Penguins at Oilers, G8 2024-25

by Lowetide
  • At homeย to: WPG, CHI, CAL, PHI (Expected 3-1-0) (Actual 1-3-0)
  • On the road to: NAS, DAL (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: CAR, PIT (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-1)
  • On the road to: DET, CBJ, NAS (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-4-0, 14 points in 11 games
  • Actual October results: 2-4-1, five points in seven games
  • Oilers in 2024-25:ย  2-4-1, five points in seven games

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OriginalPouzar

I am all-in on a strong debate about this Oilers team for 2024-25. I think itโ€™s fair to be critical of management over the offer sheets. I think the coaching staff needs to settle in with Emberson, Vasily Podkolzin and let the second line cook with Leon Draisaitl, Jeff Skinner and Viktor Arvidsson. Donโ€™t get in the way of optimal deployment. Oilers fans have seen coaches blow past solutions because they didnโ€™t give it time. Edmonton doesnโ€™t have a Miro Satan situation brewing, but there are solutions emerging and Iโ€™m not sure the coach has noticed.

I think most of the management criticism on the offer sheets should be directed at Holland, then Jackson and even at Woocroft/Manson vis-a-vis Broberg.

I don’t blame Bowman for trying to grind these guys down contracts in the $1MM range (or $1.2MM for a couple of years of term) – that’s how it pretty much always works for players coming off their ELCs that are not legit established NHL players.

Criticism stems back over the last couple of years with respect to Broberg’s deployment/development and, at least with Holloway, not getting a re-sign done earlier.

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Agree on Emberson – he should be playing nightly – lock him to Kulak and let the man play and develop. 3RD with PK2 time. 16 minutes per night.

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I’d be fine with the line deployment suggested, although I’d prefer Skinner with McDavid and Nuge with Drai but, the main point is, let the players play with consistent linemates. I know its hard when the game isn’t going well, or they lose, but let them play through some tough stretches before blending. It is looking like panic coaching a bit recently

godot10

He who cannot be named is interviewed at the end of today’s 32 Thoughts podcast. Nothing really of note so it is ignorable for those who are in Sergeant Schultz mode.

GordieHoweHatTrick

I wish the oilers would hire you.
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No

Jeff Jackson is the new Steve Tambellini.

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Tarkus

Prospectastic!

Itโ€™s a Full House Friday (sans Bob Saget) as every NAmateur could conceivably toil this eve.

Copponi and Berry both found their first crooked numbers yesterweekend but yearn for more.

Mazura co-leads his St. Lawrence St. Lawrencians in points as a senior. Being 6’4″ and 200 lbs., if he finishes the season at >1.0 ppg, does he get a contract? We wait.

Lachance also leads his squadron in scoring. If he continues to Terrierize his opponents thusly, will the Oilers entice him to leave school early?

Flint (Day, Clattenburg) @ 5 p.m.
London (O’Reilly, Nicholl) @ 5 p.m.
Barrie (Wakely, Akey) @ 5 p.m.
Muskegon (Berry) @ 5 p.m.
Vermont (Mรผnzenberger, Mรครคttรค) @ 5 p.m.
St. Lawrence (Mazura) @ 5 p.m.
Notre Dame (Fischer) @ 5 p.m.
Boston University (Lachance, Copponi) @ 6 p.m.

Also, the London match will be shown on TSN+. Check your local listings.

All times are two times and are also Hay Lakes time.

Scungilli Slushy

Matt Larkin has an article up about the Oilers start. I found it interesting. And disturbing:

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/dont-panic-over-oilers-slow-start-with-one-crucial-exception

godot10

10 day old article. Literally old news.

DexandRuby

You’re the last person that should critize any post here. Btw on a net basis, thanks for the laugh yesterday.

godot10

I didn’t criticize the post or the article. My post merely added context.

JJS

It is incredible how valuable mobile, shut down defenseman are. Over the years I have tended to lean towards more skill than strength, but am realizing we need a good mix of both.

I have noticed all three of our new righties getting man-handled at various points during the games – Dermott, Emb and Stech are often squeezed on the wrong side of the puck.

Would love to see Wanner next to Nurse for a few games. Leave Emb with Kulak for the season (should have been Bro and Emb!).

danny

As unpopular as this may be, I think a significant upgrade candidate is trading Nuge for a bonafide weapon for 97. The first pick plus Nuge for a guy like Debrincat with 3M retention kinda deal. I know Debrincat won’t be available because Det will be plying forba playoff berth, but he’s a good example of what could make 97s job easier without moving Leon up and caving our depth.

Scungilli Slushy

No not popular. I also think they need to keep looking to improve, everywhere. Maybe it’s from cutting my teeth on the 80’s teams, but I like players that are always doing something, pulling their weight most games

I think an issue with this group is sometimes they don’t put enough pressure on the other team, even though they have the puck more. Not all possession is dangerous, putting stress on the other guys, which wears them down

I also think that they at times don’t take care of the puck enough and turn it over where they shouldn’t and it kills momentum and brings the pressure back onto them. I have heard players say many times that momentum builds on shifts. You see the guys before you have a solid one, any line, so your line wants to go out and do the same. It matters, they could be better with it

GrafSupra

OR they could’ve easily drafted him in 2016 instead of taking local kid, Tyler Benson.

31saves

Nuge has a full NMC for this, and all remaining years of his contract

No

It’s never going to happen. Nuge, Nurse will be here long after McDavid and Draisaitl.

DevilsLettuce

Trade the teams Swiss army knife for a shooter for a line that has a 60 goal scorer and a 50 goal scorer.. Why not just put Skinner in that spot? Lol

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Agreed LT, Jackson is an evil genius.

TruthHurts98

He’s far from genius. Letting Broberg and Holloway walk away when they could have been signed for much less shows that he wasn’t able to identify their talent properly. The Oilers are old and their window is passing by. Imagine having Broberg instead of Nurse? I know he’s handcuffed, but it’s a nice thought. Nurse’s contract is this team’s kryptonite. At least they made the SCF, but none of us know if the glimmer twins will ever hoist Lord Stanley in Edmonton.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

It was a joke based on what LT said. ๐Ÿ˜‰

31saves

Jeff Jackson had no role in the Nurse contract, which is ironclad.. It’s not a choice between Broberg or Nurse, and so this is a disingenuous argument.

Sierra

The Oilers won many and often without Holloway and Broberg. There is little reason to think this wonโ€™t repeat, other than a very small sample size early in the season.

godot10

Not in the playoffs.

And everyone on an old team is a year older. The replacement players are older and slower and less physical.

DevilsLettuce

The Oilers were in the conference finals when Broberg was shuffled in?

Holloway had some nice moments, also a bunch that kept causing the coach to shuffle him down the line up.

ScruffinGru

Its mind boggling that they would try Nurse on the right side before trying Nurse with Bouchard

Scungilli Slushy

They don’t want to break up that first pair. I would, I think most teams look for balance first. Ekholm would be a better partner for the other RD options, could mentor them like he did Bouch

But it’s apparently Oiler DNA to go this route, it’s happened so many times post Sather

godot10

They don’t want to break Ekholm. The old man’s minutes are much easier physically playing with Bouchard than they would be playing with Stecher, Emberson, or Dermott.

The sum of Ekholm and Bouchard is much much greater than the parts.

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