The last time the Edmonton Oilers won the Stanley Cup (1990) there were five rookies who played for them. Only two reached the 40-game mark, just one (Geoff Smith) would play the entire season for the team. This year’s team does have a new NHL arrival (Noah Philp) and we’ll see about recalls as the season moves along. I got a good look at the Bakersfield Condors last night and have some observations.
The Athletic article today is about the state of Edmonton’s prospect pool. It has been an active and productive 12 months since last winter’s top 20. There are some encouraging trends. The article is here.
WHAT TO EXPECT IN NOVEMBER
- On the road to: CAL (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
- At home to: NJD, VEG (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
- On the road to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
- At home to: NYI, NAS (Expected 2-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
- On the road to: TOR, MTL, OTT (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
- At home to: MIN, NYR (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
- On the road to: UTA, COL (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
- Overall expected result: 8-5-0, 16 points in 13 games
- November results: 1-1-0, 2 points in 2 games
- Oilers in 2024-25: 6-6-1, 13 points in 13 games
I have the Oilers starting a four-game winning streak tonight, aggressive even if Connor McDavid was in the lineup. Still, there are some good arrows for this team, and they are 6-3-1 in the last 10 games. Much has been made about the lack of offense, and I keep thinking the goals will come in bunches soon as regression occurs. However, the power play is an absolute travesty and that doesn’t appear to be getting fixed. Edmonton needs more power plays and more power-play goals starting any time now.
THE CONDORS
The first thing I always look for is prospects getting plenty of playing time. Max Wanner has received large doses since he arrived a year ago, and that continues through to today. I’m not sure we can call any of the rest of these names pure prospects, but Phil Kemp is getting his usual opportunities that is a fact.
Connor Carrick scores well here, he has played with several partners and had success. Cam Dineen and Phil Kemp have struggled at even-strength goal share, but both men have been productive in the past. I’ve been surprised by the expanded role Noel Hoefenmayer has this season, I see him often. The eye can play tricks, maybe he’s just impacting the play more this year. It’s just my opinon, but Josh Brown has not shown an ability to be Bakersfield’s best defenseman for any extended period this season. Early days.
The trade of Ben Gleason for Ronnie Attard is a good one because it gives the team more room to wheel under the veterans rule the AHL enforces. It does give the group a ‘right-orium’ feel, with all of Carrick, Brown, Wanner, Kemp and now Attard righties. The left side is currently Dineen and Hoefenmayer, Schlemiel! Schlimazel! Hasenpfeffer Incorporated. I think we could see Travis Dermott sent down, and Josh Brown sent north (or similar) in the coming days. Righty-Righty pairings are rare for extended periods.
This is a fascinating and encouraging look at Colin Chaulk’s forward group in Bakersfield. Matt Savoie is scoring well (3-3-6) in early days and is also positive by even-strength goal share. He’s being lifted by linemates like Seth Griffith and Roby Jarventie, but the rookie is also lifting the veterans. Music!!! I can’t tell you how happy I am that Savoie is adjusting so quickly.
At the other end, James Stefan is struggling as an AHL rookie. I do think that the role he is playing is less than ideal and of course he’s playing down the depth chart with lesser offensvie talents. Important not to reach any grand conclusions about Stefan or Savoie, but we can observe two very different beginnings to pro careers in this case.
I’ve been impressed by Daniel D’Amato and the numbers (both even strength scoring and the boxcars) indicate he can play with authority at this level. Something of an unknown entering the season, he has emerged quickly.
Jayden Grubbe is rumbling in a good way, kind of like Chris VandeVelde two decades ago. We can all agree he doesn’t bring enough offense, but Grubbe brings other things that matter, just like VandeVelde. I think Grubbe is going to play NHL games in the next two seasons.
Seth Griffith has struggled for a couple of seasons at even strength, but is absolutely pushing the river this season. A very good player despite the advanced age.
A busy afternoon on the Lowdown, we get started at noon on Sports 1440. Bruce McCurdy from the Cult of Hockey at the Edmonton Journal joins us, we’ll also have Cam Lewis from Jays Nation to give us a preview of the Toronto Blue Jays in free agency and what may come at the winter meetings. I’m at Lowetide on twitter, in the comments section here and on the Sports 1440 text line at 1.833.401.1440 directly. We can be heard at sports1440.ca; iHeartRadio; Radioplayer Canada, we tweet out the show after it’s done and you can catch us on Apple and Spotify.
McDavid’s back!
https://youtu.be/qFdzJ0j8lYo?si=hzMDzo-nPLrJljvz
Wow, was not expecting McDavid back tonight – what a great surprise.
Further, the forward lineup is all but perfect for me:
Skinner/McDavid/Hyman
Podz/Drai/Arvidsson
Henrique/Nuge/Brown
Janmark/Ryan/Perry
I’ve been wanting Skinner with McDavid since July. Skinner is a top 6 guy that compliments high end skill and, for me, his skill set could mesh better with McDavid than Drai.
Recently I’ve suggested Nuge down to play with Henrique – given the way each are playing, this makes sense and, further, Nuge has more of a 3rd line skill-set than Skinner, I think – Skinner should be in the top 6.
Janmark pushed to the 4th line is the clear best place and right move.
Philp was just OK the last couple of games – one night off to watch is fine – he may get reassigned.
I need a lift today. I feel like the Playoff Oilers are coming out tonight. It’s going to be a great game.
I like that they are willing to use Nuge as 3C. It may not last, but given how players are playing it makes the most sense right now. They give guys some time and chances to do things which is good, but aren’t stuck in a predetermined use of players as it has seemed in the past
I said McDavid would be back in 72 hours as a lark, jesus.
Jesus!
Chelios you need to use your powers for good and not evil!
Honestly giving it everything I have.
McDavidspheric rivers of chest hair and puck yeas raising all boats this evening.
On the third day, McJesus rose.
Nuge centering Henrique & Brown, McDavid centering Skinner & Hyman. Philp out, Ryan is 4c.
I like the lines. Philp looked a bit overwhelmed in game 2. Watching a game should help.
Finally Skinner will get a bounce. Hopefully Nuge and Henrique can get out of this funk and get it going both are snakebit but you can say that about the entire forward group.
Nuge’s game logs from this point last season compared to this season are nearly identical.
McDavid back in tonight. What a beast
Be nice to start getting some really solid goaltending all around . Consistency is needed.
Bouchard, Nuge and that 3rd line are all needed to start producing more offense.
The D is what it is. Lacking a bit of toughness in front and in most of the losses just poor overall coverage in the D zone .
No clue why the pp and pk are hurting this bad. The pp wasn’t doing good with McD but you can see it is just way worse without him. The offensive zone control is not there at all without him nor is the fast and quick passing.
The team is 2-1 without the captain and that is a very good record. Hopefully they come out on fire tonight and like LT says they start a winning streak.
97 is back!
I think Carrick has been the team’s best d-man all year, by eye – he’s a considerable 2-way player at the AHL level.
On Noel H., I found him “in the picture” quite bit last year – he’s generally noticeable – lots of chaos both ways.
I keep saying Brown has been “meh” relative to expectations – him not being an elite and dominating shut down guy at the AHL level is meaningful, right? I’m surprised his goal share is where it is.
To be fair, Brown has been playing the left side for the last 3-4 games.
That’s interesting that Brown has been playing on the left side.
Interesting to me anyway.
The Brown signing was bizarre not money wise but the length for a journeyman NHL-AHLer. With the loss of Desi they must of thought Brown could play 30-4O games a year. If Brown never sees another game with the Oilers you could probably make a case excluding the dollar amount as top 3 worst signing in Oilers history.
Except the signing has essentially zero effect on the NHL team unless at some point they don’t have room on the 50-contract list to add a player.
Zero impact on the NHL cap.
I presume zero impact on the owners willingness to spend.
For tonight’s game, my biggest concern is not the PP but the PK – Knights come in over 32% on the PP…………………..
Noone can argue with that.
Go away from the 2D on PP1 – its awful. Put Skinner out there are, for crying out loud, get back to using motion – Leon is too stagnant on the PP (including when McDavid is in the lineup), in my opinion.
The coaching staff has made some curious decisions this year. Based on TOI and PP deployment, they do not appear super confident in Skinner yet.
Actually, I lied. Skinner’s 5v5 time is now 5th among forwards.
But his deployment suggests your initial observation is correct.
If they got more power plays, they might have a greater opportunity to score more PP goals.