicholl. ES goal.

https://x.com/OHLHockey/status/1842353005489774871

Last edited 2 months ago by Tarkus
Todd Macallan

Them playing together in a top 6 role would be a fascinating wrinkle indeed.

Little Johnny Frostbite

Just popped on to say that the clips from the prime show are fricken’ devastating. Utterly heartbreaking. Things might not seem important in the over all scope of life, but being that close to the dream…hurts like it was yesterday.

The Great One

Allan Walsh:

Breaking: It’s happening! Expect a NCAA vote to grant Canadian Major Junior Players eligibility within the next 30 days. The walls are finally coming down now. Huge implications for CHL, NCAA and the NHL. Great news for the players.

https://x.com/walsha/status/1842334156417798198?s=61

The Great One

This could trigger a flood of Canadian players flocking to NCAA schools where they can access scholarships.

It also opens up the possibility that drafted CHL players could avoid signing with NHL teams that drafted them and become free agents.

OriginalPouzar

CHL players could always avoid signing with their drafted team and become free agents – rights are only held for two years for CHL drafted players. In some circumstances, the player would not become a FA and would go back in the draft, depending on age.

This will be a factor in the CBA negotiations. I suspect that players drafted out of the CHL, that end up going to the NCAA will have their rights retained by the drafting team.

The Great One

Drafted CHL players who don’t sign could avoid these conditions by playing in the NCAA and become free agents in the same fashion NCAA players do now.

I can’t imagine players and their agents would agree to the NHL trying to reinstate restrictive conditions.

OriginalPouzar

Most players drafted out of the CHL that don’t sign within the 2-year window become free agents in any event.

There are a few that would go back in the draft but most become free agents in any event.

As I posted, there will be fullsome CBA negotiations coming up and I would suggest that the NHL will be very live to this – there are many different leagues where players are drafted that have much longer signing windows that the CHL – I don’t imagine they just let these players become free agents as you suggest.

The Great One

Indentured servitude is so last century.

AsiaOil

I refuse to reply to the troll but this is good news for 95% of players who will never be pros. A full ride at a good school while still being able to play and develop your game is a great deal. Way better than working for free in the CHL scam.

AsiaOil

Forced to reply to myself for obvious reasons. It would be great if Canadian universities offered hockey scholarships in addition to the American schools. The best solution for the players is to stay at home until they are 18 – then go to university on scholarship or play pro and get paid. The CHL kiddy-mill and indentured servitude model needs to be abolished. If these businesses cannot operate without free labor they should not exist.

Tarkus

O’Reilly is playing but Wakely is not.

Regarding the latter, it’s not an injury but rather an “impasse” that seems to be keeping him from playing:

https://www.wiartonecho.com/sports/battalion-packing-their-bags-for-a-weekend-roadie

It’s almost as if North Bay wasn’t expecting him back and had no plan for his return. Weird.

Reja

I do think making it to a 1 game crapshoot has taking the pressure off this group. With a 3-C&4C I’m liking our chances more than last year.

The Great One
The Great One

Wish we knew where.

OriginalPouzar

Ryan is banged up a bit. Likely to practice Sunday. Don’t know if he would have played over Philp if he was fully healthy.

OriginalPouzar

Per coach.

Reja

Any breaking news on how many Goals Holloway scored wearing the yellow bibs in practice today?

defmn

@Sportsnet

Jack Campbell has entered the NHL/NHLPA Player Assistance Program and will be away from the Red Wings for an indefinite period of time.

GordieHoweHatTrick

Good that he is finally getting some help.

leadfarmer

Sad, but glad he’s getting help.
He always seemed to take things a lot harder than most goalies

Optimism is like heroin

I was just reading about this as well. Makes me wonder how it all would have gone if he asked for help earlier. As we have seen with Lehner, mental health is a ltir medical condition. Might have prevented the buy out.

kinger_OIL

— yeah really a missed opportunity: new regime could have done some due-diligence and sussed out the source of the demons.

— would have been a way better outcome for the player as a person and the organization from a cap perspective.

OriginalPouzar

Lineup:

Nuge/McDavid/Hyman
Skinner/Drai/Arvidsson
Janmark/Henrique/Brown
Podz/Philp/Perry

Ekholm/Bouch
Nurse/Emberson
Kulak/Stecher

Skinner
Rodrigue

———————-

YES!

Sierra

Now we’re cooking!

The Great One

But no quotation marks!

Sierra

No doubt you are enough of a moron to not see the difference.

Decidedly Skeptical Fan

Should be the opening night lineup. Would like to see Lavoie in for Perry at some point when he is healthy, but for now, this is great.

Moonlight

Hopefully we don’t lose Lavoie for nothing on waivers. That would be terrible asset management.

CopperandBlue

Not really.

Darryl8843

This feels like the opening night lineup

OriginalPouzar

Do we think that Philp at 4C tonight and Ryan watching is an indicator of the game 1 lineup or the “last audition” for Philp prior to the season?

Ryan has had an OK exhibition season (one really impressive game) – he shouldn’t play every night but I do think they want to accrue cap space early.

As you mention Jason, injuries will happen and they will need to call up a player soon enough to fill in for a short-term (i.e. not LTIR) injury and the accrual will crater.
They might want to “make hey” before those inevitable injuries happen and accrue what they can.

I don’t see them waiving Ryan unless they think this a good time to try and sneak him though. At $900K, he likely slides through.

I think Philp goes down to Bako to start – they can call him up at any time to give Ryan, and then Perry, some games and send him back down when its time to get those guys back in – perhaps.

AsiaOil

Respectfully disagree. Ryan is not an NHL center anymore. He wasn’t at the end of last season and he absolutely wasn’t in the playoffs. That said he can still contribute 40 games at RW and PK. Perry is the issue and I don’t think he adds much of anything. I’d rather develop Lavoie who may have some future. Perry has almost none. But if it makes Connor happy having him around it’s a trivial issue.

They should sign Dermott as #7. Brown has been outplayed and has that ridiculous contract to make him waiver-proof. Time to see if it works.

The fact we are arguing about #13 forward and #7 dman shows the quality of the roster. Add a guy like Kostin for effective muscle near the deadline and all you need to do is work the phones constantly for a quality RHD. Not like there are any other holes to deal with.

Last edited 2 months ago by AsiaOil
SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

This is the Way.

defmn

I’ve been thinking about this and earlier thought they would send Philp down for 20 games or so but the problem I am having is that this means we have Ryan & Perry on the ice together for however many minutes they give the fourth line.

To me that makes the 4th line very vulnerable to speed and physicality from the other team.

Way back at the beginning of the summer I assumed that Perry & Ryan would be 12/13 forwards each playing about half the games & I was OK with that other than pointing out that it makes 4RW a $2M roster spot which is not where a cap strapped team should be spending extra dollars. But the more I think about it a Podkolzin – Ryan – Perry line is really not an NHL calibre line.

This team has two decisions to make coming out of camp; 3RD and 4RW. It will say something about management what those decisions are.

GordieHoweHatTrick

Good that we are finally seeing a better line up (just switch Ryan for Perry and I ride this train for 10 games to see what is what)

defmn

The
@EdmontonOilers
in Vancouver:

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
J.Skinner-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Janmark-Henrique-C. Brown
Podkolzin-Philp-Perry

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Emberson
Kulak-Stecher

Skinner

Last edited 2 months ago by defmn
Chelios is a Dinosaur

Excellent roster.

defmn

Do we get a Dermott signing in the next 24 hours?

Chelios is a Dinosaur

I though he showed well from what I saw. I would certainly welcome it.

Reja

Yes Sir.

defmn

Not the first time a vet has come down with a cranky back or similar just before the end of TC when management wants a few more days to make final decisions.

@TonyBrarOTV

Derek Ryan is “day-to-day,” Head Coach Kris Knoblauch confirms.

OriginalPouzar

Ethan Bear has a cap hit over $2MM which is not a fit for the Oilers 3RD at this point in the season.

DexandRuby

This year all I want is for the players to stand up for the stars. It should be automatic, you touch McDavid and there’s a response. Instant smash.

Now if that means having a couple “coke machines” on the roster, then I’m OK with that.

Last year was the soft parade. Too many guys were scared to engage. I don’t think I’m alone on this. Brown has a place on this team, sheltered minutes on the 3rd pair will not make or break this season.

That’s it and nothing more. Why criticize the entire organization for signing a guy for 1 million that can be buried and forgotten at any time.

godot10

So you want the Oilers to throw away 0.33 goals every time someone touches McDavid? Maybe more if the retaliation gets penalized more than the initial infraction.

winchester

The counter question is, how many goals do you give away for letting them rough up McDavid?

Maybe none.

Maybe the entire season.

Plus, as we try to talk about balance, its not the fighters we need. It is the work hard till they die intensity players. Everyone can do it, some do it all the time. As McDavid said in frustration, fricking dig in.

winchester

I also don’t understand the more big issue. Where? One guy? Maybe a draft pick?

Dermott in for Broberg =smaller
Stetcher = no change

Philp in for Hamblin = bigger
Lavoie is out for Ryan =smaller
Kane is out, replaced with smaller
Ceci out for Emberson = even
Desharnai out for Brown = even

Oilers know they need more size. I don’t see them being foolish about it. Stubborn on one player maybe. I do agree there is a “feel” to this. If they find another D man, pretty sure he will be more big. As he should be. Oiler against Canucks the Oilers could not clear the front of their net. And forwards could not penetrate netfront in the other end.

If they go on a losing streak it will not be because they are carrying one big guy. If he can’t play, sub him out.

The Great One

@PuckPedia

As suggested and predicted in this piece, hearing that #ALLCAPcomment image will in fact be putting Ethan Bear on waivers today

Sierra

How is it a guy who was in media won’t use quotes to give identify when using other people’s words?

The Great One

When I provide a post with a clearly defined link to the content, it should be obvious who authored it.

Much worse is someone who repeatedly parrots content derived from those generating it without providing a link to the content provider since they may be depending on traffic to make a living.

Sierra

If, ands, and buts….just use f#ckimg quotes when you are quoting someone. Otherwise, don’t post it.

Last edited 2 months ago by Sierra
The Great One

This is not a newspaper.

I invite you to look up and see a post about the lineup for tonight.

Do you see quotation marks or a link to the source of information?

Does this not upset you?

Sierra

Whataboutism is your excuse…embarrassing that you think a newspaper is the only place where using quotation is the proper thing to do when copying someone’s word.

Last edited 2 months ago by Sierra
The Great One

You’ve embarrassed yourself enough.

Quit while you’re behind.

London Jon

Perhaps you should say exactly this to yourself, in the mirror, and reconsider the last 10 years or so of your childish behaviour here

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Ceci and Desharnais were “replacement level” last year as per many people. They have been replaced. Meanwhile at forward Holloway became Pod, while Foegele and McLoed became much better in theory as Arvidsson and Skinner.

Thats on paper a better club than the opening lineup in the SCF.

I can’t get behind the idea that we’re sewering a season because the rotating cast of seventh to ninth defencemen are wrong handed or the fourth line is shorter. We so far have no evidence the defence has actually been weakened and where there IS a hole (the same one that existed last year) they have actually positioned themselves to FILL said hole at the deadline.

Its fine. We are at the stage of the season where you put chips down on what’s wrong so yo can cash it at 2-9-1.

But let’s not forget these remain the best of times. What happened to holding on to this feeling, etc?

We all have a responsibility to not be pollyannaish but does anxiety over the fringes of the lineup undermine the core essence of this club, which is unchanged and if anything hungrier and more prepared than ever? Not for me by a mile. Much of this is respecting the leadership of this core and knowing they are capable of getting the best out of each of their line-mates.

The preseason is meaningless. Let’s drop the puck for real and give some credit to coaches Coffey and Garlic who took a slightly worse club to within a goal of the prize.

JimmyV1965

Great comment

meanashell11

Word, baby, ….word!

Lewis Grant

Agree in spirit. Many good reminders here. These are indeed the best of times.

But at beginning SCF, I do think Broberg was better than whomever our 2RD will be. Hopefully we can upgrade that the trade deadline.

Also, I hope the SCF G7 loss will make us hungry…not tired from a short off-season.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Not unless you pay him 4+ million or get in your Delorian and sign him to 1 million. Its a game of whack a mole thereafter.

Mayan Oil

I know a guy with a used Delorian for sale. Heavily upgraded power plant, low mileage. Only one owner, sparingly driven from time to time….

The Great One

Farewell 630 Ched.

Next Oilers game is the Final on 630 Ched. A Farewell to a Decades Staple.
It will be moving over to 880 starting with the 1st Game Opener!

https://x.com/OADsBraydonW/status/1841676910499151967

LMHF#1

It will be interesting to see how they handle the branding challenge here. Kind of surprised they haven’t dropped the “630” in their promos and reads already.

MushedPeas

Holy Crap.

New World.

CruJones

What’s the deal with the signal strength on 880? Can easily pick up 630 in Calgary now. Will be a shame if they move to a weaker signal.

The Great One

Generally speaking the lower you are placed on the AM dial, the further your signal reaches.

When CKUA was broadcasting on 580, it was possible to listen south of Calgary and as far as Canmore.

In announcing the switch, Corus claimed it will provide better coverage in the city but I am not sure 630 ever had an issues with that.

https://www.corusent.com/news/edmontons-legendary-radio-station-has-a-new-home-on-the-am-dial/#

Given Corus’ precarious financial situation, I expect this has more to do with money than improved service.

Reja

The lower on the dial is interesting why is this? As i remember 1260 would barley make it to Bowden for me.

The Great One

Shorter wave lengths travel farther and are less prone to interference.

Side

Generally speaking the lower you are placed on the AM dial, the further your signal reaches.”

Source?

Tarkus

It’s true.

Fun fact: There’s a radio station that broadcasts out of Swift Current on 570 AM. However, so as not to interfere with 580’s range, the 570 signal is directional rather than broadcast in 360-degree range.

As such, the 570 signal is “cut” from going westward. This is why 570 is more clearly heard four hours north of Swift than a half-hour west.

Going to 880 will reduce its range, but not drastically so. (Point of reference: as a yute in southwest Sask, I was able to listen to 1060 in Calgary with ease.)

Side

Interesting – thanks, Tarkus!

The Great One

Flat land helps.

€√¥£€^$

Unfortunately, the 880 signal is extremely poor in Calgary. When this was announced I tested it several times at different times of the day in S Calgary. Perhaps folks on the hills in the NWvwill fare better.

This is very disappointing, but after Oilers Now moved to their late afternoon slot, I probably only listen 20 minutes every 2 days, when I used to listen about 90 minutes per day 4-5 days per week.

Sad times for me. 630 CHED introduced me to the idea of rock music in the late 70’s (my parents listened to C&W and pop or soft rock). CHED was playing pop music, but it introduced me to mind-opening music icons like Queen, Kiss, Bowie, and later Prince). For me that was my gateway to guitar-heavy music.

I remember hearing about the Gretzky trade while riding on a city bus in North Edmonton.

I remember loving Eddie Keane’s editorial commentaries on the school bus in my teens. He also opened up my world to things I’d never thought of. I remember listening to him speak about my cousin, who died at 15 in Spruce Grove, when I was 16 and living in a nearby town.

Man, the gamut of emotions Bob Layton and all the other names I can’t remember…….630 CHED has been such an important fixture in my life.

This development is very sad for me, but I am sure I am not alone.

The Great One

Put simply, radio signals are sent using parts of the electromagnetic spectrum, called the Radio Frequency (RF) spectrum. Different parts of the RF spectrum have different qualities.
Longer wavelength, lower frequencies travel farther and are better at going over, around, and through more obstacles without losing their integrity. That’s why AM and Ham radio stations (operating at the lower end of the spectrum) are capable of transmitting signals over great distances.

https://cdt.org/insights/techsplanations-part-6-mobile-connectivity-an-incomplete-explanation-of-the-radio-spectrum/#:~:text=Longer%20wavelength%2C%20lower%20frequencies%20travel,obstacles%20without%20losing%20their%20integrity.

Side

Interesting. I’ve never put too much thought into AM vs FM and the assignment of stations to frequencies. Seemed arbitrary when driving and losing signal to some stations but not others but this makes sense.

The Great One

I’ve mentioned before that when I worked at CKUA we were frequently approached by other stations to buy the 580 AM frequency.

That signal could reach Lethbridge under the right conditions.

cowboy bill

630 CHED was never the same without Wes Montgomery.

OriginalPouzar

It should be far better, but the Oilers are going to be defensively chaotic coming out of the gate. They just are.

Maybe, but I don’t think this is a certainty.

For me, although its only been exhibtion games, Emberson has shown the opposite of chaos – he is very good defensively and has given up almost nothing against at 5 on 5.

We know the top pairing is fire (although Bouchard has a tendancy to start slow with handling the puck), I think the 2nd paring (which will always have some chaos because Nurse bring some chaos) has a real chance to succeed and Kulak is a solid 3LD anchor.

OriginalPouzar

That said, I’m thrilled the team is taking its time with Nurse’s deployment. Bring him along at pace and return him to the 2022-23 levels and maybe more. It’s the right thing to do. I’m even confident that Ty Emberson will have a positive impact on the team, although we simply don’t know if it will be next to Nurse on the second pairing.

I believe that Nurse having a “bounce-back season” is one of the keys to this team’s success. I know he’s had a round season and a half over the last few seasons culminating in an injury-related debacle in this year’s playoffs.

Frankly, I don’t think he had been near 100% since he played through the hip issue in the 2022 playoffs but I think he may just be there with the extra rest and precautionary deployment.

I have little doubt that Nurse has the ability to anchor a very strong second pairing. I mean, Nurse anchored a 1st pairing, playing some of the toughest comp in the NHL, with a revolving door of “non 1st pairing partners” for years and kept his head above water. Yes, there was McDavid help but those were very tough minutes and with the likes of Bear, Ceci, Barrie, etc.

Nurse has flaws and will make mistakes every game but, when he’s playing well, the quantity of solid plays simply vastly outweigh the mistakes – he stops so many plays in the defensive zone with a good stick or getting in front of a puck of winning a battle, etc.

As far as Emberson goes, one can only glean so much from exhibition but he has been so very solid – he gives up almost nothing defensively (to my eye) – great stick, good positioning, smart plays, etc.

His numbers in the exhibition are 60% plus across the board including like 64% expected goals.

To this point, he has done everything to provide optimism that he can be a solid 2RD – to this point.

Reja

I believe the organization and Woody tried to turn Nurse into a stay at home rock. This is not what he does best Nurse can drive the play with his skating ability and needs to be given the green light offensively. I do believe this is right up Coffey wheelhouse and I expect a revitalized Nurse this coming season.

OriginalPouzar

Maybe but Nurse did play the worst hockey of his established career under the current coaching regime.

Reja

I think it came down to a nagging injury and lack of confidence during the regular season. I believe they targeted Emberson for Nurse as plan A for the first 1/4 of the season. Nurse returning to form with a thrifty partner is the biggest want for me next to Skinner playing consistent.

Georgexs

Every season, pre-season does and doesn’t matter.

Josh Brown’s pre-season GA60 is 3.96 in 60 minutes, Bouchard’s is 4.39 in 54 minutes. Matters or no?

Desharnais over in Vancouver is 3.73 in 32 minutes. He was 0.7 GA60 in 85 minutes of pre-season time with us last year. Matters?

I tend to the pre-season doesn’t matter camp. Oilers did well last year in pre-season, came out of the gate horribly, fired their coach, made the finals. NYR and DAL didn’t have a great pre-season, finished high in the standings, made the semis.

Hockey’s mostly get individual talent, try something, then try something else.

cowboy bill

It’s not how you start, it’s how you finish.

OriginalPouzar

I don’t recall anyone citing Josh Brown’s GA/60 in exhibition season as a reason for worry that he’s not good enough for this contending team’s healthy defence group.

I believe the eye test, which has matched up with the verbal and historical abilities (and non-abilities) of this player, have led to most conclusion.

The Great One

An amusing tale of Ray Ferraro.

Seattle wanted to host the first game of the regular season so was granted an afternoon game and Ray was slated to provide colour for the game.

That game starts at 1:30 PDT.

Ray is also doing the inaugural Utah home game the same day which starts at 7PM PDT.

Then he is slated to do colour for the Canucks home opener the following day at 7PM PDT.

So he is working 3 games in a little over 24 hours.

Ranford.85

3 games x 2.5 hours/game = 7.5 hours of work in 24 hours.
Crazy….

Diablo

Tough life – he works less than I do.

The Great One

There is just a bit of travel between games.

Reja

He’s making hay while the sun is shining.

Walter Gretzkys Neighbour

Boo – F%#@ing – hoo. And we may care about this because?? Twat

OriginalPouzar

First game of the regular season was today.

Seattle was fooled!

Red wolf

Is it really so bad?

Ek Bouch
Nurse Stetcher
Kulak Ember
Dermott

Georgexs

“In breaking things out this way, we can identify two seasons that are outliers, and that implies injury or some other element in a player’s game. Right? If he gathered 56 percent solo in two of the first three years and 27 percent in the other, it’s the Sesame Street ‘one of these things is not like the other’ right?”

Here’s a link to a binomial calculator:

https://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial

In those first three years, if Nurse were truly a 56% goal share player away from McDavid, the probability of him being on ice for 4 GF or fewer out of 15 total goals scored in one of those years is 2%. The evidence would then suggest he’s not a 56% goal share player away from McDavid. And, in all the years listed, Nurse in fact went 44-57 (44% goal share).

But… Important to remember that, of the three positions (F, D, G), defensemen have the least impact on goal share. When McDavid isn’t on the ice, the Oilers have typically had poorer forward options than other NHL teams over those years. That’s probably the bigger driver for Nurse’s results, quality of teammates… rather than the effect of injuries, which can only be speculated, given the player mostly continued to play.

The criticism of Nurse comes from the salary, which is at a level where fans can fairly expect him to have a positive influence on all of his teammates’ results. Management did not zero in on that, however, before offering Nurse his contract. To be fair, there were probably other factors involved that made the signing a priority.

Nurse, to me, is fine, and better than fine when he’s aggressive and using his physical advantages.